MD: Ordering a Sony MZ-R900 from the UK

2001-02-13 Thread Javier Marcet


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Hello fellow MiniDisc users,

  for  much  I  tried,  not  even  one  shop wanted to ship outside of
mainland  UK  (I  am  in  Spain). Hence, I am looking for any soul who
might  help  me get one of these portables. He/she must of course live
in  the  UK. The best prices I have found are on www.superfi.co.uk and
www.unbeatable.co.uk,  indeed both of them offer to beat any price (by
10 pounds in the former, and a 10% in the latter).

  If  there is anyone willing to help me out, please drop me an e-mail
at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Another  option  would  be  finding  either a UK shop doing overseas
sales, or any retailer in Europe carrying the unit (I have found none,
including Spain).

  Thanks in advance.


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MD: recovering deleted TOC

2001-02-13 Thread Pamela Gude


i've accidentally blanked an important recording. since all the data is
still present, SOMEONE must know how to recover it without the TOC. i'm
looking for someone who can do this for me; my regular recording engineer
does not work in MD format. any help? 

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Re: MD: recovering deleted TOC

2001-02-13 Thread jtasker


Sounds like a TOC clone should do the trick, what model 
deck do you have?

Josh

 i've accidentally blanked an important recording. since all the data is
 still present, SOMEONE must know how to recover it without the TOC. i'm
 looking for someone who can do this for me; my regular recording engineer
 does not work in MD format. any help? 
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Re: MD: Best buy, phasing out MD equip ??

2001-02-13 Thread Jen Wood


Not that this is on topic or anything but around 2k is pretty standard if
you are building a fairly cutting edge system (not exceptional). My last
(spring 2000) was just over 2k (not including monitor/printer/etc..) 500
might be ok for a out of the box cookie cutter non upgradable sortof web
surfing/word processing system. Unfortunately those systems tend to leave
you stranded in about a year if you are trying to do anything more demanding
with them. For those of us who do gaming/development spending 1-2k every two
years or so is pretty much a given.

-Jen


  [...] Easily over $1000 for an entry-level machine,
  closer to $2000 for a good system.

 Not to be nit-picky, but where'd you get these prices? Those are about
 twice what you should be paying.

 But I agree, it's still far more expensive.

 Josh



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MD: MD Acceptance

2001-02-13 Thread Lee Parry


Hi There,

I've been on this list for AGES now, but have never piped up, until now...

Nothing of importance, just lending my perspective on MD acceptance here in
the UK. I myself have a sony portable, the MZ-R90, Which I'm happy with
(apart from the slow access, toc read/writes, and noisy-ness, although the
battery life is great), the house I live in has 8 people in it, NOT
including mine, there are another 3 portables (2 sony, 1 sharp), and 2
decks.

EVERYBODY I know is now aware of MD and what it is. You can pick up a
'reasonable' md recording solution for much less than a cd-recorder, and the
media is far more resistant to rough handling. A good many of my friends and
even my boss all own MD recorders, there is a huge range also. From sharp,
sony, panasonic, aiwa, goodmans et al. You can also buy a good many of the
models from major high street retailers, Argos, Dixons, Comet, Curry's
(these names mean something if you live in UK :-))

As for whether MD will last much longer against the onslaught of MP3 (which
I also love), I think a combination of fear from the consumer and HIGHLY
expensive media, gives MD still more room for expansion, before the
inevitable descent into legacy.

Although there's a good chance I'll just record my MP3s to my MD until it
eventually packs up.

Lee Parry

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MD: Help! MD stuck in a sharp md-ms722

2001-02-13 Thread Aileen Chen


Hey List =)

My friend has a sharp md-ms722, and she's got a MD stuck in the sucker.
:(  She says that she's done all the normal things but it's never come out
far enough for her to grab it.  Any tips or suggestions as to how she might
extract it? Thanks =)

Aileen
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MD: More on CD vs. MD Sound Quality

2001-02-13 Thread James Jarvie


I'm catching up on a week's worth of digests, so bear
with me for weighing in late.  

Larry had stated that it was his belief that most
people cannot hear the differences in sound, that it 
was more psychological.  Don replied that he does not
subscribe to the notion that people can hear
differences.

I will grant that there is a psychological inclination
to hear differences.  We know there is compression
going on, so there must be a difference.  That being
said, I am here to tell you that in some cases, the
differences are there and noticeable - even when not
listening for them.

I don't know how many people on the list listen to
classical music.  I have made a number of recordings,
Holst's Song of the Night, a piece for violin and
orchestra by Respighi and a piece by Massenet for
piano and either oboe or bassoon - can't remember are
three examples, in which there were moments when the
ATRAC just could not encode the music properly.  On
the first two examples, the problem occurred during an
swell in the orchestra.  In the third, it was  low
chord on the piano.  Each time, the music came across
for a second or two as a noise, sort of as if someone
were blowing across a microphone.  In none of these
cases was I looking for, or expecting to hear, a
difference.  I heard them while listening casually,
and then went back to double check.  No need to do an
A-B (no facility either), this was plainly not a
musical sound.  

I have never noticed any significant differences in
jazz or rock.  

The differences are there in some of the more
difficult classical music recordings.   Unless you
have done this, I don't think you can call your
opinion informed.

That being said, I still love MD.  In those cases
where the MD has had a problem, I just made a CDr.  In
other cases, the MD is fine.  Does a great job on
vocals and choirs too.

James 


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Re: MD: More on CD vs. MD Sound Quality

2001-02-13 Thread Peter Jaques


i've had similar experiences with fairly simple music. on a recording of
solo turkish ney (flute), there are a few moments where there is a very
noticeable squeaky noise high above the instrument. i was surprised, since
flute is an extremely pure sound, very close to a sine wave. on a recording
of brave old world's "rufn di kinder aheym"--bass clarinet  accordion
only-- at the beginning there's a slow volume swell, which md did in much
less subtle steps rather than a smooth crescendo. both were recorded
digitally from cd,  i noticed both without even trying. these were very
noticeable artifacts. my solution has been the same, to make cd-r's of each
of these recordings. in general md is fine (in fact i prefer its
convenience  size).

peter

On 12 Feb 01,  6:28AM, James Jarvie wrote:
 The differences are there in some of the more
 difficult classical music recordings.   Unless you
 have done this, I don't think you can call your
 opinion informed.

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Re: MD: The far horizon of MP3 storage

2001-02-13 Thread Dave Hooper


 Just got back from a visit to an IBM convention.  Perhaps some of you have
 seen this, but they're about to debut, or have just debuted, a portable 1
1/2
 inch square, 1/8" thin one-gigabyte portable "micro drive" that connects
to
 all sorts of things.   Pretty impressive little thing.

IBM MicroDrive.   I thought they'd been around for quite a while, actually.
They allegedly fit into any CompactFlash mkII compatible slot. Maybe it's
just the 1GB-capacity drives that are brand new? A friend bought one (a 1GB
drive) a week or so ago for his Compaq iPaq...  VERY NICE, VERY COOL

 I think the price quoted me was in the 600-800 dollar range.
 Now if they, or a few competitor companies with less corporate-ness, can
just
 deliver it for under 100 bucks.

I think he paid around 400 UKP for it (so that puts it around 600 USD I
guess, yeah)
It's got a high initial latency cos it needs to spin up and spin down (on
devices that use power saving modes, anyway), and that can cause skipping
and drop outs.  Of course once it's going it just keeps going and
everythings ok, but I've seen software stutter when you start playing an MP3
or a MPEG4 video file or whatever (presumably because the software assumes
the file is on regular compact flash memory with instant access etc.)

I heard about a company that could offer 10GB on wafer-thin devices for like
10 bucks.  I think it was on www.beyond2000.com or www.tomshardware.com or
something.
now THAT would make a definite turnaround in portable digital media
players...

D

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MD: The far horizon of MP3 storage

2001-02-13 Thread Crazylips


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Just got back from a visit to an IBM convention.  Perhaps some of you have 
seen this, but they're about to debut, or have just debuted, a portable 1 1/2 
inch square, 1/8" thin one-gigabyte portable "micro drive" that connects to 
all sorts of things.   Pretty impressive little thing.

I think the price quoted me was in the 600-800 dollar range.
Now if they, or a few competitor companies with less corporate-ness, can just 
deliver it for under 100 bucks.



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Re: MD: The far horizon of MP3 storage

2001-02-13 Thread John Small


On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:44:31 -, "Dave Hooper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It's got a high initial latency cos it needs to spin up and spin down (on
devices that use power saving modes, anyway), and that can cause skipping
and drop outs.

It also has a high battery consumption.  I recall 4 hours or less with an iPAQ
compared to 12+ hr. normally from solid state memory.

-jts Arlington, TX
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Re: MD: The far horizon of MP3 storage

2001-02-13 Thread las


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Just got back from a visit to an IBM convention.  Perhaps some of you have
 seen this, but they're about to debut, or have just debuted, a portable 1 1/2
 inch square, 1/8" thin one-gigabyte portable "micro drive" that connects to
 all sorts of things.   Pretty impressive little thing.

 I think the price quoted me was in the 600-800 dollar range.
 Now if they, or a few competitor companies with less corporate-ness, can just
 deliver it for under 100 bucks.


The hell with IBM!!!  I just heard on the news last night that they have been
accused of supplying the punch card equipment to the Nazis to keep track of how
many people they gassed!!!

Punch cards were used before more sophisticated storage media was developed.  It
seems that IBM had a German division even during WW II.  How many people on list
list had relatives that were killed (either as Americans fighting the bastards or
in the camps) during W.W.II

I'm sure it makes you feel good to know that some IBM punch card probably had
their name or number listed (the Nazis destroyed as much as they could-they were
insane record keepers-but just as insane about trying to destroy the evidence).

BLANK IBM!!!



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Re: MD: FM 15khz pilot tone

2001-02-13 Thread Timothy Stockman


Actually, for analog FM stereo, it's 19KHz (+ or - 2 Hz) at 10% or less modulation.  
Also, the lower sideband of the L-R 
stereo subchannel  extends downwards from it's center at 38 KHz towards 19KHz, so you 
may also be getting alias 
components from the extreme high end of the subchannel if the lowpass filter in your 
tuner is not working properly.  To bad 
MD doesn't have an optional 32 KHz sample rate; if it did, the anti-alias filter in 
the recorder would for sure eliminate the 
19KHz pilot subcarrier...   Some modern tuners use a 19KHz cancellation by adding in a 
19 KHz signal 180 degrees out-of-
phase at exactly the right level.  Of course they still need a low pass filter after 
that to take out the alias from the stereo 
subchannel.  The cancellation method just further reduces the level of the continuous 
19 KHz signal...

US analog TV stereo uses a similar scheme, using the horizontal frequency (a little 
less than 15750 Hz) for the pilot and 2X 
that for the stereo subchannel center.


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Re: MD: recovering deleted TOC

2001-02-13 Thread Matthew Bullis


How do you know the data is still present? In my MZ-R70 manual, it says that
once you delete, you can't get it back.
Thanks for any help.
Matthew

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Re: MD: recovering deleted TOC

2001-02-13 Thread Robert J Lynn Jr


I cant remember exatly how to do it, bu TRUST ME, its still there. It just
deletes the entry from the TOC.
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 How do you know the data is still present? In my MZ-R70 manual, it says
that
 once you delete, you can't get it back.
 Thanks for any help.
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Re: MD: recovering deleted TOC

2001-02-13 Thread David W. Tamkin


Matthew Bullis asked,

| How do you know the data is still present? In my MZ-R70 manual, it says that
| once you delete, you can't get it back.

Because some of us have done many successful recoveries.  The data are still
there.

Even Sony's web pages say that once you get past the limitations of your
recorder's Undo feature, you're soaked, but it really isn't true.

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Re: MD: The far horizon of MP3 storage

2001-02-13 Thread Michael Burger



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Ok, ok...let's not get crazy.  Next, we'll be yelling to sue the
companies that made the chemicals used in the gas chambers, or the
companies that made the guns and bullets.

And I'm quite sure that IBM machines were being used to count the
number of Japanese Americans that were placed into relocation camps
here in the US, during WWII, etc.

IBM made a tool.  The Nazis were the ones who used the tool for their
purposes.  Let's leave the blame where it belongs.

On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:21:41 -0500, las wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Just got back from a visit to an IBM convention.  Perhaps some of you have
 seen this, but they're about to debut, or have just debuted, a portable 1 1/2
 inch square, 1/8" thin one-gigabyte portable "micro drive" that connects to
 all sorts of things.   Pretty impressive little thing.

 I think the price quoted me was in the 600-800 dollar range.
 Now if they, or a few competitor companies with less corporate-ness, can just
 deliver it for under 100 bucks.


The hell with IBM!!!  I just heard on the news last night that they have been
accused of supplying the punch card equipment to the Nazis to keep track of how
many people they gassed!!!

Punch cards were used before more sophisticated storage media was developed.  It
seems that IBM had a German division even during WW II.  How many people on list
list had relatives that were killed (either as Americans fighting the bastards or
in the camps) during W.W.II

I'm sure it makes you feel good to know that some IBM punch card probably had
their name or number listed (the Nazis destroyed as much as they could-they were
insane record keepers-but just as insane about trying to destroy the evidence).

BLANK IBM!!!



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Re: MD: The far horizon of MP3 storage

2001-02-13 Thread Don Capps


From: "Michael Burger" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Ok, ok...let's not get crazy.  Next, we'll be yelling to sue the companies
that made the chemicals used in the gas chambers, or the companies that made
the guns and bullets. And I'm quite sure that IBM machines were being used
to count the number of Japanese Americans that were placed into relocation
camps here in the US, during WWII, etc. IBM made a tool.  The Nazis were the
ones who used the tool for their purposes.  Let's leave the blame where it
belongs.

Mike...brace yourself. We agree!  :-D

Don C.

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Re: MD: The far horizon of MP3 storage

2001-02-13 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


* las [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on Tue, 13 Feb 2001
| I'm sure it makes you feel good to know that some IBM punch card probably
| had their name or number listed (the Nazis destroyed as much as they
| could-they were insane record keepers-but just as insane about trying to
| destroy the evidence).

| BLANK IBM!!!

Well, so much for intelligent discourse.

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Re: MD: The far horizon of MP3 storage

2001-02-13 Thread Michael Burger


On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:48:04 -0800, Don Capps wrote:

From: "Michael Burger" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Ok, ok...let's not get crazy.  Next, we'll be yelling to sue the companies
that made the chemicals used in the gas chambers, or the companies that made
the guns and bullets. And I'm quite sure that IBM machines were being used
to count the number of Japanese Americans that were placed into relocation
camps here in the US, during WWII, etc. IBM made a tool.  The Nazis were the
ones who used the tool for their purposes.  Let's leave the blame where it
belongs.

Mike...brace yourself. We agree!  :-D

Oh, the shock, the horror...the world will surely come to an en...oh,
maybe not. 

See...I'm not wholly unreasonable. G

--Mike.


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Re: MD: The far horizon of MP3 storage

2001-02-13 Thread dattier


Michael Burger wrote,

| IBM made a tool.  The Nazis were the ones who used the tool for their
| purposes.

The news is that IBM found out what those purposes were yet continued to deal
with the Third Reich.  If that turns out to be true, you have to acknowledge
that it makes a difference.

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Re: MD: The far horizon of MP3 storage

2001-02-13 Thread las


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The news is that IBM found out what those purposes were yet continued to deal
 with the Third Reich.  If that turns out to be true, you have to acknowledge
 that it makes a difference.

Let's forget about the details of what the Nazis did and just for the moment
acknowledge that we were at war with them and that they did very bad things.  If
what IBM did is true, they helped an enemy that we were at war with!!!

This is a very serious situation.  If it is true, it is no different than if IBM
was making bobs for them to use on us.

I'm not sure that I understood Burger's e mail.  Is he defending them?  If it
turns out not to be true, that is one thing.  But if it is true, this is very
serious.

I don't what to get even further off topic, but there are two factions of Germans
(I'm not saying that there are only two, so don't misunderstand my statement and
start slamming me as to how I could make such stupid generalizations).

One believes that the worst thing Hitler did was fail.  The other are ashamed of
what their grandfathers did.  It's not their fault.  But imagine knowing that you
grandfather was a vicious serial killer who got please out of what he did.

Besides, IBM hasn't done anything to help promote the Mini Disc.

Larry

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