Re: MD: timer juggling
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:13:25 -0600 (CST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a 7-day, 6-event timer for $29.95 I did not see one of these. I will recheck ... but if the R50 turns off after 5 minutes in record pause mode it does not matter. I cannot set the R50 to record one day and the 940 the next. Thanks. -jts - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: timer juggling
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:13:25 -0600 (CST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | It's looking more a more like an LP4 player is the more elegant soln. In the long run, yes, but I've a feeling you won't be able to get one in time for this particular trip. This one time, maybe it's not so bad to copy the LP4 recording made in the 940 to two discs in SP mono. Yes, it takes four hours, but you don't have to sit there and twiddle your thumbs the whole time. I do this two times a week, it's not a one-time issue. That's why re-recording from LP4 to mono is such a PITA. Thanks. -jts Arlington, TX - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: timer juggling (was best portable player)
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:09:33 -0800, Peter Jaques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: say the program is 8-10pm tuesday wednesday. before you leave, set the RS timer to turn on at 7:59pm, put the R50 in rec-pause. set the 940 to turn on at 8pm *wednesday*. this way, every day the tuner turns on at 7:59. first day, that triggers the R50 to turn on. second day, the 940 turns itself on. Unfortunately the 940 uses only an external timer, not it's own internal clock, and the RS $26 electronic timer is 24 hours, and selectable by day. Also I think the R50 will turn itself off after 5 minutes in rec-pause mode. i find the most elegant solution to be the one using the equipment already available;) I agree, using the equipment at hand is preferrable! Thanks. -jts Arlington, TX - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: timer juggling (was best portable player)
John Small wrote, | To be clear, I'm asking about a player only, not recorder. I have an | MZ-R50 that I paid $465 for when it first hit the market three years ago. | It has been wonderful. Now that I have a 940 deck with LP4 I want to use | that for time shifting radio. So I need a player. Otherwise I'm taking | 2-4 hours to copy the LP4 over to mono on the R50. That will work but it's | is time consuming making the transfer. | So I'm looking for a portable player. I have an E40 and most of the time a | player is just fine and if I need portable recording I do have the R50. Here's a thought. You need to record more than 2h40m per session, I infer, or you could record in SP mono on the 940 and play that in the R50 or the E40. You wouldn't need an MDLP player in that case. But each session must be no longer than 5h20m, or even LP4 wouldn't handle it on a single-disc unit like the 940, so what you're recording must be longer than 2h40m but not no longer than 5h20m. The question is this: does whatever you want to time-shift end within 5h20m after you leave or after you go to sleep? If so, you could split the output from the radio to both the R50 and the 940, start the R50 recording in [SP] mono manually before you leave or before you go to sleep, set the timer for the 940 to take over (also in SP mono) when the R50's disc is about to fill, and get the recording in SP mono across two discs, which the R50 or the E40 could play with no problem. Let's say you go to sleep at 11:00 PM and the program is on from midnight to 4 AM. You start the R50 recording in mono at 11, and it stops at 1:42 when the disc is full; the timer starts the 940 recording at 1:40 and either stops it at 4:05 (in case the show runs late or runs long) or lets the disc fill at 4:22. You get the whole show, some extra stuff you don't have to listen to, and 1m58s overlap between the two discs. When you wake up, you put the first disc into the 940, start to divide, set the rehearsal point increment to minutes, divide at 58:00 (in case the show started early), and delete track 1. That way you won't have to FF through everything that was on from 11 to mid- night when you get your chance to listen. If the program you're time-shifting ends more than 5h20 after you leave or go to sleep, then that won't work. You'd need a second timer-operable deck and a second timer to record that first disc, and for that cost you might as well stick with your first plan and buy an MDLP portable player. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: timer juggling (was best portable player)
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:43:24 -0600 (CST), "David W. Tamkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so what you're recording must be longer than 2h40m but not no longer than 5h20m That's correct. Specifically two 2-hour programs (Diane Ream) on successive days ... otherwise when I'm at home between programs I can just record in mono mode as you suggested (and I do). set the timer for the 940 to take over (also in SP mono) when the R50's disc is about to fill, and get the recording in SP mono across two discs, which the R50 or the E40 could play with no problem. Yes, that's an interesting suggestion. I could purchase another Radio Shack timer and put the R50 on this ... ah, but nothing I see in the manual about time recording for the R50. Rats, if only the 510 sitting on my self was working (but if it was I would not have the 940!). Otherwise I cannot split this way as the show comes on about 2 hours after I would turn the R50 on ... I would get 40 minutes of it only. Still, an interesting suggestion. Thanks. -jts Arlington, TX - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: timer juggling (was best portable player)
On 20 Feb 01, 11:16AM, John Small wrote: Yes, that's an interesting suggestion. I could purchase another Radio Shack timer and put the R50 on this ... ah, but nothing I see in the manual about time recording for the R50. Rats, if only the 510 sitting on my self was working (but if it was I would not have the 940!). Otherwise I cannot split this way as the show comes on about 2 hours after I would turn the R50 on ... I would get 40 minutes of it only. how about this modification: buy the radio shack timer put your TUNER on it; set the r50 to synchro-record leave it in rec-pause. when the tuner turns on automatically, the r50 will start recording. then you can use david's suggestion to turn the 940 on automatically when the r50's about to fill up. peter - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: timer juggling
John explained that what he wants to record are | ... specifically two 2-hour programs (Diane Ream) on successive days ... when he'll have to be elsewhere overnight. | I could purchase another Radio Shack timer and put the R50 on this ... ah, | but nothing I see in the manual about time recording for the R50. No, it doesn't. As Peter has noted, synchro-record would work. Otherwise, would anyone else be able to switch the disc for you? If you live alone, will a neighbor have a key? Can a friend in the DFW area record one of the shows for you? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: timer juggling (was best portable player)
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:30:04 -0800, Peter Jaques [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how about this modification: buy the radio shack timer put your TUNER on it; set the r50 to synchro-record leave it in rec-pause. when the tuner turns on automatically, the r50 will start recording. then you can use david's suggestion to turn the 940 on automatically when the r50's about to fill up. Thanks for the suggestion. The timer will only do 24 hours and not by day. I need to record two hours one day and two the next and I will have to turn both on at the same time as I'll be away during that time period from time to time. I could look for a weekly 24 hour timer, but last I looked several years ago they were in the $100 range. Which puts me in the range of costs (well, close enough given the effort involved) associated with buying an LP4 player in the first place. Thanks. -jts - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: timer juggling
* "David W. Tamkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 20 Feb 2001 | Otherwise, would anyone else be able to switch the disc for you? If you live | alone, will a neighbor have a key? Can a friend in the DFW area record one | of the shows for you? At this point I suspect something like Creative's Nomad Jukebox would be useful. One of its features is the ability to record some 5-6 hours of 16-bit PCM (WAV) audio from a live source, more if you hack in a bigger disk. You can then play it back to your recorder or upload it to whatever host machine (yay, USB). -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, get Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ away immediately. Seek shelter and cover PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ head. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: timer juggling
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 18:18:08 -0600 (CST), "David W. Tamkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Otherwise, would anyone else be able to switch the disc for you? My wife ... but I'd be asking for a domestic dispute! g Using both recorders seems to be a soln provided the timers can be programmed by days. But alas, it is a 24 hour timer only. $26 at RS. The other timers I have seen (tho I have not looked in several years) are in the $100 range. It's looking more a more like an LP4 player is the more elegant soln. Thanks. -jts Arlington, TX - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: timer juggling (was best portable player)
On 20 Feb 01, 8:24PM, John Small wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. The timer will only do 24 hours and not by day. I need to record two hours one day and two the next and I will have to turn both on at the same time as I'll be away during that time period from time to time. actually, i think my suggestion would still work, depending on when you leave. say the program is 8-10pm tuesday wednesday. before you leave, set the RS timer to turn on at 7:59pm, put the R50 in rec-pause. set the 940 to turn on at 8pm *wednesday*. this way, every day the tuner turns on at 7:59. first day, that triggers the R50 to turn on. second day, the 940 turns itself on. this would only work if you are leaving after 10pm monday night. otherwise the R50 will turn on on the wrong day. i find the most elegant solution to be the one using the equipment already available;) who needs to spend more money? this way you can wait on the mldp portable until their prices come down a bit. take care, peter - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: timer juggling
When I asked, Otherwise, would anyone else be able to switch the disc for you? John answered, | My wife ... but I'd be asking for a domestic dispute! g Switching discs some time during the day you're gone is too much to ask? Sounds as though you're already deep in a domestic dispute over something else. If getting her to move the rec-off-play selector to OFF and turn the timer on so that she can eject the disc and then turn the timer off again and move the selectro back to REC so that it can come on when the show starts is too much, try this: set it to turn off three minutes before the show starts and on again one minute later (two minutes before the show starts, in case it begins early). Then there will be power to the deck almost all day long. Yes, each disc will fill to 2h41m58s, but you don't have to listen to what comes after the show you want to hear. All she'll need to do is eject the first disc and insert the second one within about 21h30m after the first disc fills and the deck stops. She won't have to move the rec-off-play selector even once. | Using both recorders seems to be a soln provided the timers can be | programmed by days. But alas, it is a 24 hour timer only. $26 at RS. The | other timers I have seen (tho I have not looked in several years) are in | the $100 range. Radio Shack, when I looked, had a 24-hour, 1-event timer for $24.95 and a 7-day, 6-event timer for $29.95. I bought two of the latter for the two decks I had at the time. One got physically damaged in use (prongs bent) so I replaced it with a 7-day, 14-event Intermatic timer from Home Depot. | It's looking more a more like an LP4 player is the more elegant soln. In the long run, yes, but I've a feeling you won't be able to get one in time for this particular trip. This one time, maybe it's not so bad to copy the LP4 recording made in the 940 to two discs in SP mono. Yes, it takes four hours, but you don't have to sit there and twiddle your thumbs the whole time. You can program the 940 to play the first track, do other things for just over two hours, switch discs in the R50, put the 940 back into continue mode and start play from the beginning of the second track. (Or instead of using program play to make it stop after track 1, you could just put the 940 into Auto-Pause. Or you could copy track 2, delete track 2 when you come back to switch discs in the R50, and then play track 1.) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
