Re: [MBZ] VATERLAND!

[Bob Rentfro]

The Pope is staying at your friend's home also? Holy Genuflection!

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 146K
Litchfield Park,  AZ


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Subject: [MBZ] VATERLAND!


Have to share this with y'all. My German penpal,  Paul, invited me to visit 
him for two weeks in September this year. I  can stay on his couch, so 
airfare and spend money is all I need.  Awesome. He has a Ford Escort :-( 
but is gung ho on seeing not only the  sights in Regensburg (where he lives) 
and Bavaria, but is dedicated to  get me to Sindelfingen, the musueum at 
Untertuerkheim and the classic  center in Fellbach.


 Wunderbar - can't wait!

 The Pope will be there at the same time (he's Bavarian) and we are both 
Catholic, so this should be quite an experience!


 Will post pics of MB related stuff for y'all afterwards on my picture 
blogger. And will keep in touch with the list while I'm gone.


 Chris



Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
-2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose"
-1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen"
-1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf"
-1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
-1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"

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Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question

[redghost]

There are four clips about an inch in from the corners front and back.  
Using a VERY thin prying screw driver, either pop up from the center 
and work to a side or pick a corner and pry up.  May be a good thing to 
use the steel part to glue the wood onto


On Friday, January 6, 2006, at 02:43 PM, R A Bennell wrote:

Anyone know how I get this "glued-on vinyl/foam over metal thing" 
loose from

the dash?
The idea of making a wooden one appeals to me but I would need to get 
this

one off first to use as a sort of a pattern.

Randy

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As for the speaker cover, I changed to the wood trim dash and it was
missing a cover.  I found one at PnP, but it is pretty weather worn 
and

needs to have the cover heated and re-attached.  Anybody have a good
idea how to make that happen?  Thought a slow oven may do, but 
probably

would just melt it all


That's a tough one.  The Frankenheap's grille is hard black plastic,
and is just fine.  But the usual one I see, and the one that is
in the Ebola Fishtank, is that glued-on vinyl/foam over metal thing.
I never have seen a good one of those.

One other option would be to make a nice wooden one.  That would
be somewhat labor-intensive.

Temperature control on your oven would be critical.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Spare 115 relays?

[redghost]

I gave up and went to Benz Friendz for a relay.  Seems both the hazard 
and the blinker relay were bad.  Will re-solder the old ones.


Took a look at the footwells too.  SOAKED, I mean really soaking wet 
carpet.  Got to drag those out and ran shop vac to get some moisture to 
leave.  Got the tiny plug in fan and some calcium choride to suck up 
the vapor.  It may dry out in May or July.


Lady across the street told me to go get some clear latex gack and gack 
up the window and any other leak.  Nice little old lady.  Said she did 
that to her buick.  Not sure if I should use the large tube and do both 
sides of the windows.  Not ready to spring for new glass, since I want 
to paint while the glass is out, and I have passed budget on the car 
for the month


On Friday, January 6, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


I may just have to seal old Gump up for winters and vacuum wrap her to
keep her dry.


What about the periodically-on-sale $170 Harbor Freight portable 
garage?

I have one but have not set it up, so I can't speak to just how bad it
might be, but it's a thought.  I know, it's galling to contemplate
spending more on the tent than you did on the car that goes in it!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Car Fax - 1981 300SE

[MICHAEL ESH]

Will parts from a 1981 300SE interchange with 1981 300 SD?
Is there a fee for the Car Fax? I saw a few other requests for these.
I have a chance to purchase the 81 SE fro $200.00
The engine is intact but not running, some rust, all glass and lights are 
good, interior is average no rips and dark blue leather.  Anyone need parts 
or the whole car.

It is in Muskegon, Michigan

Mike

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Could someone please run a carfax on CA33A9BB018602

Can the parts from this car interchange with a 1981 300SD?
Other than the engine of course.

Mike
Michigan

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[MBZ] Tire Qualiy

[Tom Scordato]

Is it me or are tires not lasting as long as they did?   I seem to remember 
getting more mileage (and more even wear) from Michelin, Goodyear ect. all 
season radial tires in general on many types of sedan and station wagon 
vehicles in the mid to late 1980 when this country was on a quality push.


My mechanic said the same thing, tires over the last 5 years or so are not 
lasting as long.  Not just on the MB I have but he say in general across the 
board.  I have no scientific proof but...  Your thoughts?


Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA



































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Got me then on red dot.  The large thing is what Gump came with.
Finding that console at PnP is rare compared to the other and I would
have to assume from taking the parts out of the console that placement
down low for the larger relay  may have interfered with the squirrel
cage for the AC.  Then, again, the ash tray takes up the same depth at
that latitude.

Part is part, and I would be more inclined to really screw with things
if I had a warm dry place to work .  Worked well in the summer when it
was not raining, but now, just no room, and I am not allowed to spray
paint inside either.

I may just have to seal old Gump up for winters and vacuum wrap her to
keep her dry.

On Thursday, January 5, 2006, at 10:57 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


I am a lazy SOB, and have spent the past two days chasing a trunk leak
in the driving rain.  For the life of me, i have no idea where the
water is getting in.  About to park my behind in the trunk with a
light
and see where it is getting in.  New tail lights with gaskets and
newer
trunk seal.  Have not been able to find if the rear window is leaking.


Probably that, or the fuel grommet.  My understanding of leak
faults is #1 taillights, #2 window.  The rest lost in the noise.
But I could have those first two backwards!


A huge genset is not the same as a silly relay


Parts is parts, it's all just a matter of scale.  And the will
to not take any backtalk from machinery, neither big nor small.
Sometimes, of course, it has the last word anyway.


Not sure why some cars got the red dot and some had the other.  May be
an AC thing.  now that I think on it, the dots are found in the cars
with air at PnP, and found the larger ones on non AC.  Also something
with the seat belt lamp being in the place the red dot lives.


Riddle me this:  the Frankenheap has no AC, and has a red dot.
The Ebola Fishtank has AC, and has a red dot.   I think it's just
age-related.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Preventative vs Preventive

[R A Bennell]

Someone, sorry can't recall who, raised a question of whether the word is
"preventive" or "preventative". Language is sort of my business so it got me
to thinking. I finally took the time to check it out and the bottom line is
that both appear in my dictionary and mean the same thing. Interesting. I
would always use the latter and never really think of the former.

Randy

Re: [MBZ] glue oozing mirror

[Christopher McCann]

85 300SD
  saw it on another one too (maybe an 84)
  and on a 8? 300D (W123)
  
  Chris

Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Christopher McCann wrote:
> I'm the subject line describes this common problem adequately. Every winter, 
> I scrape it off (too gooey in the summer).
>   
>  QUESTION: Would a new mirror start doing the same oozing right away or  
> would it take, oh, tne years before it started oozing? That would be  nice.

None of my mirrors have EVER oozed. What car/year?

Marshall
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Yes, Interior rear view mirror. The cases I have seen are IDENTICAL and that 
makes me think it is not a PO done thing.
  
  Chris

ned kleinhenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Are you guys talking about the 
INTERIOR rear view mirror?

My '95 E300D (W124) has that yellow foamy stuff around the edge of the
interior mirror glass.
I figured the glass must have fell out sometime.
And a PO reglued it with propylene glue or whatever that expanding yellow
persistent glue is called.
This car came from Texas.  Maybe the summer heat did it?

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-1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf" 
-1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
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Re: [MBZ] glue oozing mirror

[Jim Cathey]

Another oozer herewhat to do???


I've got them too.  Not all of them, of course.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset

[Jim Cathey]

Isn't an inherent byproduct of propane combustion lots of H2O?


Yes.  But I'm running scared now!

I didn't want to put antifreeze in in case I need to do the
block sealer trick.  It's incompatible with it during treatment,
so I didn't want to have to do a lot of flushing to get it back
to the pristine state it is in now.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] glue oozing mirror

[Rhonald Angelo]

Another oozer herewhat to do???

Rhonald

1985 300D
284,000 miles
Washington, DC

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Christopher McCann wrote:
> I'm the subject line describes this common problem adequately. Every 
winter, I scrape it off (too gooey in the summer).

>
>   QUESTION: Would a new mirror start doing the same oozing right away or  
would it take, oh, tne years before it started oozing? That would be  nice.


None of my mirrors have EVER oozed. What car/year?

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] glue oozing mirror

[Bob Rentfro]

Ned wondered:

"Maybe the summer heat did it?"


I've never had a gloozing mirror and all but one of my MB in the history of 
time have been desert wicked hot cars.

I have had, however, many cases of the "accordion" trim on the doors


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 146K
Litchfield Park, AZ

Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset

[Kevin]

On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 02:25:32PM -0800, Zeitgeist wrote:
> Isn't an inherent byproduct of propane combustion lots of H2O?

Yes, moreso than conventional gasoline.

K

Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset

[Zeitgeist]

Isn't an inherent byproduct of propane combustion lots of H2O?

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)

Re: [MBZ] glue oozing mirror

[ned kleinhenz]

Are you guys talking about the INTERIOR rear view mirror?

My '95 E300D (W124) has that yellow foamy stuff around the edge of the
interior mirror glass.
I figured the glass must have fell out sometime.
And a PO reglued it with propylene glue or whatever that expanding yellow
persistent glue is called.
This car came from Texas.  Maybe the summer heat did it?

Ned Kleinhenz

Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset

[R A Bennell]

Put antifreeze in rather than water. That may assist you in determining if
what is coming out is condensation or worse. Someone else suggested dye and
that might be even more helpful.

Randy

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On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 12:26:05PM -0800, Jim Cathey wrote:
> After #6 was firing, it also blew warm air and water out of it like
> the others.  I let the engine idle long enough to warm up quite a bit,
> and all the water stopped coming out.  Just condensation?  Seems like
> it might be, and I _really_ hope so!

I'd imagine that's just condensation, especially with how moist [and cold]
your atmosphere is.

Like anything, keep an eye on the coolant consumption and oil consumption
for the first few runs before you really use it.

I'd expect that you're fine though.

K

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Re: [MBZ] glue oozing mirror

[Marshall Booth]

Christopher McCann wrote:

I'm the subject line describes this common problem adequately. Every winter, I 
scrape it off (too gooey in the summer).
  
  QUESTION: Would a new mirror start doing the same oozing right away or  would it take, oh, tne years before it started oozing? That would be  nice.


None of my mirrors have EVER oozed. What car/year?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset

[Kevin]

On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 12:26:05PM -0800, Jim Cathey wrote:
> After #6 was firing, it also blew warm air and water out of it like
> the others.  I let the engine idle long enough to warm up quite a bit,
> and all the water stopped coming out.  Just condensation?  Seems like
> it might be, and I _really_ hope so!

I'd imagine that's just condensation, especially with how moist [and cold]
your atmosphere is.

Like anything, keep an eye on the coolant consumption and oil consumption 
for the first few runs before you really use it.

I'd expect that you're fine though.

K

Re: [MBZ] SUPERCOOL MOG CAMPER

[Werner Fehlauer]

For you listers that don't read "Mercedes Enthusiast" out of the U.K., the 
January 2006 issue has an article about the "ultimate" Unimog - specially 
built and prepared by Brabus.  Here's the specs:


6.4 Liter straight 6 turboDiesel 280hP @ 2200 rpm, 811 lb-ft 1200-1600 rpm;

8 forward and 8 reverse gears, with a 2 range transfer case so that you have 
24 forward and 24 reverse gearrs;


In lowest gear, rated to pull 1100 Tonnes;

can handle a 45degree slope;

max speed 78 mph;

Tires (spelled tyres in the U.K.) 445/70R24, on 13Jx24 rims;

Weight: 8000 lbs;

12V and 24V DC power points, for the 20 ton hydraulic winch;

Big stereo system, M class Comand display; very plush inside;

Aluminum body, Stainless roll bas, etc.;

cost: 230,000 Euros.

First one is in Dubai; second one to be built in January 06.





Werner
(with very small '83SD, and smaller '90D 2.5!)

Re: [MBZ] SUPERCOOL MOG CAMPER

[Christopher McCann]

googling "tatra" now
  
  Chris

Lee Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   

Chris writes:

> 
>  http://www.vermont-unimog.com/
>   
>   front and center: "Expedition Camper." Now if I lit the 
> lottery, I  would buy THAT. Is that a snorkel I spy? SO 
> Waterproof camper shell?  Looks like it would sleep 5. Sweet.

Naw, I'd buy the 8 wheel drive Tatra and build *that* into a nice offroad
camper...

Always loved those trucks ever since I first saw them racing in the
Paris-Dakar rally.

Lee


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seems perfect for transporting and launching intermediate range ballistic 
missals.
  
  Also Tatra is a Russian auto company. Interesting.
  
  Chris

Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  googling "tatra" now
  
  Chris

Lee Levitt  wrote:   

Chris writes:

> 
>  http://www.vermont-unimog.com/
>   
>   front and center: "Expedition Camper." Now if I lit the 
> lottery, I  would buy THAT. Is that a snorkel I spy? SO 
> Waterproof camper shell?  Looks like it would sleep 5. Sweet.

Naw, I'd buy the 8 wheel drive Tatra and build *that* into a nice offroad
camper...

Always loved those trucks ever since I first saw them racing in the
Paris-Dakar rally.

Lee


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Re: [MBZ] Took the plunge

[Rusty Cullens]

Curt, thanks for the order. The shaft was back ordered here and is
coming from Germany. It will be about 7 to 10 days. 

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To put an end to my suffering I coughed up the bread and bought a new
driveshaft (well really only the front half) from Rusty. I'm ready to be
driving the 190D rather than having it sit in my Indy's driveway.
  Before I bought I used the IM feature on Rusty's site to ask about
price. I gotta say thats pretty dammed cool! Good job Rusty.
   
  When I called to buy Gary put me on hold and passed me off to Tom,
sneaky Tom covered for him, but I knew the truth, he somehow knew
from my voice I was a lister and ran in horror. ;)
   
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[MBZ] Took the plunge

[Curt Raymond]

To put an end to my suffering I coughed up the bread and bought a new 
driveshaft (well really only the front half) from Rusty. I'm ready to be 
driving the 190D rather than having it sit in my Indy's driveway.
  Before I bought I used the IM feature on Rusty's site to ask about price. I 
gotta say thats pretty dammed cool! Good job Rusty.
   
  When I called to buy Gary put me on hold and passed me off to Tom, sneaky 
Tom covered for him, but I knew the truth, he somehow knew from my voice I was 
a lister and ran in horror. ;)
   
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Anyone know how I get this "glued-on vinyl/foam over metal thing" loose from
the dash?
The idea of making a wooden one appeals to me but I would need to get this
one off first to use as a sort of a pattern.

Randy

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> As for the speaker cover, I changed to the wood trim dash and it was
> missing a cover.  I found one at PnP, but it is pretty weather worn and
> needs to have the cover heated and re-attached.  Anybody have a good
> idea how to make that happen?  Thought a slow oven may do, but probably
> would just melt it all

That's a tough one.  The Frankenheap's grille is hard black plastic,
and is just fine.  But the usual one I see, and the one that is
in the Ebola Fishtank, is that glued-on vinyl/foam over metal thing.
I never have seen a good one of those.

One other option would be to make a nice wooden one.  That would
be somewhat labor-intensive.

Temperature control on your oven would be critical.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset

[Jim Cathey]

I started it at idle (removed throttle rod and put the spring on in
its place) and noticed quite a bit of water blowing out of the exhaust
manifold, complete with hissing and other scary behavior.  Also drips
from the manifold nuts.  I was a bit concerned, as I've no idea how
much initial condensation water is supposed to blow out of an engine
like this.  I don't really have that much experience with big iron.
So I pulled off the exhaust manifold and fired it up again.

Hmm, #6 is blowing cold air, not warm.  I'd wondered about that based
on the condition of the cylinder head when I pulled it.  Also, the
engine didn't run as smoothly as it seems to me an I6 should have.  I
pulled the #6 wire and there was no spark.  I stopped the engine and
removed the wire (which is a replacement and unlike the others) and
found it to be open.  I removed the distributor-end vampire clip and
that end seemed to be OK.  I noticed that the other end was torn some
at the metal clip, it's possible that it was yanked on or something.
I pulled the clip off and jammed the ohmmeter probe into the neck: no
continuity.  So I cut off about 1/2" and tried again.  I had to cut
off a little over an inch in 1/4" bites before I got continuity.
Fortunately there was enough slack in the wire to still reach.  With
the wire somewhat reassembled the engine ran much smoother.

After #6 was firing, it also blew warm air and water out of it like
the others.  I let the engine idle long enough to warm up quite a bit,
and all the water stopped coming out.  Just condensation?  Seems like
it might be, and I _really_ hope so!

Thoughts from the experienced among us?

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Rendezvous, the movie

[RELNGSON]

I rented a copy from the public library about 25 years ago.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] SUPERCOOL MOG CAMPER

[Lee Levitt]

 

Chris writes:

> 
>  http://www.vermont-unimog.com/
>   
>   front and center: "Expedition Camper." Now if I lit the 
> lottery, I  would buy THAT. Is that a snorkel I spy? SO 
> Waterproof camper shell?  Looks like it would sleep 5. Sweet.

Naw, I'd buy the 8 wheel drive Tatra and build *that* into a nice offroad
camper...

Always loved those trucks ever since I first saw them racing in the
Paris-Dakar rally.

Lee

[MBZ] "Staggered wheels"

[RELNGSON]

<>

You are uninformed. Almost any MB with AMG wheels has wider wheels in back. 
As one example, I have a set of 17" C36 wheels on my C320, 7.5 inches wide in 
front and 8.5 inches wide in the rear. This has been a common optional fitment 
for at least ten years.

>From a pinchpenny's point of view, you bet it's impractical. You can't rotate 
them. My car seems to be eating rear tires (S-03s) at three times the rate of 
the fronts.

RLE/Seattle

Re: [MBZ] Spare 115 relays?

[Jim Cathey]

I may just have to seal old Gump up for winters and vacuum wrap her to
keep her dry.


What about the periodically-on-sale $170 Harbor Freight portable garage?
I have one but have not set it up, so I can't speak to just how bad it
might be, but it's a thought.  I know, it's galling to contemplate
spending more on the tent than you did on the car that goes in it!

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Pimp my W-126 Take 2

[Lee Einer]

Ed Booher wrote:


Thought filters had "Seek and
Destroy" orders on all Pimping!


Wow, you have "thought filters?" With "seek and destroy" capabilities?

The Bush administration wants your technology...

 



Lee Einer
Dos Manos Jewelry
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Re: [MBZ] Pimped 190E

[Ed Booher]

Mmmm  got to keep my pimpin' hand strong.

On 1/4/06, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is wrong on s many levels...
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4599940334
>
> Look closely - it's got hydraulics too. (*shudder*)
>
>
> O_o
>
> --
> Dave M.
> Boise, ID



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Re: [MBZ] Pimp my W-126 Take 2

[Ed Booher]

Ah Hah!

Knew there was supposed to be more! Thought filters had "Seek and
Destroy" orders on all Pimping! All is forgiven, except my behavior. I
don't think that has ever been forgiven.

Ed

On 1/3/06, Peter Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fat thumbs on previous post, sorry.
>
> One of my co-workers has done a grand job refurbishing and upgrading
> to interior of his 1991 W-126 Vergasser.  "Big" stereo, TV's in head
> rests, etc.
>
> Now he wants to put one of those pimp grill with the M/B star on it.
> I've tried to reason with him, he's single and desperate.
>
> Nice fellow, I'd like to help him, anybody have a source for these?  I
> tried Rusty and was relieved to find that even he hasn't sunk that low
> yet ;-)
>
> --
>
> Peter T. Arnold
> Windsor, Connecticut
> U.S.A.
>
> 1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 234 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%
>
> 1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 192 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes
>
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>
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Re: [MBZ] Pimp my W-126

[Ed Booher]

Pete,

Was there supposed to be a link, or information, or diatribe, or hell
a full on rant here? Because I didn't see it.

Thanks,

Ed

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Re: [MBZ] Wood Refinish Guy

[redghost]

did you try www.customdashboard.com

On Thursday, January 5, 2006, at 02:00 PM, John Peterson wrote:

Does anyone remember the contact info for the wood refinish guy that 
mbz.org

used to recommend?  I'm looking for him.

John Peterson
1991 300D 2.5 77k


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Re: [MBZ] Spare 115 relays?

[redghost]

Got me then on red dot.  The large thing is what Gump came with.  
Finding that console at PnP is rare compared to the other and I would 
have to assume from taking the parts out of the console that placement 
down low for the larger relay  may have interfered with the squirrel 
cage for the AC.  Then, again, the ash tray takes up the same depth at 
that latitude.


Part is part, and I would be more inclined to really screw with things 
if I had a warm dry place to work .  Worked well in the summer when it 
was not raining, but now, just no room, and I am not allowed to spray 
paint inside either.


I may just have to seal old Gump up for winters and vacuum wrap her to 
keep her dry.


On Thursday, January 5, 2006, at 10:57 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


I am a lazy SOB, and have spent the past two days chasing a trunk leak
in the driving rain.  For the life of me, i have no idea where the
water is getting in.  About to park my behind in the trunk with a 
light
and see where it is getting in.  New tail lights with gaskets and 
newer

trunk seal.  Have not been able to find if the rear window is leaking.


Probably that, or the fuel grommet.  My understanding of leak
faults is #1 taillights, #2 window.  The rest lost in the noise.
But I could have those first two backwards!


A huge genset is not the same as a silly relay


Parts is parts, it's all just a matter of scale.  And the will
to not take any backtalk from machinery, neither big nor small.
Sometimes, of course, it has the last word anyway.


Not sure why some cars got the red dot and some had the other.  May be
an AC thing.  now that I think on it, the dots are found in the cars
with air at PnP, and found the larger ones on non AC.  Also something
with the seat belt lamp being in the place the red dot lives.


Riddle me this:  the Frankenheap has no AC, and has a red dot.
The Ebola Fishtank has AC, and has a red dot.   I think it's just
age-related.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Car/Truck Fax, Bitte

[Bob Rentfro]

Kaleb
Could you check this, please

2FTHF25F4TCA57549

Donkey Shirts

Bob Rentfro
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Rode in the SDL for the first time today in a while.  Sounds like its
> got a bad motor mount.  I just replaced those stupid things a year or so
> ago.

Two possibilities, new old stock that's already rotted OR poor quality
afermarket merchandise. I have heard from several mechanics that
aftermarket motor mounts are VERY unreliable. My own experience is that
aftermarket rubber parts (motor mounts, nitrogen spheres, window and
door seals, serp belt tensioner shock absorbers, etc) have NOT been
reliable.

Marshall
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[MBZ] cheap Cali SDL

[Luther Gulseth]

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'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

[MBZ] Car Fax - 1981 300SE

[michaelesh]

Could someone please run a carfax on CA33A9BB018602

Can the parts from this car interchange with a 1981 300SD?
Other than the engine of course.

Mike
Michigan

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz Classic Magazine

[Sunil Hari]

The most recent issue I have has 100 pages (incl. back cover) and have 5
pages of non-Mercedes ads.  Has 4 pages of MB ads, and 2 pages of MB Classic
ads.  Given that only 11% of their magazine is ads, it's no wonder that
subscription costs are so high.  Normal newshole on a magazine is around
30-40%, and as high as 50-60% in women's magazines.

On 1/6/06, V Layton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Vince
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> > > Vince
> > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset

[Jim Cathey]

I wonder if you would have been ok the second time had the gasket been
replaced. Another thought I had was that you were using straight water


I wonder too.  An expensive, and time-consuming (special-order)
experiment.  The $2 can of spray copper goo was more my speed
right now.

instead of 50/50 mix for coolant. Not sure if that would make a 
difference

though.


I don't think so.

I'm betting you have the head removal/replacement down to a science 
and can

probably do it in half or less time then the first attempt.


Yeah, it goes a lot quicker the more you do it!


Glad to hear you are making progressguessing your wife is as well.


She is.  I'm just hoping that the lack of leaks is confirmed
with future activity.  Now on to making a new water pump 'molded'
hose out of copper elbows, etc., antifreeze, and thence to taming
the 300V (!) output.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] glue oozing mirror

[Loren Faeth]

Yeah, I was poking fun at all of us, myself included.  I try to keep the 
"sunday car" nice and the other half tries to keep her TD nice(with some 
help)  With a fleet of aging MBs, I just can't keep up with all the little, 
non-critical things.


At 09:14 AM 1/6/2006, you wrote:
anal - maybe. BUT I decided NOT to have all the  woodwork redone to remove 
cracks in the lacquer. I figure they'll just  come back over time. BUT to 
compensate for leaving the cracks, I wanted  to do something and the 
oozing, crusty, psoriatic, puss-like mirror  REALLY annoys me and thought 
it would make things look nicer and not  cost nearly as much as the 
woodwork...more nice for the buck.


  Anyway, I'm sure my upcoming leather repair, seat 
re-springinging,  Hella light upgrade and window tinting camapaign would 
REQUALIFY me as  anal! One thing is that I only act this way towards the 
SD. The TD has  5 cracker munching, drink spilling kids in it, so I don't 
care and the  240D...well, that might DISQUALIFY me as anal forever.


  My upcoming $100 VW diesel Golf purchase might "help" too.

  :-)

  Chris

Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  My oozer is the 86 SDL  It 
started in the summer of 04 when it was really hot


I have never de-crusted mine.  I believe leaving a crust around the edges
keeps any further crust from forming.  Never tested the theory though.  I
thought the catalyst reactivated when it was extremely hot though, not in
the winter.  Heat would be in line with the little chemistry I learned.

Chris, maybe you are just too anal retentive.  Chill, and use the mirror,
don't look at the edges!

If you do figger it out, let us know.  I am not sure I want to spring for a
new mirror if that is the cure.  I just gave up on trying to make 20 year
old cars look like now a long time ago.

At 08:13 AM 1/6/2006, you wrote:
>I'm the subject line describes this common problem adequately. Every
>winter, I scrape it off (too gooey in the summer).
>
>   QUESTION: Would a new mirror start doing the same oozing right away
> or  would it take, oh, tne years before it started oozing? That would 
be  nice.

>
>   Chris
>
>
>
>Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
>-2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose"
>-1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen"
>-1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf"
>-1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
>-1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
>-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"
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Re: [MBZ] glue oozing mirror

[Christopher McCann]

anal - maybe. BUT I decided NOT to have all the  woodwork redone to remove 
cracks in the lacquer. I figure they'll just  come back over time. BUT to 
compensate for leaving the cracks, I wanted  to do something and the oozing, 
crusty, psoriatic, puss-like mirror  REALLY annoys me and thought it would make 
things look nicer and not  cost nearly as much as the woodwork...more nice for 
the buck.
  
  Anyway, I'm sure my upcoming leather repair, seat re-springinging,  Hella 
light upgrade and window tinting camapaign would REQUALIFY me as  anal! One 
thing is that I only act this way towards the SD. The TD has  5 cracker 
munching, drink spilling kids in it, so I don't care and the  240D...well, that 
might DISQUALIFY me as anal forever.
  
  My upcoming $100 VW diesel Golf purchase might "help" too.
  
  :-)
  
  Chris

Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  My oozer is the 86 SDL  It started in 
the summer of 04 when it was really hot

I have never de-crusted mine.  I believe leaving a crust around the edges 
keeps any further crust from forming.  Never tested the theory though.  I 
thought the catalyst reactivated when it was extremely hot though, not in 
the winter.  Heat would be in line with the little chemistry I learned.

Chris, maybe you are just too anal retentive.  Chill, and use the mirror, 
don't look at the edges!

If you do figger it out, let us know.  I am not sure I want to spring for a 
new mirror if that is the cure.  I just gave up on trying to make 20 year 
old cars look like now a long time ago.

At 08:13 AM 1/6/2006, you wrote:
>I'm the subject line describes this common problem adequately. Every 
>winter, I scrape it off (too gooey in the summer).
>
>   QUESTION: Would a new mirror start doing the same oozing right away 
> or  would it take, oh, tne years before it started oozing? That would be  
> nice.
>
>   Chris
>
>
>
>Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
>-2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose"
>-1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen"
>-1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf"
>-1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
>-1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
>-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"
>
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Re: [MBZ] stupid motor mounts

[Hans Neureiter]

I was wondering about that earlier how long are these rubber parts been on
the shelve. 10 - 15 years?
Rubber decays with time, no matter if in use or not.
I got 'NEW' fork bellows for my Triumph. They split as I put them on.


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>
> Rode in the SDL for the first time today in a while.  Sounds like its
> got a bad motor mount.  I just replaced those stupid things a year or so
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Re: [MBZ] glue oozing mirror

[Christopher McCann]

I've seen this oozing on W123 mirrors too...this  is the SD I'm talking about 
now. Neither the TD nor the 240D  ooze...talking about rear view mirror, BTW.
  
  Chris

V Layton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Don't know, weird symptom, isn't it?

Vince


>From: Christopher McCann 
>Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [MBZ] glue oozing mirror
>Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 06:13:03 -0800 (PST)
>
>I'm the subject line describes this common problem adequately. Every 
>winter, I scrape it off (too gooey in the summer).
>
>   QUESTION: Would a new mirror start doing the same oozing right away or  
>would it take, oh, tne years before it started oozing? That would be  nice.
>
>   Chris
>
>
>
>Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
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>-1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen"
>-1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf"
>-1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
>-1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
>-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"
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My oozer is the 86 SDL  It started in the summer of 04 when it was really=
 hot

I have never de-crusted mine.  I believe leaving a crust around the edges=20
keeps any further crust from forming.  Never tested the theory though.  I=20
thought the catalyst reactivated when it was extremely hot though, not in=20
the winter.  Heat would be in line with the little chemistry I learned.

Chris, maybe you are just too anal retentive.  Chill, and use the mirror,=20
don't look at the edges!

If you do figger it out, let us know.  I am not sure I want to spring for a=
=20
new mirror if that is the cure.  I just gave up on trying to make 20 year=20
old cars look like now a long time ago.

At 08:13 AM 1/6/2006, you wrote:
>I'm the subject line describes this common problem adequately. Every=20
>winter, I scrape it off (too gooey in the summer).
>
>   QUESTION: Would a new mirror start doing the same oozing right away=20
> or  would it take, oh, tne years before it started oozing? That would be =
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>
>   Chris
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] glue oozing mirror

[V Layton]

Don't know, weird symptom, isn't it?

Vince



From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [MBZ] glue oozing mirror
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 06:13:03 -0800 (PST)

I'm the subject line describes this common problem adequately. Every 
winter, I scrape it off (too gooey in the summer).


  QUESTION: Would a new mirror start doing the same oozing right away or  
would it take, oh, tne years before it started oozing? That would be  nice.


  Chris



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-1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen"
-1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf"
-1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
-1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"

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[MBZ] glue oozing mirror

[Christopher McCann]

I'm the subject line describes this common problem adequately. Every winter, I 
scrape it off (too gooey in the summer).
  
  QUESTION: Would a new mirror start doing the same oozing right away or  would 
it take, oh, tne years before it started oozing? That would be  nice.
  
  Chris 
  


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-1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf" 
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-1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"

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NO.

"Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  So this is not that momementum 
or whatever they used to send out that 
was just a advertisment for rolexes and other high dollar items?

V Layton wrote:

> I agree.  I get mine the same way, too.  I'm about to get my third one, 
> the first I got was issue #10- that feautred the very last W123 280CE 
> ever made- so obviously I was pretty pleased.  I would like to get the 
> whole back collection, it think it's $49, maybe $55 dollars.  It was 
> started in 2002, I'm guessing no matter what it will have historical 
> significance one day.  They sell for 6 euros, and since the buck is weak 
> to it, $22 is pretty good.  Besides, imagine what a limited specialty 
> market it caters to, I'm sure it's not cheap to produce a mag of that 
> caliber.  If you like to read about some of the pinacles of historic MB 
> preservation, I highly recommend it.
> 
> Vince
> 
> 
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> 
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> and shows
> 
> 
>> From: Sunil Hari 
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So this is not that momementum or whatever they used to send out that 
was just a advertisment for rolexes and other high dollar items?

V Layton wrote:

> I agree.  I get mine the same way, too.  I'm about to get my third one, 
> the first I got was issue #10- that feautred the very last W123 280CE 
> ever made- so obviously I was pretty pleased.  I would like to get the 
> whole back collection, it think it's $49, maybe $55 dollars.  It was 
> started in 2002, I'm guessing no matter what it will have historical 
> significance one day.  They sell for 6 euros, and since the buck is weak 
> to it, $22 is pretty good.  Besides, imagine what a limited specialty 
> market it caters to, I'm sure it's not cheap to produce a mag of that 
> caliber.  If you like to read about some of the pinacles of historic MB 
> preservation, I highly recommend it.
> 
> Vince
> 
> 
> Club 123D President
> 
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> and shows
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset

[Dave Wakin]

Jim,

I wonder if you would have been ok the second time had the gasket been 
replaced. Another thought I had was that you were using straight water 
instead of 50/50 mix for coolant. Not sure if that would make a difference 
though.


I'm betting you have the head removal/replacement down to a science and can 
probably do it in half or less time then the first attempt.


I can tear an Arctic Cat 2 stroke motor down, rebuild, and put back together 
in about an hour or so now that I have done it a few times.


Glad to hear you are making progressguessing your wife is as well.

Dave W


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Cool. Was this the original gasket, or the new one you bought for
assembly?


The 'new' one.  (Not so new anymore, going on the third time.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 123 Trunk Leak

[l02turner]

you wrote:<<.. I have a water leak inside the trunk wall [ behind the

seat],>>


My '78 240D leaks as well.  I've searched and searched but cannot find the 
source of the leak.  The sunroof drains don't drain thru the trunk - they 
drain to the area behind the rain gutters.   I finally gave up (after years) 
trying to find the source and dealt with the leak where it entered the 
trunk.  In my case, the water was entering thru a hole in the bottom of the 
hat rack - to the left (drivers side) of the medicene box.  I ended up 
attaching a funnel to the underside of the hatrack where it was dripping and 
ran a hose from the funnel to the drain in the trunk floor.


It may not be an elegant solution, but I have a dry trunk now - finally. 
It's nice to be able to put stuff in the trunk without worrying about it 
getting wet.


Good luck --

Sincerely,
Larry T (78 240D)

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I have a 1983 240D...I replaced the rear window seal & my trunk
seal is
not leaking.. I have a water leak inside the trunk wall [ behind the
seat],
when it rains heavy..Any suggestions  ?


Sounds like your new window seal didn't.  (Assuming the water's running
down the leading edge of the trunk.)  Did you check the channel for
rust, etc. before reinstalling?

Taillights often leak, but that's a low-point puddle problem, maybe
not what you've got going on.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz Classic Magazine

[Sunil Hari]

I have the last 5 issues - covers were a 300SL, a 170S/220S/280SEL 3.5/300SL
(R107), a 190SL, a 280CE, and a 6.9/560SEL/S320 cover.  All are excellent.
Back issues are expensive, but obtainable.

On 1/6/06, V Layton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Actually I read in issue #10 that it was unusual to have the first cars,
> as
> they do with the 280CE, as they were usually crash tested, but the 1st
> 280CE
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>
> Vince
>
>
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> > >I agree.  I get mine the same way, too.  I'm about to get my third one,
> >the
> > > first I got was issue #10- that feautred the very last W123 280CE ever
> > > made-
> > > so obviously I was pretty pleased.  I would like to get the whole back
> > > collection, it think it's $49, maybe $55 dollars.  It was started in
> >2002,
> > > I'm guessing no matter what it will have historical significance one
> >day.
> > > They sell for 6 euros, and since the buck is weak to it, $22 is pretty
> > > good.
> > >  Besides, imagine what a limited specialty market it caters to, I'm
> sure
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> > > about
> > > some of the pinacles of historic MB preservation, I highly recommend
> it.
> > >
> > > Vince
> > >
> > >
> > > Club 123D President
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Carfaxes?

[James Zavesky]

Interesting to see what the motor and transmission number come back to which
VIN. The firewall and main dash/drivers VIN should match, not matching is a
bad thing. Could be that the car was tagged.

get an attorney

the goal is not to lose your monetary investment.

Park the car inside a locked garage AND remove the battery and a tire. This
is so the guys that did this originally won't come and get the car and
destroy the evidence leaving you to collect the insurance from your carrier.

James Zavesky







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> Teenage son has 84 BMW 318i.  Stopped because tabs expired, policeman
noticed VIN didn't match plates, threatened impoundment.  Son told to park
car.  I visited said car, noticed 2 different VINs, one on dash, another on
doorpost (which matched plates)!   New tabs successfully obtained, but would
a carfax reveal if the car a front clip or what?
>
>   Dash VIN: WBAAK8406E8685568
>   Post VIN: WBAAK7402E8715045
>
>
> Bruce
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Re: [MBZ] Wood Refinish Guy

[Aaron Lam]

http://www.heritagewoodworks.com/

-Aaron

[MBZ] Wood Refinish Guy

[John Peterson]

Does anyone remember the contact info for the wood refinish guy that mbz.org 
used to recommend?  I'm looking for him.


John Peterson
1991 300D 2.5 77k 

Re: [MBZ] Spare 115 relays?

[Jim Cathey]

I am a lazy SOB, and have spent the past two days chasing a trunk leak
in the driving rain.  For the life of me, i have no idea where the
water is getting in.  About to park my behind in the trunk with a light
and see where it is getting in.  New tail lights with gaskets and newer
trunk seal.  Have not been able to find if the rear window is leaking.


Probably that, or the fuel grommet.  My understanding of leak
faults is #1 taillights, #2 window.  The rest lost in the noise.
But I could have those first two backwards!


A huge genset is not the same as a silly relay


Parts is parts, it's all just a matter of scale.  And the will
to not take any backtalk from machinery, neither big nor small.
Sometimes, of course, it has the last word anyway.


Not sure why some cars got the red dot and some had the other.  May be
an AC thing.  now that I think on it, the dots are found in the cars
with air at PnP, and found the larger ones on non AC.  Also something
with the seat belt lamp being in the place the red dot lives.


Riddle me this:  the Frankenheap has no AC, and has a red dot.
The Ebola Fishtank has AC, and has a red dot.   I think it's just
age-related.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz Classic Magazine

[V Layton]

Actually I read in issue #10 that it was unusual to have the first cars, as 
they do with the 280CE, as they were usually crash tested, but the 1st 280CE 
survived and surfaced not that long ago, neat story behind it


Vince



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That is the 280CE in the Mercedes Classic Centre at Fellbach?
Apparently they keep the first and last example of every model.
There are some nice and historic machines there.
https://www.cms.daimlerchrysler.com/emb_classic/0,,0-195-78866-1-200655-1-0-0-0-0-0-3490-78641-0-0-0-0-0-0-0,00.html

Hendrik

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz Classic Magazine


>I agree.  I get mine the same way, too.  I'm about to get my third one, 
the

> first I got was issue #10- that feautred the very last W123 280CE ever
> made-
> so obviously I was pretty pleased.  I would like to get the whole back
> collection, it think it's $49, maybe $55 dollars.  It was started in 
2002,
> I'm guessing no matter what it will have historical significance one 
day.

> They sell for 6 euros, and since the buck is weak to it, $22 is pretty
> good.
>  Besides, imagine what a limited specialty market it caters to, I'm sure
> it's not cheap to produce a mag of that caliber.  If you like to read
> about
> some of the pinacles of historic MB preservation, I highly recommend it.
>
> Vince
>
>
> Club 123D President
>
> www.club123d.org  sponsor of USA's only W123 exclusive driving events 
and

> shows
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Trunk Leak

[David Brodbeck]

Jim Cathey wrote:

I was referring to the entire freekin' thing being rusted out.



Oh, the _really_ big drain hole.  The grommet for those says
"Bud" on it and has a waffle pattern.
  


Heh!  I've made *way* too many patches like that.  I used to patch up 
gaps in the engine tinware on my VW with RTV and bits of beer cans.  On 
my Volvo, I patched rust holes with galvanized sheet metal from Home 
Depot, pop rivets, and gray Krylon primer.  Laugh all you want, but it 
kept the water out.

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz Classic Magazine

[Hendrik Riessen]

That is the 280CE in the Mercedes Classic Centre at Fellbach?
Apparently they keep the first and last example of every model.
There are some nice and historic machines there.
https://www.cms.daimlerchrysler.com/emb_classic/0,,0-195-78866-1-200655-1-0-0-0-0-0-3490-78641-0-0-0-0-0-0-0,00.html

Hendrik

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I agree.  I get mine the same way, too.  I'm about to get my third one, the
first I got was issue #10- that feautred the very last W123 280CE ever 
made-

so obviously I was pretty pleased.  I would like to get the whole back
collection, it think it's $49, maybe $55 dollars.  It was started in 2002,
I'm guessing no matter what it will have historical significance one day.
They sell for 6 euros, and since the buck is weak to it, $22 is pretty 
good.

 Besides, imagine what a limited specialty market it caters to, I'm sure
it's not cheap to produce a mag of that caliber.  If you like to read 
about

some of the pinacles of historic MB preservation, I highly recommend it.

Vince


Club 123D President

www.club123d.org  sponsor of USA's only W123 exclusive driving events and
shows

Re: [MBZ] Will these wheels fit a 124?

[Aaron Lam]

Alex,

Many new MBs come with staggered (wider in the rear) wheels from the
factory. For those SLK wheels, the fronts will be a perfect fit but
the rears will probably rub if you have weight in the back seat or
trunk. A non 500E 124 can handle an 8" rear wheel just fine, but the
offset should be ET37 ideally.

-Aaron
1987 300D
1987 300TD

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>
> And do SLKs really come with different size rims on the front and back
> like the seller implies?  I never heard of any Mercedes like that from
> the factory.  Seems uncharacteristically impractical.
>
> Alex Chamberlain
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Re: [MBZ] Sweet little French film

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 03:49:38 + "V Layton"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You all may have seen this ages ago, so sorry if this is redundant, but
> I  "found" it recently and think it's totally bitchin'
> 
> It's a Ferrari-cam screaming through Paris - big file - advise avoiding
> if  you are still on dial-up
> 
> http://www.glumbert.com/media/rendezvous.html

Actually, we "found" it in December. Yes it's a nice movie.



Craig

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz Classic Magazine

[V Layton]

I agree.  I get mine the same way, too.  I'm about to get my third one, the 
first I got was issue #10- that feautred the very last W123 280CE ever made- 
so obviously I was pretty pleased.  I would like to get the whole back 
collection, it think it's $49, maybe $55 dollars.  It was started in 2002, 
I'm guessing no matter what it will have historical significance one day.  
They sell for 6 euros, and since the buck is weak to it, $22 is pretty good. 
 Besides, imagine what a limited specialty market it caters to, I'm sure 
it's not cheap to produce a mag of that caliber.  If you like to read about 
some of the pinacles of historic MB preservation, I highly recommend it.


Vince


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I subscribe, but I subscribe through MB USA and get it for $22/year.
1-800-FOR-MERCEDES, select option 4, then option 2, then subscribe by
talking to a nice lady.  4 issues per year, and they're spectacular.

On 1/5/06, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on pages 92-93 of the 2004 Classic Collection  catalog, there is an
> advertisement for the above mentioned magazine.  two editions - German 
or

> English. Cost is 22 Euro PLUS postage/year  (quite high, IMO).
>
>   Does anyone subscribe? Has anyone subscribed in the past or have any
> info on it's worth? No website, but there is an e-mail:
>
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>   Thanks!
>
>   FYI, mag in the ad has a 220D heckflosse on the cover - cool.
>
>
>
> Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
> -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose"
> -1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen"
> -1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf"
> -1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
> -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
> -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"
>
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[MBZ] Will these wheels fit a 124?

[Alex Chamberlain]

http://tinyurl.com/dpl44

And do SLKs really come with different size rims on the front and back
like the seller implies?  I never heard of any Mercedes like that from
the factory.  Seems uncharacteristically impractical.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

Re: [MBZ] this is ugly, but it gets 31mpg

[andrew strasfogel]

Seller is  obviously a LIAR.  The car really gets 39 mpg!

On 1/5/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
>   84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Trunk Leak

[andrew strasfogel]

Hey Rusty or Kleb - How much for a 2985 300CD 123 coupe rear windshield seal?

On 1/5/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was referring to the entire freekin' thing being rusted out.
>
> Oh, the _really_ big drain hole.  The grommet for those says
> "Bud" on it and has a waffle pattern.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz Classic Magazine

[andrew strasfogel]

It used to be free!  Bastids!!

On 1/5/06, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks, Sunil. Think I'll give it a try.
>
>   Chris
>
> Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I subscribe, but I subscribe
> through MB USA and get it for $22/year.
> 1-800-FOR-MERCEDES, select option 4, then option 2, then subscribe by
> talking to a nice lady.  4 issues per year, and they're spectacular.
>
> On 1/5/06, Christopher McCann  wrote:
> >
> > on pages 92-93 of the 2004 Classic Collection  catalog, there is an
> > advertisement for the above mentioned magazine.  two editions - German or
> > English. Cost is 22 Euro PLUS postage/year  (quite high, IMO).
> >
> >   Does anyone subscribe? Has anyone subscribed in the past or have any
> > info on it's worth? No website, but there is an e-mail:
> >
> >   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >   Thanks!
> >
> >   FYI, mag in the ad has a 220D heckflosse on the cover - cool.
> >
> >
> >
> > Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
> > -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose"
> > -1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen"
> > -1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf"
> > -1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
> > -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
> > -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"
> >
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> -1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf"
> -1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
> -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
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Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question

[redghost]

I would LOVE a wood speaker cover.  Not good at wood shop, so would 
need to commission the part.  I have a bunch of the hard plastic 
grilles, and picked this up hoping I could make it better.


On Thursday, January 5, 2006, at 07:44 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


As for the speaker cover, I changed to the wood trim dash and it was
missing a cover.  I found one at PnP, but it is pretty weather worn 
and

needs to have the cover heated and re-attached.  Anybody have a good
idea how to make that happen?  Thought a slow oven may do, but 
probably

would just melt it all


That's a tough one.  The Frankenheap's grille is hard black plastic,
and is just fine.  But the usual one I see, and the one that is
in the Ebola Fishtank, is that glued-on vinyl/foam over metal thing.
I never have seen a good one of those.

One other option would be to make a nice wooden one.  That would
be somewhat labor-intensive.

Temperature control on your oven would be critical.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Spare 115 relays?

[redghost]

I am a lazy SOB, and have spent the past two days chasing a trunk leak 
in the driving rain.  For the life of me, i have no idea where the 
water is getting in.  About to park my behind in the trunk with a light 
and see where it is getting in.  New tail lights with gaskets and newer 
trunk seal.  Have not been able to find if the rear window is leaking.


A huge genset is not the same as a silly relay

And the thing is not an old mac that works well with the LD for movie 
copies, it is a part, and a non functioning part at that.


Not sure why some cars got the red dot and some had the other.  May be 
an AC thing.  now that I think on it, the dots are found in the cars 
with air at PnP, and found the larger ones on non AC.  Also something 
with the seat belt lamp being in the place the red dot lives.


going to have to figure that one out.

On Thursday, January 5, 2006, at 07:38 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


Could be that the console was upgraded?  I have not found the red dot
in cars older than 74, but some of the 73s have the larger flasher at


You mean _newer_ than 74?  Ours are both dotties, and are nominally
MY '71.

PnP.  I guess I could try more resolder, but that was a pain.  May 
just


Surely can't be as hard as repeated head removal!  Persevere.
I try to think of it as training.


spring for a used relay and play with the old one at my leisure


That also works.

-- Jim


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1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

[MBZ] this is a first

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

And this is over the auction that the dude had the cheap SDL I was 
wanting to get in indiana.  Was offered 2nd chance offer but was too 
slow in taking  him up on it.  Damn


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[MBZ] stupid motor mounts

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Rode in the SDL for the first time today in a while.  Sounds like its 
got a bad motor mount.  I just replaced those stupid things a year or so 
ago.

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[MBZ] Sweet little French film

[V Layton]

You all may have seen this ages ago, so sorry if this is redundant, but I 
"found" it recently and think it's totally bitchin'


It's a Ferrari-cam screaming through Paris - big file - advise avoiding if 
you are still on dial-up


http://www.glumbert.com/media/rendezvous.html

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Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question

[Jim Cathey]

As for the speaker cover, I changed to the wood trim dash and it was
missing a cover.  I found one at PnP, but it is pretty weather worn and
needs to have the cover heated and re-attached.  Anybody have a good
idea how to make that happen?  Thought a slow oven may do, but probably
would just melt it all


That's a tough one.  The Frankenheap's grille is hard black plastic,
and is just fine.  But the usual one I see, and the one that is
in the Ebola Fishtank, is that glued-on vinyl/foam over metal thing.
I never have seen a good one of those.

One other option would be to make a nice wooden one.  That would
be somewhat labor-intensive.

Temperature control on your oven would be critical.

-- Jim

[MBZ] this is ugly, but it gets 31mpg

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
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http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] Spare 115 relays?

[Jim Cathey]

Could be that the console was upgraded?  I have not found the red dot
in cars older than 74, but some of the 73s have the larger flasher at


You mean _newer_ than 74?  Ours are both dotties, and are nominally
MY '71.


PnP.  I guess I could try more resolder, but that was a pain.  May just


Surely can't be as hard as repeated head removal!  Persevere.
I try to think of it as training.


spring for a used relay and play with the old one at my leisure


That also works.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Spare 115 relays?

[redghost]

Could be that the console was upgraded?  I have not found the red dot 
in cars older than 74, but some of the 73s have the larger flasher at 
PnP.  I guess I could try more resolder, but that was a pain.  May just 
spring for a used relay and play with the old one at my leisure


On Thursday, January 5, 2006, at 02:58 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


I have the candy bar AND the blinker relay.  Pulled the blinker
yesterday and resoldered.  it worked for maybe 12 blinks then died.
Cycled the candy bar 25 times and no return to blink.  Buzzing in the
blink relay.


Wash, rinse, repeat.  (Often I have to repeat such repairs a
time or two before they 'take').

Weird that you have two blinkers.  I'd always thought your car
was of the red-dot era.

-- Jim


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1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question

[redghost]

Not sure if it is factory or not, but Rusty lists a pre-filter, and I 
have one on Gump.  she came to me that way.


As for the speaker cover, I changed to the wood trim dash and it was 
missing a cover.  I found one at PnP, but it is pretty weather worn and 
needs to have the cover heated and re-attached.  Anybody have a good 
idea how to make that happen?  Thought a slow oven may do, but probably 
would just melt it all


On Thursday, January 5, 2006, at 04:32 PM, R A Bennell wrote:



This is a 115 so if it is like the 240 it may not have had the 
prefilter but

I could certainly add one somewhere.




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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] rare ones - I want these

[TimothyPilgrim]

Wow. TLS wagon?

http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/mbtls.html

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

Re: [MBZ] OM606.962 question

[dave walton]

FYI - my wife's 99 E300 headrest motor had a bad solder joint where
the PCB connects to the motor terminals. Wiggling the motor assembly
when activating it disclosed the problem.

Yes, it is a rocket. Hers will accelerate straight to 110mph. It would
go faster, but I won't. Enjoy...

-Dave Walton
94 S350, 99 E300

On 1/5/06, John W. Reames III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, its been a heck of a while. First, I'll give a short update...
> I /had/ a 1984 300sd (color: hellenfeinbein(sp?)) until the weekend before
> thanksgiving. To shorten the story, I was rear-ended hard enough that the
> sunroof popped open (1/2"), the left side of the trunk pan tore loose from
> the quarter panel on the side, and the paint at the rear of the back doors
> chipped on the body. (this happened a week or two after putting a new
> alternator/harness/pulley) on it
>
> Anyhow I figured it was toast so Laura and I went shopping... we picked up
> a 1999 E300Td (wooT! can you say "rocket"?), 101kmi, a few issues (driver
> headrest didn't work (cracked solder joint) and druken climate LCD)... we
> paid $18.5k for it.
>
> Anyhow, I drive ~190-195mi/day... about 4kmi later I noticed the smell of
> heated fuel... The top of the IP is wet, and it uses the same set of
> O-rings and seals as the other OM60x engines (actually bosch calls for the
> same exact part number, at least between the om606.91x, om606.96x, and the
> om603.96x's), so I am guessing it is the same problem as the others... the
> pump is wet around the delivery valves, not the union nuts on the pipes.
>
> I have in front of me (thanks to our sponsor and visa :) the proper
> socket, the clips and shims, etc for the lines, and the proper bosch
> o-rings and seals (procured from the local bosch distributor-I bought a
> dozen o-rings and 8 seals, so I can pinch o-rings and drop seals in the
> dirt to my heart's content).
>
> I'll be borrowing a couple of torque wrenches from my dad this weekend
> (20-240in-lbs and 10-100ft-lbs), and am aware of the 30-30-30+5 torque
> sequence (I have the instructions fron WIS on how to do the job on a
> 606.91x but it did not have for the 606.96x's!!) I was wondering if anyone
> had done this job, and how nasty it was.. the stealership quoted me a
> minimum of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/hr... I've had occasion to replace seals in the 
> 617's
> and its a cakewalk. I understand the newer pumps are more like jewelry, so
> I was wondering about caveats.
>
> BTW when it was all said and done, insurance split the difference between
> NADA classic average and NADA classic high retail, then added tax and
> tags, etc... the payout was $8249.75, since the damages exceeded $6k, as
> at least one new quarter would be involved, as would a new rear pan, etc.)
>
> I'm pretty happy all the way around, especially with the rocketship (it
> can and WILL break loose from the pavement if you stomp on it at a light.
> You get used to the drive-by-wire once you understand a few things about
> it, too), but i still pine for the klatta of the 617's.
>
> Speaking of 617's, I had an interesting failure mode on Laura's 300D: the
> glow plug relay failed because it was half-full of water. I opened it up
> and it literally had a cup of water in it, which must have leaked past the
> o-ring that sealed it as the ring was split!
>
> Oh yeah, i have some 126 stuff up for sale/grabs: (this is for a 1984
> 300sd, the later half of the year (no tach amp on it)
>
> I have:
> -1 good used (spare) tach (should be the same as a 300sdl)
> -two new rear rotors, still in the brown paper wrappping/slightly worn box
> -new set of rear pads
> -a new (in box) master cylinder
> -rear spring pads
> -front sway bar bushings. (I redid the suspension, and these were going to
> bee too nasty to do, so i figured I would wait until they got bad)
> -a set or two of wiper refills
>
> All of the above parts are likely specific to to the 126. I'll entertain
> offers. For the rotors, I'd prefer local to Baltimore, since shipping on
> them would not be cheap (the master cylinder might be costly to ship too)
>
> As for the E300TD, I cant wait to take a trip out to grantsville, MD and
> get it on some of those long upgrades on I-70 in western MD to see what It
> will do. I'm afraid to find out on anything with less slope. It will loaf
> at 85-90mph, and the way it winds up, I have no doubt whatsoever that it
> would wind up the the limit of the H-rated tires, but I don't want to find
> out if it will, or how much it would cost me to try! (isn't >100mph==jail
> time in MD and VA?)
>
> -j.
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] rare ones - I want these

[TimothyPilgrim]

I'll take one of these:

http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/mbclsstretch.html

And one of what's climbing out of hte back seat.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

Re: [MBZ] OT: Carfaxes?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

2 into one special?

B Dike wrote:


Teenage son has 84 BMW 318i.  Stopped because tabs expired, policeman noticed 
VIN didn't match plates, threatened impoundment.  Son told to park car.  I 
visited said car, noticed 2 different VINs, one on dash, another on doorpost 
(which matched plates)!   New tabs successfully obtained, but would a carfax 
reveal if the car a front clip or what?
   
  Dash VIN: WBAAK8406E8685568


Vehicle Snapshot
Vehicle 1984 BMW 3-Series 318i
VIN WBAAK8406E8685568
Body Style 2 Door Sedan
Country of Manufacture Germany


Vehicle History Checklist
Vehicle Description WBAAK8406E8685568
Title Check No records found
Problem Check No records found
Odometer Check No records found
Vehicle Information Records found
Full History Records found

 Title Check
Your vehicle checks out!

Abandoned No Abandoned Records Found
Damaged No Damaged Records Found
Fire Damage No Fire Damage Records Found
Grey Market No Grey Market Records Found
Hail Damage No Hail Damage Records Found
Insurance Loss No Insurance Loss Records Found
Junk No Junk Records Found
Rebuilt/Rebuildable No Rebuilt/Rebuildable Records Found
Salvage No Salvage Records Found


 Problem Check
Your vehicle checks out!

NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle No NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle Records Found
Fire Damage Incident No Fire Damage Incident Records Found
Frame Damage No Frame Damage Records Found
Major Damage No Major Damage Records Found
Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found
Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found
Odometer Problem No Odometer Problem Records Found
Salvage Auction No Salvage Auction Records Found
Water Damage No Water Damage Records Found


 Vehicle Information
Problems Found!

Accident Data No Accident Data Records Found
Corrected Title No Corrected Title Records Found
Driver Education No Driver Education Records Found
Duplicate Title No Duplicate Title Records Found
Emission/Safety Inspection Emission/Safety Inspection Records Found
Livery Use No Livery Use Records Found
Government Use No Government Use Records Found
Police Use No Police Use Records Found
Rental/Fleet No Rental/Fleet Records Found
Repossessed No Repossessed Records Found
Taxi Use No Taxi Use Records Found
Theft No Theft Records Found


 Vehicle History Records
We have searched the Experian Automotive National Vehicle Database of 
insurance, DMV, and auto auction information and found the following 15 
records for this 1984 BMW 3-SERIES 318I. Note the highlighted rows for 
potential issues that could affect the value of this vehicle.


Date Location Mileage Description
1997-09-04 CA 138629 passed emission inspection
1999-02-04 novato, CA 156619 passed emission inspection
2000-12-26 novato, CA 179791 emission inspection
2000-12-28 CA  passed emission inspection
2001-09-04 CA 181140 emission inspection
2001-09-04 CA 181143 emission inspection
2002-07-29 seattle, WA  title
2002-07-29 seattle, WA  title
2002-07-29 seattle, WA  registration event/renewal
2002-07-29 seattle, WA  excluded/exempt
2005-05-12 issaquah, WA  registration event/renewal
2005-05-12 spokane, WA 196484 passed emission inspection
2005-06-08 issaquah, WA  title
2005-06-08 issaquah, WA  excluded/exempt
2005-10-26 issaquah, WA  registration event/renewal


Glossary of Descriptions Found for This Vehicle (full glossary)
Description Full Definition

Passed Emission Inspection Vehicle passed the state emission inspection.
Emission Inspection Emission inspection data is unknown.
Title Vehicle had title registration event reported by state DMV.
Renewal Vehicle had registration renewal event reported by state DMV.
Excluded/Exempt Vehicle is generally exempt from normal/mandatory 
odometer law for the following reasons:

1.Vehicle model year is 10 years or older.
2.Gross weight of vehicle over 16000 lbs.
3.Vehicle is not self-propelled.
4.Titled to the manufacturer.



  Post VIN: WBAAK7402E8715045


Vehicle Snapshot
Vehicle 1984 BMW 3-Series 318i
VIN WBAAK7402E8715045
Body Style 2 Door Sedan
Country of Manufacture Germany


Vehicle History Checklist
Vehicle Description WBAAK7402E8715045
Title Check Records found
Problem Check No records found
Odometer Check No records found
Vehicle Information No records found
Full History Records found

 Title Check
Problems Found!

Abandoned No Abandoned Records Found
Damaged No Damaged Records Found
Fire Damage No Fire Damage Records Found
Grey Market No Grey Market Records Found
Hail Damage No Hail Damage Records Found
Insurance Loss Insurance Loss Records Found
Junk No Junk Records Found
Rebuilt/Rebuildable No Rebuilt/Rebuildable Records Found
Salvage No Salvage Records Found


 Problem Check
Your vehicle checks out!

NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle No NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle Records Found
Fire Damage Incident No Fire Damage Incident Records Found
Frame Damage No Frame Damage Records Found
Major Damage No Major Damage Records Found
Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found
Manufactu

Re: [MBZ] rare ones - I want these

[OK Don]

Notice that they are a car design firm 

On 1/5/06, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sunil Hari wrote:
> >
> > so when they say "photoshop," do they mean that this is a shop of photos, or
> > that these are all images created in Adobe Photoshop?
>
> Unfortunately, it says this at the bottom of the index page:
>
> Photochopped Cars, made with Adobe Photoshop and Corel Photopaint. No online 
> gambling
> here, keine Gewinnspiele. Alles frei, umsonst.
>
> http://www.cwwcardesign.com/index.html
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Carfaxes?

[Lee Levitt]

 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of B Dike
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 8:48 PM
> To: Mercedes mailing list
> Subject: [MBZ] OT: Carfaxes?
> 
> Teenage son has 84 BMW 318i.  Stopped because tabs expired, 
> policeman noticed VIN didn't match plates, threatened 
> impoundment.  Son told to park car.  I visited said car, 
> noticed 2 different VINs, one on dash, another on doorpost 
> (which matched plates)!   New tabs successfully obtained, but 
> would a carfax reveal if the car a front clip or what?
>
>   Dash VIN: WBAAK8406E8685568

'84 318i with no problems, recently passed inspection in Washington with
19XK miles on it...

New owner in July 2002.

>   Post VIN: WBAAK7402E8715045

'84 318i registered May 2002 with new owner, shortly thereafter reported as
junk title issued/dismantled.

...just a couple of months before you bought the car, right?

Sounds like you bought two cars in one in July 2002. If the seller (used car
dealer, right?) didn't disclose this, you've got a lawsuit to file. Material
misrepresentation.

I'd park that puppy (unsafe, blah blah) and go see an attorney...

Lee
> 
> 

Re: [MBZ] Preventive Maintenance Question

[Lee Levitt]

 
It's *preventive* maintenance.

Or is it preventive maintetanance.

Inquiring minds wan't tu now.

:)

Lee

Re: [MBZ] 123 Trunk Leak

[Jim Cathey]

I was referring to the entire freekin' thing being rusted out.


Oh, the _really_ big drain hole.  The grommet for those says
"Bud" on it and has a waffle pattern.

-- Jim

[MBZ] OT: Carfaxes?

[B Dike]

Teenage son has 84 BMW 318i.  Stopped because tabs expired, policeman noticed 
VIN didn't match plates, threatened impoundment.  Son told to park car.  I 
visited said car, noticed 2 different VINs, one on dash, another on doorpost 
(which matched plates)!   New tabs successfully obtained, but would a carfax 
reveal if the car a front clip or what?
   
  Dash VIN: WBAAK8406E8685568
  Post VIN: WBAAK7402E8715045


Bruce
82 300CD 334kmi 'His'
85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers'
75 240D 202kmi 'Donner'
77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen'

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Sunil Hari wrote:
> 
> so when they say "photoshop," do they mean that this is a shop of photos, or
> that these are all images created in Adobe Photoshop? 

Unfortunately, it says this at the bottom of the index page:

Photochopped Cars, made with Adobe Photoshop and Corel Photopaint. No online 
gambling
here, keine Gewinnspiele. Alles frei, umsonst.

http://www.cwwcardesign.com/index.html

Re: [MBZ] PM ???

[Christopher McCann]

I know what milspec means. My AR-15 is milspec :-)
  
  Chris
  
  P.S. There is a store in KC that sells out of tolerance aircraft 
stuff...prolly should check it out...

LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  That is why you enlist in the military, so 
you can get milspec (ask someone
who has worn a uniform what that means) stuff for free.  Don't know where my
'78 Pinto is now, but the owner is driving around with after-market stuff
held down by milspec aircraft-quality nuts/bolts, and sports a very
expensive aircraft clock (went out of tolerances for aircraft use, which
means it loses a second every few centuries).

On 1/6/06, Christopher McCann  wrote:
>
> so do the clamps around the tranny fluid lines,  but after 20 years, they
> wear out...then metal on metal till you got an  ATF gusher. I imagine you
> could also replace the line clamps with new  ones...?
>
>   Chris
>
> LT Don  wrote:  You haven't spent much time around
> airplanes, have you?
>
> EACH AND EVERY metal clamp on any airplane on which I have worked (and
> that
> is quite a few) that goes around a wire bundle has a 1/4" rubber gasket as
> an integral part of the assembly.
>
> On 1/5/06, Donald Snook  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Bravo! That is a great idea! Maybe everybody else knew to do this, But I
> > didn't. I love great solutions like this. It makes sense, even I can do
> > it and it is simple.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Well, its been a heck of a while. First, I'll give a short update...
I /had/ a 1984 300sd (color: hellenfeinbein(sp?)) until the weekend before 
thanksgiving. To shorten the story, I was rear-ended hard enough tha

Re: [MBZ] rare ones - I want these

[OK Don]

Neat - looking elsewhere on their site, I found:

"The direction in which the engineers at Mercedes-Benz are taking
compression ignition engines is being shown in Geneva by the two
diesel-powered roadsters that boast record performance figures. A new
V8 engine generates 231 kW/315 hp in the Vision SL 400 CDI and
provides the eight-cylinder's crankshaft with an outstanding torque of
730 Nm. The SLK 320 CDI tri-turbo, meanwhile, can generate an
impressive 210 kW/286 hp and 630 Nm of torque from three litres of
displacement (70.3 kW and 211 Nm per litre of displacement)."

at - http://www.cwwcardesign.com/mercedes_slk320_cdi.html

Wonder if any these will ever make it to this side of the pond?

On 1/5/06, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks to for Hendrik posting the mbhistoric link.
>

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'90 300D 243K, '87 300SDL 290K,  '81 240D 173K,  '78 450SLC 67K, '97
Ply Grand Voyager 78K

Re: [MBZ] USC or UT?

[Sunil Hari]

I was rooting hard for Texas, just because they beat Ohio State by a nose
earlier this year.  I wanted them to prove that OSU lost to the best team in
the country, and they did.  Hook 'em Horns!

On 1/5/06, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am kinda bummed out that college football is over, except for some
> "draft
> me high in the NFL" games.
>
> On 1/6/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like Norman - we keep track of home games days and times so we
> > know not to wonder out 
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Got me, kiddo. When I went to UT, I wasn't a football fan. It was a
> pain
> > > during football season to try to go into the lab and work on home-game
> > > Saturdays. The parking was horrendous. A friend said he couldn't even
> > find
> > > an illegal parking place within 7 blocks of the campus.
> > >
> > >
> > > Craig
> >
> >
> > --
> > OK Don, KD5NRO
> > Norman, OK
> > '90 300D 243K, '87 300SDL 290K,  '81 240D 173K,  '78 450SLC 67K, '97
> > Ply Grand Voyager 78K
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Re: [MBZ] rare ones - I want these

[Sunil Hari]

so when they say "photoshop," do they mean that this is a shop of photos, or
that these are all images created in Adobe Photoshop?  B/c that minivan
looked pretty sweet ...

On 1/5/06, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks to for Hendrik posting the mbhistoric link.
>
> All three of the 201s appeal to me, especially the 190TE 2.3-16 and 190TD
> 2.5.
> http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/190te16v.html
>
> Two bad the 190CE was neither 16v nor diesel.
> That S-class van was something else.
>
> Let's not forget the 6.3 wagon.
>
> http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/300set63.html
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Re: [MBZ] Aggies

[LT Don]

None -- they have no teeth?

On 1/6/06, wilton strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> How many Aggies does it take to eat 'possum?
>
> Wilton
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[MBZ] Aggies

[wilton strickland]

How many Aggies does it take to eat 'possum?

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] 123 Trunk Leak

[LT Don]

JIm --

I was referring to the entire freekin' thing being rusted out.

Don


On 1/6/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Really bid drain hole under the liner on the driver's side -- but that
> > is
> > how I purchased the car.
>
> Should be a big grommet in that hole, with three little holes in it.
> Probably irrelevant if it's raining from above, though.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Trunk Leak

[Jim Cathey]

Really bid drain hole under the liner on the driver's side -- but that 
is

how I purchased the car.


Should be a big grommet in that hole, with three little holes in it.
Probably irrelevant if it's raining from above, though.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] PM ???

[LT Don]

That is why you enlist in the military, so you can get milspec (ask someone
who has worn a uniform what that means) stuff for free.  Don't know where my
'78 Pinto is now, but the owner is driving around with after-market stuff
held down by milspec aircraft-quality nuts/bolts, and sports a very
expensive aircraft clock (went out of tolerances for aircraft use, which
means it loses a second every few centuries).

On 1/6/06, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> so do the clamps around the tranny fluid lines,  but after 20 years, they
> wear out...then metal on metal till you got an  ATF gusher. I imagine you
> could also replace the line clamps with new  ones...?
>
>   Chris
>
> LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  You haven't spent much time around
> airplanes, have you?
>
> EACH AND EVERY metal clamp on any airplane on which I have worked (and
> that
> is quite a few) that goes around a wire bundle has a 1/4" rubber gasket as
> an integral part of the assembly.
>
> On 1/5/06, Donald Snook  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Bravo! That is a great idea! Maybe everybody else knew to do this, But I
> > didn't. I love great solutions like this. It makes sense, even I can do
> > it and it is simple.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> 1977 240D
> 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
>
> http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
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>
>
>
> Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
> -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose"
> -1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen"
> -1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf"
> -1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
> -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
> -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"
>
> -
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Trunk Leak

[LT Don]

I am ONLY responsible for the condition of vehicles I purchase with one
digit on the odometer. Every one of those was sold in showroom condition.

On 1/6/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > That is where it is coming from in my 240D. Gotta fix that someday,
> > but I
> > guess that is why the trunk wells are lined in plastic.
>
> And what's _under_ the plastic well liner?  Rusty wet metal?
>
> -- Jim
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Trunk Leak

[LT Don]

Really bid drain hole under the liner on the driver's side -- but that is
how I purchased the car.

On 1/6/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > That is where it is coming from in my 240D. Gotta fix that someday,
> > but I
> > guess that is why the trunk wells are lined in plastic.
>
> And what's _under_ the plastic well liner?  Rusty wet metal?
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Trunk Leak

[Jim Cathey]

That is where it is coming from in my 240D. Gotta fix that someday, 
but I

guess that is why the trunk wells are lined in plastic.


And what's _under_ the plastic well liner?  Rusty wet metal?

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Re: [MBZ] Windshield can't be wiped?

[Marshall Booth]

Tom Scordato wrote:

Marshall said
. "Something on the windshield (oily deposits or chemicals). Bon Ami
will take it off"  My question of the two shown below which do you 
recommend. Cleaning powder of the cleanser  I was is Wal-mart to day they 
did not carry it.


this is the stuff
http://housewares.hardwarestore.com/35-176-all-purpose-cleaners/bon-ami-cleanser-145961.aspx

http://housewares.hardwarestore.com/35-176-all-purpose-cleaners/bon-ami-cleaning-powder-648116.aspx


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Windshield can't be wiped?



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don't know what's wrong with my windshield, but the wiper will not
clear the water off of it. It just kind of smears it around. This is with
wipers of 3 different brands, including Bosch and Napa's teflon
blade. There is good spring tension pressing down on the blade.

Could there be some kind of chemical on my windshield making this
happen? Maybe an old dose of "RainX?" Maybe car wash liquid
wax? Is there any way to get it off?

There are 3 different causes of what you describe.

1. Something on the windshield (oily deposits or chemicals). Bon Ami
will take it off (don't use any other cleanser - they are too abrasive
and will scratch the glass). coca cola is supposed to work too (I've
never tried it myself).

2. The blade is old/damaged. A NEW/fresh Bosch or Mercedes blade will
solve that. Sometimes the blade can be cleaned, but that's usually a
short lived fix. A new blade EVERY year is usually required for reliable
cleaning.

3. The blade is not held against the windshield properly. This may be
because the stainless strip is installed incorrectly (the convex side
must point toward the windshield), the arm tension is insufficient, OR
the angle of the blade is incorrect (the arm may need to be bent to
properly set the blade angle so it's the same in BOTH directions of 
travel).


Marshall
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Either one WILL be satisfactory! The "original" formula is a little more 
expensive. Both are mild.


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Re: [MBZ] PM ???

[Christopher McCann]

so do the clamps around the tranny fluid lines,  but after 20 years, they wear 
out...then metal on metal till you got an  ATF gusher. I imagine you could also 
replace the line clamps with new  ones...?
  
  Chris

LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  You haven't spent much time around 
airplanes, have you?

EACH AND EVERY metal clamp on any airplane on which I have worked (and that
is quite a few) that goes around a wire bundle has a 1/4" rubber gasket as
an integral part of the assembly.

On 1/5/06, Donald Snook  wrote:
>
>
> Bravo! That is a great idea! Maybe everybody else knew to do this, But I
> didn't. I love great solutions like this. It makes sense, even I can do
> it and it is simple.
>
>
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I don't think oil cooler lines are nearly as  robust and when they start to 
leak, you better replace them (PITA) or  you could end up with dead engine 
syndrome in a heartbeat.
  
  Chris

Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Werner Fehlauer wrote:
> 
> The hoses that connect the oil cooler and transmission coolers usually last
> a lifetime 

But the rubber pads in the transmission line clamps do not. 
The steel lines for the tranny fluid are clamped to the engine.
If the line directly touches the clamps, it will eventually wear through.
Cut some pieces of fuel hose and pad those tranny lines with it.

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Trunk Leak

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Was it one of those cheap aftermarket deals or was it OE?  If it was the 
first it might not fit properly.  You can usually get away with those 
for doors, trunks etc, but not really for windshields.  Rusty it the 
best place to get any new OEM parts you need.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Actually,I bought the rear window seal on eBay and had my Glass guy install 
it so I don't know if the channel was rusted ..I  wonder if  I 've 
should have bought the seal from the dealer  ?  Or have him re-glaze with sealant 
..
  Thanks  Jim 
 Bob
   
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Trunk Leak

[RDeafBoy]

Actually,I bought the rear window seal on eBay and had my Glass guy install 
it so I don't know if the channel was rusted ..I  wonder if  I 've 
should have bought the seal from the dealer  ?  Or have him re-glaze with 
sealant 
..
  Thanks  Jim 
 Bob
   

[MBZ] rare ones - I want these

[Mitch Haley]

Thanks to for Hendrik posting the mbhistoric link.

All three of the 201s appeal to me, especially the 190TE 2.3-16 and 190TD 2.5.
http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/190te16v.html

Two bad the 190CE was neither 16v nor diesel.
That S-class van was something else.

Let's not forget the 6.3 wagon.

http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/300set63.html

Re: [MBZ] USC or UT?

[LT Don]

I am kinda bummed out that college football is over, except for some "draft
me high in the NFL" games.

On 1/6/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sounds like Norman - we keep track of home games days and times so we
> know not to wonder out 
>
> >
> >
> > Got me, kiddo. When I went to UT, I wasn't a football fan. It was a pain
> > during football season to try to go into the lab and work on home-game
> > Saturdays. The parking was horrendous. A friend said he couldn't even
> find
> > an illegal parking place within 7 blocks of the campus.
> >
> >
> > Craig
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Re: [MBZ] USC or UT?

[OK Don]

Sounds like Norman - we keep track of home games days and times so we
know not to wonder out 

>
>
> Got me, kiddo. When I went to UT, I wasn't a football fan. It was a pain
> during football season to try to go into the lab and work on home-game
> Saturdays. The parking was horrendous. A friend said he couldn't even find
> an illegal parking place within 7 blocks of the campus.
>
>
> Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Cheap 300 coupe

[Hans Neureiter]

There is a decimal point missing - $16.99 OBO.

On 1/5/06, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Has that thing been lifted?  Or does it have low-rider tires on it?
>
> --R
>
> Lee Levitt wrote:
>
> >http://boston.craigslist.org/car/122717599.html
> >
> >That'll buff right out.
> >
> >Lee
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