[MBZ] are 190s as generally bad as I've heard?

[Tim C]

Just curious - is the 190 series all that bad?  I've had several mechanics
say this - avoid them entirely - but a friend picked one up (2.6 - I want to
say '90 or so, 160-180k miles OSLT) and hasn't really had any serious issues
in about the first year

T

Re: [MBZ] OT: Browser that's a close approximation of IE page displays?

[redghost]

jim...

Jim...

JIM.


It is calling you

You need this stuff  It is going to go really cheap

The MOG wants to come over the mountains




On Friday, January 20, 2006, at 05:50 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


http://www.washington.edu/admin/surplus/jan2006catalog.html


Now _that_ looks like a fun auction.  The milling machine and
lathe lots (1 & 2) look real nice.  But I think I had better
lay low, SWMBA (A: annoyed) has already been provoked recently.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] someone knows ... now fuel gauge vs. reserve light

[Tim C]

Huh, this appears to be saying that the reserve light and fuel gauge are
independent of each other?  My gauge is equally (at least) funky in its
behavior - bounces around a lot, etc - but if the reserve light can be
trusted I see no reason to hurry fixing the gauge - so, is this the case, or
should I continue being conservative/paying close attention to the trip
odometer?

Thanks,
T

83 300SD

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marshall Booth
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 11:01 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] someone knows this
> 
> 
> Marshall Booth wrote:
> > Hans Neureiter wrote:
> >> I need to trouble shoot my fuel gauge/sender on the 126. 
> Reads full 
> >> at full tank and a little below 1/2 when the reserve light 
> comes on. 
> >> What are the specified resistance values at the full/empty 
> positions 
> >> of the sender. It's in Job 54-269, which is not on the sorry MBFSM 
> >> CD.

[MBZ] Fwd: [nwbd-discuss] Biodiesel Ready 1979 Mercedes 300D For Sale

[redghost]

Kevin?  Would you need this for your growing collection?

Begin forwarded message:


From: Michael Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat Jan 21, 2006  9:16:34 AM US/Pacific
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [nwbd-discuss] Biodiesel Ready 1979 Mercedes 300D For Sale

Selling because we need fewer cars.  White Mercedes 1980 300D.  
$600.00. About 250K miles, runs great, good tires, Comes with CD  
player/radio stereo, leather seats.  Some rought spots, including  
damaged right rear corner, but nothing that prevents it from running  
great.


I don't believe this particular bluebook value at $3100 to $4850  
according to this website.
http://www.nadaguides.com/uv/viewresults.aspx?LI=1-12-1-2031-0-0- 
0&Lnk=1&wSec=12&wPr=1&wPg=2032


Located in Medford Oregon, email for pictures or with your questions.
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Re: [MBZ] #17 head and the death of a wayward #14

[Zeitgeist]

I popped the valves out of the #14 today, and more thoroughly
inspected the head gasket and block.

I found the exhaust seats were absolutely hammered, with a deep pit in
one that nearly ran the full width of the contact area.  The valve
stems don't look too tapered and the valve heads are in remarkably
decent shape, considering the condition of the seats.  I think they
can all be easily machined with enough margin to spare.  There was
coolant in the #5 exhaust port, which is the cyl with the largest
visible combustion chamber crack.

The head gasket shows signs of either outright or preliminary failure
between several coolant jackets and the metal cylinder perimeter, as
well as between adjacent cyls.

The block appears to be in good condition, and I finally broke down
and purchased an industrial strength gasket scraper to clean up the
surfaces.  The cyls still show cross hatch marks.  I wish it was
possible to easily pop the oil pan off these engines, as I'd love to
do rings and rod bearings at this time.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)

Re: [MBZ] OT Software Firewall

[LT Don]

In that case, I think I have instructions somewhere -- simple enough for
even me to understand -- on making a firewall with FreeBSD and an old 486 w/
two NICs.

On 1/21/06, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Anything thats available  I have winders 2000, 2003, slackware and
> Mandrake
> on hand.
>
> What i had in mind is a two card box, dedicated to being only a firewall.
> Simple is good, and that is why i see the ISA as overkill.
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Homeless

[LT Don]

Actually, cars similar to your get a LOT of discussion over on Banned. For
better or for worse, this list was created out of the ashes of the old
Diesel list, so perhaps many of us on here have no knowledge of or
experience with the SEL's.

Re: [MBZ] OT Software Firewall

[Loren Faeth]

H  What about setting an old mac 7100 or so running OS7.6 of some 
flavor of Linux as a firewall?  I have some old Macs around.  Not good for 
a lot, but they are plenty good for a firewall.  Guess I'd have to use at 
least a 7200 with PCI slots for the second network card unless I could find 
a 100baseT Nubus.  I don't think anyone made a 100baseT Nubus, but I could 
be wrong.


Anybody done this?


At 04:08 PM 1/21/2006, you wrote:

Anything thats available  I have winders 2000, 2003, slackware and Mandrake
on hand.

What i had in mind is a two card box, dedicated to being only a firewall.
Simple is good, and that is why i see the ISA as overkill.

At 03:45 PM 1/21/2006, you wrote:
>Uh ... what OS, Loren?
>
>On 1/21/06, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > What is an easy to use, easy to set up (GUI), yet reasonably secure
> > software firewall?  I have ISA 2004 available and should get equal
> > consideration.  I know there are lots of linux alternatives and lots of
> > sharp IT  guys on the list.  Tell me your preferences and your thumbs 
down

> > reasons for others you have tried.
> >
> > Free is good, and in this case ISA falls in the free category.
> > Many TIA!
> >
> > Loren
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Homeless

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

so do tell about the new S class

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


<>

Yes, you are right. Cars like mine are unwelcome, discussion-wise, on this 
list, Banned and Ritter's list and always have been. 

They have their problems but few are shared with the old stuff's engineering 
errors. Now it's new engineering errors. My car doesn't have oil leaks, aux 
fans, an AC compressor clutch, subframes and their rubber mounts and all that 
old timey crap. Instead, it has memory problems periodically and a bit of 
low-rent hardware, some of which has been replaced under warranty. For example, at 
the moment the right side mirror has forgotten that it is supposed to tilt down 
when reverse is selected. Automotive Alzheimer's.


As to the comment that the R/E sans E list is devoted to the new stuff, boy 
is that wrong. Just like this list and Banned and R/E, not to mention the 
foundering MBCA forum, most of the posts relate to the sacred 300SDL, the 560SEL 
and 240Ds. Reliability nightmares such as the 140 are mentioned from time to 
time and 201 questions, rarely, but it's the 126 that rules the roost. And of 
course, when Ritter still owned his shop, it was in his best interests to praise 
the older cars because that was what he made his living from and not the 
under-warranty cars. I'm sure I wasn't the only one to pickup on that.


I toyed with the idea of mentioning that I inspected an '07 S550 (MBUSA 
owned) on the floor at my dealer's this week, perhaps describing how it makes the 
W220 look like very old news. But, I knew, sure as hell someone would wet their 
pants, claiming that a 35 year old diesel made more sense.


The Oral Roberts comment reminded me that decades ago, 60 Minutes did a piece 
on the Oral Roberts family and their University. They were interviewed on 
their patio, flashing their diamond pinkie rings. What I do recall were the two 
new black 560SELs in the drive. 


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Re: [MBZ] MBZ.org was Re: Intermittent cruise op, 85 TD

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

nowhere near all of the content is there anymore

Rick Knoble wrote:


A lot of the content from MBZ.org is getting harder to find these days --



http://mbz.org/

Works just fine. There are no email lists there though..
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Re: [MBZ] OT Software Firewall

[Loren Faeth]

Anything thats available  I have winders 2000, 2003, slackware and Mandrake 
on hand.


What i had in mind is a two card box, dedicated to being only a firewall. 
Simple is good, and that is why i see the ISA as overkill.


At 03:45 PM 1/21/2006, you wrote:

Uh ... what OS, Loren?

On 1/21/06, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What is an easy to use, easy to set up (GUI), yet reasonably secure
> software firewall?  I have ISA 2004 available and should get equal
> consideration.  I know there are lots of linux alternatives and lots of
> sharp IT  guys on the list.  Tell me your preferences and your thumbs down
> reasons for others you have tried.
>
> Free is good, and in this case ISA falls in the free category.
> Many TIA!
>
> Loren
>
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[RELNGSON]

http://www.adcritic.com/interactive/view.php?id=5927"http://www.adcriti

Re: [MBZ] OT Software Firewall

[dave walton]

I prefer hardware firewalls. Fortigate is your friend.
http://www.fortigate.com/

I've worked extensively with ISA Server. It sucks.

-Dave Walton


On 1/21/06, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What is an easy to use, easy to set up (GUI), yet reasonably secure
> software firewall?  I have ISA 2004 available and should get equal
> consideration.  I know there are lots of linux alternatives and lots of
> sharp IT  guys on the list.  Tell me your preferences and your thumbs down
> reasons for others you have tried.
>
> Free is good, and in this case ISA falls in the free category.
> Many TIA!
>
> Loren
>
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Re: [MBZ] Homeless

[RELNGSON]

<>

Yes, you are right. Cars like mine are unwelcome, discussion-wise, on this 
list, Banned and Ritter's list and always have been. 

They have their problems but few are shared with the old stuff's engineering 
errors. Now it's new engineering errors. My car doesn't have oil leaks, aux 
fans, an AC compressor clutch, subframes and their rubber mounts and all that 
old timey crap. Instead, it has memory problems periodically and a bit of 
low-rent hardware, some of which has been replaced under warranty. For example, 
at 
the moment the right side mirror has forgotten that it is supposed to tilt down 
when reverse is selected. Automotive Alzheimer's.

As to the comment that the R/E sans E list is devoted to the new stuff, boy 
is that wrong. Just like this list and Banned and R/E, not to mention the 
foundering MBCA forum, most of the posts relate to the sacred 300SDL, the 
560SEL 
and 240Ds. Reliability nightmares such as the 140 are mentioned from time to 
time and 201 questions, rarely, but it's the 126 that rules the roost. And of 
course, when Ritter still owned his shop, it was in his best interests to 
praise 
the older cars because that was what he made his living from and not the 
under-warranty cars. I'm sure I wasn't the only one to pickup on that.

I toyed with the idea of mentioning that I inspected an '07 S550 (MBUSA 
owned) on the floor at my dealer's this week, perhaps describing how it makes 
the 
W220 look like very old news. But, I knew, sure as hell someone would wet their 
pants, claiming that a 35 year old diesel made more sense.

The Oral Roberts comment reminded me that decades ago, 60 Minutes did a piece 
on the Oral Roberts family and their University. They were interviewed on 
their patio, flashing their diamond pinkie rings. What I do recall were the two 
new black 560SELs in the drive. 

RLE

Re: [MBZ] OT Software Firewall

[LT Don]

Uh ... what OS, Loren?

On 1/21/06, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What is an easy to use, easy to set up (GUI), yet reasonably secure
> software firewall?  I have ISA 2004 available and should get equal
> consideration.  I know there are lots of linux alternatives and lots of
> sharp IT  guys on the list.  Tell me your preferences and your thumbs down
> reasons for others you have tried.
>
> Free is good, and in this case ISA falls in the free category.
> Many TIA!
>
> Loren
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Software Firewall

[LT Don]

Zonealarm. And it is free.

On 1/21/06, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What is an easy to use, easy to set up (GUI), yet reasonably secure
> software firewall?  I have ISA 2004 available and should get equal
> consideration.  I know there are lots of linux alternatives and lots of
> sharp IT  guys on the list.  Tell me your preferences and your thumbs down
> reasons for others you have tried.
>
> Free is good, and in this case ISA falls in the free category.
> Many TIA!
>
> Loren
>
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Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[Marshall Booth]

Peter Frederick wrote:
Tumblers for "older cars" not stocked in the US (meaning it has to be 
ordered from Germany) do NOT come with a key, you have to buy one 
separately.  Newer cars, where  the tumbler is stocked, have a key with 
them.


I do not know why, and will not speculate, but I've been assured this 
is the case.


All of the tumblers I ordered were for 201/124s (and came from Baltimore 
WITH keys).


Many 123 tumblers came with keys 4-5 years ago, but may all come keyless 
from the Fatherland now.


Marshall
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[MBZ] OT Software Firewall

[Loren Faeth]

What is an easy to use, easy to set up (GUI), yet reasonably secure 
software firewall?  I have ISA 2004 available and should get equal 
consideration.  I know there are lots of linux alternatives and lots of 
sharp IT  guys on the list.  Tell me your preferences and your thumbs down 
reasons for others you have tried.


Free is good, and in this case ISA falls in the free category.
Many TIA!

Loren

[MBZ] MBZ.org was Re: Intermittent cruise op, 85 TD

[Rick Knoble]

A lot of the content from MBZ.org is getting harder to find these days --


http://mbz.org/

Works just fine. There are no email lists there though..
Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD

Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[Peter Frederick]

Tumblers for "older cars" not stocked in the US (meaning it has to be 
ordered from Germany) do NOT come with a key, you have to buy one 
separately.  Newer cars, where  the tumbler is stocked, have a key with 
them.


I do not know why, and will not speculate, but I've been assured this 
is the case.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] Touareg diesel

[RELNGSON]

<< Just heard that VW has released the V10 diesel for the Touareg. Its a 5.0L 
twin turbo diesel
that makes 300hp and 553 lbs of torque.>>

Do you mean it's been re-released for the US market? That engine was offered 
in the Touareg right from the beginning and was pulled off the US market over 
a year ago because CARB put a hex on it.   My friend DM had one on order for a 
while here in Seattle (replacing his 99 ML) and his order was cancelled by 
VW. It's still available elsewhere and there have been multiple road test 
articles in the Euro and UK car magazines.

Cut rate Cayenne.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Intermittent cruise op, 85 TD

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yea, I could mirror it with Jim's permission.

OK Don wrote:


Perhaps a "mirror" on the okiebenz site would be prudent?
A lot of the content from MBZ.org is getting harder to find these days --

On 1/21/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I suppose it would be alright to link to this page in the articles
section?  (you are not planning on taking it down are you?)


OK by me, I've no plans to change anything.  (Of course, who
knows with my ISP how long it'll be staying, but it's been up
for a coupla years at least.)

-- Jim




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Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

They have always been around $80 or so for the lock with the key.

Brian Chase wrote:

Okay, then I think the question here becomes: How much did you pay, 
Marshall? Perhaps the price I paid for the cylinder ($85) was not the 
price for a cyl. and a key. I thought the list had told me in the past 
that I'd be looking at some $120 for a cylinder and key (coded to my VIN).


Not trying to kick at a dead horse, just trying to find out if my dealer 
rep screwed up and is trying to cover himself. If all is as it should 
be, I'll be satisfied.


Brian
83 240D


From: Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:05:31 -0500

Brian Chase wrote:
> Is this in keeping with your experince, list? I received my new 
ignition

> tumbler today (c. $85). The guy told me it is "coded" to my existing
> key, but said it would come with a key included for that price. But it
> did not come with a key.
>
> Called him, he said, oh, the deal where it's coded to your existing 
key,

> is that it doesn't come with a key.
>
> Fortunately, I did order an "extra" key, thinking we'd wind up with two
> new steel, dealer-issued keys. But we'll make due with the one, and use
> the brass copy for backup.

Every tumbler I've ever ordered (at least 3 of them - maybe 4) came with
a key - ordering one without the key was NOT an option (I've tried).

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I bet he ordered the extra key and the dealer decided to make extra 
profit by taking the key out and saying that was his extra key he ordered.


Dave M. wrote:


The EPC always identifies the tumblers as "less key", but they do come
with a key. The dealer parts guy says that when the code the lock, the
only way to test it is to cut a key for it. So they cut a key, test
the lock, and then ship it with the key. Either MB recently changed
it's policy somehow (which I doubt), somebody goofed up, or the
dealership thinks they need to remove the key since the EPC said it
wasn't supposed to include one. You *did* buy this from a Mercedes
dealer, right?

-dm



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From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:


its supposed to come with an extra key, should have ordered from rusty.


Maybe they forgot to order the key and covered the mistake by selling
him the key that came with the cylinder. (or maybe something has changed
in MBUSA land)



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Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[Gary Hurst]

we have accounts with 5 or 6 mercedes dealers.  none of them will sell us
keys anymore.  even if our customers would pay us more (h, what planet
you from, btw, johnny B?), we could not get them keys from any of our
sources

no keys.  can't get em


On 1/21/06, John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 21, 2006, at 10:16 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>
> > nobody wants to sell us keys.   it's a hassle for the dealership
> > and no one
> > is currently willing to supply us with VIN coded keys and
> > tumblers.  It's
> > not a matter of willingness, you punk, johnny B
>
>I love you too, you big Teddy Bear of a man. So, its a hassle.
> Hassle= more or tell the customer to go to his local dealer and
> handle it. I will procure locks and keys for anyone, however you want
> them for an additional charge of $125.00 for doing the leg work. this
> payable in advance.
>
>
> Johnny B
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>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[tom savage]

Brian Chase wrote:

What and where is this "secret lock facility"? They told me that the cyl. 
would come from Germany via Texas, and that it may take 6 - 8 weeks,


I confess not to have caught all of this thread, but something is fishy 
here.  Last time I ordered a lock cylinder for my 123, the dealer said 
it would come from Maryland. (This was in West Virginia and that was the 
nearest dist center.)  He was a nice guy and always flagged my orders as 
"expedite" and I had it less than a week, maybe a couple days.  This was 
in 2001 or '02 and I think the cost was $77 (can't find the receipt 
right now).  It came with a key.



Tom

Re: [MBZ] eBay Gwag

[Jeff Zedic]

Hmmm, that's not too far fom me if anyone wants me to have a look at it. 
I used to work at the Toyota dealer down the road from this place.


Jeff Zedic
Toronto

Re: [MBZ] eBay Gwag

[tom savage]

Dave M. wrote:

Wow. That looks like a cool toy. What a shame it's not in the States!
I'm guessing the 2.9L is a typo...


There was a 2.9L OM602 in turbo and non-turbo flavors, though the 95hp 
claim sounds more like the 2.5L version.  They were also used in the 
Sprinter and w210, and are still used in certain Korean SUVs.


Tom

Re: [MBZ] high$$

[Loren Faeth]

Dr. Booth,

I am sure what you experienced when it was new was true.  I joined it a few 
weeks before the oral Roberts thing.  96 or 97 I think.  I was only on it a 
few weeks.  Again, no disrespect intended.  To me, that list was just a 
different thing that held little or no interest.


Loren
2x 66 200D and 81 240D at the time.

At 01:16 PM 1/21/2006, you wrote:

Loren Faeth wrote:
> During my brief time on the R/e list there was no discussion about 
anything

> MB less than 5 years old.

Very odd. I was a charter member of the R/E list (there were 10 of us
that participated for about 2-3 weeks before the list was opened to the
public and anyone else was asked to join) and at no time was discussion
confined or even largely about current cars. 90% of discussion was and
is about cars that are 10 or more years old (because that what the vast
majority of the listers own) with most revolving around '70s and '80s cars.

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Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[Brian Chase]

Thank you. Now you may go back to what you were doing.

Brian


From: Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:48:52 -0500

Brian Chase wrote:
> There may not be any patience left for this question, but Marshall, were
> the cylinder/key combos that you are speaking of coded to your VINs? Or
> not.

YES!!!

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Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[Marshall Booth]

Brian Chase wrote:
There may not be any patience left for this question, but Marshall, were 
the cylinder/key combos that you are speaking of coded to your VINs? Or 
not.


YES!!!

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Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[Marshall Booth]

Brian Chase wrote:
Okay, then I think the question here becomes: How much did you pay, 
Marshall? Perhaps the price I paid for the cylinder ($85) was not the 
price for a cyl. and a key. I thought the list had told me in the past 
that I'd be looking at some $120 for a cylinder and key (coded to my VIN).


Not trying to kick at a dead horse, just trying to find out if my dealer 
rep screwed up and is trying to cover himself. If all is as it should 
be, I'll be satisfied.


Prices have gone up at LEAST several times since I bought the most 
recent one of mine, but the cost of the tumbler AND key was about 4X the 
cost of a key alone.


Dealers are NOT required to sell parts at the suggested list price that 
Mercedes publishes and many mark them up 25-100% above "list." They can 
choose to sell them for whatever they can get for them. When there is NO 
competition, some go crazy. When there were 5 Mercedes dealers within 
the Pittsburgh metropolitan area, prices were quite respectable and you 
could bargain. Now there is not a single Mercedes dealer in Allegheny 
county (Pittsburgh and 128 other municipalities comprise All'y Co) with 
the 4 surrounding dealerships 20-40 miles outside the city and all of 
them change list+ for parts.


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Re: [MBZ] Intermittent cruise op, 85 TD

[OK Don]

Perhaps a "mirror" on the okiebenz site would be prudent?
A lot of the content from MBZ.org is getting harder to find these days --

On 1/21/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I suppose it would be alright to link to this page in the articles
> > section?  (you are not planning on taking it down are you?)
>
> OK by me, I've no plans to change anything.  (Of course, who
> knows with my ISP how long it'll be staying, but it's been up
> for a coupla years at least.)
>
> -- Jim
>

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Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[Brian Chase]

There may not be any patience left for this question, but Marshall, were the 
cylinder/key combos that you are speaking of coded to your VINs? Or not.


Dave, I bought it from Maplewood Imports near St. Paul, MN.

Brian


From: "Dave M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:20:08 -0700

The EPC always identifies the tumblers as "less key", but they do come
with a key. The dealer parts guy says that when the code the lock, the
only way to test it is to cut a key for it. So they cut a key, test
the lock, and then ship it with the key. Either MB recently changed
it's policy somehow (which I doubt), somebody goofed up, or the
dealership thinks they need to remove the key since the EPC said it
wasn't supposed to include one. You *did* buy this from a Mercedes
dealer, right?

-dm

> --
> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:43:22 -0500
> From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key
>
> "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
> >
> > its supposed to come with an extra key, should have ordered from 
rusty.

>
> Maybe they forgot to order the key and covered the mistake by selling
> him the key that came with the cylinder. (or maybe something has changed
> in MBUSA land)

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Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[Brian Chase]

Okay, then I think the question here becomes: How much did you pay, 
Marshall? Perhaps the price I paid for the cylinder ($85) was not the price 
for a cyl. and a key. I thought the list had told me in the past that I'd be 
looking at some $120 for a cylinder and key (coded to my VIN).


Not trying to kick at a dead horse, just trying to find out if my dealer rep 
screwed up and is trying to cover himself. If all is as it should be, I'll 
be satisfied.


Brian
83 240D


From: Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:05:31 -0500

Brian Chase wrote:
> Is this in keeping with your experince, list? I received my new ignition
> tumbler today (c. $85). The guy told me it is "coded" to my existing
> key, but said it would come with a key included for that price. But it
> did not come with a key.
>
> Called him, he said, oh, the deal where it's coded to your existing key,
> is that it doesn't come with a key.
>
> Fortunately, I did order an "extra" key, thinking we'd wind up with two
> new steel, dealer-issued keys. But we'll make due with the one, and use
> the brass copy for backup.

Every tumbler I've ever ordered (at least 3 of them - maybe 4) came with
a key - ordering one without the key was NOT an option (I've tried).

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Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[Dave M.]

The EPC always identifies the tumblers as "less key", but they do come
with a key. The dealer parts guy says that when the code the lock, the
only way to test it is to cut a key for it. So they cut a key, test
the lock, and then ship it with the key. Either MB recently changed
it's policy somehow (which I doubt), somebody goofed up, or the
dealership thinks they need to remove the key since the EPC said it
wasn't supposed to include one. You *did* buy this from a Mercedes
dealer, right?

-dm

> --
> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 19:43:22 -0500
> From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key
>
> "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
> >
> > its supposed to come with an extra key, should have ordered from rusty.
>
> Maybe they forgot to order the key and covered the mistake by selling
> him the key that came with the cylinder. (or maybe something has changed
> in MBUSA land)

Re: [MBZ] Intermittent cruise op, 85 TD

[Marshall Booth]

Harry Watkins wrote:
My wagon has three phases and no warning of which is on duty. 


On an 80 mile trip the other day, nothing would make it work as I tried 
numerous times/things.  Next time it works after fiddling with it.  Yesterday 
on the out trip, it engaged like a new one, lasted about four miles, disengaged 
and quit.  Coming back trip, it worked like a new one all the way with calling 
for it about four times.

The return spring for the pedal seems pretty stiff to me and I wondered if that 
could be a cause.

Where should I start looking?


The problem is almost always poor solder connections - usually inside 
the amplifier.


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Re: [MBZ] high$$

[Marshall Booth]

Loren Faeth wrote:
During my brief time on the R/e list there was no discussion about anything 
MB less than 5 years old.


Very odd. I was a charter member of the R/E list (there were 10 of us 
that participated for about 2-3 weeks before the list was opened to the 
public and anyone else was asked to join) and at no time was discussion 
confined or even largely about current cars. 90% of discussion was and 
is about cars that are 10 or more years old (because that what the vast 
majority of the listers own) with most revolving around '70s and '80s cars.


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Re: [MBZ] Nice W115, and ebay question

[Brian Chase]

Yeah, I figured it was well-known. The thing I was wondering about is: Since 
the language is so similar to what I encountered some time ago on a 
different selling site, is this scam so standard that many people choose to 
use the same lousy language? Or is it the same person(s)?


Not a terribly important question, just wondering. I picture some dude 
spending all his time sending out these poorly-written scams. It would be 
more than a full-time job. If this is not the scenario, why is the language 
so similar (including very poor mastery of the king's english)? Or is it 
automated and mass distributed?


I question, therefore I am.

Brian


From: John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice W115, and ebay question
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:53:56 -0500


On Jan 20, 2006, at 9:50 PM, Brian Chase wrote:

> As soon as I read a certain one of those responses, I recognized it
> as a scam. I tried to sell my truck on CraigsList and some guy with
> very bad English (much like the message in question here) tried to
> get me to pay (using his check) the guy that he would send to pick
> up my vehicle.
>
> When my wife tried to sell something on CraigsList, she got
> virtually the same message. This must be VERY common!?
>
> I politely asked him to elaborate and that I could not accept those
> terms. No response.
>
> It's the all-caps one with the "I will like to... and My client..."
>
> Oh, I just read the seller's response to it. It must be a well-
> known con?
>
> Brian

CL is very aware of these scams. Everyone should be by now. They
always throw a disclaimer/warning up for those who choose to
advertise there. It is usually highlighted in yellow..

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Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[Marshall Booth]

Mitch Haley wrote:

Marshall Booth wrote:

Every tumbler I've ever ordered (at least 3 of them - maybe 4) came with
a key - ordering one without the key was NOT an option (I've tried).


Were any ordered before they centralized the process?
(they changed the location where the work was done sometime last
year, didn't they?)


Several of mine came from the Baltimore distribution center and at least 
one came from Rusty. None have been received in the last 2 years.


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Re: [MBZ] someone knows this

[Marshall Booth]

Marshall Booth wrote:

Hans Neureiter wrote:

I need to trouble shoot my fuel gauge/sender on the 126. Reads full at full
tank and a little below 1/2 when the reserve light comes on.
What are the specified resistance values at the full/empty positions of the
sender. It's in Job 54-269, which is not on the sorry MBFSM CD.



No, It's here: http://mb.braingears.com/123_DISK2/program/Chassis/54-257.pdf

Marshall




Or for a 126 it's here:

http://mb.braingears.com/126_DISC1/program/Chassis/54-257.pdf

I expect that it's on your CD (look for 54-257 in the directory under 
chassis - it's NOT shown within the program - don't know why).


Marshall

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Re: [MBZ] someone knows this

[Hans Neureiter]

Thanks, Marshall.

On 1/21/06, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hans Neureiter wrote:
> > I need to trouble shoot my fuel gauge/sender on the 126. Reads full at
> full
> > tank and a little below 1/2 when the reserve light comes on.
> > What are the specified resistance values at the full/empty positions of
> the
> > sender. It's in Job 54-269, which is not on the sorry MBFSM CD.
>
>
> No, It's here:
> http://mb.braingears.com/123_DISK2/program/Chassis/54-257.pdf
>
> Marshall
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] eBay Gwag

[Dave M.]

Wow. That looks like a cool toy. What a shame it's not in the States!
I'm guessing the 2.9L is a typo...

:)

+dm

> On 1/21/06, Joe Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4606558647
>
> Anybody in the market for an offroad toy?  The imagination runs a little
> wild at the prospect of an engine transplant; all the room in the world for
> mods to an OM602.  Did MB market a 2.9L NA 602?  If not, what in the world
> is that thing?
>
> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/dominiquesav/my_photos
>
> j

Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[Brian Chase]

'Preciate the concise info. Actually my deal is that I ordered a lock 
cylinder (coded to my VIN) and was told by the rep that it would come with a 
key too (obviously also coded to my VIN) I paid some $85 for this. It did 
not come with a key. Just the cylinder was sent. I called him and asked 
what's up - he basically said, his bad - that he told me the wrong thing, 
and that in fact, the option to order the cylinder coded to VIN should not 
come with a key. And the option to order a cyl. and a key together would not 
yield a set coded to an existing VIN.


Fortunately, I had ordered an extra key (coded) (arrived separately and 
several days earlier than cyl.). So all told, I have the cylinder 
(supposedly coded to my VIN) and one key (also supposedly coded to my VIN). 
I haven't confirmed that they work yet.


What and where is this "secret lock facility"? They told me that the cyl. 
would come from Germany via Texas, and that it may take 6 - 8 weeks, but 
they could not say for sure how long it'd take. It actually only took about 
a coulpe weeks.


Thanks
Brian
83 240D


From: John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:38:37 -0500


On Jan 20, 2006, at 8:26 PM, Loren Faeth wrote:

> I believe Rusty can get generic ign or door sets, but the last time I
> checked, he was unable to provide keys by VIN or code.
>
> Brian, publish the MB part number and someone can probably
> determine if it
> is a lock and key, or lock only.

Anyone can get lock cylinders VIN matched from your local friendly
dealer.

Key should not come with VIN matched cylinder unless ordered. (they
will come from 2 different places, as MB must actually set-up the
lock cylinder at their secret lock facility).

A key will come with a lock cylinder that is not coded to the VIN.

Keys coded to the VIN can be purchased separately.


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Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[Marshall Booth]

The tumblers and keys I received from Mercedes (with keys inserted in 
the locks inside the bag) had a SINGLE part number.


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Re: [MBZ] W210.025/OM606.962 delivery valves (finished!) -- HOWTO

[Marshall Booth]

Nice writeup. One caution. Even if you torque the delivery valves 
PERFECTLY, they might still distort the injection pump body. That will 
cause noise (and damage if not promptly corrected) and result in 
incorrect/uneven fuel delivery. The cure is to loosen and re-torque the 
delivery valve for the cylinder that's misfiring. valve.


Even experienced pros using a torque wrench seem to distort the pump 
maybe 1 out of 10 times (I'm told) and need to loosen and retighten the 
valve. It may be that the earlier OM60x pumps are more touchy about this 
than the later ones and I KNOW that the 6 cylinder versions are much 
worse than the 4 or 5 cylinder pumps.


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Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[Tom Hargrave]

Yep, they centralized all of the parts warehouses when they merged Chrysler
parts warehouses with Mercedes parts warehouses.

An interesting piece of trivia - my Wife works at the Milwaukee depot, one
of three super warehouses run by Diamler-Chrysler. And generally speaking,
Mercedes parts cost less than Chrysler parts at the wholesale level.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key


Marshall Booth wrote:
> Every tumbler I've ever ordered (at least 3 of them - maybe 4) came with
> a key - ordering one without the key was NOT an option (I've tried).

Were any ordered before they centralized the process?
(they changed the location where the work was done sometime last
year, didn't they?)

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Re: [MBZ] someone knows this

[Marshall Booth]

Hans Neureiter wrote:

I need to trouble shoot my fuel gauge/sender on the 126. Reads full at full
tank and a little below 1/2 when the reserve light comes on.
What are the specified resistance values at the full/empty positions of the
sender. It's in Job 54-269, which is not on the sorry MBFSM CD.



No, It's here: http://mb.braingears.com/123_DISK2/program/Chassis/54-257.pdf

Marshall


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Re: [MBZ] Intermittent cruise op, 85 TD

[Jim Cathey]

I suppose it would be alright to link to this page in the articles
section?  (you are not planning on taking it down are you?)


OK by me, I've no plans to change anything.  (Of course, who
knows with my ISP how long it'll be staying, but it's been up
for a coupla years at least.)

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[Mitch Haley]

Mitch Haley wrote:
> 
> Marshall Booth wrote:
> > Every tumbler I've ever ordered (at least 3 of them - maybe 4) came with
> > a key - ordering one without the key was NOT an option (I've tried).
> 
> Were any ordered before they centralized the process?
> (they changed the location where the work was done sometime last
> year, didn't they?)
> 

I meant to say, were any ordered AFTER the current system was in place.
Mitch

Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[Mitch Haley]

Marshall Booth wrote:
> Every tumbler I've ever ordered (at least 3 of them - maybe 4) came with
> a key - ordering one without the key was NOT an option (I've tried).

Were any ordered before they centralized the process?
(they changed the location where the work was done sometime last
year, didn't they?)

Re: [MBZ] Nice W115, and ebay question

[Mitch Haley]

Robert & Tara Ludwick wrote:
>  I got ahold of him 5 months later just to
> see, and he still had the car and i lucked out, but that guy got stabbed
> for listing fees on ebay. i don't know if he ever got out of that due to
> non paying bidder or not.

When I left eBay (they bought my least favorite criminal organization,
Paypal) the system was that you could get your selling price commission
refunded due to non-paying bidder. If you needed to relist an unsold item,
you could relist it once for free. I suspect the guy you bought the car
from paid eBay's listing fee twice, and got zero benefit.

Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[Marshall Booth]

Brian Chase wrote:
Is this in keeping with your experince, list? I received my new ignition 
tumbler today (c. $85). The guy told me it is "coded" to my existing 
key, but said it would come with a key included for that price. But it 
did not come with a key.


Called him, he said, oh, the deal where it's coded to your existing key, 
is that it doesn't come with a key.


Fortunately, I did order an "extra" key, thinking we'd wind up with two 
new steel, dealer-issued keys. But we'll make due with the one, and use 
the brass copy for backup.


Every tumbler I've ever ordered (at least 3 of them - maybe 4) came with 
a key - ordering one without the key was NOT an option (I've tried).


Marshall
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turbo 237kmi

Re: [MBZ] Intermittent cruise op, 85 TD

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I suppose it would be alright to link to this page in the articles 
section?  (you are not planning on taking it down are you?)


Jim Cathey wrote:


Where should I start looking?



_Inside_ the cruise control amplifier.  They are notorious
for bad solder joint problems.  See:

http://cathey.dogear.com/cwcruise.html

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] MBCA Route 66

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

get a job, maybe walmart will hire you as a greeter.

George Gregory wrote:


They're having a dinner at the Kemp.  I might re-join so I can go to the
dinner.

Sounds like a great trip, but alas I am poor and DO NOT have a job.
 
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-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:55 AM

Hmm.  I live about a mile from Route 66.  Wonder if I can participate 
for just the Springfield, IL - St Louis leg, which would make a good 
birthday activity.  Wonder also if they're traveling the entire route; 
parading unarmed through East St Louis in Mercedes is just not a wise idea.


Sounds like a great trip, but alas I am poor and have a job.

Tom



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[MBZ] Glorious Day!

[frederick w moir]

Hi,All.
	Just got back from a 2 hour blast up the highway in my '85 300TD. Gee, but 
I love this car! Sat for 8 months, blew up tyres, checked fluids, hoses, 
belts, etc. etc. and Hi! Ho! Silver! (Blue) and awaaay!

(Must take my downers as I am too high.)
The delete key is "you-know-where"
TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
It's diesel this and diesel that, and throw him out, the brute! (with 
apologies to R. Kipling)

Re: [MBZ] Nice W115, and ebay question

[Robert & Tara Ludwick]

If you go to the federal trade commission website, they list the 
international cashiers chec scam as one of the top scams going on in the 
country. It's really getting bad. I think someone may have even created 
a program to automaticaly respond to everything on Craigslist because 
when I've listed things there, al lthe responses were from cashiers 
check scammers and most were a form letter that didn't even mention the 
item listed, it would just say something like "your item" or "your Product"
These clowns bid up cars on ebay all the time too. I bought a volvo 
diesel from a guy last year that I knew, I thought he had sold the car 
already, he had listed it on ebay, a scammer had the high bid, he listed 
it again, a different scammer had the high bid, he finally gave up ( 
good for me, bad for him ) I got ahold of him 5 months later just to 
see, and he still had the car and i lucked out, but that guy got stabbed 
for listing fees on ebay. i don't know if he ever got out of that due to 
non paying bidder or not.


-Robert

John Berryman wrote:

On Jan 20, 2006, at 9:50 PM, Brian Chase wrote:

  
As soon as I read a certain one of those responses, I recognized it  
as a scam. I tried to sell my truck on CraigsList and some guy with  
very bad English (much like the message in question here) tried to  
get me to pay (using his check) the guy that he would send to pick  
up my vehicle.


When my wife tried to sell something on CraigsList, she got  
virtually the same message. This must be VERY common!?


I politely asked him to elaborate and that I could not accept those  
terms. No response.


It's the all-caps one with the "I will like to... and My client..."

Oh, I just read the seller's response to it. It must be a well- 
known con?


Brian



CL is very aware of these scams. Everyone should be by now. They  
always throw a disclaimer/warning up for those who choose to  
advertise there. It is usually highlighted in yellow..


Johnny B
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Re: [MBZ] Intermittent cruise op, 85 TD

[Jim Cathey]

Where should I start looking?


_Inside_ the cruise control amplifier.  They are notorious
for bad solder joint problems.  See:

http://cathey.dogear.com/cwcruise.html

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Re: [MBZ] someone knows this

[Hans Neureiter]

I looked at these. All it saysat the end: Test Fuel gauge (54-269).

On 1/20/06, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hans Neureiter wrote:
> > I need to trouble shoot my fuel gauge/sender on the 126. Reads full at
> full
> > tank and a little below 1/2 when the reserve light comes on.
> > What are the specified resistance values at the full/empty positions of
> the
> > sender. It's in Job 54-269, which is not on the sorry MBFSM CD.
>
> Try 47-710 and 47-715
>
> Marshall
>
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Re: [MBZ] MBCA Route 66

[George Gregory]

They're having a dinner at the Kemp.  I might re-join so I can go to the
dinner.

Sounds like a great trip, but alas I am poor and DO NOT have a job.
 
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-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:55 AM

Hmm.  I live about a mile from Route 66.  Wonder if I can participate 
for just the Springfield, IL - St Louis leg, which would make a good 
birthday activity.  Wonder also if they're traveling the entire route; 
parading unarmed through East St Louis in Mercedes is just not a wise idea.

Sounds like a great trip, but alas I am poor and have a job.

Tom

Re: [MBZ] Chuck doesn't want this

[John Ervine]

tom savage wrote:


Crack due to price or crack because the ad has scam written all over it?


How about crack because the seller and the car are in Spain with a model of car 
that was never sold in the US, attempting to sell the car in the US?


So, completely ignoring the potential scam aspect, he's selling a car that can't 
be registered for legal road use in the market he's attempting to sell it in.


But a 2.5-16v Evo II?  Drool.  Shame it isn't a widebody, though...

--
John L. Ervine
1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi
1980 300TD 170+kmi
1980 300SD 277+kmi
1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi

[MBZ] Intermittent cruise op, 85 TD

[Harry Watkins]

My wagon has three phases and no warning of which is on duty. 

On an 80 mile trip the other day, nothing would make it work as I tried 
numerous times/things.  Next time it works after fiddling with it.  Yesterday 
on the out trip, it engaged like a new one, lasted about four miles, disengaged 
and quit.  Coming back trip, it worked like a new one all the way with calling 
for it about four times.

The return spring for the pedal seems pretty stiff to me and I wondered if that 
could be a cause.

Where should I start looking?

Harry Watkins
Newton, MS
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans

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On Jan 20, 2006, at 9:50 PM, Brian Chase wrote:

> As soon as I read a certain one of those responses, I recognized it
> as a scam. I tried to sell my truck on CraigsList and some guy with
> very bad English (much like the message in question here) tried to
> get me to pay (using his check) the guy that he would send to pick
> up my vehicle.
>
> When my wife tried to sell something on CraigsList, she got
> virtually the same message. This must be VERY common!?
>
> I politely asked him to elaborate and that I could not accept those
> terms. No response.
>
> It's the all-caps one with the "I will like to... and My client..."
>
> Oh, I just read the seller's response to it. It must be a well-
> known con?
>
> Brian

CL is very aware of these scams. Everyone should be by now. They
always throw a disclaimer/warning up for those who choose to
advertise there. It is usually highlighted in yellow..

Johnny B
iMac therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] MBCA Route 66

[tom savage]

James Zavesky wrote:


The dates are for the Historic Route 66 Tour from Chicago, IL to Santa
Monica, CA. is September 16 - 30, 2006. Full details can be found at the
link below:

http://www.mbca.org/pages/Route66/Route_66_2006.htm


Hmm.  I live about a mile from Route 66.  Wonder if I can participate 
for just the Springfield, IL - St Louis leg, which would make a good 
birthday activity.  Wonder also if they're traveling the entire route; 
parading unarmed through East St Louis in Mercedes is just not a wise idea.


Sounds like a great trip, but alas I am poor and have a job.

Tom

Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[John Berryman]

On Jan 21, 2006, at 10:16 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:

nobody wants to sell us keys.   it's a hassle for the dealership  
and no one
is currently willing to supply us with VIN coded keys and  
tumblers.  It's

not a matter of willingness, you punk, johnny B


	I love you too, you big Teddy Bear of a man. So, its a hassle.  
Hassle= more or tell the customer to go to his local dealer and  
handle it. I will procure locks and keys for anyone, however you want  
them for an additional charge of $125.00 for doing the leg work. this  
payable in advance.



Johnny B
iMac therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Chuck doesn't want this

[tom savage]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

I think they are on crack


Crack due to price or crack because the ad has scam written all over it?

The 190 Evo is a serious car and while I don't know what they're worth 
today, the price is almost certain to higher next year.


http://www.germancarfans.com/classics.cfm/classicid/5050208.001/mercedes/1.html

Tom

Re: [MBZ] Chuck doesn't want this

[Mitch Haley]

"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
> 
> I think they are on crack

Yeah, for $15,000 it might be reasonable, $10k would be a bargain.

Re: [MBZ] non Mercedes topic

[dave walton]

Last I heard, the EPA has not yet approved their emission reduction
system for sale in the US. 2004 was the first and last year they
imported the V10.
Have things changed?

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300

On 1/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Just heard that VW has released the V10 diesel for the Touareg. Its a 5.0L 
> twin turbo diesel
> that makes 300hp and 553 lbs of torque.
>
> 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
> 72 350SL   108,000 Miles
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Re: [MBZ] high$$

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

and dont forget you have rrannk bbbarret posting all the time there. 
 sorry, couldnt resist.


Loren Faeth wrote:

During my brief time on the R/e list there was no discussion about anything 
MB less than 5 years old.  It was more like Should I order it in champagne 
or cognac?  Then they got into the Oral Roberts thing and I bailed.  It was 
generating 200-300 emails a day of stuff i had no interest in.


This list centers primarily around cars that are 20 years old  + or - 5 or 
10   There is a big difference between a 50-120K sticker price and a $500 
to 5000 car.


I realize that there is some crossover and a few on this list have 90 
something MBs, but the vast majority of both list, in my experience, fit 
the descriptions above.  No disrespect to anyone on either list, but the 
R/E list had little or nothing of interest to me.  But I don't own anything 
that has less than 200K miles.  (and less than 19 years old)  (the SL is my 
daughter's but it turns 21 the same month she does)


All I meant my the High $ comment was the price of new cars vs the 
price of 20 year old veteran cars.  I meant no disrespect to either


At 12:32 AM 1/21/2006, you wrote:



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Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

nice to meet you Confused

Lee Levitt wrote:


Subject line: Mistakes a diesel owner should not make.

Topic: runaway dogs.

Me: Confused.

Lee


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Re: [MBZ] Chuck doesn't want this

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I think they are on crack

Mitch Haley wrote:


Low mile one owner 16v on eBay. Premium price for a premium car.
Too bad Chuck L. doesn't want a Pearl Black 190e, because
the Evolution models only came in one color.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4606553821


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Re: [MBZ] high$$

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

thats because your cheap class woger :)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


<>

What exactly does this mean? I continue to get the Ritter list digest even 
though I was ejected year before last and I can assure you I don't have any $$ 
signs painted on my ass.


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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yea, they really worry about us overthere.  What they worry about is our 
people sneaking onto their list then trashing it or something.


Loren Faeth wrote:


WOW!  we are that important to the High $$ gang?


At 06:24 PM 1/20/2006, you wrote:


they do have spies over here.  I know this for a fact.




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[MBZ] non Mercedes topic

[mykd1]

 Just heard that VW has released the V10 diesel for the Touareg. Its a 5.0L 
twin turbo diesel 
that makes 300hp and 553 lbs of torque. 
 
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72 350SL   108,000 Miles
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[MBZ] Chuck doesn't want this

[Mitch Haley]

Low mile one owner 16v on eBay. Premium price for a premium car.
Too bad Chuck L. doesn't want a Pearl Black 190e, because
the Evolution models only came in one color.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4606553821

Re: [MBZ] high$$

[Loren Faeth]

During my brief time on the R/e list there was no discussion about anything 
MB less than 5 years old.  It was more like Should I order it in champagne 
or cognac?  Then they got into the Oral Roberts thing and I bailed.  It was 
generating 200-300 emails a day of stuff i had no interest in.


This list centers primarily around cars that are 20 years old  + or - 5 or 
10   There is a big difference between a 50-120K sticker price and a $500 
to 5000 car.


I realize that there is some crossover and a few on this list have 90 
something MBs, but the vast majority of both list, in my experience, fit 
the descriptions above.  No disrespect to anyone on either list, but the 
R/E list had little or nothing of interest to me.  But I don't own anything 
that has less than 200K miles.  (and less than 19 years old)  (the SL is my 
daughter's but it turns 21 the same month she does)


All I meant my the High $ comment was the price of new cars vs the 
price of 20 year old veteran cars.  I meant no disrespect to either


At 12:32 AM 1/21/2006, you wrote:

<>

What exactly does this mean? I continue to get the Ritter list digest even
though I was ejected year before last and I can assure you I don't have 
any $$

signs painted on my ass.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[Gary Hurst]

nobody wants to sell us keys.   it's a hassle for the dealership and no one
is currently willing to supply us with VIN coded keys and tumblers.  It's
not a matter of willingness, you punk, johnny B

On 1/21/06, John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2006, at 8:29 PM, LT Don wrote:
>
> > He told me personally that he can't get keys at the moment.
>
>More like won't or doesn't want to. He would need to go to MB for
> them, just like you would/should. I just got keys for 2 different
> cars, picked them up (along with a few other pieces/parts) yesterday
> (Friday).
>My guys at the dealer have never asked me for any proof of
> ownership
> but I am a registered repair shop and have been dealing with them for
> a long, long time. The general public should be asked to produce
> proof of ownership.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[John Berryman]

On Jan 20, 2006, at 8:26 PM, Loren Faeth wrote:


I believe Rusty can get generic ign or door sets, but the last time I
checked, he was unable to provide keys by VIN or code.

Brian, publish the MB part number and someone can probably  
determine if it

is a lock and key, or lock only.


Anyone can get lock cylinders VIN matched from your local friendly  
dealer.


Key should not come with VIN matched cylinder unless ordered. (they  
will come from 2 different places, as MB must actually set-up the  
lock cylinder at their secret lock facility).


A key will come with a lock cylinder that is not coded to the VIN.

Keys coded to the VIN can be purchased separately.


Johnny B
iMac therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Got Tumbler but no Key

[John Berryman]

On Jan 20, 2006, at 8:29 PM, LT Don wrote:


He told me personally that he can't get keys at the moment.


	More like won't or doesn't want to. He would need to go to MB for  
them, just like you would/should. I just got keys for 2 different  
cars, picked them up (along with a few other pieces/parts) yesterday 
(Friday).
	My guys at the dealer have never asked me for any proof of ownership  
but I am a registered repair shop and have been dealing with them for  
a long, long time. The general public should be asked to produce  
proof of ownership.



Johnny B
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Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading

[Andrew Cunningham]

 photoshop time?

On 1/21/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Odometer reads 123456.
>
> More forethought required, but the trip _should_ have
> been reset so that it read 7890.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

[Lee Levitt]

Subject line: Mistakes a diesel owner should not make.

Topic: runaway dogs.

Me: Confused.

Lee

[MBZ] FW: DeerHunter.wmv

[BillR]

 
Everyone has a different sense of humor.  I thought it worth watching, but
then I am sorta evjoy'en the Larry the Cable Guy  book loaned to me, mostly.
BillR
Jacksonville  FL
1981 300SD EM  270k miles
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Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?

[Barry Stark]

Don -
Just wanted to add that it is really a function of the compresson ratio of
the engine. If your compression ratio gets up towards 10:1 it really should
be running the good stuff. Most modern engines these days have knock sensors
or detonation sensors that retard the spark when it begins to detonate to
keep from damaging the engine. The late timing adversely affects performance
and usually fuel mileage too. You might want to try the premium and see if
running the cheaper price stuff is really worth it in the long run.

Barry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Premium Gas or Not?


Donald Snook wrote:
> I have not had a gas Mercedes since 1998 and it was a 1971 (that
> originally ran on regular i.e. leaded gas), so I am not clear on the
> premium gas requirement on newer gasser MB's.   Do I really need to run
> premium in my 1990 300SEL?   I am pretty sure the simple answer will be
> yes. Just wondering if anyone had thoughts on this issue.

The M103 engine will run on less than premium, but will NOT run as it
was intended to run.

Marshall

Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading

[Jim Cathey]

Odometer reads 123456.


More forethought required, but the trip _should_ have
been reset so that it read 7890.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] high$$

[LT Don]

MBCA [sorry, L.].

On 1/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> <>
>
> What exactly does this mean? I continue to get the Ritter list digest even
> though I was ejected year before last and I can assure you I don't have
> any $$
> signs painted on my ass.
>
> RLE
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Re: [MBZ] high$$

[RELNGSON]

<>

What exactly does this mean? I continue to get the Ritter list digest even 
though I was ejected year before last and I can assure you I don't have any $$ 
signs painted on my ass.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading

[LT Don]

Numerology and growing up Fundamentalist Baptist seem to go hand in hand.

BAD DOG -- NO NEW THREADS. DOWN ... NO.

D.


On 1/21/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Numerologists! The lot of you!
>
> I can never remember to catch moments like that - too busy driving, I
> guess.
>
> On 1/20/06, Brian Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That is actually very cool. If I remember, I could catch that shot in a
> > couple thou. Of course I won't. Great pic to share.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > >From: LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading
> > >Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:17:41 +
> > >
> > >Odometer reads 123456.
> > >
> > >On 1/21/06, Brian Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Pic didn't show up for me. What was the unique mileage?
> > > >
> > > > I remember when my Sportie turned 40k, I pulled over, let my dog (90
> lbs
> > > > worth) out of his riding compartment, and took a pic with the two of
> > >them.
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > > >From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading
> > > > >Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:33:55 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:32:29 -0600 LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > My odometer "turned" this today while I was driving west to a
> > >meeting.
> > > > > > Having taken the digital camera with me in anticipation of this
> > > > > > turn-of-events, just had to pull onto the shoulder of the
> highway
> > >and
> > > > > > snap a photo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But ... the odometer reading is not really true, since a new one
> was
> > > > put
> > > > > > in by 240D's previous owner at ~88,000 miles.
> > > > >
> > > > >Nevertheless, it's very interesting.
> > > > >
> > > > >I guess my recent 224466 comes in a distant second. (I took a
> picture,
> > > > but
> > > > >I won't bother to post it.)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Craig
> > > > >
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> '78 450SLC 67K, brown car
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Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading

[OK Don]

Numerologists! The lot of you!

I can never remember to catch moments like that - too busy driving, I guess.

On 1/20/06, Brian Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That is actually very cool. If I remember, I could catch that shot in a
> couple thou. Of course I won't. Great pic to share.
>
> Brian
>
> >From: LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading
> >Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:17:41 +
> >
> >Odometer reads 123456.
> >
> >On 1/21/06, Brian Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Pic didn't show up for me. What was the unique mileage?
> > >
> > > I remember when my Sportie turned 40k, I pulled over, let my dog (90 lbs
> > > worth) out of his riding compartment, and took a pic with the two of
> >them.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > >From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading
> > > >Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:33:55 -0700
> > > >
> > > >On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:32:29 -0600 LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > My odometer "turned" this today while I was driving west to a
> >meeting.
> > > > > Having taken the digital camera with me in anticipation of this
> > > > > turn-of-events, just had to pull onto the shoulder of the highway
> >and
> > > > > snap a photo.
> > > > >
> > > > > But ... the odometer reading is not really true, since a new one was
> > > put
> > > > > in by 240D's previous owner at ~88,000 miles.
> > > >
> > > >Nevertheless, it's very interesting.
> > > >
> > > >I guess my recent 224466 comes in a distant second. (I took a picture,
> > > but
> > > >I won't bother to post it.)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Craig
> > > >
> > > >___
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> >1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
> >
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'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go

Re: [MBZ] Our New Family Addition

[OK Don]

Congratulaions to you and your wife - take care of all of them!

On 1/20/06, Tan Qu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now this is a REAL family addition, not another
> addition to our MB fleet.-:)
>
> Our baby Isabella was born at 3:05PM Tuesday. All went
> well. Although this is our third child, she is just
> the best and I am so happy! I can't wait to see her
> when I get home tonight.
>
> Thought it is appropriate to share this on the list as
> I got to know many of you over the years not in person
> but over conversations on the list.
>
> Have a good weekend.
>
>
> Tan
>


--
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Norman, OK
'90 300D 243K, Rattled
'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go

Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading

[Brian Chase]

That is actually very cool. If I remember, I could catch that shot in a 
couple thou. Of course I won't. Great pic to share.


Brian


From: LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:17:41 +

Odometer reads 123456.

On 1/21/06, Brian Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Pic didn't show up for me. What was the unique mileage?
>
> I remember when my Sportie turned 40k, I pulled over, let my dog (90 lbs
> worth) out of his riding compartment, and took a pic with the two of 
them.

>
> Brian
>
> >From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading
> >Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:33:55 -0700
> >
> >On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:32:29 -0600 LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > My odometer "turned" this today while I was driving west to a 
meeting.

> > > Having taken the digital camera with me in anticipation of this
> > > turn-of-events, just had to pull onto the shoulder of the highway 
and

> > > snap a photo.
> > >
> > > But ... the odometer reading is not really true, since a new one was
> put
> > > in by 240D's previous owner at ~88,000 miles.
> >
> >Nevertheless, it's very interesting.
> >
> >I guess my recent 224466 comes in a distant second. (I took a picture,
> but
> >I won't bother to post it.)
> >
> >
> >Craig
> >
> >___
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Re: [MBZ] W210.025/OM606.962 delivery valves (finished!) -- HOWTO

[Harry Watkins]

A great write-up John.  I've done the job on an SDL and your instructions
would have been a treasure at that time.  It goes in my vault for future
use.

Thanks for taking the time to share.

Harry Watkins
Newton, MS
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans

- Original Message - 
From: "John W. Reames III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 4:50 PM
Subject: [MBZ] W210.025/OM606.962 delivery valves (finished!) -- HOWTO


> A few weeks ago I was asking about this job... I finished it, and it
> wasn't that bad (I'm kicking myself for not taking photos though!)
>
> It took me less than four hours for this job and that included running out
> to get the T-40. The 4 hours that the labor guide quotes is generous,
> certainly... If anyone has any thoughts/comments on this, lemme know.
>
>
>
> Parts:
> 7x 603 078 01 41 (Injection pipe clips)
> 7x 601 078 26 41 (Injection pipe shims--trim them on one side)
> 2x 601 078 26 41 (Injection pipe clips)
> 1x 606 141 01 80 (Intake manifold gasket)
>
> 6x 017 997 41 48 (Bosch 1-460-210-321 O-ring, you may want spares)
> 6x 004 997 45 40 (Bosch 1-410-105-021 Copper seal washer)
>  (These are the same rings as used on a 602 or 603 engine.)
>
> Tools:
> -8mm socket or nutrunner
> -10mm socket
> -6mm hex bit socket
> -T-30 socket
> -T-40 socket
> -13mm *special* crowsfoot 000 589 77 03 00
> -32/33 spline *special* socket 617 589 01 09 00
> -a dental pick or similar to aid in removal of seal rings and washers
> -some sort of zero residue aerosol cleaner (carb cleaner or electronics
> cleaner)
> -Torque wrenches capable of 10Nm -> 35Nm
> -A box of rags (like the ones they sell at home depot, "Scott" Brand)
> misc extensions and ratchets and adapters (3/8-1/2 bushing, 3/8-1/4
> reducer)
> -a can of clean oil (I used clear fine machine oil) or diesel fuel
>
> Instructions:
> -The first thing you want to do is jack the car up and remove at least the
> middle underpan (8mm hex head 4 places)
>
> -You will need to remove the bolt fastening the charge air cooler pipe to
> the EGR valve on the bottom of the intake manifold (Mine was missing!) as
> well as the clamp holding the EGR tube to the manifold/EGR valve (10mm
> bolt).
>
> -Put the car back down on the ground and remove the plastic oversheild on
> the valve cover (6mm hex bit, 8 screws)
>
> -Now is a good time to clean all the accumulated gunk off the top of the
> engine while everything is still closed up.
>
> -Remove the two 10mm bolts secureing the oil separator to the top of the
> engine (over #5 injector) and carefully remove the separator and breather
> tube. (You might want to stick a bit of rag into the open tube ends on the
> engine)
>
> -Remove the T-40 head manifold bolts (14 places, I think).  There is one
> hiding under the lifting eye back by #5 or #6.
>
> -Gently lift the manifold free, disconnecting the vacuum control line and
> the boost pressure sensing line from the valve.  Be cautious of the little
> plastic clamp on the boost line.  You may want to fill the manifold with
> some cleaner to let it soak while you work
>
> -Carefully slide the intake manifold gasket out (to the front of the
> engine), noting its orientation.
>
> -Stuff CLEAN lint-free rags into each intake ports and the intercooler
> pipe to keep crud out of them.
>
> -Clean off the top of the injection pump (carb cleaner, etc).
>
> -Make a diagram of where the injection lines go, and more importantly, how
> the various clips attach to them.  Take note of how the first two lines
> run around the low pressure fuel and injection bypass hoses.
>
> -Remove all of the clips from the injection lines. 80% or more will
> likely break.
>
> -Loosen the injection line nuts and remove the injection lines. The
> special crowsfoot (13mm) above really makes it much easier on the engine
> side.
>
> -Remove the three T-30 screws that secure the delivery valve lock rings to
> the injection pump.  Take note of how the lock rings are laying on the
> pump.
>
> -Remove all of the lock rings.
>
> -Clean the top of the IP again--pay special attention to around the
> delivery valves.
>
> ***
>
> -Using the special spline socket, loosen the first delivery
> valve holder.  Unscrew it by hand and SLOWLY lift the valve holder, being
> careful to not let the spring get lost/drop out or pull the valve from
> inside the pump.
>
> -Use the (CLEAN) pick to remove the copper seal ring from the top of the
> assembly that was under the valve holder.
>
> -Carefully lower a new copper seal ring onto the assembly. Try to keep the
> ring and assembly more or less centered within the bore
>
> -Remove the O-ring from the outside of the valve holder.  Use carb cleaner
> or similar to clean all the crud off the outside of the body (don't flush
> it inside!)
>
> -Fit a new O-Ring onto the delivery valve body. Put a few drops of oin on
> the threads of the valve and on each side of the O-Ring, ensuring that the
> ring is well-oi

Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading

[LT Don]

Odometer reads 123456.

On 1/21/06, Brian Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Pic didn't show up for me. What was the unique mileage?
>
> I remember when my Sportie turned 40k, I pulled over, let my dog (90 lbs
> worth) out of his riding compartment, and took a pic with the two of them.
>
> Brian
>
> >From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading
> >Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:33:55 -0700
> >
> >On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:32:29 -0600 LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > My odometer "turned" this today while I was driving west to a meeting.
> > > Having taken the digital camera with me in anticipation of this
> > > turn-of-events, just had to pull onto the shoulder of the highway and
> > > snap a photo.
> > >
> > > But ... the odometer reading is not really true, since a new one was
> put
> > > in by 240D's previous owner at ~88,000 miles.
> >
> >Nevertheless, it's very interesting.
> >
> >I guess my recent 224466 comes in a distant second. (I took a picture,
> but
> >I won't bother to post it.)
> >
> >
> >Craig
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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

[LT Don]

Rumor has it that Allah himself lurks on Banned, but that might be only a
rumor.

On 1/21/06, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> WOW!  we are that important to the High $$ gang?
>
>
> At 06:24 PM 1/20/2006, you wrote:
> >they do have spies over here.  I know this for a fact.
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Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading

[Brian Chase]

Pic didn't show up for me. What was the unique mileage?

I remember when my Sportie turned 40k, I pulled over, let my dog (90 lbs 
worth) out of his riding compartment, and took a pic with the two of them.


Brian


From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:33:55 -0700

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:32:29 -0600 LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My odometer "turned" this today while I was driving west to a meeting.
> Having taken the digital camera with me in anticipation of this
> turn-of-events, just had to pull onto the shoulder of the highway and
> snap a photo.
>
> But ... the odometer reading is not really true, since a new one was put
> in by 240D's previous owner at ~88,000 miles.

Nevertheless, it's very interesting.

I guess my recent 224466 comes in a distant second. (I took a picture, but
I won't bother to post it.)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading

[LT Don]

I wish, in retrospect, that I'd reset the trip odometer to show 123456 up
top and 1234 down below. But alas, I didn't have that much foresight.

On 1/21/06, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:32:29 -0600 LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > My odometer "turned" this today while I was driving west to a meeting.
> > Having taken the digital camera with me in anticipation of this
> > turn-of-events, just had to pull onto the shoulder of the highway and
> > snap a photo.
> >
> > But ... the odometer reading is not really true, since a new one was put
> > in by 240D's previous owner at ~88,000 miles.
>
> Nevertheless, it's very interesting.
>
> I guess my recent 224466 comes in a distant second. (I took a picture, but
> I won't bother to post it.)
>
>
> Craig
>
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Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading

[Loren Faeth]

I like that !

123456 + 88K is still just a pup at just over 200K

Hey Tom, you put a lot of miles on.  WHat is the highest mileage MB  (or 
other car) you have had?


At 08:32 PM 1/20/2006, you wrote:

My odometer "turned" this today while I was driving west to a meeting.
Having taken the digital camera with me in anticipation of this
turn-of-events, just had to pull onto the shoulder of the highway and snap a
photo.

But ... the odometer reading is not really true, since a new one was put in
by 240D's previous owner at ~88,000 miles.

Don


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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

[Loren Faeth]

WOW!  we are that important to the High $$ gang?


At 06:24 PM 1/20/2006, you wrote:

they do have spies over here.  I know this for a fact.

Re: [MBZ] unique odometer reading

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:32:29 -0600 LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My odometer "turned" this today while I was driving west to a meeting.
> Having taken the digital camera with me in anticipation of this
> turn-of-events, just had to pull onto the shoulder of the highway and
> snap a photo.
> 
> But ... the odometer reading is not really true, since a new one was put
> in by 240D's previous owner at ~88,000 miles.

Nevertheless, it's very interesting.

I guess my recent 224466 comes in a distant second. (I took a picture, but
I won't bother to post it.)


Craig

Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

thats their deal, people will just "dissappear" if they post something 
that the list owner may not like.  ITs quite strange.  If you mention 
rusty there, you can be assured to never post again.


Chris Kueny wrote:

I've been a member there longer than here, and the only downside was after 
defending Rusty and his service recently, I lost contact.  A quick email to 
another both-list guy confirmed that there were messages I was missing. 
Thought I had been booted until it came back up with some lame explanation 
that it was too hard to explain why it happened.  I wasn't the only one, 
tho.  It's a strange feeling I assure you.  As Kaleb said, there are some 
real cool people there as well as here.


Chris K
Cayce, SC




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Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances

[Bob Rentfro]

Heck, ya (said like Napoleon Dynamite) we have interesting people here!

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 148K
'01 VW Beetle TDI 61K
Litchfield Park, AZ


- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Kueny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances



I've been a member there longer than here, and the only downside was after
defending Rusty and his service recently, I lost contact.  A quick email 
to

another both-list guy confirmed that there were messages I was missing.
Thought I had been booted until it came back up with some lame explanation
that it was too hard to explain why it happened.  I wasn't the only one,
tho.  It's a strange feeling I assure you.  As Kaleb said, there are some
real cool people there as well as here.

Chris K
Cayce, SC



- Original Message - 
From: "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances



No action yet on my "application" sent last night. Maybe he IS monitoring
Banned.

On 1/21/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


for a new subscriber

Luther Gulseth wrote:

> never had to do it?  Gabriel?
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:20:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] R/E list disappearances
>
>
> and by the way, I think its insane to have to be approved to sign up
> for
> a list and be moderated at first.  Its stunts the growth of the list
> and
> puts everyone in a state of fear.  IF somebody signs up for this list
> and gets out of line they will be warned or booted, but never had to
> yet.  No reason to do it overthere either.  They act like their list 
> is

> just some sort of holy grail or something.  The power play between stu
> and easley was a nice touch.
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Re: [MBZ] Our New Family Addition

[Bob Rentfro]

Congrats...kids are swell.
Love them like mad.

Bob Rentfro

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From: "Tan Qu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:55 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Our New Family Addition



Now this is a REAL family addition, not another
addition to our MB fleet.-:)

Our baby Isabella was born at 3:05PM Tuesday. All went
well. Although this is our third child, she is just
the best and I am so happy! I can't wait to see her
when I get home tonight. 


Thought it is appropriate to share this on the list as
I got to know many of you over the years not in person
but over conversations on the list. 


Have a good weekend.


Tan 







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