[MBZ] ball park $$ for E300-320??
Hi Everyone, I'm new to the list, and I'm looking for an older Mercedes for both myself, and my Dad. LarryT had given me some good adivse so far. I was wonder what I should expect to pay for a either a sedan or wagon, late '80s to early 90's? Something with around 80,000-160,000 kms, I think that's about 60,000-110,000 in American. :-) I know it really depends on condition with an older car like this, but I'm just looking for ballpark, maybe High and Low end, but not Low end as a parts car, but drivable but requires a little cleaning up and sorting out. Thanks in advance for your thoughts. I'm enjoying all the posts and feel I'm learning already. Zeb
Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?
They are, every third set of pads, without fail so far. MB uses fairly thin rotors to reduce unsprung mass, frequent replacement is the trade-off. Given how well the brakes work, I have no problem. A set of rotors every 100,000 miles doesn't strike me as unreasonable. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
I would say overkill. On a diesel, the result of a clogged filter is merely a loss of power, no harm comes to the engine. Depends on the diesel! The non- common-rail 24-valve Cummins motor used by Dodge 'twixt 98 and '-2 (?) would eat the injection pump if the fuel filter clogged. It has a rotary fuel-lubricated pump, however. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Left Rear Wheel tilt outward
Just returned from a 70 mph drive and noticed no unusual noise, my good neighbor, noticed the left rear wheel is tilted inward, in other words the top of the wheel is tilted inward as the bottom is tilted outward by a couple of degrees. On our SDL this was caused by a bent trailing arm. Plenty of other potential causes, like broken springs, worn-out rubber pads, etc. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?
The frequency of change of rotors depends greatly on the type of pad used. The more aggressive the pad the less life the rotors will have. Some places advertise lifetime brake pads - that's because the rotors are being the sacrifical item. *Something* is going to wear and if the pads are lifetime, the rotors will not be. Having said that, the pads MB sells are a compromise - they dislike dealing with constant complaints about brake squealing so they sell soft brake pads - which give off a *lot* of brake dust. But they don't squeal and the service dept doesn't have to constantly explain why they are squealing. As far as selling the rotors and pads as sets - I suspect what others said about MBs desire to maximize profits has most to do with it. But there's no need to replace the rotors unless they are below the min thickness when measured with a micrometer (the easiest IMO). Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: "John Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:25 AM Subject: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors? Friends, why does MB sell the pads and rotors together- is it a good thing to do these together? I was going to have the dealer do brake pads and he only does them together. Is this a money robbing exercise or is there some merit to changing both at the same time? John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 84k Kingston, RI Royce Engler wrote: Gentlemen... I decided to replace the front disks on the shaggin wagin, ordered the new ones from Rusty, and just for fun, since I hadn't done it in a while, read the manual. Do you really have to replace the "self locking hex socket bolts" that say "one time use only"? When I did the job on my old 240D (RIP), I don't think I put in new bolts. In any case, they are not listed on Rusty's web site, which tells me it's not a high volume item. OBTW...Since switching to Mobil1, I'm up to 26MPG on my last fillup. Admittedly, the fact that the A/C is temporarily dead may have added 1 or 2, but I'm impressed. My daily commute is now 30 miles each way, all freeway, with less than 1/2 mile from the house/office to the on/off ramp. Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 285K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.3/530 - Release Date: 11/11/2006
Re: [MBZ] photographer of the week
Good thing he over-exposed those shots, or we'd probably see daylight through the "some rust problems". On 11/11/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And I thought the Frankenheap (same car, in gray) was rusty! Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state" '87 300TD intercooler/propane injection #22 (219k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] removing tank screen
I haven't tried a 126, but the 107 took a 1 13/16" socket. I took the new one to Sears, and this was the only socket that fit it. I then hadto grind down the outside diameter to get it into the hole - the screem was off-center in the hole in the bottom of the trunk, and wouldn't let the socket get on square enough to turn the screen. On 11/12/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: After removing the big line from the tank (this is a gas 126), I assume you just unscrew the big fitting for the tank screen? What I need to know, what size socket do you need to remove the tank screen? -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives." Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] SDL radiator flush
I'd like to know more about this machine as well - On 11/12/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK, so do tell, I would like one of these 24 machines maybe. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives." Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Left Rear Wheel tilt outward
Mitch: Just check the SLS reservoir and it's at the full mark... Had the sub frames checked about a year ago, it was fine alone with new differential mounts . If drive fine and steers well and will try the zig-zig tomorrow . hope, I am not pulled over for drunk driving Bill 1981 300 TD Mitch Haley wrote: Bill Gallagher wrote: Mitch: It is a wagon. SLS is what? How about the 400 mile trip? TIA If everything seems tight and it doesn't ride like a buckboard, I'd make sure the SLS reservoir is full of the proper hydraulic fluid and go. I forgot a more likely problem, I believe the wagon has the same sort of rear subframe mounts as the sedans. I'd get it up to speed and do a little zig-zag. If the back end wants to steer itself instead of following along politely, then it's probably past time for the subframe to body mounts (and may as well do the differential to subframe mounts too). Even if it self-steers a bit, a long trip should be no more hazardous than a local trip, just keep it in mind if your handling gets funky under hard cornering. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Left Rear Wheel tilt outward
Bill Gallagher wrote: > > Mitch: > It is a wagon. SLS is what? > > How about the 400 mile trip? TIA If everything seems tight and it doesn't ride like a buckboard, I'd make sure the SLS reservoir is full of the proper hydraulic fluid and go. I forgot a more likely problem, I believe the wagon has the same sort of rear subframe mounts as the sedans. I'd get it up to speed and do a little zig-zag. If the back end wants to steer itself instead of following along politely, then it's probably past time for the subframe to body mounts (and may as well do the differential to subframe mounts too). Even if it self-steers a bit, a long trip should be no more hazardous than a local trip, just keep it in mind if your handling gets funky under hard cornering. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Left Rear Wheel tilt outward
Self levelling suspension.
Re: [MBZ] Left Rear Wheel tilt outward
Mitch: It is a wagon. SLS is what? How about the 400 mile trip? TIA Bill 1981 300 TD Mitch Haley wrote: Bill Gallagher wrote: Just returned from a 70 mph drive and noticed no unusual noise, my good neighbor, noticed the left rear wheel is tilted inward, in other words the top of the wheel is tilted inward as the bottom is tilted outward by a couple of degrees. And it's a wagon? Isn't negative camber one symptom of a droopy SLS? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Left Rear Wheel tilt outward
Bill Gallagher wrote: > > Just returned from a 70 mph drive and noticed no unusual noise, my good > neighbor, noticed the left rear wheel is tilted inward, in other words > the top of the wheel is tilted inward as the bottom is tilted outward by > a couple of degrees. And it's a wagon? Isn't negative camber one symptom of a droopy SLS? Mitch.
[MBZ] Left Rear Wheel tilt outward
Just returned from a 70 mph drive and noticed no unusual noise, my good neighbor, noticed the left rear wheel is tilted inward, in other words the top of the wheel is tilted inward as the bottom is tilted outward by a couple of degrees. I jacked the car up and the wheel has no movement when I kicked the top or sides, taking a quick peek underneath, it's raining in Boston, saw no abnormals .had the rear wheel bearings replaced about 6 months ago and just on big pot holes or angle approaches to the driveway, would hear a slight tension sound coming from the rear ..Maybe it finally broke ... Plan on taking a 400 mile trip this Friday, wear the tire a bit, but am concern about causing additional sever damage... minor damage will not bother me TIA Bill 1981 300 TD
Re: [MBZ] Water Wetter
I agree but the stuff only works if you have a heat problem. Water Wetter will not drop your temperature below your thermostat temperature. But, if you have a heat problem & it's not a known design flaw with the car then the best solution is to ID & fix the cause instead of adding something to help with cooling. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Peterson Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Water Wetter I had the Redline water wetter in my Saab- it did drop the temp by a noticeable amount at idle in the summer. John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does that Wetter Water Redline stuff do anything? > > Regards Tom Scordato > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] removing tank screen
After removing the big line from the tank (this is a gas 126), I assume you just unscrew the big fitting for the tank screen? What I need to know, what size socket do you need to remove the tank screen? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
In a message dated 11/12/2006 5:36:22 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have ben changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. Tom, I would say overkill. On a diesel, the result of a clogged filter is merely a loss of power, no harm comes to the engine. Leaning out a gas engine, on the other hand, can burn a valve or fry a piston. I always try to carry a spare filter, as one bad load of fuel can clog a filter, even the day after you change it! I change mine at about 30,000 miles and have only been slowed once on a trip, in over 500,000 miles of diesel travel. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 146 K miles
Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?
For my 123 those rotors were amazingly inexpensive, too. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors? Over the last ten years, mine go two pad changes -- on the third, the rotors are too thin. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?
Over the last ten years, mine go two pad changes -- on the third, the rotors are too thin. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?
Mercedes rotors are never to be turned. If they get warped or wear down, they are to be replaced. Royce Engler wrote: Rusty sells 'em separately, but I think the dealer will too...the underlying question is if you are having him do the pads, why does he insist on doing the rotor also. The only time you **have** to change rotors is when they wear down to less than minimum thickness and can't be turned. I suppose they should be turned every time you do the pads, but I generally don't. Sounds like a money robbing exercise to me Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 285K -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?
they are robbing money. Disks will last thru many sets of brake pads unless you run them down to the metal and they damage the rotor. John Peterson wrote: Friends, why does MB sell the pads and rotors together- is it a good thing to do these together? I was going to have the dealer do brake pads and he only does them together. Is this a money robbing exercise or is there some merit to changing both at the same time? John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 84k Kingston, RI -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
its overkill unless you ran into some bad fuel. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have ben changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1979 240D 102K miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Car Fax
mine has expired MICHAEL ESH wrote: Could someone please run a CarFax for WDBAB23A6DB415136 Thanks in advance, Mike in Michigan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 123 Dash
u, Rusty Michael Hall wrote: Anyone have a source for a NEW 123 dash? We have a customer who wants to put a new one in his 1980 300D - he didn't flinch at the $8xx dealer price, but they say none are available in the US or Germany! That can't be right, can it? If no new ones are available, he would consider a used one in like-new condition. TIA, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] SDL radiator flush
OK, so do tell, I would like one of these 24 machines maybe. Luther wrote: I purchased a Prestone Flush and Fill Machine that checks coolant system pressure, flushes the system with water, flushes with water and air agitation, and fills the coolant from a graduated reservoir. Flushed the radiator for nearly an hour with air and water until the red flakes were no more. Now I've been running an acid flush continually through it. I'm adding hot water into it to see if I can feel an even temp change across the radiator. If so, I'll re-install it into the car and drive it and check if it still over heats. That coolant machine might be one of the best $25 investments I've made. And I happen to know where there are more like it -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?
Benz rotors need to be replaced every third pad change (that is, you can run two sets of pads on them). They cannot be turned -- by the time you get them smooth, they are almost always too thin, and this will cause the pistons to seize in the calipers before the friction material is worn out on the older dual piston calipers. Not good Newer models go further, but on the W124 and earlier models, you can expect new pads every 30,000 miles or so depending on driving conditions and new rotors every 90,000 in the front. Rears should last at least twice as long. Peter
Re: [MBZ] New front discs...
I just used loc-tite (blue stuff) on the old bolts and reinstalled at the correct torque. On 11/12/06, Royce Engler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gentlemen... I decided to replace the front disks on the shaggin wagin, ordered the new ones from Rusty, and just for fun, since I hadn't done it in a while, read the manual. Do you really have to replace the "self locking hex socket bolts" that say "one time use only"? When I did the job on my old 240D (RIP), I don't think I put in new bolts. In any case, they are not listed on Rusty's web site, which tells me it's not a high volume item. OBTW...Since switching to Mobil1, I'm up to 26MPG on my last fillup. Admittedly, the fact that the A/C is temporarily dead may have added 1 or 2, but I'm impressed. My daily commute is now 30 miles each way, all freeway, with less than 1/2 mile from the house/office to the on/off ramp. Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 285K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
I have been changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. I think the manual is closer to right than you are on this one. Unless you are having problems with clogging filters. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?
Friends, why does MB sell the pads and rotors together- is it a good thing to do these together? I was going to have the dealer do brake pads and he only does them together. Is this a money robbing exercise or is there some merit to changing both at the same time? It has to do with avoiding any chance of warranty callbacks. Not quite thievery, but often _completely_ unnecessary. Rotors should be replaced if they throb or are too thin or chewed up, not otherwise. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?
It actually is a good thing to do these together considering the cost. Chances are pad and rotor sets are cheaper than they are if sold separate. Not always necessary to replace the rotors unless you are on your second or third set of pads. Also if there is considerable wear on the rotor or its warped its best to just replace it Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 8:25 AM Subject: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors? Friends, why does MB sell the pads and rotors together- is it a good thing to do these together? I was going to have the dealer do brake pads and he only does them together. Is this a money robbing exercise or is there some merit to changing both at the same time? John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 84k Kingston, RI Royce Engler wrote: > Gentlemen... > > I decided to replace the front disks on the shaggin wagin, ordered the new > ones from Rusty, and just for fun, since I hadn't done it in a while, read > the manual. Do you really have to replace the "self locking hex socket > bolts" that say "one time use only"? When I did the job on my old 240D > (RIP), I don't think I put in new bolts. In any case, they are not listed > on Rusty's web site, which tells me it's not a high volume item. > > OBTW...Since switching to Mobil1, I'm up to 26MPG on my last fillup. > Admittedly, the fact that the A/C is temporarily dead may have added 1 or 2, > but I'm impressed. My daily commute is now 30 miles each way, all freeway, > with less than 1/2 mile from the house/office to the on/off ramp. > > Royce Engler > 1985 300TD Turbo 285K > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?
Rusty sells 'em separately, but I think the dealer will too...the underlying question is if you are having him do the pads, why does he insist on doing the rotor also. The only time you **have** to change rotors is when they wear down to less than minimum thickness and can't be turned. I suppose they should be turned every time you do the pads, but I generally don't. Sounds like a money robbing exercise to me Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 285K -Original Message- From: John Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 8:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors? Friends, why does MB sell the pads and rotors together- is it a good thing to do these together? I was going to have the dealer do brake pads and he only does them together. Is this a money robbing exercise or is there some merit to changing both at the same time? John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 84k Kingston, RI
Re: [MBZ] SDL radiator flush
Well, it cannot hurt to get the sawdust out That wood "powder" stop leak stuff should be outlawed, it causes more trouble than it fixes. Do yourself a favor and pressurize it fully before driving the car -- you do NOT want to find out it has pinholes by overheating it and cracking the head Peter
[MBZ] Water Wetter
I had the Redline water wetter in my Saab- it did drop the temp by a noticeable amount at idle in the summer. John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does that Wetter Water Redline stuff do anything? Regards Tom Scordato ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?
Friends, why does MB sell the pads and rotors together- is it a good thing to do these together? I was going to have the dealer do brake pads and he only does them together. Is this a money robbing exercise or is there some merit to changing both at the same time? John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 84k Kingston, RI Royce Engler wrote: Gentlemen... I decided to replace the front disks on the shaggin wagin, ordered the new ones from Rusty, and just for fun, since I hadn't done it in a while, read the manual. Do you really have to replace the "self locking hex socket bolts" that say "one time use only"? When I did the job on my old 240D (RIP), I don't think I put in new bolts. In any case, they are not listed on Rusty's web site, which tells me it's not a high volume item. OBTW...Since switching to Mobil1, I'm up to 26MPG on my last fillup. Admittedly, the fact that the A/C is temporarily dead may have added 1 or 2, but I'm impressed. My daily commute is now 30 miles each way, all freeway, with less than 1/2 mile from the house/office to the on/off ramp. Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 285K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New front discs...
Gentlemen... I decided to replace the front disks on the shaggin wagin, ordered the new ones from Rusty, and just for fun, since I hadn't done it in a while, read the manual. Do you really have to replace the "self locking hex socket bolts" that say "one time use only"? When I did the job on my old 240D (RIP), I don't think I put in new bolts. In any case, they are not listed on Rusty's web site, which tells me it's not a high volume item. OBTW...Since switching to Mobil1, I'm up to 26MPG on my last fillup. Admittedly, the fact that the A/C is temporarily dead may have added 1 or 2, but I'm impressed. My daily commute is now 30 miles each way, all freeway, with less than 1/2 mile from the house/office to the on/off ramp. Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 285K
[MBZ] Fuel filter changes
I have ben changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1979 240D 102K miles
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Coolant Flushes
Luther you run the one with the inhibitor or the stuff meant for diesels without inhibitor please. I might give it a whirl Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1979 240D - Original Message - From: "Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Coolant Flushes Absolutely. I have it in my '82 300CD which tended to run in the 95-98 degree range and it now won't budge above 90 in normal driving. On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:59:20 -0600, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does that Wetter Water Redline stuff do anything? Regards Tom Scordato -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] photographer of the week
And I thought the Frankenheap (same car, in gray) was rusty! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Project to tickle your brains with..
I tried the oft-suggested trick of wedging something between the module and the cover, and it was always just a temporary fix. Yeah, you need to clean the contact pins, _and_ clean and close down the sockets too, which requires disassembling the piece that bolts to the fender. Contact cleaner is also a good idea. Takes a bit of time. -- Jim
