Re: [MBZ] Audio software for OS X (was: vista / Final Cut Pro)
I have 100s of hours of experience with both Cool Edit Pro (now Adobe Audition) and Sound Forge. Still have original CD's of both that I still install anytime that I need audio editing. Both are quality programs that do most anything the average audiophile would need. I mostly used them for recording/editing/production of over 50 live concerts and several studio recorded CDs during college. As already said, you must have a good analog/digital converter to make the highest quality recording. If you have ears like mine, you'll be spending $500+. Try http://www.echoaudio.com. I have used several of their older cards. Ok, after a bit of browsing and drooling, it seems the AudioFire2 and 4 are priced under that $500 tag I said eariler. Retailing at $199 and $299 with Tracktion bundled, that is a fairly good deal to get started in home pc/mac recording. I've just finished downloading the demo, and will report back about it's quality and features. Luther On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:54:08 -0500, Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> --- Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > Anyone have firsthand experience with any audio capture software? >> > One of the things I would like to do is capture a lot of analog >> > audio I have (vinyl LPs, tapes) into MP3s or whatever digital >> > format my iPod understands. > >> > Can a Mac running OS X do this out of >> > the box? Or what hardware/software would I need? > > Dan wrote: > >> Garage Band would do this nicely, and also allow you >> to tweak/filter/whatever should you choose to. Most >> Macs have digital and line in jacks, so connecting >> things is rarely an issue. Should it be, there are >> plenty of audio interface devices out there to do it. > >> The other option would be Audacity, which is a >> freeware Mac program that will allow you to capture, >> save and convert audio files of just about any kind. > >> MacDan > > What Dan said. > > Keep in mind that you will almost certainly need a preamp for the > turntable. It will be putting out mic-level signal that needs massive > EQ to work correctly. A stereo reciever with a "phono" input will do > this. If you don't have one of those already, there are some > stand-alone phono pre-amps. > > Using the analog line input on the Mac will probably work. Sometimes > there will be a buzz caused by the power difference between the > computer and the turntable/preamp/receiver. Audio transformers are one > way to fix this. Or, get an external audio-USB interface. Roland, > Griffin, and M-Audio are a few folks that make such devices. Prices > start at about $40 US for a Griffin iMic. I believe you can spend more > than $5,000 US for a studio-grade multi-track unit. > > Audacity is an audio editing program that is open-source and > cost-free. It runs on Mac, Windows, Linux, Solaris, etc. It can > record, but it's strength is cutting, trimming, effects, etc. > > A simple recorder is "Audio Recorder" > http://versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/17392 > > I really liked Coaster, but it doesn't work in OS X or Classic... > > -- Philip > -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Audio software for OS X (was: vista / Final Cut Pro)
Converting my vinyl has been on my list for many years. Probably will be a few more. Got some good stuff just waiting. Most only played once or twice to transfer to tape. all have the cello still on the jacket. Black Sabbath, Moody Blues, ELP, Chicago and a bunch more. Good to know what I need. Thanks Dan! At 11:54 PM 7/18/2007, you wrote: > > --- Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Anyone have firsthand experience with any audio capture software? > > > One of the things I would like to do is capture a lot of analog > > > audio I have (vinyl LPs, tapes) into MP3s or whatever digital > > > format my iPod understands. > > > > Can a Mac running OS X do this out of > > > the box? Or what hardware/software would I need? > >Dan wrote: > > > Garage Band would do this nicely, and also allow you > > to tweak/filter/whatever should you choose to. Most > > Macs have digital and line in jacks, so connecting > > things is rarely an issue. Should it be, there are > > plenty of audio interface devices out there to do it. > > > The other option would be Audacity, which is a > > freeware Mac program that will allow you to capture, > > save and convert audio files of just about any kind. > > > MacDan > >What Dan said. > >Keep in mind that you will almost certainly need a preamp for the >turntable. It will be putting out mic-level signal that needs massive >EQ to work correctly. A stereo reciever with a "phono" input will do >this. If you don't have one of those already, there are some >stand-alone phono pre-amps. > >Using the analog line input on the Mac will probably work. Sometimes >there will be a buzz caused by the power difference between the >computer and the turntable/preamp/receiver. Audio transformers are one >way to fix this. Or, get an external audio-USB interface. Roland, >Griffin, and M-Audio are a few folks that make such devices. Prices >start at about $40 US for a Griffin iMic. I believe you can spend more >than $5,000 US for a studio-grade multi-track unit. > >Audacity is an audio editing program that is open-source and >cost-free. It runs on Mac, Windows, Linux, Solaris, etc. It can >record, but it's strength is cutting, trimming, effects, etc. > >A simple recorder is "Audio Recorder" >http://versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/17392 > >I really liked Coaster, but it doesn't work in OS X or Classic... > >-- Philip > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT a good quote
I just came across this, and I think it is a great quote by a great man "Bull" Halsey. "the country owes no man a living. It owes every man a chance to make a living. And don't let America ever forget that." Quoted in a newspaper article, Honolulu Advertiser, September 25, 1945 http://www.ussmissouri.com/coll_HalseyHistory.htm Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Audio software for OS X (was: vista / Final Cut Pro)
> --- Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Anyone have firsthand experience with any audio capture software? > > One of the things I would like to do is capture a lot of analog > > audio I have (vinyl LPs, tapes) into MP3s or whatever digital > > format my iPod understands. > > Can a Mac running OS X do this out of > > the box? Or what hardware/software would I need? Dan wrote: > Garage Band would do this nicely, and also allow you > to tweak/filter/whatever should you choose to. Most > Macs have digital and line in jacks, so connecting > things is rarely an issue. Should it be, there are > plenty of audio interface devices out there to do it. > The other option would be Audacity, which is a > freeware Mac program that will allow you to capture, > save and convert audio files of just about any kind. > MacDan What Dan said. Keep in mind that you will almost certainly need a preamp for the turntable. It will be putting out mic-level signal that needs massive EQ to work correctly. A stereo reciever with a "phono" input will do this. If you don't have one of those already, there are some stand-alone phono pre-amps. Using the analog line input on the Mac will probably work. Sometimes there will be a buzz caused by the power difference between the computer and the turntable/preamp/receiver. Audio transformers are one way to fix this. Or, get an external audio-USB interface. Roland, Griffin, and M-Audio are a few folks that make such devices. Prices start at about $40 US for a Griffin iMic. I believe you can spend more than $5,000 US for a studio-grade multi-track unit. Audacity is an audio editing program that is open-source and cost-free. It runs on Mac, Windows, Linux, Solaris, etc. It can record, but it's strength is cutting, trimming, effects, etc. A simple recorder is "Audio Recorder" http://versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/17392 I really liked Coaster, but it doesn't work in OS X or Classic... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:51:51 +0930 "Hendrik Riessen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... but a golden rule when driving in the outback is to have enough > fuel to get to not the next fuel place but the one beyond that. Reason > being that sometimes a small outback fuel station may have shut down, > run out of fuel, or have another reason for not being able to supply > fuel. Sounds like our trip last January heading east on I-40 through eastern Arizona. Stopped at least two times looking for diesel and had to get back on the Interstate and hope we could make it to the next one. Finally found a old-time truck stop right on the Arizona/New Mexico state line. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] On topic: Clay's Shifter [was: Re: Way too much OT?]
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:28:26 -0700 Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Craig is my new hero, I am printing everything out and will have it > as reference matter while I cuss at the underside of Gump. Thanks for the compliment. My first post, with the step-by-step, is what you should print out. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] atomic SOMETHING
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:25:35 -0400 "Tony Wirtel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brought to you by Ebay, a Show Car... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Unique-1977-Ford-Mustang-II-Show-Car_W0QQitemZ160137678977QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6236QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > I thought these got crushed long ago. Especially in colors like those. Maybe that's why he says the color is rare ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality.
Someone sent that link to me a while back. They seem to have some nice stuff! They will be getting some of my money in the future. :-) Ed 300E On 18/07/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.armstrongtools.com/about/usa.jsp > > Luther, soon to be an Armstrong tool owner > > > On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:05:05 -0500, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Often times here, providing there is a head company address, it's not > > required to say where the product is produced. I find often when made in > the > > US, the tend to stamp it with pride. If no label, I tend to conclude > it's > > not US made. > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > > > > > -- > Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark > '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case > '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) > '82 300CD (166 kmi) > '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold > '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ??
To save yourself a lot of grief and frustration you are best to take it to a good mechanic who has the tools to test your machine. The O2 sensor can be tested, as well as fuel pressure and just about everything else. This saves you time and money in the long run. Just recently on the Ozbenz forum there was a fella who had trouble with his 180E which turned out to be broken wiring due to clumsy mechanics. Something like that can only be found with experience. We could sit here for weeks guessing and you could spend a lot of money replacing components, which may well not require replacment. I had stalling issues with my 190E which turned out to be a broken throttle return spring, thus not allowing the fuel cut off switch to activate, thus the system did not know that the foot is off the throttle and the system has to go into idle mode. You may have a dodgy RPM sensor and numerous other things could be your problem. Also we should not automatically assume that fuel is the problem, if you have ignition problems we could fully rebuild the fuel system and still have problems. A dodgy ignition system does feel very similar to fuel starvation symptons, loss of power, stalling, etc. So you can see that it is a very complex system that when working properly is a joy but when the gremilns bite, they bite hard. - Original Message - From: "Troy Kocher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ?? > > I haven't replaced the O2 sensor. Don't exactly know where to find it. > I'll see what I can dig up. . Your thought here is that once it warms up > it > begins behaving better? > > > > > I'll observe the operating temp more closely, but I believe it is at the > normal temp when it happens. . The only other think I've observed. This > actually happens intermittently, when coming to a stop it occasionally > 'coughs' briefly like it's not getting fuel. I haven't observed anything > that would lead me to a pattern here. Although in the three weeks since I > purchased it this whole issue has worsened. The morning issue has been > going on the last 5 days, but the overall coughing has been happening > since > I bought it. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ??
A meter can be used to verify that the reed is getting a signal & it can also check the coil but a meter can not verify the condition of the reed itself. Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Original Message From: E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 07/18/07 09:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ?? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I'd also be interested to know how to hook up a meter to check the reed. I recently bought a multi meter that reads dwell, but still learning how to use it. Ed 300E On 18/07/07, Troy Kocher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/18/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > There is a control pressure actuator attached to the side of the fuel > > distributor. A steel reed inside oscillates up and down, controlled by > the > > computer. Feedback from the oxygen sensor modifies the reed duty cycle. > > The > > duty cycle of the oscillation determines the control pressure to the > > bottom > > of the fuel distributor because the duty cycle changes the amount of > fuel > > that's allowed to pass through. The control pressure determines the fuel > > mixture. If this reed fails, as it did in one of my 300E's (twice, both > > times cracked), strange things happen because the system is no longer > > stable. It can stick open, stick closed or just not oscillate. > > > > If your fuel pressure is correct then I'd suspect this part. > > > > I'll talk to my mechanic about checking the fuel pressure. > Is there any way to determine the condition of the reed? > > > And Mitch is correct, the system does flow a lot of fuel. They do this for > 2 > > reasons. The first reason is that they actually use hydraulic pressure > > generated by the fuel flow, plus restriction (a pressure regulator), to > > control the system (mentioned above) and to do this, they have much more > > fuel flowing through the system than needed to maintain a steady control > > pressure. The second reason is to keep the fuel cool. The car would not > be > > running if you had a blockage in the tank, etc... > > > > Some have one fuel pump, some have 2. Both of my 1986 300E's had one. > > > > Earlier CIS systems did not a control pressure regulator. They depended > > entirely on the balance between the air flow sensor plate and a > calibrated > > internal spring to manage fuel flow. > > > > Thanks, > > Tom Hargrave > > www.kegkits.com > > 256-656-1924 > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality.
http://www.armstrongtools.com/about/usa.jsp Luther, soon to be an Armstrong tool owner On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:05:05 -0500, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Often times here, providing there is a head company address, it's not > required to say where the product is produced. I find often when made in the > US, the tend to stamp it with pride. If no label, I tend to conclude it's > not US made. > > Ed > 300E > > -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:40:34 -0500 "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Resetting the trip while moving hurts nothing. The real issue is that a > small plastic part inside disintegrates with age. It's been mentioned countless times on this list that resetting the trip odometer while in motion breaks things. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:45:25 -0500 Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, you can overdo it, especially chicken poop -- too much nitrogen > burns the roots off the tomato plant. > > Water it really well, should help revive it, but you may only get > leaves, no tomatoes -- I make that mistake once too. Yup, you get prize winning tomato PLANTS. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pushbutton unit interchange
Thanks Kaleb! Ed 300E On 18/07/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > there are 2 screws on the bottom of the wood panel, right above the > radio that screw upwards. Remove those and you can pull the wood panel, > you will then see the screws to remove the pbu > > E M wrote: > > What is the best way to remove the unit. I've looked at it and can't > find > > any bolts or screws. I'm use to other cars that don't go to the trouble > > Benz has to hide the unsightly bits. hee hee > > > > Ed > > 300E > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, > 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.T. Getting My iTunes from a Desktop to a Laptop
Sweet... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O.T. Getting My iTunes from a Desktop to a Laptop "Robert Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My fine company saw fit to give me a Dell Inspireon on which to keep class > information. I want to load my iTune Library from my desktop onto this > laptop. What is the easiest way to accomplish this? http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/store/move/ -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pushbutton unit interchange
there are 2 screws on the bottom of the wood panel, right above the radio that screw upwards. Remove those and you can pull the wood panel, you will then see the screws to remove the pbu E M wrote: > What is the best way to remove the unit. I've looked at it and can't find > any bolts or screws. I'm use to other cars that don't go to the trouble > Benz has to hide the unsightly bits. hee hee > > Ed > 300E -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pushbutton unit interchange
yes Peter Frederick wrote: > I need to verify that the pushbutton unit on the '88 TE is bad -- can I > interchange it with one from a sedan for testing? > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pushbutton unit interchange
What is the best way to remove the unit. I've looked at it and can't find any bolts or screws. I'm use to other cars that don't go to the trouble Benz has to hide the unsightly bits. hee hee Ed 300E On 18/07/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You should be able to. > > Better yet, resolder the boards in it. 90% chance it > will work. > > Dan > > > --- Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I need to verify that the pushbutton unit on the '88 > > TE is bad -- can I > > interchange it with one from a sedan for testing? > > > > Peter > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ??
I'd also be interested to know how to hook up a meter to check the reed. I recently bought a multi meter that reads dwell, but still learning how to use it. Ed 300E On 18/07/07, Troy Kocher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/18/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > There is a control pressure actuator attached to the side of the fuel > > distributor. A steel reed inside oscillates up and down, controlled by > the > > computer. Feedback from the oxygen sensor modifies the reed duty cycle. > > The > > duty cycle of the oscillation determines the control pressure to the > > bottom > > of the fuel distributor because the duty cycle changes the amount of > fuel > > that's allowed to pass through. The control pressure determines the fuel > > mixture. If this reed fails, as it did in one of my 300E's (twice, both > > times cracked), strange things happen because the system is no longer > > stable. It can stick open, stick closed or just not oscillate. > > > > If your fuel pressure is correct then I'd suspect this part. > > > > I'll talk to my mechanic about checking the fuel pressure. > Is there any way to determine the condition of the reed? > > > And Mitch is correct, the system does flow a lot of fuel. They do this for > 2 > > reasons. The first reason is that they actually use hydraulic pressure > > generated by the fuel flow, plus restriction (a pressure regulator), to > > control the system (mentioned above) and to do this, they have much more > > fuel flowing through the system than needed to maintain a steady control > > pressure. The second reason is to keep the fuel cool. The car would not > be > > running if you had a blockage in the tank, etc... > > > > Some have one fuel pump, some have 2. Both of my 1986 300E's had one. > > > > Earlier CIS systems did not a control pressure regulator. They depended > > entirely on the balance between the air flow sensor plate and a > calibrated > > internal spring to manage fuel flow. > > > > Thanks, > > Tom Hargrave > > www.kegkits.com > > 256-656-1924 > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.T. Getting My iTunes from a Desktop to a Laptop
"Robert Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My fine company saw fit to give me a Dell Inspireon on which to keep class > information. I want to load my iTune Library from my desktop onto this > laptop. What is the easiest way to accomplish this? http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/store/move/ -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] What an idea!
Nice iPod case. http://hideapod.com/ MacDan Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 380 Ignition module
Kaleb, What do I owe you for the 380SL ignition module? DO you want to trade for a couple of 125 wheels and freight and $7? On the SDL, I need to figure out what is going to happen with it pretty soon. Did you plan to sell it whole, or part it out? If you were going to part it out, then I might want to keep a few things off it. It is taking up garage space. Do you have a trans for a 87 124 300D? or a trans and driveshaft? Wanna buy my 300D and I'll buy your 300D 2.5 on ebay? It runs good, and I have been fixing up a lot of things. The trans has started leaking fluid at the front. I am guessing the front seal. It IS smoke silver and Burgundy! The driver's door is dinged, and there is a ding below the trunk lid. Front seat covers were cracked, but I spent big bucks for new sheepskins for the front. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pushbutton unit interchange
You should be able to. Better yet, resolder the boards in it. 90% chance it will work. Dan --- Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I need to verify that the pushbutton unit on the '88 > TE is bad -- can I > interchange it with one from a sedan for testing? > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Pushbutton unit interchange
I need to verify that the pushbutton unit on the '88 TE is bad -- can I interchange it with one from a sedan for testing? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ??
Your mechanic should have enough experience to check both. If he does not then you are taking the car to the wrong mechanic. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Troy Kocher Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ?? On 7/18/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is a control pressure actuator attached to the side of the fuel > distributor. A steel reed inside oscillates up and down, controlled by the > computer. Feedback from the oxygen sensor modifies the reed duty cycle. > The > duty cycle of the oscillation determines the control pressure to the > bottom > of the fuel distributor because the duty cycle changes the amount of fuel > that's allowed to pass through. The control pressure determines the fuel > mixture. If this reed fails, as it did in one of my 300E's (twice, both > times cracked), strange things happen because the system is no longer > stable. It can stick open, stick closed or just not oscillate. > > If your fuel pressure is correct then I'd suspect this part. I'll talk to my mechanic about checking the fuel pressure. Is there any way to determine the condition of the reed? And Mitch is correct, the system does flow a lot of fuel. They do this for 2 > reasons. The first reason is that they actually use hydraulic pressure > generated by the fuel flow, plus restriction (a pressure regulator), to > control the system (mentioned above) and to do this, they have much more > fuel flowing through the system than needed to maintain a steady control > pressure. The second reason is to keep the fuel cool. The car would not be > running if you had a blockage in the tank, etc... > > Some have one fuel pump, some have 2. Both of my 1986 300E's had one. > > Earlier CIS systems did not a control pressure regulator. They depended > entirely on the balance between the air flow sensor plate and a calibrated > internal spring to manage fuel flow. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ??
On 7/18/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is a control pressure actuator attached to the side of the fuel > distributor. A steel reed inside oscillates up and down, controlled by the > computer. Feedback from the oxygen sensor modifies the reed duty cycle. > The > duty cycle of the oscillation determines the control pressure to the > bottom > of the fuel distributor because the duty cycle changes the amount of fuel > that's allowed to pass through. The control pressure determines the fuel > mixture. If this reed fails, as it did in one of my 300E's (twice, both > times cracked), strange things happen because the system is no longer > stable. It can stick open, stick closed or just not oscillate. > > If your fuel pressure is correct then I'd suspect this part. I'll talk to my mechanic about checking the fuel pressure. Is there any way to determine the condition of the reed? And Mitch is correct, the system does flow a lot of fuel. They do this for 2 > reasons. The first reason is that they actually use hydraulic pressure > generated by the fuel flow, plus restriction (a pressure regulator), to > control the system (mentioned above) and to do this, they have much more > fuel flowing through the system than needed to maintain a steady control > pressure. The second reason is to keep the fuel cool. The car would not be > running if you had a blockage in the tank, etc... > > Some have one fuel pump, some have 2. Both of my 1986 300E's had one. > > Earlier CIS systems did not a control pressure regulator. They depended > entirely on the balance between the air flow sensor plate and a calibrated > internal spring to manage fuel flow. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean
hahaha, yea, no need to bring that all up again. LWB250 wrote: > Uh, sorry, no. > > We don't talk about the 420 in mixed company, as it > ended up being the "car from Hell." > > 'nuf said. > > Dan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ??
On 7/18/07, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Cold enrichment is more for idling than when the car is in motion. > I am not 100% up to speed on the last versions of the CIS/E system but the > basis of all CIS/E systems is that even without any electric input they > continue to work. That is why MB was so reluctant to let go of the sytem, > even when just about everyone else went to full electric fuel injection > (which MB did in 93/94). > However every CIS system needs fuel pressure to work, if your fuel > pressure > is wrong then it may give the impression of fuel stavation. > http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi/timing2.htm at the bottom of this page > is > a basic layout of the KE (CIS/E) system > http://covintechnical.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tech_2.htm > http://ffp-motorsport.com/tuning/kejetronic.php > http://web.archive.org/web/20060104183213/mb.braingears.com/ have a dig > around in here for tech stuff > > How long since you checked your O2 sensor, maybe when it gets to operating > temp it starts to send out bad vibes to the computer. I haven't replaced the O2 sensor. Don't exactly know where to find it. I'll see what I can dig up. . Your thought here is that once it warms up it begins behaving better? It may be possible to diconnect it to see if there is any change. > Blocked fuel tank? I would say no because the symptons would not be so > regular and would repeat themselves during the course of driving. It has > to > be remebered that the CIS system pumps a lot of fuel with something like > 90% > being returned to the tank. > This is the same reason I am not thinking blocked fuel strainer and/or > fuel > filters. > "My theory is there is enough fuel in the pump and line to get us the > 1.5 mile. But at that point the pump must take over, and for whatever > reason it is struggling. Either the filter is occluded, or their is air > getting into the system. I understand from my mechanic that this car has > two fuel pumps, and they are known for causing issues." > Sounds good on paper but when you realise the amount of fuel that is > pumped > through the system > If air gets into the sytem you would have a fuel leak. > If you have fuel pump issues then the problem would not be so regular but > more intermitten. > > Anyhow we need some more info before we can start to track down a likely > culprit, such as engine operating temp when the problem occurs, is the car > fine once it gets past the 1.5 mile mark and any other odd things that are > happening. I'll observe the operating temp more closely, but I believe it is at the normal temp when it happens. . The only other think I've observed. This actually happens intermittently, when coming to a stop it occasionally 'coughs' briefly like it's not getting fuel. I haven't observed anything that would lead me to a pattern here. Although in the three weeks since I purchased it this whole issue has worsened. The morning issue has been going on the last 5 days, but the overall coughing has been happening since I bought it. Has your mechanic checked the trouble codes? From about 88 on the CIS/E > system has self diagnostic abilities. > > - Original Message - > From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:36 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ?? > > > > > > > > Troy Kocher wrote: > >> > >> Listers, > >> > >> Recently my 'new' 300e seems to be having a fuel supply issue. . > >> > >> Each morning about 1.5 miles from home it begins to starve for fuel. > > > > Sounds like a cold enrichment system is shutting off too suddenly > > or too soon. > > > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean
No, its sitting in my driveway. I need to order a key for it from rusty. Somebody locked the key in the car!! E M wrote: > Yes, I'm up in Canada so it is a little far away. I did check your pictures > though and I like it. Getting a US car into Canada isn't a big deal these > days, but getting a Canadian into the US for a week is much harder! :-) > Are you using your 560 as regular transport these days? > > Ed > 300E -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] O.T. Getting My iTunes from a Desktop to a Laptop
My fine company saw fit to give me a Dell Inspireon on which to keep class information. I want to load my iTune Library from my desktop onto this laptop. What is the easiest way to accomplish this? Donkey Shirts Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leather care products
Thanks Dan. The leather car is garaged and most always out of the sun, so it's pretty much just maintaining it at it's current level. However, since the 300E came along, the Benz bug has really bit, so maybe there is an older car in the future for me that will require such a product to bring back ages leather. I'll be sure to tuck this message away. :-) Regards, Ed 300E On 18/07/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Forget the Eagle One for the upholstery. Use > Leatherique. The stuff is nothing short of amazing. > > Not that your interior would need it, but I have used > it to recover the nastiest, hardest leather from old > MBs that you ever saw. If you follow George's > instructions, you won't be disappointed. > > And the owners, George and Krystal are realy great > people who are car enthusiasts like us. They are very > accessible and responsive to any questions or > inquiries about their products. > > If you contact them, tell them I referred you (nothing > in this for me, I just like them to know that we're > getting the word out.) > > There are others on the list who are familiar with > their products, too. Fantastic stuff and worth every > penny. > > Dan > > > --- E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I must pick up a bottle of 303. Also, I must stock > > up on wax and especially > > Eagle One leater care as my auto store seems to stop > > carring a lot of stuff > > over the winter months. Even though I store the > > porsche over the winter, I > > still go out into the garage and wax it often to > > pass the time. Guess for > > most, there isn't much of a call for wax when > > there's a foot or two of snow > > on the ground. :-) > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > On 18/07/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I've become a big fan of 303. I use it on the > > plastic panels on the MB, > > > all > > > rubber, it even does a good job on metal. I also > > found it doesn;t smear > > > of > > > harm glass when I get overspray on it I can buff > > it until it polishes out. > > > Also, it does not contain any silicones which is a > > big problem when a car > > > is > > > repainted or used around cars being repainted . > > > > > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > > > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > > > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > > > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > > > Weber Carb Info > > http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > > > . > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "LWB250" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:16 PM > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drying cars. > > > > > > > > > > The 303 is expensive ($12-$16 for a 12 oz. spray > > > > bottle, I believe) but it lasts some time. The > > thing > > > > that's really great about it is that it has UV > > > > blockers in it, which as you would expect, are > > pretty > > > > important when it comes to boats > > > > > > > > Another alternative for things like dash pads is > > > > suntan lotion, believe it or not. That's what > > George > > > > of Leatherique recommends, and he's definitely > > an > > > > expert when it comes to maintaining/restoring > > interior > > > > materials. > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > --- E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> I have a bunch of 100% beach towels and also, > > some I > > > >> purchased from a salon, > > > >> which are small, but again, 100%. Thanks for > > the > > > >> 303 tips. > > > >> > > > >> Ed > > > >> 300E > > > >> > > > >> On 18/07/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > If you use towels rather than a chamois, > > never, > > > >> ever > > > >> > use fabric softener on them, as it causes > > > >> streaking. > > > >> > Also be sure you use 100% cotton towels, as > > > >> synthetics > > > >> > can actually scratch paint. > > > >> > > > > >> > I have a set of towels designated for nothing > > but > > > >> car > > > >> > drying. > > > >> > > > > >> > Also, something far better for your plastics > > and > > > >> > vinyl, especially if you live in a sunny > > climate - > > > >> 303 > > > >> > Protectant. You can find it at a boat supply > > > >> place > > > >> > like West Marine. Expensive, but probably > > the > > > >> best > > > >> > stuff you can put on plastic surfaces. No > > > >> silicones > > > >> > in it like ArmorAll. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Dan, a.k.a. "Mercedes Martha Stewart" > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > --- Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > Fabric Softener and Towels: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > If you use fabric softener in the dryer, > > you > > > >> will > > > >> > > find the absorbency > > > >> > > of towels will be greatly reduced. I used > > to > > > >> find > > > >> > > that those towels > > > >> > > would leave water droplets on my skin after > > > >> bathing. > > > >> > > Same thing > > > >> > > probably applies to soaking up water aft
Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve - OZ
Lucky dog. I live for the day I can go back to Oz. Used to visit Sydney, Brisbane and Perth annually. Occasionally a quick jaunt to Melbourne and Hobart, and a little time in the outback as well, as my rep there had relatives at a sheep station. Lots of fun. Dan (the Akubra is in the closet, ready to go!) --- Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I forgot that you are in OZ. I need to visit one > day. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:22 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles > on Reserve > > The problem with the 123 set up is that the little > wheel spins on the little > > shaft and what happens when you press the little > reset button while moving > is that you put extra pressure on the little wheel > which spins on the little > > shaft and eventually the little shaft turns but the > little wheel does not > and then you have to take the instrument cluster out > and do a very fiddly > job of repairing the little wheel so it turns with > the little shaft again. > Far as refuelling goes, nothing wrong with doing > what you do if there are > plenty of service stations along the way but I would > not recommend it when > you are not sure about fuel avaiability. I realise > the situation over there > is different to what we have here but a golden rule > when driving in the > outback is to have enough fuel to get to not the > next fuel place but the one > > beyond that. Reason being that sometimes a small > outback fuel station may > have shut down, run out of fuel, or have another > reason for not being able > to supply fuel. > > - Original Message - > From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" > > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:10 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles > on Reserve > > > > Resetting the trip while moving hurts nothing. The > real issue is that a > > small plastic part inside disintegrates with age. > > > > And as far as filling up when almost empty, I do > it all the time. I burn > > about 2 tanks of fuel a week & filling up when I > have to means I only have > > to stand in front of the pump twice a week, as > opposed to 3 or 4 times a > > week. > > > > Thanks, > > Tom Hargrave > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve
I forgot that you are in OZ. I need to visit one day. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve The problem with the 123 set up is that the little wheel spins on the little shaft and what happens when you press the little reset button while moving is that you put extra pressure on the little wheel which spins on the little shaft and eventually the little shaft turns but the little wheel does not and then you have to take the instrument cluster out and do a very fiddly job of repairing the little wheel so it turns with the little shaft again. Far as refuelling goes, nothing wrong with doing what you do if there are plenty of service stations along the way but I would not recommend it when you are not sure about fuel avaiability. I realise the situation over there is different to what we have here but a golden rule when driving in the outback is to have enough fuel to get to not the next fuel place but the one beyond that. Reason being that sometimes a small outback fuel station may have shut down, run out of fuel, or have another reason for not being able to supply fuel. - Original Message - From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve > Resetting the trip while moving hurts nothing. The real issue is that a > small plastic part inside disintegrates with age. > > And as far as filling up when almost empty, I do it all the time. I burn > about 2 tanks of fuel a week & filling up when I have to means I only have > to stand in front of the pump twice a week, as opposed to 3 or 4 times a > week. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ??
There is a control pressure actuator attached to the side of the fuel distributor. A steel reed inside oscillates up and down, controlled by the computer. Feedback from the oxygen sensor modifies the reed duty cycle. The duty cycle of the oscillation determines the control pressure to the bottom of the fuel distributor because the duty cycle changes the amount of fuel that's allowed to pass through. The control pressure determines the fuel mixture. If this reed fails, as it did in one of my 300E's (twice, both times cracked), strange things happen because the system is no longer stable. It can stick open, stick closed or just not oscillate. If your fuel pressure is correct then I'd suspect this part. And Mitch is correct, the system does flow a lot of fuel. They do this for 2 reasons. The first reason is that they actually use hydraulic pressure generated by the fuel flow, plus restriction (a pressure regulator), to control the system (mentioned above) and to do this, they have much more fuel flowing through the system than needed to maintain a steady control pressure. The second reason is to keep the fuel cool. The car would not be running if you had a blockage in the tank, etc... Some have one fuel pump, some have 2. Both of my 1986 300E's had one. Earlier CIS systems did not a control pressure regulator. They depended entirely on the balance between the air flow sensor plate and a calibrated internal spring to manage fuel flow. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ?? Cold enrichment is more for idling than when the car is in motion. I am not 100% up to speed on the last versions of the CIS/E system but the basis of all CIS/E systems is that even without any electric input they continue to work. That is why MB was so reluctant to let go of the sytem, even when just about everyone else went to full electric fuel injection (which MB did in 93/94). However every CIS system needs fuel pressure to work, if your fuel pressure is wrong then it may give the impression of fuel stavation. http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi/timing2.htm at the bottom of this page is a basic layout of the KE (CIS/E) system http://covintechnical.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tech_2.htm http://ffp-motorsport.com/tuning/kejetronic.php http://web.archive.org/web/20060104183213/mb.braingears.com/ have a dig around in here for tech stuff How long since you checked your O2 sensor, maybe when it gets to operating temp it starts to send out bad vibes to the computer. It may be possible to diconnect it to see if there is any change. Blocked fuel tank? I would say no because the symptons would not be so regular and would repeat themselves during the course of driving. It has to be remebered that the CIS system pumps a lot of fuel with something like 90% being returned to the tank. This is the same reason I am not thinking blocked fuel strainer and/or fuel filters. "My theory is there is enough fuel in the pump and line to get us the 1.5 mile. But at that point the pump must take over, and for whatever reason it is struggling. Either the filter is occluded, or their is air getting into the system. I understand from my mechanic that this car has two fuel pumps, and they are known for causing issues." Sounds good on paper but when you realise the amount of fuel that is pumped through the system If air gets into the sytem you would have a fuel leak. If you have fuel pump issues then the problem would not be so regular but more intermitten. Anyhow we need some more info before we can start to track down a likely culprit, such as engine operating temp when the problem occurs, is the car fine once it gets past the 1.5 mile mark and any other odd things that are happening. Has your mechanic checked the trouble codes? From about 88 on the CIS/E system has self diagnostic abilities. - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ?? > > > Troy Kocher wrote: >> >> Listers, >> >> Recently my 'new' 300e seems to be having a fuel supply issue. . >> >> Each morning about 1.5 miles from home it begins to starve for fuel. > > Sounds like a cold enrichment system is shutting off too suddenly > or too soon. > > Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscr
Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean
i washed my car once On 7/18/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not to take anything away from Meguire's, but if > you're really serious about good, consistent results, > buy 3M products. > > I have tried nearly every wax/cleaner/compound out > there over 20 years of detailing, and no matter how > good it is purported to be, the value/results ratio > with 3M is always the highest. > > I'm working on a detailing primer on my Web site - I > keep meaning to get the rest of it posted and I just > can't seem to find time to finish it (no pun > intended.) > > www.penoff.com > > The older non-clearcoat MB finishes are the ones that > really come back with proper care. I just found all > my 300SE (finny) detailing pics - I'll try and post > some of them. > > Dan > > > > --- E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Chuck, > > > > I didn't know it was mostly alcohol as I can't > > really smell it, was I was > > once told that how it kept older tires from cracking > > was that the > > formulation would draw the waxes in the rubber to > > the surface. I was > > looking for something better, but never sure what to > > use. thanks for the > > tip on the Meguier's #40. I was thinking of picking > > up some of their > > products as a few friends seem to think the waxes > > leave a little harder and > > more durable shine than Mother's, which is what I'm > > using now. > > > > Thanks again Chuck. > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > On 18/07/07, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Ed, > > > > > > You may have heard this before, but Armoral is > > mostly alcohol (I > > > think) and will dry out the surface, requiring its > > more frequent use > > > > > > For the vinyl surfaces, I use Meguier's #40 and > > have been very > > > satisfied. > > > > > > FWIW another $.02 worth and take care, > > > > > > Chuck > > > Phoenix AZ > > > > > > On Jul 18, 2007, at 11:14 AM, E M wrote: > > > > > > > Not sure if this is an open question to the > > list, but for what it's > > > > worth, I > > > > use Mother's brand products, mostly the liquid > > wax. I find it goes > > > > on, > > > > dries and comes off easy.. I don't think it's > > the hardest or longest > > > > lasting wax, but I like to wax my cars for fun > > and to relax, so > > > > that's not a > > > > big issue. And, it makes the cars smell nice. > > :-) I may try > > > > something a > > > > little harder and longer lasting once winter > > arrives. For leather, > > > > I LOVE > > > > Eagle One leather care. I've used it for about > > 15 years now and I > > > > think > > > > it's great! I use Armoral too, but I try to use > > it sparingly and > > > > will often > > > > cut it with a little water if I can't find the > > low sheen stuff. > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > 300E > > > > 911SC > > > > > > > > On 18/07/07, James Zavesky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> What product(s) do use? > > > >> > > > >> Thanks > > > >> > > > >> Jim > > > >> > > > >>> -Original Message- > > > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:26 PM > > > >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean > > > >>> > > > < > cars, I would have > > > >> thought > > > >>> he > > > would go down to the scout clean a car day > > and haggle them down > > > to 50c > > > >>> for a > > > complete detail inside and out.>> > > > > > > >>> First of all, there is no "d" in my name. As > > to cleaning my own > > > >>> cars, > > > >> you > > > >>> have no idea. I will put the cosmetic > > condition of either one up > > > >>> against > > > >>> ANY > > > >>> vehicle on this list. I have been a compulsive > > car cleaner since > > > >>> my very > > > >>> first > > > >>> car. When the P-car comes back from anyplace, > > it is washed and > > > >>> detailed > > > >>> inside > > > >>> and out before being covering in the garage. > > The black C320, being > > > >> driven > > > >>> nearly > > > >>> every day, is a lot more work to keep as > > clean and shiny as > > > >>> possible. > > > >>> But, > > > >>> after years of using this and that polish and > > wax, I have found the > > > >> brand > > > >>> that > > > >>> reduces the work needed and the time required. > > Use a commercial car > > > >> wash? > > > >>> Over my dead body. > > > >>> > > > >>> RLE > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> ** > > > >>> Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > > > >>> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > >>> ___ > > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > > >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> > > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go > > to: > > > >>> > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >
Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]
Most of the plantings at the home we built in Wisconsin died within the first year. Because we were on a bluff at the shoreline, the ground was heavy (and I mean HEAVY) clay. You could dig a hole, pour a bucket of water in it, and it would take literally weeks to drain (if the water didn't evaporate first.) I kid you not, I bent a shovel blade when trying to dig a hole in the stuff. I even used a hydraulic power auger to drill the holes for my deck footers, and I had to hang on the top of the auger arm to force it into the soil. Dan --- Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Probably too much water then, and poor drainage. > > Check the soil -- if soaked, you will have to find a > way to get the > water to drain. It should be damp, not full of > water. Do not water > unless the soil is quite dry and the leaves droop. > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]
Probably too much water then, and poor drainage. Check the soil -- if soaked, you will have to find a way to get the water to drain. It should be damp, not full of water. Do not water unless the soil is quite dry and the leaves droop. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve
The problem with the 123 set up is that the little wheel spins on the little shaft and what happens when you press the little reset button while moving is that you put extra pressure on the little wheel which spins on the little shaft and eventually the little shaft turns but the little wheel does not and then you have to take the instrument cluster out and do a very fiddly job of repairing the little wheel so it turns with the little shaft again. Far as refuelling goes, nothing wrong with doing what you do if there are plenty of service stations along the way but I would not recommend it when you are not sure about fuel avaiability. I realise the situation over there is different to what we have here but a golden rule when driving in the outback is to have enough fuel to get to not the next fuel place but the one beyond that. Reason being that sometimes a small outback fuel station may have shut down, run out of fuel, or have another reason for not being able to supply fuel. - Original Message - From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve > Resetting the trip while moving hurts nothing. The real issue is that a > small plastic part inside disintegrates with age. > > And as far as filling up when almost empty, I do it all the time. I burn > about 2 tanks of fuel a week & filling up when I have to means I only have > to stand in front of the pump twice a week, as opposed to 3 or 4 times a > week. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD vacuum shutoff issue
Just to the left of the oil filter is a yellow line that gets knocked about quite often when playing in that area. John On 7/18/07, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, it's happened to me! Pops decided to check the fluids yesterday in my > 300SD, and now, it won't shut off with the key. He mentioned that he had > dropped the brake fluid can either before or after he topped it off, and I'm > guessing that this is what knocked a line off somewhere around the booster. > I messed around for nearly a half hour with no success other than > determining that the vac shutoff wasn't the culprit. I connected a line to > the shutoff and was able to stop the engine by sucking on it. I don't think > that the problem lies under the dash. The line at the shutoff is firmly > connected, but I can't find the other end. If anyone can give me any other > suggestions on which lines to check, it would be greatly appreciated! > > Kevin in Portland, OR > 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula who keeps going and going and going and going, and > going some more > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean
Uh, sorry, no. We don't talk about the 420 in mixed company, as it ended up being the "car from Hell." 'nuf said. Dan --- E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan, > > Had a quick look at your site and bookmarked it. > I'll go back and read more > when I get through all this mail. I noticed you had > a 420. Any stories you > can share with me regarding running one and > servicing? I have my eye on a > couple in town here. > > Thanks, > > Ed > 300E > > On 18/07/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Not to take anything away from Meguire's, but if > > you're really serious about good, consistent > results, > > buy 3M products. > > > > I have tried nearly every wax/cleaner/compound out > > there over 20 years of detailing, and no matter > how > > good it is purported to be, the value/results > ratio > > with 3M is always the highest. > > > > I'm working on a detailing primer on my Web site - > I > > keep meaning to get the rest of it posted and I > just > > can't seem to find time to finish it (no pun > > intended.) > > > > www.penoff.com > > > > The older non-clearcoat MB finishes are the ones > that > > really come back with proper care. I just found > all > > my 300SE (finny) detailing pics - I'll try and > post > > some of them. > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > --- E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Chuck, > > > > > > I didn't know it was mostly alcohol as I can't > > > really smell it, was I was > > > once told that how it kept older tires from > cracking > > > was that the > > > formulation would draw the waxes in the rubber > to > > > the surface. I was > > > looking for something better, but never sure > what to > > > use. thanks for the > > > tip on the Meguier's #40. I was thinking of > picking > > > up some of their > > > products as a few friends seem to think the > waxes > > > leave a little harder and > > > more durable shine than Mother's, which is what > I'm > > > using now. > > > > > > Thanks again Chuck. > > > > > > Ed > > > 300E > > > > > > On 18/07/07, Chuck Landenberger > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Ed, > > > > > > > > You may have heard this before, but Armoral is > > > mostly alcohol (I > > > > think) and will dry out the surface, requiring > its > > > more frequent use > > > > > > > > For the vinyl surfaces, I use Meguier's #40 > and > > > have been very > > > > satisfied. > > > > > > > > FWIW another $.02 worth and take care, > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > Phoenix AZ > > > > > > > > On Jul 18, 2007, at 11:14 AM, E M wrote: > > > > > > > > > Not sure if this is an open question to the > > > list, but for what it's > > > > > worth, I > > > > > use Mother's brand products, mostly the > liquid > > > wax. I find it goes > > > > > on, > > > > > dries and comes off easy.. I don't think > it's > > > the hardest or longest > > > > > lasting wax, but I like to wax my cars for > fun > > > and to relax, so > > > > > that's not a > > > > > big issue. And, it makes the cars smell > nice. > > > :-) I may try > > > > > something a > > > > > little harder and longer lasting once winter > > > arrives. For leather, > > > > > I LOVE > > > > > Eagle One leather care. I've used it for > about > > > 15 years now and I > > > > > think > > > > > it's great! I use Armoral too, but I try to > use > > > it sparingly and > > > > > will often > > > > > cut it with a little water if I can't find > the > > > low sheen stuff. > > > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > > 300E > > > > > 911SC > > > > > > > > > > On 18/07/07, James Zavesky > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> What product(s) do use? > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks > > > > >> > > > > >> Jim > > > > >> > > > > >>> -Original Message- > > > > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto: > > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:26 PM > > > > >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > > >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you > clean > > > > >>> > > > > < own > > > cars, I would have > > > > >> thought > > > > >>> he > > > > would go down to the scout clean a car > day > > > and haggle them down > > > > to 50c > > > > >>> for a > > > > complete detail inside and out.>> > > > > > > > > >>> First of all, there is no "d" in my name. > As > > > to cleaning my own > > > > >>> cars, > > > > >> you > > > > >>> have no idea. I will put the cosmetic > > > condition of either one up > > > > >>> against > > > > >>> ANY > > > > >>> vehicle on this list. I have been a > compulsive > > > car cleaner since > > > > >>> my very > > > > >>> first > > > > >>> car. When the P-car comes back from > anyplace, > > > it is washed and > > > > >>> detailed > > > > >>> inside > > > > >>> and out before being covering in the > garage. > > > The black C320, being > > > > >> driven > > > > >>> nearly > > > > >>> every day, is a lot more work to keep as > > > clean and shiny as > > > > >>> possible. > > > > >>> But, > === m
Re: [MBZ] all cotton
Glad you brought that up, Roger. One of the ways the guys at Emmons Coachworks (a high line detailing shop in the Chicago area I used to drop in to from time to time) showed me how to tell if the serging on the edges of the towels was synthetic was to pull a short piece of it out and see if it would burn. You could tell right away of it was synthetic, as it would "ball up" and melt like plastic rather than just burn like a cotton fiber. Dan --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The fabric is only part of it. If the threads on the > borders are nylon, they > will scratch. I cannot use cotton towels on my C320 > because they scratch the > EPA formula clear coat (over black paint) which is > forever soft. > > The answer which I discovered several years ago is > Griot's Micro Fiber 25" X > 35" drying towel. I can dry the entire car with one > after which it goes in the > washer. So, I have two. These towels ended the > scratching I had been battling > since I bought the car and the sessions with my P-C > random orbital buffer > have been reduced to 3-4 times annually. My almost > 24 year old Porsche's clear > coat is hard as glass and ordinary towels don't faze > it. > > The nano-particle clear coat that MB has been using > of late is supposed to > reduce surface scratches by 75%, so they claim. > > RLE > > > > > > ** > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ??
Cold enrichment is more for idling than when the car is in motion. I am not 100% up to speed on the last versions of the CIS/E system but the basis of all CIS/E systems is that even without any electric input they continue to work. That is why MB was so reluctant to let go of the sytem, even when just about everyone else went to full electric fuel injection (which MB did in 93/94). However every CIS system needs fuel pressure to work, if your fuel pressure is wrong then it may give the impression of fuel stavation. http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi/timing2.htm at the bottom of this page is a basic layout of the KE (CIS/E) system http://covintechnical.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tech_2.htm http://ffp-motorsport.com/tuning/kejetronic.php http://web.archive.org/web/20060104183213/mb.braingears.com/ have a dig around in here for tech stuff How long since you checked your O2 sensor, maybe when it gets to operating temp it starts to send out bad vibes to the computer. It may be possible to diconnect it to see if there is any change. Blocked fuel tank? I would say no because the symptons would not be so regular and would repeat themselves during the course of driving. It has to be remebered that the CIS system pumps a lot of fuel with something like 90% being returned to the tank. This is the same reason I am not thinking blocked fuel strainer and/or fuel filters. "My theory is there is enough fuel in the pump and line to get us the 1.5 mile. But at that point the pump must take over, and for whatever reason it is struggling. Either the filter is occluded, or their is air getting into the system. I understand from my mechanic that this car has two fuel pumps, and they are known for causing issues." Sounds good on paper but when you realise the amount of fuel that is pumped through the system If air gets into the sytem you would have a fuel leak. If you have fuel pump issues then the problem would not be so regular but more intermitten. Anyhow we need some more info before we can start to track down a likely culprit, such as engine operating temp when the problem occurs, is the car fine once it gets past the 1.5 mile mark and any other odd things that are happening. Has your mechanic checked the trouble codes? From about 88 on the CIS/E system has self diagnostic abilities. - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ?? > > > Troy Kocher wrote: >> >> Listers, >> >> Recently my 'new' 300e seems to be having a fuel supply issue. . >> >> Each morning about 1.5 miles from home it begins to starve for fuel. > > Sounds like a cold enrichment system is shutting off too suddenly > or too soon. > > Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drying cars / Detailing
Forget the Eagle One for the upholstery. Use Leatherique. The stuff is nothing short of amazing. Not that your interior would need it, but I have used it to recover the nastiest, hardest leather from old MBs that you ever saw. If you follow George's instructions, you won't be disappointed. And the owners, George and Krystal are realy great people who are car enthusiasts like us. They are very accessible and responsive to any questions or inquiries about their products. If you contact them, tell them I referred you (nothing in this for me, I just like them to know that we're getting the word out.) There are others on the list who are familiar with their products, too. Fantastic stuff and worth every penny. Dan --- E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I must pick up a bottle of 303. Also, I must stock > up on wax and especially > Eagle One leater care as my auto store seems to stop > carring a lot of stuff > over the winter months. Even though I store the > porsche over the winter, I > still go out into the garage and wax it often to > pass the time. Guess for > most, there isn't much of a call for wax when > there's a foot or two of snow > on the ground. :-) > > Ed > 300E > > On 18/07/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I've become a big fan of 303. I use it on the > plastic panels on the MB, > > all > > rubber, it even does a good job on metal. I also > found it doesn;t smear > > of > > harm glass when I get overspray on it I can buff > it until it polishes out. > > Also, it does not contain any silicones which is a > big problem when a car > > is > > repainted or used around cars being repainted . > > > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > > Weber Carb Info > http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > > . > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "LWB250" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:16 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drying cars. > > > > > > > The 303 is expensive ($12-$16 for a 12 oz. spray > > > bottle, I believe) but it lasts some time. The > thing > > > that's really great about it is that it has UV > > > blockers in it, which as you would expect, are > pretty > > > important when it comes to boats > > > > > > Another alternative for things like dash pads is > > > suntan lotion, believe it or not. That's what > George > > > of Leatherique recommends, and he's definitely > an > > > expert when it comes to maintaining/restoring > interior > > > materials. > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > --- E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> I have a bunch of 100% beach towels and also, > some I > > >> purchased from a salon, > > >> which are small, but again, 100%. Thanks for > the > > >> 303 tips. > > >> > > >> Ed > > >> 300E > > >> > > >> On 18/07/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > If you use towels rather than a chamois, > never, > > >> ever > > >> > use fabric softener on them, as it causes > > >> streaking. > > >> > Also be sure you use 100% cotton towels, as > > >> synthetics > > >> > can actually scratch paint. > > >> > > > >> > I have a set of towels designated for nothing > but > > >> car > > >> > drying. > > >> > > > >> > Also, something far better for your plastics > and > > >> > vinyl, especially if you live in a sunny > climate - > > >> 303 > > >> > Protectant. You can find it at a boat supply > > >> place > > >> > like West Marine. Expensive, but probably > the > > >> best > > >> > stuff you can put on plastic surfaces. No > > >> silicones > > >> > in it like ArmorAll. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Dan, a.k.a. "Mercedes Martha Stewart" > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > --- Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > Fabric Softener and Towels: > > >> > > > > >> > > If you use fabric softener in the dryer, > you > > >> will > > >> > > find the absorbency > > >> > > of towels will be greatly reduced. I used > to > > >> find > > >> > > that those towels > > >> > > would leave water droplets on my skin after > > >> bathing. > > >> > > Same thing > > >> > > probably applies to soaking up water after > > >> washing > > >> > > one's car > > >> > > > > >> > > For drying a car, I use one of those > artificial > > >> > > chamois In > > >> > > AZ, the alkalinity of the water combined > with > > >> high > > >> > > temps makes it > > >> > > virtually impossible to get a spotless wash > job > > >> if I > > >> > > do it in my > > >> > > driveway... I use one of the touchless car > > >> washes > > >> > > that has alkaline > > >> > > free water, then just use that artificial > > >> > > chamois They also > > >> > > recycle the water they use. > > >> > > > > >> > > Just my $.02 > > >> > > > > >> > > Take care, > > >> > > > > >> > > Chuck > > >> > > Phoenix > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > ___
Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve
Resetting the trip while moving hurts nothing. The real issue is that a small plastic part inside disintegrates with age. And as far as filling up when almost empty, I do it all the time. I burn about 2 tanks of fuel a week & filling up when I have to means I only have to stand in front of the pump twice a week, as opposed to 3 or 4 times a week. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve Might pay to teach your son to put more fuel in the car when the light comes on, it is considered bad to reset the trip meter with the car in motion (well it is in the notorious W123 trip/odometers). I personally don't understand why some people only refuel when they are very near empty. However if money is tight and pay day is a couple of days away, some have no option but to. - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve > My son resets the odometer counter to zero when the reserve tank light > comes > on so he knows how close to the edge he is skating... > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean
Yes, I'm up in Canada so it is a little far away. I did check your pictures though and I like it. Getting a US car into Canada isn't a big deal these days, but getting a Canadian into the US for a week is much harder! :-) Are you using your 560 as regular transport these days? Ed 300E On 18/07/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have one that is fixing to be cheap I guess since nobody is buying. I > think you are too far away though. > > E M wrote: > > Dan, > > > > Had a quick look at your site and bookmarked it. I'll go back and read > more > > when I get through all this mail. I noticed you had a 420. Any stories > you > > can share with me regarding running one and servicing? I have my eye on > a > > couple in town here. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, > 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
That sounds WAY too familiar...Been there and done similar a few times. Just not with an MBZ tranny. Mike > Got a box of parts. There were bushings for the trans end of the > shifter. Remove shift arm to access old bushing and replace. Put > back where I had marked them to be, but shift position was off and > hard to shift. Go back in attempt to remedy. Had not secured shift > console to neutral position, not had I marked neutral on the trans. > Messed it up but good. Now it rains, creeper is dead and gone, > street is wet, I am reviewing postings and shop manual for how not to > make it worse. > > > On Jul 18, 2007, at 4:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Well now that you have led us on do tell..At least >> that's ON >> topicLOL >> >> Mike >> >>> It is nothing. Operator error. I get parts from Rusty and proceed >>> to break the car. >>> >>> >>> On Jul 18, 2007, at 12:27 PM, Ed Booher wrote: >>> On 7/17/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we should focus all our attention on solving my messed up > shift issue. Very topical and I am sure it can use close to 80% of > the lists resources. Anybody who is able to actually come over and > provide resources would be most welcome. > > clay You have a shift issue? First I've heard of it. Why didn't you post it to the list? Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > Clay > Seattle Bioburner > > 1972 220D - Gump > 1995 E300D - Cleo > 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA > The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean
I have one that is fixing to be cheap I guess since nobody is buying. I think you are too far away though. E M wrote: > Dan, > > Had a quick look at your site and bookmarked it. I'll go back and read more > when I get through all this mail. I noticed you had a 420. Any stories you > can share with me regarding running one and servicing? I have my eye on a > couple in town here. > > Thanks, > > Ed > 300E > > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve
Might pay to teach your son to put more fuel in the car when the light comes on, it is considered bad to reset the trip meter with the car in motion (well it is in the notorious W123 trip/odometers). I personally don't understand why some people only refuel when they are very near empty. However if money is tight and pay day is a couple of days away, some have no option but to. - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve > My son resets the odometer counter to zero when the reserve tank light > comes > on so he knows how close to the edge he is skating... > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drying cars.
I must pick up a bottle of 303. Also, I must stock up on wax and especially Eagle One leater care as my auto store seems to stop carring a lot of stuff over the winter months. Even though I store the porsche over the winter, I still go out into the garage and wax it often to pass the time. Guess for most, there isn't much of a call for wax when there's a foot or two of snow on the ground. :-) Ed 300E On 18/07/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've become a big fan of 303. I use it on the plastic panels on the MB, > all > rubber, it even does a good job on metal. I also found it doesn;t smear > of > harm glass when I get overspray on it I can buff it until it polishes out. > Also, it does not contain any silicones which is a big problem when a car > is > repainted or used around cars being repainted . > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > . > > - Original Message - > From: "LWB250" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:16 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drying cars. > > > > The 303 is expensive ($12-$16 for a 12 oz. spray > > bottle, I believe) but it lasts some time. The thing > > that's really great about it is that it has UV > > blockers in it, which as you would expect, are pretty > > important when it comes to boats > > > > Another alternative for things like dash pads is > > suntan lotion, believe it or not. That's what George > > of Leatherique recommends, and he's definitely an > > expert when it comes to maintaining/restoring interior > > materials. > > > > Dan > > > > > > --- E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I have a bunch of 100% beach towels and also, some I > >> purchased from a salon, > >> which are small, but again, 100%. Thanks for the > >> 303 tips. > >> > >> Ed > >> 300E > >> > >> On 18/07/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > >> > If you use towels rather than a chamois, never, > >> ever > >> > use fabric softener on them, as it causes > >> streaking. > >> > Also be sure you use 100% cotton towels, as > >> synthetics > >> > can actually scratch paint. > >> > > >> > I have a set of towels designated for nothing but > >> car > >> > drying. > >> > > >> > Also, something far better for your plastics and > >> > vinyl, especially if you live in a sunny climate - > >> 303 > >> > Protectant. You can find it at a boat supply > >> place > >> > like West Marine. Expensive, but probably the > >> best > >> > stuff you can put on plastic surfaces. No > >> silicones > >> > in it like ArmorAll. > >> > > >> > > >> > Dan, a.k.a. "Mercedes Martha Stewart" > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --- Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > Fabric Softener and Towels: > >> > > > >> > > If you use fabric softener in the dryer, you > >> will > >> > > find the absorbency > >> > > of towels will be greatly reduced. I used to > >> find > >> > > that those towels > >> > > would leave water droplets on my skin after > >> bathing. > >> > > Same thing > >> > > probably applies to soaking up water after > >> washing > >> > > one's car > >> > > > >> > > For drying a car, I use one of those artificial > >> > > chamois In > >> > > AZ, the alkalinity of the water combined with > >> high > >> > > temps makes it > >> > > virtually impossible to get a spotless wash job > >> if I > >> > > do it in my > >> > > driveway... I use one of the touchless car > >> washes > >> > > that has alkaline > >> > > free water, then just use that artificial > >> > > chamois They also > >> > > recycle the water they use. > >> > > > >> > > Just my $.02 > >> > > > >> > > Take care, > >> > > > >> > > Chuck > >> > > Phoenix > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ___ > >> > > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > >> > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > >> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > > > >> > > >> > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights > >> and hotels with Yahoo! > >> > FareChase. > >> > http://farechase.yahoo.com/ > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: > >> http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > > >> > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see o
Re: [MBZ] OnT - tank-on-empty - oil lights
That depends why the low oil light came on, if it's a malfunction of the low oil warning system then the engine won't seize but if came on cause the oil is escaping from the engine then it is a matter of minutes. - Original Message - From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - tank-on-empty > And, we need one for the low oil light - how long till the engine > seizes?? > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drying cars.
I've become a big fan of 303. I use it on the plastic panels on the MB, all rubber, it even does a good job on metal. I also found it doesn;t smear of harm glass when I get overspray on it I can buff it until it polishes out. Also, it does not contain any silicones which is a big problem when a car is repainted or used around cars being repainted . Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "LWB250" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drying cars. > The 303 is expensive ($12-$16 for a 12 oz. spray > bottle, I believe) but it lasts some time. The thing > that's really great about it is that it has UV > blockers in it, which as you would expect, are pretty > important when it comes to boats > > Another alternative for things like dash pads is > suntan lotion, believe it or not. That's what George > of Leatherique recommends, and he's definitely an > expert when it comes to maintaining/restoring interior > materials. > > Dan > > > --- E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I have a bunch of 100% beach towels and also, some I >> purchased from a salon, >> which are small, but again, 100%. Thanks for the >> 303 tips. >> >> Ed >> 300E >> >> On 18/07/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > If you use towels rather than a chamois, never, >> ever >> > use fabric softener on them, as it causes >> streaking. >> > Also be sure you use 100% cotton towels, as >> synthetics >> > can actually scratch paint. >> > >> > I have a set of towels designated for nothing but >> car >> > drying. >> > >> > Also, something far better for your plastics and >> > vinyl, especially if you live in a sunny climate - >> 303 >> > Protectant. You can find it at a boat supply >> place >> > like West Marine. Expensive, but probably the >> best >> > stuff you can put on plastic surfaces. No >> silicones >> > in it like ArmorAll. >> > >> > >> > Dan, a.k.a. "Mercedes Martha Stewart" >> > >> > >> > >> > --- Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > Fabric Softener and Towels: >> > > >> > > If you use fabric softener in the dryer, you >> will >> > > find the absorbency >> > > of towels will be greatly reduced. I used to >> find >> > > that those towels >> > > would leave water droplets on my skin after >> bathing. >> > > Same thing >> > > probably applies to soaking up water after >> washing >> > > one's car >> > > >> > > For drying a car, I use one of those artificial >> > > chamois In >> > > AZ, the alkalinity of the water combined with >> high >> > > temps makes it >> > > virtually impossible to get a spotless wash job >> if I >> > > do it in my >> > > driveway... I use one of the touchless car >> washes >> > > that has alkaline >> > > free water, then just use that artificial >> > > chamois They also >> > > recycle the water they use. >> > > >> > > Just my $.02 >> > > >> > > Take care, >> > > >> > > Chuck >> > > Phoenix >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ___ >> > > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > > For new parts see official list sponsor: >> > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > > >> > >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights >> and hotels with Yahoo! >> > FareChase. >> > http://farechase.yahoo.com/ >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: >> http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: >> http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG
Re: [MBZ] Softener
Semi-waterproofs them?? That sounds good. So are you saying I should just use the softener directly on the car? Hee hee. Sounds like it might work even better than RainOff. :-) Ed 300E On 18/07/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > < > water absorbency, this degradation increases over time with continued > use.>> > > > Exactly tight. You would never use fabric softener on car drying towels. > Semi-waterproofs them. > > RLE > > > > > > ** > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] all cotton
my old 911 is an '80SC and it's topcoat is tough as nails. The benz is an '88, so not sure of the clear coat. The previous owner also had some paint blown in to fix stone chips, so I would image, even if the car came with a hard clear coat, the touchup was done with newer, softer stuff. It is light in colour though, so doesn't show as much as some of the darker colours. Ed 300E 911SC On 18/07/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > < > salon, > > which are small, but again, 100%.>> > > > The fabric is only part of it. If the threads on the borders are nylon, > they > will scratch. I cannot use cotton towels on my C320 because they scratch > the > EPA formula clear coat (over black paint) which is forever soft. > > The answer which I discovered several years ago is Griot's Micro Fiber 25" > X > 35" drying towel. I can dry the entire car with one after which it goes in > the > washer. So, I have two. These towels ended the scratching I had been > battling > since I bought the car and the sessions with my P-C random orbital buffer > have been reduced to 3-4 times annually. My almost 24 year old Porsche's > clear > coat is hard as glass and ordinary towels don't faze it. > > The nano-particle clear coat that MB has been using of late is supposed to > reduce surface scratches by 75%, so they claim. > > RLE > > > > > > ** > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drying cars.
A bottle of ArmorAll here is about $7 or so, and smaller than 12 oz. I tend only to use it on the tired and also, the rubber window seals on the doors. I use a damp cloth on the dash and a mild soap and water on the MB tex and then Eagle One leather care to follow. Same on the porsche, but no mild soap on the leather. Good to know about the UV in the 303 as the 300E lives outdoors year round. No cracks at all, and I'd like to keep it that way. :-) Don't know if I want the car to smell like SPF 30 Tropicana though. hee hee Ed 300E On 18/07/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The 303 is expensive ($12-$16 for a 12 oz. spray > bottle, I believe) but it lasts some time. The thing > that's really great about it is that it has UV > blockers in it, which as you would expect, are pretty > important when it comes to boats > > Another alternative for things like dash pads is > suntan lotion, believe it or not. That's what George > of Leatherique recommends, and he's definitely an > expert when it comes to maintaining/restoring interior > materials. > > Dan > > > --- E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have a bunch of 100% beach towels and also, some I > > purchased from a salon, > > which are small, but again, 100%. Thanks for the > > 303 tips. > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > On 18/07/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > If you use towels rather than a chamois, never, > > ever > > > use fabric softener on them, as it causes > > streaking. > > > Also be sure you use 100% cotton towels, as > > synthetics > > > can actually scratch paint. > > > > > > I have a set of towels designated for nothing but > > car > > > drying. > > > > > > Also, something far better for your plastics and > > > vinyl, especially if you live in a sunny climate - > > 303 > > > Protectant. You can find it at a boat supply > > place > > > like West Marine. Expensive, but probably the > > best > > > stuff you can put on plastic surfaces. No > > silicones > > > in it like ArmorAll. > > > > > > > > > Dan, a.k.a. "Mercedes Martha Stewart" > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Fabric Softener and Towels: > > > > > > > > If you use fabric softener in the dryer, you > > will > > > > find the absorbency > > > > of towels will be greatly reduced. I used to > > find > > > > that those towels > > > > would leave water droplets on my skin after > > bathing. > > > > Same thing > > > > probably applies to soaking up water after > > washing > > > > one's car > > > > > > > > For drying a car, I use one of those artificial > > > > chamois In > > > > AZ, the alkalinity of the water combined with > > high > > > > temps makes it > > > > virtually impossible to get a spotless wash job > > if I > > > > do it in my > > > > driveway... I use one of the touchless car > > washes > > > > that has alkaline > > > > free water, then just use that artificial > > > > chamois They also > > > > recycle the water they use. > > > > > > > > Just my $.02 > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > Phoenix > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > > > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights > > and hotels with Yahoo! > > > FareChase. > > > http://farechase.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor
Re: [MBZ] all cotton
> < salon, > which are small, but again, 100%.>> > The fabric is only part of it. If the threads on the borders are nylon, they will scratch. I cannot use cotton towels on my C320 because they scratch the EPA formula clear coat (over black paint) which is forever soft. The answer which I discovered several years ago is Griot's Micro Fiber 25" X 35" drying towel. I can dry the entire car with one after which it goes in the washer. So, I have two. These towels ended the scratching I had been battling since I bought the car and the sessions with my P-C random orbital buffer have been reduced to 3-4 times annually. My almost 24 year old Porsche's clear coat is hard as glass and ordinary towels don't faze it. The nano-particle clear coat that MB has been using of late is supposed to reduce surface scratches by 75%, so they claim. RLE ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean
Dan, Had a quick look at your site and bookmarked it. I'll go back and read more when I get through all this mail. I noticed you had a 420. Any stories you can share with me regarding running one and servicing? I have my eye on a couple in town here. Thanks, Ed 300E On 18/07/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not to take anything away from Meguire's, but if > you're really serious about good, consistent results, > buy 3M products. > > I have tried nearly every wax/cleaner/compound out > there over 20 years of detailing, and no matter how > good it is purported to be, the value/results ratio > with 3M is always the highest. > > I'm working on a detailing primer on my Web site - I > keep meaning to get the rest of it posted and I just > can't seem to find time to finish it (no pun > intended.) > > www.penoff.com > > The older non-clearcoat MB finishes are the ones that > really come back with proper care. I just found all > my 300SE (finny) detailing pics - I'll try and post > some of them. > > Dan > > > > --- E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Chuck, > > > > I didn't know it was mostly alcohol as I can't > > really smell it, was I was > > once told that how it kept older tires from cracking > > was that the > > formulation would draw the waxes in the rubber to > > the surface. I was > > looking for something better, but never sure what to > > use. thanks for the > > tip on the Meguier's #40. I was thinking of picking > > up some of their > > products as a few friends seem to think the waxes > > leave a little harder and > > more durable shine than Mother's, which is what I'm > > using now. > > > > Thanks again Chuck. > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > On 18/07/07, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Ed, > > > > > > You may have heard this before, but Armoral is > > mostly alcohol (I > > > think) and will dry out the surface, requiring its > > more frequent use > > > > > > For the vinyl surfaces, I use Meguier's #40 and > > have been very > > > satisfied. > > > > > > FWIW another $.02 worth and take care, > > > > > > Chuck > > > Phoenix AZ > > > > > > On Jul 18, 2007, at 11:14 AM, E M wrote: > > > > > > > Not sure if this is an open question to the > > list, but for what it's > > > > worth, I > > > > use Mother's brand products, mostly the liquid > > wax. I find it goes > > > > on, > > > > dries and comes off easy.. I don't think it's > > the hardest or longest > > > > lasting wax, but I like to wax my cars for fun > > and to relax, so > > > > that's not a > > > > big issue. And, it makes the cars smell nice. > > :-) I may try > > > > something a > > > > little harder and longer lasting once winter > > arrives. For leather, > > > > I LOVE > > > > Eagle One leather care. I've used it for about > > 15 years now and I > > > > think > > > > it's great! I use Armoral too, but I try to use > > it sparingly and > > > > will often > > > > cut it with a little water if I can't find the > > low sheen stuff. > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > 300E > > > > 911SC > > > > > > > > On 18/07/07, James Zavesky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> What product(s) do use? > > > >> > > > >> Thanks > > > >> > > > >> Jim > > > >> > > > >>> -Original Message- > > > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:26 PM > > > >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean > > > >>> > > > < > cars, I would have > > > >> thought > > > >>> he > > > would go down to the scout clean a car day > > and haggle them down > > > to 50c > > > >>> for a > > > complete detail inside and out.>> > > > > > > >>> First of all, there is no "d" in my name. As > > to cleaning my own > > > >>> cars, > > > >> you > > > >>> have no idea. I will put the cosmetic > > condition of either one up > > > >>> against > > > >>> ANY > > > >>> vehicle on this list. I have been a compulsive > > car cleaner since > > > >>> my very > > > >>> first > > > >>> car. When the P-car comes back from anyplace, > > it is washed and > > > >>> detailed > > > >>> inside > > > >>> and out before being covering in the garage. > > The black C320, being > > > >> driven > > > >>> nearly > > > >>> every day, is a lot more work to keep as > > clean and shiny as > > > >>> possible. > > > >>> But, > > > >>> after years of using this and that polish and > > wax, I have found the > > > >> brand > > > >>> that > > > >>> reduces the work needed and the time required. > > Use a commercial car > > > >> wash? > > > >>> Over my dead body. > > > >>> > > > >>> RLE > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> ** > > > >>> Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > > > >>> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > >>> ___ > > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > > >>> For new parts se
Re: [MBZ] Visiting experts
I am getting closer to the cosmetic restore as I wait. It is one of those things you sit there and enough stuff gets headed south, so you figure ... Well, might just have to tear into her and strip it all off so that I can deal with it in one swell foop. Need to replace windscreen, some rust items, mirrors, old paint and trim items. Fellow who came to take the chrome bundts had a nice 300d on veg oil. His real love is a 220D at home that busted a flex disk, took out the manual shifter and exhaust while he towed it home. Think it also ate some of the tunnel. Knocking on wood that I do not have issues that great. On Jul 18, 2007, at 4:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> <> cold frosty >> mug for when you are thirsty. Might even pop a few of my own >> brewed to >> quench your thirst.>> >> > Very tempting, to be sure. But, not being a trained MB tech puts me > at a > slight disadvantage. As for a cosmetic restoration while-you- > wait > > RLE > > >> >> > > > > > ** > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Softener
> < water absorbency, this degradation increases over time with continued use.>> > Exactly tight. You would never use fabric softener on car drying towels. Semi-waterproofs them. RLE ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
Got a box of parts. There were bushings for the trans end of the shifter. Remove shift arm to access old bushing and replace. Put back where I had marked them to be, but shift position was off and hard to shift. Go back in attempt to remedy. Had not secured shift console to neutral position, not had I marked neutral on the trans. Messed it up but good. Now it rains, creeper is dead and gone, street is wet, I am reviewing postings and shop manual for how not to make it worse. On Jul 18, 2007, at 4:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well now that you have led us on do tell..At least > that's ON > topicLOL > > Mike > >> It is nothing. Operator error. I get parts from Rusty and proceed >> to break the car. >> >> >> On Jul 18, 2007, at 12:27 PM, Ed Booher wrote: >> >>> On 7/17/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think we should focus all our attention on solving my messed up shift issue. Very topical and I am sure it can use close to 80% of the lists resources. Anybody who is able to actually come over and provide resources would be most welcome. clay >>> >>> You have a shift issue? First I've heard of it. Why didn't you >>> post it >>> to the list? >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> -- >>> Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Visiting experts
> < mug for when you are thirsty. Might even pop a few of my own brewed to > quench your thirst.>> > Very tempting, to be sure. But, not being a trained MB tech puts me at a slight disadvantage. As for a cosmetic restoration while-you-wait RLE > > ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drying cars.
The 303 is expensive ($12-$16 for a 12 oz. spray bottle, I believe) but it lasts some time. The thing that's really great about it is that it has UV blockers in it, which as you would expect, are pretty important when it comes to boats Another alternative for things like dash pads is suntan lotion, believe it or not. That's what George of Leatherique recommends, and he's definitely an expert when it comes to maintaining/restoring interior materials. Dan --- E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a bunch of 100% beach towels and also, some I > purchased from a salon, > which are small, but again, 100%. Thanks for the > 303 tips. > > Ed > 300E > > On 18/07/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > If you use towels rather than a chamois, never, > ever > > use fabric softener on them, as it causes > streaking. > > Also be sure you use 100% cotton towels, as > synthetics > > can actually scratch paint. > > > > I have a set of towels designated for nothing but > car > > drying. > > > > Also, something far better for your plastics and > > vinyl, especially if you live in a sunny climate - > 303 > > Protectant. You can find it at a boat supply > place > > like West Marine. Expensive, but probably the > best > > stuff you can put on plastic surfaces. No > silicones > > in it like ArmorAll. > > > > > > Dan, a.k.a. "Mercedes Martha Stewart" > > > > > > > > --- Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Fabric Softener and Towels: > > > > > > If you use fabric softener in the dryer, you > will > > > find the absorbency > > > of towels will be greatly reduced. I used to > find > > > that those towels > > > would leave water droplets on my skin after > bathing. > > > Same thing > > > probably applies to soaking up water after > washing > > > one's car > > > > > > For drying a car, I use one of those artificial > > > chamois In > > > AZ, the alkalinity of the water combined with > high > > > temps makes it > > > virtually impossible to get a spotless wash job > if I > > > do it in my > > > driveway... I use one of the touchless car > washes > > > that has alkaline > > > free water, then just use that artificial > > > chamois They also > > > recycle the water they use. > > > > > > Just my $.02 > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > Chuck > > > Phoenix > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights > and hotels with Yahoo! > > FareChase. > > http://farechase.yahoo.com/ > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Turn Signal Issue
Two screws hold it to the steering shaft. Remove the rubber cover and take the screws out clay On Jul 18, 2007, at 3:29 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > I didn't in my W108 so probably - almost certainly - NOT. > > On 7/18/07, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Thanks Andrew and Darrell - Do I assume correctly that I have to >> remove the steering wheel to get at this or is the >> stalk removable in another manner? >> >> Randy >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel >> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:47 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Turn Signal Issue >> >> >> There is a rather straightforward procedure to remove the stalk >> and file the >> detent with a small triangular file to regain the "hold", but as I >> haven't >> done this in 20 years I can only misinform you if I try to >> remember the >> details... >> >> BTW, this is a VERY common problem in 108, 109, and W 114/115 cars. >> >> >> On 7/18/07, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> My 76 300D has an issue with the turn signal stalk. If I want to >>> turn >>> left, it works as it should. If I want to >>> turn right, I have to hold the lever up as it wants to drop back >>> to the >>> center position. Is this adjustable in some >>> manner if I were to pull the wheel or is it a sign that something is >>> becoming worn? >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
Well now that you have led us on do tell..At least that's ON topicLOL Mike > It is nothing. Operator error. I get parts from Rusty and proceed > to break the car. > > > On Jul 18, 2007, at 12:27 PM, Ed Booher wrote: > >> On 7/17/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I think we should focus all our attention on solving my messed up >>> shift issue. Very topical and I am sure it can use close to 80% of >>> the lists resources. Anybody who is able to actually come over and >>> provide resources would be most welcome. >>> >>> clay >> >> You have a shift issue? First I've heard of it. Why didn't you post it >> to the list? >> >> Ed >> >> -- >> Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean
Not to take anything away from Meguire's, but if you're really serious about good, consistent results, buy 3M products. I have tried nearly every wax/cleaner/compound out there over 20 years of detailing, and no matter how good it is purported to be, the value/results ratio with 3M is always the highest. I'm working on a detailing primer on my Web site - I keep meaning to get the rest of it posted and I just can't seem to find time to finish it (no pun intended.) www.penoff.com The older non-clearcoat MB finishes are the ones that really come back with proper care. I just found all my 300SE (finny) detailing pics - I'll try and post some of them. Dan --- E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > I didn't know it was mostly alcohol as I can't > really smell it, was I was > once told that how it kept older tires from cracking > was that the > formulation would draw the waxes in the rubber to > the surface. I was > looking for something better, but never sure what to > use. thanks for the > tip on the Meguier's #40. I was thinking of picking > up some of their > products as a few friends seem to think the waxes > leave a little harder and > more durable shine than Mother's, which is what I'm > using now. > > Thanks again Chuck. > > Ed > 300E > > On 18/07/07, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Hi Ed, > > > > You may have heard this before, but Armoral is > mostly alcohol (I > > think) and will dry out the surface, requiring its > more frequent use > > > > For the vinyl surfaces, I use Meguier's #40 and > have been very > > satisfied. > > > > FWIW another $.02 worth and take care, > > > > Chuck > > Phoenix AZ > > > > On Jul 18, 2007, at 11:14 AM, E M wrote: > > > > > Not sure if this is an open question to the > list, but for what it's > > > worth, I > > > use Mother's brand products, mostly the liquid > wax. I find it goes > > > on, > > > dries and comes off easy.. I don't think it's > the hardest or longest > > > lasting wax, but I like to wax my cars for fun > and to relax, so > > > that's not a > > > big issue. And, it makes the cars smell nice. > :-) I may try > > > something a > > > little harder and longer lasting once winter > arrives. For leather, > > > I LOVE > > > Eagle One leather care. I've used it for about > 15 years now and I > > > think > > > it's great! I use Armoral too, but I try to use > it sparingly and > > > will often > > > cut it with a little water if I can't find the > low sheen stuff. > > > > > > Ed > > > 300E > > > 911SC > > > > > > On 18/07/07, James Zavesky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> > > >> What product(s) do use? > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> > > >> Jim > > >> > > >>> -Original Message- > > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:26 PM > > >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean > > >>> > > < cars, I would have > > >> thought > > >>> he > > would go down to the scout clean a car day > and haggle them down > > to 50c > > >>> for a > > complete detail inside and out.>> > > > > >>> First of all, there is no "d" in my name. As > to cleaning my own > > >>> cars, > > >> you > > >>> have no idea. I will put the cosmetic > condition of either one up > > >>> against > > >>> ANY > > >>> vehicle on this list. I have been a compulsive > car cleaner since > > >>> my very > > >>> first > > >>> car. When the P-car comes back from anyplace, > it is washed and > > >>> detailed > > >>> inside > > >>> and out before being covering in the garage. > The black C320, being > > >> driven > > >>> nearly > > >>> every day, is a lot more work to keep as > clean and shiny as > > >>> possible. > > >>> But, > > >>> after years of using this and that polish and > wax, I have found the > > >> brand > > >>> that > > >>> reduces the work needed and the time required. > Use a commercial car > > >> wash? > > >>> Over my dead body. > > >>> > > >>> RLE > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ** > > >>> Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > > >>> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > >>> ___ > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go > to: > > >>> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go > to: > > >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> > > > ___ > > > http://www.
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
It is nothing. Operator error. I get parts from Rusty and proceed to break the car. On Jul 18, 2007, at 12:27 PM, Ed Booher wrote: > On 7/17/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I think we should focus all our attention on solving my messed up >> shift issue. Very topical and I am sure it can use close to 80% of >> the lists resources. Anybody who is able to actually come over and >> provide resources would be most welcome. >> >> clay > > You have a shift issue? First I've heard of it. Why didn't you post it > to the list? > > Ed > > -- > Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Turn Signal Issue
Very serviceable. You will need a small file and some care. Unscrew the stalk from the steering shaft. Figure out which end is not holding, and then very carefully file the thing a bit deeper until the stalk stays, but is not trapped there. Did it with Gump and she is fine now On Jul 18, 2007, at 12:18 PM, R A Bennell wrote: > My 76 300D has an issue with the turn signal stalk. If I want to > turn left, it works as it should. If I want to > turn right, I have to hold the lever up as it wants to drop back to > the center position. Is this adjustable in some > manner if I were to pull the wheel or is it a sign that something > is becoming worn? > > Randy > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drying cars.
I have a bunch of 100% beach towels and also, some I purchased from a salon, which are small, but again, 100%. Thanks for the 303 tips. Ed 300E On 18/07/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you use towels rather than a chamois, never, ever > use fabric softener on them, as it causes streaking. > Also be sure you use 100% cotton towels, as synthetics > can actually scratch paint. > > I have a set of towels designated for nothing but car > drying. > > Also, something far better for your plastics and > vinyl, especially if you live in a sunny climate - 303 > Protectant. You can find it at a boat supply place > like West Marine. Expensive, but probably the best > stuff you can put on plastic surfaces. No silicones > in it like ArmorAll. > > > Dan, a.k.a. "Mercedes Martha Stewart" > > > > --- Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Fabric Softener and Towels: > > > > If you use fabric softener in the dryer, you will > > find the absorbency > > of towels will be greatly reduced. I used to find > > that those towels > > would leave water droplets on my skin after bathing. > > Same thing > > probably applies to soaking up water after washing > > one's car > > > > For drying a car, I use one of those artificial > > chamois In > > AZ, the alkalinity of the water combined with high > > temps makes it > > virtually impossible to get a spotless wash job if I > > do it in my > > driveway... I use one of the touchless car washes > > that has alkaline > > free water, then just use that artificial > > chamois They also > > recycle the water they use. > > > > Just my $.02 > > > > Take care, > > > > Chuck > > Phoenix > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! > FareChase. > http://farechase.yahoo.com/ > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
What are the symptoms? How did it happen..I guess I missed something. Burning episode? Mike > I would guess that one of your problems is the scarcity of the manual > transmission models. Most of us have > autotmatics whether we like it or not. > As such, I at least, can only offer fairly general advice. I have never > worked on the shifter for a manual > transmission in a vehicle such as your have. > My general advice is to be gentle to avoid damaging anything. I do not > think you should have tried it with the > engine running. The drive shaft should turn by hand if you have the rear > wheels lifted off of the ground and the > clutch held down. If you cannot turn the drive shaft by hand, then you > should be able to turn one of the rear > wheels and have someone hold the other so that the drive shaft will turn > (again keep the clutch pedal down to > isolate the engine). Moving the levers on the transmission one way or > another should ultimately tell you when it is > in gear and what gear it is in. There cannot be more than a few available > positions. > > One should think you can wiggle and jiggle until it works even if it is a > bit locked at the moment. If you cannot, > then I think I would pull the tranny out of the car and work on it on the > bench. That would give you the > opportunity to look at the clutch after your burning episode. > > If you do get it moving without having to tear into the transmission on > the bench, might I suggest you drain the > fluid and have a look at what comes out. Hopefully no metal chunks. > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Redghost > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:24 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT? > > > I think we should focus all our attention on solving my messed up > shift issue. Very topical and I am sure it can use close to 80% of > the lists resources. Anybody who is able to actually come over and > provide resources would be most welcome. > > clay > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my $50 lombard is now upgraded
Either go to the lower right corner and click drag it to a size you like or use the View menu to double or whole screen it clay On Jul 18, 2007, at 9:24 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > How can I adjust the size of the viewing frame for QuickTime videos > viewed > on any computer? > > On 7/17/07, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On 7/17/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> and now you can tell me i'm an idiot as i could buy a brand new >>> vista >>> equipped acer laptop for 400 bucks. >> >> Just like you could get a new Kia for the price of Kaleb's 420SEL. >> >> Alex >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: fertilizer [was Re: killing weeds and Bombay cats]
It is seattle. IT RAINS -- LOTS so maybe they are being drowned. This is a new bed for them to be in and other stuff grew great there in the past. When the water from the sky went away for a few days, I would hose it down before dinner so it had a chance to evap off the foliage. No growing. Must need miracle grow clay On Jul 18, 2007, at 5:52 AM, OK Don wrote: > You also have to water them > > On 7/17/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Which poop is best for my tomato? I had amended the soil with some >> nice composted chicken poop. When I planted I enriched around the >> tomato start with composted steer poop. >> >> The stupid plant has been there with a bean plant for two months and >> not getting much taller than the second tier of the tomato cage. >> >> >> clay > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drying Cars
I started helping a friend out with his new Porsche Boxster. He was told to be careful of the touchless car washes. The reason being, as there are no brushes involved, the additives in the soap must be much stronger to remove dirt and grim, while only coming into contact with the paint under light pressure. Kind of like a dishwasher I guess. I read the warning label on the dishwasher soap once and it kind of made me question if I wanted to eat food off plates cleaned with the stuff!! hee hee. I wonder if the paint of some of our older cars just fares better with touchless than the new water based paints? Not questioning what you're saying Donald, just adding what I was told. :-) I Regards, Ed 300E On 18/07/07, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chuck wrote: > > "I use one of the touchless car washes that has alkaline > > free water, then just use that artificial chamois They also > > recycle the water they use." > > > > I am with you, I think a really good professional car wash treats their > water to give you the best wash. When I was in college (and then during > the time I took off from college), I managed a huge full service car > wash. It was the touchless variety. My car, (at the time) a 1971 250, > was washed EVERY single day. It had beautiful paint. Good carwashes > (assuming they don't have the harsh brushes) will not harm the paint. In > fact, if you don't do it correctly, I think washing your car at home > will damage the paint (because the surface contaminants are not washed > off before using a sponge to wash it). > > > > I have seen the kind of damage a car wash with brushes can do over time. > My car NEVER had that. I still use commercial car washes as long they > are brushless. > > > > Donald H. Snook > > 1990 300SEL 138K (For Sale) > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean
Hi Chuck, I didn't know it was mostly alcohol as I can't really smell it, was I was once told that how it kept older tires from cracking was that the formulation would draw the waxes in the rubber to the surface. I was looking for something better, but never sure what to use. thanks for the tip on the Meguier's #40. I was thinking of picking up some of their products as a few friends seem to think the waxes leave a little harder and more durable shine than Mother's, which is what I'm using now. Thanks again Chuck. Ed 300E On 18/07/07, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Ed, > > You may have heard this before, but Armoral is mostly alcohol (I > think) and will dry out the surface, requiring its more frequent use > > For the vinyl surfaces, I use Meguier's #40 and have been very > satisfied. > > FWIW another $.02 worth and take care, > > Chuck > Phoenix AZ > > On Jul 18, 2007, at 11:14 AM, E M wrote: > > > Not sure if this is an open question to the list, but for what it's > > worth, I > > use Mother's brand products, mostly the liquid wax. I find it goes > > on, > > dries and comes off easy.. I don't think it's the hardest or longest > > lasting wax, but I like to wax my cars for fun and to relax, so > > that's not a > > big issue. And, it makes the cars smell nice. :-) I may try > > something a > > little harder and longer lasting once winter arrives. For leather, > > I LOVE > > Eagle One leather care. I've used it for about 15 years now and I > > think > > it's great! I use Armoral too, but I try to use it sparingly and > > will often > > cut it with a little water if I can't find the low sheen stuff. > > > > Ed > > 300E > > 911SC > > > > On 18/07/07, James Zavesky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> What product(s) do use? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Jim > >> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:26 PM > >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean > >>> > < >> thought > >>> he > would go down to the scout clean a car day and haggle them down > to 50c > >>> for a > complete detail inside and out.>> > > >>> First of all, there is no "d" in my name. As to cleaning my own > >>> cars, > >> you > >>> have no idea. I will put the cosmetic condition of either one up > >>> against > >>> ANY > >>> vehicle on this list. I have been a compulsive car cleaner since > >>> my very > >>> first > >>> car. When the P-car comes back from anyplace, it is washed and > >>> detailed > >>> inside > >>> and out before being covering in the garage. The black C320, being > >> driven > >>> nearly > >>> every day, is a lot more work to keep as clean and shiny as > >>> possible. > >>> But, > >>> after years of using this and that polish and wax, I have found the > >> brand > >>> that > >>> reduces the work needed and the time required. Use a commercial car > >> wash? > >>> Over my dead body. > >>> > >>> RLE > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ** > >>> Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > >>> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Turn Signal Issue
I didn't in my W108 so probably - almost certainly - NOT. On 7/18/07, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Andrew and Darrell - Do I assume correctly that I have to remove the > steering wheel to get at this or is the > stalk removable in another manner? > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:47 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Turn Signal Issue > > > There is a rather straightforward procedure to remove the stalk and file the > detent with a small triangular file to regain the "hold", but as I haven't > done this in 20 years I can only misinform you if I try to remember the > details... > > BTW, this is a VERY common problem in 108, 109, and W 114/115 cars. > > > On 7/18/07, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > My 76 300D has an issue with the turn signal stalk. If I want to turn > > left, it works as it should. If I want to > > turn right, I have to hold the lever up as it wants to drop back to the > > center position. Is this adjustable in some > > manner if I were to pull the wheel or is it a sign that something is > > becoming worn? > > > > Randy > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Audio software for OS X (was: vista / Final Cut Pro)
Garage Band would do this nicely, and also allow you to tweak/filter/whatever should you choose to. Most Macs have digital and line in jacks, so connecting things is rarely an issue. Should it be, there are plenty of audio interface devices out there to do it. The other option would be Audacity, which is a freeware Mac program that will allow you to capture, save and convert audio files of just about any kind. This is one of the things that Macs are really well suited for out of the box... MacDan --- Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone have firsthand experience with any audio > capture software? One > of the things I would like to do is capture a lot of > analog audio I > have (vinyl LPs, tapes) into MP3s or whatever > digital format my iPod > understands. > > Can a Mac running OS X do this out of the box? Or > what > hardware/software would I need? > > Allan > > > LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Who would spend a grand for FCS? I didn't. > > > > When I decided to take the plunge, they were > selling > > (full) upgrades for Final Cut Studio for $299 if > you > > owned a license for any of the programs in it. > > > > I found a copy of Soundtrack Pro on eBay for $65 > and > > took that along with $299 to get the full version > of > > FCS. So I ended up paying $364 for $1200 worth of > > software. > > > > You can do the same thing right now if you can get > a > > cheap copy of FCP or FCS to upgrade to FCS 2.0, I > > believe. > > > > Dan > > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Turn Signal Issue
Thanks Andrew and Darrell - Do I assume correctly that I have to remove the steering wheel to get at this or is the stalk removable in another manner? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Turn Signal Issue There is a rather straightforward procedure to remove the stalk and file the detent with a small triangular file to regain the "hold", but as I haven't done this in 20 years I can only misinform you if I try to remember the details... BTW, this is a VERY common problem in 108, 109, and W 114/115 cars. On 7/18/07, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My 76 300D has an issue with the turn signal stalk. If I want to turn > left, it works as it should. If I want to > turn right, I have to hold the lever up as it wants to drop back to the > center position. Is this adjustable in some > manner if I were to pull the wheel or is it a sign that something is > becoming worn? > > Randy > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vehicle weight
Wilton, Here's what our neighbor's to the north have to say about GVW and a couple of other related topics like Curb weight. Take care, http://www.pc.gov.bc.ca/cmg/newweb/GVW.htm Chuck Phoenix AZ On Jul 18, 2007, at 1:55 PM, wilton strickland wrote: > 'Zackly what does GVW on vehicle data plate mean? Is it max gross > wt of the > vehicle with driver, passengers, cargo, fuel, etc., or is it basic > wt of > vehicle with driver and fuel? > > Wilton > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Turn Signal Issue
R A, the fix is to remove the stalk and using a small rattail file file out the 'notch' that holds the stalk in the up position. DWS R A Bennell wrote: > My 76 300D has an issue with the turn signal stalk. If I want to turn left, > it works as it should. If I want to > turn right, I have to hold the lever up as it wants to drop back to the > center position. Is this adjustable in some > manner if I were to pull the wheel or is it a sign that something is becoming > worn? > > Randy > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vehicle weight
Its the max weight of the car, driver, passengers, fuel etc. wilton strickland wrote: > 'Zackly what does GVW on vehicle data plate mean? Is it max gross wt of the > vehicle with driver, passengers, cargo, fuel, etc., or is it basic wt of > vehicle with driver and fuel? > > Wilton > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vehicle weight
GVW is the gross (or maximum) weight the vehicle is designed to carry including fuel, passengers, luggage, etc, etc... I friend of mines used to drive a limo as a part time job. She could only put about 5 gallons of gas in the tank when hauling teenagers to proms. So many would pile into a rented limo that the GVW was exceeded & the rear suspension would go flat if she filled up. Part of this was the limo conversion company's fault. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wilton strickland Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:56 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Vehicle weight 'Zackly what does GVW on vehicle data plate mean? Is it max gross wt of the vehicle with driver, passengers, cargo, fuel, etc., or is it basic wt of vehicle with driver and fuel? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Vehicle weight
'Zackly what does GVW on vehicle data plate mean? Is it max gross wt of the vehicle with driver, passengers, cargo, fuel, etc., or is it basic wt of vehicle with driver and fuel? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Turn Signal Issue
There is a rather straightforward procedure to remove the stalk and file the detent with a small triangular file to regain the "hold", but as I haven't done this in 20 years I can only misinform you if I try to remember the details... BTW, this is a VERY common problem in 108, 109, and W 114/115 cars. On 7/18/07, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My 76 300D has an issue with the turn signal stalk. If I want to turn > left, it works as it should. If I want to > turn right, I have to hold the lever up as it wants to drop back to the > center position. Is this adjustable in some > manner if I were to pull the wheel or is it a sign that something is > becoming worn? > > Randy > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manual shifter problems
I think I need a holiday. Either I cannot spell or I cannot type or something. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Manual shifter problems We need a means to edit. I forgot to alter the subject heading and I have a spelling error. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manual shifter problems
We need a meand to edit. I forgot to alter the subject heading and I have a spelling error. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT? I would guess that one of your problems is the scarcity of the manual transmission models. Most of us have automatics whether we like it or not. As such, I at least, can only offer fairly general advice. I have never worked on the shifter for a manual transmission in a vehicle such as your have. My general advice is to be gentle to avoid damaging anything. I do not think you should have tried it with the engine running. The drive shaft should turn by hand if you have the rear wheels lifted off of the ground and the clutch held down. If you cannot turn the drive shaft by hand, then you should be able to turn one of the rear wheels and have someone hold the other so that the drive shaft will turn (again keep the clutch pedal down to isolate the engine). Moving the levers on the transmission one way or another should ultimately tell you when it is in gear and what gear it is in. There cannot be more than a few available positions. One should think you can wiggle and jiggle until it works even if it is a bit locked at the moment. If you cannot, then I think I would pull the tranny out of the car and work on it on the bench. That would give you the opportunity to look at the clutch after your burning episode. If you do get it moving without having to tear into the transmission on the bench, might I suggest you drain the fluid and have a look at what comes out. Hopefully no metal chunks. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT? I think we should focus all our attention on solving my messed up shift issue. Very topical and I am sure it can use close to 80% of the lists resources. Anybody who is able to actually come over and provide resources would be most welcome. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ??
Can you point me to any docs on this? I'm not familar with it. . Troy On 7/18/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Troy Kocher wrote: > > > > Listers, > > > > Recently my 'new' 300e seems to be having a fuel supply issue. . > > > > Each morning about 1.5 miles from home it begins to starve for fuel. > > Sounds like a cold enrichment system is shutting off too suddenly > or too soon. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ??
Interesting I'll try it Thanks Troy On 7/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Troy, > > Try loosening the gas cap the next time it stalls. Your tank vent may be > clogged with mud ( it hangs down in front of the tank) and the vacuum > created > stops fuel flow. You should hear air rush into the tank if this is your > problem. > > Jim Friesen > Phoenix AZ > 79 300SD, 267 K miles > 98 ML 320, 151 K miles > > > > > ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] atomic SOMETHING
Can't imagine what kind of "show" that car would be in. It's far from being in mint condition, even discounting its intrinsic repulsiveness. "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And a Mustang II (one step above a Pinto) at that. I had friends with these > & they were economical but I never felt safe riding in one. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Curt Raymond > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:34 PM > To: Diesel List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] atomic SOMETHING > > > Oh god, 4cyl and an automatic... > > White pleather interior. > > Horrifying. I think I need to go have a lie down. > > -Curt > > Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:25:35 -0400 > From: "Tony Wirtel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [MBZ] atomic SOMETHING > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Brought to you by Ebay, a Show Car... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Unique-1977-Ford-Mustang-II-Show-Car_W0QQitem > Z160137678977QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6236QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > I thought these got crushed long ago. Especially in colors like those. > > Tony Wirtel > > > - > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel > and lay it on us. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Audio software for OS X (was: vista / Final Cut Pro)
Anyone have firsthand experience with any audio capture software? One of the things I would like to do is capture a lot of analog audio I have (vinyl LPs, tapes) into MP3s or whatever digital format my iPod understands. Can a Mac running OS X do this out of the box? Or what hardware/software would I need? Allan LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Who would spend a grand for FCS? I didn't. > > When I decided to take the plunge, they were selling > (full) upgrades for Final Cut Studio for $299 if you > owned a license for any of the programs in it. > > I found a copy of Soundtrack Pro on eBay for $65 and > took that along with $299 to get the full version of > FCS. So I ended up paying $364 for $1200 worth of > software. > > You can do the same thing right now if you can get a > cheap copy of FCP or FCS to upgrade to FCS 2.0, I > believe. > > Dan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vista / Final Cut Pro
Who would spend a grand for FCS? I didn't. When I decided to take the plunge, they were selling (full) upgrades for Final Cut Studio for $299 if you owned a license for any of the programs in it. I found a copy of Soundtrack Pro on eBay for $65 and took that along with $299 to get the full version of FCS. So I ended up paying $364 for $1200 worth of software. You can do the same thing right now if you can get a cheap copy of FCP or FCS to upgrade to FCS 2.0, I believe. Dan --- Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:14:00 -0700 (PDT) > > From: LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] vista > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > So how's about that server farm they were running > at > > NAB? I had a friend who tried to take a picture > of it > > and they chased him off. > > > > Dan (FCP Certified) > > I could really use a copy of Final Cut, but if I had > a grand, I'd buy > a Mercedes first. > > Ed > -- > Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... > Be Evil. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] atomic SOMETHING
And a Mustang II (one step above a Pinto) at that. I had friends with these & they were economical but I never felt safe riding in one. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:34 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] atomic SOMETHING Oh god, 4cyl and an automatic... White pleather interior. Horrifying. I think I need to go have a lie down. -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:25:35 -0400 From: "Tony Wirtel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] atomic SOMETHING To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Brought to you by Ebay, a Show Car... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Unique-1977-Ford-Mustang-II-Show-Car_W0QQitem Z160137678977QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6236QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I thought these got crushed long ago. Especially in colors like those. Tony Wirtel - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
I would guess that one of your problems is the scarcity of the manual transmission models. Most of us have autotmatics whether we like it or not. As such, I at least, can only offer fairly general advice. I have never worked on the shifter for a manual transmission in a vehicle such as your have. My general advice is to be gentle to avoid damaging anything. I do not think you should have tried it with the engine running. The drive shaft should turn by hand if you have the rear wheels lifted off of the ground and the clutch held down. If you cannot turn the drive shaft by hand, then you should be able to turn one of the rear wheels and have someone hold the other so that the drive shaft will turn (again keep the clutch pedal down to isolate the engine). Moving the levers on the transmission one way or another should ultimately tell you when it is in gear and what gear it is in. There cannot be more than a few available positions. One should think you can wiggle and jiggle until it works even if it is a bit locked at the moment. If you cannot, then I think I would pull the tranny out of the car and work on it on the bench. That would give you the opportunity to look at the clutch after your burning episode. If you do get it moving without having to tear into the transmission on the bench, might I suggest you drain the fluid and have a look at what comes out. Hopefully no metal chunks. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT? I think we should focus all our attention on solving my messed up shift issue. Very topical and I am sure it can use close to 80% of the lists resources. Anybody who is able to actually come over and provide resources would be most welcome. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drying cars.
If you use towels rather than a chamois, never, ever use fabric softener on them, as it causes streaking. Also be sure you use 100% cotton towels, as synthetics can actually scratch paint. I have a set of towels designated for nothing but car drying. Also, something far better for your plastics and vinyl, especially if you live in a sunny climate - 303 Protectant. You can find it at a boat supply place like West Marine. Expensive, but probably the best stuff you can put on plastic surfaces. No silicones in it like ArmorAll. Dan, a.k.a. "Mercedes Martha Stewart" --- Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fabric Softener and Towels: > > If you use fabric softener in the dryer, you will > find the absorbency > of towels will be greatly reduced. I used to find > that those towels > would leave water droplets on my skin after bathing. > Same thing > probably applies to soaking up water after washing > one's car > > For drying a car, I use one of those artificial > chamois In > AZ, the alkalinity of the water combined with high > temps makes it > virtually impossible to get a spotless wash job if I > do it in my > driveway... I use one of the touchless car washes > that has alkaline > free water, then just use that artificial > chamois They also > recycle the water they use. > > Just my $.02 > > Take care, > > Chuck > Phoenix > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] atomic SOMETHING
Oh god, 4cyl and an automatic... White pleather interior. Horrifying. I think I need to go have a lie down. -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:25:35 -0400 From: "Tony Wirtel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] atomic SOMETHING To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Brought to you by Ebay, a Show Car... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Unique-1977-Ford-Mustang-II-Show-Car_W0QQitemZ160137678977QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6236QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I thought these got crushed long ago. Especially in colors like those. Tony Wirtel - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
On 7/17/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we should focus all our attention on solving my messed up > shift issue. Very topical and I am sure it can use close to 80% of > the lists resources. Anybody who is able to actually come over and > provide resources would be most welcome. > > clay You have a shift issue? First I've heard of it. Why didn't you post it to the list? Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vista
> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:14:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] vista > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > So how's about that server farm they were running at > NAB? I had a friend who tried to take a picture of it > and they chased him off. > > Dan (FCP Certified) I could really use a copy of Final Cut, but if I had a grand, I'd buy a Mercedes first. Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vista
On 7/17/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Remember, all this stuff was new back then, and expensive -- I believe > the Wallstreet shgipped with a 4 GB hard drive and 64 MB of ram, and > was the king of the laptops for a few months. > > Gee, I remember using a 286 with 512k of RAM because I couldn't find > the $200 for the rest of the 1MB the motherboard would hold! > > Peter I was just handed a Wallstreet, and it is indeed a G3 266 Mhz with 64 MB RAM, 4 GB HD, 14.4 (BLAZIN') modem, 20x CD-ROM and onboard SCSI. Ahh ... those were the days, my friends. Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Turn Signal Issue
My 76 300D has an issue with the turn signal stalk. If I want to turn left, it works as it should. If I want to turn right, I have to hold the lever up as it wants to drop back to the center position. Is this adjustable in some manner if I were to pull the wheel or is it a sign that something is becoming worn? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drying Cars
Chuck wrote: "I use one of the touchless car washes that has alkaline free water, then just use that artificial chamois They also recycle the water they use." I am with you, I think a really good professional car wash treats their water to give you the best wash. When I was in college (and then during the time I took off from college), I managed a huge full service car wash. It was the touchless variety. My car, (at the time) a 1971 250, was washed EVERY single day. It had beautiful paint. Good carwashes (assuming they don't have the harsh brushes) will not harm the paint. In fact, if you don't do it correctly, I think washing your car at home will damage the paint (because the surface contaminants are not washed off before using a sponge to wash it). I have seen the kind of damage a car wash with brushes can do over time. My car NEVER had that. I still use commercial car washes as long they are brushless. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 138K (For Sale) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ??
Troy, Try loosening the gas cap the next time it stalls. Your tank vent may be clogged with mud ( it hangs down in front of the tank) and the vacuum created stops fuel flow. You should hear air rush into the tank if this is your problem. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean
Hi Ed, You may have heard this before, but Armoral is mostly alcohol (I think) and will dry out the surface, requiring its more frequent use For the vinyl surfaces, I use Meguier's #40 and have been very satisfied. FWIW another $.02 worth and take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Jul 18, 2007, at 11:14 AM, E M wrote: > Not sure if this is an open question to the list, but for what it's > worth, I > use Mother's brand products, mostly the liquid wax. I find it goes > on, > dries and comes off easy.. I don't think it's the hardest or longest > lasting wax, but I like to wax my cars for fun and to relax, so > that's not a > big issue. And, it makes the cars smell nice. :-) I may try > something a > little harder and longer lasting once winter arrives. For leather, > I LOVE > Eagle One leather care. I've used it for about 15 years now and I > think > it's great! I use Armoral too, but I try to use it sparingly and > will often > cut it with a little water if I can't find the low sheen stuff. > > Ed > 300E > 911SC > > On 18/07/07, James Zavesky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> What product(s) do use? >> >> Thanks >> >> Jim >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:26 PM >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clean, I'll show you clean >>> <> thought >>> he would go down to the scout clean a car day and haggle them down to 50c >>> for a complete detail inside and out.>> >>> First of all, there is no "d" in my name. As to cleaning my own >>> cars, >> you >>> have no idea. I will put the cosmetic condition of either one up >>> against >>> ANY >>> vehicle on this list. I have been a compulsive car cleaner since >>> my very >>> first >>> car. When the P-car comes back from anyplace, it is washed and >>> detailed >>> inside >>> and out before being covering in the garage. The black C320, being >> driven >>> nearly >>> every day, is a lot more work to keep as clean and shiny as >>> possible. >>> But, >>> after years of using this and that polish and wax, I have found the >> brand >>> that >>> reduces the work needed and the time required. Use a commercial car >> wash? >>> Over my dead body. >>> >>> RLE >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ** >>> Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at >>> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fabric Softener on towels (was: Drying cars.)
Thanks Allan, I'll be sure to pass it on and share with others. Ed 300E On 18/07/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Fabric softener leaves a residue on the material. It slightly degrades > water absorbency, this degradation increases over time with continued > use. > > http://agexted.cas.psu.edu/FCS/4hfl/FabricSoft.html > > Allan > > Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Fabric softener or water softener? > > > > Water softener uses salt. Maybe they figure some salinity remains > > and isn't good for the car. > > > > I dunno, just a guess. > > > > -Curt > > > > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
