Re: [MBZ] MB creates wife right husband wrong condition - brake lights

2007-10-28 Thread Zoltan Finks
My goodness, am I destined to wind up like this? Just about everyone I
have heard speak of long term relationships with women sends the same
message. Basically you *will* submit now or later.

Of course I was mostly kidding in my original post about the whole
"enemy" thing, but it is really an interesting topic.

It is so predictable that my wife will compete with me for whom is
right, when most of the time I couldn't care less. But I start to care
in a hurry when she starts demanding to be found right. It's then that
I engage and work to prove her wrong. It's like, you want to go? Let's
go.

So many people brag about being competitive, and some tout with joy
the fact that their woman is so competitive with them. I for one have
zero interest in my wife being my competitior, rather wishing her to
be on my team. But, start something with me, and you had better pack a
lunch.

Point of example: as we were bicycling to Trader Joe's in Seattle, I
tried to get her to go a route that I had discovered from repeated
experience to be a bike friendly one. She didn't believe me and had to
find another route. When I told her I knew the way, she called me a
know-it-all. It was like, where did that come from? Oh yeah, she's
seeing this as a competition. I really didn't care to be right; in
fact in fact all I cared to do was be by myself freely enjoying the
bike ride as I had many times before instead of standing there
bickering. Yes, I know the popular answer is: just say yes dear. But I
am a card-carrying masculist.

Mercedes content: On the 87 190D, I found that the high-mounted brake
lamp was not working. Fortunately it was just the bulb. But the
problem is that the whole plastic assembly was very brittle and not
only did the two plastic tabs on the sides break right away, but
several cracks occured as I manipulated the thing - gently! It's now
Gorilla glue-ing up overnight. Years of California sun I suppose. The
burnt out bulb said "Germany" on it, interestingly.

Brian



On 10/28/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When *will* you learn - you must never doubt the female.   They may not know
> everything but when they make a comment, it's usually true.  Men, OTOH,
> myself included, will weigh the odds of her knowing more than I and make a
> comment based on a guess.  As long as she doesn't call my bluff I'm ok -
> usually I get caught and yet I continue to hold my position - thus digging
> my grave even deeper.
>
> Afterwards I'm amazed at how confident I tried to appear in defending what
> was basically a guess.
>
> Will I learn?  Well, I've been married almost 40 years to the same wonderful
> woman and haven't learned yet.  I *have* learned to keep quiet more often --
>
> Saying stuff gets me in trouble (sometimes I just can't help myself) - then
> I get deperate to dig my way out by saying stuff with little or no basis in
> reality - which explains why I'm usually unsuccessful in reversing the
> situation. ;-/
>
> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 1:08 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] MB creates wife right husband wrong condition - brake lights
>
>
> > Must sell both Mercedes. Last night when investigating a tail light
> > that was out, I discovered that the brake lights didn't work either
> > (190D). So wife comes into garage and I tell her what I'm doing as I'm
> > under the hood switching out a fuse.
> >
> > She says try turning on the key. I say with complete confidence (rare
> > for me on any topic) that you don't need the key for the brake lights
> > to operate. I even said "that's a guarantee". She says just try it -
> > humor me. I put the key in and turn and the brake lights work. I go
> > over to the 240, and same thing!
> >
> > I have not before seen a vehicle that requires the key to operate the
> > brake lights! Thanks for scoring one for the enemy, MB. I would expect
> > this from a Volvo.
> >
> > Brian
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford F250 6.9L diesel

2007-10-28 Thread John Freer
Ford truck owners are known to exagerate,,,here's the facts for a 05 F350.

"So we hopped a plane to Charlotte, N.C., to meet up with a new King
Ranch F-350 duallie. Hooked to the center of the bed was a 42-ft.
two-car trailer, with an all-up weight just a touch over 11,000
pounds. While this is far less than the Super Duty's max capacity,
it's still enough mass to make little beads of sweat stand out on your
forehead as you're headed for Lowe's Motor Speedway with a couple
hundred grand of somebody else's race cars that you've signed for.

WHO'S THE BOSS?

Ford F-350 Super Duty: 17,000 pounds
Chevrolet Silverado H-D: 16,700 pounds
GMC Sierra H-D: 16,700 pounds
Dodge Ram H-D: 16,400 pounds
Nissan Titan: 9500 pounds
Toyota Tundra: 7100 pounds"

Maybe a 30K Combined weight weight capacity, but certainly not trailer capacity.


On 10/28/07, Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It seems than at Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:44:50 -0500, Mitch wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Luther wrote:
> > >
> > > My neighboor just purchased an '05 F350 1Ton that is rated to pull 30,000 
> > > lbs
> >
> > A friend of mine has one for sale, low miles, 6x6, crew cab, auto tranny.
>
> Isn't a 6x6 a 3-axle?
>
> Has Ford made any 3-axle versions of their light-duty trucks?
> (smaller than f-600).
>
> -- Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew Core Principles - old cars

2007-10-28 Thread Peter Merle
I wonder how much pollution is generated in making new cars - I wonder
how many miles of driving an older car as opposed to a new car would
balance out the carbon equation ( never mind the epollution of disposing
the old car )

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford F250 6.9L diesel

2007-10-28 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:19:19 -0500, Mitch wrote:


> Fmiser wrote:
> > Isn't a 6x6 a 3-axle?
> 
> I was counting tires, not hubs.

Got it!

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Cars versus ecology {was Re: Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left toRenew CorePrinciples]

2007-10-28 Thread archer
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:25:26 -0400 "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> We'll all be driving a Prius!

Craig wrote:
> No one mentions how much other, non-renewable the Prius uses in its
> manfacture. And then more when the battery pack is worn out.
> A good diesel has it beat by a mile when overall resource usage is
> considered. And some of the gas cars do well, too. A friend in Colorado
> has a Honda Civic with variable cam timing that gets 50 mpg.
--
Which year and engine Honda Civic is that?
Gerry 


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Re: [MBZ] CL cars - anyone in SF?

2007-10-28 Thread Sunil Hari
sadly, didn't manage to see the cars - got caught up in conference stuff all
weekend.  Currently in Las Vegas McCarran International Airport, aka a
Hellmouth and a Gateway to Garbage.  Will be in Columbus in ~4 hours.

On 10/28/07, David Bruckmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Did you go to look at either of these cars? They've both been on CL for
> way longer than a month (the SDL has been there on and off since June) so
> I'm thinking there must be something omitted from the ads that is causing
> people to abandon ship when they finally see the cars. Not to mention the
> fact that 4k for a rusty 190D is a bit rich.
>
> D.
>
> Sunil Hari wrote:
> >Subject: [MBZ] CL cars - anyone in SF?
> >
> >http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/460776560.html
> >
> >http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/460769146.html
> >
> >has potential ...
> >
> >no affiliation, association, etc.
> >
> >BTW, I'm in San Francisco until tomorrow evening.  I've been in San Diego
> >all month.  Next - home for 3 months, then India.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn LefttoRenew CorePrinciples

2007-10-28 Thread archer
From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> We'll all be driving a Prius!
> Yuck!!
---
Has anyone heard how the Prius batteries are holding up?  Saw one of the 
early ones for sale in classified and wondered if a buyer would have to be 
spending several thousand dollars to replace the batteries.  Here are some 
links on the problem:

http://www.hybridexperience.ca/Reliability.htm

http://www.hybridcars.com/technology-stories/battery-replacement-costs.html

One auto manufacturer (MB?) was supposed to be coming out with a hybrid 
which has a diesel engine.

Rechargeable batteries can last a long time.  The original Ni-Cad battery 
that came with a Makita drill motor bought in 1986 still charges up and 
works; not as long or as powerful as a new battery, but still useful for 
most tasks.

Gerry Archer
'83 300D and 240D 


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Re: [MBZ] Lifetime trans fluid

2007-10-28 Thread RELNGSON
<>

Without a torque converter drain in the 5-speed electronic transmissions, 
only four of the eight quarts can be drained. MB's now two year old change 
interval on those five-speeds is 39K miles. I did my C320 (no TQ drain) at 
about 45K 
miles and the fluid looked OK.

My '08 C300's 7-speed has a TQ drain (yippee) and changes are called for but 
I'd have to check the manual again since I've forgotten.

What does amaze me is the new 15 year change interval on the coolant.

RLE




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Re: [MBZ] CL cars - anyone in SF?

2007-10-28 Thread David Bruckmann
Did you go to look at either of these cars? They've both been on CL for way 
longer than a month (the SDL has been there on and off since June) so I'm 
thinking there must be something omitted from the ads that is causing people to 
abandon ship when they finally see the cars. Not to mention the fact that 4k 
for a rusty 190D is a bit rich.

D.

Sunil Hari wrote:
>Subject: [MBZ] CL cars - anyone in SF?
>
>http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/460776560.html
>
>http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/460769146.html
>
>has potential ...
>
>no affiliation, association, etc.
>
>BTW, I'm in San Francisco until tomorrow evening.  I've been in San Diego
>all month.  Next - home for 3 months, then India.
>
>
>-- 
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>614-441-8164
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew CorePrinciples

2007-10-28 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hendrik,

I recently was in Germany on the MBCA Stuttgart Tour.  These days  
there are no old cars there.  Taxes are increased significantly after  
a car is five years old.  From what I have heard, all of those cars  
are now in the Middle East and Africa and running fine.  All the  
while, operating under no emission controls.

There's no solution until we all declare you to be King!

Take care,

Chuck
On Oct 28, 2007, at 7:50 PM, Hendrik & Fay wrote:

> Whilst there is politics involved, it is a fair discussion to
> hypothesize what would happen if a self proclaimed GW activist has his
> hands on the levers of power. Would big cars be banned or heavily  
> taxed?
> What about older cars without emission controls, such as old school
> Diesels?
> What about a 20% carbon offset tax on fuel?
>
> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>> While I agree with you completely, lets keep the politics off the  
>> list.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Chuck Landenberger wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford F250 6.9L diesel

2007-10-28 Thread Mitch Haley


Fmiser wrote:
> Isn't a 6x6 a 3-axle?

I was counting tires, not hubs. It's a dual rear wheel F350 4x4. 
(Ford gives you the option of DRW or SRW on the one ton pickups, Dodge only
sells their 3500 with duals)

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford F250 6.9L diesel

2007-10-28 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:44:50 -0500, Mitch wrote:

> 
> 
> Luther wrote:
> > 
> > My neighboor just purchased an '05 F350 1Ton that is rated to pull 30,000 
> > lbs
> 
> A friend of mine has one for sale, low miles, 6x6, crew cab, auto tranny.

Isn't a 6x6 a 3-axle?

Has Ford made any 3-axle versions of their light-duty trucks?
(smaller than f-600).

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb

2007-10-28 Thread Mitch Haley


Tom Hargrave wrote:
> 
> Plans for the next house include a professional lift or a drive over pit.

I've used two pits.
My neighbor made one 4' wide that spread on him a bit when he was pouring it,
more like 50-52" at the widest. Huge pain in the butt to drive a medium to
narrow car over it, always afraid you will fall in. He should have put
raised steel edges on it for tire guides. 

The other one is a very nice setup, but a lift woud be cheaper.
It's 30' long x 10' wide. Has full length rails, made of 12" I-beam
sitting on top of 14" I-beam. (horizontal I to drive on, sitting on
top of vertical I for strength). Has a recessed steel runway at
each end that the beams sit on so that the top of the beem is flush
with the floor. You can walk the beams side to side with a crowbar
to adjust the track width. I've had everything from my 1976 Subaru
to a F650 dump truck on that pit. (with dual wheels, you have to let
half of the duals run off the rail)

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford F250 6.9L diesel

2007-10-28 Thread Kevin Kraly
Even if this was 30K gross weight, that's incredible!!  My Dodge Ram 2500 
with the new 6.7L Cummins is only rated to tow 13K, 21K GCVWR.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 


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Re: [MBZ] OT, tv again

2007-10-28 Thread Rich Thomas
All those details are somewhat meaningless if the station or cable 
provider or sat is choking the bandwidth of the broadcast.  I have 
noticed this particularly on some fights on HBO or SHO HD, in which the 
picture pixelates like crazy when the fighters are punching fast or 
moving quickly.  The compression algorithms and further trimming on the 
broadcast signal contribute to this (whether in the truck or on the 
uplink or downlink or cable), and no TV will do any better because 
garbage in = garbage out.  Probably same with car races.

I think this will become more of a problem with the transition to full 
digital as local stations have 2 or 3 subchannels to which they can 
allocate bandwidth, and the primary HD signal will suffer for it.  And 
with more "HD" channels on cable or sat, they have to squeeze all that 
in somehow so that means less detail transmitted.  On most content that 
might not matter much, as the compression  does well with stuff that 
doesn't have a lot of fast motion, but sports and car races and and 
action movies and such...  I noticed some wicked pixelation on a golf 
match I watched a few minutes of a couple years ago, when the ball took 
off the screen had all kinds of white patches on it!

If I recall, full HD 1920x1080p is 19.2Mbps, I doubt if anyone is 
transmitting that here in US (maybe in Japan?), maybe 1080i is all they 
do, if even that.  HD DVDs probably do that though, so that is a useful 
consideration in which TV one selects.

Plus I thought film was limited by grain size,  which is considerably 
higher rez than HD ever will be?

--R

b_gallagher wrote:
> The best resolution right now is the 1080i. It's has a resolution of 
> 1920 by 1080 which  is just under the resolution of 16 mm film( 1600 by 
> 1156 ). You can adjust your monitor on your computer to see the 
> difference. Picture quality will go down i.e. 720i is 1920 by 720. The 
> old picture quality on TV for the last 55 years has been NTSC which has 
> a resolution of 680 by 480.
> The number of information displayed on a screen is 1920 times 
> 1080 equals 2,073,600. 1920 times 720 equals 1,382,400 and the old 
> picture we has seen for 55 years on TV is 640 times 480 equal 307,200. 
> Sport Jocks will as if the ball went foul and show the image on NTSC 
> which does not really show the  world that we sell with our eyes. It was 
> a joke and people not knowing will argue about the foul ball forever. To 
> summary this issue, the higher the resolution, the better the quality, 
> you can see line cracks on people's skin, and the image is on the low 
> level of showing the real world as seen through our eyes.
> If you want the best color display, Sony or/and Panasonic has the 
> best. If you select RCA and make a comment about the color of the person 
> clothing, you are really not seeing what your eye see. There is a big 
> shift in the color Hues.
> If you like to watch the soaps, theater, talk show on TV, go with 
> the plasma. Action viewing, sports, movies, and the like require the 
> CRT. CRT will keep up with the movement of action as the plasma does not 
> and shows blurs.
>  720 P and the like, in my point of view, will be slow to come on 
> line. The media has resisted for over 50 years, and another change will 
> cost more.
> One finally point, not all TV stations have HD cameras. If they buy 
> a cheap one, your see a cheap picture in HD. Colors will be poor, 
> resolution  like 720 and the like. All the major league football and 
> baseball have the best equipment, therefore, the best picture will be 
> displayed on your HD 1080i
>
> Check the like out for further info:
> Bill
> 1981 300 TD
>
> http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6361600-1.html
>
> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>   
>> I went and looked at some TV's.  Went to dead sams, worst buy, and wally 
>> world.  I have a few people(not working at the store, people I know) 
>> tell me that DLP is the best.  What do you all think?  They seem to have 
>> bigger screen and cheaper.  AT walmart, they had some of the 1080P and 
>> 720P LCD and plasmas.  It seemed like maybe the LCD had a better 
>> picture.  Could have been how it was adjusted at the store too.  I could 
>> not really tell for sure if the 1080P was that much better than the 
>> 720P.  Is it really paying a big different for the higher resolution? 
>> Also, Walmart had a couple of 50" DLP models, one was an RCA for $9xx, 
>> the other I think was a phillips for $8xx.  Seems like a good deal to 
>> me.  The picture on the RCA was better than the phillips, but again, 
>> they might not have been adjusted very good.  The RCA didnt seem to have 
>> as good of a picture as the LCD's and plasmas.  It was a 720P.  I have 
>> also heard the DLP is better in the fact that when it comes time to 
>> replace the bulb, its easier and cheaper to do.
>>   
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Re: [MBZ] Changing fluid in a sealed transmission

2007-10-28 Thread Tom Hargrave
Tom,

If the screw has started to slip then the threads have already been pulled
away from the housing and the fastener will not stay tight. This might turn
into an expensive experiment, much more expensive than the fancy ATF. My
last 3 transmission rebuilds cost me $1760.00 each (1 this year, 1 year
before last, 1 five years ago), but I drive a lot of miles.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Craig McCluskey wrote:

> With as much as you have riding on it (no pun intended), I'm not sure I'd
> be comfortable doing that. Beside, if it leaks, you'll have quite a mess
> under the car.

I wasn't entirely comfortable with it either, but I was out of Helicoils 
and it just barely started to slip.  I doubt it lost any more tension 
than my torque wrench's margin of error.  I will keep an eye on it and a 
close look out for leaks, though; that fancy ATF is so expensive you'd 
think the Pentagon was buying.

Tom

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Re: [MBZ] OT, tv again

2007-10-28 Thread b_gallagher
John:
   Looking up Plasma, I can see your point. 2006 the technology has been 
improved...what I do not like about 37 inch display or greater, is the 
quality of the picture. They take a small image and blow it up to a 
larger size. You have all sort of problems to overcome and quality is 
not that good compared to say a 27 inch TV .I was mostly using info 
I have learned in 27 inch and below CRT, show the best compared to others.
   Plasma is the big screen and you have distortion. It's like 
taking a 35mm picture and blowing it up to  37 by  24 inches. The 
picture is blurred, grains appear, and the like...I prefer the 27 inch 
size because the overall quality is much better..

Bill
Little recap of this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_display

Until quite recently, the superior brightness, faster response time, 
greater color spectrum, and wider viewing angle  of 
color plasma video displays, when compared with LCD televisions 
, made them one of the most 
popular forms of display for HDTV  flat panel displays 
. For a long time it was widely believed that 
LCD technology was suited only to smaller sized televisions, and could 
not compete with plasma technology at larger sizes, particularly 40 
inches and above.

However, since then, improvements in LCD technology have narrowed the 
technological gap. The lower weight, falling prices, higher available 
resolution, which is important for HDTV, and often lower electrical 
power consumption of LCDs make them competitive against plasma displays 
in the television set market. As of late 2006, analysts note that LCDs 
are overtaking plasmas, particularly in the important 40-inch (1.0 m) 
and above segment where plasma had previously enjoyed strong dominance a 
couple of years before.^[1] <#_note-0> Another industry trend is the 
consolidation of manufacturers of plasma displays, with around fifty 
brands available but only five manufacturers.


John Freer wrote:
> Bill, all the info I read said the Plasma was better for action sports
> although the LCD is catching up with faster refresh rates. I saw this
> demonstrated in a Big Box store showing a NASCAR race tape side by
> side. LCD had shadows (ghosts) behind the cars, Plasma did not. Sets
> were made by the same maker.
>
> John
>
> On 10/29/07, b_gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> The best resolution right now is the 1080i. It's has a resolution of
>> 1920 by 1080 which  is just under the resolution of 16 mm film( 1600 by
>> 1156 ). You can adjust your monitor on your computer to see the
>> difference. Picture quality will go down i.e. 720i is 1920 by 720. The
>> old picture quality on TV for the last 55 years has been NTSC which has
>> a resolution of 680 by 480.
>>The number of information displayed on a screen is 1920 times
>> 1080 equals 2,073,600. 1920 times 720 equals 1,382,400 and the old
>> picture we has seen for 55 years on TV is 640 times 480 equal 307,200.
>> Sport Jocks will as if the ball went foul and show the image on NTSC
>> which does not really show the  world that we sell with our eyes. It was
>> a joke and people not knowing will argue about the foul ball forever. To
>> summary this issue, the higher the resolution, the better the quality,
>> you can see line cracks on people's skin, and the image is on the low
>> level of showing the real world as seen through our eyes.
>>If you want the best color display, Sony or/and Panasonic has the
>> best. If you select RCA and make a comment about the color of the person
>> clothing, you are really not seeing what your eye see. There is a big
>> shift in the color Hues.
>>If you like to watch the soaps, theater, talk show on TV, go with
>> the plasma. Action viewing, sports, movies, and the like require the
>> CRT. CRT will keep up with the movement of action as the plasma does not
>> and shows blurs.
>> 720 P and the like, in my point of view, will be slow to come on
>> line. The media has resisted for over 50 years, and another change will
>> cost more.
>>One finally point, not all TV stations have HD cameras. If they buy
>> a cheap one, your see a cheap picture in HD. Colors will be poor,
>> resolution  like 720 and the like. All the major league football and
>> baseball have the best equipment, therefore, the best picture will be
>> displayed on your HD 1080i
>>
>> Check the like out for further info:
>> Bill
>> 1981 300 TD
>>
>> http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6361600-1.html
>>
>> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>> 
>>> I went and looked at some TV's.  Went to dead sams, worst buy, and wally
>>> world.  I have a few people(not working at the store, people I know)
>>> tell me that DLP is the best.  What do you all think?  They seem to have
>>> bigger screen and cheaper.  AT walmart, they had some of the 1080P and
>>> 720P LCD and plasmas.  It seemed like maybe the LCD had a better
>>> picture.  Could have been how it was adjusted at the store too.  I could
>>> not really tell for

Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb

2007-10-28 Thread tom savage
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Thanks dude, just letting me know I wish I had a lift.

The lift has revolutionized my life.  I don't even clean up bugs or 
brake dust without it anymore.

Side note: You don't have to adjust the length of the lift arms to go 
between lifting a Ponton coupe and a 140.

Tom

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Re: [MBZ] Changing fluid in a sealed transmission

2007-10-28 Thread tom savage
Craig McCluskey wrote:

> With as much as you have riding on it (no pun intended), I'm not sure I'd
> be comfortable doing that. Beside, if it leaks, you'll have quite a mess
> under the car.

I wasn't entirely comfortable with it either, but I was out of Helicoils 
and it just barely started to slip.  I doubt it lost any more tension 
than my torque wrench's margin of error.  I will keep an eye on it and a 
close look out for leaks, though; that fancy ATF is so expensive you'd 
think the Pentagon was buying.

Tom

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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew CorePrinciples

2007-10-28 Thread Hendrik & Fay
How do you know when a politician is lying?
You hear words coming out of their mouths.

Peter Frederick wrote:
> I think you are underestimating Al Gore.
>
> He did, after all, introduce the legislation that set up ARPA-Net, way 
> back before Microsoft, that became the internet.
>
> I don't think you could overpay him in heavy gold to run for President 
> again -- he said no, and means it, no matter what the right wing nut 
> case radio hosts say.
>
> Peter
>   
>   

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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew CorePrinciples

2007-10-28 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Whilst there is politics involved, it is a fair discussion to 
hypothesize what would happen if a self proclaimed GW activist has his 
hands on the levers of power. Would big cars be banned or heavily taxed? 
What about older cars without emission controls, such as old school 
Diesels?
What about a 20% carbon offset tax on fuel?

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> While I agree with you completely, lets keep the politics off the list.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chuck Landenberger wrote:
>   
>> 
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] Cars versus ecology {was Re: Germany's Social Democrats TurnLeft toRenew CorePrinciples]

2007-10-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig McCluskey wrote:
> A friend in Colorado has a Honda Civic with variable cam timing that
> gets 50 mpg.

It takes very careful driving and/or out of production tires to get 50mpg
with a Civic VX. If he's got an old 50hp CRX HF, 50mpg hwy is no big deal. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew Core Principles

2007-10-28 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Unfortunately all the scientist are busy finding water on Mars to look 
into climate change at this point in time, so who knows what is really 
going on.
What we do know is that the climate changes every now and then from hot 
to cold all by itself, whether we triggered/contributed it we don't 
know. However I got this sneaking suspicion that lowering emissions by 
10-20% by 2050 is like peeing on a bushfire.
Now might be a good time to invest in property in north Canada or Alaska.

Wonko the Sane wrote:
> Huh? Human contribution to global warning is insignificant? I must have
> missed the memo.
>
> On 10/28/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> And it's amazing that as more scientifc information comes in indicating
>> that the human contribution to global warming is insignificant
>> 
>
>
>
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford F250 6.9L diesel

2007-10-28 Thread Mitch Haley


Luther wrote:
> 
> My neighboor just purchased an '05 F350 1Ton that is rated to pull 30,000 
> lbs

A friend of mine has one for sale, low miles, 6x6, crew cab, auto tranny.
Local DOT is getting to be a pain with business owned trucks over 10k GVWR,
so he's going to sell it and get a F250. Paid $50k for it, looking for 
$30k or so. Anybody have a low mile 2006-07 3/4 ton ext cab or crew cab
with diesel and auto tranny they want to sell?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew CorePrinciples

2007-10-28 Thread Peter Frederick
I think you are underestimating Al Gore.

He did, after all, introduce the legislation that set up ARPA-Net, way 
back before Microsoft, that became the internet.

I don't think you could overpay him in heavy gold to run for President 
again -- he said no, and means it, no matter what the right wing nut 
case radio hosts say.

Peter

On Oct 28, 2007, at 9:34 PM, Hendrik & Fay wrote:

> Yeah i saw that program on the autobahn system. Costs a fortune to 
> build
> but lasts forever.
> I think Gore doesn't give a rats bottom about GW, all he cares about is
> keeping himself in the spotlight for another tilt at the presidency. 
> Now
> that he conned a Noble price out of them.
>
> LarryT wrote:
>> You wrote <> to better cars,>>
>>
>> Ain't THAT right!!   The History Channel ran a series of programs - 
>> one of
>> which was about The Autobahn.  There's a video of MB SL getting on 
>> the edge
>> of the road, overcorrected then flipped over and over from what was
>> estimated as 135+ mph - the car rolled to a stop and the 2 occupants
>> staggered out - it was positively amazing.  There's a lot of traffic 
>> cameras
>> and a sophisticated system to keep traffic flowing efficiently.  When 
>> a jam
>> occurs they can open the edge of the road as an additional lane.   
>> It's a
>> well made program - when it comes on again I hope you;ll get to see 
>> it.
>>
>> When mediocrity is all that is needed, that's all that will be 
>> provided.
>>
>> Then, you said: <>
>>
>> More likely the bulb blew. ;-)  While spending 8 years in the WH as 
>> VP, with
>> the 2nd best platform to make announcements from, he never mentioned 
>> GW as
>> being caused by mankind  and on track to destroy all life - Heck, I 
>> don't
>> think he mentioned it at all.  But, I guess that's another thing GWB
>> caused - all in 7 years.  Pretty good trick.  Course, after causing 
>> Katrina
>> a little GW (less than 1C in 100 years) would be a piece of cake.
>>
>> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew CorePrinciples

2007-10-28 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Yeah i saw that program on the autobahn system. Costs a fortune to build 
but lasts forever.
I think Gore doesn't give a rats bottom about GW, all he cares about is 
keeping himself in the spotlight for another tilt at the presidency. Now 
that he conned a Noble price out of them.

LarryT wrote:
> You wrote < to better cars,>>
>
> Ain't THAT right!!   The History Channel ran a series of programs - one of 
> which was about The Autobahn.  There's a video of MB SL getting on the edge 
> of the road, overcorrected then flipped over and over from what was 
> estimated as 135+ mph - the car rolled to a stop and the 2 occupants 
> staggered out - it was positively amazing.  There's a lot of traffic cameras 
> and a sophisticated system to keep traffic flowing efficiently.  When a jam 
> occurs they can open the edge of the road as an additional lane.   It's a 
> well made program - when it comes on again I hope you;ll get to see it.
>
> When mediocrity is all that is needed, that's all that will be provided.
>
> Then, you said: <>
>
> More likely the bulb blew. ;-)  While spending 8 years in the WH as VP, with 
> the 2nd best platform to make announcements from, he never mentioned GW as 
> being caused by mankind  and on track to destroy all life - Heck, I don't 
> think he mentioned it at all.  But, I guess that's another thing GWB 
> caused - all in 7 years.  Pretty good trick.  Course, after causing Katrina 
> a little GW (less than 1C in 100 years) would be a piece of cake.
>
> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
>   
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] OT, tv again

2007-10-28 Thread John Freer
Bill, all the info I read said the Plasma was better for action sports
although the LCD is catching up with faster refresh rates. I saw this
demonstrated in a Big Box store showing a NASCAR race tape side by
side. LCD had shadows (ghosts) behind the cars, Plasma did not. Sets
were made by the same maker.

John

On 10/29/07, b_gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The best resolution right now is the 1080i. It's has a resolution of
> 1920 by 1080 which  is just under the resolution of 16 mm film( 1600 by
> 1156 ). You can adjust your monitor on your computer to see the
> difference. Picture quality will go down i.e. 720i is 1920 by 720. The
> old picture quality on TV for the last 55 years has been NTSC which has
> a resolution of 680 by 480.
>The number of information displayed on a screen is 1920 times
> 1080 equals 2,073,600. 1920 times 720 equals 1,382,400 and the old
> picture we has seen for 55 years on TV is 640 times 480 equal 307,200.
> Sport Jocks will as if the ball went foul and show the image on NTSC
> which does not really show the  world that we sell with our eyes. It was
> a joke and people not knowing will argue about the foul ball forever. To
> summary this issue, the higher the resolution, the better the quality,
> you can see line cracks on people's skin, and the image is on the low
> level of showing the real world as seen through our eyes.
>If you want the best color display, Sony or/and Panasonic has the
> best. If you select RCA and make a comment about the color of the person
> clothing, you are really not seeing what your eye see. There is a big
> shift in the color Hues.
>If you like to watch the soaps, theater, talk show on TV, go with
> the plasma. Action viewing, sports, movies, and the like require the
> CRT. CRT will keep up with the movement of action as the plasma does not
> and shows blurs.
> 720 P and the like, in my point of view, will be slow to come on
> line. The media has resisted for over 50 years, and another change will
> cost more.
>One finally point, not all TV stations have HD cameras. If they buy
> a cheap one, your see a cheap picture in HD. Colors will be poor,
> resolution  like 720 and the like. All the major league football and
> baseball have the best equipment, therefore, the best picture will be
> displayed on your HD 1080i
>
> Check the like out for further info:
> Bill
> 1981 300 TD
>
> http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6361600-1.html
>
> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> > I went and looked at some TV's.  Went to dead sams, worst buy, and wally
> > world.  I have a few people(not working at the store, people I know)
> > tell me that DLP is the best.  What do you all think?  They seem to have
> > bigger screen and cheaper.  AT walmart, they had some of the 1080P and
> > 720P LCD and plasmas.  It seemed like maybe the LCD had a better
> > picture.  Could have been how it was adjusted at the store too.  I could
> > not really tell for sure if the 1080P was that much better than the
> > 720P.  Is it really paying a big different for the higher resolution?
> > Also, Walmart had a couple of 50" DLP models, one was an RCA for $9xx,
> > the other I think was a phillips for $8xx.  Seems like a good deal to
> > me.  The picture on the RCA was better than the phillips, but again,
> > they might not have been adjusted very good.  The RCA didnt seem to have
> > as good of a picture as the LCD's and plasmas.  It was a 720P.  I have
> > also heard the DLP is better in the fact that when it comes time to
> > replace the bulb, its easier and cheaper to do.
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Weather S. of Calhan, CO

2007-10-28 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:30:40 -0500 "wilton strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> 'Bout what I thought, Craig.  Thnx.
> I, too, have lived in some areas with some harsh Winter days but, also,
> some fantastically beautiful Winter days:  Lincoln, NE; Sault Ste.
> Marie, MI; Sondrestrom Air Base, Greenland (30 mi N. of Arctic Cir)

I'll bet the last one REALLY defines harsh weather!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT, tv again

2007-10-28 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:09:15 -0500 b_gallagher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> The old picture quality on TV for the last 55 years has been NTSC which
> has a resolution of 680 by 480.

NTSC (old-fashioned TV) has 525 lines vertical, by definition. The
horizontal resolution depends upon the quality of the set and the
transmission medium.


Craig

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[MBZ] Weather S. of Calhan, CO

2007-10-28 Thread wilton strickland
'Bout what I thought, Craig.  Thnx.
I, too, have lived in some areas with some harsh Winter days but, also, some
fantastically beautiful Winter days:  Lincoln, NE; Sault Ste. Marie, MI;
Sondrestrom Air Base, Greenland (30 mi N. of Arctic Cir)


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Re: [MBZ] Changing fluid in a sealed transmission

2007-10-28 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:21:00 -0500 tom savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The problem was that whoever changed it last must have used an impact
> wrench to tighten the pan bolts, as the threads came out with one of the
> bolts. Helicoil to the rescue, then when torquing another down I felt
> the threads let go right as the wrench clicked.  I'll worry about that
> one next time.

With as much as you have riding on it (no pun intended), I'm not sure I'd
be comfortable doing that. Beside, if it leaks, you'll have quite a mess
under the car.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew CorePrinciples

2007-10-28 Thread Hendrik & Fay
The are paved mostly but only just. Build on the principle of do it 
cheap and then keep patching them up.
They are only dual lane near the cities.

archer wrote:
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Hendrik & Fay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   
>> This is one of the frustrations of living in Oz, we have long distances 
>> between cities but a third world highway network. The rail network is no 
>> better and as such air travel is popular.
>> 
>
> You don't have many paved highways/roads in Australia?
>
> Gerry
>
>
>
>   

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[MBZ] Changing fluid in a sealed transmission

2007-10-28 Thread tom savage
I changed the fluid in my "sealed for life" transmission today.  It had 
been changed before, about 60k miles ago, but still way overdue.

The good news is that changing the fluid in a sealed tranny is actually 
easier than it is in my 300D.  The old fluid was old but not burnt and 
there was barely any sludge in the pan.  The fancy Mercedes ATF is 
purple-er and thinner than Mobil 1.  Smells worse.

The problem was that whoever changed it last must have used an impact 
wrench to tighten the pan bolts, as the threads came out with one of the 
bolts.  Helicoil to the rescue, then when torquing another down I felt 
the threads let go right as the wrench clicked.  I'll worry about that 
one next time.

In all, W140 maintenance, even the "Don't touch!" parts, is as simple as 
a W123.  Repair work hasn't proven to be much more difficult, either. 
Electro-diagnostics is another story, but will provide an excuse to buy 
more tools.

Tom

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Re: [MBZ] OT, tv again

2007-10-28 Thread b_gallagher
The best resolution right now is the 1080i. It's has a resolution of 
1920 by 1080 which  is just under the resolution of 16 mm film( 1600 by 
1156 ). You can adjust your monitor on your computer to see the 
difference. Picture quality will go down i.e. 720i is 1920 by 720. The 
old picture quality on TV for the last 55 years has been NTSC which has 
a resolution of 680 by 480.
The number of information displayed on a screen is 1920 times 
1080 equals 2,073,600. 1920 times 720 equals 1,382,400 and the old 
picture we has seen for 55 years on TV is 640 times 480 equal 307,200. 
Sport Jocks will as if the ball went foul and show the image on NTSC 
which does not really show the  world that we sell with our eyes. It was 
a joke and people not knowing will argue about the foul ball forever. To 
summary this issue, the higher the resolution, the better the quality, 
you can see line cracks on people's skin, and the image is on the low 
level of showing the real world as seen through our eyes.
If you want the best color display, Sony or/and Panasonic has the 
best. If you select RCA and make a comment about the color of the person 
clothing, you are really not seeing what your eye see. There is a big 
shift in the color Hues.
If you like to watch the soaps, theater, talk show on TV, go with 
the plasma. Action viewing, sports, movies, and the like require the 
CRT. CRT will keep up with the movement of action as the plasma does not 
and shows blurs.
 720 P and the like, in my point of view, will be slow to come on 
line. The media has resisted for over 50 years, and another change will 
cost more.
One finally point, not all TV stations have HD cameras. If they buy 
a cheap one, your see a cheap picture in HD. Colors will be poor, 
resolution  like 720 and the like. All the major league football and 
baseball have the best equipment, therefore, the best picture will be 
displayed on your HD 1080i

Check the like out for further info:
Bill
1981 300 TD

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6361600-1.html

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> I went and looked at some TV's.  Went to dead sams, worst buy, and wally 
> world.  I have a few people(not working at the store, people I know) 
> tell me that DLP is the best.  What do you all think?  They seem to have 
> bigger screen and cheaper.  AT walmart, they had some of the 1080P and 
> 720P LCD and plasmas.  It seemed like maybe the LCD had a better 
> picture.  Could have been how it was adjusted at the store too.  I could 
> not really tell for sure if the 1080P was that much better than the 
> 720P.  Is it really paying a big different for the higher resolution? 
> Also, Walmart had a couple of 50" DLP models, one was an RCA for $9xx, 
> the other I think was a phillips for $8xx.  Seems like a good deal to 
> me.  The picture on the RCA was better than the phillips, but again, 
> they might not have been adjusted very good.  The RCA didnt seem to have 
> as good of a picture as the LCD's and plasmas.  It was a 720P.  I have 
> also heard the DLP is better in the fact that when it comes time to 
> replace the bulb, its easier and cheaper to do.
>   

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Re: [MBZ] Replacing diesel shut off valve on an 87 300D

2007-10-28 Thread Peter Frederick
ALDA has to come off because you cannot reach the OTHER screw on the 
far side.  Captive nut, hold the body with one big wrench and use 
another to unscrew the nut, then fiddle around until it comes out 
(there is a trick).  Quite easy if you pull the manifold, but I did it 
without.

You will have to remove the windshield washer tank.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] MB creates wife right husband wrong condition -brake lights

2007-10-28 Thread Tom Hargrave
Fortunately, Women tend to be the more tolerant of the two sexes. If this
were not true then mankind would have been destined for extinction long,
long ago.

Thanks,
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lights

As with many things, it is not so much the stuff we don't know that gets us
into trouble as the stuff we are sure of that is wrong. Fortunately they
continue to love us  
BillR

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When *will* you learn - you must never doubt the female.   They may not know

everything but when they make a comment, it's usually true.  Men, OTOH, 
myself included, will weigh the odds of her knowing more than I and make a 
comment based on a guess.  As long as she doesn't call my bluff I'm ok - 
usually I get caught and yet I continue to hold my position - thus digging 
my grave even deeper.

Afterwards I'm amazed at how confident I tried to appear in defending what 
was basically a guess.

Will I learn?  Well, I've been married almost 40 years to the same wonderful

woman and haven't learned yet.  I *have* learned to keep quiet more often --

Saying stuff gets me in trouble (sometimes I just can't help myself) - then 
I get deperate to dig my way out by saying stuff with little or no basis in 
reality - which explains why I'm usually unsuccessful in reversing the 
situation. ;-/

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Subject: [MBZ] MB creates wife right husband wrong condition - brake lights


> Must sell both Mercedes. Last night when investigating a tail light
> that was out, I discovered that the brake lights didn't work either
> (190D). So wife comes into garage and I tell her what I'm doing as I'm
> under the hood switching out a fuse.
>
> She says try turning on the key. I say with complete confidence (rare
> for me on any topic) that you don't need the key for the brake lights
> to operate. I even said "that's a guarantee". She says just try it -
> humor me. I put the key in and turn and the brake lights work. I go
> over to the 240, and same thing!
>
> I have not before seen a vehicle that requires the key to operate the
> brake lights! Thanks for scoring one for the enemy, MB. I would expect
> this from a Volvo.
>
> Brian
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Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb

2007-10-28 Thread Tom Hargrave
The lift I had access to was under a ceiling that was maybe 16' high? One of
my father's friends had the garage built with a high bay on one side and a
second floor in the other. I think I'd prefer a 12 - 14' ceiling myself. In
the winter, he'd turn on a huge ceiling mounted gas heater and it would just
start to feel warm in an hour.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb



Tom Hargrave wrote:
> 
> Wish I still had access to a rack myself.

I consider it a necessity, even if I have to buy a $1295 POS and put it
under a 10' ceiling. (With a 10' ceiling, most people can stand under
most cars, but they have to be careful not to lift too far)

My next place will be at least 12' and I'll put a clear floor lift in it.
No more floor plate between the towers to get in the way of the tranny jack.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb

2007-10-28 Thread Tom Hargrave
Plans for the next house include a professional lift or a drive over pit.

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Dude, you are making me feel bad.

Tom Hargrave wrote:
> With the transmission, a lift helps a lot. You just undo the tranny mount,
> walk over & shove the tail shaft over with a long pry bar (4' galvanized
> steel fence post) & wedge something in there to keep it in place.
> 
> Wish I still had access to a rack myself.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
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Re: [MBZ] Losing coolant, somewhere

2007-10-28 Thread Scott Ritchey
I strongly recommend the McParts "loaner" pressure testers.  So much so, in
fact, that I decided to keep the one I borrowed/bought.  I also recommend
testing cold first; leaks are more visible and you can quickly establish
leaking if the pressure decays.  You can often hear "air" leaks above the
waterline.  If the water level is topped off, pressure decay is very
obvious.  If the leak is external, you should be able to find it.  If it
won't leak cold, then try it hot but don't get burned.  Very hot water will
boil out if you open the cap when it's really hot.

Scott Ritchey

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Losing coolant, somewhere

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:23:18 -0500 Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> Harry Watkins wrote:
> > 
> > Why not pressure test the system with the engine warm?  Some of the
> > macparts places may do it for free.
> 
> You can borrow a radiator/cap pressure tester at Autozone. Just pay for
> the thing and they refund your money when you return it.

Good idea.

I was loosing coolant when using our 240D radiator as a temporary (1.5
years) substitute while I got a new 300D radiator. It was always loosing
water and I couldn't figure out where. I now think it was leaking at the
driver's side end of the joint between the core and the top header.
Replacing the radiator fixed the problem and I now have no coolant leaks.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Replacing diesel shut off valve on an 87 300D

2007-10-28 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:16:55 -0400 "Bob Morrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I have the replacement valve.  Can I just undo that screw holding it
> down, remove the vacuum tube, remove the overhead wire to the, I think,
> idle control and pull the valve out without taking the ALDA valve out? 
> Has anyone done this and do you have any suggestions?

I don't have a W124, so I'm no help. Sorry.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] IowaQ pics

2007-10-28 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:14:01 -0500 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Too late.

I noticed.


Craig

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[MBZ] Ignition switch problems [was: Re: Losing coolant, somewhere]

2007-10-28 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:38:01 -0500 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Which reminds me -- did you fix that ignition thang (not a typo) of
> which you sent me photos?

No, I haven't fixed it yet because I haven't had a chance to call Rusty to
order a new steering column lock assembly (to the tune of $156, which is
better than a car payment, I keep telling myself). But with typing,
"thang," you're making yourself sound like a Texan. Heard that a lot
there.


> I laughed when I saw them, because I sold Debbie's Pontiac 6000 as a
> "screwdriver start" car to a teenager -- he thought it was cool. The
> ignition switch failed w/ a key but worked great w/ screwdriver.

In this case, a screwdriver would not have helped, because the failure was
behind the steering column lock mechanism. Pulling the lock cylinder only
gets you to the front of the column lock mechanism.

I am most thankful that it worked enough for us to get home. I could have
jimmyed things enough to get us home if I had had to, but working on it
out in the wind (and a week ago it was rather windy in southern Colorado
and northern New Mexico) would have been no fun. As I mentioned, there
were three or for times I left Shirley and Ori in the car with the engine
running so I wouldn't have to chance not getting it started if I turned it
off.


Craig

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[MBZ] Replacing diesel shut off valve on an 87 300D

2007-10-28 Thread Bob Morrison
I have the replacement valve.  Can I just undo that screw holding it down,
remove the vacuum tube, remove the overhead wire to the, I think, idle
control and pull the valve out without taking the ALDA valve out?  Has
anyone done this and do you have any suggestions?

 

Bob Morrison

 

 

 

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Re: [MBZ] IowaQ pics

2007-10-28 Thread Wonko the Sane
Too late.

On 10/28/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:45:46 -0500 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > PCLinuxOS is bi- well, I was going to say something else but will
> > correct to bi-lingual.
> >
> > Check for yourself. Actually, no, cause it would clog up the list. Will
> > send back privately.
>
> There's no need to send it back, I still have it.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] IowaQ pics

2007-10-28 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:45:46 -0500 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> PCLinuxOS is bi- well, I was going to say something else but will
> correct to bi-lingual.
> 
> Check for yourself. Actually, no, cause it would clog up the list. Will
> send back privately.

There's no need to send it back, I still have it.


Craig

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[MBZ] Weather south of Calhan, Colorado [was Re: IowaQ pics]

2007-10-28 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:37:12 -0500 "wilton strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Winter temps at the estate in pics 16 - 20?

That one is four miles south of Calhan, Colorado, at an elevation of about
6980'. Winters there were (are) tough, not so much because of the temps,
but because of the wind and, frequently, lack of moisture. A couple of
times in our 6-year stint on the hilltop it got to zero, but mostly
winters were 10 - 20 degrees F. The Colorado weather pattern was typical
at that location as well as elsewhere: 1 - 3 days of horrible weather,
blowing snow and cold, then things stabilized and would warm up into the
30s with clear, beautiful blue skies. But out there on the hilltop, it was
pretty miserable compared to what it was like in Calhan itself (highest
non-mountainous town in the US, when we were there, a bustling metropolis
of 586).

Some friends in Calhan, long time locals, said they were amazed we lasted
out there a long as we did because of the harsh winters. And, actually, it
wasn't the winters that prompted us to move back to Colorado Springs. It
was the fact that I had taken a job where I could work out of our home and
Shirley still had to drive into Colorado Springs for work. Before then, I
worked for Hewlett-Packard and did the brunt of the driving into the
Springs and back home.

I recall one evening we were headed the 30 miles back home from the
Springs and stopped at a convenience store south of the Black Forest. It
was snowing pretty bad and the clerk at the store thought that the road
(Woodmen Valley Road) was closed but wasn't sure. I thought we could make
it and got the phone number of the convenience store. I told the clerk
that we were going to drive to the convenience store out on Highway 24 and
would then call her to tell her we made it. If she didn't get a call in a
reasonable amount of time, she was to assume we were stuck. Well, we did
make it with no problem and did call her. We then proceeded northeast on
Highway 24. It was better there as far as the amount of snow (Woodman
Valley Road had fences and other stuff on the north side of the road that
would trap snow, whereas Highway 24 did not), but the visibility was poor.
I just kept slowly plugging along, frequently looking out the driver's
door at the yellow line in the center of the road. We made it home with no
problems and joined our two German Shepherd Dogs in the Little Mobile Home
on the Praire. I was suprised at the lack of traffic on the road. I found
out the next day that Highway 24 had been closed where it leaves Colorado
Springs, so we, entering it miles north of there, never encountered
anyone.

In the summers the meadowlarks were plentiful --  a very beautiful bird
and a lovely song. It was gorgeous out there in the spring, summer, and
fall, and that made up for the winters.

The fellow who bought the place from us tried to plant and grow trees
(something we didn't try because for most of the 6 years we were hauling
water from Colorado Springs). He said that with a fair amount of care,
he'd get 1 out of 4 plantings to survive. The dryness is a real problem.
In a not-so-snowy winter the cold wind would dessicate the plants.

All in all, though, if I had a chance to live there again, I would have to
think at least twice before turning it down.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] IowaQ pics

2007-10-28 Thread Wonko the Sane
PCLinuxOS is bi- well, I was going to say something else but will correct to
bi-lingual.

Check for yourself. Actually, no, cause it would clog up the list. Will send
back privately.

On 10/28/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:34:24 -0500 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Craig:
> >
> > Check the zip file you sent me. But I just did, so don't bother.
> >
> > You sent me 31 pics, with 30 and 31 being duplicates of 28 and 29.
> >
> > I will be happy to send the .zip back to you if you want to check at
> > your end.   ;-)
>
> Well, what do you know. But my picture directory (right next to it in
> ~/pictures+graphics/Nikon) has only 29. Hmmm ...
>
>
> Craig
>
> P.S. I wasn't thinking when I made a .zip, I should have made a .tgz.
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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew CorePrinciples

2007-10-28 Thread Wonko the Sane
Good save.

On 10/28/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> While I agree with you completely, lets keep the politics off the list.
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] IowaQ pics

2007-10-28 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:34:24 -0500 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Craig:
> 
> Check the zip file you sent me. But I just did, so don't bother.
> 
> You sent me 31 pics, with 30 and 31 being duplicates of 28 and 29.
> 
> I will be happy to send the .zip back to you if you want to check at
> your end.   ;-)

Well, what do you know. But my picture directory (right next to it in
~/pictures+graphics/Nikon) has only 29. Hmmm ...


Craig

P.S. I wasn't thinking when I made a .zip, I should have made a .tgz.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford F250 6.9L diesel

2007-10-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
BT, WRONG.  First, I doubt its rated to pull 30k.  It might be, but 
who knows.  2nd, if you are pulling 30k, better have a commercial 
drivers licence and proper DOT inspections etc.  Anything over 26k is 
commercial.

Luther wrote:
> My neighboor just purchased an '05 F350 1Ton that is rated to pull 30,000 
> lbs
> 
> Luther
> 
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:03:21 -0600, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> IIRC, the Sprinter has a curb weight of around 5200#.  This F250 should be
>> nearly the same since my '85 F350 crewcab dually weighed 5400#.  That truck
>> wasn't nearly as fast as the new Dodge, but it did well enough.  It towed
>> our 4000# boat 35MPH up the 2 mile hill out of The Cove (Lake Billy Chinook)
>> in Central Oregon.  I don't think I would recommend the $500 F250 for towing
>> the 6000#+ dragon boat trailer on a long trip, but it could tow them across
>> town for repairs.  The dragon boat club is going to buy a truck and set up
>> the Mobile Race Unit (MRU) so that they can haul boats and gear and put on a
>> race anywhere.
>> Back to towing capacity, the Ford 6.9L pickups  were rated to tow 1#
>> IIRC which I believe was the best at that time for a Diesel pickup.  Ford
>> currently has the highest towing capacity now at something like 17500#.
>>
>> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
>> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
>>
>>

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Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb

2007-10-28 Thread Wonko the Sane
That is what I miss most about Jeff (you met Jeff, didn't you?) leaving his
job at Goodyear and taking a job with the DOT. I really miss his having
access to a lift.

On 10/28/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks dude, just letting me know I wish I had a lift.
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] IowaQ pics

2007-10-28 Thread Wonko the Sane
He forgot the minus sign before the temps.

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> Winter temps at the estate in pics 16 - 20?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew CorePrinciples

2007-10-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
While I agree with you completely, lets keep the politics off the list.

Thanks

Chuck Landenberger wrote:
> I've been reluctant to join in on this thread...
> 
> But, if Clinton wins, can you for a moment imagine what Al Gore will  
> do as Secretary of Energy or Transportation?
> 
> Woe be unto all of us!
> 
> Chuck
> Phoenix AZ
> On Oct 28, 2007, at 4:20 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
> 
>> Hendrik & Fay wrote:
>>> Far as Gore goes, I wonder what he has personally done to lower his
>>> carbon footprint?
>> He "buys carbon offsets", so that makes his consumption all right.
>> If you have more money than fortitude, you can just buy yourself
>> into ecological utopia. 
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Re: [MBZ] Losing coolant, somewhere

2007-10-28 Thread Wonko the Sane
Which reminds me -- did you fix that ignition thang (not a typo) of which
you sent me photos?

I laughed when I saw them, because I sold Debbie's Pontiac 6000 as a
"screwdriver start" car to a teenager -- he thought it was cool. The
ignition switch failed w/ a key but worked great w/ screwdriver.

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> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:23:18 -0500 Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> I was loosing coolant when using our 240D radiator as a temporary (1.5
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Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb

2007-10-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Dude, you are making me feel bad.

Tom Hargrave wrote:
> With the transmission, a lift helps a lot. You just undo the tranny mount,
> walk over & shove the tail shaft over with a long pry bar (4' galvanized
> steel fence post) & wedge something in there to keep it in place.
> 
> Wish I still had access to a rack myself.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
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Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb

2007-10-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Thanks dude, just letting me know I wish I had a lift.

Tom Hargrave wrote:
> There is a world of difference between working on a car in a driveway
> and working on a car on a rack. Brakes take 2X longer in the driveway
> and some other jobs can be an easy 5X longer in the driveway.
> 
> Thanks, Tom
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[MBZ] IowaQ pics

2007-10-28 Thread wilton strickland
Winter temps at the estate in pics 16 - 20?

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] IowaQ pics

2007-10-28 Thread Wonko the Sane
Craig:

Check the zip file you sent me. But I just did, so don't bother.

You sent me 31 pics, with 30 and 31 being duplicates of 28 and 29.

I will be happy to send the .zip back to you if you want to check at your
end.   ;-)

D.


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> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:41:19 -0500 "wilton strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> > Craig, what are winter temps there on that mighty fine looking estate
> > with the fantastic views?
>
> Which one? The one in pictures 16 - 20, or the one in pictures 25 - 29?
> (Don duplicated pictures 30 and 31; guess he thought they were so good
> they would bear repeating.  :-) )
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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to RenewCorePrinciples

2007-10-28 Thread Wonko the Sane
I think they are called Carbon Credits. You pay Carbon Credit dollars to the
RNC and they bless you when you pollute.

On 10/28/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Both sides!
>



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Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb

2007-10-28 Thread Wonko the Sane
Yes, Luther, I know. Go to your room ... oh, sorry, you're already there.

On 10/28/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> NO, that's on the rails of the LIFT!  Geeze, get with the picture old man!
> :)
>
> Luther
>
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:09:40 -0600, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > You idiot. Under the flat tires is where you set 'da beer.
> >
> > KIDS!
> >
> > On 10/28/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> What difference does it make if the tires are flat?  The rack supports
> it
> >> from the frame
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to RenewCorePrinciples

2007-10-28 Thread OK Don
Both sides!


> > Hm...Is that something like when the Church used to sell
> > "indulgences" where you used to be able to get away with most any
> > horrendous crime or do other bad things but then buy your way out of it?
>
> You know, you might have a point there, considering the religious fervor
> the zealots display about the subject.

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Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb

2007-10-28 Thread Luther
NO, that's on the rails of the LIFT!  Geeze, get with the picture old man! :)

Luther

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:09:40 -0600, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You idiot. Under the flat tires is where you set 'da beer.
>
> KIDS!
>
> On 10/28/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> What difference does it make if the tires are flat?  The rack supports it
>> from the frame
>>
>>
>>
>
>



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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: B2 links

2007-10-28 Thread Allan Streib

On Oct 28, 2007, at 8:08 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

> For whoever was interested -- here is a link from the archives where
> my B2 writeup is posted.

That was Edward -- sorry, I had deleted your email by mistake.

>
> Also linked is an article about the B2 repair from the old mbz.org
> site, courtesy of the Wayback Machine.  This is where the part
> numbers are listed.
>
> Also in my post the other day I said I did the K2 upgrade, it
> actually is the K1 upgrade according to the article.
>
>
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mercedes@okiebenz.com/msg32874.html
>>
>> http://web.archive.org/web/20060831211145/
>> transmission.articles.mbz.org/b2/repair/
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Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb

2007-10-28 Thread Allan Streib

On Oct 28, 2007, at 5:20 PM, Gary Thompson wrote:

> Complete B2 replacement with  new seals can be done "in about 10
> minutes"... with the transmission out of the car. :^)
>
> Takes me more than 20 minutes just to remove the old seal that holds
> the bushing in place with the transmission in situ. Can't see what
> you're doing and have to work by feel.

 From what Edward wrote, it sounds like the friend did not pull that  
seal or replace the bushing.  Just stuck in a new (used) piston.

That seal took a good chunk of time for me too, including fabricating  
a tool to get it out.


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Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb

2007-10-28 Thread Wonko the Sane
You idiot. Under the flat tires is where you set 'da beer.

KIDS!

On 10/28/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> What difference does it make if the tires are flat?  The rack supports it
> from the frame
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] IowaQ pics

2007-10-28 Thread Wonko the Sane
I will deduct 5% from what you are paying me in hosting fees.  

On 10/28/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> (Don duplicated pictures 30 and 31; guess he thought they were so good
> they would bear repeating.  :-) )
>
>
> Craig
>
>


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[MBZ] Fwd: B2 links

2007-10-28 Thread Allan Streib
For whoever was interested -- here is a link from the archives where  
my B2 writeup is posted.

Also linked is an article about the B2 repair from the old mbz.org  
site, courtesy of the Wayback Machine.  This is where the part  
numbers are listed.

Also in my post the other day I said I did the K2 upgrade, it  
actually is the K1 upgrade according to the article.


> http://www.mail-archive.com/mercedes@okiebenz.com/msg32874.html
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20060831211145/ 
> transmission.articles.mbz.org/b2/repair/

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Re: [MBZ] IowaQ pics

2007-10-28 Thread Wonko the Sane
I did?

On 10/28/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:41:19 -0500 "wilton strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Craig, what are winter temps there on that mighty fine looking estate
> > with the fantastic views?
>
> Which one? The one in pictures 16 - 20, or the one in pictures 25 - 29?
> (Don duplicated pictures 30 and 31; guess he thought they were so good
> they would bear repeating.  :-) )
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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew Core Principles

2007-10-28 Thread Wonko the Sane
Huh? Human contribution to global warning is insignificant? I must have
missed the memo.

On 10/28/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> And it's amazing that as more scientifc information comes in indicating
> that the human contribution to global warming is insignificant




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Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb

2007-10-28 Thread Luther
What difference does it make if the tires are flat?  The rack supports it from 
the frame

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:54:03 -0600, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You obviously haven't met me or Luther (and Luther is a bit shorter than I
> am).
>
> Maybe a 10' ceiling if under an MGB, top down  windshield removed ...
> tires flat.
>
> On 10/28/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> With a 10' ceiling, most people can stand under
>> most cars,
>
>



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Re: [MBZ] Losing coolant, somewhere

2007-10-28 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:23:18 -0500 Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> Harry Watkins wrote:
> > 
> > Why not pressure test the system with the engine warm?  Some of the
> > macparts places may do it for free.
> 
> You can borrow a radiator/cap pressure tester at Autozone. Just pay for
> the thing and they refund your money when you return it.

Good idea.

I was loosing coolant when using our 240D radiator as a temporary (1.5
years) substitute while I got a new 300D radiator. It was always loosing
water and I couldn't figure out where. I now think it was leaking at the
driver's side end of the joint between the core and the top header.
Replacing the radiator fixed the problem and I now have no coolant leaks.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] IowaQ pics

2007-10-28 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:41:19 -0500 "wilton strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Craig, what are winter temps there on that mighty fine looking estate
> with the fantastic views?

Which one? The one in pictures 16 - 20, or the one in pictures 25 - 29?
(Don duplicated pictures 30 and 31; guess he thought they were so good
they would bear repeating.  :-) )


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[MBZ] Cars versus ecology {was Re: Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left toRenew CorePrinciples]

2007-10-28 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:25:26 -0400 "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We'll all be driving a Prius!

No one mentions how much other, non-renewable the Prius uses in its
manfacture. And then more when the battery pack is worn out.

A good diesel has it beat by a mile when overall resource usage is
considered. And some of the gas cars do well, too. A friend in Colorado
has a Honda Civic with variable cam timing that gets 50 mpg.


> Yuck!!

Indeed. And that doesn't even consider what happens in an accident. I
wonder just exactly where the battery pack is located and what happens to
all that weight in a crash.


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Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb

2007-10-28 Thread Wonko the Sane
You obviously haven't met me or Luther (and Luther is a bit shorter than I
am).

Maybe a 10' ceiling if under an MGB, top down  windshield removed ...
tires flat.

On 10/28/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> With a 10' ceiling, most people can stand under
> most cars,


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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to RenewCorePrinciples

2007-10-28 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:38:44 -0700 "Barry Stark"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hm...Is that something like when the Church used to sell
> "indulgences" where you used to be able to get away with most any
> horrendous crime or do other bad things but then buy your way out of it?

You know, you might have a point there, considering the religious fervor
the zealots display about the subject.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford F250 6.9L diesel

2007-10-28 Thread Luther
My neighboor just purchased an '05 F350 1Ton that is rated to pull 30,000 
lbs

Luther

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:03:21 -0600, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> IIRC, the Sprinter has a curb weight of around 5200#.  This F250 should be
> nearly the same since my '85 F350 crewcab dually weighed 5400#.  That truck
> wasn't nearly as fast as the new Dodge, but it did well enough.  It towed
> our 4000# boat 35MPH up the 2 mile hill out of The Cove (Lake Billy Chinook)
> in Central Oregon.  I don't think I would recommend the $500 F250 for towing
> the 6000#+ dragon boat trailer on a long trip, but it could tow them across
> town for repairs.  The dragon boat club is going to buy a truck and set up
> the Mobile Race Unit (MRU) so that they can haul boats and gear and put on a
> race anywhere.
> Back to towing capacity, the Ford 6.9L pickups  were rated to tow 1#
> IIRC which I believe was the best at that time for a Diesel pickup.  Ford
> currently has the highest towing capacity now at something like 17500#.
>
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb

2007-10-28 Thread Mitch Haley


Tom Hargrave wrote:
> 
> Wish I still had access to a rack myself.

I consider it a necessity, even if I have to buy a $1295 POS and put it
under a 10' ceiling. (With a 10' ceiling, most people can stand under
most cars, but they have to be careful not to lift too far)

My next place will be at least 12' and I'll put a clear floor lift in it.
No more floor plate between the towers to get in the way of the tranny jack. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left toRenew CorePrinciples

2007-10-28 Thread LarryT
We'll all be driving a Prius!
Yuck!!

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Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:48 PM
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CorePrinciples


> I've been reluctant to join in on this thread...
>
> But, if Clinton wins, can you for a moment imagine what Al Gore will
> do as Secretary of Energy or Transportation?
>
> Woe be unto all of us!
>
> Chuck
> Phoenix AZ
> On Oct 28, 2007, at 4:20 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
>
>> Hendrik & Fay wrote:
>>> Far as Gore goes, I wonder what he has personally done to lower his
>>> carbon footprint?
>>
>> He "buys carbon offsets", so that makes his consumption all right.
>> If you have more money than fortitude, you can just buy yourself
>> into ecological utopia. 
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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left toRenewCorePrinciples

2007-10-28 Thread LarryT
You wrote: <>

Money talks!

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Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:38 PM
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toRenewCorePrinciples


> Hm...Is that something like when the Church used to sell "indulgences"
> where you used to be able to get away with most any horrendous crime or do
> other bad things but then buy your way out of it?
>
>
>>
>> Hendrik & Fay wrote:
>> > Far as Gore goes, I wonder what he has personally done to lower his
>> > carbon footprint?
>>
>> He "buys carbon offsets", so that makes his consumption all right.
>> If you have more money than fortitude, you can just buy yourself
>> into ecological utopia. 
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Mr. green

2007-10-28 Thread LarryT
You wrote:<>

It's OK - you;re right - he wrote a book (likely ghost wrote) and it was 
published because of his name not because of qualifications (which are 
zero).

Your comparision to M Moore is spot on.  I wonder if Moore will fly to Cuba 
(whom he says has world class health care) to get the health care he will 
surely need before long.  With his weight he can't be all that healthy.  IMO 
it wasn't too bright to alienate a whole industry that you;ll depend on one 
day.

What goes around, comes around.

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- Original Message - 
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Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 4:08 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Mr. green


>> Algore, the gift that keeps on giving...
>>
>> At a conference on climate change in Berlin last week, Nobel laureate Al
>> Gore last week criticized Germany in a speech for not having motorway
>> speed limits. 
>
>
>
> It amazes me that so many folks think this man(Gore)really knows what he 
> is
> talking about. I also amazes me that more folks don't see him for the
> hypocrite that he is. The list is so long it is almost laughable. Some of
> the most glaring stuff...
>
> His bizjet that he owns, often flying alone when he could use a commercial
> flight, is a very old design known to be one of the worst polluters using
> great quantities of fuel
>
> With his multiple large homes he uses 20 times more energy than the 
> average
> family uses in one year.
>
> He drives gas guzzler cars, in fact Al's one of the biggest private
> shareholders in Occidental Petroleum.
>
> his zinc mines have been the cause of numerous complaints by the local
> environmental authorities for polluting the local rivers for years It got 
> so
> bad that the mines were shut down in 2003 but they will re-open soon.
>
> This and more but he can sure tell everyone else how they must alter their
> lifestyles to reduce their CO2 output and save the earth
>
> His documentaries are almost on par with Moore's for lock of credibility
>
> And this guy has the "use your own wording here" to tell the Germans how
> they should run their own country
>
> Don't ya just love the kinds of (incompetent)"leaders" our country has 
> these
> days!
>
> Sorry for the rantbut now I feel better
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew CorePrinciples

2007-10-28 Thread LarryT
You wrote <>

Ain't THAT right!!   The History Channel ran a series of programs - one of 
which was about The Autobahn.  There's a video of MB SL getting on the edge 
of the road, overcorrected then flipped over and over from what was 
estimated as 135+ mph - the car rolled to a stop and the 2 occupants 
staggered out - it was positively amazing.  There's a lot of traffic cameras 
and a sophisticated system to keep traffic flowing efficiently.  When a jam 
occurs they can open the edge of the road as an additional lane.   It's a 
well made program - when it comes on again I hope you;ll get to see it.

When mediocrity is all that is needed, that's all that will be provided.

Then, you said: <>

More likely the bulb blew. ;-)  While spending 8 years in the WH as VP, with 
the 2nd best platform to make announcements from, he never mentioned GW as 
being caused by mankind  and on track to destroy all life - Heck, I don't 
think he mentioned it at all.  But, I guess that's another thing GWB 
caused - all in 7 years.  Pretty good trick.  Course, after causing Katrina 
a little GW (less than 1C in 100 years) would be a piece of cake.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Hendrik & Fay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew 
CorePrinciples


> Political suicide it is called, the people in favour of a speed limit
> probably already vote left and you scratch the surface of most Germans
> you'll find a rev head wanting to go fast in a fancy car.
> It is one thing to make people aware that going fast pumps out more
> emissions but another to make them slow down. A subsidy to make rail
> travel more affordable is going to get more votes than messing with a
> tradition of which most Germans are proud of. Also high speed roads lead
> to better cars, rather than the mediocre crap build by most auto makers.
> This is one of the frustrations of living in Oz, we have long distances
> between cities but a third world highway network. The rail network is no
> better and as such air travel is popular.
> Far as Gore goes, I wonder what he has personally done to lower his
> carbon footprint?
> A that's right, three weeks ago he switched off a light in his house
> because no one was in the room.
>
> Rich Thomas wrote:
>> Algore, the gift that keeps on giving...
>>
>> --R
>>
>> http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2849776,00.html
>>
>>  Earlier, in an unexpected move, the SPD voted in favor of
>> introducing  a top speed of 130 kph (80 mph) on Germany's famed speed
>> limit-free Autobahns or motorways in a bid to cut the country's CO2
>> emissions from cars.
>>
>> *"A symbolic issue"*
>>
>> Germany's powerful car industry has pressured lawmakers not to introduce
>> national speed limits, arguing that high speeds help them sell Mercedes,
>> Porsche and BMW around the world and help protect German jobs.
>>
>> However a number of studies have shown that speed limits could
>> effectively slash polluting emissions. Environmental groups have said a
>> speed limit would cut vehicle CO2 output by 5 percent overnight and 15
>> percent long-term once more fuel-efficient cars were used.
>>
>> At a conference on climate change in Berlin last week, Nobel laureate Al
>> Gore last week criticized Germany in a speech for not having motorway
>> speed limits. 
>>
>>
>> m
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] MB creates wife right husband wrong condition - brake lights

2007-10-28 Thread Bill
As with many things, it is not so much the stuff we don't know that gets us
into trouble as the stuff we are sure of that is wrong. Fortunately they
continue to love us  
BillR

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lights

When *will* you learn - you must never doubt the female.   They may not know

everything but when they make a comment, it's usually true.  Men, OTOH, 
myself included, will weigh the odds of her knowing more than I and make a 
comment based on a guess.  As long as she doesn't call my bluff I'm ok - 
usually I get caught and yet I continue to hold my position - thus digging 
my grave even deeper.

Afterwards I'm amazed at how confident I tried to appear in defending what 
was basically a guess.

Will I learn?  Well, I've been married almost 40 years to the same wonderful

woman and haven't learned yet.  I *have* learned to keep quiet more often --

Saying stuff gets me in trouble (sometimes I just can't help myself) - then 
I get deperate to dig my way out by saying stuff with little or no basis in 
reality - which explains why I'm usually unsuccessful in reversing the 
situation. ;-/

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 1:08 PM
Subject: [MBZ] MB creates wife right husband wrong condition - brake lights


> Must sell both Mercedes. Last night when investigating a tail light
> that was out, I discovered that the brake lights didn't work either
> (190D). So wife comes into garage and I tell her what I'm doing as I'm
> under the hood switching out a fuse.
>
> She says try turning on the key. I say with complete confidence (rare
> for me on any topic) that you don't need the key for the brake lights
> to operate. I even said "that's a guarantee". She says just try it -
> humor me. I put the key in and turn and the brake lights work. I go
> over to the 240, and same thing!
>
> I have not before seen a vehicle that requires the key to operate the
> brake lights! Thanks for scoring one for the enemy, MB. I would expect
> this from a Volvo.
>
> Brian
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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew CorePrinciples

2007-10-28 Thread Chuck Landenberger
I've been reluctant to join in on this thread...

But, if Clinton wins, can you for a moment imagine what Al Gore will  
do as Secretary of Energy or Transportation?

Woe be unto all of us!

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Oct 28, 2007, at 4:20 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

> Hendrik & Fay wrote:
>> Far as Gore goes, I wonder what he has personally done to lower his
>> carbon footprint?
>
> He "buys carbon offsets", so that makes his consumption all right.
> If you have more money than fortitude, you can just buy yourself
> into ecological utopia. 
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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew CorePrinciples

2007-10-28 Thread archer

- Original Message - 
From: "Hendrik & Fay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> This is one of the frustrations of living in Oz, we have long distances 
> between cities but a third world highway network. The rail network is no 
> better and as such air travel is popular.

You don't have many paved highways/roads in Australia?

Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb

2007-10-28 Thread Tom Hargrave
With the transmission, a lift helps a lot. You just undo the tranny mount,
walk over & shove the tail shaft over with a long pry bar (4' galvanized
steel fence post) & wedge something in there to keep it in place.

Wish I still had access to a rack myself.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

-Original Message-
From: Gary Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 5:07 PM
To: Tom Hargrave
Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb

Agreed. My response was somewhat tongue in cheek, as I know just how
dangerous it is to compare "anything" I do with that of a pro. I
couldn't afford me if I had to charge enough for my time to make a
living :^)

That said, I do get the car up high enough I can easily move around
under it and get the best angle possible. Still can't get the
transmission jacked over enough in the tunnel to be able to see what
I'm doing down inside the tranny under the B2 cover. Not sure how much
a lift would really help.

Gary Thompson (retaining my amateur status)
1995 E320

On 10/28/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is a world of difference between working on a car in a driveway
> and working on a car on a rack. Brakes take 2X longer in the driveway
> and some other jobs can be an easy 5X longer in the driveway.
>
> Thanks, Tom
> 256-656-1924


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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to RenewCorePrinciples

2007-10-28 Thread Barry Stark
Hm...Is that something like when the Church used to sell "indulgences"
where you used to be able to get away with most any horrendous crime or do
other bad things but then buy your way out of it?


>
> Hendrik & Fay wrote:
> > Far as Gore goes, I wonder what he has personally done to lower his
> > carbon footprint?
>
> He "buys carbon offsets", so that makes his consumption all right.
> If you have more money than fortitude, you can just buy yourself
> into ecological utopia. 



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Re: [MBZ] Losing coolant, somewhere

2007-10-28 Thread Mitch Haley


Harry Watkins wrote:
> 
> Why not pressure test the system with the engine warm?  Some of the macparts
> places may do it for free.

You can borrow a radiator/cap pressure tester at Autozone. Just pay for
the thing and they refund your money when you return it.

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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew CorePrinciples

2007-10-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik & Fay wrote:
> Far as Gore goes, I wonder what he has personally done to lower his
> carbon footprint?

He "buys carbon offsets", so that makes his consumption all right. 
If you have more money than fortitude, you can just buy yourself
into ecological utopia. 

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Re: [MBZ] Losing coolant, somewhere

2007-10-28 Thread Harry Watkins
Why not pressure test the system with the engine warm?  Some of the macparts
places may do it for free.

I slide a cardboard under and look for droppings.

Harry


On 10/27/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Replace your radiator cap.
>
> A bad one allows coolant to boil out when the engine is stopped hot.
>
> Also check for a leaking upper radiator hose, especially the hose
> nipple on the radiator, as they get brittle and crack.  Will only leak
> intermittantly.
>
> Also, if there is ANY coolant in the weep holes on the water pump,
> replace it.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge & Kaleb C. Striplin

2007-10-28 Thread Gary Thompson
There are actually quite a number of trouble codes that can be set
that will not trigger a chack engine light. There are individual pins
that allow you to dump codes on a number of different computers, and
only those codees that directly relate to emissions are passed on as
check engine. For the best info on M104 codes, take a look on
www.mercedesshop.com forums for anything authored by Steve Brotherton
(?).


Gary Thompson
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> A engine running slightly rich is unlikely to produce a trouble code, a
> two O2 sensor system may do but the early one O2 sensor ones are
> relatively stupid.

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[MBZ] Mr. green

2007-10-28 Thread Barry Stark
> Algore, the gift that keeps on giving...
>
> At a conference on climate change in Berlin last week, Nobel laureate Al
> Gore last week criticized Germany in a speech for not having motorway
> speed limits. 



It amazes me that so many folks think this man(Gore)really knows what he is
talking about. I also amazes me that more folks don't see him for the
hypocrite that he is. The list is so long it is almost laughable. Some of
the most glaring stuff...

His bizjet that he owns, often flying alone when he could use a commercial
flight, is a very old design known to be one of the worst polluters using
great quantities of fuel

With his multiple large homes he uses 20 times more energy than the average
family uses in one year.

He drives gas guzzler cars, in fact Al's one of the biggest private
shareholders in Occidental Petroleum.

his zinc mines have been the cause of numerous complaints by the local
environmental authorities for polluting the local rivers for years It got so
bad that the mines were shut down in 2003 but they will re-open soon.

This and more but he can sure tell everyone else how they must alter their
lifestyles to reduce their CO2 output and save the earth

His documentaries are almost on par with Moore's for lock of credibility

And this guy has the "use your own wording here" to tell the Germans how
they should run their own country

Don't ya just love the kinds of (incompetent)"leaders" our country has these
days!

Sorry for the rantbut now I feel better




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Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb

2007-10-28 Thread Tom Hargrave
There is a world of difference between working on a car in a driveway
and working on a car on a rack. Brakes take 2X longer in the driveway
and some other jobs can be an easy 5X longer in the driveway.

Thanks, Tom
256-656-1924

-Original Message-
From: "Gary Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: 10/28/07 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb

Complete B2 replacement with  new seals can be done "in about 10
minutes"... with the transmission out of the car. :^)

Takes me more than 20 minutes just to remove the old seal that holds
the bushing in place with the transmission in situ. Can't see what
you're doing and have to work by feel.


Gary Thompson (obviously not pro caliber @ B2 replacement)
1995 E320


EDWARD DENNIS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>   Thanks for the interest. The B2 was replaced by a friend I trade
> Detailing And Body-Paint work. He did it on a rack in 10 min. amazing!
> He showed me the wider newer piston (used)

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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew Core Principles

2007-10-28 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:43:37 +1030 Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Political suicide it is called, the people in favour of a speed limit 
> probably already vote left and you scratch the surface of most Germans 
> you'll find a rev head wanting to go fast in a fancy car.
> It is one thing to make people aware that going fast pumps out more 
> emissions but another to make them slow down. A subsidy to make rail 
> travel more affordable is going to get more votes than messing with a 
> tradition of which most Germans are proud of. Also high speed roads lead
> 
> to better cars, rather than the mediocre crap build by most auto makers.
> This is one of the frustrations of living in Oz, we have long distances 
> between cities but a third world highway network. The rail network is no
> 
> better and as such air travel is popular.
> Far as Gore goes, I wonder what he has personally done to lower his 
> carbon footprint?
> A that's right, three weeks ago he switched off a light in his house 
> because no one was in the room.

And it's amazing that as more scientifc information comes in indicating
that the human contribution to global warming is insignificant, the more
strident the people pushing forced draconian changes become.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] re;Knowledge/Henifay/Robb

2007-10-28 Thread Gary Thompson
Complete B2 replacement with  new seals can be done "in about 10
minutes"... with the transmission out of the car. :^)

Takes me more than 20 minutes just to remove the old seal that holds
the bushing in place with the transmission in situ. Can't see what
you're doing and have to work by feel.


Gary Thompson (obviously not pro caliber @ B2 replacement)
1995 E320


EDWARD DENNIS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>   Thanks for the interest. The B2 was replaced by a friend I trade
> Detailing And Body-Paint work. He did it on a rack in 10 min. amazing!
> He showed me the wider newer piston (used)

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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew Core Principles

2007-10-28 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Political suicide it is called, the people in favour of a speed limit 
probably already vote left and you scratch the surface of most Germans 
you'll find a rev head wanting to go fast in a fancy car.
It is one thing to make people aware that going fast pumps out more 
emissions but another to make them slow down. A subsidy to make rail 
travel more affordable is going to get more votes than messing with a 
tradition of which most Germans are proud of. Also high speed roads lead 
to better cars, rather than the mediocre crap build by most auto makers.
This is one of the frustrations of living in Oz, we have long distances 
between cities but a third world highway network. The rail network is no 
better and as such air travel is popular.
Far as Gore goes, I wonder what he has personally done to lower his 
carbon footprint?
A that's right, three weeks ago he switched off a light in his house 
because no one was in the room.

Rich Thomas wrote:
> Algore, the gift that keeps on giving...
>
> --R
>
> http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2849776,00.html
>
>  Earlier, in an unexpected move, the SPD voted in favor of 
> introducing  a top speed of 130 kph (80 mph) on Germany's famed speed 
> limit-free Autobahns or motorways in a bid to cut the country's CO2 
> emissions from cars.
>
> *"A symbolic issue"*
>
> Germany's powerful car industry has pressured lawmakers not to introduce 
> national speed limits, arguing that high speeds help them sell Mercedes, 
> Porsche and BMW around the world and help protect German jobs.
>
> However a number of studies have shown that speed limits could 
> effectively slash polluting emissions. Environmental groups have said a 
> speed limit would cut vehicle CO2 output by 5 percent overnight and 15 
> percent long-term once more fuel-efficient cars were used.
>
> At a conference on climate change in Berlin last week, Nobel laureate Al 
> Gore last week criticized Germany in a speech for not having motorway 
> speed limits. 
>
>
> m
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] MB creates wife right husband wrong condition - brake lights

2007-10-28 Thread LarryT
When *will* you learn - you must never doubt the female.   They may not know 
everything but when they make a comment, it's usually true.  Men, OTOH, 
myself included, will weigh the odds of her knowing more than I and make a 
comment based on a guess.  As long as she doesn't call my bluff I'm ok - 
usually I get caught and yet I continue to hold my position - thus digging 
my grave even deeper.

Afterwards I'm amazed at how confident I tried to appear in defending what 
was basically a guess.

Will I learn?  Well, I've been married almost 40 years to the same wonderful 
woman and haven't learned yet.  I *have* learned to keep quiet more often --

Saying stuff gets me in trouble (sometimes I just can't help myself) - then 
I get deperate to dig my way out by saying stuff with little or no basis in 
reality - which explains why I'm usually unsuccessful in reversing the 
situation. ;-/

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From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 1:08 PM
Subject: [MBZ] MB creates wife right husband wrong condition - brake lights


> Must sell both Mercedes. Last night when investigating a tail light
> that was out, I discovered that the brake lights didn't work either
> (190D). So wife comes into garage and I tell her what I'm doing as I'm
> under the hood switching out a fuse.
>
> She says try turning on the key. I say with complete confidence (rare
> for me on any topic) that you don't need the key for the brake lights
> to operate. I even said "that's a guarantee". She says just try it -
> humor me. I put the key in and turn and the brake lights work. I go
> over to the 240, and same thing!
>
> I have not before seen a vehicle that requires the key to operate the
> brake lights! Thanks for scoring one for the enemy, MB. I would expect
> this from a Volvo.
>
> Brian
>
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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew Core Principles

2007-10-28 Thread LarryT
It was written <>
Then he got on his private jet and returned to his well lit estate.

There's something about Freedom some people just can't bear to see.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:59 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew Core Principles


> Algore, the gift that keeps on giving...
>
> --R
>
> http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2849776,00.html
>
>  Earlier, in an unexpected move, the SPD voted in favor of
> introducing  a top speed of 130 kph (80 mph) on Germany's famed speed
> limit-free Autobahns or motorways in a bid to cut the country's CO2
> emissions from cars.
>
> *"A symbolic issue"*
>
> Germany's powerful car industry has pressured lawmakers not to introduce
> national speed limits, arguing that high speeds help them sell Mercedes,
> Porsche and BMW around the world and help protect German jobs.
>
> However a number of studies have shown that speed limits could
> effectively slash polluting emissions. Environmental groups have said a
> speed limit would cut vehicle CO2 output by 5 percent overnight and 15
> percent long-term once more fuel-efficient cars were used.
>
> At a conference on climate change in Berlin last week, Nobel laureate Al
> Gore last week criticized Germany in a speech for not having motorway
> speed limits. 
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] MB creates wife right husband wrong condition - brake lights

2007-10-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yep, they are all like that

Zoltan Finks wrote:
> Must sell both Mercedes. Last night when investigating a tail light
> that was out, I discovered that the brake lights didn't work either
> (190D). So wife comes into garage and I tell her what I'm doing as I'm
> under the hood switching out a fuse.
> 
> She says try turning on the key. I say with complete confidence (rare
> for me on any topic) that you don't need the key for the brake lights
> to operate. I even said "that's a guarantee". She says just try it -
> humor me. I put the key in and turn and the brake lights work. I go
> over to the 240, and same thing!
> 
> I have not before seen a vehicle that requires the key to operate the
> brake lights! Thanks for scoring one for the enemy, MB. I would expect
> this from a Volvo.
> 
> Brian
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Germany's Social Democrats Turn Left to Renew Core Principles

2007-10-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote:
> However a number of studies have shown that speed limits could
> effectively slash polluting emissions. Environmental groups have said a
> speed limit would cut vehicle CO2 output by 5 percent overnight and 15
> percent long-term once more fuel-efficient cars were used.

The high end cars will no longer be used as business jet substitutes
if they institute speed limits. Sales of the cars and gasoline will
drop, but what about jet fuel usage?

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ford F250 6.9L diesel

2007-10-28 Thread Kevin Kraly
Cavitation?

Yes, this is what caused the problems in my '85.  With 180Kmi, it could very 
well have cavitation issues already.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 


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