Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
I have always been puzzelled how a car can continiously by held in position by the compression of 1 cylinder by leaving it in gear It's not compression, really. Just plain old friction. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...
I cannot reveal all in the first shot. It leaves nothing to the mystery that is Luther. :) -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (170 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:22:52 -0600 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther has a degree in music --- My word! And we didn't even hear of it at the IowaQ! How shallow our conversation must have been! :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...
I don't have a B.A. Mine's a B.P.M. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (170 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ask Luther what our B.A. degrees are in. :-) Don On 11/25/07, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahhh Luther...and I thought I was one of the few male humans on the earth who would miss precious before-nights-nap-time for music played live. You now officially rock on another level. Bob R. Music/Arts'nuf said LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
Peter: I don't have any knowledge to add, but I want to celebrate someone else's willingness to ask such an open question without flinching at the inevitable scorn from the seasoned. Brian On 11/25/07, Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have always been puzzelled how a car can continiously by held in position by the compression of 1 cylinder by leaving it in gear ( manual tranny ) . One would think that eventually ( after a few seconds/minutes ) the rings will leak air and the car would then lurch fwd and then start a runway. This does not seem to happen though. Any thoughts on the physics involved? PEter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...
Nope. The BPO came to me :) -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (170 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Are you in Boston? If you are there for awhile longer you need to go to a Boston Camerata concert, in one of the old churches. Medieval and Renaissance music on original instruments and amazing voices, heavenly stuff. Sit close, and enjoy! I miss them terribly. --R Luther wrote: I'm almost too keyed up to get a nap before workWOW. Had a friend call me last night asking if I would join her for the Boston Pops this afternoon. I accepted in a heart beat, even knowing that I would get 4 hours or so of sleep for work tonight. It was worth it. They were joined by Cantus www.cantusonline.org and it was stellar. I have some pictures on my phone that I'll try to upload later tonight. WOW! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement
E M wrote: Ok, seen it a few times but never asked. What is blinker fluid? I'm curious. :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snipe_hunt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
I saw a F250 Powerstroke go for a walk once on a lightly sloped parking lot. We came out of the store, and it was about six feet farther back than we left it. I wasn't driving, but I'm pretty sure it could not have been in creeper or reverse. The owner's driveway is steeper than that parking lot and as far as I know it's never done that at home. After my Horizon hit about 180,000 miles it would do that in reverse at the boat ramp, about one compression stroke every 20 seconds. Before the cylinders started leaking down the engine held the car and the boat on that ramp just fine. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new addition
it's the 4-speed manual. New clutch, new master and slave cylinders, new brake system. Girlfriend thinks I'm selling it immediately for profit, don't need to tell parents b/c I insure my own cars. Adulthood. On Nov 25, 2007 11:46 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: Sunil, you didn't say if it is an auto or the coveted 4 speed. He also didn't say what the girlfriend and parents think of it. I'm sure the parents are ecstatic. ;-) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
So you're gonna test this by removing the spark plugs and parking on the side of a hill? Let us know how you got on.once you're out of hospital..and got the insurance monkeys off your back.and the missus lets you back in the house if you promise to behave.well she might ban you from this list for talking you into doing dumb things. Jim Cathey wrote: I have always been puzzelled how a car can continiously by held in position by the compression of 1 cylinder by leaving it in gear It's not compression, really. Just plain old friction. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is the current thinking on internal engine cleaners?
Synthetic - change it at regular intervals and drive it at high speeds (60-70 or more) for long distances. Our 91 had carbon build up - I also put some stuff called Ferox 230 from www.ferox230sales.com - bought 4 bottles of concentrate specfically designed to break loose carbon. Each bottle treated 6 tanks od diesel IIRC. Worked like a charm. No more carbon. ;-) As far as sludge, the synthetic oil (I like Mobil 1) will clean it out over the course of 2 or 3 oil changes. But high speed drives will help an engine tremendously. Also, if the engine suffers from sludge buildup the AT probably does also - again, Mobil 1 ATF is the answer - change it every 30K miles along with the filter - Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] What is the current thinking on internal engine cleaners? I got an Izuzu with a lot of sludge build up in the motor. What is the best way to go? A bit of ATF 50k's before an oil change, seafoam or running a synthetic oil? Hendrik ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.6/1150 - Release Date: 11/24/2007 5:58 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D
Hi Loren, Agree with everything you said. My 78 240D starts instantly in all weather -- but the MB AT is a poor excuse for a transmission. A 5 speed would be wonderful - even a 4 speed considering the torque these engines have - would be much better than the AT. You're right about the ride - it rides like the luxury car it is - I've considered changing the engine/tranny out for a 300D turbo with manual tranny if I could find one since the body and interior are in good condition. Oh well - like everyone else - always wanting something else - Later - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:37 PM Subject: [MBZ] 240D My trusty 240D has set idly since about March or so when I was planning to try again to get the blasted 81 only auto trans to shift right. I put the battery charger on for a while, turned the key, it glowed and took off on the first cyl to hit the power stroke. It makes me remember why I love the cast iron 4 cyl engines so much. Look, it has a real radiator! (even if the tanks are plastic) No fancy electronics. With its new rear suspension and new Bilsteins all around, it rides and drives nice. If it just had a real 5 speed in place of the stupid auto, and if it only had a turbo It would really be the little engine that could. I never could understand why they put a turbo on the 617 but not the 616, which really could benefit form the boost. (literally and figuratively) Loren Faeth 80 240D 4 spd, waiting for an engine 81 240D, stinkin auto, great engine 66 200D 2.4, now there is a great car 66 200D Can you say OM621? et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.6/1150 - Release Date: 11/24/2007 5:58 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement
Perhaps the connections where the lines that go to the AT cooler are loose? They connect at the engine/tranny. Also, the dipstick tube attaches to the pan and the washer sometimes leaks. Don't know why it would be clear tho - I assume it's greasy and not watery? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:48 PM Subject: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement After being gone for 4 days, I returned home tonight and saw a 5' long puddle under the 87 300D. It appears to be ATF, although there is no red color apparent in the dab I picked up with my finger. Last summer it was puking ATF at the rate of a qt to 50 miles from the front of the trans. Then it just quit leaking. This puddle seems to originate from the front of the trans/ rear of the engine. Does anyone have any ideas? In the summer it seemed to leak when the car was running, not sitting. Now it leaks while sitting. Probably will leak when running also. My only inexpensive hope is that maybe the oil pan gasket is leaking on the trans. Not sure why the oil slick does not appear red. I suppose unless anyone else has great suggestions, I should change the trans fluid and filter and gasket, and see if it helps any. Loren Faeth 87 300D OM603 Of course it has a 14 head. That is what it came with. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.6/1150 - Release Date: 11/24/2007 5:58 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy
I think you miss my point. If I leave my car overnight, drain in the morning, put in new oil and go on my way how is that one more cold start? If you can't prove beyond a resonable doubt (like do side by side tests, then breakdown each engine and measure and find one method superior) its all theory. As I said before in all likelyhood it doesn't matter spit either way. Lets assume the hot method results in 100 extra miles due to reduced wear per-oil change. Thats going to work out to what 20,000 over the life of the car? Most people don't keep their cars that long. In which case my changing the oil every 10,000 miles (analysis says its safe) will result in even LESS wear... -Curt Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:00:28 -0800 (PST) From: EDWARD DENNIS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi, Change oil in shorter intervals and hot when the engine is lubricated and 1 less cold start. Don't worry about mixing good oil with new oil. No theories, 40+ years experience. Ed in Chicago 85 190d 95k; 82 300sd 121k; 90 suburban 6,2na 253k; 01 cherokee 95k; 90 f250 460 97k; 76 Ford wag 400 c6 144k; 67 f250 56k; 83 Mustang GT conv.302 5spd. 44k; BMW k100 42k Kaw kz250 3k; 67 CC Calvalier 33' 650 hrs 5.7 Lx2 Onan 3,5kw; 85 wellcraft 190 merc 170io. plus a few projects. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new addition
Speaking of which, you ever gonna send me pics? It might be easier to just have you and the missus come out for dinner on a Saturday... -Curt Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:29:52 -0500 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] new addition To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Way to go Sunil. You were never out of the club, just hated to see you Benzless. All joking aside, the 240D-esp. the early ones w/o ACC w/ manual windows, etc are very solid cars-I have two of them right now. Keep us posted (so to speak.) Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI - Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement
LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I assume it's greasy and not watery? Coolant is yellow-clear and slippery. not sure if that would be mistaken for greasy, also it has a very distinctive sweet smell. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
I've had the same thing happen in an old air-cooled Beetle. Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I saw a F250 Powerstroke go for a walk once on a lightly sloped parking lot. We came out of the store, and it was about six feet farther back than we left it. I wasn't driving, but I'm pretty sure it could not have been in creeper or reverse. The owner's driveway is steeper than that parking lot and as far as I know it's never done that at home. After my Horizon hit about 180,000 miles it would do that in reverse at the boat ramp, about one compression stroke every 20 seconds. Before the cylinders started leaking down the engine held the car and the boat on that ramp just fine. Mitch. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] new addition
Sunil, what's the latest with the girlfriend? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...
Well, we didnt see much of Zippy at the IowaQ, he was off doing something or other most of the time. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:22:52 -0600 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther has a degree in music --- My word! And we didn't even hear of it at the IowaQ! How shallow our conversation must have been! :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
If you were parked on a steep enough hill it will start to roll back a little. When I first started driving before I got my first car I drove my dads old 76 Ford F100 with a 3 on the tree. On a steep hill it would roll back slightly. We are not talking sudden rolling, it would just start to creep back. Peter Merle wrote: I have always been puzzelled how a car can continiously by held in position by the compression of 1 cylinder by leaving it in gear ( manual tranny ) . One would think that eventually ( after a few seconds/minutes ) the rings will leak air and the car would then lurch fwd and then start a runway. This does not seem to happen though. Any thoughts on the physics involved? PEter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Roof rack
I got the correct Yakima system for my car. I think Yakima has more older-MB-correct stuff than Thule, but I could be making that up. Yakima has worked well for me. Bob R '77 200D 185K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:33 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Roof rack Any recommendations out there on roof top racks for a 83 300D? Thanks. Mike N. **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: electronics question
There seems to be some good knowledge of electronics on this list, so thought I'd ask for some help I was given a treadmill, it works except the speed control runs away over about 4 mph. In other words, you can set a speed from 0 - 4 mph, much above that it just goes full speed (about 12 mph). The speed adjustment is a potentiometer, which is connected to some other circuitry down near the drive motor. All three terminals of the pot are wired. The treadmill has been stored for a couple of years in a non-climate controlled storage trailer. My thought is that since it's the only moving part in the circuit, the potentiometer is likely the culpirt. Easy enough to change it out to be sure -- any reason to think it's something else? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
Isn't there also pressure against a pin/stop of some sort? I was always taught to use park with e-brake. And, when on a hill/slope, e-brake and neutral with no park. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear If you were parked on a steep enough hill it will start to roll back a little. When I first started driving before I got my first car I drove my dads old 76 Ford F100 with a 3 on the tree. On a steep hill it would roll back slightly. We are not talking sudden rolling, it would just start to creep back. Peter Merle wrote: I have always been puzzelled how a car can continiously by held in position by the compression of 1 cylinder by leaving it in gear ( manual tranny ) . One would think that eventually ( after a few seconds/minutes ) the rings will leak air and the car would then lurch fwd and then start a runway. This does not seem to happen though. Any thoughts on the physics involved? PEter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D
yes, the 616 is not a turbo engine Why not a factory Turbo 616? I'm still trying to find out if a turbo 616 was available in other parts of the world for other applications. Unimog, industrial, marine, stationary etc. If so, I want one! I have never been thrilled about a bolt-on turbo for an engine NOT designed for a turbo. IH had a turbo kit for the 4 cyl scout also. I'd be more confident about that, even though the IH 4 cyl is not designed for turbo, it was designed to be a v-8. And it is a factory turbo kit. At 12:31 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: There was an after market turbo kit available for the 240D - I believe it sold for about $2600.00. Mercedes recommended against the kit because the engine was not designed (over engineered) for a turbo like the 3 liter turbo engines. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 240D My trusty 240D has set idly since about March or so when I was planning to try again to get the blasted 81 only auto trans to shift right. I put the battery charger on for a while, turned the key, it glowed and took off on the first cyl to hit the power stroke. It makes me remember why I love the cast iron 4 cyl engines so much. Look, it has a real radiator! (even if the tanks are plastic) No fancy electronics. With its new rear suspension and new Bilsteins all around, it rides and drives nice. If it just had a real 5 speed in place of the stupid auto, and if it only had a turbo It would really be the little engine that could. I never could understand why they put a turbo on the 617 but not the 616, which really could benefit form the boost. (literally and figuratively) Loren Faeth 80 240D 4 spd, waiting for an engine 81 240D, stinkin auto, great engine 66 200D 2.4, now there is a great car 66 200D Can you say OM621? et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...
Luther...what is B.P.M.? Forgive my dorkicity. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 3:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops... I don't have a B.A. Mine's a B.P.M. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (170 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ask Luther what our B.A. degrees are in. :-) Don On 11/25/07, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahhh Luther...and I thought I was one of the few male humans on the earth who would miss precious before-nights-nap-time for music played live. You now officially rock on another level. Bob R. Music/Arts'nuf said LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isn't there also pressure against a pin/stop of some sort? I was always taught to use park with e-brake. And, when on a hill/slope, e-brake and neutral with no park. In my 300D when I park, I set the parking brake while holding the car with the foot brake, before putting the transmission in park. I feel that this keeps stress off the transmission, especially on any kind of slope. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D
Loren Faeth wrote: yes, the 616 is not a turbo engine Why not a factory Turbo 616? I'm still trying to find out if a turbo 616 was available in other parts of the world for other applications. Ghurka? I think those were made in India, but very similar or perhaps identical to a 616. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Roof rack
Robert Rentfro wrote: I got the correct Yakima system for my car. I think Yakima has more older-MB-correct stuff than Thule, but I could be making that up. Yakima has worked well for me. Will the standard Thule/Yakima gutter clamps work on a W123? Ten years ago gutter clamp feet were a dime a dozen, but now they might have disappeared from the used market. I loved my Thule gutter feet on the Horizon. One of the reasons I bought that car in 1989 was it was about the last car on the market with rain gutters to clamp a bike rack to. (and then I never roof racked a bike on that car, not even once, in 230,000 miles. I did transport lumber, a bed, and various other things with it) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
That's exactly what the fella from whom I contracted the MB bug from in 1974 taught me to do. Not really sure if it actually makes a transmission last longer...but it can't hurt, I suppose. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isn't there also pressure against a pin/stop of some sort? I was always taught to use park with e-brake. And, when on a hill/slope, e-brake and neutral with no park. In my 300D when I park, I set the parking brake while holding the car with the foot brake, before putting the transmission in park. I feel that this keeps stress off the transmission, especially on any kind of slope. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D
with the 300D turbo, you sacrifice mileage, the best thing about the 240D. yeah, I know, the 123 300D turbo is the best available compromise. At 07:47 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: Hi Loren, Agree with everything you said. My 78 240D starts instantly in all weather -- but the MB AT is a poor excuse for a transmission. A 5 speed would be wonderful - even a 4 speed considering the torque these engines have - would be much better than the AT. You're right about the ride - it rides like the luxury car it is - I've considered changing the engine/tranny out for a 300D turbo with manual tranny if I could find one since the body and interior are in good condition. Oh well - like everyone else - always wanting something else - Later - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:37 PM Subject: [MBZ] 240D My trusty 240D has set idly since about March or so when I was planning to try again to get the blasted 81 only auto trans to shift right. I put the battery charger on for a while, turned the key, it glowed and took off on the first cyl to hit the power stroke. It makes me remember why I love the cast iron 4 cyl engines so much. Look, it has a real radiator! (even if the tanks are plastic) No fancy electronics. With its new rear suspension and new Bilsteins all around, it rides and drives nice. If it just had a real 5 speed in place of the stupid auto, and if it only had a turbo It would really be the little engine that could. I never could understand why they put a turbo on the 617 but not the 616, which really could benefit form the boost. (literally and figuratively) Loren Faeth 80 240D 4 spd, waiting for an engine 81 240D, stinkin auto, great engine 66 200D 2.4, now there is a great car 66 200D Can you say OM621? et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.6/1150 - Release Date: 11/24/2007 5:58 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D
yes, there were factory turbo 240D's, I think in Japan Loren Faeth wrote: yes, the 616 is not a turbo engine Why not a factory Turbo 616? I'm still trying to find out if a turbo 616 was available in other parts of the world for other applications. Unimog, industrial, marine, stationary etc. If so, I want one! I have never been thrilled about a bolt-on turbo for an engine NOT designed for a turbo. IH had a turbo kit for the 4 cyl scout also. I'd be more confident about that, even though the IH 4 cyl is not designed for turbo, it was designed to be a v-8. And it is a factory turbo kit. \ -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Roof rack
I'm not sure what standard is. When I got mine, I found out from the Yakima web site what the correct gutter clamps were for the W123 and hunted those down on eBay. About 4 years ago I was able to get the clamps, poles, and one of those big baskets for about $210 (but not all from the same person). Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Roof rack Robert Rentfro wrote: I got the correct Yakima system for my car. I think Yakima has more older-MB-correct stuff than Thule, but I could be making that up. Yakima has worked well for me. Will the standard Thule/Yakima gutter clamps work on a W123? Ten years ago gutter clamp feet were a dime a dozen, but now they might have disappeared from the used market. I loved my Thule gutter feet on the Horizon. One of the reasons I bought that car in 1989 was it was about the last car on the market with rain gutters to clamp a bike rack to. (and then I never roof racked a bike on that car, not even once, in 230,000 miles. I did transport lumber, a bed, and various other things with it) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: electronics question
Find some contact cleaner first (Deoxit or the like) and clean the pot before removing it. Luther On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:01:05 -0600, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There seems to be some good knowledge of electronics on this list, so thought I'd ask for some help I was given a treadmill, it works except the speed control runs away over about 4 mph. In other words, you can set a speed from 0 - 4 mph, much above that it just goes full speed (about 12 mph). The speed adjustment is a potentiometer, which is connected to some other circuitry down near the drive motor. All three terminals of the pot are wired. The treadmill has been stored for a couple of years in a non-climate controlled storage trailer. My thought is that since it's the only moving part in the circuit, the potentiometer is likely the culpirt. Easy enough to change it out to be sure -- any reason to think it's something else? Allan -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...
Bachelor of Parish Music On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:04:42 -0600, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther...what is B.P.M.? Forgive my dorkicity. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 3:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops... I don't have a B.A. Mine's a B.P.M. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D
Ghurka? Tell us more, Oh world traveller At 09:08 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: yes, the 616 is not a turbo engine Why not a factory Turbo 616? I'm still trying to find out if a turbo 616 was available in other parts of the world for other applications. Ghurka? I think those were made in India, but very similar or perhaps identical to a 616. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...
Most of us here have an R.P.M. At 04:18 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: I don't have a B.A. Mine's a B.P.M. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (170 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ask Luther what our B.A. degrees are in. :-) Don On 11/25/07, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahhh Luther...and I thought I was one of the few male humans on the earth who would miss precious before-nights-nap-time for music played live. You now officially rock on another level. Bob R. Music/Arts'nuf said LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
I saw something like that in Akron about 35 years ago on a sloped parking lot. About 15 cars slid out of their spaces when the owners parked warm tires on an iced lot. Interesting to drive through. I don't think compression leak-down had anything to do with that one. BillR Jacksonville FL I saw a F250 Powerstroke go for a walk once on a lightly sloped parking lot. We came out of the store, and it was about six feet farther back than we left it. I wasn't driving, but I'm pretty sure it could not have been in creeper or reverse. The owner's driveway is steeper than that parking lot and as far as I know it's never done that at home. After my Horizon hit about 180,000 miles it would do that in reverse at the boat ramp, about one compression stroke every 20 seconds. Before the cylinders started leaking down the engine held the car and the boat on that ramp just fine. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...
A.A. B.S. M.S. No Ph.D :( Dave H... -- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops... Most of us here have an R.P.M. At 04:18 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: I don't have a B.A. Mine's a B.P.M. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (170 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ask Luther what our B.A. degrees are in. :-) Don On 11/25/07, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahhh Luther...and I thought I was one of the few male humans on the earth who would miss precious before-nights-nap-time for music played live. You now officially rock on another level. Bob R. Music/Arts'nuf said LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ghurka
http://motorblog.blogtvbrasil.com.br/pesados?p=2 Smart monster truck, Ghurka armored vehicle, park your Mercedes in your motorhome. Too bad it's not in english. -Dave Walton On Nov 26, 2007 10:12 AM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ghurka? Tell us more, Oh world traveller At 09:08 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: yes, the 616 is not a turbo engine Why not a factory Turbo 616? I'm still trying to find out if a turbo 616 was available in other parts of the world for other applications. Ghurka? I think those were made in India, but very similar or perhaps identical to a 616. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...
AhhhI see the OK Don - Luther degree connection now. Fanny Crosby and Charles Wesley are my peeps, too. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops... Bachelor of Parish Music On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:04:42 -0600, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther...what is B.P.M.? Forgive my dorkicity. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 3:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops... I don't have a B.A. Mine's a B.P.M. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D
Ghurka? Isn't that what the terrorist puppets in Team America were chanting? Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Tell us more, Oh world traveller At 09:08 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: yes, the 616 is not a turbo engine Why not a factory Turbo 616? I'm still trying to find out if a turbo 616 was available in other parts of the world for other applications. Ghurka? I think those were made in India, but very similar or perhaps identical to a 616. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new addition
Girlfriend is wanting to be a fiancee/wife, so i have to move on that. but lately we're having issues with my parents, so we'll see how it all shakes out. she's tolerant of my car habit, but is getting tired of it as I have money for cars, but not for a ring. On 11/26/07, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil, what's the latest with the girlfriend? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D
Buy me one, Dad? Plse? At 09:16 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: yes, there were factory turbo 240D's, I think in Japan Loren Faeth wrote: yes, the 616 is not a turbo engine Why not a factory Turbo 616? I'm still trying to find out if a turbo 616 was available in other parts of the world for other applications. Unimog, industrial, marine, stationary etc. If so, I want one! I have never been thrilled about a bolt-on turbo for an engine NOT designed for a turbo. IH had a turbo kit for the 4 cyl scout also. I'd be more confident about that, even though the IH 4 cyl is not designed for turbo, it was designed to be a v-8. And it is a factory turbo kit. \ -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ghurka
I want one of each. --R dave walton wrote: http://motorblog.blogtvbrasil.com.br/pesados?p=2 Smart monster truck, Ghurka armored vehicle, park your Mercedes in your motorhome. Too bad it's not in english. -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] just saw the Boston Pops...
Here are the pictures I took with my phone. Some are out of focusfirst time with this new phone inside like this. Not bad for a free Razr V3xx Gold :) http://www.gulseth.net/BPO/index.html -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new addition
Woohoo! How much? At 07:14 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: it's the 4-speed manual. New clutch, new master and slave cylinders, new brake system. Girlfriend thinks I'm selling it immediately for profit, don't need to tell parents b/c I insure my own cars. Adulthood. On Nov 25, 2007 11:46 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: Sunil, you didn't say if it is an auto or the coveted 4 speed. He also didn't say what the girlfriend and parents think of it. I'm sure the parents are ecstatic. ;-) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] German cat names [was: Re: Oil puzzlement]
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:48:38 -0600 Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the correct pronunciation of these? Strassendeemuh? Strassendirne: strassen-deer-nuh GePARD? No, equal stress on both syllables. Panzervells? Yes. Rotlukes? Yes, but not as in the English word rot, but as in the English word boat. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new addition
As you know by now, life is a big balancing act. Good luck young man. You'll do the right things because you evidently care about those things you must balance (g-friend/wife, car, parents, school etc). BTW...if she goes ballistic about the car, I have an 18 year old son who'll give you $425 for it. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sunil Hari Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] new addition Girlfriend is wanting to be a fiancee/wife, so i have to move on that. but lately we're having issues with my parents, so we'll see how it all shakes out. she's tolerant of my car habit, but is getting tired of it as I have money for cars, but not for a ring. On 11/26/07, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil, what's the latest with the girlfriend? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
test this by removing the spark plugs and parking on the side of a hill? Spork plags? What're those? :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new addition
Uh oh, it's starting. A preview of Things To Come. --R Sunil Hari wrote: Girlfriend is wanting to be a fiancee/wife, so i have to move on that. but lately we're having issues with my parents, so we'll see how it all shakes out. she's tolerant of my car habit, but is getting tired of it as I have money for cars, but not for a ring. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: electronics question
My thought is that since it's the only moving part in the circuit, the potentiometer is likely the culpirt. Easy enough to change it out to be sure -- any reason to think it's something else? It's possible, but there are other potential failures too. Easy enough to try, though. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new addition
BTW...if she goes ballistic about the car, I have an 18 year old son who'll give you $425 for it. ...and possibly more for the GF! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new addition
...and possibly more for the GF! Possiblyhe's figuring out they cost money. He told me the other day, after getting the heave ho from some little Goth wench, that cars are a better investment. Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ghurka
For those so inclined that they wish a translation, go tohttp:// babelfish.altavista.com/ And enter the website (for example, as indicated below), select the appropriate languages and voila! Sometime it is not a good translation, but better than the native language Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Nov 26, 2007, at 8:35 AM, dave walton wrote: http://motorblog.blogtvbrasil.com.br/pesados?p=2 Smart monster truck, Ghurka armored vehicle, park your Mercedes in your motorhome. Too bad it's not in english. -Dave Walton On Nov 26, 2007 10:12 AM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ghurka? Tell us more, Oh world traveller At 09:08 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: yes, the 616 is not a turbo engine Why not a factory Turbo 616? I'm still trying to find out if a turbo 616 was available in other parts of the world for other applications. Ghurka? I think those were made in India, but very similar or perhaps identical to a 616. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Projekt-Wagen 2 w/ ALDA interchangeability question
Found a 1980 300SD W116 with usual problems - window seals, a/c, etc. The big one was extremely slow acceleration (ALDA is ruined and I also suspect the turbo switchover valve and hose going to it (looks plugged). $1,000 obo, he took my first offer of $750. He was able to drive it to my house and put $20 in fuel in it to boot. Almost no rust, very nice - needs new dash. 155K miles. He had injectors rebuilt, new filters, installed water filter, new lift and primer pump, new glow plugs. Started on 4th crank with no block heater at 25 degrees. Started right up last night at 45, so no problems there. This one should be fun. Going to the PNP after work to get all the pieces we need off the W115 there before it goes to the crusher. QUESTION: Is an ALDA off any turbo OM617 interchangeable with any other turbo OM617? Thanks! Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 368K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 58K miles, The Behemoth -1975 240D manual, W115, Projekt-Wagen 1 -1980 300SD, W116, Projekt-Wagen 2 - Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D
My only complaint about the 240D is the lack of acceleration - especially in summer with AC on. It's *really* slow ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D with the 300D turbo, you sacrifice mileage, the best thing about the 240D. yeah, I know, the 123 300D turbo is the best available compromise. At 07:47 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: Hi Loren, Agree with everything you said. My 78 240D starts instantly in all weather -- but the MB AT is a poor excuse for a transmission. A 5 speed would be wonderful - even a 4 speed considering the torque these engines have - would be much better than the AT. You're right about the ride - it rides like the luxury car it is - I've considered changing the engine/tranny out for a 300D turbo with manual tranny if I could find one since the body and interior are in good condition. Oh well - like everyone else - always wanting something else - Later - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:37 PM Subject: [MBZ] 240D My trusty 240D has set idly since about March or so when I was planning to try again to get the blasted 81 only auto trans to shift right. I put the battery charger on for a while, turned the key, it glowed and took off on the first cyl to hit the power stroke. It makes me remember why I love the cast iron 4 cyl engines so much. Look, it has a real radiator! (even if the tanks are plastic) No fancy electronics. With its new rear suspension and new Bilsteins all around, it rides and drives nice. If it just had a real 5 speed in place of the stupid auto, and if it only had a turbo It would really be the little engine that could. I never could understand why they put a turbo on the 617 but not the 616, which really could benefit form the boost. (literally and figuratively) Loren Faeth 80 240D 4 spd, waiting for an engine 81 240D, stinkin auto, great engine 66 200D 2.4, now there is a great car 66 200D Can you say OM621? et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.6/1150 - Release Date: 11/24/2007 5:58 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.7/1152 - Release Date: 11/26/2007 10:50 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gurkha
I had the spelling wrong. It's Gurkha. There's a guy on Mercedesshop with that nickname, he's got a green one with factory turbo 616. http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=202468page=6 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty's prices
lol
Rusty Cullens
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From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty's prices
And the RockAuto B.B.Q. is when?
--
Regards,
Peter T. Arnold
2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 17Kmi, No problems!
1987 300SDL 280KMI Going soon
1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi
1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that
is!
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:38:16 -0700, you wrote:
I am yet again thankful that I am able to buy parts from Rusty.
His prices for the ignition lock I recently purchased are $ 208.00 retail
and $ 156.93 our price.
I recently got an email from Rock Auto, the place where I bought the Bosch
rubber caps to fix vacuum door lock actuators, reminding me of a discount
coupon that would soon expire. I went to their site and looked at prices
for parts for our '82 240D/3.0 (admittedly, their focus is domestic and
not foreign, but ...) and found that their selling price for the same part
is $336.79!
To be fair, they do list the MANN Part # PF10551X oil filter for $7.51
while Rusty lists a Mann filter for $ 8.81. They also list MANN Part
#WK716 Fuel Filter: Spin on for $6.37 while Rusty lists Fuel Filter Mahle
for $7.77 and Fuel Filter Bosch for $8.19. Comparing apples to apples,
however, Rock Auto lists BOSCH Part #74012 {Fuel Filter #1457434153}
Secondary fuel filter for $9.54.
For air filters, Rusty is cheaper at $11.44 versus Rock Auto's $11.61.
For wheel lug bolts, Rusty lists, Lug Bolt Febi (steel wheel) $ 1.51, and,
Lug Bolt Febi (alloy wheel) $ 3.47. Rock Auto lists FEBI Part #2014010270
{Wheel Bolt For steel wheel} $1.00 and FEBI Part # 1264010670F {Wheel Bolt
For alloy wheel #1264010670} $2.54.
Interesting.
Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
That happens all the time here in the mountains. Four brakes engaged on iced parking lot might hold the vehicle but just the drive wheels in park, you shut the car door and the car slides away like a hockey puck. The owner's manual on the 300D gives emergency instructions on how to jump start the car if necessary by coasting it downgrade. This can be done with the automatic transmission in the Benz not just manual trans. 11/26/07 10:30 AM, Bill Ringgold at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw something like that in Akron about 35 years ago on a sloped parking lot. About 15 cars slid out of their spaces when the owners parked warm tires on an iced lot. Interesting to drive through. I don't think compression leak-down had anything to do with that one. BillR Jacksonville FL I saw a F250 Powerstroke go for a walk once on a lightly sloped parking lot. We came out of the store, and it was about six feet farther back than we left it. I wasn't driving, but I'm pretty sure it could not have been in creeper or reverse. The owner's driveway is steeper than that parking lot and as far as I know it's never done that at home. After my Horizon hit about 180,000 miles it would do that in reverse at the boat ramp, about one compression stroke every 20 seconds. Before the cylinders started leaking down the engine held the car and the boat on that ramp just fine. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] college football
Yes, indeed. Now my beloved Dawgs are #4 in the BCS. When Pitt beats WV OU beats Mizzou, we will be #2 and BCS Championship bound. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] college football If LSU loses to ARK then it's an even bigger muddle. On Nov 22, 2007 6:48 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, you disappoint me. I thought your well trained cranium was sharper and more quick witted. Luther On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:33:03 -0600, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Default banned response. On Nov 21, 2007 1:45 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, the peverbial football powerhouse, The Big East Conference. Who does anyone in your league play?? Your WVU team has 1 loss to S.Florida, who is primed and ready to fall out of the top 25. How does that deserve a #3 ranking? Impressive. When's the last time you played a top 10 team? Lets look and see, #5 Louisville, November 2, 2006, a loss, 44-34. Then back to October 1, 2005 for a loss to #3 Virginia Tech 34-17. Oh yeah, you did beat #10 Georgia on January 2, 2006 38-35 for the ONLY victory against a top 10 team since at least 2001, and probably earlier. Yet every time you squeak into the top 10, your team finds a way to loose and drop closer to their true ranking. Your conference is impressively over inflated. The Big 12? This year, Kansas actually looks ok, and may have a chance to make it to the National Championship, even though they just barely squeaked by unranked Colorado, 19-14, and unranked Texas AM, 19-11. Sheesh, their 11-0 run has NO top 25 teams. Add that to the fact that their school is known for choking on the way to a probable national title game in other sports, nah...they don't have a prayer of making it to the top game. Kansas will beat Missouri on Saturday, by a touchdown or more in the Arrowhead Shootout. It might even be a rout of more than 21 points when both teams will score more than 40 Missouri can't stop the high-powered, strike-quick Kansas offense. Either way, a miracle, or not, neither Missouri or Kansas will beat Oklahoma (a real football school) in the Big 12 title game. Not if OU brings their A gamewhich they have not done every game all year Luther On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:14:10 -0600, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I grew up a half hour south of WVU. I am a 50+ year Mountaineer fan. Wanna compare notes and BCS stuff? :-) D. I am a Missouri Tiger fan, so things are going very well for us. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ghurka
Aren't there motorhomes with let-down ramps that will transport a small vehicle? Gerry http://motorblog.blogtvbrasil.com.br/pesados?p=2 Smart monster truck, Ghurka armored vehicle, park your Mercedes in your motorhome. Too bad it's not in english. -Dave Walton On Nov 26, 2007 10:12 AM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ghurka? Tell us more, Oh world traveller At 09:08 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: yes, the 616 is not a turbo engine Why not a factory Turbo 616? I'm still trying to find out if a turbo 616 was available in other parts of the world for other applications. Ghurka? I think those were made in India, but very similar or perhaps identical to a 616. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1142 - Release Date: 11/20/2007 5:44 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new addition
OY! Reminds me of the recent widow who was telling a friend, So on his deathbed Murray told me I should sell his Benz to pay for his funeral buy a stone. (Extends hand)... You like it??? on 11/26/07 11:10 AM, Rich Thomas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh oh, it's starting. A preview of Things To Come. --R Sunil Hari wrote: Girlfriend is wanting to be a fiancee/wife, so i have to move on that. but lately we're having issues with my parents, so we'll see how it all shakes out. she's tolerant of my car habit, but is getting tired of it as I have money for cars, but not for a ring. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] college football
You don't want to be #2#2 has been cursed this year. They always lose. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:53 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] college football Yes, indeed. Now my beloved Dawgs are #4 in the BCS. When Pitt beats WV OU beats Mizzou, we will be #2 and BCS Championship bound. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] college football If LSU loses to ARK then it's an even bigger muddle. On Nov 22, 2007 6:48 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, you disappoint me. I thought your well trained cranium was sharper and more quick witted. Luther On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:33:03 -0600, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Default banned response. On Nov 21, 2007 1:45 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, the peverbial football powerhouse, The Big East Conference. Who does anyone in your league play?? Your WVU team has 1 loss to S.Florida, who is primed and ready to fall out of the top 25. How does that deserve a #3 ranking? Impressive. When's the last time you played a top 10 team? Lets look and see, #5 Louisville, November 2, 2006, a loss, 44-34. Then back to October 1, 2005 for a loss to #3 Virginia Tech 34-17. Oh yeah, you did beat #10 Georgia on January 2, 2006 38-35 for the ONLY victory against a top 10 team since at least 2001, and probably earlier. Yet every time you squeak into the top 10, your team finds a way to loose and drop closer to their true ranking. Your conference is impressively over inflated. The Big 12? This year, Kansas actually looks ok, and may have a chance to make it to the National Championship, even though they just barely squeaked by unranked Colorado, 19-14, and unranked Texas AM, 19-11. Sheesh, their 11-0 run has NO top 25 teams. Add that to the fact that their school is known for choking on the way to a probable national title game in other sports, nah...they don't have a prayer of making it to the top game. Kansas will beat Missouri on Saturday, by a touchdown or more in the Arrowhead Shootout. It might even be a rout of more than 21 points when both teams will score more than 40 Missouri can't stop the high-powered, strike-quick Kansas offense. Either way, a miracle, or not, neither Missouri or Kansas will beat Oklahoma (a real football school) in the Big 12 title game. Not if OU brings their A gamewhich they have not done every game all year Luther On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:14:10 -0600, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I grew up a half hour south of WVU. I am a 50+ year Mountaineer fan. Wanna compare notes and BCS stuff? :-) D. I am a Missouri Tiger fan, so things are going very well for us. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] college football
and lsu loses. and va tech loses. and oklahoma doesn't move way up for beating #1. and no one feels sorry for one loss kansas. etc. once again the bcs fails us all. i doubt anyone thinks wvu would do as well playing in a major conference. would they really have one loss in the sec? mizzou has to win a championship game to get in, but ohio state doesn't have to do anything other than wait. in america, the champion is always decided via a playoff, except here where it is some strange popularity contest. everyone knows the right answer here. On Nov 26, 2007 11:52 AM, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, indeed. Now my beloved Dawgs are #4 in the BCS. When Pitt beats WV OU beats Mizzou, we will be #2 and BCS Championship bound. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] college football If LSU loses to ARK then it's an even bigger muddle. On Nov 22, 2007 6:48 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, you disappoint me. I thought your well trained cranium was sharper and more quick witted. Luther On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:33:03 -0600, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Default banned response. On Nov 21, 2007 1:45 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, the peverbial football powerhouse, The Big East Conference. Who does anyone in your league play?? Your WVU team has 1 loss to S.Florida, who is primed and ready to fall out of the top 25. How does that deserve a #3 ranking? Impressive. When's the last time you played a top 10 team? Lets look and see, #5 Louisville, November 2, 2006, a loss, 44-34. Then back to October 1, 2005 for a loss to #3 Virginia Tech 34-17. Oh yeah, you did beat #10 Georgia on January 2, 2006 38-35 for the ONLY victory against a top 10 team since at least 2001, and probably earlier. Yet every time you squeak into the top 10, your team finds a way to loose and drop closer to their true ranking. Your conference is impressively over inflated. The Big 12? This year, Kansas actually looks ok, and may have a chance to make it to the National Championship, even though they just barely squeaked by unranked Colorado, 19-14, and unranked Texas AM, 19-11. Sheesh, their 11-0 run has NO top 25 teams. Add that to the fact that their school is known for choking on the way to a probable national title game in other sports, nah...they don't have a prayer of making it to the top game. Kansas will beat Missouri on Saturday, by a touchdown or more in the Arrowhead Shootout. It might even be a rout of more than 21 points when both teams will score more than 40 Missouri can't stop the high-powered, strike-quick Kansas offense. Either way, a miracle, or not, neither Missouri or Kansas will beat Oklahoma (a real football school) in the Big 12 title game. Not if OU brings their A gamewhich they have not done every game all year Luther On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:14:10 -0600, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I grew up a half hour south of WVU. I am a 50+ year Mountaineer fan. Wanna compare notes and BCS stuff? :-) D. I am a Missouri Tiger fan, so things are going very well for us. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement
lol, ok, got it! ;-) Noticed the burn bulb warning light on the dash couple of days ago, and was all set to go and pick up a bottle of blinker fluid. Couldn't for the life of me find in the manual where to pour it in though!! ;-) Ed 300E On 26/11/2007, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: E M wrote: Ok, seen it a few times but never asked. What is blinker fluid? I'm curious. :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snipe_hunt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty's prices
RUSTY!
What about the Factory only Synthetic Blinkenfluid price and availability!???
lol
Rusty Cullens
BuyMBparts, Inc.
Tel 1-800-741-5252
Fax 770-454-9745
- Original Message -
From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty's prices
And the RockAuto B.B.Q. is when?
--
Regards,
Peter T. Arnold
2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 17Kmi, No problems!
1987 300SDL 280KMI Going soon
1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi
1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that
is!
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:38:16 -0700, you wrote:
I am yet again thankful that I am able to buy parts from Rusty.
His prices for the ignition lock I recently purchased are $ 208.00 retail
and $ 156.93 our price.
I recently got an email from Rock Auto, the place where I bought the Bosch
rubber caps to fix vacuum door lock actuators, reminding me of a discount
coupon that would soon expire. I went to their site and looked at prices
for parts for our '82 240D/3.0 (admittedly, their focus is domestic and
not foreign, but ...) and found that their selling price for the same part
is $336.79!
To be fair, they do list the MANN Part # PF10551X oil filter for $7.51
while Rusty lists a Mann filter for $ 8.81. They also list MANN Part
#WK716 Fuel Filter: Spin on for $6.37 while Rusty lists Fuel Filter Mahle
for $7.77 and Fuel Filter Bosch for $8.19. Comparing apples to apples,
however, Rock Auto lists BOSCH Part #74012 {Fuel Filter #1457434153}
Secondary fuel filter for $9.54.
For air filters, Rusty is cheaper at $11.44 versus Rock Auto's $11.61.
For wheel lug bolts, Rusty lists, Lug Bolt Febi (steel wheel) $ 1.51, and,
Lug Bolt Febi (alloy wheel) $ 3.47. Rock Auto lists FEBI Part #2014010270
{Wheel Bolt For steel wheel} $1.00 and FEBI Part # 1264010670F {Wheel Bolt
For alloy wheel #1264010670} $2.54.
Interesting.
Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 240D
Exactly, and exactly why the 616 should have a turbo from the factory. My only complaint about the 240D is the lack of acceleration - especially in summer with AC on. It's *really* slow ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D with the 300D turbo, you sacrifice mileage, the best thing about the 240D. yeah, I know, the 123 300D turbo is the best available compromise. At 07:47 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: Hi Loren, Agree with everything you said. My 78 240D starts instantly in all weather -- but the MB AT is a poor excuse for a transmission. A 5 speed would be wonderful - even a 4 speed considering the torque these engines have - would be much better than the AT. You're right about the ride - it rides like the luxury car it is - I've considered changing the engine/tranny out for a 300D turbo with manual tranny if I could find one since the body and interior are in good condition. Oh well - like everyone else - always wanting something else - Later - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:37 PM Subject: [MBZ] 240D My trusty 240D has set idly since about March or so when I was planning to try again to get the blasted 81 only auto trans to shift right. I put the battery charger on for a while, turned the key, it glowed and took off on the first cyl to hit the power stroke. It makes me remember why I love the cast iron 4 cyl engines so much. Look, it has a real radiator! (even if the tanks are plastic) No fancy electronics. With its new rear suspension and new Bilsteins all around, it rides and drives nice. If it just had a real 5 speed in place of the stupid auto, and if it only had a turbo It would really be the little engine that could. I never could understand why they put a turbo on the 617 but not the 616, which really could benefit form the boost. (literally and figuratively) Loren Faeth 80 240D 4 spd, waiting for an engine 81 240D, stinkin auto, great engine 66 200D 2.4, now there is a great car 66 200D Can you say OM621? et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.6/1150 - Release Date: 11/24/2007 5:58 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.7/1152 - Release Date: 11/26/2007 10:50 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D
FYI: Speaking of the OM616...I swung by the local Olympia WA Pick-a-Part yesterday and saw a '78 240D with what looked to be a complete engine/automagic with something like 226k on the odometer. It looked to be in the yard 'cause the hood flew up and smashed the windshield. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
I've never understood parking in neutral. What if the ebrake fails? I've had several cars (mostly American) where the ebrake didn't work well at all... The ebrake in my 190D is acceptable but not terrific. I use it only when I start the car on frosty mornings and then hop out to clear the windows. -Curt Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:02:49 -0700 From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Isn't there also pressure against a pin/stop of some sort? I was always taught to use park with e-brake. And, when on a hill/slope, e-brake and neutral with no park. Bob R. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cruise Control W124
Hello, I hope all is happy this post Thanksgiving day week - My 91 300D 2.5T Cruise Control usually works fine - my wife drives ~110 miles round trip to and from work each workday and uses the Cruise Control most of the time. Last night when driving home it refused to engage - where should I begin to troubleshoot? I have the manual but need to know what is the most likely place to look for trouble? Naturally, I'll check the fuse/2 first, but then what? BTW, in the past few months the CC would stop working briefly for no reason - but engaging the level again would start the CC again. Any ideas?? As usual, thanks for the wor Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ALDA interchangeability question - need quick answer (going to PNP)
Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:32:05 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Projekt-Wagen 2 w/ ALDA interchangeability question QUESTION: Is an ALDA off any turbo OM617 interchangeable with any other turbo OM617? Thanks! Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 368K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 58K miles, The Behemoth -1975 240D manual, W115, Projekt-Wagen 1 -1980 300SD, W116, Projekt-Wagen 2 - Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 368K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 58K miles, The Behemoth -1975 240D manual, W115, Projekt-Wagen 1 -1980 300SD, W116, Projekt-Wagen 2 - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALDA interchangeability question - need quick answer (going to PNP)
Yes, and it'll also work with any other MB pump that uses an ALDA. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil draining and sucking
Yesterday made me wish my car was slightly newer. My 115 has to have the filter element changed from underneath. I waited a bit too long ( I have changed the oil at Halloween the past couple of years when I put it away for winter) and the weather has turned cold here - about 5F yesterday. I plugged it in for a bit and got it warm enough to start up. Let it idle long enough to come up to temperature and then messed about with the coolant before doing the oil. I guess I let it cool a little too much as the oil took forever to drain out of the oil pan. The main amount came out like it should but then it just trickled out for a half an hour. I finally got tired of waiting and put the plug back in so I could pull the filter. Got that out and a new one in the canister etc. Then ran into trouble trying to get the darned thing back on the car. Too tight under there. I'm getting old and fat and I finally had to give up and haul out the floor jack to give myself a bit more room. Still couldn't get the filter to start. Difficult to do under there. By now it was supper time. Dark and cold and although I was in the garage, I had the big door open as I had moved the car back to give myself a bit more space at the front. I was struggling with it when my wife came out and said that the rest of them were tired of holding off dinner waiting for me. I was chilled to the bone and getting angry so I gave up. Just lowered it off of the jack and pushed it back into the garage. So right now, I have it sitting there with no oil in the pan, no filter on the car, the filter stuff in a garbage bag as it is oily and dirty, a pan of used oil sitting under the fuel tank at the back and perhaps little chance of revisiting this mess before the weather warms in April or May. So, right now, I am wishing I had the engine with the filter that loads from the top and a garage that I could heat enough to make winter work bearable. Supposed to be -4F tonight- snowing as I write this - ground is white and not likely to change prior to spring now. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hendrik Fay Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil draining and sucking Technically you are sucking the oil and not draining it, so we go the drainers and suckers on the list. I am a drainer because I also like to get under the car at least twice a year to check the steering components and anything else. Hendrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to be left out, so I drain my oil hot after a run, delayed only by the few minutes it takes to get out my Topsider and set it up. I have had no problems with using the thing in the seven years I've had it and the pickup tube has never melted despite all the old wives' tales to the contrary. By the way, my '08 C300 has a dipstick. Unlike my '01 C320 which had no dipstick, oil pressure gauge or idiot light. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty's prices
it's on back order
Rusty Cullens
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- Original Message -
From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty's prices
RUSTY!
What about the Factory only Synthetic Blinkenfluid price and
availability!???
lol
Rusty Cullens
BuyMBparts, Inc.
Tel 1-800-741-5252
Fax 770-454-9745
- Original Message -
From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty's prices
And the RockAuto B.B.Q. is when?
--
Regards,
Peter T. Arnold
2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 17Kmi, No problems!
1987 300SDL 280KMI Going soon
1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi
1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that
is!
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:38:16 -0700, you wrote:
I am yet again thankful that I am able to buy parts from Rusty.
His prices for the ignition lock I recently purchased are $ 208.00
retail
and $ 156.93 our price.
I recently got an email from Rock Auto, the place where I bought the
Bosch
rubber caps to fix vacuum door lock actuators, reminding me of a
discount
coupon that would soon expire. I went to their site and looked at
prices
for parts for our '82 240D/3.0 (admittedly, their focus is domestic and
not foreign, but ...) and found that their selling price for the same
part
is $336.79!
To be fair, they do list the MANN Part # PF10551X oil filter for $7.51
while Rusty lists a Mann filter for $ 8.81. They also list MANN Part
#WK716 Fuel Filter: Spin on for $6.37 while Rusty lists Fuel Filter
Mahle
for $7.77 and Fuel Filter Bosch for $8.19. Comparing apples to apples,
however, Rock Auto lists BOSCH Part #74012 {Fuel Filter #1457434153}
Secondary fuel filter for $9.54.
For air filters, Rusty is cheaper at $11.44 versus Rock Auto's $11.61.
For wheel lug bolts, Rusty lists, Lug Bolt Febi (steel wheel) $ 1.51,
and,
Lug Bolt Febi (alloy wheel) $ 3.47. Rock Auto lists FEBI Part
#2014010270
{Wheel Bolt For steel wheel} $1.00 and FEBI Part # 1264010670F {Wheel
Bolt
For alloy wheel #1264010670} $2.54.
Interesting.
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Re: [MBZ] Oil draining and sucking
Go rent one of those big space heaters that looks like a jet engine and turn it towards the car, let it go for 15 min or so, will warm up the garage a bit too, and you in it. Then finish up and take the heater back, feeling more relaxed and calmer. I live in Texas now so don't have to deal with that sort of thing much any more, but when I lived near Boston, I would occasionally have to resort to that approach. Cheap money. --R R A Bennell wrote: Yesterday made me wish my car was slightly newer. My 115 has to have the filter element changed from underneath. I waited a bit too long ( I have changed the oil at Halloween the past couple of years when I put it away for winter) and the weather has turned cold here - about 5F yesterday. I plugged it in for a bit and got it warm enough to start up. Let it idle long enough to come up to temperature and then messed about with the coolant before doing the oil. I guess I let it cool a little too much as the oil took forever to drain out of the oil pan. The main amount came out like it should but then it just trickled out for a half an hour. I finally got tired of waiting and put the plug back in so I could pull the filter. Got that out and a new one in the canister etc. Then ran into trouble trying to get the darned thing back on the car. Too tight under there. I'm getting old and fat and I finally had to give up and haul out the floor jack to give myself a bit more room. Still couldn't get the filter to start. Difficult to do under there. By now it was supper time. Dark and cold and although I was in the garage, I had the big door open as I had moved the car back to give myself a bit more space at the front. I was struggling with it when my wife came out and said that the rest of them were tired of holding off dinner waiting for me. I was chilled to the bone and getting angry so I gave up. Just lowered it off of the jack and pushed it back into the garage. So right now, I have it sitting there with no oil in the pan, no filter on the car, the filter stuff in a garbage bag as it is oily and dirty, a pan of used oil sitting under the fuel tank at the back and perhaps little chance of revisiting this mess before the weather warms in April or May. So, right now, I am wishing I had the engine with the filter that loads from the top and a garage that I could heat enough to make winter work bearable. Supposed to be -4F tonight- snowing as I write this - ground is white and not likely to change prior to spring now. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hendrik Fay Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil draining and sucking Technically you are sucking the oil and not draining it, so we go the drainers and suckers on the list. I am a drainer because I also like to get under the car at least twice a year to check the steering components and anything else. Hendrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to be left out, so I drain my oil hot after a run, delayed only by the few minutes it takes to get out my Topsider and set it up. I have had no problems with using the thing in the seven years I've had it and the pickup tube has never melted despite all the old wives' tales to the contrary. By the way, my '08 C300 has a dipstick. Unlike my '01 C320 which had no dipstick, oil pressure gauge or idiot light. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil draining and sucking
I actually miss the 220D the two 240D's I used to own, all but the oil filters and the blower motors. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11/26/07 01:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil draining and sucking -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Yesterday made me wish my car was slightly newer. My 115 has to have the filter element changed from underneath. I waited a bit too long ( I have changed the oil at Halloween the past couple of years when I put it away for winter) and the weather has turned cold here - about 5F yesterday. I plugged it in for a bit and got it warm enough to start up. Let it idle long enough to come up to temperature and then messed about with the coolant before doing the oil. I guess I let it cool a little too much as the oil took forever to drain out of the oil pan. The main amount came out like it should but then it just trickled out for a half an hour. I finally got tired of waiting and put the plug back in so I could pull the filter. Got that out and a new one in the canister etc. Then ran into trouble trying to get the darned thing back on the car. Too tight under there. I'm getting old and fat and I finally had to give up and haul out the floor jack to give myself a bit more room. Still couldn't get the filter to start. Difficult to do under there. By now it was supper time. Dark and cold and although I was in the garage, I had the big door open as I had moved the car back to give myself a bit more space at the front. I was struggling with it when my wife came out and said that the rest of them were tired of holding off dinner waiting for me. I was chilled to the bone and getting angry so I gave up. Just lowered it off of the jack and pushed it back into the garage. So right now, I have it sitting there with no oil in the pan, no filter on the car, the filter stuff in a garbage bag as it is oily and dirty, a pan of used oil sitting under the fuel tank at the back and perhaps little chance of revisiting this mess before the weather warms in April or May. So, right now, I am wishing I had the engine with the filter that loads from the top and a garage that I could heat enough to make winter work bearable. Supposed to be -4F tonight- snowing as I write this - ground is white and not likely to change prior to spring now. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hendrik Fay Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil draining and sucking Technically you are sucking the oil and not draining it, so we go the drainers and suckers on the list. I am a drainer because I also like to get under the car at least twice a year to check the steering components and anything else. Hendrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to be left out, so I drain my oil hot after a run, delayed only by the few minutes it takes to get out my Topsider and set it up. I have had no problems with using the thing in the seven years I've had it and the pickup tube has never melted despite all the old wives' tales to the contrary. By the way, my '08 C300 has a dipstick. Unlike my '01 C320 which had no dipstick, oil pressure gauge or idiot light. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new addition
$400. Not a bad deal. On 11/26/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Woohoo! How much? At 07:14 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: it's the 4-speed manual. New clutch, new master and slave cylinders, new brake system. Girlfriend thinks I'm selling it immediately for profit, don't need to tell parents b/c I insure my own cars. Adulthood. On Nov 25, 2007 11:46 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: Sunil, you didn't say if it is an auto or the coveted 4 speed. He also didn't say what the girlfriend and parents think of it. I'm sure the parents are ecstatic. ;-) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D
in Team America, they said Durka durka, muhammad jihad Ghurkas are warriors from northern India that fight in the British Army. On 11/26/07, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI: Speaking of the OM616...I swung by the local Olympia WA Pick-a-Part yesterday and saw a '78 240D with what looked to be a complete engine/automagic with something like 226k on the odometer. It looked to be in the yard 'cause the hood flew up and smashed the windshield. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D
In fact I think that everybody else should just have to tow an anchor. I wasn't ever bothered by my 240D's sedate acceleration but other people seemed to be... As far as I'm concerned my 190D 2.2l is just about perfect. Of course 40mpg helps me feel that way. -Curt Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:51:01 -0600 From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Exactly, and exactly why the 616 should have a turbo from the factory. - Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D
A 190D 2.2L is a race car compared to a 123 body 240D with an automatic transmission. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11/26/07 02:33 PM To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= In fact I think that everybody else should just have to tow an anchor. I wasn't ever bothered by my 240D's sedate acceleration but other people seemed to be... As far as I'm concerned my 190D 2.2l is just about perfect. Of course 40mpg helps me feel that way. -Curt Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:51:01 -0600 From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Exactly, and exactly why the 616 should have a turbo from the factory. - Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALDA interchangeability question - need quick answer (going to PNP)
Thanks! Chris Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, and it'll also work with any other MB pump that uses an ALDA. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 368K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 58K miles, The Behemoth -1975 240D manual, W115, Projekt-Wagen 1 -1980 300SD, W116, Projekt-Wagen 2 - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] taught
Isn't there also pressure against a pin/stop of some sort? I was always taught to use park with e-brake. And, when on a hill/slope, e-brake and neutral with no park. Taught by whom? RLE ** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change
Hi Fred, The wench arrived today -- actually they tried to deliver it yesterday but I didnlt hear their horn and they didn;t come to the door like they are supposed to - anyway - brought it back today and I have it. What a beautiful tool! I have a lot of Hazets unusual tools - VW oil cooler wrench, tire irons, and some other special tools. I gotta find one of the rear axle wrenches! Thx ;-) Will get the fluid changed ASAP! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Frederick W Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change Try Hazet Oil Service Wrench #2567-1 it's da bomb. Fred Moir Tried to have a local shop replace my rear axle fluid recently. His allen wrench would not clear the other stuff around the rear axle and engage the socket properly. So I drive there with my tools and we tried mine - but the only one I had in a 14mmm IIRC was a standard L wrench. Has anyone tried to remove the fill plug on a 91 300D 2.5?Would really like to put the Mobil 1 Synthetic I have in the axle - Any ideas about what kind of Allen Wrench *will work? Maybe a 14mm stub of allen into a socket with a universal? Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.31/1128 - Release Date: 11/13/2007 11:09 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil draining and sucking
I have one of those electric construction heaters with a coil and a fan in the middle. However, my garage is uninsulated and the ceiling is open to a big attic. I need to close the ceiling off and put some insulation in. Then I could probably warm it sufficiently to work in there a bit when I needed to. Wouldn't be hot but does not need to be. A new garage door wouldn't hurt either since mine is metal and not insulated. Just another one of those projects that has been on the list for many years. When it is warm enough to work on it, one does not and when it is too cold, one wishes one had done so. I used to be tougher too. I can recall changing the thermostat in my wife's car when it was -25F with a floodlight bulb in a socket hung over my hands to keep them from freezing. I think now I would just take it too a garage and have it done but a few years back I did it all myself. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 2:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil draining and sucking Go rent one of those big space heaters that looks like a jet engine and turn it towards the car, let it go for 15 min or so, will warm up the garage a bit too, and you in it. Then finish up and take the heater back, feeling more relaxed and calmer. I live in Texas now so don't have to deal with that sort of thing much any more, but when I lived near Boston, I would occasionally have to resort to that approach. Cheap money. --R R A Bennell wrote: Yesterday made me wish my car was slightly newer. My 115 has to have the filter element changed from underneath. I waited a bit too long ( I have changed the oil at Halloween the past couple of years when I put it away for winter) and the weather has turned cold here - about 5F yesterday. I plugged it in for a bit and got it warm enough to start up. Let it idle long enough to come up to temperature and then messed about with the coolant before doing the oil. I guess I let it cool a little too much as the oil took forever to drain out of the oil pan. The main amount came out like it should but then it just trickled out for a half an hour. I finally got tired of waiting and put the plug back in so I could pull the filter. Got that out and a new one in the canister etc. Then ran into trouble trying to get the darned thing back on the car. Too tight under there. I'm getting old and fat and I finally had to give up and haul out the floor jack to give myself a bit more room. Still couldn't get the filter to start. Difficult to do under there. By now it was supper time. Dark and cold and although I was in the garage, I had the big door open as I had moved the car back to give myself a bit more space at the front. I was struggling with it when my wife came out and said that the rest of them were tired of holding off dinner waiting for me. I was chilled to the bone and getting angry so I gave up. Just lowered it off of the jack and pushed it back into the garage. So right now, I have it sitting there with no oil in the pan, no filter on the car, the filter stuff in a garbage bag as it is oily and dirty, a pan of used oil sitting under the fuel tank at the back and perhaps little chance of revisiting this mess before the weather warms in April or May. So, right now, I am wishing I had the engine with the filter that loads from the top and a garage that I could heat enough to make winter work bearable. Supposed to be -4F tonight- snowing as I write this - ground is white and not likely to change prior to spring now. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hendrik Fay Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil draining and sucking Technically you are sucking the oil and not draining it, so we go the drainers and suckers on the list. I am a drainer because I also like to get under the car at least twice a year to check the steering components and anything else. Hendrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to be left out, so I drain my oil hot after a run, delayed only by the few minutes it takes to get out my Topsider and set it up. I have had no problems with using the thing in the seven years I've had it and the pickup tube has never melted despite all the old wives' tales to the contrary. By the way, my '08 C300 has a dipstick. Unlike my '01 C320 which had no dipstick, oil pressure gauge or idiot light. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see
Re: [MBZ] 240D
Is your 190D auto or stick? Curt Raymond wrote: In fact I think that everybody else should just have to tow an anchor. I wasn't ever bothered by my 240D's sedate acceleration but other people seemed to be... As far as I'm concerned my 190D 2.2l is just about perfect. Of course 40mpg helps me feel that way. -Curt Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:51:01 -0600 From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Exactly, and exactly why the 616 should have a turbo from the factory. - Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty's prices
Why is it on Backorder?
I heard it finally rained down there.
Thank the Lord for that
Pete
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:51:14 -0500, you wrote:
it's on back order
Rusty Cullens
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Tel 1-800-741-5252
Fax 770-454-9745
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From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty's prices
RUSTY!
What about the Factory only Synthetic Blinkenfluid price and
availability!???
lol
Rusty Cullens
BuyMBparts, Inc.
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From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty's prices
And the RockAuto B.B.Q. is when?
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Regards,
Peter T. Arnold
2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 17Kmi, No problems!
1987 300SDL 280KMI Going soon
1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi
1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that
is!
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:38:16 -0700, you wrote:
I am yet again thankful that I am able to buy parts from Rusty.
His prices for the ignition lock I recently purchased are $ 208.00
retail
and $ 156.93 our price.
I recently got an email from Rock Auto, the place where I bought the
Bosch
rubber caps to fix vacuum door lock actuators, reminding me of a
discount
coupon that would soon expire. I went to their site and looked at
prices
for parts for our '82 240D/3.0 (admittedly, their focus is domestic and
not foreign, but ...) and found that their selling price for the same
part
is $336.79!
To be fair, they do list the MANN Part # PF10551X oil filter for $7.51
while Rusty lists a Mann filter for $ 8.81. They also list MANN Part
#WK716 Fuel Filter: Spin on for $6.37 while Rusty lists Fuel Filter
Mahle
for $7.77 and Fuel Filter Bosch for $8.19. Comparing apples to apples,
however, Rock Auto lists BOSCH Part #74012 {Fuel Filter #1457434153}
Secondary fuel filter for $9.54.
For air filters, Rusty is cheaper at $11.44 versus Rock Auto's $11.61.
For wheel lug bolts, Rusty lists, Lug Bolt Febi (steel wheel) $ 1.51,
and,
Lug Bolt Febi (alloy wheel) $ 3.47. Rock Auto lists FEBI Part
#2014010270
{Wheel Bolt For steel wheel} $1.00 and FEBI Part # 1264010670F {Wheel
Bolt
For alloy wheel #1264010670} $2.54.
Interesting.
Craig
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Re: [MBZ] taught
By someone whose word...regarding anything... I took as Gospel when I was very young. It then became habit. Never really questioned it because it never was an issue. I find myself using the e-brake less and less these days Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 2:35 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] taught Isn't there also pressure against a pin/stop of some sort? I was always taught to use park with e-brake. And, when on a hill/slope, e-brake and neutral with no park. Taught by whom? RLE ** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Projekt-Wagen 2 w/ ALDA interchangeability question
Oh boy, you've got it bad, REALLY BAD! If only I had the money after purchasing this new house, I would too! Have fun with your Diesel projekts! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change
autozone sells a set of large allen sockets - 12, 14 and 16mm, IIRC. They're $10 for the set. the 14mm one fits the rear diff and the manual gearbox drain plugs. the 12mm one fits the manual transmission drain plug on a classic Saab 900. Worth their weight in silver. On Nov 26, 2007 4:50 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Fred, The wench arrived today -- actually they tried to deliver it yesterday but I didnlt hear their horn and they didn;t come to the door like they are supposed to - anyway - brought it back today and I have it. What a beautiful tool! I have a lot of Hazets unusual tools - VW oil cooler wrench, tire irons, and some other special tools. I gotta find one of the rear axle wrenches! Thx ;-) Will get the fluid changed ASAP! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Frederick W Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change Try Hazet Oil Service Wrench #2567-1 it's da bomb. Fred Moir Tried to have a local shop replace my rear axle fluid recently. His allen wrench would not clear the other stuff around the rear axle and engage the socket properly. So I drive there with my tools and we tried mine - but the only one I had in a 14mmm IIRC was a standard L wrench. Has anyone tried to remove the fill plug on a 91 300D 2.5?Would really like to put the Mobil 1 Synthetic I have in the axle - Any ideas about what kind of Allen Wrench *will work? Maybe a 14mm stub of allen into a socket with a universal? Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.31/1128 - Release Date: 11/13/2007 11:09 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
Auto boxes have a parking engagement device, however I STRONGLY recommend that everyone get in the habit of using the hand brake, even on flat ground. My Mum had an experience recently whereby the car chased her because she didn't put the car in P properly and either she did not pull on the hand brake hard enough (easy to do on a RHD 201 because the hand brake is close to the passenger seat and you sort of have to lean over to pull it on hard) or did not use it at all. Luckily the car missed her by a couple of feet but it could have been very nasty. I recommend using P on autos all the time, engage hand brake and then place in P, if the hand brake is working properly the vehicles weight should not rest against the internal gearbox stop but that internal stop is a fail safe in case your hand brake lets go for whatever reason. There is absolutely no reason not to place the auto in P, they are designed to do this. It is things like this 'when on a hill/slope, e-brake and neutral with no park' stuff that makes me a great believer in making new drivers take professional lessons so they don't pick up bad habits from 'experienced' drivers. Pro driving instructors are best placed to teach the ins and outs of motoring. Hendrik who likes the RHD 123 dash mounted hand brake and wonders how you do a smooth hill start in a manual car with a foot operated park brake (eg. the 124's) Robert Rentfro wrote: Isn't there also pressure against a pin/stop of some sort? I was always taught to use park with e-brake. And, when on a hill/slope, e-brake and neutral with no park. Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] taught
For those that do not know, I am on the prairies. A friend once said one could tell I did not originate here as I set the parking brake when I got out of the car. He said true flatlanders never bothered because one did not need to. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Rentfro Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 4:20 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] taught By someone whose word...regarding anything... I took as Gospel when I was very young. It then became habit. Never really questioned it because it never was an issue. I find myself using the e-brake less and less these days Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 2:35 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] taught Isn't there also pressure against a pin/stop of some sort? I was always taught to use park with e-brake. And, when on a hill/slope, e-brake and neutral with no park. Taught by whom? RLE ** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control W124
Check the stop lamp bulbs first, replace if old (tungsten on the bulb insides). The CC grounds via the stop lamp bulbs, so it disengages when there is 12 V on the filaments (while stopping). A bad filament or too much resistance (thin filament) can keep the CC from working. However, if it drops of occasionally, but comes back when re-engaged or by itself, the usual culprit is a bad amplifier -- the solder cracks and the servo doesn't get engaged. Good idea to have someone check out the servo before replacing the amplifier, though -- a bad servo will promptly eat a new $450 amplifier! If the operating lever is floppy, you need a new switch, too. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The truth about X-Ice
Zenon wrote: mercedes@okiebenz.com There are two types of winter tires. Snow tires and winter tires. Snow tires have a course tread, trap snow in the lugs and the trapped snow contacting the snow on the ground is what gives you traction. This kind of tire is for the really snowy regions. Most urban folks don't require these. The winter tire is one that has a finer tread and sipes to give traction on hard snoe and ice. We've used Blizaaks (Jetta and now on two Smarts), X-ice on a 123, Hak 1's with studs on a 124, Toyo GO+ on a 123 wagon and on a Toyota Tercel, and Goodyear Ultragrip Ice on a 123. My son was on a throughway, cruising at a steady speed, did a 360 and will never buy X-ice again. We've had excellent service from the Toyo's and the Goodyear. The Hak's are OK but nothing exceptional. I would shop for price for the Toyos or Goodyears. Oh yeah, somewhere in there, we had Yokohama's on the Jetta. Nothing to write home about. By the bye. Do you use a winter tire that is more than 50% worn? If not, Blizaaks. Undoubtedly the best. Zonon: Thanks for sharing your experience. That is info I need. I do intend to use winter tires beyond 50% worn - as winter tires. Maybe I am spoiled and my expectations are unrealistic. But my old Nokian NRW's were very effective winter tires until they got close to bald. In about the 5th winter those tires had more than 40 k miles on them. That year we had a bad pre-Christmas snow storm. My E300D with those Nokian Haks took me hundreds of sure footed miles through that storm. A day after the storm, I was the first vehicle to travel down some city back streets where the snow was as deep as the bottom of my car. It went down those streets like a bulldozer. Maybe a 124 with worn winter tires is not supposed to be able to do that. But this car did it. And I want another set of tires that can do that. The last two winters, I've used Nokian WR's, which I plan to leave on my son's 124. The WR's are better than most all-season tires and they work well in the summer. But for all out winter performance, they can't touch the old NRW's. I have not owned any other type of winter tires since a couple decades ago when I mounted snow tires on the back wheels of my VW bug and my MB 114/8. With all season radials, my 124 was so bad on snow that I had to do something, so I tried Nokians Haks. The X-Ice reviews on the internet seem to run the extremes. The owners either loved or hated them. Thanks again for your help. Ned Kleinhenz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] best drainage strategy
You obviously have not been paying attention have you, the problem is that the oil pump takes a few seconds to prime and during this time there is no oil circulating. If you leave the car overnight more oil will drain off the internals and leave them exposed to harsh metal on metal action. That is why I recommend drain hot to get as much oil out as quickly as possible, change filter, fill with fresh oil and start the motor. This leaves a little oil on the internals to help protect them during the time the oil pump primes up. As an example then engine in my 230E is getting a bit tired and the valve train likes to rattle a bit in the morning before the oil gets up there, however doing an oil change my way there is no/very little rattle while the oil pump primes because there is a coating of oil on the lifters. Doing it your way the lifters would rattle for a good 5 seconds. That's my theory. However as stated before you are entitled to do an oil change any which way you see fit. Sure you may be right and either way you gain very little in the way of engine life but I like to do things to the best of my ability and not just do what's easy. Doing things the easy and perhaps incorrect way leads to laziness, mediocrity and loss of self esteem. It's like a mediocre driver instruction system leads to mediocre drivers, sure some are better than others because they taking driving seriously. Hendrik Curt Raymond wrote: I think you miss my point. If I leave my car overnight, drain in the morning, put in new oil and go on my way how is that one more cold start? If you can't prove beyond a resonable doubt (like do side by side tests, then breakdown each engine and measure and find one method superior) its all theory. As I said before in all likelyhood it doesn't matter spit either way. Lets assume the hot method results in 100 extra miles due to reduced wear per-oil change. Thats going to work out to what 20,000 over the life of the car? Most people don't keep their cars that long. In which case my changing the oil every 10,000 miles (analysis says its safe) will result in even LESS wear... -Curt D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
Hendrik Fay wrote: Auto boxes have a parking engagement device, however I STRONGLY recommend that everyone get in the habit of using the hand brake, even on flat ground. My employer at the Saab shop lost a parking pawl about 20 years ago. He left the car in the handicap spot closest to the store, flat parking lot, lever in 'P', handbrake off. A delivery truck backed into his car, no obvious bumper damage, but the Borg-Warner box didn't like it at all. Saab parking brakes in that era (Girling front disk parking/service brakes) could lock the front wheels with ease. If he'd set the brake, there's no way the tranny would have been damaged. As for the suggestion to leave the lever in neutral so that the lever wouldn't get stuck in 'P' if the parking brake didn't hold on a hill, would you rather return to your car to find tension on the parking pawl, or perhaps it's better to find your car not where you left it if the p-brake doesn't hold? The 'P' on the tranny is there for redundancy in case the p-brake fails. Using it *except* when on a hill where it might be useful is silly. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil draining and sucking
I just checked prices on styrofoam (like) sheet insulation in 4'x8' - Home Depot has it for $9-$10 each. Once my new metal 3 car garage is done I;ll start installing them (once I buy them) ;-) and I hear they are *very* effective. Will insulate the ceiling and walls. The foam sheets are easy to install buy I haven't compared prices with the pink insulation - which I dislike because it always gets in my skin.. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil draining and sucking I have one of those electric construction heaters with a coil and a fan in the middle. However, my garage is uninsulated and the ceiling is open to a big attic. I need to close the ceiling off and put some insulation in. Then I could probably warm it sufficiently to work in there a bit when I needed to. Wouldn't be hot but does not need to be. A new garage door wouldn't hurt either since mine is metal and not insulated. Just another one of those projects that has been on the list for many years. When it is warm enough to work on it, one does not and when it is too cold, one wishes one had done so. I used to be tougher too. I can recall changing the thermostat in my wife's car when it was -25F with a floodlight bulb in a socket hung over my hands to keep them from freezing. I think now I would just take it too a garage and have it done but a few years back I did it all myself. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 2:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil draining and sucking Go rent one of those big space heaters that looks like a jet engine and turn it towards the car, let it go for 15 min or so, will warm up the garage a bit too, and you in it. Then finish up and take the heater back, feeling more relaxed and calmer. I live in Texas now so don't have to deal with that sort of thing much any more, but when I lived near Boston, I would occasionally have to resort to that approach. Cheap money. --R R A Bennell wrote: Yesterday made me wish my car was slightly newer. My 115 has to have the filter element changed from underneath. I waited a bit too long ( I have changed the oil at Halloween the past couple of years when I put it away for winter) and the weather has turned cold here - about 5F yesterday. I plugged it in for a bit and got it warm enough to start up. Let it idle long enough to come up to temperature and then messed about with the coolant before doing the oil. I guess I let it cool a little too much as the oil took forever to drain out of the oil pan. The main amount came out like it should but then it just trickled out for a half an hour. I finally got tired of waiting and put the plug back in so I could pull the filter. Got that out and a new one in the canister etc. Then ran into trouble trying to get the darned thing back on the car. Too tight under there. I'm getting old and fat and I finally had to give up and haul out the floor jack to give myself a bit more room. Still couldn't get the filter to start. Difficult to do under there. By now it was supper time. Dark and cold and although I was in the garage, I had the big door open as I had moved the car back to give myself a bit more space at the front. I was struggling with it when my wife came out and said that the rest of them were tired of holding off dinner waiting for me. I was chilled to the bone and getting angry so I gave up. Just lowered it off of the jack and pushed it back into the garage. So right now, I have it sitting there with no oil in the pan, no filter on the car, the filter stuff in a garbage bag as it is oily and dirty, a pan of used oil sitting under the fuel tank at the back and perhaps little chance of revisiting this mess before the weather warms in April or May. So, right now, I am wishing I had the engine with the filter that loads from the top and a garage that I could heat enough to make winter work bearable. Supposed to be -4F tonight- snowing as I write this - ground is white and not likely to change prior to spring now. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hendrik Fay Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil draining and sucking Technically you are sucking the oil and not draining it, so we go the drainers and suckers on the list. I am a drainer because I also like to get under the car at least twice a year to check the
Re: [MBZ] taught
I was always warned not to use parking brake (non-MB) in the winter as the cable would often freeze up? On a manual trans was always told 1st or preferably reverse. A friend's wife rushed into grocery a few years back and absentmindedly forgot to put the car in gear or engage the parking brake. When she shut the door and the vacume locked down it was just enough of a jolt to cause the car to start rolling. She could only watch the thing roll backwards and pancake off an embankment. Beautiful 300D. Insurance called it a total loss. on 11/26/07 6:07 PM, R A Bennell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those that do not know, I am on the prairies. A friend once said one could tell I did not originate here as I set the parking brake when I got out of the car. He said true flatlanders never bothered because one did not need to. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Rentfro Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 4:20 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] taught By someone whose word...regarding anything... I took as Gospel when I was very young. It then became habit. Never really questioned it because it never was an issue. I find myself using the e-brake less and less these days Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 2:35 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] taught Isn't there also pressure against a pin/stop of some sort? I was always taught to use park with e-brake. And, when on a hill/slope, e-brake and neutral with no park. Taught by whom? RLE ** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change
Thx - I;ll buy a set! ;-)but for now I use the Hazet tool Fred kindly loaned me. Thanks for the tip!! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change autozone sells a set of large allen sockets - 12, 14 and 16mm, IIRC. They're $10 for the set. the 14mm one fits the rear diff and the manual gearbox drain plugs. the 12mm one fits the manual transmission drain plug on a classic Saab 900. Worth their weight in silver. On Nov 26, 2007 4:50 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Fred, The wench arrived today -- actually they tried to deliver it yesterday but I didnlt hear their horn and they didn;t come to the door like they are supposed to - anyway - brought it back today and I have it. What a beautiful tool! I have a lot of Hazets unusual tools - VW oil cooler wrench, tire irons, and some other special tools. I gotta find one of the rear axle wrenches! Thx ;-) Will get the fluid changed ASAP! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Frederick W Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change Try Hazet Oil Service Wrench #2567-1 it's da bomb. Fred Moir Tried to have a local shop replace my rear axle fluid recently. His allen wrench would not clear the other stuff around the rear axle and engage the socket properly. So I drive there with my tools and we tried mine - but the only one I had in a 14mmm IIRC was a standard L wrench. Has anyone tried to remove the fill plug on a 91 300D 2.5?Would really like to put the Mobil 1 Synthetic I have in the axle - Any ideas about what kind of Allen Wrench *will work? Maybe a 14mm stub of allen into a socket with a universal? Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.31/1128 - Release Date: 11/13/2007 11:09 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.7/1152 - Release Date: 11/26/2007 10:50 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change
:-D that's not a nice way to talk about your mother in law LarryT wrote: Hi Fred, The wench arrived today -- actually they tried to deliver it yesterday ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control W124
Thx Peter -- I'll check the bulbs - it dropped out maybe once or twice a month - but yesterday it stopped completely and did not re-engage. Hopefully it's not the amp. The operating stalk is like new. no play at all. Hopefully new bulbs will help - I have a supply of Osram - I believe they are OE. Thx again for the info - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control W124 Check the stop lamp bulbs first, replace if old (tungsten on the bulb insides). The CC grounds via the stop lamp bulbs, so it disengages when there is 12 V on the filaments (while stopping). A bad filament or too much resistance (thin filament) can keep the CC from working. However, if it drops of occasionally, but comes back when re-engaged or by itself, the usual culprit is a bad amplifier -- the solder cracks and the servo doesn't get engaged. Good idea to have someone check out the servo before replacing the amplifier, though -- a bad servo will promptly eat a new $450 amplifier! If the operating lever is floppy, you need a new switch, too. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.7/1152 - Release Date: 11/26/2007 10:50 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear Axle Fluid Change and the tools to do a good job
I bought a set of allen sockets in kit form: http://www.transquip.com.au/product.aspx?ID=2931PARENT=324 http://www.kctools.com.au/images/2005_Catalogue_jpegs/KC%20TOOLS%20Catalogue/slides/page24.html and they are the ducks guts for working on MB's and also I had a Bosch Dremel type tool break down and thanks to the tamper-proof bits in the kit could pull it apart and fix it. Nothing quite like having proper tools for working on cars. Hendrik who likes tools the way some like guns Sunil Hari wrote: autozone sells a set of large allen sockets - 12, 14 and 16mm, IIRC. They're $10 for the set. the 14mm one fits the rear diff and the manual gearbox drain plugs. the 12mm one fits the manual transmission drain plug on a classic Saab 900. Worth their weight in silver. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
