Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today
But wouldn't that go against "free market"? z Quoting "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > That was 3.93 I think. Its 3.88 and up around here. Mostly up. > > I have a theory though about these stupid high diesel prices. Seems to > me like they are artificially holding the price of gas down, and > inflating the price of diesel to make their profit. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
Ahh, but look at Exxon. earnings statements for 2005, 2006, 2007... http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=XOM&annual 2005 total revenue of $370,680,000,000 2005 net income of $36,130,000,000 Profit 9.74695% 2006 total revenue of $377,635,000,000 2006 net income of $39,500,000,000 profit 10.4598% 2007 total revenue of $404,552,000,000 2007 net income of $40,160,000,000 profit 10.0383% and a few more years 2004 8.4990% from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf 2003 9.0739% from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf 2002 5.7029% from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf As you can see2006 and 2007 were better than $0.90 on the dollar operating ratio -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Record profits? Tell us what the difference is between a profit and a > profit margin. > > Luther wrote: >> I believe in the free market, but does it really work? Take a look >> at the fuel industry. Record prices AND record profits... >> That's not free market... >> >> Luther >> >> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:55:58 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> So you do not believe in a free market? >>> >>> Luther wrote: You can live that fairy tale, but this is the real world. Luther On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:27:41 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BZZZT, WRONG. Competition will result in lower prices. If company A no > longer h as to pay the embedded tax, they can lower their price by x > amount, so they will them be cheaper than company B. Soon, company B > will also lower their price as well to keep up. > > Luther wrote: >> HAHAHAHA. That is BS. Do you really think large companies like >> Wal-Fart will lower their prices when they know that people will >> pay them? Hell no, that's potential profit lost. Sheesh. >> >> >> > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today
> But wouldn't that go against "free market"? Free markets are only free if (in addition to many other things) there are enough independent operators to cancel out aberrations in the management of one of said operators. Once you've got a very limited number of suppliers (relative to the number of consumers) then bad things can start to happen. The very worst thing is usually a monopoly, something that pretty much describes a government, which is the reason that said gov't should be limited in its sphere of activities to only the bare minimum. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gil Racing
Anyone know if Alvaro Gil is still actively selling the wheel adaptor kits? There is pretty much nothing for sale at the Gil Racing storefront Thanks -- "Mac" Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec (Canada) Mercedes: '82 300sd / '82 240d (x2) / '60 220s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gil Racing
Steve MacSween wrote: > Anyone know if Alvaro Gil is still actively selling the wheel adaptor kits? Jamie says he's got a real job now and has moved on, but may still have some left. Email and see, I guess. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today
yep Luther wrote: > But wouldn't that go against "free market"? > > z > > Quoting "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> That was 3.93 I think. Its 3.88 and up around here. Mostly up. >> >> I have a theory though about these stupid high diesel prices. Seems to >> me like they are artificially holding the price of gas down, and >> inflating the price of diesel to make their profit. >> > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Antique 58 Mercedes Westfalia Camper, needs full restoration. CHEAP - $1100 (dover nh)
Fred, This looks like a good project for you-drop that spare 2.5DT in it and really have something. (Of course shag carpets, etc.) Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 9:50 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Antique 58 Mercedes Westfalia Camper,needs full restoration. CHEAP - $1100 (dover nh) An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080419/fd9 dd89d/attachment.pl ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo
Ditto to what Kaleb said. I love mine. But maybe in the NE would sell for more than 8K. -I know of one with 87K that recently sold on auto trader in CT for $14,500. I have been tempted to try to sell mine for $10-12K, but love it too much. Only beef-(other than AC evaporator leaks, etc,) I am not that tall 5'10" but can't get seat back far enough to straighten out my right knee when I drive on long trips.. I have tried all adjustments-but my 123's are more comfortable in front seats in that regard, even though they are manually adjusted. I see NO downside in buying this model. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo There are many pros, no cons I can think of. They are probably the best cars MB ever made. Mine gets 33mpg, has plenty of power, drives very nice, no problems. If it really has 45k on it I would figure it would sell for 8k plus. Tom Harruff wrote: > Listers > > I have found a 1992 300 D (2.5 Turbo) with 45,000 miles indicated in the ad. > > Before I call and go to look at the vehicle, what are the listers experiences with this vehicle. Pluses and minuses? I recall lots of past discussions about the 2.5 but have not really followed them. > > Price (other than Kaleb's standard $500) that it should sell for? > > Thanks. > > Tom Harruff > Naples, FL > 1985 300Dt (Diesel Dolly) > 1994 C280 (Wife's Car) > 2000 Sedan Deville (Road Car) > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Was I fill up the 140 with diesel today, now Current Fuel Tax Rates
Has anyone considered that it takes more oil to make a gallon of diesel than a gallon of gas? Also, diesel fuel is subject to additional federal taxes and in many sates, additional state taxes. For example: As of Oct1 of 97, federal tax per gallon of gas was 18.4 cents and federal tax per gallon of diesel was 24.4 cents. This represents a 6 cents per gallon difference between gas and diesel. I don't believe the federal tax rate has changed since 1997. In Alabama, the current tax per gallon of gas is 18 cents and current tax per gallon of diesel is 21 cents. This represents a additional 3 cents per gallon for diesel, for a total difference of 9 cents per gallon. Florida's tax difference is huge. 15.6 cents per gallon for gas verses 29 cents per gallon for diesel, for a total difference (incl. the Feds) of 19.4 cents per gallon! Pennsylvania's fuel taxes are the highest in the nation. 31.2 cents per gallon for gas and 38.10 cents per gallon for diesel! Here’s a link to the entire document, where you can look up your state. http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/petroleum_mar keting_monthly/current/pdf/enote.pdf Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today yep Luther wrote: > But wouldn't that go against "free market"? > > z > > Quoting "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> That was 3.93 I think. Its 3.88 and up around here. Mostly up. >> >> I have a theory though about these stupid high diesel prices. Seems to >> me like they are artificially holding the price of gas down, and >> inflating the price of diesel to make their profit. >> > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 0.0.0/0 - Release Date: 12:00 AM Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 0.0.0/0 - Release Date: 12:00 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
Oil companies should be nationalized and run by the federal government, with all excess income going to fund programs. That ought to make things better. --R Luther wrote: > Ahh, but look at Exxon. > earnings statements for 2005, 2006, 2007... > http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=XOM&annual > > 2005 total revenue of $370,680,000,000 > 2005 net income of $36,130,000,000 > Profit 9.74695% > > 2006 total revenue of $377,635,000,000 > 2006 net income of $39,500,000,000 > profit 10.4598% > > 2007 total revenue of $404,552,000,000 > 2007 net income of $40,160,000,000 > profit 10.0383% > > and a few more years > 2004 8.4990% > from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf > > 2003 9.0739% > from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf > > 2002 5.7029% > from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf > > As you can see2006 and 2007 were better than $0.90 on the dollar operating > ratio > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
Nationalize oil companies? Then why not nationalize healthcare, convenience stores, home mortgages, banking, grocery stores, Wal-Mart, GE, Microsoft? And while you are at it, why not just invite the Federal Government into 100% of our lives?? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes Oil companies should be nationalized and run by the federal government, with all excess income going to fund programs. That ought to make things better. --R Luther wrote: > Ahh, but look at Exxon. > earnings statements for 2005, 2006, 2007... > http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=XOM&annual > > 2005 total revenue of $370,680,000,000 > 2005 net income of $36,130,000,000 > Profit 9.74695% > > 2006 total revenue of $377,635,000,000 > 2006 net income of $39,500,000,000 > profit 10.4598% > > 2007 total revenue of $404,552,000,000 > 2007 net income of $40,160,000,000 > profit 10.0383% > > and a few more years > 2004 8.4990% > from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf > > 2003 9.0739% > from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf > > 2002 5.7029% > from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf > > As you can see2006 and 2007 were better than $0.90 on the dollar operating > ratio > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dirt cheap MOG
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 8:24 PM, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmmm, wonder what you tow a project MOG home with? ;-) > > Ed Freightliner. EdB -- "I'm a Night Elf Mohawk!" - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
Tom Hargrave wrote: > > Nationalize oil companies? > > Then why not nationalize healthcare, convenience stores, home mortgages, > banking, grocery stores, Wal-Mart, GE, Microsoft? Maybe Fidel would help us out with that. I hear he's unemployed now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
Excellent plan. That would drive the economy to new heights of success, and fund lots of programs for hope and change. --R Tom Hargrave wrote: > Nationalize oil companies? > > Then why not nationalize healthcare, convenience stores, home mortgages, > banking, grocery stores, Wal-Mart, GE, Microsoft? > > And while you are at it, why not just invite the Federal Government into > 100% of our lives?? > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Rich Thomas > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:37 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes > > Oil companies should be nationalized and run by the federal government, > with all excess income going to fund programs. That ought to make > things better. > > --R > > Luther wrote: > >> Ahh, but look at Exxon. >> earnings statements for 2005, 2006, 2007... >> http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=XOM&annual >> >> 2005 total revenue of $370,680,000,000 >> 2005 net income of $36,130,000,000 >> Profit 9.74695% >> >> 2006 total revenue of $377,635,000,000 >> 2006 net income of $39,500,000,000 >> profit 10.4598% >> >> 2007 total revenue of $404,552,000,000 >> 2007 net income of $40,160,000,000 >> profit 10.0383% >> >> and a few more years >> 2004 8.4990% >> from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf >> >> 2003 9.0739% >> from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf >> >> 2002 5.7029% >> from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf >> >> As you can see2006 and 2007 were better than $0.90 on the dollar >> > operating > >> ratio >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 > 11:31 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 > 11:31 AM > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] a sighting
Working the Primary lane at the Oroville, WA/Osoyoos, BC border crossing, a couple came through in a GL320 CDI. I wasn't aware that the G series was availavble with the CDi. No evidence of a Bluetech emblem. -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sighting
Yep, you can buy those at your friendly local MB dealer, if you got a deep pocket. --R Rory wrote: > Working the Primary lane at the Oroville, WA/Osoyoos, BC border > crossing, a couple came through in a GL320 CDI. I wasn't aware that > the G series was availavble with the CDi. No evidence of a Bluetech > emblem. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
You are starting to sound like the socialis... oh wait, I mean, democratic party. Rich Thomas wrote: > Oil companies should be nationalized and run by the federal government, > with all excess income going to fund programs. That ought to make > things better. > > --R > > Luther wrote: >> Ahh, but look at Exxon. >> earnings statements for 2005, 2006, 2007... >> http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=XOM&annual >> >> 2005 total revenue of $370,680,000,000 >> 2005 net income of $36,130,000,000 >> Profit 9.74695% >> >> 2006 total revenue of $377,635,000,000 >> 2006 net income of $39,500,000,000 >> profit 10.4598% >> >> 2007 total revenue of $404,552,000,000 >> 2007 net income of $40,160,000,000 >> profit 10.0383% >> >> and a few more years >> 2004 8.4990% >> from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf >> >> 2003 9.0739% >> from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf >> >> 2002 5.7029% >> from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf >> >> As you can see2006 and 2007 were better than $0.90 on the dollar >> operating >> ratio >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a sighting
Yep, they are, I saw one the other day Rory wrote: > Working the Primary lane at the Oroville, WA/Osoyoos, BC border > crossing, a couple came through in a GL320 CDI. I wasn't aware that > the G series was availavble with the CDi. No evidence of a Bluetech > emblem. > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 380SL Questions/Issues
Kaleb - Gee that sounds really simple butdidn't you forget to mention that the engine just happens to derive its' support by resting on the subframe. :^) Of course that is really not that big of a deal as you just have to find some way of supporting the engine while the subframe is removed. Not sure I'd be wanting to work under an engine help up by a cherrypicker. Better a chainfall or come-along to something substantial overhead. Barry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 7:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 380SL Questions/Issues Probably easier to drop the subframe, 4 bolts and its out ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 380SL Questions/Issues
Its a given you have to support the engine from above if dropping the subframe out the bottom Barry Stark wrote: > Kaleb - > Gee that sounds really simple butdidn't you forget to mention that the > engine just happens to derive its' support by resting on the subframe. :^) > Of course that is really not that big of a deal as you just have to find > some way of supporting the engine while the subframe is removed. Not sure > I'd be wanting to work under an engine help up by a cherrypicker. Better a > chainfall or come-along to something substantial overhead. > > Barry > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 7:31 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 380SL Questions/Issues > > > Probably easier to drop the subframe, 4 bolts and its out > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gil Racing
Thanks, I did already but got nothing back. The only e-mail addy I had was the @gilracing from the storefront, anyone got a 'real' one? TKS Steve on 4/20/08 11:11, tom savage at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Steve MacSween wrote: >> Anyone know if Alvaro Gil is still actively selling the wheel adaptor kits? > > Jamie says he's got a real job now and has moved on, but may still have > some left. Email and see, I guess. > > Tom > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
you wrote << If I had any brains, I would have put my sell order in at $920 and made $8 in an hour instead of $0.40 in 11 seconds. >> Assuming you knew it would rise when you had to place the order - and then it actually *did* rise. ;-) I can see how someone might buy your sale at a small qty and price - but to drive the price of a barrel of oil up by $5 or $10 takes more than people placing orders at that price - unless they have unlimited funds of course. And true, people in OPEC have such deep pockets but wht buy their own oil? Hmm.. maybe G Soros is buying it? Trying to lose all that money he made in the past ? Or maybe he's ust getting lucky and people keep buying his high priced sell orders? Seems like a plot in a novel - ;-) Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes > > > Mitch Haley wrote: >> I bid $912 for a single June ZG (100oz gold), and watched the published >> bid >> rise from $911.80 to $912 and then a seller quickly hit my bid and the >> quoted >> bid dropped to 911.70 or something. By the time I could get a sell order >> entered, the bid was 911.30 and the offer was 911.60, so I offered to >> sell >> at 911.40 and sold it almost instantly. > > Boy did I mess up when I wrote that out. Bought at 912, bid instantly > dropped to 911.7 as soon as my bid was knocked out. By the time I could > get a sell order opened up in my software, it had risen to 912.3 bid, > 912.6 ask. I then put in an offer to sell at 912.4 and instantly sold > for a $0.40 profit. If I had any brains, I would have put my sell order > in at $920 and made $8 in an hour instead of $0.40 in 11 seconds. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
That kind of 5 year plan/s worked really well in USSR - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes > Excellent plan. That would drive the economy to new heights of success, > and fund lots of programs for hope and change. > > --R > > Tom Hargrave wrote: >> Nationalize oil companies? >> >> Then why not nationalize healthcare, convenience stores, home mortgages, >> banking, grocery stores, Wal-Mart, GE, Microsoft? >> >> And while you are at it, why not just invite the Federal Government into >> 100% of our lives?? >> >> Thanks, >> Tom Hargrave >> www.kegkits.com >> 256-656-1924 >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Rich Thomas >> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:37 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes >> >> Oil companies should be nationalized and run by the federal government, >> with all excess income going to fund programs. That ought to make >> things better. >> >> --R >> >> Luther wrote: >> >>> Ahh, but look at Exxon. >>> earnings statements for 2005, 2006, 2007... >>> http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=XOM&annual >>> >>> 2005 total revenue of $370,680,000,000 >>> 2005 net income of $36,130,000,000 >>> Profit 9.74695% >>> >>> 2006 total revenue of $377,635,000,000 >>> 2006 net income of $39,500,000,000 >>> profit 10.4598% >>> >>> 2007 total revenue of $404,552,000,000 >>> 2007 net income of $40,160,000,000 >>> profit 10.0383% >>> >>> and a few more years >>> 2004 8.4990% >>> from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf >>> >>> 2003 9.0739% >>> from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf >>> >>> 2002 5.7029% >>> from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf >>> >>> As you can see2006 and 2007 were better than $0.90 on the dollar >>> >> operating >> >>> ratio >>> >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: >> 4/19/2008 >> 11:31 AM >> >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: >> 4/19/2008 >> 11:31 AM >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
But they had run out of hope and were not interested in change. My Plan includes nationalization of the evil oil companies (and any other company that makes too much profit at the expense of the workers and middle class and those left behind, e.g., food companies), programs, hope, and change. I'll throw in some dialog and conversation too as an added bonus. --R LarryT wrote: > That kind of 5 year plan/s worked really well in USSR - > > Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > 800-583-8601 > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 2:28 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes > > > >> Excellent plan. That would drive the economy to new heights of success, >> and fund lots of programs for hope and change. >> >> --R >> >> Tom Hargrave wrote: >> >>> Nationalize oil companies? >>> >>> Then why not nationalize healthcare, convenience stores, home mortgages, >>> banking, grocery stores, Wal-Mart, GE, Microsoft? >>> >>> And while you are at it, why not just invite the Federal Government into >>> 100% of our lives?? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Tom Hargrave >>> www.kegkits.com >>> 256-656-1924 >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> On Behalf Of Rich Thomas >>> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:37 PM >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes >>> >>> Oil companies should be nationalized and run by the federal government, >>> with all excess income going to fund programs. That ought to make >>> things better. >>> >>> --R >>> >>> Luther wrote: >>> >>> Ahh, but look at Exxon. earnings statements for 2005, 2006, 2007... http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=XOM&annual 2005 total revenue of $370,680,000,000 2005 net income of $36,130,000,000 Profit 9.74695% 2006 total revenue of $377,635,000,000 2006 net income of $39,500,000,000 profit 10.4598% 2007 total revenue of $404,552,000,000 2007 net income of $40,160,000,000 profit 10.0383% and a few more years 2004 8.4990% from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf 2003 9.0739% from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf 2002 5.7029% from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf As you can see2006 and 2007 were better than $0.90 on the dollar >>> operating >>> >>> ratio >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: >>> 4/19/2008 >>> 11:31 AM >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: >>> 4/19/2008 >>> 11:31 AM >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Antique 58 Mercedes Westfalia Camper, needs full restoration. CHEAP - $1100 (dover nh)
Dwight. I could justify the Blue 190DT as a replacement for the bent one, and I thank you for that. If, however, you want me to silently and suddenly go from a baritone to a soprano keep on making such suggestions! Yjough it would make an interesting Franken-Benz, wouldn't it? Fred Moir Lynn MA One a deez Two a doze and one uv dem udda tings. At 09:29 PM 4/19/2008, you wrote: >Fred, >This looks like a good project for you-drop that spare 2.5DT in it and >really have something. (Of course shag carpets, etc.) >Dwight > >Dwight E. Giles, Jr. >1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. >1979 240D- auto -250K + miles >1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. >Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 380SL Questions/Issues
I think the manual shows the engine being supported by a beam with legs resting on the frame while the subframe is dropped. I was able to R&R the oil pan on the SDL by unbolting the engine mounts, lifting the engine to the max with the cherrypicker (it would only fall as far as the mounts). Don't know if you could do that in a 107 though. On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Its a given you have to support the engine from above if dropping the > subframe out the bottom > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Plastic bumper repair
The rear bumper on my 140 has taken a slight beating from a careless parallel parker and I've got a couple of small gouges to fill. Anyone have any recommendations as to a good filler that won't lose its pliability? Thanks, Tom I miss the hondakillers on the old 123 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Smart Car sighting north of Houston....
Well, gents, the Smart Car has arrived here in the far North burbs of Houston. Saw one yesterday parked in the neighborhood. One of the grandkids said "That's gotta be the smallest car in the world", to which the youngest replied, "No, Mr. Bean's car is smaller". They had all seen the Smart on the Discovery Channel, so they knew what it was. They were amazed when I told them it was made by MercedesStill not sure I'd want to drive one on a Houston freeway Royce Benzless, but may get back into a diesel if my son-in-law dumps his F250. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
So, who decides what is too much profit? You? Or worse, the Government??? Why would I want someone as powerful and uncaring as the IRS deciding how much of my cashflow is "profit", deciding how much is excess and then deciding where it should go? What motivation would I have to grow a business under these conditions?? Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 4/20/08 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes But they had run out of hope and were not interested in change. My Plan includes nationalization of the evil oil companies (and any other company that makes too much profit at the expense of the workers and middle class and those left behind, e.g., food companies), programs, hope, and change. I'll throw in some dialog and conversation too as an added bonus. --R LarryT wrote: > That kind of 5 year plan/s worked really well in USSR - > > Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > 800-583-8601 > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 2:28 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes > > > >> Excellent plan. That would drive the economy to new heights of success, >> and fund lots of programs for hope and change. >> >> --R >> >> Tom Hargrave wrote: >> >>> Nationalize oil companies? >>> >>> Then why not nationalize healthcare, convenience stores, home mortgages, >>> banking, grocery stores, Wal-Mart, GE, Microsoft? >>> >>> And while you are at it, why not just invite the Federal Government into >>> 100% of our lives?? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Tom Hargrave >>> www.kegkits.com >>> 256-656-1924 >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> On Behalf Of Rich Thomas >>> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:37 PM >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes >>> >>> Oil companies should be nationalized and run by the federal government, >>> with all excess income going to fund programs. That ought to make >>> things better. >>> >>> --R >>> >>> Luther wrote: >>> >>> Ahh, but look at Exxon. earnings statements for 2005, 2006, 2007... http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=XOM&annual 2005 total revenue of $370,680,000,000 2005 net income of $36,130,000,000 Profit 9.74695% 2006 total revenue of $377,635,000,000 2006 net income of $39,500,000,000 profit 10.4598% 2007 total revenue of $404,552,000,000 2007 net income of $40,160,000,000 profit 10.0383% and a few more years 2004 8.4990% from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf 2003 9.0739% from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf 2002 5.7029% from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf As you can see2006 and 2007 were better than $0.90 on the dollar >>> operating >>> >>> ratio >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: >>> 4/19/2008 >>> 11:31 AM >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: >>> 4/19/2008 >>> 11:31 AM >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/merced
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
Sure, just like the USSR and China. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 4/20/08 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes Excellent plan. That would drive the economy to new heights of success, and fund lots of programs for hope and change. --R Tom Hargrave wrote: > Nationalize oil companies? > > Then why not nationalize healthcare, convenience stores, home mortgages, > banking, grocery stores, Wal-Mart, GE, Microsoft? > > And while you are at it, why not just invite the Federal Government into > 100% of our lives?? > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Rich Thomas > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:37 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes > > Oil companies should be nationalized and run by the federal government, > with all excess income going to fund programs. That ought to make > things better. > > --R > > Luther wrote: > >> Ahh, but look at Exxon. >> earnings statements for 2005, 2006, 2007... >> http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=XOM&annual >> >> 2005 total revenue of $370,680,000,000 >> 2005 net income of $36,130,000,000 >> Profit 9.74695% >> >> 2006 total revenue of $377,635,000,000 >> 2006 net income of $39,500,000,000 >> profit 10.4598% >> >> 2007 total revenue of $404,552,000,000 >> 2007 net income of $40,160,000,000 >> profit 10.0383% >> >> and a few more years >> 2004 8.4990% >> from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf >> >> 2003 9.0739% >> from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf >> >> 2002 5.7029% >> from http://www.exxonmobil.com/corporate/files/corporate/AR_2004.pdf >> >> As you can see2006 and 2007 were better than $0.90 on the dollar >> > operating > >> ratio >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 > 11:31 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 > 11:31 AM > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
> > From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > Oil companies should be nationalized and run by the federal government, > > with all excess income going to fund programs. That ought to make > > things better. > > > > --R > > > > Rich > > That's been done in several countries. Mexico comes to mind. Lots of > oil available, but after years of quasi-governmental control they've > been importing- especially in refined fuels. > > Venezuela? Take a look at their recent production trends. Russia has > also been active in re-appropriating oil fields, and they've also seen > production stagnate with their former "partners" gone. > > Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 29, Issue 141
> > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:37:28 -0500 > From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Oil companies should be nationalized and run by the federal government, > with all excess income going to fund programs. That ought to make > things better. > > --R > Rich That's been done in several countries. Mexico comes to mind. Lots of oil available, but after years of quasi-governmental control they've been importing- especially in refined fuels. Venezuela? Take a look at their recent production trends. Russia has also been active in re-appropriating oil fields, and they've also seen production stagnate with their former "partners" gone. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 87 300SDL loose alternator pulley
All of a sudden, the serpentine belt wants to jump track and the Alternator Pulley is loose again. I tighten it back down and it loosens again. WIS says: "Due to a setting condition of the pulley mounting components, the alternator pulley may become loose. Replace Alternator. Retightening a loose alternator pulley will not insure a permanent fix." Anyone know what's going on? Seems a shame to replace an otherwise good alternator. Thanks -Dave Walton On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 5:09 PM, tom savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The rear bumper on my 140 has taken a slight beating from a careless > parallel parker and I've got a couple of small gouges to fill. Anyone > have any recommendations as to a good filler that won't lose its pliability? > > Thanks, > Tom > I miss the hondakillers on the old 123 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL loose alternator pulley
Loc-Tite? Dan --- dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All of a sudden, the serpentine belt wants to jump > track and the > Alternator Pulley is loose again. I tighten it back > down and it > loosens again. WIS says: "Due to a setting condition > of the pulley > mounting components, the alternator pulley may > become loose. Replace > Alternator. Retightening a loose alternator pulley > will not insure a > permanent fix." > > Anyone know what's going on? Seems a shame to > replace an otherwise > good alternator. > > Thanks Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
I am thinking Rich is funnin' with us - ;-) He obviously knows how absurd such a suggestion is and wants to see who will rise to the bait -- Jeez, *everybody* knows how aburd such a suggestion is. Except Castro of course. Besides, ~10% seems pretty low - don't forget, we could get them to invest all that profit in new refineries and drilling rigs if we'd only open some domestic oil fields up to exploration. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: "Tony Wirtel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes >> > From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes >> > To: Mercedes Discussion List >> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> > >> > Oil companies should be nationalized and run by the federal >> government, >> > with all excess income going to fund programs. That ought to make >> > things better. >> > >> > --R >> > >> >> Rich >> >> That's been done in several countries. Mexico comes to mind. Lots of >> oil available, but after years of quasi-governmental control they've >> been importing- especially in refined fuels. >> >> Venezuela? Take a look at their recent production trends. Russia has >> also been active in re-appropriating oil fields, and they've also seen >> production stagnate with their former "partners" gone. >> >> Tony Wirtel > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart Car sighting north of Houston....
My son just arrived back in town from his internship in Houston - he just showed us a picture he took of a Smart Cabriolet in Austin --- On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Royce Engler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, gents, the Smart Car has arrived here in the far North burbs of > Houston. Saw one yesterday parked in the neighborhood. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plastic bumper repair
Hi Tom, I've bought a lot of stuff from this company - and this filler seems to meet your requirements -- https://www.autobodytoolmart.com/p-10288-12721.aspx Good luck - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: "tom savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 5:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] Plastic bumper repair > The rear bumper on my 140 has taken a slight beating from a careless > parallel parker and I've got a couple of small gouges to fill. Anyone > have any recommendations as to a good filler that won't lose its > pliability? > > Thanks, > Tom > I miss the hondakillers on the old 123 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL loose alternator pulley
Perhaps the front bearing is now toast, or the shaft is bent? Does sound strange! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
You never know. I used to work with a card carrying Communist. He would spout off "facts" about his perfect 32 hour work week and how unfair Capitalism was to the "working class". One day I got fed up and I stated "It must be nice to dream about the perfect system while working in a capitalistic society". He asked "what do you mean". I responded with "Here you are, enjoying the proceeds of the greatest economy in the world. You drive the car you chose to drive. You wear the close you chose to wear. You get to watch football on a huge 31" color television (this was a while ago). You eat the food you want to eat. And you have the freedom to travel anywhere in this country. And you do these things with no restrictions other than your own finances, which by the way, are ultimately your responsibility. You get to do all of this while dreaming of the perfect Communist system which has proven over & over again to not be able to provide the standard of living you are used to." He glared at me, walked away and as far as I know still keeps his "Communist dreams" to himself. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 5:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes I am thinking Rich is funnin' with us - ;-) He obviously knows how absurd such a suggestion is and wants to see who will rise to the bait -- Jeez, *everybody* knows how aburd such a suggestion is. Except Castro of course. Besides, ~10% seems pretty low - don't forget, we could get them to invest all that profit in new refineries and drilling rigs if we'd only open some domestic oil fields up to exploration. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: "Tony Wirtel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes >> > From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes >> > To: Mercedes Discussion List >> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> > >> > Oil companies should be nationalized and run by the federal >> government, >> > with all excess income going to fund programs. That ought to make >> > things better. >> > >> > --R >> > >> >> Rich >> >> That's been done in several countries. Mexico comes to mind. Lots of >> oil available, but after years of quasi-governmental control they've >> been importing- especially in refined fuels. >> >> Venezuela? Take a look at their recent production trends. Russia has >> also been active in re-appropriating oil fields, and they've also seen >> production stagnate with their former "partners" gone. >> >> Tony Wirtel > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL loose alternator pulley
It's been a while since I had mine off but isn't the pulley keyed? If it is & the nut is properly tightened then it can't loosen unless the threads on the shaft are under size or the threads on the nut are over size. If this is the case then it's time for a new alternator. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 5:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL loose alternator pulley Perhaps the front bearing is now toast, or the shaft is bent? Does sound strange! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL loose alternator pulley
Put a new lock washer under the nut and tighten with an impact wrench. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL loose alternator pulley
I took it apart - the key is missing. A new key, lock-tite and an impact wrench might do it. Will check to see if I have big lock washers too. Thanks -Dave Walton On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's been a while since I had mine off but isn't the pulley keyed? If it is > & the nut is properly tightened then it can't loosen unless the threads on > the shaft are under size or the threads on the nut are over size. > > If this is the case then it's time for a new alternator. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of OK Don > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 5:23 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL loose alternator pulley > > Perhaps the front bearing is now toast, or the shaft is bent? Does > sound strange! > > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 > 11:31 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 > 11:31 AM > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 87 300SDL loose alternator pulley
Nearly 4 yrs ago, a few days after getting my showroom-appearing 87 300D (82 kmi), my indie installed a new serp belt. Next day, alt. pulley came off; got AAA tow 'bout 5 miles home. Coupla days later, stealer hauled car to stealer garage and installed new alt. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
F that! They need to be involved in less than 5% of my life. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Nationalize oil companies? > > Then why not nationalize healthcare, convenience stores, home mortgages, > banking, grocery stores, Wal-Mart, GE, Microsoft? > > And while you are at it, why not just invite the Federal Government into > 100% of our lives?? > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today
So you don't believe in the "free market" system either Interesting. z Quoting "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > yep > > Luther wrote: >> But wouldn't that go against "free market"? >> >> z >> >> Quoting "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> That was 3.93 I think. Its 3.88 and up around here. Mostly up. >>> >>> I have a theory though about these stupid high diesel prices. Seems to >>> me like they are artificially holding the price of gas down, and >>> inflating the price of diesel to make their profit. >>> >> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today
sure I do Luther wrote: > So you don't believe in the "free market" system either Interesting. > > z > > > Quoting "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> yep >> >> Luther wrote: >>> But wouldn't that go against "free market"? >>> >>> z >>> >>> Quoting "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> That was 3.93 I think. Its 3.88 and up around here. Mostly up. I have a theory though about these stupid high diesel prices. Seems to me like they are artificially holding the price of gas down, and inflating the price of diesel to make their profit. >>> > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart Car sighting north of Houston....
Amazed that you where wrong? Mercedes does not build cars, Daimler does and the smart is build in France by a separate company. Just a technicality but. Hendrik being a smart ass Royce Engler wrote: > Well, gents, the Smart Car has arrived here in the far North burbs of > Houston. Saw one yesterday parked in the neighborhood. One of the > grandkids said "That's gotta be the smallest car in the world", to which the > youngest replied, "No, Mr. Bean's car is smaller". They had all seen the > Smart on the Discovery Channel, so they knew what it was. > > They were amazed when I told them it was made by MercedesStill not sure > I'd want to drive one on a Houston freeway > > Royce > Benzless, but may get back into a diesel if my son-in-law dumps his F250. > > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today
There is no such thing as a" free market" -- all markets are controlled by the major players. The only real question is who controls them. Also, profit drives markets, not rational behavior.. Read "The New Industrial State" by John Kenneth Galbraith. Interestingly, it was written more than 30 years ago, more true today than then. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I'm from the government and I'm here to........
<> Oh, yes, absolutely. RLE ** Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today
Profit is a form of rational behavior. And a free market based on profit, that also has multiple players is the best of all worlds. Take wide screen, flat panel color TVs for example. The "free market", the chase for profit and the American willingness to chase down the best deal keeps bringing the price of this technology down to the point where a set that cost $4000 - $5000 4 years ago now costs less than $1000. And during the same time frame, picture quality has improved immensely. Gas and diesel are a unique situation. The refineries are running at capacity. Because of this, all the major players are really in a "no compete" situation. Get the refineries to the point where they are at about 80% production and then the same competitive forces that affect wide screen, flat panel color TVs will affect the price of gas. This is exactly what happened with Harley Davidson. My 92 Dresser was worth exactly what it cost new - $17,500, even 10 years later. This is because Harley-Davidson had every new bike sold before it was manufactured - they could not keep up with demand. Then Harley-Davidson built a new manufacturing facility and production caught up with demand. More recently the Japanese cruisers have gotten nicer and have made inroads into the market. The result is that Harley-Davidson announced its first serious price reduction since the early 70s and my 92 dresser value has dropped down to about $12,500. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today There is no such thing as a" free market" -- all markets are controlled by the major players. The only real question is who controls them. Also, profit drives markets, not rational behavior.. Read "The New Industrial State" by John Kenneth Galbraith. Interestingly, it was written more than 30 years ago, more true today than then. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today
It's ok, Kaleb's living in his own fantasy world. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > There is no such thing as a" free market" -- all markets are > controlled by the major players. The only real question is who > controls them. Also, profit drives markets, not rational behavior.. > > Read "The New Industrial State" by John Kenneth Galbraith. > Interestingly, it was written more than 30 years ago, more true today > than then. > > Peter > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today
Profit is all fine and good, but it's not necessarily rational or the best choice. People will, after all, put profit ahead of anything else. Profit is driven by greed, after all, and greed is one of the seven deadly sins for a reason -- the industrialists in Germany couldn't keep their pants on when Hitler said "slave labor" Read up on the Great Depression for a primer. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Wagon In Wichita
Kaleb wrote: "yea I saw that, thought about it myself" The prospect of another blown head gasket is what gives me pause. I will probably go drive it this week. I got an email from the seller saying that the only leaks he can see are an oil leak at the valve cover gasket. I don't have any experience with the wagons, but I would think they would have the same benefits/problems that the 124 sedan has (with the exception of the hydraulic rear suspension. Donald H. Snook 1997 Ford Explorer For Sale ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo
My mechanic has a '92 300SD just shy of 100K miles. I kinda fell for it 'cause it's pretty immaculate. There's a lot of equipment (to go wrong?) that my 300s don't have, like power door and trunk latches, side mirrors that fold away electrically, IR keyless locks, etc. on 4/19/08 21:40 Uhr, Dwight E. Giles, Jr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ditto to what Kaleb said. I love mine. But maybe in the NE would sell for > more than 8K. -I know of one with 87K that recently sold on auto trader in > CT for $14,500. I have been tempted to try to sell mine for $10-12K, but > love it too much. Only beef-(other than AC evaporator leaks, etc,) I am not > that tall 5'10" but can't get seat back far enough to straighten out my > right knee when I drive on long trips.. I have tried all adjustments-but my > 123's are more comfortable in front seats in that regard, even though they > are manually adjusted. I see NO downside in buying this model. > Dwight > > Dwight E. Giles, Jr. > 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. > 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles > 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. > Wickford, RI > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:42 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo > > There are many pros, no cons I can think of. They are probably the best > cars MB ever made. Mine gets 33mpg, has plenty of power, drives very > nice, no problems. If it really has 45k on it I would figure it would > sell for 8k plus. > > Tom Harruff wrote: >> Listers >> >> I have found a 1992 300 D (2.5 Turbo) with 45,000 miles indicated in the > ad. >> >> Before I call and go to look at the vehicle, what are the listers > experiences with this vehicle. Pluses and minuses? I recall lots of past > discussions about the 2.5 but have not really followed them. >> >> Price (other than Kaleb's standard $500) that it should sell for? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Tom Harruff >> Naples, FL >> 1985 300Dt (Diesel Dolly) >> 1994 C280 (Wife's Car) >> 2000 Sedan Deville (Road Car) >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today
In the electronics industry, production cost is THE major player in selling price. My uncle works for a division of HP in R&D/Sales and his saying is that the first new item off the assembly line will cost $500,000 and each one thereafter will cost $0.05. Comparing the electronics industry to the oil industry is like comparing apples to steel mining. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Profit is a form of rational behavior. And a free market based on profit, > that also has multiple players is the best of all worlds. > > Take wide screen, flat panel color TVs for example. The "free market", the > chase for profit and the American willingness to chase down the best deal > keeps bringing the price of this technology down to the point where a set > that cost $4000 - $5000 4 years ago now costs less than $1000. And during > the same time frame, picture quality has improved immensely. > > Gas and diesel are a unique situation. The refineries are running at > capacity. Because of this, all the major players are really in a "no > compete" situation. Get the refineries to the point where they are at about > 80% production and then the same competitive forces that affect wide screen, > flat panel color TVs will affect the price of gas. > > This is exactly what happened with Harley Davidson. My 92 Dresser was worth > exactly what it cost new - $17,500, even 10 years later. This is because > Harley-Davidson had every new bike sold before it was manufactured - they > could not keep up with demand. Then Harley-Davidson built a new > manufacturing facility and production caught up with demand. More recently > the Japanese cruisers have gotten nicer and have made inroads into the > market. The result is that Harley-Davidson announced its first serious price > reduction since the early 70s and my 92 dresser value has dropped down to > about $12,500. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today
I did not say that competition would make huge changes in the cost of gasoline. But competition will cause the manufacturing cost to drop some because there is none between the refineries today. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today In the electronics industry, production cost is THE major player in selling price. My uncle works for a division of HP in R&D/Sales and his saying is that the first new item off the assembly line will cost $500,000 and each one thereafter will cost $0.05. Comparing the electronics industry to the oil industry is like comparing apples to steel mining. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Profit is a form of rational behavior. And a free market based on profit, > that also has multiple players is the best of all worlds. > > Take wide screen, flat panel color TVs for example. The "free market", the > chase for profit and the American willingness to chase down the best deal > keeps bringing the price of this technology down to the point where a set > that cost $4000 - $5000 4 years ago now costs less than $1000. And during > the same time frame, picture quality has improved immensely. > > Gas and diesel are a unique situation. The refineries are running at > capacity. Because of this, all the major players are really in a "no > compete" situation. Get the refineries to the point where they are at about > 80% production and then the same competitive forces that affect wide screen, > flat panel color TVs will affect the price of gas. > > This is exactly what happened with Harley Davidson. My 92 Dresser was worth > exactly what it cost new - $17,500, even 10 years later. This is because > Harley-Davidson had every new bike sold before it was manufactured - they > could not keep up with demand. Then Harley-Davidson built a new > manufacturing facility and production caught up with demand. More recently > the Japanese cruisers have gotten nicer and have made inroads into the > market. The result is that Harley-Davidson announced its first serious price > reduction since the early 70s and my 92 dresser value has dropped down to > about $12,500. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 11:31 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo
If you mean a W140 300SD instead of the subject W124, then there are 3 words to consider: "rod ben der". John On 4/20/08, Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My mechanic has a '92 300SD just shy of 100K miles. I kinda fell for it > 'cause it's pretty immaculate. There's a lot of equipment (to go wrong?) > that my 300s don't have, like power door and trunk latches, side mirrors > that fold away electrically, IR keyless locks, etc. > > on 4/19/08 21:40 Uhr, Dwight E. Giles, Jr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Ditto to what Kaleb said. I love mine. But maybe in the NE would sell for > > more than 8K. -I know of one with 87K that recently sold on auto trader in > > CT for $14,500. I have been tempted to try to sell mine for $10-12K, but > > love it too much. Only beef-(other than AC evaporator leaks, etc,) I am not > > that tall 5'10" but can't get seat back far enough to straighten out my > > right knee when I drive on long trips.. I have tried all adjustments-but my > > 123's are more comfortable in front seats in that regard, even though they > > are manually adjusted. I see NO downside in buying this model. > > Dwight > > > > Dwight E. Giles, Jr. > > 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. > > 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles > > 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. > > Wickford, RI > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:42 AM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo > > > > There are many pros, no cons I can think of. They are probably the best > > cars MB ever made. Mine gets 33mpg, has plenty of power, drives very > > nice, no problems. If it really has 45k on it I would figure it would > > sell for 8k plus. > > > > Tom Harruff wrote: > >> Listers > >> > >> I have found a 1992 300 D (2.5 Turbo) with 45,000 miles indicated in the > > ad. > >> > >> Before I call and go to look at the vehicle, what are the listers > > experiences with this vehicle. Pluses and minuses? I recall lots of past > > discussions about the 2.5 but have not really followed them. > >> > >> Price (other than Kaleb's standard $500) that it should sell for? > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> Tom Harruff > >> Naples, FL > >> 1985 300Dt (Diesel Dolly) > >> 1994 C280 (Wife's Car) > >> 2000 Sedan Deville (Road Car) > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Wagon In Wichita
let me know how it turns out if you dont want it Donald Snook wrote: > Kaleb wrote: "yea I saw that, thought about it myself" > > The prospect of another blown head gasket is what gives me pause. I will > probably go drive it this week. I got an email from the seller saying that > the only leaks he can see are an oil leak at the valve cover gasket. I don't > have any experience with the wagons, but I would think they would have the > same benefits/problems that the 124 sedan has (with the exception of the > hydraulic rear suspension. > > Donald H. Snook > 1997 Ford Explorer For Sale > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo
When mine bends the rods, which it could have, who knows, I plan on either dropping in the 3.5 I have sitting in the garage, or dropping a 606 turbo in it. John Freer wrote: > If you mean a W140 300SD instead of the subject W124, then there are 3 > words to consider: "rod ben der". > > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gil Racing
Steve MacSween wrote: > Thanks, I did already but got nothing back. The only e-mail addy I had was > the @gilracing from the storefront, anyone got a 'real' one? I just talked to Jaime. Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plastic bumper repair
LarryT wrote: > Hi Tom, > I've bought a lot of stuff from this company - and this filler seems to > meet your requirements -- > https://www.autobodytoolmart.com/p-10288-12721.aspx Thanks Larry. I'll give that a shot. Kevlar. Cool! Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 380SL Questions/Issues
Nobody has yet attacked the premise of needing a pan gasket. I will heartily attack that premise. It MAY need a new front crank seal. It probably is seeping/weeping at the rear main rope seal. They do that. it is normal. IF in fact the pan has not been removed since the car was built, then it needs nothing. If some bozo took the pan off for some reason, then I'd guess the bolts may be loose, causing some seepage. I HAVE seen that before. There is NO reason other than abuse that an MB engine should need a pan pulled at only 100k miles. THERE IS NO OIL PRESSURE ON THE OIL PAN GASKET!!! OUR 85 380SL is the only one I have that DOES NOT leak oil. LOOK ELSEWHERE if it is leaking oil, like some bozo ruining the oil filter mounting. Of course, it is still the pup of the fleet, with only 158k or so. Loren Lotsa MBs, some to be for sale soon! At 10:22 PM 4/18/2008, you wrote: >The wife has a work bud who just was willed an '85 380SL 103K miles. The bud >told her that it was running rough so she took it to our local rip-off loser >shop. Those shysters told her she needed an oil pan gasket ($1800 quote) >and, since it is running rich she needed a new fuel injection system ($2800 >quote). The bud then told wifey she had heard I have a clue about Mercedes' >and wondered if she could run this by me to ask if it was out of line. After >my wife scolded her for taking her car to that shop she told her that it's >not so much my knowledge that will help her but it will be the combined >knowledge of "all those guys he talks to on line. In the world of Mercedes, >Bob is riding on the short bus and his online pals are driving the Prevost." >Nice. > >Anyway, what is the deal with this car? To replace an oil pan gasket can't >possibly cost that much. And what, historically, causes those to run rich? >Make me smart so I can help this nice lady out. > > > >Bob R > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today
A friend sent this link: http://autos.msn.com/everyday/gasstations.aspx?zip=&s%20rc=Netx Interesting. Enter your zip code and it gives a daily update on fuel prices at local stations. 4/20/08 22:13 Uhr, Tom Hargrave at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I did not say that competition would make huge changes in the cost of > gasoline. But competition will cause the manufacturing cost to drop some > because there is none between the refineries today. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Luther > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:04 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today > > In the electronics industry, production cost is THE major player in selling > price. My uncle works for a division of HP in R&D/Sales and his saying > is that > the first new item off the assembly line will cost $500,000 and each one > thereafter will cost $0.05. Comparing the electronics industry to the oil > industry is like comparing apples to steel mining. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart Car sighting north of Houston....
On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Royce Engler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, gents, the Smart Car has arrived here in the far North burbs of > Drove by the new Smart dealership in Indianapolis yesterday. Didn't have time to stop for a brochure. EdB -- "I'm a Night Elf Mohawk!" - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo
I thought the 126 was the "rod bender?" (through 1991?) The one mechanic has is a 140 (SD). ooops.. so sorry, ya'll were talking about the 2.5 124... my bad. 4/20/08 22:19 Uhr, John Freer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If you mean a W140 300SD instead of the subject W124, then there are 3 > words to consider: "rod ben der". > > John > On 4/20/08, Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> My mechanic has a '92 300SD just shy of 100K miles. I kinda fell for it >> 'cause it's pretty immaculate. There's a lot of equipment (to go wrong?) >> that my 300s don't have, like power door and trunk latches, side mirrors >> that fold away electrically, IR keyless locks, etc. >> >> on 4/19/08 21:40 Uhr, Dwight E. Giles, Jr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> Ditto to what Kaleb said. I love mine. But maybe in the NE would sell for >>> more than 8K. -I know of one with 87K that recently sold on auto trader in >>> CT for $14,500. I have been tempted to try to sell mine for $10-12K, but >>> love it too much. Only beef-(other than AC evaporator leaks, etc,) I am not >>> that tall 5'10" but can't get seat back far enough to straighten out my >>> right knee when I drive on long trips.. I have tried all adjustments-but my >>> 123's are more comfortable in front seats in that regard, even though they >>> are manually adjusted. I see NO downside in buying this model. >>> Dwight >>> >>> Dwight E. Giles, Jr. >>> 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. >>> 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles >>> 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. >>> Wickford, RI >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin >>> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:42 AM >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo >>> >>> There are many pros, no cons I can think of. They are probably the best >>> cars MB ever made. Mine gets 33mpg, has plenty of power, drives very >>> nice, no problems. If it really has 45k on it I would figure it would >>> sell for 8k plus. >>> >>> Tom Harruff wrote: Listers I have found a 1992 300 D (2.5 Turbo) with 45,000 miles indicated in the >>> ad. Before I call and go to look at the vehicle, what are the listers >>> experiences with this vehicle. Pluses and minuses? I recall lots of past >>> discussions about the 2.5 but have not really followed them. Price (other than Kaleb's standard $500) that it should sell for? Thanks. Tom Harruff Naples, FL 1985 300Dt (Diesel Dolly) 1994 C280 (Wife's Car) 2000 Sedan Deville (Road Car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo
all 3.5's are rod benders Timothy Robinson wrote: > I thought the 126 was the "rod bender?" (through 1991?) The one mechanic > has is a 140 (SD). ooops.. so sorry, ya'll were talking about the 2.5 > 124... my bad. > > 4/20/08 22:19 Uhr, John Freer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> If you mean a W140 300SD instead of the subject W124, then there are 3 >> words to consider: "rod ben der". >> >> John >> On 4/20/08, Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> My mechanic has a '92 300SD just shy of 100K miles. I kinda fell for it >>> 'cause it's pretty immaculate. There's a lot of equipment (to go wrong?) >>> that my 300s don't have, like power door and trunk latches, side mirrors >>> that fold away electrically, IR keyless locks, etc. >>> >>> on 4/19/08 21:40 Uhr, Dwight E. Giles, Jr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Ditto to what Kaleb said. I love mine. But maybe in the NE would sell for more than 8K. -I know of one with 87K that recently sold on auto trader in CT for $14,500. I have been tempted to try to sell mine for $10-12K, but love it too much. Only beef-(other than AC evaporator leaks, etc,) I am not that tall 5'10" but can't get seat back far enough to straighten out my right knee when I drive on long trips.. I have tried all adjustments-but my 123's are more comfortable in front seats in that regard, even though they are manually adjusted. I see NO downside in buying this model. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo There are many pros, no cons I can think of. They are probably the best cars MB ever made. Mine gets 33mpg, has plenty of power, drives very nice, no problems. If it really has 45k on it I would figure it would sell for 8k plus. Tom Harruff wrote: > Listers > > I have found a 1992 300 D (2.5 Turbo) with 45,000 miles indicated in the ad. > Before I call and go to look at the vehicle, what are the listers experiences with this vehicle. Pluses and minuses? I recall lots of past discussions about the 2.5 but have not really followed them. > Price (other than Kaleb's standard $500) that it should sell for? > > Thanks. > > Tom Harruff > Naples, FL > 1985 300Dt (Diesel Dolly) > 1994 C280 (Wife's Car) > 2000 Sedan Deville (Road Car) > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Wagon In Wichita
124 wagons use a tandem pump. as long as the pump has oil in it, and the suspension remote tank has oil in it, the suspension is most likely ok. Suspension takes special bug juice. If it has ATF in in the suspension reservoir, that is a signal of trouble potential. 124 wagons are nice. Other than the tandem pump, the engine should be pretty much the same as your 300SEL. M013. At 08:48 PM 4/20/2008, you wrote: >Kaleb wrote: "yea I saw that, thought about it myself" > >The prospect of another blown head gasket is what gives me pause. I >will probably go drive it this week. I got an email from the seller >saying that the only leaks he can see are an oil leak at the valve >cover gasket. I don't have any experience with the wagons, but I >would think they would have the same benefits/problems that the 124 >sedan has (with the exception of the hydraulic rear suspension. > >Donald H. Snook >1997 Ford Explorer For Sale > > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
Well, he still has Hope that things might Change! --R Tom Hargrave wrote: > You never know. > > I used to work with a card carrying Communist. He would spout off "facts" > about his perfect 32 hour work week and how unfair Capitalism was to the > "working class". > > One day I got fed up and I stated "It must be nice to dream about the > perfect system while working in a capitalistic society". > > He asked "what do you mean". > > I responded with "Here you are, enjoying the proceeds of the greatest > economy in the world. You drive the car you chose to drive. You wear the > close you chose to wear. You get to watch football on a huge 31" color > television (this was a while ago). You eat the food you want to eat. And you > have the freedom to travel anywhere in this country. And you do these things > with no restrictions other than your own finances, which by the way, are > ultimately your responsibility. You get to do all of this while dreaming of > the perfect Communist system which has proven over & over again to not be > able to provide the standard of living you are used to." > > He glared at me, walked away and as far as I know still keeps his "Communist > dreams" to himself. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of LarryT > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 5:08 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes > > I am thinking Rich is funnin' with us - ;-) > > He obviously knows how absurd such a suggestion is and wants to see who will > > rise to the bait -- > Jeez, *everybody* knows how aburd such a suggestion is. Except Castro of > course. > > Besides, ~10% seems pretty low - don't forget, we could get them to invest > all that profit in new refineries and > drilling rigs if we'd only open some domestic oil fields up to exploration. > > Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > 800-583-8601 > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Tony Wirtel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 5:52 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes > > > >>> > From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes >>> > To: Mercedes Discussion List >>> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >>> > >>> > Oil companies should be nationalized and run by the federal >>> government, >>> > with all excess income going to fund programs. That ought to make >>> > things better. >>> > >>> > --R >>> > >>> >>> Rich >>> >>> That's been done in several countries. Mexico comes to mind. Lots of >>> oil available, but after years of quasi-governmental control they've >>> been importing- especially in refined fuels. >>> >>> Venezuela? Take a look at their recent production trends. Russia has >>> also been active in re-appropriating oil fields, and they've also seen >>> production stagnate with their former "partners" gone. >>> >>> Tony Wirtel >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 > 11:31 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 > 11:31 AM > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL loose alternator pulley
I think your plan will be fine without a new lockwasher. That is an unusual size lockwasher. Not likely one you can buy locally. As long as your lockwasher is there and looks like a lockwasher, the key, locktight and lotsa torque should hold it on. My guess is the missing key is the culprit. At 05:51 PM 4/20/2008, you wrote: >I took it apart - the key is missing. A new key, lock-tite and an >impact wrench might do it. Will check to see if I have big lock >washers too. > >Thanks > >-Dave Walton > >On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's been a while since I had mine off but isn't the pulley keyed? If it is > > & the nut is properly tightened then it can't loosen unless the threads on > > the shaft are under size or the threads on the nut are over size. > > > > If this is the case then it's time for a new alternator. > > > > Thanks, > > Tom Hargrave > > www.kegkits.com > > 256-656-1924 > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of OK Don > > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 5:23 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300SDL loose alternator pulley > > > > Perhaps the front bearing is now toast, or the shaft is bent? Does > > sound strange! > > > > > > -- > > OK Don, KD5NRO > > Norman, OK > > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 > > 11:31 AM > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 > > 11:31 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo
As "I know nothingk!" thanks John and Kaleb for warning... So... ALL 3.5's? It wasn't something that was "fixed" in the later years? on 4/20/08 23:00 Uhr, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > all 3.5's are rod benders > > Timothy Robinson wrote: >> I thought the 126 was the "rod bender?" (through 1991?) The one mechanic >> has is a 140 (SD). ooops.. so sorry, ya'll were talking about the 2.5 >> 124... my bad. >> >> 4/20/08 22:19 Uhr, John Freer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> If you mean a W140 300SD instead of the subject W124, then there are 3 >>> words to consider: "rod ben der". >>> >>> John >>> On 4/20/08, Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My mechanic has a '92 300SD just shy of 100K miles. I kinda fell for it 'cause it's pretty immaculate. There's a lot of equipment (to go wrong?) that my 300s don't have, like power door and trunk latches, side mirrors that fold away electrically, IR keyless locks, etc. on 4/19/08 21:40 Uhr, Dwight E. Giles, Jr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ditto to what Kaleb said. I love mine. But maybe in the NE would sell for > more than 8K. -I know of one with 87K that recently sold on auto trader in > CT for $14,500. I have been tempted to try to sell mine for $10-12K, but > love it too much. Only beef-(other than AC evaporator leaks, etc,) I am > not > that tall 5'10" but can't get seat back far enough to straighten out my > right knee when I drive on long trips.. I have tried all adjustments-but > my > 123's are more comfortable in front seats in that regard, even though they > are manually adjusted. I see NO downside in buying this model. > Dwight > > Dwight E. Giles, Jr. > 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. > 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles > 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. > Wickford, RI > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:42 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo > > There are many pros, no cons I can think of. They are probably the best > cars MB ever made. Mine gets 33mpg, has plenty of power, drives very > nice, no problems. If it really has 45k on it I would figure it would > sell for 8k plus. > > Tom Harruff wrote: >> Listers >> >> I have found a 1992 300 D (2.5 Turbo) with 45,000 miles indicated in the > ad. >> Before I call and go to look at the vehicle, what are the listers > experiences with this vehicle. Pluses and minuses? I recall lots of past > discussions about the 2.5 but have not really followed them. >> Price (other than Kaleb's standard $500) that it should sell for? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Tom Harruff >> Naples, FL >> 1985 300Dt (Diesel Dolly) >> 1994 C280 (Wife's Car) >> 2000 Sedan Deville (Road Car) >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] steel
> < apples to steel mining.>> > Steel is mined? And all along I thought.. RLE ** Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1st year 140 diesel, omigod
<> This calls for one of them interventions. RLE ** Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo
Timothy Robinson wrote: > So... ALL 3.5's? It wasn't something that was "fixed" in the later years? Yes, it was fixed after production of the cars ended. If it has a recent factory replacement engine it should be fine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gil Racing
on 4/20/08 22:38, tom savage at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Steve MacSween wrote: >> Thanks, I did already but got nothing back. The only e-mail addy I had was >> the @gilracing from the storefront, anyone got a 'real' one? > > I just talked to Jaime. Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] Okay, will do, thanks a bunch. If has none I'm stuck with the stuff on eBay and it's inferior. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ticking lifter
I have a friend with an older buick with the 3800. He says he has a ticking noise in the engine when it is cold. The noise goes away when warm. Sounds like a lifter to me. I remember when I was at the dealership, there were several cars that had this problem. Most of the time it was people who were not very consistent with oil changes. I also remember that some of these had this noise for years and thousands of miles. So, any ideas what I should tell him. Will a weak/bad lifter get worse? Will it cause any other problems? Should he try one of the many engine treatments like Rislone or any of the others? Donald H. Snook 1997 Ford Explorer For Sale ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo
Tim, MB really made this a confusing topic. The 350 was introduced in the W126 in 91 and then cqrried over to the W140 but they changed the designation to 300 instead of 350, for whatever marketing reasom. John On 4/20/08, Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As "I know nothingk!" thanks John and Kaleb for warning... > > So... ALL 3.5's? It wasn't something that was "fixed" in the later years? > > > > on 4/20/08 23:00 Uhr, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > all 3.5's are rod benders > > > > Timothy Robinson wrote: > >> I thought the 126 was the "rod bender?" (through 1991?) The one mechanic > >> has is a 140 (SD). ooops.. so sorry, ya'll were talking about the 2.5 > >> 124... my bad. > >> > >> 4/20/08 22:19 Uhr, John Freer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >>> If you mean a W140 300SD instead of the subject W124, then there are 3 > >>> words to consider: "rod ben der". > >>> > >>> John > >>> On 4/20/08, Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My mechanic has a '92 300SD just shy of 100K miles. I kinda fell for it > 'cause it's pretty immaculate. There's a lot of equipment (to go wrong?) > that my 300s don't have, like power door and trunk latches, side mirrors > that fold away electrically, IR keyless locks, etc. > > on 4/19/08 21:40 Uhr, Dwight E. Giles, Jr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Ditto to what Kaleb said. I love mine. But maybe in the NE would sell > > for > > more than 8K. -I know of one with 87K that recently sold on auto trader > > in > > CT for $14,500. I have been tempted to try to sell mine for $10-12K, > > but > > love it too much. Only beef-(other than AC evaporator leaks, etc,) I am > > not > > that tall 5'10" but can't get seat back far enough to straighten out my > > right knee when I drive on long trips.. I have tried all > > adjustments-but > > my > > 123's are more comfortable in front seats in that regard, even though > > they > > are manually adjusted. I see NO downside in buying this model. > > Dwight > > > > Dwight E. Giles, Jr. > > 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. > > 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles > > 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. > > Wickford, RI > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:42 AM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo > > > > There are many pros, no cons I can think of. They are probably the best > > cars MB ever made. Mine gets 33mpg, has plenty of power, drives very > > nice, no problems. If it really has 45k on it I would figure it would > > sell for 8k plus. > > > > Tom Harruff wrote: > >> Listers > >> > >> I have found a 1992 300 D (2.5 Turbo) with 45,000 miles indicated in > >> the > > ad. > >> Before I call and go to look at the vehicle, what are the listers > > experiences with this vehicle. Pluses and minuses? I recall lots of > > past > > discussions about the 2.5 but have not really followed them. > >> Price (other than Kaleb's standard $500) that it should sell for? > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> Tom Harruff > >> Naples, FL > >> 1985 300Dt (Diesel Dolly) > >> 1994 C280 (Wife's Car) > >> 2000 Sedan Deville (Road Car) > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo
It was never fixed except with a new crate engine from MB Timothy Robinson wrote: > As "I know nothingk!" thanks John and Kaleb for warning... > > So... ALL 3.5's? It wasn't something that was "fixed" in the later years? > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo
Actually it was in 90. 94-95 140 was back to 350 designation John Freer wrote: > Tim, > MB really made this a confusing topic. > > The 350 was introduced in the W126 in 91 and then cqrried over to the > W140 but they changed the designation to 300 instead of 350, for > whatever marketing reasom. > > John > > On 4/20/08, Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> As "I know nothingk!" thanks John and Kaleb for warning... >> >> So... ALL 3.5's? It wasn't something that was "fixed" in the later years? >> >> >> >> on 4/20/08 23:00 Uhr, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> all 3.5's are rod benders >>> >>> Timothy Robinson wrote: I thought the 126 was the "rod bender?" (through 1991?) The one mechanic has is a 140 (SD). ooops.. so sorry, ya'll were talking about the 2.5 124... my bad. 4/20/08 22:19 Uhr, John Freer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If you mean a W140 300SD instead of the subject W124, then there are 3 > words to consider: "rod ben der". > > John > On 4/20/08, Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> My mechanic has a '92 300SD just shy of 100K miles. I kinda fell for it >> 'cause it's pretty immaculate. There's a lot of equipment (to go wrong?) >> that my 300s don't have, like power door and trunk latches, side mirrors >> that fold away electrically, IR keyless locks, etc. >> >> on 4/19/08 21:40 Uhr, Dwight E. Giles, Jr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> Ditto to what Kaleb said. I love mine. But maybe in the NE would sell >>> for >>> more than 8K. -I know of one with 87K that recently sold on auto trader >>> in >>> CT for $14,500. I have been tempted to try to sell mine for $10-12K, >>> but >>> love it too much. Only beef-(other than AC evaporator leaks, etc,) I am >>> not >>> that tall 5'10" but can't get seat back far enough to straighten out my >>> right knee when I drive on long trips.. I have tried all >>> adjustments-but >>> my >>> 123's are more comfortable in front seats in that regard, even though >>> they >>> are manually adjusted. I see NO downside in buying this model. >>> Dwight >>> >>> Dwight E. Giles, Jr. >>> 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. >>> 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles >>> 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. >>> Wickford, RI >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin >>> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:42 AM >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo >>> >>> There are many pros, no cons I can think of. They are probably the best >>> cars MB ever made. Mine gets 33mpg, has plenty of power, drives very >>> nice, no problems. If it really has 45k on it I would figure it would >>> sell for 8k plus. >>> >>> Tom Harruff wrote: Listers I have found a 1992 300 D (2.5 Turbo) with 45,000 miles indicated in the >>> ad. Before I call and go to look at the vehicle, what are the listers >>> experiences with this vehicle. Pluses and minuses? I recall lots of >>> past >>> discussions about the 2.5 but have not really followed them. Price (other than Kaleb's standard $500) that it should sell for? Thanks. Tom Harruff Naples, FL 1985 300Dt (Diesel Dolly) 1994 C280 (Wife's Car) 2000 Sedan Deville (Road Car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >>
Re: [MBZ] Removing rear flange 722.4/comment
I had suggested that Kaleb might need a special socket to remove the output flange retaining nut. To replace the rear seal on my 79 300SD, I needed a 4 prong socket.? I made one fron a standard depth, 1/2" drive,?Craftsman 12 point socket, size 1 1/8 inch. By sawing away opposite pairs of flats, I ended up with 4 prongs,?about 1/4" wide, and?about 1/4" tall.? Now a days, you can probably borrow such a tool from Autozone, et al. Is this basically what you are looking at? Of course, you can't see the nut until you remove the driveshaft. Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 1:05 am Subject: [MBZ] Removing rear flange 722.4 I seem to remember that recently there was a discussion about removing the rear flange on an MB box, I gotta do a 722.4 to enable me to swap boxes between my Mum's 190E and my 230E. What was the outcome? Hendrik who hit a bit of a hurdle ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo
Thanks for all the advice, guys... I kinda need the excuse to tell myself "No." I doubt the engine has been replaced. The last three miles of my daily drive the next 26 weeks is up the steepest state maintained road in NC (In low gear and steady speed around 20mpg I'm sitting on about 3000 rpm for about 9 minutes). That would probably be ideal conditions to do some engine damage. 4/20/08 23:23 Uhr, Mitch Haley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Timothy Robinson wrote: >> So... ALL 3.5's? It wasn't something that was "fixed" in the later years? > > Yes, it was fixed after production of the cars ended. If it has a recent > factory replacement engine it should be fine. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo/NOTE!
NOTE:? The engine in your subject line is NOT the problem engine.? On the contrary, the 2.5 turbo would get you up the hill with ferver, and reliability.? The 3.5 turbodiesel is tthe one with weak rods. If you are still going to pass on this 2.5, let the list know where it is! Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:49 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo Thanks for all the advice, guys... I kinda need the excuse to tell myself "No." I doubt the engine has been replaced. The last three miles of my daily drive the next 26 weeks is up the steepest state maintained road in NC (In low gear and steady speed around 20mpg I'm sitting on about 3000 rpm for about 9 minutes). That would probably be ideal conditions to do some engine damage. 4/20/08 23:23 Uhr, Mitch Haley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Timothy Robinson wrote: >> So... ALL 3.5's? It wasn't something that was "fixed" in the later years? > > Yes, it was fixed after production of the cars ended. If it has a recent > factory replacement engine it should be fine. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo/NOTE!
Jim, I was mistaken... posting on others' thread about the 1992 300D 2.5, I was talking about a 1992 300SD (140). So, my mistake, it's not a 2.5 but an SD, apparently with the 3.5L engine. Nice clean vehicle, though. It's in Asheville, NC. on 4/21/08 2:10 Uhr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > NOTE:? The engine in your subject line is NOT the problem engine.? On the > contrary, the 2.5 turbo would get you up the hill with ferver, and > reliability.? The 3.5 turbodiesel is tthe one with weak rods. > > If you are still going to pass on this 2.5, let the list know where it is! > > Jim in Phoenix > > > -Original Message- > From: Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Sent: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:49 pm > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo > > > > Thanks for all the advice, guys... I kinda need the excuse to tell myself > "No." I doubt the engine has been replaced. The last three miles of my > daily drive the next 26 weeks is up the steepest state maintained road in NC > (In low gear and steady speed around 20mpg I'm sitting on about 3000 rpm for > about 9 minutes). That would probably be ideal conditions to do some engine > damage. > > > > 4/20/08 23:23 Uhr, Mitch Haley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> Timothy Robinson wrote: >>> So... ALL 3.5's? It wasn't something that was "fixed" in the later years? >> >> Yes, it was fixed after production of the cars ended. If it has a recent >> factory replacement engine it should be fine. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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