Re: [MBZ] ebay WTF??

2008-05-01 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 5/1/2008 2:33:51 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

It sure  LOOKS like ebay, but I sure as hell dont think ebay would 
want this.   Even if they did, I would NOT give it to them.  If I log in 
via  firfox, I dont get this, so I think I have a bug or something.  I  



Kaleb,
 
Ebay and Paypal remind us that there official communications always address  
you by your real name, not your user ID or such.  I always forward Phishing  
enails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) , [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) , etc.  Then delete them!  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles 
98 ML 320, 155 K  miles




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Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-01 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  going to open the thing to try to free the fan (I heard some
>  fan-blade-banging-against-something type noises when I first powered it
>  up), but they have "tamper-resistant" torx screws holding the cover on.

Bits to drive those are readily available online and good to have... I
notice them in use on an increasing number of consumer products that
They don't want you to get inside.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-01 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 02 May 2008 00:31:03 -0400 Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Craig McCluskey wrote:
> > I put it on our formica counter and immediately noticed that the hard
> > plastic (front) and metal (rear) feet slide very easily over the
> > counter, especially when you try to push to "button" to open the door.
> 
> It might be easier to put a dab of silicone on each foot than to ship
> the thing back. When the sealant starts getting firm, put waxed paper
> over the feet and put it right side up. When fully hardened, remove
> the waxed paper and the silicone should grip the formica.

Good idea.

Another problem is that the cooling fan is jammed and doesn't run. I was
going to open the thing to try to free the fan (I heard some
fan-blade-banging-against-something type noises when I first powered it
up), but they have "tamper-resistant" torx screws holding the cover on.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig McCluskey wrote:
> I put it on our formica counter and immediately noticed that the hard
> plastic (front) and metal (rear) feet slide very easily over the counter,
> especially when you try to push to "button" to open the door.

It might be easier to put a dab of silicone on each foot than to ship
the thing back. When the sealant starts getting firm, put waxed paper
over the feet and put it right side up. When fully hardened, remove
the waxed paper and the silicone should grip the formica.

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[MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-01 Thread Craig McCluskey
We've been in the market for a new microwave oven. After looking at the
local hardware store (where the microwave ovens were still in their boxes)
and online, I decided to get one from Amazon.com.

I chose the Sharp R-230KK Black 800-Watt 4/5 cubic foot oven because many
of the others are 17+ inches deep and leave little or no counter room in
front of the microwave.

It came today.

I put it on our formica counter and immediately noticed that the hard
plastic (front) and metal (rear) feet slide very easily over the counter,
especially when you try to push to "button" to open the door.

I was not impressed.

It's going back.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Looks like a 1958 300s or 220s

2008-05-01 Thread tom savage
Hendrik & Fay wrote:
> Without going into detail, the top of the line Pontoon was the 220s 
> (which was the S class of the era), being the most desirable pontoon due 
> to the extra chrome and features.
> Once you get into the 300's you are talking big limousine, the Maybach 
> of the time, with the 300d being the most common and famous but there 
> where others but I am pretty sure they never made a 300s. They started 
> with the 300a then b,c and finally the d, which got the nickname 
> Adenauer. Note the small d, this designates a particular version rather 
> than the type of engine as in 300D or 300E. However a 300S was produced 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_Type_300
> 
> Hendrik
> being pedantic again

Not to contest your pedantry, but Top Ponton was actually the 220SE with 
fuel injection.  They even got their own chassis designation, W128.

Tom

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Re: [MBZ] V-8 fuel pump relay needed

2008-05-01 Thread Jim Cathey
> Yeah, but why should any of us soldering-impaired klutzes bother to
> try when you can do it so much better, Jim?  ;)

'cause I ain't doing that any more.  I have absolutely no
time, it seems...

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Restaurant inspections

2008-05-01 Thread RELNGSON
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGuAQS5eFs8&feature=related



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Re: [MBZ] The CDI.... 5k miles later

2008-05-01 Thread Robert Rentfro
John asked me:

"Bob R, how are you (or your wife) enjoying the E320?"

After reading your CDI report makes me wish I had considered the black on
black CDI a little more seriously. I absolutely loved the loaner I got to
drive for a day.
We like the gasser just fine. I concur with all the things you said. These
newer Mercedes have restored my faith in the three pointed star.

Bob R


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Re: [MBZ] Looks like a 1958 300s or 220s

2008-05-01 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Thanks Hendrik,
Applied MB pedantry is one of the reasons I stay on this list.  So do you
think that one is a 220s?
Dwight

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles.  
1979 240D- auto -250K + miles 
1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles.
Wickford, RI

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Hendrik & Fay
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:03 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Looks like a 1958 300s or 220s

Without going into detail, the top of the line Pontoon was the 220s 
(which was the S class of the era), being the most desirable pontoon due 
to the extra chrome and features.
Once you get into the 300's you are talking big limousine, the Maybach 
of the time, with the 300d being the most common and famous but there 
where others but I am pretty sure they never made a 300s. They started 
with the 300a then b,c and finally the d, which got the nickname 
Adenauer. Note the small d, this designates a particular version rather 
than the type of engine as in 300D or 300E. However a 300S was produced 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_Type_300

Hendrik
being pedantic again

LWB250 wrote:
> Grossly overpriced and poorly maintained Ponton.
>
> A true POC with the seat covers, and worth well below
> the asking price.
>
> Dan
>
>
> --- Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/658935249.html
>>
>> But what the heck do I know.  Bound to be somebody
>> on list that needs  
>> this in the worst way
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Clay
>> 
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Palm River-Tampa: was bad vibration

2008-05-01 Thread LWB250
I used to work at 78th Street and Palm River.  If we
didn't have a guard at the gate of our property the
locals would literally walk in to the parking lot,
pick a car, and either strip or steal it.  Or set up
housekeeping and have a little "party" in it.

There is a McDonald's at that intersection as well,
and even in broad daylight I wouldn't go into it.

Zephyrhills is a nice, rural area, but like many of
the rural areas around  here these days it's becoming
a place of pot growers and "hillbilly heroin" (meth)
producers.  Polk County, directly to our east, is the
largest pot and meth producing county in the state, or
so a law enforcement buddy tells me.

Not the sort of thing you want to be known for, I
don't think...

Dan


--- archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My BIL, a carpenter, moved down from Huntingburg,
> Indiana and built a house 
> near the corner of Maydell Dr and Palm River Rd in
> 1947.  It was open 
> country/farmland then.  I stayed with him while I
> was working in Tampa for a 
> few years in the 1970s.  When they built the big
> subdivision across the road 
> from  his house, my sister knew it was time to move,
> but he loved his house 
> and refused to consider it.  The neighborhood got
> dangerous, so the family 
> chipped in and loaned my sister enough money to buy
> a house in Zephyrhills. 
> BIL, a contrary WW-2 army vet, tried to stay in in
> his PR house.  He lasted 
> about 3 months and finally moved to Zephyrhills too.
>  They sold the house 
> and three rental houses they owned in PR.  I really
> felt sorry for BIL.  He 
> loved his PR home and loved to fish off the PR
> bridge.  Sad.
> Gerry


  

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Re: [MBZ] Looks like a 1958 300s or 220s

2008-05-01 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Without going into detail, the top of the line Pontoon was the 220s 
(which was the S class of the era), being the most desirable pontoon due 
to the extra chrome and features.
Once you get into the 300's you are talking big limousine, the Maybach 
of the time, with the 300d being the most common and famous but there 
where others but I am pretty sure they never made a 300s. They started 
with the 300a then b,c and finally the d, which got the nickname 
Adenauer. Note the small d, this designates a particular version rather 
than the type of engine as in 300D or 300E. However a 300S was produced 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_Type_300

Hendrik
being pedantic again

LWB250 wrote:
> Grossly overpriced and poorly maintained Ponton.
>
> A true POC with the seat covers, and worth well below
> the asking price.
>
> Dan
>
>
> --- Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/658935249.html
>>
>> But what the heck do I know.  Bound to be somebody
>> on list that needs  
>> this in the worst way
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Clay
>> 
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] ebay WTF??

2008-05-01 Thread LarryT
I know all the suggestions about switching to a Mac are very helpful, but 
you have all the classic symptoms of a virus - and that note from eBay is 
what's called a phishing site (I think) - you need to run your AV software - 
if you don't have one, I suggest you download the free version of AVG at 
http://www.grisoft.com/ww.home-and-office-security - it's a little hard to 
find the Free version - this should be it - 
http://www.grisoft.com/ww.product-avg-anti-virus-free-edition
it also contains a anti-spyware - but some run are several - there are many, 
some are fee based and some are free.

You also need a Firewall to keep Virus' & spyware from infecting your 
computer.

There's a free Firewall called ZoneAlarm which is highly recommended.  I 
used both of these programs (AVG& Zone Alarm) until I switched to Concast 
digital and started receiving free McAfee Security Suite.   Even then I 
tried to keep them but they caused problems.

Hopefully you will be able to identifyy the Virus you have - there may be a 
website with a specific procedure for removing that specific virus.

Sometimes people must wipe their disc and re-install everything.  I hope you 
kept a backup of important stuff - sometimes data is lost.

Take care -- 

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- Original Message - 
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Banned List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "mercedes Mailing List" 

Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:33 PM
Subject: [MBZ] ebay WTF??


> So I have been having some trouble with IE 7, it starts but never really
> does anything.  So I uninstalled it and went back to 6.  Go to ebay, ,
> click my ebay, go to log in, after I log it, it takes me to a page
> saying they have started some new security deal, and want my name,
> address, ssn, card number, atm pin, bank routing number, acct number
> etc.  It sure LOOKS like ebay, but I sure as hell dont think ebay would
> want this.  Even if they did, I would NOT give it to them.  If I log in
> via firfox, I dont get this, so I think I have a bug or something.  I
> just re downloaded IE 7 to see what it does.  This is very strage.  This
> is the message source info if it helps:
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> eBay.com - User identification
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  href="https://secureinclude.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/css/ebay.css";>
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/";> src="https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/register/HeaderRegister_387x40.gif";
> alt="From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on eBay"
> title="From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on
> eBay" border="0" width="387" height="40">
> 

Re: [MBZ] ebay WTF??

2008-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have never had any problems with it before, strange

Loren Faeth wrote:
> Welcome to IE 7.  Now you know why I block it in automatic updates 
> and use firefox almost all the time!
> 
> At 04:53 PM 5/1/2008, you wrote:
>> yea, but still want to figure out what is going on.  Just restarted
>> after going to IE 7 again, and it starts up, but doesnt load and just
>> hangs there, same as before.  This is starting to piss me off
>>
>> Luther wrote:
>>> Yet another reason to use Mozilla or Opera
>>>
>>> On Thu, 01 May 2008 16:33:08 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin 
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 So I have been having some trouble with IE 7, it starts but never really
 does anything.  So I uninstalled it and went back to 6.  Go to ebay, ,
 click my ebay, go to log in, after I log it, it takes me to a page
 saying they have started some new security deal, and want my name,
 address, ssn, card number, atm pin, bank routing number, acct number
 etc.  It sure LOOKS like ebay, but I sure as hell dont think ebay would
 want this.  Even if they did, I would NOT give it to them.  If I log in
 via firfox, I dont get this, so I think I have a bug or something.  I
 just re downloaded IE 7 to see what it does.  This is very strage.  This
 is the message source info if it helps:

 
 
 
 
 eBay.com - User identification
 
 
 
 
 
 >>> href="https://secureinclude.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/css/ebay.css";>
 
 http://www.ebay.com/";
>> src="https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/register/HeaderRegister_387x40.gif";
 alt="From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on eBay"
 title="From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on
 eBay" border="0" width="387" height="40">
 

Re: [MBZ] ebay WTF??

2008-05-01 Thread Loren Faeth
Welcome to IE 7.  Now you know why I block it in automatic updates 
and use firefox almost all the time!

At 04:53 PM 5/1/2008, you wrote:
>yea, but still want to figure out what is going on.  Just restarted
>after going to IE 7 again, and it starts up, but doesnt load and just
>hangs there, same as before.  This is starting to piss me off
>
>Luther wrote:
> > Yet another reason to use Mozilla or Opera
> >
> > On Thu, 01 May 2008 16:33:08 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> So I have been having some trouble with IE 7, it starts but never really
> >> does anything.  So I uninstalled it and went back to 6.  Go to ebay, ,
> >> click my ebay, go to log in, after I log it, it takes me to a page
> >> saying they have started some new security deal, and want my name,
> >> address, ssn, card number, atm pin, bank routing number, acct number
> >> etc.  It sure LOOKS like ebay, but I sure as hell dont think ebay would
> >> want this.  Even if they did, I would NOT give it to them.  If I log in
> >> via firfox, I dont get this, so I think I have a bug or something.  I
> >> just re downloaded IE 7 to see what it does.  This is very strage.  This
> >> is the message source info if it helps:
> >>
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> eBay.com - User identification
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>  >> href="https://secureinclude.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/css/ebay.css";>
> >> 
> >> http://www.ebay.com/";> >> 
> src="https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/register/HeaderRegister_387x40.gif";
> >> alt="From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on eBay"
> >> title="From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on
> >> eBay" border="0" width="387" height="40">
> >> 

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] ebay WTF??

2008-05-01 Thread OK Don
The cosmic rays have changed a few bits on your hard drive - time to
format and reload.

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> but, there are other problems as well.  For instance, I cant get my
>  control panel to open now.  I tried restore but I hve the same thing
>
>
>
>  Luther wrote:
>  > Yet another reason to use Mozilla or Opera
>  >
>  > On Thu, 01 May 2008 16:33:08 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>  >
>  >> So I have been having some trouble with IE 7, it starts but never really
>  >> does anything.  So I uninstalled it and went back to 6.  Go to ebay, ,
>  >> click my ebay, go to log in, after I log it, it takes me to a page
>  >> saying they have started some new security deal, and want my name,
>  >> address, ssn, card number, atm pin, bank routing number, acct number
>  >> etc.  It sure LOOKS like ebay, but I sure as hell dont think ebay would
>  >> want this.  Even if they did, I would NOT give it to them.  If I log in
>  >> via firfox, I dont get this, so I think I have a bug or something.  I
>  >> just re downloaded IE 7 to see what it does.  This is very strage.  This
>  >> is the message source info if it helps:
>  >>
>  >> 
>  >> 
>  >> 
>  >> 
>  >> eBay.com - User identification
>  >> 
>  >> 
>  >> 
>  >> 
>  >> 
>  >>   >> href="https://secureinclude.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/css/ebay.css";>
>  >> 
>  >> http://www.ebay.com/";>  >> 
> src="https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/register/HeaderRegister_387x40.gif";
>  >> alt="From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on eBay"
>  >> title="From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on
>  >> eBay" border="0" width="387" height="40">
>  >> 

Re: [MBZ] The CDI.... 5k miles later

2008-05-01 Thread OK Don
I like the verticle temp and fuel "gauges", but miss the oil pressure
gauge. Then again, the verticle speedo is the only thing I like about
the finnies 
I wonder how this car will be in 16 to 20 years and 200K to 300K
miles, when I might be able to afford one?

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Alex Chamberlain
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  I just cant get past that ugly instrument cluster though.
>  >

-- 
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-Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain
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Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville

2008-05-01 Thread Bill R
Just let us know.  I was assuming she would not be interested with folks she
didn't know, but I had forgotten that she reads all the posts so does feel a
bit like one of us.
BillR

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville

Sorry guys, won't be in town, yet.

Did book our tickets;  Arriving JAX 5/31;  Driving our newly aquired 2001
2WD Tahoe (!)  back north 6/6.

Bill, maybe we can hook up sometime that week at Singletons or one of the
other places I talked about..  Probably have my wife with me, too.

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Re: [MBZ] [Banned] ebay WTF??

2008-05-01 Thread LWB250

--- Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yet another reason to use Mozilla or Opera
> 


... or a Mac.

Sorry, just had to get that in...

Dan




  

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Re: [MBZ] Peter 300D a/c problem

2008-05-01 Thread Peter Frederick
You can check for low charge cutout by momentarily shorting the two  
wire that go to the pressure switch together (the pressure switch has  
the spade lugs on it, not the pigtails, that one is for the fan).  If  
the compressor comes on, it's just low.

If the compressor runs for a few seconds when you first start the  
engine with the AC set to run (set the temp wheel full cold), then  
won't run again, either the KLIMA is bad or the speed signal isn't  
getting through (this is where I am at the moment, even with a known  
good KLIMA, it cuts out, so I need to find out what's up with the  
speed signal).  Most common cause is a bad belt or bad belt tensioner  
allowing the belt to slip, a fairy easy fix (although the belt  
tensioner isn't cheap).  At least on the diesel it's just  a spring,  
why MB used the one they did on the gasser is beyond me.

If it still won't come on when you jump the low pressure cutout, you  
have either a KLIMA problem or a pushbutton unit problem, and you  
will have to look that all up, it's a different pushbutton unit than  
the W124 and I don't have data.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] [Banned] ebay WTF??

2008-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
but, there are other problems as well.  For instance, I cant get my 
control panel to open now.  I tried restore but I hve the same thing

Luther wrote:
> Yet another reason to use Mozilla or Opera
> 
> On Thu, 01 May 2008 16:33:08 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> So I have been having some trouble with IE 7, it starts but never really
>> does anything.  So I uninstalled it and went back to 6.  Go to ebay, ,
>> click my ebay, go to log in, after I log it, it takes me to a page
>> saying they have started some new security deal, and want my name,
>> address, ssn, card number, atm pin, bank routing number, acct number
>> etc.  It sure LOOKS like ebay, but I sure as hell dont think ebay would
>> want this.  Even if they did, I would NOT give it to them.  If I log in
>> via firfox, I dont get this, so I think I have a bug or something.  I
>> just re downloaded IE 7 to see what it does.  This is very strage.  This
>> is the message source info if it helps:
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> eBay.com - User identification
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > href="https://secureinclude.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/css/ebay.css";>
>> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/";>> src="https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/register/HeaderRegister_387x40.gif";
>> alt="From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on eBay"
>> title="From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on
>> eBay" border="0" width="387" height="40">
>> 

Re: [MBZ] ebay WTF??

2008-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, but still want to figure out what is going on.  Just restarted 
after going to IE 7 again, and it starts up, but doesnt load and just 
hangs there, same as before.  This is starting to piss me off

Luther wrote:
> Yet another reason to use Mozilla or Opera
> 
> On Thu, 01 May 2008 16:33:08 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> So I have been having some trouble with IE 7, it starts but never really
>> does anything.  So I uninstalled it and went back to 6.  Go to ebay, ,
>> click my ebay, go to log in, after I log it, it takes me to a page
>> saying they have started some new security deal, and want my name,
>> address, ssn, card number, atm pin, bank routing number, acct number
>> etc.  It sure LOOKS like ebay, but I sure as hell dont think ebay would
>> want this.  Even if they did, I would NOT give it to them.  If I log in
>> via firfox, I dont get this, so I think I have a bug or something.  I
>> just re downloaded IE 7 to see what it does.  This is very strage.  This
>> is the message source info if it helps:
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> eBay.com - User identification
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > href="https://secureinclude.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/css/ebay.css";>
>> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/";>> src="https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/register/HeaderRegister_387x40.gif";
>> alt="From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on eBay"
>> title="From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on
>> eBay" border="0" width="387" height="40">
>> 

Re: [MBZ] ebay WTF??

2008-05-01 Thread Luther
Yet another reason to use Mozilla or Opera

On Thu, 01 May 2008 16:33:08 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So I have been having some trouble with IE 7, it starts but never really
> does anything.  So I uninstalled it and went back to 6.  Go to ebay, ,
> click my ebay, go to log in, after I log it, it takes me to a page
> saying they have started some new security deal, and want my name,
> address, ssn, card number, atm pin, bank routing number, acct number
> etc.  It sure LOOKS like ebay, but I sure as hell dont think ebay would
> want this.  Even if they did, I would NOT give it to them.  If I log in
> via firfox, I dont get this, so I think I have a bug or something.  I
> just re downloaded IE 7 to see what it does.  This is very strage.  This
> is the message source info if it helps:
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> eBay.com - User identification
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  href="https://secureinclude.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/css/ebay.css";>
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/";> src="https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/register/HeaderRegister_387x40.gif";
> alt="From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on eBay"
> title="From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on
> eBay" border="0" width="387" height="40">
> 

Re: [MBZ] The CDI.... 5k miles later

2008-05-01 Thread John Robbins
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Oh, thats way out west I think.  could have put you up here for free

Will keep that in mind next time :)  Didn't want to invite myself over 
this time around...



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[MBZ] ebay WTF??

2008-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So I have been having some trouble with IE 7, it starts but never really 
does anything.  So I uninstalled it and went back to 6.  Go to ebay, , 
click my ebay, go to log in, after I log it, it takes me to a page 
saying they have started some new security deal, and want my name, 
address, ssn, card number, atm pin, bank routing number, acct number 
etc.  It sure LOOKS like ebay, but I sure as hell dont think ebay would 
want this.  Even if they did, I would NOT give it to them.  If I log in 
via firfox, I dont get this, so I think I have a bug or something.  I 
just re downloaded IE 7 to see what it does.  This is very strage.  This 
is the message source info if it helps:





eBay.com - User identification





https://secureinclude.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/css/ebay.css";>

http://www.ebay.com/";>https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/register/HeaderRegister_387x40.gif";
 
alt="From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on eBay" 
title="From collectibles to cars, buy and sell all kinds of items on 
eBay" border="0" width="387" height="40">

Re: [MBZ] Looks like a 1958 300s

2008-05-01 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hey.

"not to sher whats wrong with it prabbably something small and stupid"

That tells the whole story.   And wonder where I can get that seat  
cover material.???

Take care,

Chuck

On Apr 30, 2008, at 9:16 PM, Redghost wrote:

> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/658935249.html
>
> But what the heck do I know.  Bound to be somebody on list that needs
> this in the worst way
>
>
>
>
> --
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>
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> 1995 E300D - Cleo
> 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
> The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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Re: [MBZ] The CDI.... 5k miles later

2008-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh, thats way out west I think.  could have put you up here for free

John Robbins wrote:
> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>> You should have stopped by on your way thru.
> 
> I thought about it, but by the time my plans changed to where I had time 
> for it I was about to hit the road and lose internet access.  Stayed 
> just below you in Shawnee Saturday night.
> 
>> I just cant get past that ugly instrument cluster though.
> 
> You get used to it.  The LCD display is *very* nice.  The only problem 
> is the graduations on the speedometer make it difficult to maintain 
> speed in the city since in the US you technically can't use the right 
> half of it.
> 
> John
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Re: [MBZ] CDI - 5 kmi later

2008-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, I probably could to.  Well, OK, I will  help John out, I will trade 
him straight across for his CDI for a nice SDL or something.

Wilton Strickland wrote:
> I think I could "get past" the "ugly" instrument cluster if I the chance.
> 
> Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville

2008-05-01 Thread Bill R
Rusty - I take it all back.  My darling wife said she would love to go have
lunch with us [anything to keep me guessing], but then it will need to be
Saturday.  Can we make that switch?
BillR- 

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Okie dokie.


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Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville


> I've got it in the calendar.  My darling wife won't be with me as she will
> be at work.  She is also deaf and does have a hard time with new folks 
> until
> she learns how their lips move, which is why I prefer a weekday.
> Bill.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens
> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:38 AM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville
>
> You wanna shoot for Wednesday, 11:30? I'll have my wife Teri with me.
>
>
> Rusty Cullens
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bill R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville
>
>
>> Count me in.  I am open all of those days, though I would prefer a
>> weekday.
>> BillR
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens
>> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:21 AM
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>> Subject: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville
>>
>> I am going to be in Fernandina Beach next week from 5/6 to 5/10. Would
>> anyone like to meet for lunch at Singletons as we had discussed earlier
>> last
>> month? Let me know as I have to paint a couple of bedrooms and need to
>> make
>> some plans.
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] (OT) general motors and their old tricks

2008-05-01 Thread LarryT
You *know* you're the envy of all on this list don't ya?  We don't envy the 
monthly
payments, but you've got a 1st class ride -
;-)
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- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:16 AM
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> Donald Snook wrote:
>> I agree. There are a lot of cars out there that will give
>> 75,000-100,000 of trouble free service.  The only problem with a lot
>> of these cars is that they will never get 200,000 miles or 300,000
>> miles.  I don't know whether the new Mercedes will do that either.
>> But, I know all of the Mercedes most of us own will.
>
> I'm on my way to finding out!  I'm biased, but I have been very
> impressed with the build quality of the CDI.  I don't know where anyone
> gets the idea that it is plasticy or has poor fit and finish.
>
> John
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>
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Re: [MBZ] (OT) general motors and their old tricks (my old story, but i tell it every time they upset me)

2008-05-01 Thread LarryT
They obviously have no problem copying designs that work well for other car 
companies.  There's look-alike MB grills and headlight for example.  Of 
course, it take more than similar sheetmetal to make a quality product.

There's just *one* change needed to the way they test their products - as 
Don Snook suggested - 100k is a piece of cake - let's see how their products 
work after 5-10 years of service or 200k miles - with proper servicing of 
course.

IMHO the road tests/evaluations done by car magazines have limited value. 
True, if the door handle falls off when the car is less than a month old, it 
is telling us something important.  But IMO virtually *any* car maker can 
produce a car with none or very few problems when it's got only a few 
hundred mile on it.

Anyway - I agree - Hyundai and KIA learned their lessons well and changed 
their product to suit Americans.

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Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:37 AM
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story,but i tell it every time they upset me)


>> I looked carefully at the luxury sedan they [Hyundai] make
>> in the $25k range, and I'll say that it's a fantastic car
>> for the money and very well built.
>
> I saw something like a Kia or Hyundai on the road a couple
> of years ago that was very attractive.  I had to do a
> double-take when I saw the badge.  Worth a look, certainly,
> if you're after such a thing.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Ebay Answer to CL /1968 230

2008-05-01 Thread Loren Faeth
yeah, but to the seller, it is "actual Mileage" because it has not 
been altered or tampered with.  It is from the ignorance is bliss 
school of thought:  "If I have not altered it, or if I don't know it 
has rolled over 3 times, then what it says is actual mileage!"

Most sellers are neither as educated nor as scrupulous as you are!

At 01:18 PM 5/1/2008, you wrote:
>Loren Faeth wrote:
> >  There is no telling how many
> > times the odometer has rolled over 9 and back to 0.  That is
> > still "actual mileage"
>
>The way I look at it, that qualifies for "mileage not actual, as
>actual mileage exceeds mechanical limits".
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Re: [MBZ] (OT) general motors and their old tricks (my old story, but i tell it every time they upset me)

2008-05-01 Thread Mitch Haley
I think Mitsubitchy was offering 20 years unlimited miles on powertrain
at one point. 

LarryT wrote:
> 
> It's kinda surprising but they brought some POS products here and sold
> them - they were such crap they sold very few.  So they found out where the
> problems were and fixed them.   Now, their products are as good as any made
> in Japan or Germany.
> 
> Plus, their prices are lower than any others.   I think they recently began
> offering the most comprehensive new car warranty offered anywhere - 10
> yr/100k miles IIRC.  Not being in the market for a new car I only partly pay
> attention - bit that seems right -
> 
> They offer a sports car call Tiburon which is very fast -
> 
> See ya'll -
> 
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 11:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] (OT) general motors and their old tricks (my old
> story,but i tell it every time they upset me)
> 
> >i kinda think they are the way to go right now.  never thought i'd be
> >saying
> > that!
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:10 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hyundai has some excellent products -
> >>
> >> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> >> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:08 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] (OT) general motors and their old tricks (my old
> >> story,but i tell it every time they upset me)
> >>
> >>
> >> > Naw. Honda and Toyota now are in the same position as GM was 20-30
> >> > years
> >> > ago.
> >> > They have been playing off past successes and starting to cheapen their
> >> > vehicles. There's going to be a new leader in a few years, and it won't
> >> be
> >> > either of them. Wait and see.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 05:05:37PM -0400, Gary Hurst wrote:
> >> >> i guess i'm hard headed.  seems everyone of basically normal
> >> intelligence
> >> >> has already figured out you say to hell with these gangsters and just
> >> get
> >> >> a
> >> >> honda or a toyota
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Re: [MBZ] (OT) general motors and their old tricks (my old story, but i tell it every time they upset me)

2008-05-01 Thread LarryT
It's kinda surprising but they brought some POS products here and sold 
them - they were such crap they sold very few.  So they found out where the 
problems were and fixed them.   Now, their products are as good as any made 
in Japan or Germany.

Plus, their prices are lower than any others.   I think they recently began 
offering the most comprehensive new car warranty offered anywhere - 10 
yr/100k miles IIRC.  Not being in the market for a new car I only partly pay 
attention - bit that seems right -

They offer a sports car call Tiburon which is very fast -

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story,but i tell it every time they upset me)


>i kinda think they are the way to go right now.  never thought i'd be 
>saying
> that!
>
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:10 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hyundai has some excellent products -
>>
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>> - Original Message -
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>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] (OT) general motors and their old tricks (my old
>> story,but i tell it every time they upset me)
>>
>>
>> > Naw. Honda and Toyota now are in the same position as GM was 20-30 
>> > years
>> > ago.
>> > They have been playing off past successes and starting to cheapen their
>> > vehicles. There's going to be a new leader in a few years, and it won't
>> be
>> > either of them. Wait and see.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 05:05:37PM -0400, Gary Hurst wrote:
>> >> i guess i'm hard headed.  seems everyone of basically normal
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Re: [MBZ] The CDI.... 5k miles later

2008-05-01 Thread John Robbins
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> You should have stopped by on your way thru.

I thought about it, but by the time my plans changed to where I had time 
for it I was about to hit the road and lose internet access.  Stayed 
just below you in Shawnee Saturday night.

> I just cant get past that ugly instrument cluster though.

You get used to it.  The LCD display is *very* nice.  The only problem 
is the graduations on the speedometer make it difficult to maintain 
speed in the city since in the US you technically can't use the right 
half of it.

John


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[MBZ] CDI - 5 kmi later

2008-05-01 Thread Wilton Strickland
I think I could "get past" the "ugly" instrument cluster if I the chance.

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] The CDI.... 5k miles later

2008-05-01 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I just cant get past that ugly instrument cluster though.
>

Ditto.  It is ugly in a particular way---to me, it's cheap and
childish-looking.  Like a toy.  I feel like an old fart saying this,
but I think it is the influence of the video game generation.
Everything electronic is supposed to look like the on-screen displays
in a first-person shooter.  Actually, it's not just electronics---I
notice that many new sporty cars sound not like actual machinery but
like digitized recordings of same---sort of a thin, tinny sound.
(First noticed in 1999 in my boss's new Audi A6.  Next to my 300D it
sounded like a weedwhacker, not to mention looking like it had been
left out in the sun too long and melted.)

Alex Chamberlain
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Re: [MBZ] OK Don has a new car

2008-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
no

John Robbins wrote:
> Are you ever going to approve my message about the CDI that has pictures?
> 
> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>> yea, that is also true
>>
>> John Robbins wrote:
>>> Isn't that what he says every time he sells a nice car?
>>>
>>> Mitch Haley wrote:
 Isn't that what you say every time you sell a 2.5?

 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
> yea, but I loved that car
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Re: [MBZ] The CDI.... 5k miles later

2008-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You should have stopped by on your way thru.

I just cant get past that ugly instrument cluster though.

John Robbins wrote:
> This car can be summed up in one word: Ridiculous
> 
> Ridiculus power, comfort, features, handling, etc.
> 
> I bought the car with 68k miles on it and am up to 73k now, after this 
> weekend it'll be up to 6k miles! The 4k mile trip to Phoenix helped it 
> out a little bit ;)
> 
> The car is an absolute dream on the highway.  As Marshall always said 
> the only difference between 60mph and 100mph is that the trees move by 
> faster.  Applying 1/4 throttle at 70mph will shoot you up to 95mph 
> seemingly instantly, and you only notice it from glancing at the 
> speedometer.
> 
> IMO, all of you that complain about the new cars being full of plastic 
> have never been in one.  The materials used in the car all seem to be of 
> the same type/caliber as all the Mercedes I've been in.  None of that 
> hard plastic junk you find in domestic vehicles.  Everything is padded 
> and elegant.  The fit & finish is first class as well.  Also, all of the 
> small doors (ashtray, etc) and the fold out cup holders unfold quietly 
> and slowly.  For example, on any other car, if you had fold out cup 
> holders they would snap out and make all kinds of noise.  In the CDI you 
> push the release latch and it slowly and elegantly unfolds.  IMO, this 
> is what makes a Mercedes a Mercedes.  There are lots of those little 
> things on this car.
> 
> The handling is typical Mercedes.  Kinda rough at low speeds, but 
> smooths out the faster you go.  45mph or so seems to be the magic speed 
> that it calms down.  In Phoenix it was hardly noticeable since the roads 
> are in such good shape and you drive 45mph+ everywhere. However, in 
> Starkville where the roads aren't so nice and the speed limits are 35mph 
> its a little rough.  No better or worse than the others I have.
> 
> The transmission is also typical Mercedes... its noticeable.  In almost 
> all other (non MB) vehicles I've ridden in the transmission shifts are 
> barely noticeable, but the MBs have always had noticeable shifts. 
> Especially under medium throttle.  The CDI is 10x better than any other 
> MB I've driven, but I expected better.  To be fair, I think part of it 
> is the crazy torque the CDI produces.  At full throttle its like driving 
> a standard.  full power - full power - computer backs off throttle - 
> shift - computer re-applies throttle - full power - etc.  It doesn't get 
> off the throttle completely, but you can notice it.  The transitions are 
> smooth though! :)  And as time passes it won't need re-adjustment 
> constantly (I hate those mechanical adjustments!!!).  It *is* 
> significantly better than any of the mechanical adjustment cars I've 
> driven, and if you get used to the shift points you can make it as 
> smooth as any other car.  I just expected that to be unnecessary.
> 
> Overall, I'm very happy with the car.  It has its few little quirks 
> (like every car on the market), but they are far overshadowed by how fun 
> the car is to drive and how nice it is.
> 
> I've attached some pictures... One picture is of the instrument cluster 
> somewhere on I-40.  The MPG estimate is a little high (actual on that 
> tank was 36.6 I think), but that is still awesome. Especially the way I 
> drive. ;) The other picture is of the car at my Uncle's house.  Its not 
> black though.. its a dark gray that is slightly metallic.  VERY pretty 
> color.
> 
> Bob R, how are you (or your wife) enjoying the E320?
> 
> John
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[MBZ] The CDI.... 5k miles later

2008-05-01 Thread John Robbins
This car can be summed up in one word: Ridiculous

Ridiculus power, comfort, features, handling, etc.

I bought the car with 68k miles on it and am up to 73k now, after this 
weekend it'll be up to 6k miles! The 4k mile trip to Phoenix helped it 
out a little bit ;)

The car is an absolute dream on the highway.  As Marshall always said 
the only difference between 60mph and 100mph is that the trees move by 
faster.  Applying 1/4 throttle at 70mph will shoot you up to 95mph 
seemingly instantly, and you only notice it from glancing at the 
speedometer.

IMO, all of you that complain about the new cars being full of plastic 
have never been in one.  The materials used in the car all seem to be of 
the same type/caliber as all the Mercedes I've been in.  None of that 
hard plastic junk you find in domestic vehicles.  Everything is padded 
and elegant.  The fit & finish is first class as well.  Also, all of the 
small doors (ashtray, etc) and the fold out cup holders unfold quietly 
and slowly.  For example, on any other car, if you had fold out cup 
holders they would snap out and make all kinds of noise.  In the CDI you 
push the release latch and it slowly and elegantly unfolds.  IMO, this 
is what makes a Mercedes a Mercedes.  There are lots of those little 
things on this car.

The handling is typical Mercedes.  Kinda rough at low speeds, but 
smooths out the faster you go.  45mph or so seems to be the magic speed 
that it calms down.  In Phoenix it was hardly noticeable since the roads 
are in such good shape and you drive 45mph+ everywhere. However, in 
Starkville where the roads aren't so nice and the speed limits are 35mph 
its a little rough.  No better or worse than the others I have.

The transmission is also typical Mercedes... its noticeable.  In almost 
all other (non MB) vehicles I've ridden in the transmission shifts are 
barely noticeable, but the MBs have always had noticeable shifts. 
Especially under medium throttle.  The CDI is 10x better than any other 
MB I've driven, but I expected better.  To be fair, I think part of it 
is the crazy torque the CDI produces.  At full throttle its like driving 
a standard.  full power - full power - computer backs off throttle - 
shift - computer re-applies throttle - full power - etc.  It doesn't get 
off the throttle completely, but you can notice it.  The transitions are 
smooth though! :)  And as time passes it won't need re-adjustment 
constantly (I hate those mechanical adjustments!!!).  It *is* 
significantly better than any of the mechanical adjustment cars I've 
driven, and if you get used to the shift points you can make it as 
smooth as any other car.  I just expected that to be unnecessary.

Overall, I'm very happy with the car.  It has its few little quirks 
(like every car on the market), but they are far overshadowed by how fun 
the car is to drive and how nice it is.

I've attached some pictures... One picture is of the instrument cluster 
somewhere on I-40.  The MPG estimate is a little high (actual on that 
tank was 36.6 I think), but that is still awesome. Especially the way I 
drive. ;) The other picture is of the car at my Uncle's house.  Its not 
black though.. its a dark gray that is slightly metallic.  VERY pretty 
color.

Bob R, how are you (or your wife) enjoying the E320?

John
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[MBZ] Ads of possible interest in Houston Chronicle today

2008-05-01 Thread Rich Thomas
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Re: [MBZ] OK Don has a new car

2008-05-01 Thread John Robbins
Are you ever going to approve my message about the CDI that has pictures?

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> yea, that is also true
> 
> John Robbins wrote:
>> Isn't that what he says every time he sells a nice car?
>>
>> Mitch Haley wrote:
>>> Isn't that what you say every time you sell a 2.5?
>>>
>>> "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
 yea, but I loved that car
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Ebay Answer to CL /1968 230

2008-05-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Loren Faeth wrote:
>  There is no telling how many
> times the odometer has rolled over 9 and back to 0.  That is
> still "actual mileage"

The way I look at it, that qualifies for "mileage not actual, as
actual mileage exceeds mechanical limits".

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Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville

2008-05-01 Thread Rusty Cullens
Okie dokie.


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- Original Message - 
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> I've got it in the calendar.  My darling wife won't be with me as she will
> be at work.  She is also deaf and does have a hard time with new folks 
> until
> she learns how their lips move, which is why I prefer a weekday.
> Bill.
>
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> You wanna shoot for Wednesday, 11:30? I'll have my wife Teri with me.
>
>
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bill R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville
>
>
>> Count me in.  I am open all of those days, though I would prefer a
>> weekday.
>> BillR
>>
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>>
>> I am going to be in Fernandina Beach next week from 5/6 to 5/10. Would
>> anyone like to meet for lunch at Singletons as we had discussed earlier
>> last
>> month? Let me know as I have to paint a couple of bedrooms and need to
>> make
>> some plans.
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville

2008-05-01 Thread Bill R
I've got it in the calendar.  My darling wife won't be with me as she will
be at work.  She is also deaf and does have a hard time with new folks until
she learns how their lips move, which is why I prefer a weekday.
Bill.


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You wanna shoot for Wednesday, 11:30? I'll have my wife Teri with me.


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> Count me in.  I am open all of those days, though I would prefer a 
> weekday.
> BillR
>
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville
>
> I am going to be in Fernandina Beach next week from 5/6 to 5/10. Would
> anyone like to meet for lunch at Singletons as we had discussed earlier 
> last
> month? Let me know as I have to paint a couple of bedrooms and need to 
> make
> some plans.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Steam engine hybrid

2008-05-01 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:29:35 -0500, Harry wrote:

> This is being tried by someone on a CAT diesel.  The engine
> heat is converted to steam and stored.  It can then be used
> run half of the combustion engine as a steam engine, alone or
> in combo.

A few years ago I saw a John Deere 70 diesel tractor converted
to steam power. I don't remember what it used as a fuel source.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't wood like the other traction engines
nearby.

-- Philip


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Re: [MBZ] Ebay Answer to CL /1968 230

2008-05-01 Thread Loren Faeth
That would be a perfect car to convert to a 200D 2.4.  That would 
make one very pricey car though.  I have never proven it, but I 
suspect you can put a /8 rear subframe under it and that would make 
it handle well without additional trunk weight.

I would not bet any money on the miles being actual.  most of those 
desert cars look nice but are worn out.  There is no telling how many 
times the odometer has rolled over 9 and back to 0.  That is 
still "actual mileage"

Actually, there should be enough room in there to put in an OM 603 or 
OM606!  That would make the old girl a screamer!

I bought a euro 280SEL to put the twin cam engine in a 111, but I 
will never get it done.  I figured that would be a hotrod of 
sorts.  a sleeper anyway.  Yes, those of us who are happy to drive 
240Ds do have occasional lusts for power.  If for no other reason 
that to be able to pass some of the drivers who sneer at our fuel 
thrifty machines.

At 12:02 PM 5/1/2008, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>Ebay has countered with www.kijiji.com and Free local classifieds -
>
>Here's an overpriced (IMHO) '68 MB 230.
>
>http://phoenix.kijiji.com/c-Cars-vehicles-Classic-cars-1968-Mercedes-
>Benz-230-W0QQAdIdZ44861085
>
>Take care,
>
>Chuck
>Phoenix
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[MBZ] OT: Palm River-Tampa: was bad vibration

2008-05-01 Thread archer
My BIL, a carpenter, moved down from Huntingburg, Indiana and built a house 
near the corner of Maydell Dr and Palm River Rd in 1947.  It was open 
country/farmland then.  I stayed with him while I was working in Tampa for a 
few years in the 1970s.  When they built the big subdivision across the road 
from  his house, my sister knew it was time to move, but he loved his house 
and refused to consider it.  The neighborhood got dangerous, so the family 
chipped in and loaned my sister enough money to buy a house in Zephyrhills. 
BIL, a contrary WW-2 army vet, tried to stay in in his PR house.  He lasted 
about 3 months and finally moved to Zephyrhills too.  They sold the house 
and three rental houses they owned in PR.  I really felt sorry for BIL.  He 
loved his PR home and loved to fish off the PR bridge.  Sad.
Gerry

> You're welcome, Gerry.
> And I *don't* think you would want to be living in
> Palm River these days it's not the nicest part of
> town, unless you're looking for illicit behavior or
> articles.
> Dan

> --- archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I know where that is.  Lived near Palm River many
>> years ago.
>> Thanks, Dan.
>> Gerry
>> - 
> > These are the guys.  They're more into truck and
> heavy equipment stuff,
> > but they did a good job and worked with me to get
> it right.
> >
> >  Florida Powertrain & Hydraulics Inc
> > 6501 Adamo Dr | Tampa, FL 33619
> > PH: (813) 623-6713 | FX: (813) 623-6713 


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Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-05-01 Thread archer


> archer wrote:
>> Glad to know that.  I'll check with him and get the speedometer/odometer 
>> if
>> necessary.  If it was an '85, would the diff be higher or lower ratio?
>
> '83 should be 3.07:1, I think '85 is 2.88:1, which is about 7% taller.
> I believe the ratio is stamped on the housing somewhere. Not sure about
> part numbers.
---
Found it stamped on the lower exposed mating surface for the cover.  It is a 
3.07.  Thanks, Mitch.
Gerry 


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Re: [MBZ] V-8 fuel pump relay needed

2008-05-01 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > not resolder it, because I am not sure my skills are up to it.  I
>  > don't have the heat sinks, desoldering tools and so forth,
>
>  You need nothing but a decent iron, and a modest amount
>  of skill using it.
>

Yeah, but why should any of us soldering-impaired klutzes bother to
try when you can do it so much better, Jim?  ;)(Want to try the
cure on the "combo relay" [controls the wipers, emergency flashers,
and who knows what else] from my POS 300E?)

Alex Chamberlain
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[MBZ] Ebay Answer to CL /1968 230

2008-05-01 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hi All,

Ebay has countered with www.kijiji.com and Free local classifieds -

Here's an overpriced (IMHO) '68 MB 230.

http://phoenix.kijiji.com/c-Cars-vehicles-Classic-cars-1968-Mercedes- 
Benz-230-W0QQAdIdZ44861085

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix

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Re: [MBZ] V-8 fuel pump relay needed

2008-05-01 Thread Curt Raymond

On my '85 190D 2.2l the trick seems to be persistance. Every time I think I've 
figured out a system it fails. Best to just keep wiggling and it'll come out 
eventually.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 10:09:53 -0400
From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] V-8 fuel pump relay needed
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
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>> On this subject, is there any trick to getting the clear cover off a W201 so 
>> I can pull the
 relay?

   
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Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville

2008-05-01 Thread ANGELO GIAIMO
Sorry guys, won't be in town, yet.

Did book our tickets;  Arriving JAX 5/31;  Driving our newly aquired 2001
2WD Tahoe (!)  back north 6/6.

Bill, maybe we can hook up sometime that week at Singletons or one of the
other places I talked about..  Probably have my wife with me, too.

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Re: [MBZ] OK Don has a new car

2008-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, I never seem to learn

Mitch Haley wrote:
> Isn't that what you say every time you sell a 2.5?
> 
> "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
>> yea, but I loved that car
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Re: [MBZ] OK Don has a new car

2008-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, that is also true

John Robbins wrote:
> Isn't that what he says every time he sells a nice car?
> 
> Mitch Haley wrote:
>> Isn't that what you say every time you sell a 2.5?
>>
>> "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
>>> yea, but I loved that car
> 
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Re: [MBZ] V-8 fuel pump relay needed

2008-05-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote:
  You have to squeeze the wire
> bail at the rear to release it from its hinge pins.

I bet that's my problem. 
Hope I can fix the relay. The 16v is a $264 part, probably because
of the rpm limit. If I had to buy one, I'd probably buy one for an
8v or a 12v engine, I never drive redline on 20 year old cars anyway. 
The 8v relay is $101 new from Rusty. 

Thanks,
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville

2008-05-01 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, i probably won't make it

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You'll be in New York. Besides, I can't afford to buy you lunch.
>
>
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville
>
>
> > i'll try to be there if i can
> >
> > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> You wanna shoot for Wednesday, 11:30? I'll have my wife Teri with me.
> >>
> >>
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> >> From: "Bill R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:14 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville
> >>
> >>
> >> > Count me in.  I am open all of those days, though I would prefer a
> >> > weekday.
> >> > BillR
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
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> >> >
> >> > I am going to be in Fernandina Beach next week from 5/6 to 5/10.
> Would
> >> > anyone like to meet for lunch at Singletons as we had discussed
> earlier
> >> > last
> >> > month? Let me know as I have to paint a couple of bedrooms and need
> to
> >> > make
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Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville

2008-05-01 Thread Rusty Cullens
You'll be in New York. Besides, I can't afford to buy you lunch.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:46 AM
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> i'll try to be there if i can
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>
>> You wanna shoot for Wednesday, 11:30? I'll have my wife Teri with me.
>>
>>
>> Rusty Cullens
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>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bill R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville
>>
>>
>> > Count me in.  I am open all of those days, though I would prefer a
>> > weekday.
>> > BillR
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
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>> >
>> > I am going to be in Fernandina Beach next week from 5/6 to 5/10. Would
>> > anyone like to meet for lunch at Singletons as we had discussed earlier
>> > last
>> > month? Let me know as I have to paint a couple of bedrooms and need to
>> > make
>> > some plans.
>> >
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville

2008-05-01 Thread Gary Hurst
i'll try to be there if i can

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You wanna shoot for Wednesday, 11:30? I'll have my wife Teri with me.
>
>
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>
>
> > Count me in.  I am open all of those days, though I would prefer a
> > weekday.
> > BillR
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> >
> > I am going to be in Fernandina Beach next week from 5/6 to 5/10. Would
> > anyone like to meet for lunch at Singletons as we had discussed earlier
> > last
> > month? Let me know as I have to paint a couple of bedrooms and need to
> > make
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] OK Don has a new car

2008-05-01 Thread John Robbins
Isn't that what he says every time he sells a nice car?

Mitch Haley wrote:
> Isn't that what you say every time you sell a 2.5?
> 
> "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] OK Don has a new car

2008-05-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Isn't that what you say every time you sell a 2.5?

"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote:
> 
> yea, but I loved that car

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Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville

2008-05-01 Thread Rusty Cullens
You wanna shoot for Wednesday, 11:30? I'll have my wife Teri with me.


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- Original Message - 
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Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:14 AM
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> Count me in.  I am open all of those days, though I would prefer a 
> weekday.
> BillR
>
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville
>
> I am going to be in Fernandina Beach next week from 5/6 to 5/10. Would
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> last
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Re: [MBZ] V-8 fuel pump relay needed

2008-05-01 Thread Jim Cathey
> not resolder it, because I am not sure my skills are up to it.  I
> don't have the heat sinks, desoldering tools and so forth,

You need nothing but a decent iron, and a modest amount
of skill using it.

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Re: [MBZ] V-8 fuel pump relay needed

2008-05-01 Thread Jim Cathey
> before the relay decided to stay on for good) On this subject, is there
> any trick to getting the clear cover off a W201 so I can pull the 
> relay?

Remove the cover of the black thing in front of it, that lets
it move enough to come off/go on.  You have to squeeze the wire
bail at the rear to release it from its hinge pins.

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Re: [MBZ] OK Don has a new car

2008-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, but I loved that car

OK Don wrote:
> Because you have two more "in the wings" ???
> 
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> hell, why did I let you talk me out of that car?
>>
> 

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Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-05-01 Thread Loren Faeth
Not bad.  I found an $80 used driveshaft, and I am going to try that 
first.  If it shakes too, then I will be able to send one off and not 
have the car down for 2-3 weeks while I send the driveshaft out somewhere.


At 05:37 AM 5/1/2008, you wrote:
>This as 3-4 years ago, but I think they charged me
>around $200.
>
>Dan
>
>
>--- Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Dan,
> >
> > What kind of money did they want to balance a shaft?
> >  I have had
> > prices of $700 to 900, and I am too cheap to spend
> > that much.  900 is
> > getting close to a Rusty price for a new drive shaft
> > I think.
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > These are the guys.  They're more into truck
> > and
> > > > heavy equipment stuff,
> > > > > but they did a good job and worked with me to
> > get
> > > > it right.
> > > > >
> > > > >  Florida Powertrain & Hydraulics Inc
> > > > > 6501 Adamo Dr | Tampa, FL 33619
> > > > > PH: (813) 623-6713 | FX: (813) 623-6713
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Do you recall the name of the drive shaft
> > repair
> > > > place in Tampa, Dan?
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a vibration at speeds over about 55mph
> > on
> > > > my '83 300D which I hope
> > > > > will be cured by replacing a bad axle and
> > noisy
> > > > differential.
> > > > > The differential I got locally was unbolted at
> > the
> > > > flex disc which looks
> > > > > newer than the one on the car. Are there any
> > kind
> > > > of alignment marks or
> > > > > special things to watch out for if I just bolt
> > the
> > > > drive shaft on to the
> > > > > flex disc that's already mounted on the
> > > > differential?
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Gerry
> > > > > '83 300D and 240D
> > > > > --
> > > > > From: "LWB250"
> > > > >> I had a 250LWB, which is a 123 chassis that's
> > > > been stretched (by the
> > > > >> factory) for use as a taxi. This particular
> > > > chassis, due to the length,
> > > > >> has a three piece drive shaft, meaning two
> > flex
> > > > disk, two center
> > > > >> bearings,
> > > > >> and three sections.
> > > > >> I don't recall what precipitated the problem,
> > but
> > > > it developed (or may
> > > > >> have had it when I got it) vibration at
> > certain
> > > > speeds. I found a bum
> > > > >> center bearing and carrier and replaced it.
> > No
> > > > joy. I replaced the
> > > > >> second center bearing and carrier. Still no
> > > > relief. I R&R'ed it, checked
> > > > >> the marks, reassembled, nada.
> > > > >> This took place over the course of several
> > > > months. By the final time I
> > > > >> R&R'ed the whole thing (I was getting really
> > good
> > > > at it!) I found what I
> > > > >> suspected was a bad U joint. Knowing that the
> > > > process for replacing MB U
> > > > >> joints was a very specialized one, I went to
> > my
> > > > local drive shaft repair
> > > > >> house and talked to them about it.
> > > > >> "Heck, there's nothing special about that -
> > we do
> > > > it all the time!"
> > > > >> They had to ship it to their Miami location,
> > > > since the shop here in Tampa
> > > > >> didn't have a balancer that could handle the
> > > > length of my shaft. No
> > > > >> additional charge to do this, just a couple
> > of
> > > > days and it was back.
> > > > > I get the shaft in pieces, load it up, take it
> > > > home and lay it out on the
> > > > > garage floor for reassembly. Guess what? They
> > > > didn't put match marks on
> > > > > the pieces. Damn.
> > > > >> I called them up and was assured that it
> > didn't
> > > > matter, as they had
> > > > >> balanced it as separate sections as well as a
> > > > complete shaft. What? They
> > > > >> also said that if I installed it and it still
> > had
> > > > vibration to bring it
> > > > >> back, they would rebalance it, and send it
> > back
> > > > with match marks.
> > > > >> That's ultimately what happened. A real PITA,
> > but
> > > > after nearly two years
> > > > >> I didn't have this horrendous vibration
> > around 10
> > > > mph that sounded like
> > > > >> it
> > > > >> was going to tear open the floor just above
> > the
> > > > second center bearing.
> > > > >> I still have a box of the locknuts for the
> > flex
> > > > disk bolts as a
> > > > >> reminder
> > > > >> Dan
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] V-8 fuel pump relay needed

2008-05-01 Thread Loren Faeth
Maybe all I need then is the relay.  Last fall when this problem 
first surfaced, someone on the list suggested that over 5A meant the 
fuel pump was bad, and a draw over 5 A. would fry the relay.  I was 
working from that.  I already ordered the FP, so I will test it when 
it gets here.  I kind of expected the used FP I ordered to draw the 
same current.

I see no signs of damage in the relay.  Nothing looks cooked and the 
points are so small I cant see if they are damaged.  I will probably 
not resolder it, because I am not sure my skills are up to it.  I 
don't have the heat sinks, desoldering tools and so forth, so i would 
likely fry something.

This relay is labelled.  I have seen many instances where one 
electronic component was labelled and another was not.  Just depends 
on the supplier as far as I can tell.  MB does not seem to require a 
part number.

I had often wondered about the banana plugs but never tried it.  I 
was trying to figure out how to measure amps when I remembered this 
old lab equipment.  I use the cabinet for tools, but I never removed 
the voltmeter and ammeter.  It also has a huge old variac built in. I 
always thought it would be good to have one, but never have put it to 
use.  Never found an application where it was needed.

At 08:56 AM 5/1/2008, you wrote:
> > I am in need of a good fuel pump relay pn: 001 545 53 05
> > ...for 85 380SL... the fuel pump draws between 5 and 9 amps
> > depending on engine on/off and the length of time it has been
> > running.  5 A. with engine off.
>
>That's about what mine draws.  What's wrong with your relay?
>The high current could have cooked it, but sometimes the extra
>heat only ruins the solder joints, which can be refreshed.
>The relay is easily opened.  New ones are something like $150,
>so it's usually well worth whipping it with an iron.  I did mine,
>and it started working properly after a resoldering.  You could
>resolder it and burnish the relay contacts and see what happens.
>
>Interestingly, nowhere on my relay, supposedly a 000 545 36 05,
>is its Mercedes part number.  Was yours labeled?
>
> > Haven't been able to find a used FP relay so for.
>
>They seem to fail enough that it keeps the supply of good
>used parts down.  Probably doesn't help that the 380 SL
>used four different relays over its production life.
>
> > banana plugs fit perfectly into the 30 and 86 holes
>
>Excellent idea with the banana plugs.  I should have tried
>that, I have some.  (I ended up making a cable with a switch
>and two extra harness male pins and some wire.)
>
>-- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville

2008-05-01 Thread Bill R
Count me in.  I am open all of those days, though I would prefer a weekday.
BillR

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Subject: [MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville

I am going to be in Fernandina Beach next week from 5/6 to 5/10. Would
anyone like to meet for lunch at Singletons as we had discussed earlier last
month? Let me know as I have to paint a couple of bedrooms and need to make
some plans.


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Re: [MBZ] V-8 fuel pump relay needed

2008-05-01 Thread Mitch Haley
> > banana plugs fit perfectly into the 30 and 86 holes

Now we're talking. I used to keep a 2" chunk of 14ga house wire in the fuse
box on all Saab 99s. A simple free spare part to have handy in case the
rpm sensing fuel pump relay went bad. Two banana plugs takes the cost
out of the "free" category, but it beats walking, especially in my 16v
which shut down on me about 50 times last year. (it always restarted, I
could usually turn the key off for two seconds, turn it back to on,
and continue on my way, but sometimes it happened two or three times
before the relay decided to stay on for good) On this subject, is there
any trick to getting the clear cover off a W201 so I can pull the relay?

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Re: [MBZ] OT Steam engine hybrid

2008-05-01 Thread Rich Thomas
I could be misremembering, but I seem to recall it was something exotic, 
other than a Stanley.  Not that it really matters I guess, other than my 
brain farts.

--R

Curt Raymond wrote:
> BTTT! It was a Stanley that tried to kill him.
> The Doble has a sparkplug for ignition.
> The video on Jay's website is EXCELLENT. Amazing car.
>
> -Curt
>
>
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:43:02 -0500
> From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Steam engine hybrid
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
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>
> Jay Leno has one of those.  There was a show about it, he about singed 
> his face lighting the thing off -- it uses gasoline and you have to 
> stick a long match in it to start the fire.  But it did warm up very 
> fast and move off quickly, seemed to have plenty of torque/power for 
> acceleration and speed.  I recall him saying they had to build a new 
> boiler for it as the original was completely shot.  It was not too big,
>  
> maybe like half a garbage can size.
>
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] V-8 fuel pump relay needed

2008-05-01 Thread Jim Cathey
> I am in need of a good fuel pump relay pn: 001 545 53 05
> ...for 85 380SL... the fuel pump draws between 5 and 9 amps
> depending on engine on/off and the length of time it has been
> running.  5 A. with engine off.

That's about what mine draws.  What's wrong with your relay?
The high current could have cooked it, but sometimes the extra
heat only ruins the solder joints, which can be refreshed.
The relay is easily opened.  New ones are something like $150,
so it's usually well worth whipping it with an iron.  I did mine,
and it started working properly after a resoldering.  You could
resolder it and burnish the relay contacts and see what happens.

Interestingly, nowhere on my relay, supposedly a 000 545 36 05,
is its Mercedes part number.  Was yours labeled?

> Haven't been able to find a used FP relay so for.

They seem to fail enough that it keeps the supply of good
used parts down.  Probably doesn't help that the 380 SL
used four different relays over its production life.

> banana plugs fit perfectly into the 30 and 86 holes

Excellent idea with the banana plugs.  I should have tried
that, I have some.  (I ended up making a cable with a switch
and two extra harness male pins and some wire.)

-- Jim


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[MBZ] O/T lunch in Jacksonville

2008-05-01 Thread Rusty Cullens
I am going to be in Fernandina Beach next week from 5/6 to 5/10. Would anyone 
like to meet for lunch at Singletons as we had discussed earlier last month? 
Let me know as I have to paint a couple of bedrooms and need to make some plans.


Rusty Cullens
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Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-05-01 Thread Jim Cathey
> What kind of money did they want to balance a shaft?  I have had
> prices of $700 to 900, and I am too cheap to spend that much.

I seem to recall that the outfit in Portland that did my 560 SL's
U-joint, with balancing, was somewhere in the $200-300 range.
(It was subcontracted by the shop that replaced the center
bearing and support.)  The entire job, all labor included,
plus shipping back and forth to Portland was less than your
numbers.  Around 1999.

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Re: [MBZ] Needs B2?

2008-05-01 Thread Jim Cathey
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/659755765.html
> 1991 2.5 goes only in reverse

That's my kind of deal!  I only hope one comes along some
time when getting one wouldn't be fatal.

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Re: [MBZ] OK Don has a new car

2008-05-01 Thread OK Don
Because you have two more "in the wings" ???

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hell, why did I let you talk me out of that car?
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT Steam engine hybrid

2008-05-01 Thread Curt Raymond

BTTT! It was a Stanley that tried to kill him.
The Doble has a sparkplug for ignition.
The video on Jay's website is EXCELLENT. Amazing car.

-Curt


Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:43:02 -0500
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To: Mercedes Discussion List 
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Jay Leno has one of those.  There was a show about it, he about singed 
his face lighting the thing off -- it uses gasoline and you have to 
stick a long match in it to start the fire.  But it did warm up very 
fast and move off quickly, seemed to have plenty of torque/power for 
acceleration and speed.  I recall him saying they had to build a new 
boiler for it as the original was completely shot.  It was not too big,
 
maybe like half a garbage can size.

--R

   
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[MBZ] Steam cars

2008-05-01 Thread archer
Anyone interested in steam cars might want to look at this link.  Saab and 
VW both built steam cars fairly recently.
Gerry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_car#Saab_steam_car 


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Re: [MBZ] Looks like a 1958 300s

2008-05-01 Thread LWB250
Grossly overpriced and poorly maintained Ponton.

A true POC with the seat covers, and worth well below
the asking price.

Dan


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> 
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Re: [MBZ] bad vibration

2008-05-01 Thread LWB250
This as 3-4 years ago, but I think they charged me
around $200.

Dan


--- Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dan,
> 
> What kind of money did they want to balance a shaft?
>  I have had 
> prices of $700 to 900, and I am too cheap to spend
> that much.  900 is 
> getting close to a Rusty price for a new drive shaft
> I think.
> 
> 
> 
> > > > These are the guys.  They're more into truck
> and
> > > heavy equipment stuff,
> > > > but they did a good job and worked with me to
> get
> > > it right.
> > > >
> > > >  Florida Powertrain & Hydraulics Inc
> > > > 6501 Adamo Dr | Tampa, FL 33619
> > > > PH: (813) 623-6713 | FX: (813) 623-6713
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Do you recall the name of the drive shaft
> repair
> > > place in Tampa, Dan?
> > > >
> > > > I have a vibration at speeds over about 55mph
> on
> > > my '83 300D which I hope
> > > > will be cured by replacing a bad axle and
> noisy
> > > differential.
> > > > The differential I got locally was unbolted at
> the
> > > flex disc which looks
> > > > newer than the one on the car. Are there any
> kind
> > > of alignment marks or
> > > > special things to watch out for if I just bolt
> the
> > > drive shaft on to the
> > > > flex disc that's already mounted on the
> > > differential?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Gerry
> > > > '83 300D and 240D
> > > > --
> > > > From: "LWB250"
> > > >> I had a 250LWB, which is a 123 chassis that's
> > > been stretched (by the
> > > >> factory) for use as a taxi. This particular
> > > chassis, due to the length,
> > > >> has a three piece drive shaft, meaning two
> flex
> > > disk, two center
> > > >> bearings,
> > > >> and three sections.
> > > >> I don't recall what precipitated the problem,
> but
> > > it developed (or may
> > > >> have had it when I got it) vibration at
> certain
> > > speeds. I found a bum
> > > >> center bearing and carrier and replaced it.
> No
> > > joy. I replaced the
> > > >> second center bearing and carrier. Still no
> > > relief. I R&R'ed it, checked
> > > >> the marks, reassembled, nada.
> > > >> This took place over the course of several
> > > months. By the final time I
> > > >> R&R'ed the whole thing (I was getting really
> good
> > > at it!) I found what I
> > > >> suspected was a bad U joint. Knowing that the
> > > process for replacing MB U
> > > >> joints was a very specialized one, I went to
> my
> > > local drive shaft repair
> > > >> house and talked to them about it.
> > > >> "Heck, there's nothing special about that -
> we do
> > > it all the time!"
> > > >> They had to ship it to their Miami location,
> > > since the shop here in Tampa
> > > >> didn't have a balancer that could handle the
> > > length of my shaft. No
> > > >> additional charge to do this, just a couple
> of
> > > days and it was back.
> > > > I get the shaft in pieces, load it up, take it
> > > home and lay it out on the
> > > > garage floor for reassembly. Guess what? They
> > > didn't put match marks on
> > > > the pieces. Damn.
> > > >> I called them up and was assured that it
> didn't
> > > matter, as they had
> > > >> balanced it as separate sections as well as a
> > > complete shaft. What? They
> > > >> also said that if I installed it and it still
> had
> > > vibration to bring it
> > > >> back, they would rebalance it, and send it
> back
> > > with match marks.
> > > >> That's ultimately what happened. A real PITA,
> but
> > > after nearly two years
> > > >> I didn't have this horrendous vibration
> around 10
> > > mph that sounded like
> > > >> it
> > > >> was going to tear open the floor just above
> the
> > > second center bearing.
> > > >> I still have a box of the locknuts for the
> flex
> > > disk bolts as a
> > > >> reminder
> > > >> Dan
> > >
> > >
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