Re: [MBZ] AC and ACC in 124
My current 87 300D has at least 300,000 -- odommeter broke at 236,000 about five years ago, estimated to have 60,000 additional miles before I got it, and I've put 12,000 on it since last September, so I'm guessing 310,000 or so. A bit more blowby that I like (my old one had none at all at idle) and needs a few odds and ends, but runs pretty good for the milage! Peter On Jul 21, 2008, at 10:36 PM, OK Don wrote: Yup - but it sure doesn't act it's 'age. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, did you say there are 325 kmi on your 124? Wow! Mine has a way to go, then, doesn't it? Wilton -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak on CB750
Greg - You heard right. There is an upgraded head gasket kit available that will take care of the problem. The leak is around the knock pin (alignment dowel pin) at the oil passage from the cylinder to cylinder head interface. The new style gasket incorporates a rubber seal that does a better job of sealing as the parts expand and contract. I was the service manager at a local Honda M/C dealer in those years and remember this campaign well. They had made some manufacturing change in this time period that often caused leaking during warranty period requiring RR of head gasket under warranty. There were a number of these and Honda went through a few iterations of the head gasket before they arrived on a fix. It's been way too many years to remember all that transpired. I seem to remember the 500cc 4s having this to about the same time. Barry Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:50:29 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Greg R. Buttry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oil leak on CB750 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --=_NextPart_000_001A_01C8E995.A41249C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a 1971 Honda CB750. It is leaking between the head and cylinder = on the left side. Does not leak much, just enough to get the fins on = #1 cylinder oiling and maybe some oil blow underneath on a long ride. I = have been told that these bikes or notorious for this. Is it a major = deal to repair? I assume no stop leak can not be used. Greg B ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So what happens?
Allan Streib wrote: Probably a bigger problem than the lease returns is the unsold inventory of new trucks and big SUVs that they probably would have trouble giving away with current fuel prices, much less selling for a profit. Seems like a lister mentioned a friend offering $4k for a wondertruck SUV (Excursion, Escalate, something like that) that had been marked down to $8k and having his offer accepted without hesitation. If you need a work truck, want luxury interior, and don't need an open pickup it's a buyer's market out there. Nothing wrong with throwing a gas engine compressor, framing nailers, and other construction stuff in the back of a Navigator if you paid $4k for it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] these cars end today and are selling cheap
Steve MacSween wrote: Dealers (I mean new car dealerships) here are bringing up very new, used cars from the U.S. and selling them here in Canada for dirt cheap. Do the buyers know the odometers read in miles? The recent changes in exchange rates must have had some impact on US-Canadian trade. Retail prices have gone up down here, but nowhere near amount that the Canadian dollar has gone up against the USD. Imagine a used car worth $10k US. When the exchange rate was 3:2, that car might have sold for $17-18k in Canada. Now imagine the exchange rate going to 1:1, and that car being worth $11k retail in USA. You can pick it up in Detroit or Grand Rapids for $8k at a dealer auction, sell it in Windsor for $11k, and not make much money, or you can sell it for $14k, undercutting the local market and make a lot of money. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC and ACC in 124
No - this is the '92 I ought from Kaleb. I have a spare one now. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok Don wrote: Good ideas -- thanks. At 325,000 miles, I suspect that the condensor and radiator could be rather dirty, . . Is this my old car? It can't be. It only had 250,000 (or so) on it, when I sold it. Have you really put 75,000 miles on it already? Donald H. Snook -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So what happens?
Thats my friend Seth and his Expedition. He got a nice deal, it gets 12mpg but is never less than 50% full of video cameras, lighting kits, speakers and such. -Curt Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:22:43 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] So what happens? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Allan Streib wrote: Probably a bigger problem than the lease returns is the unsold inventory of new trucks and big SUVs that they probably would have trouble giving away with current fuel prices, much less selling for a profit. Seems like a lister mentioned a friend offering $4k for a wondertruck SUV (Excursion, Escalate, something like that) that had been marked down to $8k and having his offer accepted without hesitation. If you need a work truck, want luxury interior, and don't need an open pickup it's a buyer's market out there. Nothing wrong with throwing a gas engine compressor, framing nailers, and other construction stuff in the back of a Navigator if you paid $4k for it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 50 MPG ???
yep My 84 Escort Diesel got 50 without turbo. The 83 Quantum will do 45 mpg and the Wascal Wabbit (79) was in the 45-50 mpg range. No GPS, no built in TV/DVD player, no 10 speaker superstereo system with a 20 lb amp in the back. no luxury accessories. No puffed up plastic interior. Each did have a 2 lb radio with 2 speakers, I think the Escort actually had 4 speakers. None had a slushbox transmission. The first 2 had 5 speeds and the Wabbit I think was a 4 spd. At 10:49 PM 7/21/2008, you wrote: well before reading the article I would say its because even though technology has improved that you would think would improve mileage, but instead power has improved and cars are not as basic anymore and weigh more. If they would have kept the same sort of HP and features, weight would be less and mileage probably would have gone way up. OK Don wrote: This article addresses why cars don't get 50mpg today - http://www.newsweek.com/id/130439/page/1 Makes me wonder what a 601 drive train in a 2000 lb car would get? A 190D 2.2 weighs 2700 lbs., and is reportd to get up to 40 mpg. If you trim a lot of weight off, it should do much better. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Lawyers and the price of oil
Got this recently - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:58 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT - Lawyers and the price of oil NO - they didn't cause the rise, but they might benefit -- May 07, 2008 $200 Oil - Criminal Attorneys Never Had It Better Think back to the second oil embargo. With scarce gas, domestic violence, murders and other nasty crimes surged. The auto has always been America's safety valve and when it was shut off, social tensions blew. As Javier Bias and Chris Flood report in THE FINANCIAL TIMES, analysts predict $200 a barrel oil within the next six to 24 months. No way can most of us afford to blow off steam by jumping into the car and putting miles between ourselves and our lives. Of course, we will turn on each other. That means not only plenty of high-end [murder] business for criminal lawyers. There will be new status for this line of work. Government planners, mental-health clinicians, and religious leaders will be pleading for input from criminal attorneys on how to deter this violence. Just as in war, big names can be made fast. It just won't matter if lawyers, as long as they're in criminal, graduate from a second- third- or fourth-tier school. They'll have more work than they can handle. http://lawandmore.typepad.com/law_and_more/2008/05/200-oil---crimi.html -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 50 MPG ???
Terrible eh? The acceleration of my 220d suits me just fine. It could pull the hills a bit better..I wonder if it would like propane injection? Mike -Original Message- Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:10:18 am To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 50 MPG ??? On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:49:24 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well before reading the article I would say its because even though technology has improved that you would think would improve mileage, but instead power has improved and cars are not as basic anymore and weigh more. If they would have kept the same sort of HP and features, weight would be less and mileage probably would have gone way up. Going zero to 60 in 15 seconds doesn't fit the average American consumers idea of mobility today, says Reinert. That's too doggy. Guess the 240D never was really popular ... (and that the average American consumer's idea of mobility today needs to be re-calibrated). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Ford Late Model Ignition Question
Very similar to the M104 coils that sit right on top of the plugs in one of the worst environments for elctrical stuff you can imagine. Yes, the coils will fail from time to time, though it's more often the connectors that go bad. Does the Frod have a short connector piece that goes between the plug and the coil like the Mercedes? That's one of the M104 trouble spots. Many people replace the plug wires and forget about this part. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 7/21/08, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My experience is that it's not uncommon at all for individual coils to fail. Happened to my F150, and also to a friend's Expedition. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Calculate your theoretical max MPG
http://unwiredtools.com/utcoastdown.asp This isn't the max MPG for your engine... this is the max for your car. Not sure what variables he uses for HP to MPG, but the HP information is still pretty valuable. Will have to do this in the CDI sometime. I know that it goes from 80-65 very slowly... (Hello Mr. Officer!). John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Foam-free AC hose
Playing with my new 1983 300TD, I discovered a couple glitches. 1. The insulating foam is completely missing from the metal AC pipe that cuts across horizontally in front of the valve cover. Is it possible to get a replacement cladding to keep the line cool? It would have to be able to withstand high engine temperatures, of course. 2 I was unhappy because the AT shifted harshly (slingshot effect) and clunked (rear axle noise) into fourth, and then again when stopping the car it clunked into first. My tech adjusted the vacuum so it stopped clunking and shifted smoothly, except now it is flaring between 2nd and 3rd and 3rd and 4th gears. I traded one problem for another. What's the fix? 1983 300TD (blue) hope to sell soon New 1983 300TF (white, 318 K miles) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Foam-free AC hose
Could be the modulator is adjust to produce too high pressures. The adjust these correctly takes a combination of the right vacuum to the modulator, and the modulator adjusted to produce the right fluid pressures based on that vacuum. I've seen two separate cases where and excessive fluid pressures lead to various clunks on gear changes. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 7/22/08, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Playing with my new 1983 300TD, I discovered a couple glitches. 1. The insulating foam is completely missing from the metal AC pipe that cuts across horizontally in front of the valve cover. Is it possible to get a replacement cladding to keep the line cool? It would have to be able to withstand high engine temperatures, of course. 2 I was unhappy because the AT shifted harshly (slingshot effect) and clunked (rear axle noise) into fourth, and then again when stopping the car it clunked into first. My tech adjusted the vacuum so it stopped clunking and shifted smoothly, except now it is flaring between 2nd and 3rd and 3rd and 4th gears. I traded one problem for another. What's the fix? 1983 300TD (blue) hope to sell soon New 1983 300TF (white, 318 K miles) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Foam-free AC hose
I should really proofread before hitting send... To adjust these correctly... ...two cases where an excessive fluid... On 7/22/08, Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The adjust these correctly takes a combination of the right vacuum to the modulator, and the modulator adjusted to produce the right fluid pressures based on that vacuum. I've seen two separate cases where and excessive fluid pressures lead to various clunks on gear changes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC and ACC in 124
OK Don wrote: Good ideas -- thanks. At 325,000 miles, I suspect that the condensor and radiator could be rather dirty, though it never gets up to 80C water temp -- (a new t-stat is waiting to be installed). No, the aux fan never turned on. Guess I need to learn where all the ACC parts are in the 124 --- FWIW, the Aux water pump is located underneath the windshield washer reservoir. One other new observation - I parked in a dark parking garage today, and noticed that when I step on the brake, the lights in the center console flicker on and off - the ones illuminating the shifter positions and window switches. No, the headlights were ont on --- strange! Mine does this too! Its probably a bad ground near the instrument cluster... My ACC works correctly though so its probably not related to your ACC problem at least. :) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Foam-free AC hose
To see if the accumulator (on the trans) is causing this, disconnect the vacuum line going to the accumulator.? Road test.? Each shift should come with a bang as you are simulating WOT.? If this is this true, you can adjust shift firmness to your liking. If you are happy with the speeds at which each gear changes, you can firm up the shifts by adjusting at the accumulator on the transmission.? Take the vacuum cap off and turn the screw clockwise no more than 1/8 of a turn, reconnect the vacuum, then road test.? It doesn't take much. ALWAYS make a reference mark and keep notes so you can get back to where you started. Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 7:16 am Subject: [MBZ] Foam-free AC hose Playing with my new 1983 300TD, I discovered a couple glitches. 1. The insulating foam is completely missing from the metal AC pipe that cuts across horizontally in front of the valve cover. Is it possible to get a replacement cladding to keep the line cool? It would have to be able to withstand high engine temperatures, of course. 2 I was unhappy because the AT shifted harshly (slingshot effect) and clunked (rear axle noise) into fourth, and then again when stopping the car it clunked into first. My tech adjusted the vacuum so it stopped clunking and shifted smoothly, except now it is flaring between 2nd and 3rd and 3rd and 4th gears. I traded one problem for another. What's the fix? 1983 300TD (blue) hope to sell soon New 1983 300TF (white, 318 K miles) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
I think I know the results of this survey based on the audience. But, we will see anyway. I am selling my $500 Kaleb car Buick (for $1200) this week, and I need to find a car. I just pay cash and drive them for 6 months to a year. Kaleb has a beater 86 300E which he is fixing up right now and will be selling cheap. I haven't seen the car, yet. I am sure it is decent (perhaps a little rough, but it will be cheap). So, here are my options: 1986 Mercedes 300E (has a few dents and dings) - don't know the mileage yet. 1998 Ford Taurus - boring, but reliable workhorse of a car. Very good shape with service records. 140,000 miles 1993 Cadillac Sedan Deville - perfect shape. Owned by 75 year old man who only had it worked on at the Cadillac Dealer - service records 106,000 miles 1996 Volvo 850 142,000 miles very nice looking car. NO service records 1998 Chevy Monte Carlo 3.1 V6 (pretty good engine usually long life 250,000 plus). 156,000 miles 1995 Cadillac SLS only 90K miles -- very good shape, but Northstar engine can have VERY expensive midcase oil leak. 1998-2000 Ford Crown Victoria - government fleet cars from the state of Kansas. NOT police cars, but other government use. Any other suggestions welcome. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
Don, Just ask yourself what Ron Paul would drive as you indicated that political candidates should be measured by the cars they own as should attorneys as well. On 7/22/08, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I know the results of this survey based on the audience. But, we will see anyway. I am selling my $500 Kaleb car Buick (for $1200) this week, and I need to find a car. I just pay cash and drive them for 6 months to a year. Kaleb has a beater 86 300E which he is fixing up right now and will be selling cheap. I haven't seen the car, yet. I am sure it is decent (perhaps a little rough, but it will be cheap). So, here are my options: 1986 Mercedes 300E (has a few dents and dings) - don't know the mileage yet. 1998 Ford Taurus - boring, but reliable workhorse of a car. Very good shape with service records. 140,000 miles 1993 Cadillac Sedan Deville - perfect shape. Owned by 75 year old man who only had it worked on at the Cadillac Dealer - service records 106,000 miles 1996 Volvo 850 142,000 miles very nice looking car. NO service records 1998 Chevy Monte Carlo 3.1 V6 (pretty good engine usually long life 250,000 plus). 156,000 miles 1995 Cadillac SLS only 90K miles -- very good shape, but Northstar engine can have VERY expensive midcase oil leak. 1998-2000 Ford Crown Victoria - government fleet cars from the state of Kansas. NOT police cars, but other government use. Any other suggestions welcome. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
Well, without knowing the prices, it is somewhat difficult. My suggestion is the 93 Caddy if the price is right or perhaps the MB from Kaleb depending on price and condition once you get a look at it. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:16 AM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car. I think I know the results of this survey based on the audience. But, we will see anyway. I am selling my $500 Kaleb car Buick (for $1200) this week, and I need to find a car. I just pay cash and drive them for 6 months to a year. Kaleb has a beater 86 300E which he is fixing up right now and will be selling cheap. I haven't seen the car, yet. I am sure it is decent (perhaps a little rough, but it will be cheap). So, here are my options: 1986 Mercedes 300E (has a few dents and dings) - don't know the mileage yet. 1998 Ford Taurus - boring, but reliable workhorse of a car. Very good shape with service records. 140,000 miles 1993 Cadillac Sedan Deville - perfect shape. Owned by 75 year old man who only had it worked on at the Cadillac Dealer - service records 106,000 miles 1996 Volvo 850 142,000 miles very nice looking car. NO service records 1998 Chevy Monte Carlo 3.1 V6 (pretty good engine usually long life 250,000 plus). 156,000 miles 1995 Cadillac SLS only 90K miles -- very good shape, but Northstar engine can have VERY expensive midcase oil leak. 1998-2000 Ford Crown Victoria - government fleet cars from the state of Kansas. NOT police cars, but other government use. Any other suggestions welcome. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 50 MPG ???
Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: My 84 Escort Diesel got 50 without turbo. I'd love it if Ford brought their Zetec diesel to the USA. http://www.stevelarkins.freeuk.com/ford_focus_tdci_review.htm Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Small diesel engine fuel problem
I keep getting air at the middle injector nut during bleeding. The two outside injectors bled the air and only fuel comes out. This is a 3-cyl Mitsubishi and here is what I have tried. Replaced the delivery valve o-rings twice, once from my Harbor Freight box of o-rings, then I ordered and installed the OEM o-rings. I crack open the middle nut with the engine warm and running and the bubbles never stop. I did a hand pressure blue dye test on the fit between the fuel line and delivery valve and got a solid transfer. I placed the in-put fuel hose in a clear jug and ran the supply pump looking for bubbles and got none. It also passed the supply test of at least 8 oz in 15 seconds, which includes going through the pump filter and the main screw-on filter. I'm not sure if this is a clue or not, but I get very little return fuel. At idle I saw none, but I had left the line off during a test drive and it wet that area by the time I got back. I have ordered delivery valve springs and copper seals for my next try. Does anyone have suggestion on how a steady supply of air could get in? Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC and ACC in 124
At one point the fuel gauge would tick in time with the blinkers Bad ground in the dash pod... -Curt Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:34:34 -0500 From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC and ACC in 124 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed OK Don wrote: Good ideas -- thanks. At 325,000 miles, I suspect that the condensor and radiator could be rather dirty, though it never gets up to 80C water temp -- (a new t-stat is waiting to be installed). No, the aux fan never turned on. Guess I need to learn where all the ACC parts are in the 124 --- FWIW, the Aux water pump is located underneath the windshield washer reservoir. One other new observation - I parked in a dark parking garage today, and noticed that when I step on the brake, the lights in the center console flicker on and off - the ones illuminating the shifter positions and window switches. No, the headlights were ont on --- strange! Mine does this too! Its probably a bad ground near the instrument cluster... My ACC works correctly though so its probably not related to your ACC problem at least. :) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Foam-free AC hose
Thanks for your suggestions. Although I am underqualified to act on your advice, I do appreciate knowing that the problem is solvable, rather than a symptom of a dying transmission On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To see if the accumulator (on the trans) is causing this, disconnect the vacuum line going to the accumulator.? Road test.? Each shift should come with a bang as you are simulating WOT.? If this is this true, you can adjust shift firmness to your liking. If you are happy with the speeds at which each gear changes, you can firm up the shifts by adjusting at the accumulator on the transmission.? Take the vacuum cap off and turn the screw clockwise no more than 1/8 of a turn, reconnect the vacuum, then road test.? It doesn't take much. ALWAYS make a reference mark and keep notes so you can get back to where you started. Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 7:16 am Subject: [MBZ] Foam-free AC hose Playing with my new 1983 300TD, I discovered a couple glitches. 1. The insulating foam is completely missing from the metal AC pipe that cuts across horizontally in front of the valve cover. Is it possible to get a replacement cladding to keep the line cool? It would have to be able to withstand high engine temperatures, of course. 2 I was unhappy because the AT shifted harshly (slingshot effect) and clunked (rear axle noise) into fourth, and then again when stopping the car it clunked into first. My tech adjusted the vacuum so it stopped clunking and shifted smoothly, except now it is flaring between 2nd and 3rd and 3rd and 4th gears. I traded one problem for another. What's the fix? 1983 300TD (blue) hope to sell soon New 1983 300TF (white, 318 K miles) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Ford Late Model Ignition Question
Looks like there is a boot with a spring that goes between the plug and the coil that can be troublesome. I'm totally new to this setup, so I'm trying to gather some information before I tear into one. Thanks! Dan --- On Tue, 7/22/08, Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Ford Late Model Ignition Question To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 10:01 AM Very similar to the M104 coils that sit right on top of the plugs in one of the worst environments for elctrical stuff you can imagine. Yes, the coils will fail from time to time, though it's more often the connectors that go bad. Does the Frod have a short connector piece that goes between the plug and the coil like the Mercedes? That's one of the M104 trouble spots. Many people replace the plug wires and forget about this part. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 7/21/08, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My experience is that it's not uncommon at all for individual coils to fail. Happened to my F150, and also to a friend's Expedition. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
Can't vote without the price for each option. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:36 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, without knowing the prices, it is somewhat difficult. My suggestion is the 93 Caddy if the price is right or perhaps the MB from Kaleb depending on price and condition once you get a look at it. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:16 AM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car. I think I know the results of this survey based on the audience. But, we will see anyway. I am selling my $500 Kaleb car Buick (for $1200) this week, and I need to find a car. I just pay cash and drive them for 6 months to a year. Kaleb has a beater 86 300E which he is fixing up right now and will be selling cheap. I haven't seen the car, yet. I am sure it is decent (perhaps a little rough, but it will be cheap). So, here are my options: 1986 Mercedes 300E (has a few dents and dings) - don't know the mileage yet. 1998 Ford Taurus - boring, but reliable workhorse of a car. Very good shape with service records. 140,000 miles 1993 Cadillac Sedan Deville - perfect shape. Owned by 75 year old man who only had it worked on at the Cadillac Dealer - service records 106,000 miles 1996 Volvo 850 142,000 miles very nice looking car. NO service records 1998 Chevy Monte Carlo 3.1 V6 (pretty good engine usually long life 250,000 plus). 156,000 miles 1995 Cadillac SLS only 90K miles -- very good shape, but Northstar engine can have VERY expensive midcase oil leak. 1998-2000 Ford Crown Victoria - government fleet cars from the state of Kansas. NOT police cars, but other government use. Any other suggestions welcome. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Small diesel engine fuel problem
Leaking lift pump. Peter -Original Message- From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 22, 2008 12:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT Small diesel engine fuel problem I keep getting air at the middle injector nut during bleeding. The two outside injectors bled the air and only fuel comes out. This is a 3-cyl Mitsubishi and here is what I have tried. Replaced the delivery valve o-rings twice, once from my Harbor Freight box of o-rings, then I ordered and installed the OEM o-rings. I crack open the middle nut with the engine warm and running and the bubbles never stop. I did a hand pressure blue dye test on the fit between the fuel line and delivery valve and got a solid transfer. I placed the in-put fuel hose in a clear jug and ran the supply pump looking for bubbles and got none. It also passed the supply test of at least 8 oz in 15 seconds, which includes going through the pump filter and the main screw-on filter. I'm not sure if this is a clue or not, but I get very little return fuel. At idle I saw none, but I had left the line off during a test drive and it wet that area by the time I got back. I have ordered delivery valve springs and copper seals for my next try. Does anyone have suggestion on how a steady supply of air could get in? Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
John Freer wrote: Don, Just ask yourself what Ron Paul would drive as you indicated that political candidates should be measured by the cars they own as should attorneys as well. I thought that Don was the one who made fun of Dr. Paul's car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Small diesel engine fuel problem
Peter wrote Leaking lift pump. Peter, would that be an individual pump for that middle delivery valve? In other words are there three lift pumps? Thanks Harry On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leaking lift pump. Peter -Original Message- From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 22, 2008 12:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT Small diesel engine fuel problem I keep getting air at the middle injector nut during bleeding. The two outside injectors bled the air and only fuel comes out. This is a 3-cyl Mitsubishi and here is what I have tried. Replaced the delivery valve o-rings twice, once from my Harbor Freight box of o-rings, then I ordered and installed the OEM o-rings. I crack open the middle nut with the engine warm and running and the bubbles never stop. I did a hand pressure blue dye test on the fit between the fuel line and delivery valve and got a solid transfer. I placed the in-put fuel hose in a clear jug and ran the supply pump looking for bubbles and got none. It also passed the supply test of at least 8 oz in 15 seconds, which includes going through the pump filter and the main screw-on filter. I'm not sure if this is a clue or not, but I get very little return fuel. At idle I saw none, but I had left the line off during a test drive and it wet that area by the time I got back. I have ordered delivery valve springs and copper seals for my next try. Does anyone have suggestion on how a steady supply of air could get in? Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
My point exactly! On 7/22/08, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Freer wrote: Don, Just ask yourself what Ron Paul would drive as you indicated that political candidates should be measured by the cars they own as should attorneys as well. I thought that Don was the one who made fun of Dr. Paul's car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
Randy wrote: Well, without knowing the prices, it is somewhat difficult. My suggestion is the 93 Caddy if the price is right or perhaps the MB from Kaleb depending on price and condition once you get a look at it. All of the cars will be less than $2500 (some of them $1000 less). I am being purposefully vague because I do not want someone else to swoop in and try to buy the 86 300E before I have had a chance. He didn't send his prices to the whole list - just to me. It might not matter, it might have major problems. Kaleb was going to get the exhaust all put back together and drive it. I am curious, Randy, why you suggested the Cadillac. I thought that one would be laughed at by the list members. ALTHOUGH, if the Kaleb car doesn't work out, the Caddy is probably my first choice. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
John R. wrote: Just ask yourself what Ron Paul would drive as you indicated that political candidates should be measured by the cars they own as should attorneys as well. That is not exactly what I said. I argued that Ron Paul appears to be a loon, and as evidence of that, I pointed out that he drives a 1978 Chevette. That is a little weird. That fact, alone, doesn't make him appear looney, it is the totality of who Ron Paul is that makes me perceive him as a loon. But, what do I know. The people of his congressional district keep re-electing him, so he must be the right guy for their views. Donald H. Snook Still looking for my next car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
Being that Donald is a lawyer, the proper mode of transportation is a paddy wagon. At 12:44 PM 7/22/2008, you wrote: My point exactly! On 7/22/08, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Freer wrote: Don, Just ask yourself what Ron Paul would drive as you indicated that political candidates should be measured by the cars they own as should attorneys as well. I thought that Don was the one who made fun of Dr. Paul's car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Small diesel engine fuel problem
Peter Frederick wrote: Leaking lift pump. And that would show up on only one cylinder? I was thinking delivery valve or injector. One could swap them around, see if the problem moves. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Foam-free AC hose
Anyone have any thoughts about heat resistant foam or cladding for my AC line? On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:22 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your suggestions. Although I am underqualified to act on your advice, I do appreciate knowing that the problem is solvable, rather than a symptom of a dying transmission On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To see if the accumulator (on the trans) is causing this, disconnect the vacuum line going to the accumulator.? Road test.? Each shift should come with a bang as you are simulating WOT.? If this is this true, you can adjust shift firmness to your liking. If you are happy with the speeds at which each gear changes, you can firm up the shifts by adjusting at the accumulator on the transmission.? Take the vacuum cap off and turn the screw clockwise no more than 1/8 of a turn, reconnect the vacuum, then road test.? It doesn't take much. ALWAYS make a reference mark and keep notes so you can get back to where you started. Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 7:16 am Subject: [MBZ] Foam-free AC hose Playing with my new 1983 300TD, I discovered a couple glitches. 1. The insulating foam is completely missing from the metal AC pipe that cuts across horizontally in front of the valve cover. Is it possible to get a replacement cladding to keep the line cool? It would have to be able to withstand high engine temperatures, of course. 2 I was unhappy because the AT shifted harshly (slingshot effect) and clunked (rear axle noise) into fourth, and then again when stopping the car it clunked into first. My tech adjusted the vacuum so it stopped clunking and shifted smoothly, except now it is flaring between 2nd and 3rd and 3rd and 4th gears. I traded one problem for another. What's the fix? 1983 300TD (blue) hope to sell soon New 1983 300TF (white, 318 K miles) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
And you asked this question to the Mercedes group? The answer should be obvious. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 7/22/08 10:19 AM Subject: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car. I think I know the results of this survey based on the audience. But, we will see anyway. I am selling my $500 Kaleb car Buick (for $1200) this week, and I need to find a car. I just pay cash and drive them for 6 months to a year. Kaleb has a beater 86 300E which he is fixing up right now and will be selling cheap. I haven't seen the car, yet. I am sure it is decent (perhaps a little rough, but it will be cheap). So, here are my options: 1986 Mercedes 300E (has a few dents and dings) - don't know the mileage yet. 1998 Ford Taurus - boring, but reliable workhorse of a car. Very good shape with service records. 140,000 miles 1993 Cadillac Sedan Deville - perfect shape. Owned by 75 year old man who only had it worked on at the Cadillac Dealer - service records 106,000 miles 1996 Volvo 850 142,000 miles very nice looking car. NO service records 1998 Chevy Monte Carlo 3.1 V6 (pretty good engine usually long life 250,000 plus). 156,000 miles 1995 Cadillac SLS only 90K miles -- very good shape, but Northstar engine can have VERY expensive midcase oil leak. 1998-2000 Ford Crown Victoria - government fleet cars from the state of Kansas. NOT police cars, but other government use. Any other suggestions welcome. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
Loren Faeth wrote: Being that Donald is a lawyer, the proper mode of transportation is a paddy wagon. Paddy or padded? (I know, wrong Don) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
I know, I saw the response. We have evolved (or devolved) from a Mercedes group to a car group who loves Mercedes. Even I am driving my Jeep Corvette these days and leaving the Mercedes in the driveway. The Jeep is more economical and the Vette is more fun. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Donald Snook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 3:01 PM To: 'Tom Hargrave'; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: RE: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car. The funny thing is at least one person said the Mercedes OR the Cadillac. Donald H. Snook -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:24 PM To: Donald Snook; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: RE: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car. And you asked this question to the Mercedes group? The answer should be obvious. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 7/22/08 10:19 AM Subject: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car. I think I know the results of this survey based on the audience. But, we will see anyway. I am selling my $500 Kaleb car Buick (for $1200) this week, and I need to find a car. I just pay cash and drive them for 6 months to a year. Kaleb has a beater 86 300E which he is fixing up right now and will be selling cheap. I haven't seen the car, yet. I am sure it is decent (perhaps a little rough, but it will be cheap). So, here are my options: 1986 Mercedes 300E (has a few dents and dings) - don't know the mileage yet. 1998 Ford Taurus - boring, but reliable workhorse of a car. Very good shape with service records. 140,000 miles 1993 Cadillac Sedan Deville - perfect shape. Owned by 75 year old man who only had it worked on at the Cadillac Dealer - service records 106,000 miles 1996 Volvo 850 142,000 miles very nice looking car. NO service records 1998 Chevy Monte Carlo 3.1 V6 (pretty good engine usually long life 250,000 plus). 156,000 miles 1995 Cadillac SLS only 90K miles -- very good shape, but Northstar engine can have VERY expensive midcase oil leak. 1998-2000 Ford Crown Victoria - government fleet cars from the state of Kansas. NOT police cars, but other government use. Any other suggestions welcome. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Small diesel engine fuel problem
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: Leaking lift pump. And that would show up on only one cylinder? I was thinking delivery valve or injector. One could swap them around, see if the problem moves. **I'll give the swapping out a try if the new springs and seals fail to fix it. I know I can remove the spring, seal and valve but I'll have to see about the valve seat, I don't want to mix those.** Thanks Harry Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
It sounded the best of the lot based upon your descriptions. Owned by an older fellow who had it serviced regularly if I recall correctly, reasonable miles on it for its age plus it is a Cadillac and therefore likely to be nicer than the Taurus etc. The other Caddy mentioned did not turn me on. My son has a friend who has a similar vehicle and although it is nice, if I were going to go Cadillac, I would prefer the more standard Sedan de Ville. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:08 PM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car. Randy wrote: Well, without knowing the prices, it is somewhat difficult. My suggestion is the 93 Caddy if the price is right or perhaps the MB from Kaleb depending on price and condition once you get a look at it. All of the cars will be less than $2500 (some of them $1000 less). I am being purposefully vague because I do not want someone else to swoop in and try to buy the 86 300E before I have had a chance. He didn't send his prices to the whole list - just to me. It might not matter, it might have major problems. Kaleb was going to get the exhaust all put back together and drive it. I am curious, Randy, why you suggested the Cadillac. I thought that one would be laughed at by the list members. ALTHOUGH, if the Kaleb car doesn't work out, the Caddy is probably my first choice. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
Padded for Wonko At 01:39 PM 7/22/2008, you wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: Being that Donald is a lawyer, the proper mode of transportation is a paddy wagon. Paddy or padded? (I know, wrong Don) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
Well Donald, I think the same. If Kaleb's MB does not work out, buy the big caddy, get a set of mounted longhorn horns, and mount them on the hood! You'd look right at home in Kaleb country! At 03:20 PM 7/22/2008, you wrote: It sounded the best of the lot based upon your descriptions. Owned by an older fellow who had it serviced regularly if I recall correctly, reasonable miles on it for its age plus it is a Cadillac and therefore likely to be nicer than the Taurus etc. The other Caddy mentioned did not turn me on. My son has a friend who has a similar vehicle and although it is nice, if I were going to go Cadillac, I would prefer the more standard Sedan de Ville. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:08 PM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car. Randy wrote: Well, without knowing the prices, it is somewhat difficult. My suggestion is the 93 Caddy if the price is right or perhaps the MB from Kaleb depending on price and condition once you get a look at it. All of the cars will be less than $2500 (some of them $1000 less). I am being purposefully vague because I do not want someone else to swoop in and try to buy the 86 300E before I have had a chance. He didn't send his prices to the whole list - just to me. It might not matter, it might have major problems. Kaleb was going to get the exhaust all put back together and drive it. I am curious, Randy, why you suggested the Cadillac. I thought that one would be laughed at by the list members. ALTHOUGH, if the Kaleb car doesn't work out, the Caddy is probably my first choice. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Small diesel engine fuel problem
Harry Watkins wrote: **I'll give the swapping out a try if the new springs and seals fail to fix it. I know I can remove the spring, seal and valve but I'll have to see about the valve seat, I don't want to mix those.** If you have a couple of spare injector tip seals, it shouldn't take long to swap injectors, then you'll know if you need to keep messing with the pump. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] State cellphone laws
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/ 2008065239_cellphones22m.html On 21 Jul 2008, at 16:59, Mitch Haley wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.ghsa.org/html/stateinfo/laws/cellphone_laws.html Yikes! SillyNoise, Taxachoosits, MissedAgain, NewMehico, o'WHY-o, and PennyVainYa all have laws that 'vary by jurisdiction' concerning the use of cell phones in motor vehicles. Certain things need statewide preemption so they don't switch from legal to illegal and back again as you drive along, and I think this qualifies. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Lawyers and the price of oil
A need for more naturist camps and legalized prostitution. That is a great way to stay occupied, get vitamin D and recreate close to home clay On 21 Jul 2008, at 18:58, OK Don wrote: NO - they didn't cause the rise, but they might benefit -- May 07, 2008 $200 Oil - Criminal Attorneys Never Had It Better Think back to the second oil embargo. With scarce gas, domestic violence, murders and other nasty crimes surged. The auto has always been America's safety valve and when it was shut off, social tensions blew. As Javier Bias and Chris Flood report in THE FINANCIAL TIMES, analysts predict $200 a barrel oil within the next six to 24 months. No way can most of us afford to blow off steam by jumping into the car and putting miles between ourselves and our lives. Of course, we will turn on each other. That means not only plenty of high-end [murder] business for criminal lawyers. There will be new status for this line of work. Government planners, mental-health clinicians, and religious leaders will be pleading for input from criminal attorneys on how to deter this violence. Just as in war, big names can be made fast. It just won't matter if lawyers, as long as they're in criminal, graduate from a second- third- or fourth-tier school. They'll have more work than they can handle. http://lawandmore.typepad.com/law_and_more/2008/05/200-oil--- crimi.html -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chainsaw (safety)
That is why you should wear chain mail socks for chopping wood. Will not stop the contusion, but will decrease chance of lacerations clay On 21 Jul 2008, at 20:10, Tom Hargrave wrote: Axes can be as dangerous. Many years ago, a friend of mine split his right foot from toes to about 1/2 way back with an ax. He was splitting firewood. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chainsaw (safety) There's been a bit of talk of firewood cutting here of late, and as I sat here today, nursing a hole I put in my hand when a wrench slipped this morning, I decided I should spread a few words on chainsaw safety. Most importantly, two hands on the saw at all times, unless the brake is locked, or better yet, turned off. I disobeyed this rule last month and came withing 2-3 inches of a kneecapectomy. As the saw dropped towards my leg, I tightened my grip on the rear handle to control it, which got me full throttle. Fortunately it was just my little 36cc Husqvarna and I managed to arrest its travel onehanded. Secondly, there's personal protection equipment. Trousers or chaps which can stop a chain as quickly as the chain brake, eye protection, ear protection, and if you cut standing timber a hard hat is a necessity. A video for your viewing pleasure. See how that chain goes through meat, ripping and shredding rather than cutting cleanly? Notice that denim is no more impediment than a piece of paper? http://www.lni.wa.gov/Safety/TrainTools/Videos/Library/catalog.asp? VideoID=V 0969 A self serving video put out by the makers of my chaps, that's a Husky 365 they are running full throttle into the chaps. Product #1 is their current six ply chap, #2 and #3 are products they no longer make, #4 looks to me like Stihl, and the blue chaps #5 just about have to be Husqvarna. All chaps stopped the saw quickly, but only #1 stopped it instantly. I went overboard and bought the ten layer chaps intended for use in saw racing competitions. In real life, the contact is less localized than in this test, I've seen examples of real life mishaps with Husky and Stihl chaps that didn't come close to cutting through the chaps. http://www.labonville.com/videos/v2.htm If you buy chaps, IMO they should wrap all the way around the lower leg. Most companies sell both half wrap and full wrap chaps. It seems like the favorite places to cut yourself with a saw are the left thigh or knee and the right calf. BTW, Labonville has 10% off on internet orders, use coupon code 4you at checkout. Turned my $79 Competition chaps into $71 chaps. Stihl chaps seem to be lighter/more flexible than the other brands' kevlar chaps. Some discussion on PPE from a pro cutters' forum: Ouch! http://arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=65835 http://arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=69924 http://arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=71442 Nice pic of a cut in Stihl chaps: http://arboristsite.com/showthread.php?p=803873#post803873 And another: http://arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=63888 http://arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=71964 http://arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=56387 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1564 - Release Date: 7/21/2008 6:42 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1564 - Release Date: 7/21/2008 6:42 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] these cars end today and are selling cheap
Ontario area may be able to get away with it since same sort of cars are made there and shipped south clay On 21 Jul 2008, at 21:00, Steve MacSween wrote: Dealers (I mean new car dealerships) here are bringing up very new, used cars from the U.S. and selling them here in Canada for dirt cheap. For it to reach that stage there must be stockpiles of stuff sitting at the wholesale auctions. Even taking into account the cost of transport and Canadian paperwork, I have seen these selling at 30 percent under comparable Canadian- sourced stock. Mac on 7/21/08 20:57, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea, could be. Im not even selling the used parts I used to. Gary Hurst wrote: or it could be the economy, yeah? On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Used to be sunday was the best as I said. I dont think friday would because alot of people are out. Might try monday. I used to do thursday and it seemed OK. Rick Knoble wrote: I wonder if Sunday is not the night to end them anymore? Maybe i should go back to Thursday or something. There are some Ebay analysis sites that you pay for that can tell you what sells for the most money when, but I figure Friday night is payday for most folks, so that is the best time to end an auction to get the most money. If you are wanting to make sure an item sells, IIRC the best day to end the auction is Monday. Since you are dealing with all US time zones on Ebay I figure around 9PM Central time would be the best time on either day to end an auction. Caveats, YMMV My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http:// www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1565 - Release Date: 7/21/2008 6:36 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1565 - Release Date: 7/21/2008 6:36 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So what happens?
Uncle Sugar purchases them for use in Oil Rich nations as embassy vehicles. Ship them to Iraq or Afghanistan for our boys to drive into combat. clay On 21 Jul 2008, at 21:35, Allan Streib wrote: Probably a bigger problem than the lease returns is the unsold inventory of new trucks and big SUVs that they probably would have trouble giving away with current fuel prices, much less selling for a profit. Allan -- 1983 300D Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is what I am wondering about: what happens as lease returns roll back to GMAC, Chrysler Credit, GE Fleet and so on? The leases were written according to the anticipated residuals, which are now presumably in the toilet. Companies must be taking huge hits when these things roll through the auctions. Yet I've not seen anything reported about it. How long before this turns into a new variety of credit crisis? mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
I would go with old man's caddy too. Was taken care of and has service records so that when you sell, you will be able to retain some value. All the others seem like also rans compared to the caddy or the 300e clay On 22 Jul 2008, at 11:08, Donald Snook wrote: Randy wrote: Well, without knowing the prices, it is somewhat difficult. My suggestion is the 93 Caddy if the price is right or perhaps the MB from Kaleb depending on price and condition once you get a look at it. All of the cars will be less than $2500 (some of them $1000 less). I am being purposefully vague because I do not want someone else to swoop in and try to buy the 86 300E before I have had a chance. He didn't send his prices to the whole list - just to me. It might not matter, it might have major problems. Kaleb was going to get the exhaust all put back together and drive it. I am curious, Randy, why you suggested the Cadillac. I thought that one would be laughed at by the list members. ALTHOUGH, if the Kaleb car doesn't work out, the Caddy is probably my first choice. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Lawyers and the price of oil
Most criminals do not get good paid representation. By this, I mean they are not able to buy the team that OJ had. They get public service defense, pled out and some jail time. Need to do my investing in more jail corporations. Bound to make lots of cash this way. The few criminal defense attorneys making cash here are working with deep pocket clients on large scale crimes. They do take a few pro bono cases for publicity clay On 21 Jul 2008, at 21:06, Donald Snook wrote: Ok Don wrote: That means not only plenty of high-end [murder] business for criminal lawyers. There will be new status for this line of work. Government planners, mental-health clinicians, and religious leaders will be pleading for input from criminal attorneys on how to deter this violence. Just as in war, big names can be made fast. Those damn lawyers will figure out how to make money no matter what! :) Too bad, I don't do any criminal defense work. Tough work, but the good ones are very good and are paid accordingly. It would be malpractice for me to do criminal work. Ok, not really, but I think I will stick with civil litigation. I do defense work, it is just in the civil arena. I have a friend who was just appointed by one of our local federal judges to represent some suspects in a RICO case. The trial is scheduled to last FOUR MONTHS! Yikes. Donald H. Snook Looking for my next car ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Lawyers and the price of oil
Naturalists take all the fun out of nudity, plus most of them you wouldn't want to see that way anyhow. Taking the extreme profit out of lots of social issues [such as prostitution] would do more with one signature than all of the 'anti-drug' and organized crime fighting we have ever done. Even a hint of that would sink any politician though. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Lawyers and the price of oil A need for more naturist camps and legalized prostitution. That is a great way to stay occupied, get vitamin D and recreate close to home clay On 21 Jul 2008, at 18:58, OK Don wrote: NO - they didn't cause the rise, but they might benefit -- May 07, 2008 $200 Oil - Criminal Attorneys Never Had It Better Think back to the second oil embargo. With scarce gas, domestic violence, murders and other nasty crimes surged. The auto has always been America's safety valve and when it was shut off, social tensions blew. As Javier Bias and Chris Flood report in THE FINANCIAL TIMES, analysts predict $200 a barrel oil within the next six to 24 months. No way can most of us afford to blow off steam by jumping into the car and putting miles between ourselves and our lives. Of course, we will turn on each other. That means not only plenty of high-end [murder] business for criminal lawyers. There will be new status for this line of work. Government planners, mental-health clinicians, and religious leaders will be pleading for input from criminal attorneys on how to deter this violence. Just as in war, big names can be made fast. It just won't matter if lawyers, as long as they're in criminal, graduate from a second- third- or fourth-tier school. They'll have more work than they can handle. http://lawandmore.typepad.com/law_and_more/2008/05/200-oil--- crimi.html -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Lawyers and the price of oil
I might need to run on the boobs and beer platform. Bring some fun to the unenlightened liberals in Seattle. Dang nanny state with their need to monitor and control everything. If they would allow the adults to do as adults are wont, we would be in better condition with fewer people needing to suckle at the teet of welfare programs. Girls would be employed and able to provide for their kids by getting exercise and adding to the tax base instead of draining state coffers and moping in sweatpants in front of the TV all day. Tax the recreational medications so that we can cover health care for underinsured people. That would more than balance budgets in most counties. Meth and pot operations would be under revenue enforcement and not wasting sheriff staff time. Even crack whores would become tax paying citizens. clay On 22 Jul 2008, at 14:26, Bill R wrote: Naturalists take all the fun out of nudity, plus most of them you wouldn't want to see that way anyhow. Taking the extreme profit out of lots of social issues [such as prostitution] would do more with one signature than all of the 'anti-drug' and organized crime fighting we have ever done. Even a hint of that would sink any politician though. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Lawyers and the price of oil A need for more naturist camps and legalized prostitution. That is a great way to stay occupied, get vitamin D and recreate close to home clay On 21 Jul 2008, at 18:58, OK Don wrote: NO - they didn't cause the rise, but they might benefit -- May 07, 2008 $200 Oil - Criminal Attorneys Never Had It Better Think back to the second oil embargo. With scarce gas, domestic violence, murders and other nasty crimes surged. The auto has always been America's safety valve and when it was shut off, social tensions blew. As Javier Bias and Chris Flood report in THE FINANCIAL TIMES, analysts predict $200 a barrel oil within the next six to 24 months. No way can most of us afford to blow off steam by jumping into the car and putting miles between ourselves and our lives. Of course, we will turn on each other. That means not only plenty of high-end [murder] business for criminal lawyers. There will be new status for this line of work. Government planners, mental-health clinicians, and religious leaders will be pleading for input from criminal attorneys on how to deter this violence. Just as in war, big names can be made fast. It just won't matter if lawyers, as long as they're in criminal, graduate from a second- third- or fourth-tier school. They'll have more work than they can handle. http://lawandmore.typepad.com/law_and_more/2008/05/200-oil--- crimi.html -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Small diesel engine fuel problem
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have a couple of spare injector tip seals, it shouldn't take long to swap injectors, then you'll know if you need to keep messing with the pump. ** Good point Mitch, you're right. I have the IP off now, so one at a time (between testing), I'll install the new delivery valve parts, redo the banjo fitting, try gravity feed fuel and switch injectors before going back to the pump.** Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chainsaw (safety)
Redghost wrote: That is why you should wear chain mail socks for chopping wood. Will not stop the contusion, but will decrease chance of lacerations http://www.labonville.com/shop/pc/viewCat_h.asp?idCategory=41 http://www.labonville.com/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=41idproduct=81 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
1986 Mercedes 300E (has a few dents and dings) - don't know the mileage yet. or 1993 Cadillac Sedan Deville - perfect shape. Owned by 75 year old man who only had it worked on at the Cadillac Dealer - service records 106,000 miles I was going to post way earlier but I thought I would be laughed at for picking the Caddy. Low miles with service records is a big plus. Go to your local library and do an all data search for Technical Service Bulletins or at your former employer (GM shop). It is also a plus that you were a service manager at a GM shop, you have a better feel for GM cars. Caveats, YMMV My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
Loren wrote: Well Donald, I think the same. If Kaleb's MB does not work out, buy the big caddy, get a set of mounted longhorn horns, and mount them on the hood! You'd look right at home in Kaleb country! Ok, that's several votes for the 93 Cadillac - if the 300E doesn't work out. I just drove it - I got out of a hearing later than I thought and I didn't really want to go back to the pile of work on my desk, so I drove over and took it for a spin. Now, the guy said he had to leave at 5:30, so I only got to drive it for 20 minutes or so. It was in perfect shape. Lots of power, no weird noises, no warning lights, no rust, great paint, spotless interior, etc. Even the power antenna still worked. I will wait have to wait and see what happens with the Kaleb car. My biggest concern with the Cadillac is the 4.9 V8. With ever increasing gas prices, will the bottom of the market drop out on these cars and will everyone be afraid of anything that says V8? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
The MB that Kaleb has is a gasser isn't it? Not likely to be all that much better than the Caddy on fuel. Now, if only it was a diesel! Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:29 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car. Loren wrote: Well Donald, I think the same. If Kaleb's MB does not work out, buy the big caddy, get a set of mounted longhorn horns, and mount them on the hood! You'd look right at home in Kaleb country! Ok, that's several votes for the 93 Cadillac - if the 300E doesn't work out. I just drove it - I got out of a hearing later than I thought and I didn't really want to go back to the pile of work on my desk, so I drove over and took it for a spin. Now, the guy said he had to leave at 5:30, so I only got to drive it for 20 minutes or so. It was in perfect shape. Lots of power, no weird noises, no warning lights, no rust, great paint, spotless interior, etc. Even the power antenna still worked. I will wait have to wait and see what happens with the Kaleb car. My biggest concern with the Cadillac is the 4.9 V8. With ever increasing gas prices, will the bottom of the market drop out on these cars and will everyone be afraid of anything that says V8? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Foam-free AC hose
The PO of my car had some pipe insulation like you get at Lowes on that pipe, held on with a couple of zip ties. I finally took it off, it was deteriorating after many years. Might not be the best stuff, but it seemed to be good enough, and cheap. You could wrap it with the aluminum foil duct tape (not the gray stuff) to reflect some heat, and keep it on there. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Anyone have any thoughts about heat resistant foam or cladding for my AC line? On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:22 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your suggestions. Although I am underqualified to act on your advice, I do appreciate knowing that the problem is solvable, rather than a symptom of a dying transmission On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To see if the accumulator (on the trans) is causing this, disconnect the vacuum line going to the accumulator.? Road test.? Each shift should come with a bang as you are simulating WOT.? If this is this true, you can adjust shift firmness to your liking. If you are happy with the speeds at which each gear changes, you can firm up the shifts by adjusting at the accumulator on the transmission.? Take the vacuum cap off and turn the screw clockwise no more than 1/8 of a turn, reconnect the vacuum, then road test.? It doesn't take much. ALWAYS make a reference mark and keep notes so you can get back to where you started. Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 7:16 am Subject: [MBZ] Foam-free AC hose Playing with my new 1983 300TD, I discovered a couple glitches. 1. The insulating foam is completely missing from the metal AC pipe that cuts across horizontally in front of the valve cover. Is it possible to get a replacement cladding to keep the line cool? It would have to be able to withstand high engine temperatures, of course. 2 I was unhappy because the AT shifted harshly (slingshot effect) and clunked (rear axle noise) into fourth, and then again when stopping the car it clunked into first. My tech adjusted the vacuum so it stopped clunking and shifted smoothly, except now it is flaring between 2nd and 3rd and 3rd and 4th gears. I traded one problem for another. What's the fix? 1983 300TD (blue) hope to sell soon New 1983 300TF (white, 318 K miles) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Small diesel engine fuel problem
I think that the injector might need rebuilding. Compression from the cylinder coming back into the injector because of a problem with the nozzle not shutting or spring pressure too low. Try taking one from one of the other engines you have and use it. Shouldn't take very long to do that. Manfred Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:58:56 -0500 From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] I keep getting air at the middle injector nut during bleeding. The two outside injectors bled the air and only fuel comes out. This is a 3-cyl Mitsubishi and here is what I have tried. Replaced the delivery valve o-rings twice, once from my Harbor Freight box of o-rings, then I ordered and installed the OEM o-rings. I crack open the middle nut with the engine warm and running and the bubbles never stop. I did a hand pressure blue dye test on the fit between the fuel line and delivery valve and got a solid transfer. I placed the in-put fuel hose in a clear jug and ran the supply pump looking for bubbles and got none. It also passed the supply test of at least 8 oz in 15 seconds, which includes going through the pump filter and the main screw-on filter. I'm not sure if this is a clue or not, but I get very little return fuel. At idle I saw none, but I had left the line off during a test drive and it wet that area by the time I got back. I have ordered delivery valve springs and copper seals for my next try. Does anyone have suggestion on how a steady supply of air could get in? Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Foam-free AC hose
Try a plumbing store and get some neoprene foam split tubing the right inside diameter. I think even Home Depot has them to keep water pipe from freezing. Don't get the cheaper foam as it will die in the heat. Manfred Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:43:59 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone have any thoughts about heat resistant foam or cladding for my AC line? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] e: 50 MPG ???
Mike, From what I've read about that it's only for use on turbo diesels. I wanted to do this on my 6.5 GM van and couldn't because of that. Manfred Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:06:34 CDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Terrible eh? The acceleration of my 220d suits me just fine. It could pull the hills a bit better..I wonder if it would like propane injection? Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC and ACC in 124
I thought that since the odometer still works (knocking on wood as I type) that I wouldn't have to pull the pod in this one - oh well - On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At one point the fuel gauge would tick in time with the blinkers Bad ground in the dash pod... Mine does this too! Its probably a bad ground near the instrument cluster... My ACC works correctly though so its probably not related to your ACC problem at least. :) -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So what happens?
Black ones are swarming around the DC area -- a full motorcaid of bog ones passed us on the way out of DC last time --- On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uncle Sugar purchases them for use in Oil Rich nations as embassy vehicles. Ship them to Iraq or Afghanistan for our boys to drive into combat. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
There is one real car, and a bunch of imitations. Buy the MB. Even if it turns out to be a turd, it will supply parts for the 300D 2.5 that you are really waiting for. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 5:50 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The MB that Kaleb has is a gasser isn't it? Not likely to be all that much better than the Caddy on fuel. Now, if only it was a diesel! Randy -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Lawyers and the price of oil
That same Nesweek article predicted that pregnancies would increase 1.2% with $200/barrel oil. We don't need naturist camps, we need to revoke all indecent exposure laws. Nudists need to be everywhere! If you don't like what you see, turn your head the other way. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A need for more naturist camps and legalized prostitution. That is a great way to stay occupied, get vitamin D and recreate close to home -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
My biggest concern with the Cadillac is the 4.9 V8. With ever increasing gas prices, will the bottom of the market drop out on these cars and will everyone be afraid of anything that says V8? Yes. We are already seeing that with V8 MB's. Look what Kaleb's last two auto sales on eBay rendered price wise. A year ago they would have sold for double that. Hobby cars (two seat convertibles), big V8's and SUV's are on the outs now and will continue to be for some time to come. You sold your Explorer at the right time. Caveats, YMMV My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
The bottom has not just hit the V8's, it has dropped out on large cars regardless of the engine. I just looked up the value of my 1987 300SDL and it has dropped to $1200! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car. My biggest concern with the Cadillac is the 4.9 V8. With ever increasing gas prices, will the bottom of the market drop out on these cars and will everyone be afraid of anything that says V8? Yes. We are already seeing that with V8 MB's. Look what Kaleb's last two auto sales on eBay rendered price wise. A year ago they would have sold for double that. Hobby cars (two seat convertibles), big V8's and SUV's are on the outs now and will continue to be for some time to come. You sold your Explorer at the right time. Caveats, YMMV My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Phriday Pfunny
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[MBZ] 123 Odo repair
Tonight I finally got around to taking apart the odo that Andrew sent me. Which reminds me I need to send him a check Anyway it looks like the metal wheel is loose on the shaft, I've taken it apart and of course lost the relative position of the wheels to each other. Regardless there only seem to be 1 that are different than the others, the miles and tens of miles wheels, the miles wheel is the first one after the metal wheel. The tens of miles wheel has a spring like thing in it which I think makes it next. I'd appreciate confirmation though... So I took the metal wheel and tried hitting on the hole with a flat blade screwdriver in an attempt to make it grab better. That accomplished just short of nothing. Instead I took a knife and cut some grooves in the shaft where that wheel goes which seems to have nearly gotten things working again though I need to do just a bit more before calling it fixed, I'm also thinking just a small drop of glue on the cleaned shaft will be my insurance policy... Once I'm convinced this one is fixed I'll pull the one out of my 240D and see if I can effect a repair there also. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
Tom Hargrave wrote: The bottom has not just hit the V8's, it has dropped out on large cars regardless of the engine. I just looked up the value of my 1987 300SDL and it has dropped to $1200! Oh, yeah? Have you done a completed auction search on eBay lately? Mitch. Save the Whales! They're starving! http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92592545 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Foam-free AC hose
Go to the plumbing section of lowes or whever, they sell that foam in the proper size that will slip right over the pipe. andrew strasfogel wrote: Anyone have any thoughts about heat resistant foam or cladding for my AC line? On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:22 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your suggestions. Although I am underqualified to act on your advice, I do appreciate knowing that the problem is solvable, rather than a symptom of a dying transmission On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To see if the accumulator (on the trans) is causing this, disconnect the vacuum line going to the accumulator.? Road test.? Each shift should come with a bang as you are simulating WOT.? If this is this true, you can adjust shift firmness to your liking. If you are happy with the speeds at which each gear changes, you can firm up the shifts by adjusting at the accumulator on the transmission.? Take the vacuum cap off and turn the screw clockwise no more than 1/8 of a turn, reconnect the vacuum, then road test.? It doesn't take much. ALWAYS make a reference mark and keep notes so you can get back to where you started. Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 7:16 am Subject: [MBZ] Foam-free AC hose Playing with my new 1983 300TD, I discovered a couple glitches. 1. The insulating foam is completely missing from the metal AC pipe that cuts across horizontally in front of the valve cover. Is it possible to get a replacement cladding to keep the line cool? It would have to be able to withstand high engine temperatures, of course. 2 I was unhappy because the AT shifted harshly (slingshot effect) and clunked (rear axle noise) into fourth, and then again when stopping the car it clunked into first. My tech adjusted the vacuum so it stopped clunking and shifted smoothly, except now it is flaring between 2nd and 3rd and 3rd and 4th gears. I traded one problem for another. What's the fix? 1983 300TD (blue) hope to sell soon New 1983 300TF (white, 318 K miles) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
Well, I just talked to Todd Knutson on the phone yesterday and he has gotten rid of most of his MB;s. WEll, I have quite a few of them now. Anyway, his daily driver is a Hyundai of some sort, and he just bought a chrysler mini van. The end of the world is near. Tom Hargrave wrote: I know, I saw the response. We have evolved (or devolved) from a Mercedes group to a car group who loves Mercedes. Even I am driving my Jeep Corvette these days and leaving the Mercedes in the driveway. The Jeep is more economical and the Vette is more fun. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Donald Snook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 3:01 PM To: 'Tom Hargrave'; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: RE: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car. The funny thing is at least one person said the Mercedes OR the Cadillac. Donald H. Snook -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:24 PM To: Donald Snook; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: RE: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car. And you asked this question to the Mercedes group? The answer should be obvious. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 7/22/08 10:19 AM Subject: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car. I think I know the results of this survey based on the audience. But, we will see anyway. I am selling my $500 Kaleb car Buick (for $1200) this week, and I need to find a car. I just pay cash and drive them for 6 months to a year. Kaleb has a beater 86 300E which he is fixing up right now and will be selling cheap. I haven't seen the car, yet. I am sure it is decent (perhaps a little rough, but it will be cheap). So, here are my options: 1986 Mercedes 300E (has a few dents and dings) - don't know the mileage yet. 1998 Ford Taurus - boring, but reliable workhorse of a car. Very good shape with service records. 140,000 miles 1993 Cadillac Sedan Deville - perfect shape. Owned by 75 year old man who only had it worked on at the Cadillac Dealer - service records 106,000 miles 1996 Volvo 850 142,000 miles very nice looking car. NO service records 1998 Chevy Monte Carlo 3.1 V6 (pretty good engine usually long life 250,000 plus). 156,000 miles 1995 Cadillac SLS only 90K miles -- very good shape, but Northstar engine can have VERY expensive midcase oil leak. 1998-2000 Ford Crown Victoria - government fleet cars from the state of Kansas. NOT police cars, but other government use. Any other suggestions welcome. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] the SL
OK, buyer was fake, SL is still for sale. I got a 3500 offer on the table right now, I have countered. Anybody want this thing? Now is your chance. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
Sounds nicer than the 300E, but is it as cheap? And still, its not a Mercedes... Donald Snook wrote: Loren wrote: Well Donald, I think the same. If Kaleb's MB does not work out, buy the big caddy, get a set of mounted longhorn horns, and mount them on the hood! You'd look right at home in Kaleb country! Ok, that's several votes for the 93 Cadillac - if the 300E doesn't work out. I just drove it - I got out of a hearing later than I thought and I didn't really want to go back to the pile of work on my desk, so I drove over and took it for a spin. Now, the guy said he had to leave at 5:30, so I only got to drive it for 20 minutes or so. It was in perfect shape. Lots of power, no weird noises, no warning lights, no rust, great paint, spotless interior, etc. Even the power antenna still worked. I will wait have to wait and see what happens with the Kaleb car. My biggest concern with the Cadillac is the 4.9 V8. With ever increasing gas prices, will the bottom of the market drop out on these cars and will everyone be afraid of anything that says V8? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] e: 50 MPG ???
propane injection will work fine on non turbo's as well from what I have been told. MG wrote: Mike, From what I've read about that it's only for use on turbo diesels. I wanted to do this on my 6.5 GM van and couldn't because of that. Manfred Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:06:34 CDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Terrible eh? The acceleration of my 220d suits me just fine. It could pull the hills a bit better..I wonder if it would like propane injection? Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
Its actually not a turd at all, I was surprised. If Don does not buy it I will be offering it to the list. OK Don wrote: There is one real car, and a bunch of imitations. Buy the MB. Even if it turns out to be a turd, it will supply parts for the 300D 2.5 that you are really waiting for. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 5:50 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The MB that Kaleb has is a gasser isn't it? Not likely to be all that much better than the Caddy on fuel. Now, if only it was a diesel! Randy -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
Well you cant go by those values on older diesels. They sell for quite a bit more than that in general. But yes, even the SDL';s have dropped in price ALOT. Dont ask what I gave the OK Don sdl away for. Tom Hargrave wrote: The bottom has not just hit the V8's, it has dropped out on large cars regardless of the engine. I just looked up the value of my 1987 300SDL and it has dropped to $1200! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car. My biggest concern with the Cadillac is the 4.9 V8. With ever increasing gas prices, will the bottom of the market drop out on these cars and will everyone be afraid of anything that says V8? Yes. We are already seeing that with V8 MB's. Look what Kaleb's last two auto sales on eBay rendered price wise. A year ago they would have sold for double that. Hobby cars (two seat convertibles), big V8's and SUV's are on the outs now and will continue to be for some time to come. You sold your Explorer at the right time. Caveats, YMMV My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the SL
Whaddaya mean fake? He can't come up with the money? Trying to scam/steal your car? Somebody trying to be funny? Why does somebody do a fake bid? Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com; SL Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] the SL OK, buyer was fake, SL is still for sale. I got a 3500 offer on the table right now, I have countered. Anybody want this thing? Now is your chance. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the SL
generally is someone with zero feedback bids on a big ticket item, they are just doing it to disrupt the process. my guess would be kids who find it funny. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whaddaya mean fake? He can't come up with the money? Trying to scam/steal your car? Somebody trying to be funny? Why does somebody do a fake bid? Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com; SL Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] the SL OK, buyer was fake, SL is still for sale. I got a 3500 offer on the table right now, I have countered. Anybody want this thing? Now is your chance. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the SL
They never reply to emails or pay for the car. Wilton Strickland wrote: Whaddaya mean fake? He can't come up with the money? Trying to scam/steal your car? Somebody trying to be funny? Why does somebody do a fake bid? Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com; SL Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] the SL OK, buyer was fake, SL is still for sale. I got a 3500 offer on the table right now, I have countered. Anybody want this thing? Now is your chance. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the SL
Yep. I got it. In other words, damned punks moved up from random phone calls, etc.. Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] the SL They never reply to emails or pay for the car. Wilton Strickland wrote: Whaddaya mean fake? He can't come up with the money? Trying to scam/steal your car? Somebody trying to be funny? Why does somebody do a fake bid? Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com; SL Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] the SL OK, buyer was fake, SL is still for sale. I got a 3500 offer on the table right now, I have countered. Anybody want this thing? Now is your chance. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Lawyers and the price of oil
government exists to create and perpetuate wars. they aren't going to give up any of them. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might need to run on the boobs and beer platform. Bring some fun to the unenlightened liberals in Seattle. Dang nanny state with their need to monitor and control everything. If they would allow the adults to do as adults are wont, we would be in better condition with fewer people needing to suckle at the teet of welfare programs. Girls would be employed and able to provide for their kids by getting exercise and adding to the tax base instead of draining state coffers and moping in sweatpants in front of the TV all day. Tax the recreational medications so that we can cover health care for underinsured people. That would more than balance budgets in most counties. Meth and pot operations would be under revenue enforcement and not wasting sheriff staff time. Even crack whores would become tax paying citizens. clay On 22 Jul 2008, at 14:26, Bill R wrote: Naturalists take all the fun out of nudity, plus most of them you wouldn't want to see that way anyhow. Taking the extreme profit out of lots of social issues [such as prostitution] would do more with one signature than all of the 'anti-drug' and organized crime fighting we have ever done. Even a hint of that would sink any politician though. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Lawyers and the price of oil A need for more naturist camps and legalized prostitution. That is a great way to stay occupied, get vitamin D and recreate close to home clay On 21 Jul 2008, at 18:58, OK Don wrote: NO - they didn't cause the rise, but they might benefit -- May 07, 2008 $200 Oil - Criminal Attorneys Never Had It Better Think back to the second oil embargo. With scarce gas, domestic violence, murders and other nasty crimes surged. The auto has always been America's safety valve and when it was shut off, social tensions blew. As Javier Bias and Chris Flood report in THE FINANCIAL TIMES, analysts predict $200 a barrel oil within the next six to 24 months. No way can most of us afford to blow off steam by jumping into the car and putting miles between ourselves and our lives. Of course, we will turn on each other. That means not only plenty of high-end [murder] business for criminal lawyers. There will be new status for this line of work. Government planners, mental-health clinicians, and religious leaders will be pleading for input from criminal attorneys on how to deter this violence. Just as in war, big names can be made fast. It just won't matter if lawyers, as long as they're in criminal, graduate from a second- third- or fourth-tier school. They'll have more work than they can handle. http://lawandmore.typepad.com/law_and_more/2008/05/200-oil--- crimi.html -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
Don pointed out: I argued that Ron Paul appears to be a loon, and as evidence of that, I pointed out that he drives a 1978 Chevette. Only if it's a gasser. If it's a '78 Chevette Diesel, he should be president. Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phriday Pfunny
In a message dated 7/22/2008 5:54:18 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080722/58d24277/att achment.jpg LOL! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 265 K miles 98 ML 320, 157 K miles 94 Bravada, 190 K miles **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
I wasn't mening to dis your car - just putting it in worst possible case terms. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its actually not a turd at all, I was surprised. If Don does not buy it I will be offering it to the list. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phriday Pfunny
ROTFLMAO --- and it's not even Friday yet! On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/22/2008 5:54:18 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080722/58d24277/att achment.jpg LOL! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
Mitch Haley wrote: Oh, yeah? Have you done a completed auction search on eBay lately? Huh, this one's lower than I would have expected, maybe it was the rough idle. Couldn't have been the window problem that takes five minutes to fix. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140248766977 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92592545 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Small diesel engine fuel problem
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:32 PM, MG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that the injector might need rebuilding. Compression from the cylinder coming back into the injector because of a problem with the nozzle not shutting or spring pressure too low. Try taking one from one of the other engines you have and use it. Shouldn't take very long to do that. Manfred **Thanks Manfred, the other two Mitsubishi engines are a different model, K3D, this one is a an L3E, so I have no extra injectors. However, I'll follow Mitch's advice and swap two injectors and if the problem moves, your analysis will have been right. I've got everything back together for bleeding tomorrow. I would do it tonight but then I couldn't resist starting it up and waking SWMBO. That kind of thinking has kept me sleeping with my first wife for almost 52 years. Thanks Harry Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:58:56 -0500 From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] I keep getting air at the middle injector nut during bleeding. The two outside injectors bled the air and only fuel comes out. This is a 3-cyl Mitsubishi and here is what I have tried. Replaced the delivery valve o-rings twice, once from my Harbor Freight box of o-rings, then I ordered and installed the OEM o-rings. I crack open the middle nut with the engine warm and running and the bubbles never stop. I did a hand pressure blue dye test on the fit between the fuel line and delivery valve and got a solid transfer. I placed the in-put fuel hose in a clear jug and ran the supply pump looking for bubbles and got none. It also passed the supply test of at least 8 oz in 15 seconds, which includes going through the pump filter and the main screw-on filter. I'm not sure if this is a clue or not, but I get very little return fuel. At idle I saw none, but I had left the line off during a test drive and it wet that area by the time I got back. I have ordered delivery valve springs and copper seals for my next try. Does anyone have suggestion on how a steady supply of air could get in? Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Lawyers and the price of oil
I think if we had more public nekkidness there would be far less body dismorphic behaviour in our youth. All the plastic ladies and barbie girls would been seen as aberrations and the whole diet industry would come crashing down. Fellow SWMBA works with took the family to southern France this summer. They attended a public beach with topless nature. Poor kids were scarred for life by all the grannies sporting withered fun bags. There were no sweet young things to be found. clay On 22 Jul 2008, at 17:10, OK Don wrote: That same Nesweek article predicted that pregnancies would increase 1.2% with $200/barrel oil. We don't need naturist camps, we need to revoke all indecent exposure laws. Nudists need to be everywhere! If you don't like what you see, turn your head the other way. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A need for more naturist camps and legalized prostitution. That is a great way to stay occupied, get vitamin D and recreate close to home -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
well, I basically presented it to Don in worst case terms. I after all bought it on the assumption it would be a parts car, but its turned out to be pretty decent. OK Don wrote: I wasn't mening to dis your car - just putting it in worst possible case terms. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its actually not a turd at all, I was surprised. If Don does not buy it I will be offering it to the list. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [SL] R-12 or convert R134
Summer's here and it's hotter than my 1983 380 SL A/C seems to want to handle. 1. find R-12 2. convert to R-134 3. other suggestions. Thanks . David W. Hibbert ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [SL] R-12 or convert R134
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:19:08 -0400 David W. Hibbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Summer's here and it's hotter than my 1983 380 SL A/C seems to want to handle. 1. find R-12 2. convert to R-134 3. other suggestions. Thanks . So where is here? Hydrocarbon-based refrigerants work well but have a maximum ambient temperature above which they don't work. I don't recall what the number is. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Odo repair
Curt Raymond wrote: Tonight I finally got around to taking apart the odo that Andrew sent me. You have a set of twist drills? Find a drill slightly smaller in diameter than the shaft, and use it to push the shaft out. Notice how the wheels stay in place when you do that? I can't help you with the reassembly, as I never got the wheels loose on a VDO. Did it with a motorcycle about 30 years ago, took me a while to get it back together, and at least one wheel didn't line up with the others. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the SL
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: OK, buyer was fake, SL is still for sale. Good thing Regina set up that new username to bid on it, eh? I got a 3500 offer on the table right now, I have countered. Anybody want this thing? Now is your chance. Somebody who wouldn't bid $3200 now offers $3500? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the SL
I am still working on SWMBA to get it to $3750. I have oldest child who could use the highway miles for driver licensing. Take the bus out to Claremore, visit okie acres and then take a 70 to 25 north to 80 then onto 84 and 97 to 90. Should be able to do it in 36 hours. clay On 22 Jul 2008, at 18:58, Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: OK, buyer was fake, SL is still for sale. Good thing Regina set up that new username to bid on it, eh? I got a 3500 offer on the table right now, I have countered. Anybody want this thing? Now is your chance. Somebody who wouldn't bid $3200 now offers $3500? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Phriday Pfunny
That's my funny of the year. Harry On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/22/2008 5:54:18 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080722/58d24277/att achment.jpg LOL! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 265 K miles 98 ML 320, 157 K miles 94 Bravada, 190 K miles **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vote on Don's next car.
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well you cant go by those values on older diesels. They sell for quite a bit more than that in general. I can remember three years ago when kbb told me that trade-in on a 190D turbo was $200 and retail was somewhere around a grand, and I couldn't find on in usable condition for less than $3k. I just checked, they won't value anything older than 1988 now. I checked on a 1988 2.5NA, and with 200k it's worth $550 in fair condition, 875 good, 1075 excellent. Trade-in is 200, 350, 450. I can get $350 for scrap. Suggested retail (what a dealer should ask for an excellent car, not what it will actually sell for) is $1700. Anybody here want to sell me an excellent 2.5 for $1700? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Odo repair
Locktite on the shaft, applied with a bit of paper, works great -- I just fixed the original odometer for my 300D this way when my old one crapped out at 280,811 miles. Don't have to take it apart, either -- just push the shaft over as far as it will to, then push the wheels the other way as far as possible. Use a pointed slip of paper to apply a tiny amount of locktite to the shaft, then push it back to normal position and push the wheels to where they belong. Use a bit of rubbing alcohol on the shaft hole to keep it from locking up, and spin the speedometer drive with a matchstick while the locktite sets so the shaft won't freeze up, and you should be good indefinitely. I took the shaft out of the first one I did, never again. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [SL] R-12 or convert R134
The R134a conversion on my current 300D is working perfectly. In fact, I keep moving the temp wheel up because I'm freezing. Flush the condenser if you switch over, I think there is enough crud accumulated in most of them to reduce the cooling efficiency quite a bit. Won't hurt to make sure there aren't a couple pounds of smaxhed bug wings stuck between condenser and radiator, too. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] eBay bidding history
In bidding on eBay, I've noticed that some other users' identities are masked, but mine is not. One auction on which I was bidding had a history of: a***s Jul-20-08 19:14:22 PDT a***r Jul-19-08 11:42:54 PDT o***y Jul-20-08 11:22:53 PDT l***t Jul-19-08 16:25:56 PDT 6***6 Jul-14-08 10:09:55 PDT a***s Jul-14-08 17:59:09 PDT r***i Jul-13-08 05:29:11 PDT craigintexas Jul-12-08 11:51:12 PDT r***i Jul-12-08 12:54:51 PDT r***i Jul-12-08 12:54:40 PDT Starting Price US $500.00 So is there a setting to mask one's identity in the bidding history? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Odo repair/ what kind of super glue wicks good?
In a message dated 7/22/2008 5:58:51 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tonight I finally got around to taking apart the odo that Andrew sent me. Which reminds me I need to send him a check Anyway it looks like the metal wheel is loose on the shaft, I've taken it apart and of course lost the relative position of the wheels to each other. Regardless there only seem to be 1 that are different than the others, the miles and tens of miles wheels, the miles wheel is the first one after the metal wheel. The tens of miles wheel has a spring like thing in it which I think makes it next. I'd appreciate confirmation though... Curt, Can't help you on the wheel coordination as my fix, now going on 12 years, is to just get a drop of super glue on the tip of a toothpick and apply it to the shaft and gear hub that is loose. It has to be the wicking kind of super glue that you will see disappear into the hub. I can't remember what kind of glue but I now have a spare ODO to play with and I will try a few types to see if I can find it again. I have been touting this idea for a long time and I know others have been successful so if someone has the brand name, let's hear from you. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 265 K miles 98 ML 320, 157 K miles 94 Bravada, 190 K miles **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
