Re: [MBZ] OT: Boats

2008-07-25 Thread Kevin Kraly
I've got room in the front and the back for foam, and it's goin' in before 
it goes out again!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300Sd 267Kmi, Ursula 


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Re: [MBZ] looking for source for crimp-type hose clamps

2008-07-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote:
 So, I was wondering if anyone knew of a
 vendor in the USA that might be cheaper overall.

They don't have those larger than 5.7mm, but they have a functional equivalent 
in the size you need for about $8 / 25 units in 304 stainless at mcmaster.com
Look at catalog page 254.

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Re: [MBZ] well heck...

2008-07-25 Thread PM7088
I just spent 10 days wonderful vacation in Colorado Springs.  I did notice a 
lot of nice old RUST FREE cars there.

Pete

 -- Original message --
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 Look in Colorado Springs.my cousin says there are all kids for sale
 there.
 
 Bob R
 
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 Subject: [MBZ] well heck...
 
 Maybe I should look up in Denver for a car to drag back.  Its not that 
 far up there is it?
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   89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
   84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
   76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
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Re: [MBZ] PHX CL 260E

2008-07-25 Thread Robert Rentfro
10-4. I wasn't familiar with these. Thanks for the schooling men.

Bob R 

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i never liked them.  smaller engine and tranny. less amenities.  why not
just get a proper 300E instead of a decontented one?  the price is the same.

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 I don't know much about these:



 http://tucson.craigslist.org/car/767633930.html



 What's the deal?



 BobR

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Re: [MBZ] PHX CL Sacrilege

2008-07-25 Thread Robert Rentfro
Will do. Some Monday when I know I have to be on the east side we'll arrange
something...along with Mr. Jim

Bob R

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Bob,

You name a time and place and we'll do a twofer mini-fest and if  
it's not Friday, we could probably get Jim F to join up

Chuck

And a gripe..  Why can't everyone just cut out everything except  
the most recent post to which they are replying...  Keep down the  
clutter  Rant over

On Jul 24, 2008, at 9:06 PM, Robert Rentfro wrote:

 Didja have something in mind?

 Keep me in mind when you come further west. Heck, we'd have a Chuck
 mini-fest if you'd come out to load up on cheap cars.



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Re: [MBZ] e: 50 MPG ???

2008-07-25 Thread MG
How much of the propane would dissolve into the oil bath itself? Kind of 
like adding extra gas to the air before an oil bath air cleaner in a gasser?


Manfred



Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:10:23 -0700
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  Before or after the oil bath?

I would think that before would give you the best
opportunity for a complete mix.  Would definitely
need attention to the safety aspects, but shouldn't
be any worse than a NOS rig on a gasser.

-- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] looking for source for crimp-type hose clamps

2008-07-25 Thread Tom Hargrave
Or buy them from us for less - $2.88 / dozen:
http://www.kegkits.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGYCategory_Code=OCLA
MP


Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

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Allan Streib wrote:
 So, I was wondering if anyone knew of a
 vendor in the USA that might be cheaper overall.

They don't have those larger than 5.7mm, but they have a functional
equivalent 
in the size you need for about $8 / 25 units in 304 stainless at
mcmaster.com
Look at catalog page 254.

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Re: [MBZ] looking for source for crimp-type hose clamps

2008-07-25 Thread Tom Hargrave
We have the exact same clamps for $0.30 each or $2.88 / dozen.
http://www.kegkits.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGYCategory_Code=OCLA
MP


Thanks,
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] looking for source for crimp-type hose clamps

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:18:52 -0400 Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Here's an example, but would prefer to find a vendor in the USA to
 save on shipping.
 

http://germansupply.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=17371cat=page
=3
 
 Anyone know where I can find these?


Sure, at:

http://germansupply.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=17371cat=page
=3

for $US 0.87.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] looking for source for crimp-type hose clamps

2008-07-25 Thread Jim Cathey
 ...at mcmaster.com

What happened to Carr?  Did he join Roebuck in exile?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] looking for source for crimp-type hose clamps

2008-07-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote:
 ...at mcmaster.com
 
 What happened to Carr?  Did he join Roebuck in exile?

Naw, they just wanted to save you a few keystrokes, not to mention trying to 
guess whether you need to type a hyphen or not.

A few years ago, some other industrial supply company registered 
mcmastercarr.com, but I think it got shut down for trademark infringement.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] looking for source for crimp-type hose clamps

2008-07-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Tom Hargrave wrote:
 Or buy them from us for less - $2.88 / dozen:
 http://www.kegkits.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGYCategory_Code=OCLAMP

The last two letters of the link wrapped to the next line and got me an error 
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Re: [MBZ] looking for source for crimp-type hose clamps

2008-07-25 Thread Loren Faeth
You can buy them in bulk from foxxequipment.com along with the 
crimping tool.  They are used for CO2 beverage lines.  If you 
can  trip your local pop distributor's service guy, he might give you 
a couple.  I bought some to build a 5 head soda dispenser.  Our own 
Tom Hargrave probably has them for sale

At 11:59 PM 7/24/2008, you wrote:
  Anyone know where I can find these?

Those look a lot like the crimp-on clamps for sprinkler
systems.  But those don't have that extra band inside,
and are probably all the wrong size.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Drum Brakes

2008-07-25 Thread Loren Faeth
If the trailer is old enough that the drums are worn that much, the 
adjusters may be rusted tight.  in that case, you have to take off 
the drums and either buy new or free up the old adjusters.  Whenever 
I worked on drum brakes, I always coated the adjuster screws 
liberally with never-sieze.

At 12:01 AM 7/25/2008, you wrote:
  I'm thinking you ratches the adjustment deal from the hole in the back
  but I spent a couple hours on it and I cant get it do to anything.  NOt
  sure if Im hitting the adjustment or not.  Is there some special tool
  that makes this easier?

A heavy screwdriver, bent?  Can you see into the hole?
Perhaps a dental mirror?

-- Jim


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[MBZ] It's today's Moose video

2008-07-25 Thread Chuck Landenberger
  Turn up the volume and enjoy!

Chuck

http://www.maniacworld.com/twin-baby-moose-in-sprinkler.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Boats

2008-07-25 Thread R A Bennell
I would personally be very interested in seeing how well that would work. I 
currently have a couple of aluminum
boats with 2 stroke outboard motors. I would like to get an inboard outboard 
but have been shying away from the
larger engines due to fuel costs. There are 120 to 140 horse 4 cylinder 
versions out there and I wonder how well a
MB diesel would handle the boat if used as a replacement. I am guessing the 
engine would be heavier and obviously a
240D does not put out similar horsepower but diesels have good torque and I 
wonder if that would help to offset the
loss of HP. Unfortunately, I don't know a whole lot about the gearing etc of 
the existing setups. I am assuming
that the gas motor would run something like 4 to 5K rpm at or close to full 
throttle. I am assuming the diesel
would not be happy at that rpm so one would have to regear in some manner to 
keep the rpm of the prop in the range
it expects. Lots of these boats are capable of pretty good speed on the water. 
I don't really care about going all
that fast. It has to get on plane but 20 mph would be fine instead of 40 mph.

Would love to hear from anyone with direct experience and or good insight. I'm 
not an engineer and I may be way off
on some of my thoughts on this.

One advantage would of course be reduced concern about fuel vapour and the 
possibility of explosion and fire. Gas
inboards some times do that.

Randy

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One would have thought that by now the Diesel crowd would have suggested
an OM something would be ideal for a boat. Just don't go up any hills in it.

Hendrik
with no boat

Jim Cathey wrote:
 What a shame about your boat motor, Jim!  Are you planning to repower
 it or
 just give up on it?


 Plan to fix it, whatever's wrong.  Repower is a distant
 second, new motors are U-gly.  (And north of $6k.)

 -- Jim




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Re: [MBZ] OT: Boats

2008-07-25 Thread Jim Cathey
 240D does not put out similar horsepower but diesels have good torque 
 and I wonder if that would help to offset the loss of HP.

I suspect that the torque (acceleration) vs HP (speed) thing
is less useful for boats, so that one would miss any horsepower
that weren't there.  Don't small boats spend a whole lot of
their time at or near top speed?

 gas motor would run ~ 4 to 5K rpm at or close to full throttle.

Mine does.  Around 4400 RPM at speed on the lake.

 I am assuming the diesel would not be happy at that rpm

The MB diesels run up there, but would probably be happier
somewhat slower.

 so one would have to regear in some manner to keep the rpm
 of the prop in the range it expects.

On my boat that was done with prop selection.  The pitch of
the prop is in effect the final 'road gear'.

I got both carburetors off my motor.  No sign of gunk
in them in spite of not having run since '91.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Boats

2008-07-25 Thread Jim Cathey
 with 2 stroke outboard motors. I would like to get an inboard outboard

Why?  You'd lose a lot of space to the motor that is now
hanging off the back of the transom.  That's one thing I
really like about our outboard boat, lots of interior
space for its size.  The squared open bow can seat something
like five in a pinch, and there's no motor in back to
take up valuable cooler space.  Modern pointy-toed open
bow boats are lucky to hold two up front.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Cheap 450 in Michigan

2008-07-25 Thread Mitch Haley
http://lansing.craigslist.org/car/768768215.html

Too bad I'm overpopulated right now, that just might be a diesel conversion 
waiting to happen.

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Re: [MBZ] OT, things to do in New MExico

2008-07-25 Thread Kevin
If you're into petroglyphs, there's a bunch in an area run by the national
parks service just outside albuquerque to the northwest.

Alamogordo is likely a bit out of his way.

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 07:18:35PM -0400, Scott Ritchey wrote:
 The Three Rivers Petroglyph site 
 
 (http://www.blm.gov/nm/st/en/prog/recreation/las_cruces/three_rivers.html)
 
 is pretty awesome if you are interested in ancient astronauts ... at least
 that's what several reminded me of.  It's Near Alamogordo ...but well south
 of I-40.
 
 Scott Ritchey

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Re: [MBZ] It's today's Moose video

2008-07-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:18:03 -0700 Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

   Turn up the volume and enjoy!
 
 Chuck
 
 http://www.maniacworld.com/twin-baby-moose-in-sprinkler.html

Cute.

One of the Google ads on the page was for The Moose Store,
http://www.themoosestore.com/


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Boats

2008-07-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
  I am assuming the diesel would not be happy at that rpm
 
 The MB diesels run up there, but would probably be happier
 somewhat slower.

MB 61x diesels have a redline around 5000 RPM. My understanding is that
they were built to cruise on the Autobahn with one's foot to the floor
all day long.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Foam-free AC hose

2008-07-25 Thread Gary Thompson
If Marshall were here, he would be INSISTING that you MEASURE the
pressure, not just GUESS! There's a service port on the transmission
that allowsd you to measure modulated pressure. It really should be
adjusted to spec per the technical specification manual. It's really
pretty easy to do. The manual says to measure while the car is in
motion (~30 miles per hour), but my experience is that the static
pressure will be within 0.1 bar at idle, with the transmission at
operating temp.

I agree with your mechanic. The modulator adjustment isn't really that
sensitive. It may take a turn or two to get there. 1/8th of a turn
won't even show up on the gauge. Seems to me it was roughly 1 turn =
0.1 bar.


Gary Thompson
1995 E320


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 Hey Jim,

 My mechanic said I would need to turn the acumulator at least TWO complete
 revolutions clockwise because it is flaring in all gears.  Sometimes he has
 to turn it SEVEN revs. He also said you have to keep on doing it until it
 works, as there is no gradational improvement.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Boats

2008-07-25 Thread Loren Faeth
MB 4 cyl engines with cast iron heads (OM 621, 615, 616) all run down 
the road at rpm between 4 and 5k.  The mode of operation is pretty 
much floor it until you need to slow down or stop.

Modifying these engines for marine use has been done, but requires 
some engineering and manufacturing.

At 10:58 AM 7/25/2008, you wrote:
I would personally be very interested in seeing how well that would 
work. I currently have a couple of aluminum
boats with 2 stroke outboard motors. I would like to get an inboard 
outboard but have been shying away from the
larger engines due to fuel costs. There are 120 to 140 horse 4 
cylinder versions out there and I wonder how well a
MB diesel would handle the boat if used as a replacement. I am 
guessing the engine would be heavier and obviously a
240D does not put out similar horsepower but diesels have good 
torque and I wonder if that would help to offset the
loss of HP. Unfortunately, I don't know a whole lot about the 
gearing etc of the existing setups. I am assuming
that the gas motor would run something like 4 to 5K rpm at or close 
to full throttle. I am assuming the diesel
would not be happy at that rpm so one would have to regear in some 
manner to keep the rpm of the prop in the range
it expects. Lots of these boats are capable of pretty good speed on 
the water. I don't really care about going all
that fast. It has to get on plane but 20 mph would be fine instead of 40 mph.

Would love to hear from anyone with direct experience and or good 
insight. I'm not an engineer and I may be way off
on some of my thoughts on this.

One advantage would of course be reduced concern about fuel vapour 
and the possibility of explosion and fire. Gas
inboards some times do that.

Randy

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One would have thought that by now the Diesel crowd would have suggested
an OM something would be ideal for a boat. Just don't go up any hills in it.

Hendrik
with no boat

Jim Cathey wrote:
  What a shame about your boat motor, Jim!  Are you planning to repower
  it or
  just give up on it?
 
 
  Plan to fix it, whatever's wrong.  Repower is a distant
  second, new motors are U-gly.  (And north of $6k.)
 
  -- Jim
 
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Boats

2008-07-25 Thread R A Bennell
Partly looking for better fuel economy on a bigger boat. Older 2 strokes are 
dirty and inefficient on fuel. Newer 4
stroke or injected 2 stroke outboards are expensive. My alternative is to try 
an I/O with one of the smaller
motors. Then I start thinking about diesel. No real idea if that is sound 
thinking - just something I have always
wanted to try.

Randy


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 with 2 stroke outboard motors. I would like to get an inboard outboard

Why?  You'd lose a lot of space to the motor that is now
hanging off the back of the transom.  That's one thing I
really like about our outboard boat, lots of interior
space for its size.  The squared open bow can seat something
like five in a pinch, and there's no motor in back to
take up valuable cooler space.  Modern pointy-toed open
bow boats are lucky to hold two up front.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Boats

2008-07-25 Thread R A Bennell
To start with, one would need some form of adaptor to mate the engine to the 
drive system. Then usually, marine
engines have water jacketed exhaust manifolds. I assume that may be to keep the 
engine compartment cool as much as
to cool the engine since the engine is usually housed in a small box. Most 
I/O's would have raw water cooling
systems rather than a closed system but one could do a closed system I guess - 
more common on salt water vessels. I
only operate in fresh water lake with reasonably cool water so not much of a 
corrosion issue.

Could mount the fuel tank in the bow to even out the weight a bit.

Prop selection would essentially be changing gearing I guess. Still wonder if 
240D engine has sufficient umph to
make it work. As I said earlier, not too concerned about top speed. So long as 
it would get on plane things should
be acceptable. Problem might be the length of time and distance it would take 
to get on plane, especially if the
boat was loaded down with people etc. Don't think it would be a ski boat.

Back in the late 60's (or early 70's) my father in law had an old Starcraft I/O 
with the 80HP Renault engine. I
remember being in that boat with several other people and trying to get it to 
plane. We ran a long way with all of
us up by the windshield trying to shift enough weight forward to get it on 
plane. It finally did, and then would
remain on plane so long as one did not slow the engine speed. The main issue 
was that the boat leaked quite badly
and there was no doubt quite a bit of water in the bilge that added a lot of 
weight and of course shifted to the
stern as soon as one took off and the bow lifted. It was so bad when they quit 
running it that it had to be parked
nearest the shore. It would settle to the bottom over night. The boat was 
aluminum and there were cracks in the
hull down about the water line where the formed in spray rails were.

He gave it to my wife and I and I sold it a year or so later to someone who 
repaired it. That was about the time
that I went back to university and as such did not have the financial ability 
to hang on to it and repair it (which
was the initial intention when he gave it to us).

Randy

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MB 4 cyl engines with cast iron heads (OM 621, 615, 616) all run down
the road at rpm between 4 and 5k.  The mode of operation is pretty
much floor it until you need to slow down or stop.

Modifying these engines for marine use has been done, but requires
some engineering and manufacturing.


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Re: [MBZ] Foam-free AC hose

2008-07-25 Thread R A Bennell
Information about setting the tranny used to be posted on one of these MB 
sites. Is it still out there somewhere?

RAndy

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If Marshall were here, he would be INSISTING that you MEASURE the
pressure, not just GUESS! There's a service port on the transmission
that allowsd you to measure modulated pressure. It really should be
adjusted to spec per the technical specification manual. It's really
pretty easy to do. The manual says to measure while the car is in
motion (~30 miles per hour), but my experience is that the static
pressure will be within 0.1 bar at idle, with the transmission at
operating temp.

I agree with your mechanic. The modulator adjustment isn't really that
sensitive. It may take a turn or two to get there. 1/8th of a turn
won't even show up on the gauge. Seems to me it was roughly 1 turn =
0.1 bar.


Gary Thompson
1995 E320


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 Hey Jim,

 My mechanic said I would need to turn the acumulator at least TWO complete
 revolutions clockwise because it is flaring in all gears.  Sometimes he has
 to turn it SEVEN revs. He also said you have to keep on doing it until it
 works, as there is no gradational improvement.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Boats

2008-07-25 Thread Curt Raymond
A mistaken assumption, the OM engines are limited to something like 5500rpm and 
are quite content to wail away at that speed all day long. When I used to 
commute with my 240D there were many occasions we'd hit 495N and rise up to 
maximum speed (86mph?) and hold there for 20 minutes until my exit. Never felt 
like I'd have any worry about doing that all day...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:58:36 -0500
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 I am assuming that the gas motor would run something like 4 to 5K rpm at or 
close to full throttle. I am assuming the diesel would not be happy at that rpm 



  
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[MBZ] OT: Boats (Rick Ellis)

2008-07-25 Thread RICHARD W JANICE ELLIS
 
  Those boat lovers looking for a diesel engine should look at the Universal 
diesel used in sailboats. It relatively light, good power and uses very little 
fuel. Should be an easy fit too.
  I also believe they are two/three cylinder engines. 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Boats

2008-07-25 Thread Loren Faeth
Diesel thinking makes sense for the reasons you mentioned.  While MB 
makes marine Diesels, they are rare as hen's teeth in Norte 
America.  I am only cautioning about the conversion costs.

At 12:06 PM 7/25/2008, you wrote:
Partly looking for better fuel economy on a bigger boat. Older 2 
strokes are dirty and inefficient on fuel. Newer 4
stroke or injected 2 stroke outboards are expensive. My alternative 
is to try an I/O with one of the smaller
motors. Then I start thinking about diesel. No real idea if that is 
sound thinking - just something I have always
wanted to try.

Randy


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  with 2 stroke outboard motors. I would like to get an inboard outboard

Why?  You'd lose a lot of space to the motor that is now
hanging off the back of the transom.  That's one thing I
really like about our outboard boat, lots of interior
space for its size.  The squared open bow can seat something
like five in a pinch, and there's no motor in back to
take up valuable cooler space.  Modern pointy-toed open
bow boats are lucky to hold two up front.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] ML for sale in Wichita

2008-07-25 Thread Donald Snook
I don't know if $11K is a good price or not.  But, it sounds low to me.

http://wichita.craigslist.org/car/769362518.html

No affiliation.


Donald H. Snook

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[MBZ] Taking the cake

2008-07-25 Thread RELNGSON
A YOUNG girl embarrassed by her name - Talula Does the Hula from Hawaii - has 
won a new one from a family court judge in New Zealand.

Family Court Judge Rob Murfitt, ruling in the city of New Plymouth in the 
North Island, made the youngster a ward of court so that she could change the 
name she hates.
Judge Murfitt, in a written ruling released yesterday, said the girl's mother 
had not given any thought to the implication of naming her daughter.
In all facets of life, a child bearing this name would be held up to 
ridicule and suspicion, Judge Murfitt wrote in the ruling made in February.
The court is profoundly concerned about the very poor judgment which this 
child's parents have shown in choosing this name for her. It makes a fool of 
the 
child and sets her up with a social disability and handicap quite 
unnecessarily.

 The name issue arose during a custody hearing for the girl.

Judge Murfitt also took a stand against other parents saddling their children 
with bizarre names despite officials often trying to talk them out of unusual 
choices, saying this could create social hurdles as they grew up.

He cited as examples a family who named their children after six-cylinder 
Ford cars, twins called Benson and Hedges and youngsters called Midnight 
Chardonnay, Number 16 Bus Shelter and Violence.
Quite frequently judges in the family court are dismayed by the eccentricity 
of names which some litigants have given their children, he wrote.
New Zealand's Child, Youth and Family agency was quoted as telling local 
reporters that it did not consider odd names as such to be child abuse although 
it 
could be classified as such if a child was bullied because of his or her 
name.

 In Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii's case, there was no bullying, probably 
because the girl was so embarrassed that she never told friends her real name, 
instead calling herself K.
 Judge Murfitt gave the girl a new name but it was not made public in order 
to protect her privacy.
 The custody case was also resolved.




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[MBZ] More carzy mileage claims -- 40 MPG in town

2008-07-25 Thread Donald Snook
http://wichita.craigslist.org/car/768215115.html


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Re: [MBZ] More carzy mileage claims -- 40 MPG in town

2008-07-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Donald Snook wrote:
 http://wichita.craigslist.org/car/768215115.html

In 1987, the 5000s diesel was NLA. The 2.2 5sp gasser has been revised to
17 city, 24 hwy. The other drivetrains are of course lower.

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[MBZ] Got to go here in NM

2008-07-25 Thread Rich Thomas
http://www.abqjournal.com/abqnews/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=8068Itemid=2

Taos Resort in Running for Nation's Best Restroom   PDF 
http://www.abqjournal.com/abqnews/index2.php?option=com_contentdo_pdf=1id=8068
 
Print 
http://www.abqjournal.com/abqnews/index2.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=8068pop=1page=0Itemid=2
 
E-mail 
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[MBZ] MB Vs BMW

2008-07-25 Thread LarryT
Hi gang,
I have no idea what possessed me to look at BMWs in Craigs List, but once 
again I did.

Anyway, wondering why Bimmers loose their value so much faster than MBs? 
Are they more problem prone?  That's hard to believe considering the 
problems the S Class' seem to come from the factory with.

Anyway, here's a 96 750i - comparable to a S Class - for $4k negotiable. 
Sure it's 12 years old but it looks pretty nice - got a smooth V8 gasser, 
new stuff like tires and was recently inspected.

The early V8s had engine problems with the factory quietly replacing engines 
with reblt ones -

Oh well - don;t need another $4000 car anyway -

Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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Re: [MBZ] Taking the cake

2008-07-25 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Stupidity has no bounds!!!  The judge got it right!!!

Have a great weekend, wherever you are.  And be safe!!!

Chuck


On Jul 25, 2008, at 1:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A YOUNG girl embarrassed by her name - Talula Does the Hula from  
 Hawaii - has
 won a new one from a family court judge in New Zealand.



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Re: [MBZ] Got to go here in NM

2008-07-25 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hi Rich,

Your Subject line tells it all  News must be slow in  
Alburquerque  Spelled it wrong, but i'm not being graded as  
far as I know!

Take care.  Safe weekend wherever you are!

Chuck

On Jul 25, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

 http://www.abqjournal.com/abqnews/index.php? 
 option=com_contenttask=viewid=8068Itemid=2


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Re: [MBZ] Got to go here in NM

2008-07-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:36:32 -0700 Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi Rich,
 
 Your Subject line tells it all  News must be slow in  
 Alburquerque  Spelled it wrong, but i'm not being graded as  
 far as I know!

Well, now, those of us in New Mexico might take it differently!   :-)

Al bu quer que


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Re: [MBZ] More carzy mileage claims -- 40 MPG in town

2008-07-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Donald Snook wrote:
 http://wichita.craigslist.org/car/768215115.html

 In 1987, the 5000s diesel was NLA. The 2.2 5sp gasser has been revised to
 17 city, 24 hwy.

And the diesel was never available in the US in the 5000 with the
sleek aero body like in the picture, only in the older boxier one.

I think some people just can't calculate MPG correctly.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] More carzy mileage claims -- 40 MPG in town

2008-07-25 Thread Allan Streib
On the other hand I just filled up and computed my mileage and it was
a shade over 27 MPG on this tankful.  That's about the highest I've
gotten for in-town driving, and the pump shutoff was almost at
overflow so I know the tank was full.

Perhaps we're getting some really rich summer blend fuel right now.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] MB Vs BMW

2008-07-25 Thread jfreezn
A 96 750i would be a V12, basically two 6's, as far as the engine electronics 
and fuel injection are concerned.? Look up the prices of simple stuff like 
spark plug wires.? Still, I always said every car enthusiast should drive a V12 
in their lifetime.? AT $4k, you don't stand to loose much--might even make 
money if you part it out!

Jim in Phoenix??


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Hi gang,
I have no idea what possessed me to look at BMWs in Craigs List, but once 
again I did.

Anyway, wondering why Bimmers loose their value so much faster than MBs? 
Are they more problem prone?  That's hard to believe considering the 
problems the S Class' seem to come from the factory with.

Anyway, here's a 96 750i - comparable to a S Class - for $4k negotiable. 
Sure it's 12 years old but it looks pretty nice - got a smooth V8 gasser, 
new stuff like tires and was recently inspected.

The early V8s had engine problems with the factory quietly replacing engines 
with reblt ones -

Oh well - don;t need another $4000 car anyway -

Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
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800-583-8601
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[MBZ] Obooma. again

2008-07-25 Thread RELNGSON
Subject: Senator Obama's visit to Afghanistan by someone who was THERE !

This is a guy that use to be in my ward , so someone I know personally.  He 
is the father of six and currently serving in Afghanistan.  This is his take of 
Senator Obama visit to the troops.  Kind of a different take that what you 
will see on the news.  Make of it what you will. ~ Sheri

Hello everyone, 
 As you know I am not a very political person. I just wanted to pass 
along that Senator Obama came to Bagram Afghanistan for about an hour on his 
visit 
to The War Zone. I wanted to share with you what happened. He got off the 
plan and got into a bullet proof vehicle, got to the area to meet with the 
Major General (2 Star) who is the commander here at Bagram. As the Soldiers 
where 
lined up to shake his hand he blew them off and didn't say a word as he went 
into the conference room to meet the General. As he finished, the vehicles took 
him to the ClamShell (pretty much a big top tent that military personnel can 
play basketball or work out in with weights) so he could take his publicity 
pictures playing basketball. He again shunned the opportunity to talk to 
Soldiers to thank them for their service. So really he was just here to make a 
showing for the American's back home that he is their candidate for President. 
I 
think that if you are going to make an effort to come all the way over here you 
would thank those that are providing the freedom that they are providing for 
you. I swear we got more thanks from the NBA Basketball Players or the Dallas 
Cowboy Cheerleaders than from one of the Senators, who wants to be the 
President 
of the United States. I just don't understand how anyone would want him to be 
our Commander-and-Chief. It was almost that he was scared to be around those 
that provide the freedom for him and our great country. 
 If this is blunt and to the point I am sorry  but I wanted you all to 
know what kind of caliber of person he really is. What you see in the news is 
all fake.
  
In service,
CPT Jeffrey S. Porter
Battle Captain
TF Wasatch
American Soldier



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[MBZ] I cooked today

2008-07-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I spent most of the day out on a car lot.  Our company has started a new 
service for dealers where we basically maintain a data base of their 
inventory and feed it to various websites.  Im the guy leading up this 
project.  I forgot about sun screen.  Need I say more?
-- 
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  94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL,
  89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
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Re: [MBZ] well heck...

2008-07-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, I dont think I will be going up that way actually.  With my huge 
diesel tank on the back, I should have enough fuel to get to you and 
back without filling up.  Depends on how steep this mountain is and how 
much fuel I burn up getting to the top.  Am real curious to find out how 
the Duramax does pulling a big hill like I assume I will be pulling out 
that way.  I bet I dont even know Im pulling a trailer going up a big hill.

Craig McCluskey wrote:
 On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:33:01 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Maybe I should look up in Denver for a car to drag back.  Its not that 
 far up there is it?
 
 We drove through Denver on the way to the IowaQ. 
 
 Go to Google Maps: http://maps.google.com/  It shows:
 
From Los Alamos to Claremore is 709 mi -- about 10 hours 43 mins.
 
 Dragging the icon to change the route to Colorado Springs gives 1,066 mi
  -- about 15 hours 49 mins.
 
 Dragging the icon to change the route to Denver gives 1,148 mi -- about 16
 hours 53 mins.
 
 
 
 It turns out that I'm just about due west of you. Colorado Springs and
 Denver are noticably north, so you have to go north and then south again
 to get home.
 
 
 Craig
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Drum Brakes

2008-07-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
no, I cant see, was just using a regular screw driver doing it by feel. 
  I never got it done so if I crash and burn coming back down the 
mountain with no trailer brakes, you will know what happened.

Jim Cathey wrote:
 I'm thinking you ratches the adjustment deal from the hole in the back
 but I spent a couple hours on it and I cant get it do to anything.  NOt
 sure if Im hitting the adjustment or not.  Is there some special tool
 that makes this easier?
 
 A heavy screwdriver, bent?  Can you see into the hole?
 Perhaps a dental mirror?
 
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Re: [MBZ] 260E

2008-07-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Actually the best is either a E320 or E420.  The E420 is a hell of a 
nice car (in general).  That E320 with the 104 is nice too.

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 ..i never liked them.  smaller engine and tranny. less amenities.  why not
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 The 260 had 158hp, I bleeve. If your heart is set on a 124, the best of all 
 is the 300E 2.8. 194hp and a hell of a lot less maintenance.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Drum Brakes

2008-07-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I bought this trailer in 05, but it has taken a trip or 2 thru snow storms

Loren Faeth wrote:
 If the trailer is old enough that the drums are worn that much, the 
 adjusters may be rusted tight.  in that case, you have to take off 
 the drums and either buy new or free up the old adjusters.  Whenever 
 I worked on drum brakes, I always coated the adjuster screws 
 liberally with never-sieze.
 
 At 12:01 AM 7/25/2008, you wrote:
 I'm thinking you ratches the adjustment deal from the hole in the back
 but I spent a couple hours on it and I cant get it do to anything.  NOt
 sure if Im hitting the adjustment or not.  Is there some special tool
 that makes this easier?
 A heavy screwdriver, bent?  Can you see into the hole?
 Perhaps a dental mirror?

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Re: [MBZ] ML for sale in Wichita

2008-07-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Thats actually kind of high, should sell for 8-9k

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 I don't know if $11K is a good price or not.  But, it sounds low to me.
 
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[MBZ] North Dakota Oil field

2008-07-25 Thread harry watkins
A friend who is the regional manager in ND for Enercrest Corp sent an email 
about what's going on up there.  He said its like a boom town, only it 
involves three states.

In the three counties he serves, he said there are about 75 drilling rigs 
going day and night.

The strange thing is that oil has been being taken from the area known as 
the Bakken Formation since 1951.  In 2007, a Houston company, EOG Resources 
drilled a well that was estimated to produce 700,000 barrels and the rave 
was on.

The latest USGS estimate is 25 times what their 1995 estimate was.  Here is 
part of there report:

The Bakken Formation estimate is larger than all other current USGS oil 
assessments of the lower 48 states and is the largest continuous oil 
accumulation ever assessed by the USGS. A continuous oil accumulation 
means that the oil resource is dispersed throughout a geologic formation 
rather than existing as discrete, localized occurrences. The next largest 
continuous oil accumulation in the U.S. is in the Austin Chalk of Texas 
and Louisiana, with an undiscovered estimate of 1.0 billions of barrels of 
technically recoverable oil.

My friend says he hears talk that other so called played out fields will be 
looked at in light of what new drilling techniques can do.

Harry
 


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[MBZ] OT best paint stripper

2008-07-25 Thread Allan Streib
Need to strip heavy black paint from a gas tank so I can treat the
rust and repaint.

What's the best stripper to use for this?  Or should I just use a heat
gun and putty knife?

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[MBZ] [Fwd: Mercedes unsubscribe notification]

2008-07-25 Thread Striplin Admin account
So he comes here to try and get somebody to buy his car, then leaves 
What a leach.

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[MBZ] OFF to the races!!!!

2008-07-25 Thread Rolf
Car is on its way to the races.

http://superturbodiesel.com/std/viewtopic.php?f=18t=96;


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[MBZ] WTF, diesel prices and gas

2008-07-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Ours is down to 3.69 gas, 3.36 diesel, in OKC its 3.41 and 4.34.  Guess 
I will fill the 100 gal tank in OKC instead of Tulsa before I head to NM.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Boats

2008-07-25 Thread Kevin Kraly
I've got a bunch of the packing peanuts lying around along with some 
styrofoam and even some air pouches from packaging.  I GUERANTEE that it 
won't go down ever again unless the hull is compromised!

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[MBZ] Conundrum

2008-07-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Gang,

You're all clever folks so I figured I'd pose this here.
I'm pretty well set to buy LT Don's VW in a couple weeks. The plan is to fly 
out and drive back. I have a friend in Chicago my wife and I plan to stop and 
spend some time there.
The problem is getting from the airport in Des Moines to LT Don's pad in 
Jefferson something like 1 1/2 hour away. The cheapest flights are on the 
Monday (August 18 IIRC) but the good LT has to work. I'm thinking right now are 
cheapest option is to rent an econobox in Des Moines and return it the next day 
or even later the same day. Our route is back through Des Moines so the time 
lost is minimal. Looks like a rental will be about $35 plus gas which is 
actually less than I'd thought...

Any better ideas?

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Conundrum

2008-07-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
That sounds like a plan to me, except the only problem is that I picked 
up the VW last week and its sitting in my driveway.

Curt Raymond wrote:
 Gang,
 
 You're all clever folks so I figured I'd pose this here.
 I'm pretty well set to buy LT Don's VW in a couple weeks. The plan is to fly 
 out and drive back. I have a friend in Chicago my wife and I plan to stop and 
 spend some time there.
 The problem is getting from the airport in Des Moines to LT Don's pad in 
 Jefferson something like 1 1/2 hour away. The cheapest flights are on the 
 Monday (August 18 IIRC) but the good LT has to work. I'm thinking right now 
 are cheapest option is to rent an econobox in Des Moines and return it the 
 next day or even later the same day. Our route is back through Des Moines so 
 the time lost is minimal. Looks like a rental will be about $35 plus gas 
 which is actually less than I'd thought...
 
 Any better ideas?
 
 -Curt
 
 
 
   
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[MBZ] more New Mexico

2008-07-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So tell me about this Nuclear lab in Los Alamos, is this some tourist 
thing of interest?
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Re: [MBZ] Conundrum

2008-07-25 Thread Wonko the Sane
Pewww ... !

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 That sounds like a plan to me, except the only problem is that I picked
 up the VW last week and its sitting in my driveway.

 Curt Raymond wrote:
  Gang,
 
  You're all clever folks so I figured I'd pose this here.
  I'm pretty well set to buy LT Don's VW in a couple weeks. The plan is to
 fly out and drive back. I have a friend in Chicago my wife and I plan to
 stop and spend some time there.
  The problem is getting from the airport in Des Moines to LT Don's pad in
 Jefferson something like 1 1/2 hour away. The cheapest flights are on the
 Monday (August 18 IIRC) but the good LT has to work. I'm thinking right now
 are cheapest option is to rent an econobox in Des Moines and return it the
 next day or even later the same day. Our route is back through Des Moines so
 the time lost is minimal. Looks like a rental will be about $35 plus gas
 which is actually less than I'd thought...
 
  Any better ideas?
 
  -Curt
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Conundrum

2008-07-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I will sell it to Curt for $2500

Wonko the Sane wrote:
 Pewww ... !
 
 On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
 That sounds like a plan to me, except the only problem is that I picked
 up the VW last week and its sitting in my driveway.

 Curt Raymond wrote:
 Gang,

 You're all clever folks so I figured I'd pose this here.
 I'm pretty well set to buy LT Don's VW in a couple weeks. The plan is to
 fly out and drive back. I have a friend in Chicago my wife and I plan to
 stop and spend some time there.
 The problem is getting from the airport in Des Moines to LT Don's pad in
 Jefferson something like 1 1/2 hour away. The cheapest flights are on the
 Monday (August 18 IIRC) but the good LT has to work. I'm thinking right now
 are cheapest option is to rent an econobox in Des Moines and return it the
 next day or even later the same day. Our route is back through Des Moines so
 the time lost is minimal. Looks like a rental will be about $35 plus gas
 which is actually less than I'd thought...
 Any better ideas?

 -Curt




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Re: [MBZ] Conundrum

2008-07-25 Thread Wonko the Sane
That would definitely be your least expensive route. The only other
transportation from the airport to the VW would be renting a limo -- and
that would be way more than $35. It is about 70 miles each direction.

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gang,

 You're all clever folks so I figured I'd pose this here.
 I'm pretty well set to buy LT Don's VW in a couple weeks. The plan is to
 fly out and drive back. I have a friend in Chicago my wife and I plan to
 stop and spend some time there.
 The problem is getting from the airport in Des Moines to LT Don's pad in
 Jefferson something like 1 1/2 hour away. The cheapest flights are on the
 Monday (August 18 IIRC) but the good LT has to work. I'm thinking right now
 are cheapest option is to rent an econobox in Des Moines and return it the
 next day or even later the same day. Our route is back through Des Moines so
 the time lost is minimal. Looks like a rental will be about $35 plus gas
 which is actually less than I'd thought...

 Any better ideas?

 -Curt




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Re: [MBZ] Conundrum

2008-07-25 Thread Wonko the Sane
I will sell it to you for $10K, and give some of the profit to Curt for not
getting it.

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 I will sell it to Curt for $2500

 Wonko the Sane wrote:
  Pewww ... !
 
  On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  That sounds like a plan to me, except the only problem is that I picked
  up the VW last week and its sitting in my driveway.
 
  Curt Raymond wrote:
  Gang,
 
  You're all clever folks so I figured I'd pose this here.
  I'm pretty well set to buy LT Don's VW in a couple weeks. The plan is
 to
  fly out and drive back. I have a friend in Chicago my wife and I plan to
  stop and spend some time there.
  The problem is getting from the airport in Des Moines to LT Don's pad
 in
  Jefferson something like 1 1/2 hour away. The cheapest flights are on
 the
  Monday (August 18 IIRC) but the good LT has to work. I'm thinking right
 now
  are cheapest option is to rent an econobox in Des Moines and return it
 the
  next day or even later the same day. Our route is back through Des
 Moines so
  the time lost is minimal. Looks like a rental will be about $35 plus gas
  which is actually less than I'd thought...
  Any better ideas?
 
  -Curt
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Mercedes unsubscribe notification]

2008-07-25 Thread Wonko the Sane
And the downside of his departure would be  ?

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Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Mercedes unsubscribe notification]

2008-07-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
none, that I can think of

Wonko the Sane wrote:
 And the downside of his departure would be  ?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Conundrum

2008-07-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
but  you already sold it to me for $500, remember?

Wonko the Sane wrote:
 I will sell it to you for $10K, and give some of the profit to Curt for not
 getting it.
 
 On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
 I will sell it to Curt for $2500

 Wonko the Sane wrote:
 Pewww ... !

 On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 That sounds like a plan to me, except the only problem is that I picked
 up the VW last week and its sitting in my driveway.

 Curt Raymond wrote:
 Gang,

 You're all clever folks so I figured I'd pose this here.
 I'm pretty well set to buy LT Don's VW in a couple weeks. The plan is
 to
 fly out and drive back. I have a friend in Chicago my wife and I plan to
 stop and spend some time there.
 The problem is getting from the airport in Des Moines to LT Don's pad
 in
 Jefferson something like 1 1/2 hour away. The cheapest flights are on
 the
 Monday (August 18 IIRC) but the good LT has to work. I'm thinking right
 now
 are cheapest option is to rent an econobox in Des Moines and return it
 the
 next day or even later the same day. Our route is back through Des
 Moines so
 the time lost is minimal. Looks like a rental will be about $35 plus gas
 which is actually less than I'd thought...
 Any better ideas?

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Re: [MBZ] Conundrum

2008-07-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote:
 Any better ideas?

Have Wonko and Deb drop the VeeDub off at overnight parking in DesMoines?

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Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Mercedes unsubscribe notification]

2008-07-25 Thread Gary Hurst
what else would you expect from a knutson guy?

On 7/25/08, Striplin Admin account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Mercedes unsubscribe notification]

2008-07-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
true.  This is one of the guys whos only purpose on old banned was to 
cut me down all the time.  There was a group of those like that and 
well, they are all over on toad banned, where nothing ever happens.

Gary Hurst wrote:
 what else would you expect from a knutson guy?
 
 On 7/25/08, Striplin Admin account [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 What a leach.

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[MBZ] Short notice Get to Gether....

2008-07-25 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Rob,

A bunch of us are going to meet at Anzio Landing for lunch on  
Saturday 7/26, tomorrow..

Hope you can join us.  Here's a link to the map.

It's at Falcon Field in Mesa..

http://www.eventective.com/provider/map.aspx?num=42333

Take care and sorry for the  short leash

Chuck



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Dial-up ISP Recommendations

2008-07-25 Thread Gary Hurst
i'm surprised anyone even still has a land line, let alone a desire for dial up.

On 7/25/08, Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What is the conventional wisdom on dial-up ISP and email service? I have a
 friend who needs a budget solution.  Looks like PeoplePC has good rates but
 I found their webmail pretty slow and cumbersome.  I see several on the list
 use gmail.  Recommendations?  Comments?  Thanks.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Dial-up ISP Recommendations

2008-07-25 Thread Allan Streib
I'd look for a service that just gives you IP access, bare bones, and
then couple that with a free email account like gmail or fastmail.

No sense getting locked in to an email address etc. with a provider
who you may want to drop at any time.

Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What is the conventional wisdom on dial-up ISP and email service? I
 have a friend who needs a budget solution.  Looks like PeoplePC has
 good rates but I found their webmail pretty slow and cumbersome.  I
 see several on the list use gmail.  Recommendations?  Comments?
 Thanks.


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Re: [MBZ] OT best paint stripper

2008-07-25 Thread Allan Streib
Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Allan wrote: What's the best stripper to use for this?

 I know a girl named Destiny that's pretty good.

I want to remove paint from a gas tank, not chrome from a trailer
hitch.

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Re: [MBZ] well heck...

2008-07-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:46:01 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 yea, I dont think I will be going up that way actually.  With my huge 
 diesel tank on the back, I should have enough fuel to get to you and 
 back without filling up.  Depends on how steep this mountain is and how 
 much fuel I burn up getting to the top.  Am real curious to find out how
 the Duramax does pulling a big hill like I assume I will be pulling out 
 that way.  I bet I dont even know Im pulling a trailer going up a big
 hill.

The one real big, noticable hill we have is south of Santa Fe on I-25. The
other routes are a lot of little ones after the other, except maybe for
the route from Clines Corners to Santa Fe on 285. I've driven that only
once, when we came here. It was at night and nearly 6 years ago.

It will be interesting to see how the Duramax does.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] WTF, diesel prices and gas

2008-07-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:07:02 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ours is down to 3.69 gas, 3.36 diesel, in OKC its 3.41 and 4.34.  Guess 
 I will fill the 100 gal tank in OKC instead of Tulsa before I head to
 NM.

Good thought. Here today it's 3.809 gas, 4.559 diesel.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] more New Mexico

2008-07-25 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:18:30 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So tell me about this Nuclear lab in Los Alamos, is this some tourist 
 thing of interest?

Well, it's certainly the focal point of a lot of world changing history.
The Bradbury museum is the tourist thing of interest, along with the Otowi
Station bookstore next door. I don't know if they're open on Sundays,
though.

Driving around the Lab will show you buildings and grounds (the Lab covers
43 square miles). I can take you in and show you some unclassified stuff
that we're doing, if you're interested.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] more New Mexico

2008-07-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
That might be interesting.

Craig McCluskey wrote:
 On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:18:30 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 So tell me about this Nuclear lab in Los Alamos, is this some tourist 
 thing of interest?
 
 Well, it's certainly the focal point of a lot of world changing history.
 The Bradbury museum is the tourist thing of interest, along with the Otowi
 Station bookstore next door. I don't know if they're open on Sundays,
 though.
 
 Driving around the Lab will show you buildings and grounds (the Lab covers
 43 square miles). I can take you in and show you some unclassified stuff
 that we're doing, if you're interested.
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] I cooked today

2008-07-25 Thread Robert Rentfro
Let me know how you feel in about three days.

Bob R

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Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 6:40 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] I cooked today

I spent most of the day out on a car lot.  Our company has started a new 
service for dealers where we basically maintain a data base of their 
inventory and feed it to various websites.  Im the guy leading up this 
project.  I forgot about sun screen.  Need I say more?
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  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
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Re: [MBZ] Short notice Get to Gether....

2008-07-25 Thread Robert Rentfro
Chuck

I have to work tomorrow. Can't turn down the double time.
Thanks for thinking of me.

Bob R

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Subject: [MBZ] Short notice Get to Gether

Rob,

A bunch of us are going to meet at Anzio Landing for lunch on  
Saturday 7/26, tomorrow..

Hope you can join us.  Here's a link to the map.

It's at Falcon Field in Mesa..

http://www.eventective.com/provider/map.aspx?num=42333

Take care and sorry for the  short leash

Chuck



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