Re: [MBZ] gourmet pickup restoration techniques

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:15:11 -0800 Jim Cathey 
wrote:

> > Got a little more done today.
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/don.benz/Bondo/#
> 
> Mister, you're perilously close to just welding those panels
> in there.  Go ahead, you know you want to!

But the whole point of apprenticing with someone is to learn, among other
things, the techniques of welding; he doesn't yet know how.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] replacing struts on a 201

[Mitch Haley]

Jim Cathey wrote:
Hey, I'm still looking for a strut to hold my RF wheel vertical on the 
190DT.

Doesn't have to have damping, just has to not be in two pieces.


I would think that shipping on a bad one would
be less than attractive.


If Kleb has a UPS account, I bet he can ship it to me for a lot less than $20.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[E M]

I like the first ad, "sit on it as an investment" ?  It ain't a Gullwing
buddy. lol

Why do people so often say, "make me an offer, but don't insult me", and yet
these same people feel quite comfortable insulting buyers with their asking
prices?  Hm

Can you tell I haven't had enough coffee today?  hee hee

Ed
300E

2009/3/22 Curt Raymond 

> He's run several, orginally he pitched it as an '86.
> This is the better one, more pics, more complete description. Its in the
> barter section.
> http://worcester.craigslist.org/bar/1076549671.html
>
> "Make cash offers but don't insult me" - posted the day before above
> http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/1075427174.html
>
> 11 days previous - notice 1986
> http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/1075427174.html
>
> Same day 3/3 - 1986
> http://worcester.craigslist.org/bar/1058400593.html
>
> I won't post them all, theres another 3/2, 2/27, 2/27, 2/23, 2/22...
>
> He's hungry.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:51:19 -0700
> From: Alex Chamberlain 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Message-ID:
> 
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> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond 
> wrote:
> >
> Yeah I sent him quite a stern email basically suggesting the reason his
> car hasn't sold is that he sounds like a scammer. I didn't expect a
> reply, was just tired of seeing his posts.
> > I'll check it out but I'm thinking of seeing how badly he'd freak at
> $2500...
> >
>
> Do you have a link to one of his CL posts?  Are there any pictures?
>
> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] replacing struts on a 201

[Jim Cathey]

Hey, I'm still looking for a strut to hold my RF wheel vertical on the 
190DT.

Doesn't have to have damping, just has to not be in two pieces.


I would think that shipping on a bad one would
be less than attractive.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] gourmet pickup restoration techniques

[Jim Cathey]

Got a little more done today.
http://picasaweb.google.com/don.benz/Bondo/#


Mister, you're perilously close to just welding those panels
in there.  Go ahead, you know you want to!

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] replacing struts on a 201

[OK Don]

You're an Okie - use a cinder block!

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> well, I have one, but I needed it to hold the wheel up on my parts car
>
>
> --
> OK Don
> W124 Diesels
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[Loren Faeth]

IF the staler was smart, that is how they do business ALL the 
time.  they always make more on used cars.


At 07:21 PM 3/22/2009, you wrote:

John Freer  writes:

> According to recent article in the WSJ, new car sales in the toilet,
> used car sales through the roofmakes sense now.

That's what one of my in-laws was telling me this weekend.  He works at
a dealership, and they are selling more used than new and making more
profit per car on used vs. new.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] gourmet pickup restoration techniques

[Rich Thomas]

A buddy of mine in Houston has a truck just like that, same color and 
all -- he loves it.


--R

Wonko the Sane wrote:

Got a little more done today.

http://picasaweb.google.com/don.benz/Bondo/#

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Wonko the Sane  wrote:

  

What does an big, empty can of extra virgin olive oil and a beater pickup
have in common?

http://don.homelinux.net/~don/bondo/<http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/bondo/>

Can't do more until tomorrow, at which time (weather/rain permitting) I
will sand and prime.



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[MBZ] I hate grommets

[Rich Thomas]

Not Wallace's dog, the rubber kind. 

So I got a new little rubber grommet for the antenna on the SD.  Getting 
the screw out of the bottom of the antenna assembly was a PITA with all 
the sh*t my wife had in the trunk, but got that loose.  Then trying to 
get that thing to fit in the hole with the little ridge to fit over the 
sheet metalwhat a total PITA.  I used a little piece of wood to try 
to work it in, and some silicone lube.  Not sure I got it in right, it 
was getting dark and I was getting hungry.  I guess I can deal with it 
when I take the antenna apart to get it working right.


I did unwind with a nice Codorniu Cava, mighty tasty stuff.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] gourmet pickup restoration techniques

[Wonko the Sane]

Got a little more done today.

http://picasaweb.google.com/don.benz/Bondo/#

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Wonko the Sane  wrote:

> What does an big, empty can of extra virgin olive oil and a beater pickup
> have in common?
>
> http://don.homelinux.net/~don/bondo/<http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/bondo/>
>
> Can't do more until tomorrow, at which time (weather/rain permitting) I
> will sand and prime.
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[Wilton Strickland]

Trade 'im your 240D.   ;<))

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "Curt Raymond" 
To: "Diesel List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?


He's run several, orginally he pitched it as an '86.
This is the better one, more pics, more complete description. Its in the
barter section.
http://worcester.craigslist.org/bar/1076549671.html

"Make cash offers but don't insult me" - posted the day before above
http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/1075427174.html

11 days previous - notice 1986
http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/1075427174.html

Same day 3/3 - 1986
http://worcester.craigslist.org/bar/1058400593.html

I won't post them all, theres another 3/2, 2/27, 2/27, 2/23, 2/22...

He's hungry.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:51:19 -0700
From: Alex Chamberlain 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Message-ID:

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On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>
Yeah I sent him quite a stern email basically suggesting the reason his
car hasn't sold is that he sounds like a scammer. I didn't expect a
reply, was just tired of seeing his posts.
> I'll check it out but I'm thinking of seeing how badly he'd freak at
$2500...
>

Do you have a link to one of his CL posts? Are there any pictures?

Alex



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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[Wilton Strickland]

"Lota people don't know 'bout the 30A fuse or can't find it.  It's not in
the box with the others; it's nearby in a little box in plain vew, but some
can't see it.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "Curt Raymond" 
To: "Diesel List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?


In his listing the seller says "it could be fuse or relay" to which I
replied "If it were the fuse you'd replace it because its cheap and easy so
its probably the fan" I'd forgotten this was a 30a fuse...

I was brutal in the email I sent him, I'm surprised he responded.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:13:36 -0500
From: "Wilton Strickland" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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Heater not working? 'You sure 12V getting past 30 Amp blower fuse?

Wilton



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Re: [MBZ] replacing struts on a 201

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

well, I have one, but I needed it to hold the wheel up on my parts car

Mitch Haley wrote:

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Looking at the 201 cd for strut removal, says you need a spring 
compressor, is that true?  Thought somebody here said you didnt need 
one just to replace the struts.  I have the one that works on what, 
the 123;s and 126's etc, will the same one work on the 201?


Hey, I'm still looking for a strut to hold my RF wheel vertical on the 
190DT.

Doesn't have to have damping, just has to not be in two pieces.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[Curt Raymond]

He's run several, orginally he pitched it as an '86.
This is the better one, more pics, more complete description. Its in the barter 
section.
http://worcester.craigslist.org/bar/1076549671.html

"Make cash offers but don't insult me" - posted the day before above
http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/1075427174.html

11 days previous - notice 1986
http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/1075427174.html

Same day 3/3 - 1986
http://worcester.craigslist.org/bar/1058400593.html

I won't post them all, theres another 3/2, 2/27, 2/27, 2/23, 2/22...

He's hungry.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:51:19 -0700
From: Alex Chamberlain 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>
Yeah I sent him quite a stern email basically suggesting the reason his
car hasn't sold is that he sounds like a scammer. I didn't expect a
reply, was just tired of seeing his posts.
> I'll check it out but I'm thinking of seeing how badly he'd freak at $2500...
>

Do you have a link to one of his CL posts?  Are there any pictures?

Alex


  
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[Curt Raymond]

Not here they aren't, car sales are slw. A friend in the market is looking 
at either a brand new Altima or an '07 Infiniti. Dealers for both cars are 
falling all over themselves bringing the price down. The Nissan dealers are 
$9000 under sticker. The Infiniti guy came down $1000 after my friend pointed 
out the car hadn't been detailed yet. He's going very slowly and gettng what 
seem to be excellent results.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:09:07 -0500
From: Peter Frederick 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
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It's still a very desirable and uncommon car -- 29 mpg on the highway  
and goes like a scalded cat, very reliable.  A year doesn't make that  
much difference, and if anything, used car prices are up from last  
year, not down.

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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[Curt Raymond]

In his listing the seller says "it could be fuse or relay" to which I replied 
"If it were the fuse you'd replace it because its cheap and easy so its 
probably the fan" I'd forgotten this was a 30a fuse...

I was brutal in the email I sent him, I'm surprised he responded.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:13:36 -0500
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Heater not working?  'You sure 12V getting past 30 Amp blower fuse?

Wilton


  
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[Mitch Haley]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
yea, you are right, a year and half ago, but now, EVERYTHING is much 
cheaper, like by half.  So if its a 6k car a 1.5 years ago, now its a 3k 
or less car.


Wait 'til gasoline hits $4 at the pump again, then anything "diesel" will 
increase in value, as long as eBay lore says that model gets 40-50mpg.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Spring

[E M]

Do what I did, try and get them to congregate in one area, put a cobblestone
edging around them and call it an English garden. lol

Ed
300E

2009/3/22 Wilton Strickland 

> Just mowed the back yard.  Trying to let the weeds know I'm still here.
>
> Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[E M]

I went to the local dealer to help look for the next one too.  Thing is, new
car sales are way off, so while they are interested in selling used now, as
used have always brought bigger profits for most dealers, where are they
sourcing the used cars from?  Most came from trade ins, and those just
aren't happening as often these days.  Even the dealer isn't interested in
something 10 years old or older, regardless of condition.  That leaves
everything else out there, from mint to junk up for grabs.  From the prices
I've seen, everything is way down.  If ppl aren't going to fork over money
for a new car, they're not going to over pay for an old car.  Remember, that
'87 300D is 22 years old.  No matter how you look at it, that's an OLD car!
Might be nice, but it's a nice 22 year old car.

I paid about $4500 for my high mileage gasser a couple of years ago. It was
very tidy, one owner with full dealer records.  Did I over pay, sure.  Could
I have got one for a thousand or two less, maybe, but not sure what it would
have cost me in time for the added trouble.  I got my money out of it as it
is.  What's it worth today, $500, maybe $1000 if the planets are all lined
up?  It's nice and clean, but it's a nice clean 21 year old car with 345,000
kms on it.  That's well past being "previously enjoyed", and into, buying
someone elses problems territory. lol  So far, it's been great, but you know
the big bills can't be too far around the corner. ;-)  People buying these
old cars, do, or sould keep that in mind too.

Ed
300E

2009/3/22 John Freer 

> According to recent article in the WSJ, new car sales in the toilet,
> used car sales through the roofmakes sense now.
>
> Local MB dealer never cared too much about used car sales. Now, they
> have a big used car center and advertise the heck out of it.
>
> John
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin 
> wrote:
> > Im not sure where you are, but in all other parts of the world, used car
> > prices are way down. Even rare and desirable cars are way way down.  In
> > fact, if its not an econo box something or other, its going to be way way
> > way down.
> >
> > Peter Frederick wrote:
> >>
> >> It's still a very desirable and uncommon car -- 29 mpg on the highway
> and
> >> goes like a scalded cat, very reliable.  A year doesn't make that much
> >> difference, and if anything, used car prices are up from last year, not
> >> down.
> >>
> >> Peter
> >
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> >  95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
> >  89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2,
> >  84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] replacing struts on a 201

[Mitch Haley]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Looking at the 201 cd for strut removal, says you need a spring 
compressor, is that true?  Thought somebody here said you didnt need one 
just to replace the struts.  I have the one that works on what, the 
123;s and 126's etc, will the same one work on the 201?


Hey, I'm still looking for a strut to hold my RF wheel vertical on the 190DT.
Doesn't have to have damping, just has to not be in two pieces.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 201 ball joints

[Jim Cathey]

OK, going to get the HF ball joint press, heck, I might just spring 
for the real deal.  Anyway, when using the HF press, what side pipes 
do I need to be looking for to use for pressing out the BJ?


All in my link!  (No longer in my brain.)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Transmission Klunking

[Mitch Haley]

Craig McCluskey wrote:


That's exactly what I was going to say, but then I noticed he said it
would not go back into SECOND gear.


I suspect this thing is supposed to drop down to 2nd at a stop and stay there 
unless you pull it into "L" or trip the kickdown switch.


The W116SD is supposed to drop into second at a stop, then drop into first as 
soon as you touch the throttle. I've got a bad kickdown solenoid, so I have to 
select "L" if I want first.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[Allan Streib]

John Freer  writes:

> According to recent article in the WSJ, new car sales in the toilet,
> used car sales through the roofmakes sense now.

That's what one of my in-laws was telling me this weekend.  He works at
a dealership, and they are selling more used than new and making more
profit per car on used vs. new.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[John Freer]

According to recent article in the WSJ, new car sales in the toilet,
used car sales through the roofmakes sense now.

Local MB dealer never cared too much about used car sales. Now, they
have a big used car center and advertise the heck out of it.

John

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> Im not sure where you are, but in all other parts of the world, used car
> prices are way down. Even rare and desirable cars are way way down.  In
> fact, if its not an econo box something or other, its going to be way way
> way down.
>
> Peter Frederick wrote:
>>
>> It's still a very desirable and uncommon car -- 29 mpg on the highway and
>> goes like a scalded cat, very reliable.  A year doesn't make that much
>> difference, and if anything, used car prices are up from last year, not
>> down.
>>
>> Peter
>
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>  89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2,
>  84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,
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[MBZ] Electric Windows

[LarryT]

I have become even more frustrated with the electr windows.  Have been 
trying to troubleshoot the drivers window - there is no power to any of the 
wires going to the console switch!  I have triple checked that the wiring is 
done correctly and the motor works.


So I will likely switch to manual window windows.
Getting tired of putting more time into this...

Also - checked the backupLight/neutral lockout switch and it appears to be 
dead.  It's located on the side of the Auto Tranny where the shift linkage 
enters the tranny.  Also checked the shift bushings and all are in great 
condition - I had replaced them 40k miles ago, perhaps less.


So I need a new switch.

Thanks to all who helped with comments & suggestions -

LarryT
78 240D
91 300D
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wolf Stoves

[MG]

What I have is a gunlike orange thing with a white trigger and a 5" long 
metal barrel. It was made by Junkers and I believe this is the patent 
for it  http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3576471.html . I can't find any 
on the net but I did find this 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B0010VSTO2/ref=dp_olp_2


and this
http://thecookskitchen.com/browse_2047

or this
http://www.coghlanscampinggear.com/copili.html

Never used any of these so I don't know how good they are. If you know 
anyone in Germany they probably still sell the junkers one in stores 
over there.


Manfred











Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:26:59 -0400
From: Allan Streib 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wolf Stoves


Is there a brand name on it?  I've searched for those but can't seem to
hit upon the right search terms.  I've tried using the long-necked
lighters but once they run out of gas, the piezo spark by itself is
either too enclosed or too small to quickly and reliably ignite the
stove burner.

Allan

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[MBZ] 201 ball joints

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

OK, going to get the HF ball joint press, heck, I might just spring for 
the real deal.  Anyway, when using the HF press, what side pipes do I 
need to be looking for to use for pressing out the BJ?

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 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,
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Re: [MBZ] replacing struts on a 201

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I got it done, just ended up swapping out one side from one off a parts 
car.  The other side on the parts car didnt seem any better than then 
one on the car it would have moved to.  I think I just had 1 really bad 
side.  Planning on replacing with new soon anyway.  Need to do the ball 
joints bad, the boots are gone completely.


Peter Frederick wrote:
Put the car on jack stands by putting the jack stand in the access hole 
in the control arm.  You will probably have to compress the strut some, 
but not much.


DO NOT leave the control arm hanging free just supported by a floor jack 
-- if it slips (which is likely, there isn't a flat spot on the bottom 
anywhere) or the jack leaks down, the spring will pop out.


This is not funny, as it's compressed several inches at full control arm 
extension.


Put the jack stand under the control arm and it's an easy job, done it 
many times now.  You can replace the ball joints in the same way.


Peter



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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Im not sure where you are, but in all other parts of the world, used car 
prices are way down. Even rare and desirable cars are way way down.  In 
fact, if its not an econo box something or other, its going to be way 
way way down.


Peter Frederick wrote:
It's still a very desirable and uncommon car -- 29 mpg on the highway 
and goes like a scalded cat, very reliable.  A year doesn't make that 
much difference, and if anything, used car prices are up from last year, 
not down.


Peter


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 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Spring

[Wilton Strickland]

They won't frustrate me - they're just a green and natural part of my lawn.

Wilton

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Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Spring


> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:34:43 -0500 "Wilton Strickland" 
> wrote:
>
> > Just mowed the back yard.  Trying to let the weeds know I'm still here.
>
> They don't care. They'll just scheme and connive and work their way around
> you and your lawn mower, doing everything in their power to frustrate you
> by their propagation.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Spring

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:34:43 -0500 "Wilton Strickland" 
wrote:

> Just mowed the back yard.  Trying to let the weeds know I'm still here.

They don't care. They'll just scheme and connive and work their way around
you and your lawn mower, doing everything in their power to frustrate you
by their propagation.


Craig

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[MBZ] OT - Spring

[Wilton Strickland]

Just mowed the back yard.  Trying to let the weeds know I'm still here.

Wilton

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[MBZ] Truck for Wacko Engine ID

[Dan Weeks]

On Mar 21, 2009, at 9:58 AM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:


Guy got quite the deal on paint huh?

Looks to be a truck engine...


It IS a truck and bus engine-- an OM 314 (4 cyl, 4 liter, 90 hp), the  
very engine my friend was looking for for his 309 bus. I've forwarded  
the listing to him. Not sure he's getting his email (he travels a lot)  
or would be interested in the whole truck, so if anyone else wants it,  
bid away. That's a very strong mill, and quite economical for its  
grunt, but not fast. Those 90 horses are Percherons, not ponies. I'm  
not surprised only gear one is left if he's been hauling rock with it.


Dan




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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[kevin kraly]

this would mean that my 83 300SD is now  worth $750!  I may be able to get a 
little over a grand since it has a new right lower balljoint and a new 
header.


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> Yeah I sent him quite a stern email basically suggesting the reason his car 
> hasn't sold is that he sounds like a scammer. I didn't expect a reply, was 
> just tired of seeing his posts.
> I'll check it out but I'm thinking of seeing how badly he'd freak at $2500...
>

Do you have a link to one of his CL posts?  Are there any pictures?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[Curt Raymond]

Yeah I sent him quite a stern email basically suggesting the reason his car 
hasn't sold is that he sounds like a scammer. I didn't expect a reply, was just 
tired of seeing his posts.
I'll check it out but I'm thinking of seeing how badly he'd freak at $2500...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:31:41 -0500
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?
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Well the 1st year for the 124 in the US was 86.  87 is the only year for 
the 603 124.  They are great cars as long as A: if it has the original 
14 head it has not been overheated and has no cooling system issues, or 
B: has had the head replaced with a 17 or higher head. Other normal 124 
stuff applies.  For 5k, the car should have perfect paint, NO rust, 
perfect interior, no cracks in the dash, all the windows should work, 
the AC should work, the climate control should work perfect, should not 
leak or burn anything.  If it needs a heater fan, and a seat belt, what 
else does it need he is not saying?  Car is probably way overpriced Im sure.

Curt Raymond wrote:
> Anybody got an opinion on the '87 300D?  First year of the 124 here right?
>
Guy on Craig's has one, its been on for several weeks now. Needs a
heater fan and probably a belt tensioner (says it makes a squeak
sometimes, might just be a bad belt I guess) otherwise supposed to be
real good.
> He's asking $5000 obo but admits he knows nothing
about the car and was given it or something, says somebody told him to
ask that much.
> 
> Anything I should look for specifically other than rust rust rust?
> 
> -Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking

[OK Don]

Ahh - Ice Cream !

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Wonko the Sane  wrote:

>
> http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/sources-of-vitamin-b12-in-your-vegetarian-diet.html
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Archer  wrote:
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> > Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] replacing struts on a 201

[Peter Frederick]

Put the car on jack stands by putting the jack stand in the access  
hole in the control arm.  You will probably have to compress the  
strut some, but not much.


DO NOT leave the control arm hanging free just supported by a floor  
jack -- if it slips (which is likely, there isn't a flat spot on the  
bottom anywhere) or the jack leaks down, the spring will pop out.


This is not funny, as it's compressed several inches at full control  
arm extension.


Put the jack stand under the control arm and it's an easy job, done  
it many times now.  You can replace the ball joints in the same way.


Peter

On Mar 22, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

So did you put the car on jack stands, then put a floor jack under  
the arm and just lower it enough to get the strut out, or I guess  
you probably didnt even have to lower the jack now that I think  
about it, strut just unbolts and you can pull it out regardless of  
control arm position.


Jim Cathey wrote:
Looking at the 201 cd for strut removal, says you need a spring  
compressor, is that true?

No.  Though I have the Klann, and I have replaced both struts in
the 190D, I've never had to introduce these two items to each other.
Floor jack was the only special tool involved in the strut  
replacement.

http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb190dlog.html#30Aug2008
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[Peter Frederick]

It's still a very desirable and uncommon car -- 29 mpg on the highway  
and goes like a scalded cat, very reliable.  A year doesn't make that  
much difference, and if anything, used car prices are up from last  
year, not down.


Peter

On Mar 22, 2009, at 1:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

yea, you are right, a year and half ago, but now, EVERYTHING is  
much cheaper, like by half.  So if its a 6k car a 1.5 years ago,  
now its a 3k or less car.


Peter Frederick wrote:
Actually, that's about median price for one -- they reanged from  
$3000 to $8000 a year and a half ago when I was replacing mine.   
Perfect paint, no AC issues, no dash crack, no oil consumption,  
and good tranny, etc.  will go for $6000 and up.
5 grand is about what I paid for mine, although I'd have spent  
less if I'd known about the bad AC compressor (and bad pushbutton  
unit) and the blowby.  New head, though.

Peter


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 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> yea, you are right, a year and half ago, but now, EVERYTHING is much
> cheaper, like by half.  So if its a 6k car a 1.5 years ago, now its a 3k or
> less car.

Yeah, that's what I was going to say.  If someone offered me anywhere
near $5K for my '87 I would take it and run, and I bet mine is in
better shape than the one Curt's looking at---W Coast car so no rust,
recent head, recent complete suspension replacement (I think every
early 124 on the road now either has had all the rear links replaced
or needs them).

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo et al.

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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[Wilton Strickland]

Heater not working?  'You sure 12V getting past 30 Amp blower fuse?

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?


> yea, you are right, a year and half ago, but now, EVERYTHING is much
> cheaper, like by half.  So if its a 6k car a 1.5 years ago, now its a 3k
> or less car.
>
> Peter Frederick wrote:
> > Actually, that's about median price for one -- they reanged from $3000
> > to $8000 a year and a half ago when I was replacing mine.  Perfect
> > paint, no AC issues, no dash crack, no oil consumption, and good tranny,
> > etc.  will go for $6000 and up.
> >
> > 5 grand is about what I paid for mine, although I'd have spent less if
> > I'd known about the bad AC compressor (and bad pushbutton unit) and the
> > blowby.  New head, though.
> >
> > Peter
>
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>   89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2,
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[John Robbins]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
yea, you are right, a year and half ago, but now, EVERYTHING is much 
cheaper, like by half.  So if its a 6k car a 1.5 years ago, now its a 3k 
or less car.


This is almost true on my CDI... :-(   In a normal market, I was at the 
perfect point to buy a car.  It had already depreciated 50%, and after 
that they  usually don't depreciate anywhere near as fast.  Guess I had 
my timing wrong!  Oh well... live and learn.


John

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Re: [MBZ] replacing struts on a 201

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

So did you put the car on jack stands, then put a floor jack under the 
arm and just lower it enough to get the strut out, or I guess you 
probably didnt even have to lower the jack now that I think about it, 
strut just unbolts and you can pull it out regardless of control arm 
position.


Jim Cathey wrote:
Looking at the 201 cd for strut removal, says you need a spring 
compressor, is that true?


No.  Though I have the Klann, and I have replaced both struts in
the 190D, I've never had to introduce these two items to each other.
Floor jack was the only special tool involved in the strut replacement.

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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yea, you are right, a year and half ago, but now, EVERYTHING is much 
cheaper, like by half.  So if its a 6k car a 1.5 years ago, now its a 3k 
or less car.


Peter Frederick wrote:
Actually, that's about median price for one -- they reanged from $3000 
to $8000 a year and a half ago when I was replacing mine.  Perfect 
paint, no AC issues, no dash crack, no oil consumption, and good tranny, 
etc.  will go for $6000 and up.


5 grand is about what I paid for mine, although I'd have spent less if 
I'd known about the bad AC compressor (and bad pushbutton unit) and the 
blowby.  New head, though.


Peter


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Re: [MBZ] replacing struts on a 201

[Jim Cathey]

Looking at the 201 cd for strut removal, says you need a spring 
compressor, is that true?


No.  Though I have the Klann, and I have replaced both struts in
the 190D, I've never had to introduce these two items to each other.
Floor jack was the only special tool involved in the strut replacement.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wolf Stoves

[Allan Streib]

MG  writes:

> I don't like pilot lights because they are on all the time. That
> wastes fuel. I turned the pilots off on our stove as soon as we got
> it, except for the oven, and use one of those pizo spark lighters. No
> fuel to use or fill, no matches to find and one hand use. Just pull
> the trigger when the gas is on and the spark lights the stove. I got
> it over 25 years ago while I was in Europe and it still works just as
> nice as when new.

Is there a brand name on it?  I've searched for those but can't seem to
hit upon the right search terms.  I've tried using the long-necked
lighters but once they run out of gas, the piezo spark by itself is
either too enclosed or too small to quickly and reliably ignite the
stove burner.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[Wilton Strickland]

$9700 for my showroom-condition one with 82 kmi in Aug '04.  Paint,
interior, rubber door/window seals like new - spent most of it's life in
darkened garage in Winston-Salem, NC, 'til I bought it.  I've replaced
alternator (pulley came off), serp belt, belt tensioner shock and, as you
know, evaporator.  Still no dings, scratches, rubs, cracks, etc., and has
orig head at 112 kmi.  Drives and rides MIGHTY good, but not as good as my
126.

BTW, heater/cooling fan can be replaced from front side under wiper
assembly - don't have to do the evapectomy operation for just the fan,
though that may come later, anyway.

Wilton

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To: "Diesel List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 10:26 AM
Subject: [MBZ] '87 300D?


Anybody got an opinion on the '87 300D? First year of the 124 here right?
Guy on Craig's has one, its been on for several weeks now. Needs a heater
fan and probably a belt tensioner (says it makes a squeak sometimes, might
just be a bad belt I guess) otherwise supposed to be real good.
He's asking $5000 obo but admits he knows nothing about the car and was
given it or something, says somebody told him to ask that much.

Anything I should look for specifically other than rust rust rust?

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[E M]

Thinks have changed, a LOT over the past year and a half, haven't they. :-)

Ed
300E

2009/3/22 Peter Frederick 

> Actually, that's about median price for one -- they reanged from $3000 to
> $8000 a year and a half ago when I was replacing mine.  Perfect paint, no AC
> issues, no dash crack, no oil consumption, and good tranny, etc.  will go
> for $6000 and up.
>
> 5 grand is about what I paid for mine, although I'd have spent less if I'd
> known about the bad AC compressor (and bad pushbutton unit) and the blowby.
>  New head, though.
>
> Peter
>
> On Mar 22, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>
>  Well the 1st year for the 124 in the US was 86.  87 is the only year for
>> the 603 124.  They are great cars as long as A: if it has the original 14
>> head it has not been overheated and has no cooling system issues, or B: has
>> had the head replaced with a 17 or higher head. Other normal 124 stuff
>> applies.  For 5k, the car should have perfect paint, NO rust, perfect
>> interior, no cracks in the dash, all the windows should work, the AC should
>> work, the climate control should work perfect, should not leak or burn
>> anything.  If it needs a heater fan, and a seat belt, what else does it need
>> he is not saying?  Car is probably way overpriced Im sure.
>>
>> Curt Raymond wrote:
>>
>>> Anybody got an opinion on the '87 300D?  First year of the 124 here
>>> right?
>>> Guy on Craig's has one, its been on for several weeks now. Needs a heater
>>> fan and probably a belt tensioner (says it makes a squeak sometimes, might
>>> just be a bad belt I guess) otherwise supposed to be real good.
>>> He's asking $5000 obo but admits he knows nothing about the car and was
>>> given it or something, says somebody told him to ask that much.
>>> Anything I should look for specifically other than rust rust rust?
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[E M]

Don't think rust is that big of an issue, unless the car was poorly repaired
in the past, or not taken care of.

As things are today, I think $5000 for such a car is pretty much wishful
thinking.  If it is a $5000 car, it will be near perfect with a big stack of
service notes over the years to back up all claims of work, and rust and
interior won't be an issue, as it will have probably lived indoors when not
out in nice weather. :-)

Ed
300E

2009/3/22 Curt Raymond 

> Anybody got an opinion on the '87 300D?  First year of the 124 here right?
> Guy on Craig's has one, its been on for several weeks now. Needs a heater
> fan and probably a belt tensioner (says it makes a squeak sometimes, might
> just be a bad belt I guess) otherwise supposed to be real good.
> He's asking $5000 obo but admits he knows nothing about the car and was
> given it or something, says somebody told him to ask that much.
>
> Anything I should look for specifically other than rust rust rust?
>
> -Curt
>
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[Peter Frederick]

Actually, that's about median price for one -- they reanged from  
$3000 to $8000 a year and a half ago when I was replacing mine.   
Perfect paint, no AC issues, no dash crack, no oil consumption, and  
good tranny, etc.  will go for $6000 and up.


5 grand is about what I paid for mine, although I'd have spent less  
if I'd known about the bad AC compressor (and bad pushbutton unit)  
and the blowby.  New head, though.


Peter

On Mar 22, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Well the 1st year for the 124 in the US was 86.  87 is the only  
year for the 603 124.  They are great cars as long as A: if it has  
the original 14 head it has not been overheated and has no cooling  
system issues, or B: has had the head replaced with a 17 or higher  
head. Other normal 124 stuff applies.  For 5k, the car should have  
perfect paint, NO rust, perfect interior, no cracks in the dash,  
all the windows should work, the AC should work, the climate  
control should work perfect, should not leak or burn anything.  If  
it needs a heater fan, and a seat belt, what else does it need he  
is not saying?  Car is probably way overpriced Im sure.


Curt Raymond wrote:
Anybody got an opinion on the '87 300D?  First year of the 124  
here right?
Guy on Craig's has one, its been on for several weeks now. Needs a  
heater fan and probably a belt tensioner (says it makes a squeak  
sometimes, might just be a bad belt I guess) otherwise supposed to  
be real good.
He's asking $5000 obo but admits he knows nothing about the car  
and was given it or something, says somebody told him to ask that  
much.

Anything I should look for specifically other than rust rust rust?
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Transmission Klunking

[Bob Rentfro]

Exactly.

Bob R

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> I think he is saying his will not downshift all the way to 2nd.  But yes,
> you are right, his should normally drop to 2nd and start out in 2nd unless
> the kickdown switch is hit or its shifted down to low.
>
>
> Jim Cathey wrote:
>
>> So now, after the car ('77 300D auto, 202K) is up to NOP/NOT, when I stop
>>> at
>>> a light the car will not go back down into second gear after coming to a
>>> stopunless I give it a little fuel. Then it klunks down into gear. M1
>>> ATF is 15K old, looks/smells good, level SAT.
>>> What the heck is going on?
>>>
>>
>> A lot of MB's were built that way on purpose, to avoid a tendency
>> to 'creep' while stopped.  Could this be one of them?
>>
>> The 1979 240D I sold (the Albatross) would _not_ go into first
>> gear unless you either floored it or manually selected 'L'.  This,
>> also, was apparently deliberate.
>>
>> -- Jim
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Transmission Klunking

[Bob Rentfro]

ooops...work creeping in.
Normal Operating Pressure/Normal Operating Temperature

I'll try placing it in L and see what happens.

Bob R

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Craig McCluskey  wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:22:16 -0700 Bob Rentfro  wrote:
>
>
> > So now, after the car ('77 300D auto, 202K) is up to NOP/NOT,
>
> NOP/NOT? What is that?
>
>
> > when I stop at a light the car will not go back down into second gear
> > after coming to a stopunless I give it a little fuel. Then it klunks
> > down into gear. M1 ATF is 15K old, looks/smells good, level SAT.
> > What the heck is going on?
>
> What happens when you put it in L while stopped?
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Transmission Klunking

[Bob Rentfro]

Only does it when it's warm...

Bob R

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

>  So now, after the car ('77 300D auto, 202K) is up to NOP/NOT, when I stop
>> at
>> a light the car will not go back down into second gear after coming to a
>> stopunless I give it a little fuel. Then it klunks down into gear. M1
>> ATF is 15K old, looks/smells good, level SAT.
>> What the heck is going on?
>>
>
> A lot of MB's were built that way on purpose, to avoid a tendency
> to 'creep' while stopped.  Could this be one of them?
>
> The 1979 240D I sold (the Albatross) would _not_ go into first
> gear unless you either floored it or manually selected 'L'.  This,
> also, was apparently deliberate.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking

[Wonko the Sane]

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/sources-of-vitamin-b12-in-your-vegetarian-diet.html

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> How do you get your vitamin B-12 and Folic Acid?
> Gerry
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[MBZ] 560SL

[Rich Thomas]

This guy has had this SL on CL for a few months, I think I have seen the 
car but not sure.


http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1086424463.html

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Re: [MBZ] '87 300D?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well the 1st year for the 124 in the US was 86.  87 is the only year for 
the 603 124.  They are great cars as long as A: if it has the original 
14 head it has not been overheated and has no cooling system issues, or 
B: has had the head replaced with a 17 or higher head. Other normal 124 
stuff applies.  For 5k, the car should have perfect paint, NO rust, 
perfect interior, no cracks in the dash, all the windows should work, 
the AC should work, the climate control should work perfect, should not 
leak or burn anything.  If it needs a heater fan, and a seat belt, what 
else does it need he is not saying?  Car is probably way overpriced Im sure.


Curt Raymond wrote:

Anybody got an opinion on the '87 300D?  First year of the 124 here right?
Guy on Craig's has one, its been on for several weeks now. Needs a heater fan 
and probably a belt tensioner (says it makes a squeak sometimes, might just be 
a bad belt I guess) otherwise supposed to be real good.
He's asking $5000 obo but admits he knows nothing about the car and was given 
it or something, says somebody told him to ask that much.

Anything I should look for specifically other than rust rust rust?

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:25:15 -0400 Rich Thomas
 wrote:

> If you coat that beef in some flour/pepper and brown it in some olive 
> oil or some such before cooking it, rather than just boiling it 
> straightaway, you will get lots more flavor and the flour will thicken 
> things up a bit too as it all cooks.

I thought about browning the beef, but decided against it as too much
extra work. It turned out wonderful as it is, but I'll keep browning in
flour in mind for next time. This was my first time making beef soup; I
usually only make turkey soup the day after Thanksgiving (a tradition in
our house).


> Veggie soup -- go to the store or farm stand and get whatever they have 
> fresh. This time of year root veggies are good, as is cabbage.  Get some
> 
> frozen veggies (much better than canned, and cheaper) like beans, corn, 
> spinach, kale, okra, etc. and dump it all in a pot.  Add a fair amount 
> of canned tomato juice, paste, crushed, chopped, whatever to give liquid
> (and salt, but no extra salt).  THEN, the thing that will really set it 
> off and have people asking "m what is in that?" is to dump in a bit 
> of chile powder, some Jamaican curry powder, and just a small bit of 
> cinnamon (you really don't want to taste the cinnamon, but just a hint 
> will add some really interesting flavor).  I like to make mine more like
> 
> a stew, not too liquidy, but YMMV.  If you REALLY want to make it yummy 
> good, take some of all those root veggies, cut up in chunks, toss with 
> some olive oil and garlic and pepper and maybe herbs de provence and 
> just a touch of salt, put them in a big pan and bake them for 3-45 min 
> in the oven to roast them up, stir them a coupla times, then toss them 
> in the soup.  The roasting really concentrates the flavors and the 
> sugars -- this is good too just as a side dish instead of boring spuds 
> or boiled/steamed  veggies.
> 
> A nice thick dense bread of some sort goes well with it.
> 
> --R
> 
> Craig McCluskey wrote:
> > I can't really top Don's gourmet pickup restoration techniques, but I
> > did have a good time cooking today.
> >
> > Yesterday, Shirley boiled some beef ribs (which were on sale at the
> > local Smith's) so she could then freeze them and have them on standby
> > when she needs something relatively easy for dinner (defrost, slather
> > with barbecue sauce, broil until nice and bubbly, serve). Well, she
> > had this left over pot of beef broth. Too good to throw away.
> >
> > So today I went to Smiths, got some chuck steak for $1.79/#, carrots,
> > celery, mushrooms, a couple of white potatoes, and Roma tomatoes (we
> > had onions at home). At home I chopped up the beef and put it in the
> > pot to boil while we chopped up vegetables. After letting the beef
> > cook for awhile, we threw all the vegetables in and let it boil for a
> > few hours, adding replacement water periodically. I then threw in
> > salt, black pepper, and some other spices which I forget at the
> > moment. Ready in time for dinner and it was great. We put the
> > remainder in containers and put them in the freezer. Ten meals for the
> > two of us for about $15. Such a deal.
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wolf Stoves

[MG]

I don't like pilot lights because they are on all the time. That wastes 
fuel. I turned the pilots off on our stove as soon as we got it, except 
for the oven, and use one of those pizo spark lighters. No fuel to use 
or fill, no matches to find and one hand use. Just pull the trigger when 
the gas is on and the spark lights the stove. I got it over 25 years ago 
while I was in Europe and it still works just as nice as when new.


Manfred



Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:37:14 -0400
From: Allan Streib 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Wolf Stoves



Yeah the electronic ignitors are a pain.  Fail all the time.  I prefer a
standing pilot or just a match light.  Keep it simple.

Allan

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[MBZ] '87 300D?

[Curt Raymond]

Anybody got an opinion on the '87 300D?  First year of the 124 here right?
Guy on Craig's has one, its been on for several weeks now. Needs a heater fan 
and probably a belt tensioner (says it makes a squeak sometimes, might just be 
a bad belt I guess) otherwise supposed to be real good.
He's asking $5000 obo but admits he knows nothing about the car and was given 
it or something, says somebody told him to ask that much.

Anything I should look for specifically other than rust rust rust?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking

[Rich Thomas]

If you coat that beef in some flour/pepper and brown it in some olive 
oil or some such before cooking it, rather than just boiling it 
straightaway, you will get lots more flavor and the flour will thicken 
things up a bit too as it all cooks.


Veggie soup -- go to the store or farm stand and get whatever they have 
fresh. This time of year root veggies are good, as is cabbage.  Get some 
frozen veggies (much better than canned, and cheaper) like beans, corn, 
spinach, kale, okra, etc. and dump it all in a pot.  Add a fair amount 
of canned tomato juice, paste, crushed, chopped, whatever to give liquid 
(and salt, but no extra salt).  THEN, the thing that will really set it 
off and have people asking "m what is in that?" is to dump in a bit 
of chile powder, some Jamaican curry powder, and just a small bit of 
cinnamon (you really don't want to taste the cinnamon, but just a hint 
will add some really interesting flavor).  I like to make mine more like 
a stew, not too liquidy, but YMMV.  If you REALLY want to make it yummy 
good, take some of all those root veggies, cut up in chunks, toss with 
some olive oil and garlic and pepper and maybe herbs de provence and 
just a touch of salt, put them in a big pan and bake them for 3-45 min 
in the oven to roast them up, stir them a coupla times, then toss them 
in the soup.  The roasting really concentrates the flavors and the 
sugars -- this is good too just as a side dish instead of boring spuds 
or boiled/steamed  veggies.


A nice thick dense bread of some sort goes well with it.

--R

Craig McCluskey wrote:

I can't really top Don's gourmet pickup restoration techniques, but I did
have a good time cooking today.

Yesterday, Shirley boiled some beef ribs (which were on sale at the local
Smith's) so she could then freeze them and have them on standby when she
needs something relatively easy for dinner (defrost, slather with barbecue
sauce, broil until nice and bubbly, serve). Well, she had this left over
pot of beef broth. Too good to throw away.

So today I went to Smiths, got some chuck steak for $1.79/#, carrots,
celery, mushrooms, a couple of white potatoes, and Roma tomatoes (we had
onions at home). At home I chopped up the beef and put it in the pot to
boil while we chopped up vegetables. After letting the beef cook for
awhile, we threw all the vegetables in and let it boil for a few hours,
adding replacement water periodically. I then threw in salt, black pepper,
and some other spices which I forget at the moment. Ready in time for
dinner and it was great. We put the remainder in containers and put them
in the freezer. Ten meals for the two of us for about $15. Such a deal.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] gourmet pickup restoration techniques

[Curt Raymond]

Oh man are you from Mass or what? Geez you didn't even cut the rust out first...

This is not a "forever truck" I take it...

-Curt

Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:41:56 -0500
From: Wonko the Sane 
Subject: [MBZ] gourmet pickup restoration techniques
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What does an big, empty can of extra virgin olive oil and a beater pickup
have in common?

http://don.homelinux.net/~don/bondo/

Can't do more until tomorrow, at which time (weather/rain permitting) I will
sand and prime.


  
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Re: [MBZ] an idea -- and perhaps a stupid one (me being me)

[Wilton Strickland]

I've always thought that the greatest thing in life would be to be able to
enjoy your job.  Congratulations.

Wilton

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Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] an idea -- and perhaps a stupid one (me being me)


> I really enjoy my job. I might be in the minority here, but I seldom wake
up
> and say, "Good God, I have to go to the damn'd office." I am required to
be
> at work by 8:00 AM, but by 8:00 most workdays, I've already arrived,
brewed
> a cup of tea, fed the fish in my office aquarium, checked my emails (work
> and home accounts), read the Washington Post and Des Moines Register front
> pages (online), and tuned WinAmp to SmoothJazz.com or NPR streaming audio.
I
> try to be at work by 7:30 AM, 7:45 AM at the latest. My timesheet says I
> arrived at 8:00 AM.
>
> I guess I get enough "vacation" on Saturday and Sunday. By Monday, I am
> ready to go back to the office.
>
> I did take a week off a couple of years ago when my son got married in
> Virginia. But I don't think I've done that since. Only vacation time in
> recent memory was the day I took off to watch the election returns
(meaning,
> I stayed up late and didn't go into the office the next day, but in fact
did
> go in at noon).
>
>  Rick Knoble  wrote:
>
> >
> > Btw, why don't you use your vacation time every year?
> >
> > Rick Knoble
> > '85 300 CD
> > '87 190 DT
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Re: [MBZ] gourmet pickup restoration techniques

[Rich Thomas]

You should just leave it like that -- it's better than microwave oven metal.

--R

Wonko the Sane wrote:

What does an big, empty can of extra virgin olive oil and a beater pickup
have in common?

http://don.homelinux.net/~don/bondo/

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[MBZ] replacing struts on a 201

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Looking at the 201 cd for strut removal, says you need a spring 
compressor, is that true?  Thought somebody here said you didnt need one 
just to replace the struts.  I have the one that works on what, the 
123;s and 126's etc, will the same one work on the 201?

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Transmission Klunking

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I think he is saying his will not downshift all the way to 2nd.  But 
yes, you are right, his should normally drop to 2nd and start out in 2nd 
unless the kickdown switch is hit or its shifted down to low.


Jim Cathey wrote:
So now, after the car ('77 300D auto, 202K) is up to NOP/NOT, when I 
stop at

a light the car will not go back down into second gear after coming to a
stopunless I give it a little fuel. Then it klunks down into gear. M1
ATF is 15K old, looks/smells good, level SAT.
What the heck is going on?


A lot of MB's were built that way on purpose, to avoid a tendency
to 'creep' while stopped.  Could this be one of them?

The 1979 240D I sold (the Albatross) would _not_ go into first
gear unless you either floored it or manually selected 'L'.  This,
also, was apparently deliberate.

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Transmission Klunking

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:34:39 -0800 Jim Cathey 
wrote:

> > So now, after the car ('77 300D auto, 202K) is up to NOP/NOT, when I 
> > stop at
> > a light the car will not go back down into second gear after coming to
> > 
> > a
> > stopunless I give it a little fuel. Then it klunks down into gear.
> > 
> > M1
> > ATF is 15K old, looks/smells good, level SAT.
> > What the heck is going on?
> 
> A lot of MB's were built that way on purpose, to avoid a tendency
> to 'creep' while stopped.  Could this be one of them?
> 
> The 1979 240D I sold (the Albatross) would _not_ go into first
> gear unless you either floored it or manually selected 'L'.  This,
> also, was apparently deliberate.

That's exactly what I was going to say, but then I noticed he said it
would not go back into SECOND gear.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Transmission Klunking

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:22:16 -0700 Bob Rentfro  wrote:


> So now, after the car ('77 300D auto, 202K) is up to NOP/NOT, 

NOP/NOT? What is that?


> when I stop at a light the car will not go back down into second gear
> after coming to a stopunless I give it a little fuel. Then it klunks
> down into gear. M1 ATF is 15K old, looks/smells good, level SAT.
> What the heck is going on?

What happens when you put it in L while stopped?


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Transmission Klunking

[Jim Cathey]

So now, after the car ('77 300D auto, 202K) is up to NOP/NOT, when I 
stop at
a light the car will not go back down into second gear after coming to 
a
stopunless I give it a little fuel. Then it klunks down into gear. 
M1

ATF is 15K old, looks/smells good, level SAT.
What the heck is going on?


A lot of MB's were built that way on purpose, to avoid a tendency
to 'creep' while stopped.  Could this be one of them?

The 1979 240D I sold (the Albatross) would _not_ go into first
gear unless you either floored it or manually selected 'L'.  This,
also, was apparently deliberate.

-- Jim



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[MBZ] Fwd: Transmission Klunking

[Bob Rentfro]

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From: Bob Rentfro 
Date: Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Subject: Transmission Klunking
To: Banned List 


So now, after the car ('77 300D auto, 202K) is up to NOP/NOT, when I stop at
a light the car will not go back down into second gear after coming to a
stopunless I give it a little fuel. Then it klunks down into gear. M1
ATF is 15K old, looks/smells good, level SAT.
What the heck is going on?

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Electric to Manual Window Lifts?

[Dimitri Seretakis]

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Electric to Manual Window Lifts?

[LarryT]

Dimitri wrote <<240D with manual everything is worth more >>

I think a lot of people would feel that way too, I sure do.Manual 
eliminates so many potential problems and troubleshooting is much easier 
IMO.  I know some people have electricty in their veins and working on 30 
year old electrical systems is 2nd nature - but it's a chore for me. I spent 
a couple of hours studying the wiring diagram & making a sketch because I 
knew I needed to confirm the wires in the plugs for the console switches 
were in the right place in the plugs.  I found one which I knew had *not* 
been disturbed during the 20 years I've owned this car and the wiring did 
not match the WD.  But I put it the way the WD said - thinking things may 
work better like that.  The passenger Front works but not the pass. rear.


Tried the drivers window and immediately popped the fuse - put 12V on the 
motor leads thinking it may be shorted and the motor turns like crazy.  So 
it's not the motor even tho I saw a broken copper wire on the armature. 
WTF??  seems like it wouldn't work at all with a broken wire.  So now I must 
find out why the fuse blew - no easy task IMO -


Oh well, who knows?  maybe it'll be an obvious short.  ;-\

LarryT
78 240D
91 300D

- Original Message - 
From: "Dimitri Seretakis" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Electric to Manual Window Lifts?


It seems that a 240D with manual everything is worth more than one with 
automatic everything


--- On Sat, 3/21/09, LarryT  wrote:

From: LarryT 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Electric to Manual Window Lifts?
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 3:29 PM

Hi Ed,
Yeah, all the MBs shipped to the US got the Christmas Tree treatment - 
meaning all the bells and whistles. It was very rare to have any choices 
when ordering a new MB. Euro models were different. Back in the 80s I 
considered a black market car from a dealer in Holland. They sent a brochure 
listing their inventory and many of the cars - esp the W123s - came with few 
to *no* options. Because of the limited options the costs were much less. 
Ths goes back a few years (1986 IIRC) but they offered new MBs for under 
$1. I believe the least expensive MBs available in the US were around 
$20K. Of course, the Euros didn;t have Sunroofs, AC, ACC, electr windows, 
pwr door locks etc, etc.


That's another reason to be cautious if you run across a MB with few 
options.


If buying a new W123 I'd want a car like you describe - maunual stuff to 
avoid many problems with parts being less expensive if problems did develop. 
Of course all that has an effect on the resale value - which is the party 
(MB) line about why so few choices are available. But they may have a point. 
Sit 2 560SELs next to each other - both identical from the outside - but one 
without AC, ACC, cruise, etc. Would complicate things but it wouldn't be 
insurmountable.


Take care -
LarryT

- Original Message - From: "E M" 
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Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Electric to Manual Window Lifts?



Funny you mention that Larry, as I had manual on the brain too this
morning. Everything is working pretty ok on the old W124, but I thought it
would be pretty cool to have one with manual climate control, windows and
roof. I'd love to have one with a mix of basic Euro trim, and also some of
the stuff on the higher appointed North American spec cars. Oh, and a 
stick

shift would be pretty cool too!! ;-)

Ed
300E

2009/3/21 LarryT 


Hi Gang -
I am so tired of troubleshooting my electric window mechanisms on the 78
240D (123.123.12.050680) and am wondering how much trouble it is to 
change

over to
manual window winders? Not so concerned about aesthetics - so the
existing door panels can be re-used.

It *looks* simple enough but that's often a trap ;-) BTDT.

Any advice? Or anyone with a set of spare manual window winders laying
around?

Thanks Gang!! Hope everyone is enjoying their wekend -

LarryT
Porsche Posters!! And
Oil Analysis at youroil.net.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cooking

[Archer]

How do you get your vitamin B-12 and Folic Acid?
Gerry
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From: Wonko the Sane
Rick:
Have him/her email me and I will be happy to assist.
Best web site for this sort of thing is http://www.vegetariantimes.com/
Instead of using chicken broth, suggest vegetable broth. It is sitting right
there on the grocery shelf beside the chicken broth. And the menu is not
limited to vegetable soup. We whip up a really good pot chili here, except
it uses Boca or Morningstar Farms crumbles instead of beef.
I've eaten vegetarian (technically, pescotarian) three times now, this last
time for more than a year. I am yet to go to bed hungry. And to be honest, I
feel much better when I am not eating meat. Yea, that doesn't work for
everyone, but it works for me.
D.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

On the subject of cooking...
I have a vegetarian friend at work who is looking for soup recipes
(vegetable soup obviously).
He wouldn't mind a chicken broth base, but he would prefer it to be
vegetable only. Does anyone have recipes? Lt. Don?

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT

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