Re: [MBZ] 1987 300d W124 does not shut off

[Luther]

Only because it's VERY fresh on my mind.  I spent about 4 hours diag my 
Dad's TD and it's weak vacuum.  Something's leaking vacuum, and it's not 
a line, rubber bit, a/c, or door locks. 


Luther

Loren Faeth wrote:

Good call Luther.  I shoulda thought of that one too.

At 03:57 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote:
Try hooking your Mityvac directly to the shutoff.  The car should die 
before you finish the second squeeze of the handle.  If you see oil 
coming through the Mityvac line (don't ask me where I've seen this 
before), your shutoff is bad.  It should hold a vacuum and take less 
than 10hg to stop fuel flow.


Luther

SteveB wrote:
1987 300d coninues to run when I turn it off. There is plenty of 
vacuum and
the manual shutoff just barely needs to be touched to shut the car 
off. Is
this vacuum shutoff adjustable, or is there a diaphram I need to 
replace?


Steve



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Re: [MBZ] 126 brake caliper rebuild

[Luther]

on that bad 2.5 engine in the black/palomino 91 124.  I've seen it with 
my own eyes


Luther

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

wtf are you talking about, I dont have any new style pumps.

Luther wrote:
gahh, I'm not ready to spend $92/ea for the fronts when I need to do 
the front pads AND I discovered today that my vacuum pump is dripping 
oil from the bottom of the front cover.  It is the old style crimp 
cover.  UGH!  I might spring for Rusty's calipers if Kaleb makes me a 
good deal on a new style vacuum pump I happen to know that he has


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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[Barry Stark]

My '81 has the fuel cooler

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Jim Cathey
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY

> It's a '79... isn't that one of the least desirable years?  Cats under
> the hood or some other ill-thought-out emissions nonsense, plus the
> accursed ACC II?

No, the cats went back in 77 or so.  I think it was 75 and
76 (for certain) where they were underhood.  76 had hydraulic
lifters and CIS.

> OK, then what was the year when they cooled the fuel lines with
> refrigerant, O 107 expert?  ;)

At least by 82, not sure about before.

-- Jim




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Re: [MBZ] anyone want an E320?

[Loren Faeth]

I am glad you are not my accountant!  You collected a lot of green 
and an SDL that day.  It is cheaper than you sold it to me for!

How soon we forget!

At 09:42 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote:
naw, the only time I buy them back is when its cheaper than what i 
sold it for the 1st time.


E M wrote:

Now's your chance. ;-)

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Re: [MBZ] anyone want an E320?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I didnt break anything, I just never got around to fixed anything when I 
got it!!


Loren Faeth wrote:

Well, I fixed all the stuff you broke!


At 09:42 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote:
naw, the only time I buy them back is when its cheaper than what i 
sold it for the 1st time.


E M wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[archer]

Thought computeric had some zeros?  6-6-2-?  225856
Gerry
-
From: "Loren Faeth" 
Yeah, I was thinking about that, but I left it for you to say.  (and 
Wilton)



If it has a zero it is Arabic!
Fred Moir
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Diesel preferred

At 08:58 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote:

My old car VINs and all the rest of the world (non-US VINS) have
always been in numbers, not in any language, other than the
language of mathematics.

Tell me, is this english or German?  110 110 10 225856

Some of my favorite series of numbers are 110 110 10 and 123 123 10!



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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[Jim Cathey]

If it has a zero it is Arabic!


I believe if you ask my son, it is Indian.

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Re: [MBZ] seat finally repaired

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 23:36:01 -0400 andrew strasfogel
 wrote:

> dark blue - 1985 wagon.  Still available?

Yes. Want to see a picture?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[Loren Faeth]

Yeah, I was thinking about that, but I left it for you to say.  (and Wilton)

At 09:48 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote:

If it has a zero it is Arabic!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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At 08:58 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote:
My old car VINs and all the rest of the world (non-US VINS) have 
always been in numbers, not in any language, other than the 
language of mathematics.


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[MBZ] Armrests: was : seat finally repaired

[Loren Faeth]

anyone got a tan one for a late 124 airbag car?  It has the storage 
in the armrest.


At 10:07 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote:

On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:33:29 -0400 andrew strasfogel
 wrote:

> Is it possible to replace just the vinyl piping on a W123 arm rest?
> It's cracked and pinches my forearm when I rest my arm on it.

What color is your W123 arm rest? I have a dark blue one I offered to the
list a few weeks ago.


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] anyone want an E320?

[Loren Faeth]

Well, I fixed all the stuff you broke!


At 09:42 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote:
naw, the only time I buy them back is when its cheaper than what i 
sold it for the 1st time.


E M wrote:

Now's your chance. ;-)

Ed
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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[andrew strasfogel]

Where is the W123 wiper motor stashed?  My mechanic says they are a pain to
R/R.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

> Well, the red fuse blows when I turn on the wiper switch so that's the
>> problem.  What next?
>>
>
> Unplug the wiper motor and try another fuse.
> If it doesn't blow, time to try another wiper motor!
>
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Re: [MBZ] seat finally repaired

[andrew strasfogel]

dark blue - 1985 wagon.  Still available?

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Craig McCluskey  wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:33:29 -0400 andrew strasfogel
>  wrote:
>
> > Is it possible to replace just the vinyl piping on a W123 arm rest?
> > It's cracked and pinches my forearm when I rest my arm on it.
>
> What color is your W123 arm rest? I have a dark blue one I offered to the
> list a few weeks ago.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] anyone want an E320?

[Loren Faeth]

You can buy it!

At 09:35 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote:

I should have kept that car!!!

Loren Faeth wrote:

Our E320 is officially for sale now.

1994 E320, Green, no rust.  Body in good shape, but clearcoat 
peeling on roof, hood and LF fender top.  Some tears on seat 
bottoms, but "repaired"  Runs good. No problems with Trans, Tires 
fair, on 8 hole OE rims.  (i've had Blizzaks on it, but keeping 
them and those wheels) ~170k miles.  Cat was cut out, and 
replacement pipe is somewhat noisy.  (sounds like a 6 cyl 
ricer)  Sunroof opens and closes correctly.  Overall, it is a good 
solid car, with some cosmetic issues.  It is a good daily driver. $2500


Driving:  It is tight, powerful, and shifts correctly.  It is fun to drive.

Loren Faeth

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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[LWB250]

75 and early 76 had the underhood "pre" cats.  Temperatures were astronomical 
in there, and contributed to premature failure of the numerous bits of flexible 
fuel line used to connect the injectors.

You can almost bet on having a good day's worth of work just replacing all the 
underhood rubber bits on one of these.

Dan


--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Jim Cathey  wrote:

> From: Jim Cathey 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 10:22 PM
> > It's a '79... isn't that one of
> the least desirable years?  Cats under
> > the hood or some other ill-thought-out emissions
> nonsense, plus the
> > accursed ACC II?
> 
> No, the cats went back in 77 or so.  I think it was 75
> and
> 76 (for certain) where they were underhood.  76 had
> hydraulic
> lifters and CIS.
> 
> > OK, then what was the year when they cooled the fuel
> lines with
> > refrigerant, O 107 expert?  ;)
> 
> At least by 82, not sure about before.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] anyone want an E320?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I think the paint was bad, on the hood anyway.

Wonko the Sane wrote:

Blue is Debbie's favorite color ... and I want my 300E back.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

  

How about a blue on blue one?  I was at a big franchise dealer the other
day and spotted said car in the back corner somewhere.  Only thing I know is
they got it on trade and supposedly it runs.  I may be picking that one up
soon.

Wonko the Sane wrote:



Call me when the price drops to $1500.Worth $2500 I am sure but not in the
discretionary account.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Loren Faeth   

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Re: [MBZ] anyone want an E320?

[Wonko the Sane]

Blue is Debbie's favorite color ... and I want my 300E back.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> How about a blue on blue one?  I was at a big franchise dealer the other
> day and spotted said car in the back corner somewhere.  Only thing I know is
> they got it on trade and supposedly it runs.  I may be picking that one up
> soon.
>
> Wonko the Sane wrote:
>
>> Call me when the price drops to $1500.Worth $2500 I am sure but not in the
>> discretionary account.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Loren Faeth > >wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>
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> 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
> 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81
> 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] seat finally repaired

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:33:29 -0400 andrew strasfogel
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> Is it possible to replace just the vinyl piping on a W123 arm rest? 
> It's cracked and pinches my forearm when I rest my arm on it.

What color is your W123 arm rest? I have a dark blue one I offered to the
list a few weeks ago.


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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[WILTON]

It's neither English nor German, it's Arabic.  ;<

Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY


My old car VINs and all the rest of the world (non-US VINS) have always 
been in numbers, not in any language, other than the language of 
mathematics.


Tell me, is this english or German?  110 110 10 225856

Some of my favorite series of numbers are 110 110 10 and 123 123 10!

At 07:41 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote:

I never thought about it but my '77's VIN seems to be in English. [cough]

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Wonko the Sane wrote:
>
>> Yea, but THIS one has a German VIN.
>>
>
> US standardized 17 digit VINs began when, 1981?
> Surely not by 1979.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[WILTON]

Mine are in Arabic and ah, ah, ah - suddenly, I've forgotten the origin of 
our alphabet, A, B,C, etc.  ;<)))


Wilton

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I never thought about it but my '77's VIN seems to be in English. [cough]

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:


Wonko the Sane wrote:


Yea, but THIS one has a German VIN.



US standardized 17 digit VINs began when, 1981?
Surely not by 1979.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[Frederick W Moir]

If it has a zero it is Arabic!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred

At 08:58 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote:
My old car VINs and all the rest of the world (non-US VINS) have 
always been in numbers, not in any language, other than the language 
of mathematics.


Tell me, is this english or German?  110 110 10 225856

Some of my favorite series of numbers are 110 110 10 and 123 123 10!



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Re: [MBZ] anyone want an E320?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

naw, the only time I buy them back is when its cheaper than what i sold 
it for the 1st time.


E M wrote:

Now's your chance. ;-)

Ed
300E

  


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Re: [MBZ] anyone want an E320?

[E M]

Now's your chance. ;-)

Ed
300E

2009/6/5 Kaleb C. Striplin 

> I should have kept that car!!!
>
> Loren Faeth wrote:
>
>> Our E320 is officially for sale now.
>>
>> 1994 E320, Green, no rust.  Body in good shape, but clearcoat peeling on
>> roof, hood and LF fender top.  Some tears on seat bottoms, but "repaired"
>>  Runs good. No problems with Trans, Tires fair, on 8 hole OE rims.  (i've
>> had Blizzaks on it, but keeping them and those wheels) ~170k miles.  Cat was
>> cut out, and replacement pipe is somewhat noisy.  (sounds like a 6 cyl
>> ricer)  Sunroof opens and closes correctly.  Overall, it is a good solid
>> car, with some cosmetic issues.  It is a good daily driver. $2500
>>
>> Driving:  It is tight, powerful, and shifts correctly.  It is fun to
>> drive.
>>
>> Loren Faeth
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Re: [MBZ] anyone want an E320?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

How about a blue on blue one?  I was at a big franchise dealer the other 
day and spotted said car in the back corner somewhere.  Only thing I 
know is they got it on trade and supposedly it runs.  I may be picking 
that one up soon.


Wonko the Sane wrote:

Call me when the price drops to $1500.Worth $2500 I am sure but not in the
discretionary account.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Loren Faeth wrote:

  


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Re: [MBZ] 126 brake caliper rebuild

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

wtf are you talking about, I dont have any new style pumps.

Luther wrote:
gahh, I'm not ready to spend $92/ea for the fronts when I need to do 
the front pads AND I discovered today that my vacuum pump is dripping 
oil from the bottom of the front cover.  It is the old style crimp 
cover.  UGH!  I might spring for Rusty's calipers if Kaleb makes me a 
good deal on a new style vacuum pump I happen to know that he has


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Re: [MBZ] anyone want an E320?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I should have kept that car!!!

Loren Faeth wrote:

Our E320 is officially for sale now.

1994 E320, Green, no rust.  Body in good shape, but clearcoat peeling 
on roof, hood and LF fender top.  Some tears on seat bottoms, but 
"repaired"  Runs good. No problems with Trans, Tires fair, on 8 hole 
OE rims.  (i've had Blizzaks on it, but keeping them and those wheels) 
~170k miles.  Cat was cut out, and replacement pipe is somewhat 
noisy.  (sounds like a 6 cyl ricer)  Sunroof opens and closes 
correctly.  Overall, it is a good solid car, with some cosmetic 
issues.  It is a good daily driver. $2500


Driving:  It is tight, powerful, and shifts correctly.  It is fun to 
drive.


Loren Faeth

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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300d W124 does not shut off

[Jim Cathey]

Make sure the stop lever goes down when you apply vacuum to the new 
solenoid after installation.  It's obvious where it hooks into the 
mechanism, but you MUST verify that it's correct.


It's easy to check.  Once it's hooked in place and before
you bolt it down try a few pumps of the mityvac.  It should
pull down to the IP if it's hooked on right.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[Jim Cathey]

Well, the red fuse blows when I turn on the wiper switch so that's the
problem.  What next?


Unplug the wiper motor and try another fuse.
If it doesn't blow, time to try another wiper motor!

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Axxess (was Re: A/C thanks)

[Jim Cathey]

Is this that 1990? Nissan Minivan with double sliding doors?


Yeah.  It was a heightened wagon.  He gets 30mpg on
trips, which no mommyvan you can get now will do.


There aren't too many of those around anymore.


Never were.  At least half the production went to Canada,
in the US it was only available a few years.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[Jim Cathey]

It's a '79... isn't that one of the least desirable years?  Cats under
the hood or some other ill-thought-out emissions nonsense, plus the
accursed ACC II?


No, the cats went back in 77 or so.  I think it was 75 and
76 (for certain) where they were underhood.  76 had hydraulic
lifters and CIS.


OK, then what was the year when they cooled the fuel lines with
refrigerant, O 107 expert?  ;)


At least by 82, not sure about before.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 126 brake caliper rebuild

[Jim Cathey]

The right front brake has a slight drag so I'm going to rebuild the 
front calipers.  Who has any tips and BTDTs for rebuilding the 
calipers?  I can


I found that using a clean grease gun and water I can pump out
the pucks without any risk of chipping or damage.  Then you
blow dry the things during the refurb, then reassemble.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 126 CD-ROM FSM needed

[Tyler]

These should still work They're showing seeders:
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4448561/Mercedes_Benz_w126_Service_Manual 
.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4462467/Mercedes_Benz_w126_Service_Manual._2nd_CD

On Jun 5, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

So, anybody want to post a link to a site where I can download the two
CDs for the W126?  The torrent URLS on piratebay.org that Tyler posted
a month or so ago don't work anymore.


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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[Wonko the Sane]

I grew up reading English and studied German at the University.

Looks the same to me either way.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Loren Faeth wrote:

> My old car VINs and all the rest of the world (non-US VINS) have always
> been in numbers, not in any language, other than the language of
> mathematics.
>
> Tell me, is this english or German?  110 110 10 225856
>
> Some of my favorite series of numbers are 110 110 10 and 123 123 10!
>
>
> At 07:41 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote:
>
>> I never thought about it but my '77's VIN seems to be in English. [cough]
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
>>
>> > Wonko the Sane wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yea, but THIS one has a German VIN.
>> >>
>> >
>> > US standardized 17 digit VINs began when, 1981?
>> > Surely not by 1979.
>> >
>> > Mitch.
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300d W124 does not shut off

[Peter Frederick]

Not if the diaphragm is bad  You'd just get used engine oil in  
your mouth.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300d W124 does not shut off

[Rich Thomas]

You can run a vac hose inside under the dash, and suck on it to stop the 
car.  Works quite well, and you don't even have to suck that hard.


--R

R A Bennell wrote:

My 300D is afflicted that way too. I'm gonna wear out the hood latch if I don't 
fix it soon!

Randy

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300d W124 does not shut off


That is fatal!  Kaleb will give you $500 for the car!  Better unload it quick!

Seriously,

Did you check the vacuum at the hose end at the shutoff?

If so, buy an new shutoff from Rusty. 800 741 5252  If not, there is 
a leak somewhere.


At 11:18 AM 6/5/2009, you wrote:
  

1987 300d coninues to run when I turn it off. There is plenty of vacuum and
the manual shutoff just barely needs to be touched to shut the car off. Is
this vacuum shutoff adjustable, or is there a diaphram I need to replace?

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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[Loren Faeth]

My old car VINs and all the rest of the world (non-US VINS) have 
always been in numbers, not in any language, other than the language 
of mathematics.


Tell me, is this english or German?  110 110 10 225856

Some of my favorite series of numbers are 110 110 10 and 123 123 10!

At 07:41 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote:

I never thought about it but my '77's VIN seems to be in English. [cough]

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Wonko the Sane wrote:
>
>> Yea, but THIS one has a German VIN.
>>
>
> US standardized 17 digit VINs began when, 1981?
> Surely not by 1979.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300d W124 does not shut off

[Peter Frederick]

Replace the shutoff solenoid.  Make sure you get the metal one, not  
the plastic one that comes up on a parts search, it won't fit.


You will need to remove the windshield washer reservoir to get to the  
ALDA to remove it (hold on the flats with one wrench, turn the  
captive nut with the other).  Wriggle it around til you find the spot  
where it will tilt over and come out from under the manifold.


Remove the two screws holding the solenoid on and unhook.  You may  
need to remove the rack position sensor plug, it has a lock ring that  
is TIGHT but will come loose eventually, I don't remember.


Make sure the stop lever goes down when you apply vacuum to the new  
solenoid after installation.  It's obvious where it hooks into the  
mechanism, but you MUST verifty that it's correct.


Re-install the other bits, then start the car ONLY after you have a  
14mm wrench in your hand -- if ti runs away you only have a very  
short time to get a couple injection lines loose before some thing  
breaks   I've never had on go wild, but it DOES happen.


One of my projects for this weekend -- shutoff, new fan clutch, R&R  
radiator to remove the crap stuffed into the space between condenser  
and rad, new engine mounts if I get that far.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[Wonko the Sane]

I never thought about it but my '77's VIN seems to be in English. [cough]

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Wonko the Sane wrote:
>
>> Yea, but THIS one has a German VIN.
>>
>
> US standardized 17 digit VINs began when, 1981?
> Surely not by 1979.
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> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] 126 brake caliper rebuild

[Peter Frederick]

Very easy.  You can use brake fluid to push out the pistons (clamp  
one in with a c-clamp and pump the pedal, refilling with fresh fluid  
if require), or do what I do with calipers that are not really stuck  
--peel the boot off and use a pair of screwdrivers to pry out the  
piston using the retainer slot for the boot.


Once they are out (I do one side at a time after cleaning the caliper  
very well), use a plastic tool or VERY carefully a twisted pick to  
remove the seal.  Clean piston and bore with brake parts cleaner (no  
abrasives, please), coat the new seal with brake fluid, install, coat  
the piston with brake fluid and press in (a piece of wood that fits  
through the caliper is nice for this, the piston is fairly large and  
it takes some pressure to get it over the seal).


Make sure you have the recess in the piston aligned correctly, it's  
very difficult to rotate them without the tool.  Install the new dust  
boot (this can be tricky, as it snaps down around the outside edge  
and some parts are hard to reach), then carefully align the new heat  
shield so that the partial rim of the piston will stick through the  
slot and press it in.


Repeat for the other side, install, put in new pads, flush out all  
old brake fluid, and you are done.


Only real "gotcha" is if the piston is corroded, in which case a  
rebuilt caliper is in order.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] anyone want an E320?

[Loren Faeth]

Dunno.  I will check it tomorrow.  #1 Daughter never said it didn't 
work.  She drives the SL with the top down in the warmer months, so 
AC was never much of an issue with her.  It is a good set of wheels, 
but some of the fluff is not so fluffy anymore.


At 07:16 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote:

How is the AC?

Allan

Wonko the Sane  writes:

> Call me when the price drops to $1500.Worth $2500 I am sure but not in the
> discretionary account.
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Loren Faeth 
wrote:

>
>> Our E320 is officially for sale now.
>>
>> 1994 E320, Green, no rust.  Body in good shape, but clearcoat peeling on
>> roof, hood and LF fender top.  Some tears on seat bottoms, but "repaired"
>>  Runs good. No problems with Trans, Tires fair, on 8 hole OE rims.  (i've
>> had Blizzaks on it, but keeping them and those wheels) ~170k 
miles.  Cat was

>> cut out, and replacement pipe is somewhat noisy.  (sounds like a 6 cyl
>> ricer)  Sunroof opens and closes correctly.  Overall, it is a good solid
>> car, with some cosmetic issues.  It is a good daily driver. $2500
>>
>> Driving:  It is tight, powerful, and shifts correctly.  It is 
fun to drive.

>>
>> Loren Faeth
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300d W124 does not shut off

[Loren Faeth]

Good call Luther.  I shoulda thought of that one too.

At 03:57 PM 6/5/2009, you wrote:
Try hooking your Mityvac directly to the shutoff.  The car should 
die before you finish the second squeeze of the handle.  If you see 
oil coming through the Mityvac line (don't ask me where I've seen 
this before), your shutoff is bad.  It should hold a vacuum and take 
less than 10hg to stop fuel flow.


Luther

SteveB wrote:

1987 300d coninues to run when I turn it off. There is plenty of vacuum and
the manual shutoff just barely needs to be touched to shut the car off. Is
this vacuum shutoff adjustable, or is there a diaphram I need to replace?

Steve

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Re: [MBZ] methanol

[Peter Frederick]

Actually, MTBE is acutely toxic, probably carcinogenic, and causes  
liver damage (among other nasty things).  It also travels in ground  
water, unlike gasoline, and is a terrible additive.


It was, however, cheaper than ethanol

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Re: [MBZ] 126 CD-ROM FSM needed

[Mitch Haley]

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

Just got off with the phone with 1-800-FOR-MERC.  They told me the
CD-ROM service manuals for all chassis older than the W202 and W140
are NLA.  Huh?  I thought just a year ago they were making a big deal
about supporting owners of older cars by dropping the price to $30 per
CD.  


I thought they were getting rid of all the old CDs by dropping the price to $30.
Looks like they are gone now, just like the paper books.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[OK Don]

Don't have clue --
http://northernresource.com/mercedes/107-changes.htm


On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:40 PM, OK Don wrote:
> > '76 was the year with the cats under the hood. '79 and '80 had
> progressively
> > more emissions controls and lower HP.
>
> OK, then what was the year when they cooled the fuel lines with
> refrigerant, O 107 expert?  ;)
>
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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[Mitch Haley]

Wonko the Sane wrote:

Yea, but THIS one has a German VIN.


US standardized 17 digit VINs began when, 1981?
Surely not by 1979.

Mitch.

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[MBZ] 126 CD-ROM FSM needed

[Alex Chamberlain]

Just got off with the phone with 1-800-FOR-MERC.  They told me the
CD-ROM service manuals for all chassis older than the W202 and W140
are NLA.  Huh?  I thought just a year ago they were making a big deal
about supporting owners of older cars by dropping the price to $30 per
CD.  Wonder if this was a Daimler corporate decision post-separation
from Chrysler?

So, anybody want to post a link to a site where I can download the two
CDs for the W126?  The torrent URLS on piratebay.org that Tyler posted
a month or so ago don't work anymore.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] anyone want an E320?

[Allan Streib]

How is the AC?

Allan

Wonko the Sane  writes:

> Call me when the price drops to $1500.Worth $2500 I am sure but not in the
> discretionary account.
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Loren Faeth wrote:
>
>> Our E320 is officially for sale now.
>>
>> 1994 E320, Green, no rust.  Body in good shape, but clearcoat peeling on
>> roof, hood and LF fender top.  Some tears on seat bottoms, but "repaired"
>>  Runs good. No problems with Trans, Tires fair, on 8 hole OE rims.  (i've
>> had Blizzaks on it, but keeping them and those wheels) ~170k miles.  Cat was
>> cut out, and replacement pipe is somewhat noisy.  (sounds like a 6 cyl
>> ricer)  Sunroof opens and closes correctly.  Overall, it is a good solid
>> car, with some cosmetic issues.  It is a good daily driver. $2500
>>
>> Driving:  It is tight, powerful, and shifts correctly.  It is fun to drive.
>>
>> Loren Faeth
>>
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Re: [MBZ] fuzzes

[RELNGSON]

> ...To avoid catastrophe, a fuse can be put in series so if the
> current flow gets to great the fuse opens and shuts off the
> flow.  Annoying, but better than catastrophe
> 
What do you mean? Fuses are always in series. Or do you mean adding a fuse, 
such as for the aux water pump?

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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[Wonko the Sane]

Yea, but THIS one has a German VIN.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

> How the mighty have fallen...
>> Seriously, did anyone ever think that a decent 107 SL would ever be
>> selling
>> for only $3k?
>>
>
> I can only hope that it's got serious ACC, etc., problems.
> Doesn't bode well for my selling Ethelred for even what
> I've got into it in parts.  (Poor Ethelred has a 20' paint
> job.)  One day I'll learn...
>
> -- Jim
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>
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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:40 PM, OK Don wrote:
> '76 was the year with the cats under the hood. '79 and '80 had progressively
> more emissions controls and lower HP.

OK, then what was the year when they cooled the fuel lines with
refrigerant, O 107 expert?  ;)

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[OK Don]

'76 was the year with the cats under the hood. '79 and '80 had progressively
more emissions controls and lower HP.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:38 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

> Wasn't 1980 the year to avoid?
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Alex Chamberlain
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:31 AM, andrew strasfogel
> > wrote:
> > > How the mighty have fallen...
> > >
> > > Seriously, did anyone ever think that a decent 107 SL would ever be
> > selling
> > > for only $3k?
> > >
> >
> > It's a '79... isn't that one of the least desirable years?  Cats under
> > the hood or some other ill-thought-out emissions nonsense, plus the
> > accursed ACC II?
> >
> > Alex
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] anyone want an E320?

[Wonko the Sane]

Call me when the price drops to $1500.Worth $2500 I am sure but not in the
discretionary account.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Loren Faeth wrote:

> Our E320 is officially for sale now.
>
> 1994 E320, Green, no rust.  Body in good shape, but clearcoat peeling on
> roof, hood and LF fender top.  Some tears on seat bottoms, but "repaired"
>  Runs good. No problems with Trans, Tires fair, on 8 hole OE rims.  (i've
> had Blizzaks on it, but keeping them and those wheels) ~170k miles.  Cat was
> cut out, and replacement pipe is somewhat noisy.  (sounds like a 6 cyl
> ricer)  Sunroof opens and closes correctly.  Overall, it is a good solid
> car, with some cosmetic issues.  It is a good daily driver. $2500
>
> Driving:  It is tight, powerful, and shifts correctly.  It is fun to drive.
>
> Loren Faeth
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Re: [MBZ] anyone want an E320?

[OK Don]

Have any pictures? Sounds interesting.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Loren Faeth wrote:

> Our E320 is officially for sale now.
>
> 1994 E320, Green, no rust.  Body in good shape, but clearcoat peeling on
> roof, hood and LF fender top.  Some tears on seat bottoms, but "repaired"
>  Runs good. No problems with Trans, Tires fair, on 8 hole OE rims.  (i've
> had Blizzaks on it, but keeping them and those wheels) ~170k miles.  Cat was
> cut out, and replacement pipe is somewhat noisy.  (sounds like a 6 cyl
> ricer)  Sunroof opens and closes correctly.  Overall, it is a good solid
> car, with some cosmetic issues.  It is a good daily driver. $2500
>
> Driving:  It is tight, powerful, and shifts correctly.  It is fun to drive.
>
> Loren Faeth
>
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>
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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[andrew strasfogel]

Well, the red fuse blows when I turn on the wiper switch so that's the
problem.  What next?

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Fmiser  wrote:

> > > > ...Yes, I did try all wiper functions, without success. It
> > > > is possible that the replacement fuse shorted out...
>
> > > RLE
> > >
> > > Went open, actually.
>
> > andrew strasfogel wrote:
> >
> > Correction - I definitely do NOT understand!
>
> Technical terms...
>
> "open" means the electricity encounters a gap so it stops
> flowing. Like a burned out fuse.
>
> "short" means a "shortcut" past the proper destination,
> therefore the intended work doesn't get done. And it usually
> means very high current flow so wires melting or fires
> starting are a real possibility.
>
> To avoid catastrophe, a fuse can be put in series so if the
> current flow gets to great the fuse opens and shuts off the
> flow.  Annoying, but better than catastrophe.
>
> --  Philip
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Re: [MBZ] 911 erl

[E M]

Thanks Mathieu, I'll look into that one too.  Looks like I'm going to do
some serious reading up soon.  I was using regular Valvoline 20/50 years ago
in my 911, but I could never seem to get it to burn off condensation, and it
would form "honey" in the oil.  I switched to Q State because of that, and
the problem went away.  Valvoline is what my dealer was using at the time.
I'll look into the VR1 racing oils.

Thanks again.

Ed
300E

2009/6/5 Mathieu J. Cama 

> Ed,
>
> Check out Valvoline's VR1 racing oils. These still have ZDDP. It comes in
> 20W50, 50, and 60 weight. Possibly more, but those are what I generally see.
> +/- $5/qt.
>
>  I have been using the VR1 oil for a number of years in a variety of
> motors, including the S90 in my racer. It is not a synthetic and should work
> well in your SC. That oil had the lowest average temperatures when I used to
> hot rod a 16v VW with a digital oil temp gauge. It seems one of the few oils
> out there that has remained consistent over the 10 years or so that I've
> been using it regularly.
>
> Good to read about Shell Helix. Sounds like an oil worth looking into as
> well.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mathieu Cama
>
> Old World Automotive
> Lawrenceville, GA
> www.oldworldauto.com
> 404-550-8000
> 9:30 AM - 5:30 PM Mon-Fri
>
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2009, at 2:47 PM, E M wrote:
>
>  Thanks Roger.  I have a large stock of Quaker State 20/50 which I've used
>> for years.  The last of it is in the car now, so I have to decide soon
>> what
>> to do.  I've never used a synthetic in any car yet, but I'm thinking about
>> switching them all over.  I remember reading that the M1 still has good
>> levels of zinc, but are still a bit below what is recommended for the old
>> air cooled 911s.  I'll look into the Shell Helix further.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Ed
>> 300E
>> 911SC
>>
>> 2009/6/4 
>>
>>  ..I'm not sure what to run in my old 911 now that the zink levels have
>>>> been reduced, but I'm thinking to maybe go with Rotella in that too.
>>>>  Any
>>>> thoughts ?..
>>>>
>>>>  One of the leading Porsche independent shops in my area (he's a member
>>> of
>>> the PCA national tech committee for 911) has decided to stop using M1 in
>>> the
>>> shop because of the zinc question and is now using Shell Helix.
>>>
>>> I switched my 944 from M1 0W40 back to M1 15/50 which is more available
>>> and
>>> still is OK zinc-wise. Changed annually or thereabouts. My dealer is
>>> using
>>> M1 5W40 (I don't know which flavor) with the fleece filter for their
>>> extended oil change cars.
>>>
>>> RLE
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] 126 brake caliper rebuild

[Greg Fiorentino]

I did this recently.  I used a compressor to blow the pistons out.  Not too
much pressure, and put several layers of rag to soften the impact between
the pistons.

Long breaker bar to undo the caliper bolts.  I chased the threads with a die
to clean out the factory locking compound, then used blue loctite to
reassemble.  The manual calls for new caliper bolts, which Rusty has for not
too much.

My back hurts much less these days from laying under the car in
uncomfortable positions while wrenching stubborn bolts.  I am lucky enough
to have 2 21 year-old sons who don't mind assisting dad with wrenching :-).
Of course they get dad to work on their cars too!

Greg Fiorentino
'85 300SD
'80 240D 4 spd. manual
'79 300DT (with new crate engine)
'95 and '97 Crown Vics
'97 F-250HD Crew Cab 7.3 Powerstroke

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On Behalf Of Luther
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 7:52 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] 126 brake caliper rebuild

The right front brake has a slight drag so I'm going to rebuild the 
front calipers.  Who has any tips and BTDTs for rebuilding the 
calipers?  I can remember to keep it very clean (don't scratch the 
cylinder walls or pistons) and use gentle pressure (air or fluid?) on 
the pistons to remove them.  Is this a fairly easy process?  TIA all,

Luther

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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[Fmiser]

> > > ...Yes, I did try all wiper functions, without success. It
> > > is possible that the replacement fuse shorted out...

> > RLE
> >
> > Went open, actually.

> andrew strasfogel wrote:
>
> Correction - I definitely do NOT understand!

Technical terms...

"open" means the electricity encounters a gap so it stops
flowing. Like a burned out fuse.

"short" means a "shortcut" past the proper destination,
therefore the intended work doesn't get done. And it usually
means very high current flow so wires melting or fires
starting are a real possibility.  

To avoid catastrophe, a fuse can be put in series so if the
current flow gets to great the fuse opens and shuts off the
flow.  Annoying, but better than catastrophe.

--  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[WILTON]

Burned/melted apart into at least two separated pieces - opened circuit. 
;<))


Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuses



Not sure if I understand you.

Correction - I definitely do NOT understand!

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:32 PM,  wrote:


> ...Yes, I did try all wiper functions, without success. It is possible
> that the replacement fuse shorted out...
>
Went open, actually.

RLE
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300d W124 does not shut off

[Luther]

Try hooking your Mityvac directly to the shutoff.  The car should die 
before you finish the second squeeze of the handle.  If you see oil 
coming through the Mityvac line (don't ask me where I've seen this 
before), your shutoff is bad.  It should hold a vacuum and take less 
than 10hg to stop fuel flow.


Luther

SteveB wrote:

1987 300d coninues to run when I turn it off. There is plenty of vacuum and
the manual shutoff just barely needs to be touched to shut the car off. Is
this vacuum shutoff adjustable, or is there a diaphram I need to replace?

Steve

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Re: [MBZ] 126 brake caliper rebuild

[Luther]

gahh, I'm not ready to spend $92/ea for the fronts when I need to do the 
front pads AND I discovered today that my vacuum pump is dripping oil 
from the bottom of the front cover.  It is the old style crimp cover.  
UGH!  I might spring for Rusty's calipers if Kaleb makes me a good deal 
on a new style vacuum pump I happen to know that he has


Luther

pm7...@comcast.net wrote:
Big tip here, Call Rusty and get rebuilt, if I remember right they come loaded. 



  


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Re: [MBZ] 911 erl

[Mathieu J . Cama]

Ed,

Check out Valvoline's VR1 racing oils. These still have ZDDP. It comes  
in 20W50, 50, and 60 weight. Possibly more, but those are what I  
generally see. +/- $5/qt.


 I have been using the VR1 oil for a number of years in a variety of  
motors, including the S90 in my racer. It is not a synthetic and should  
work well in your SC. That oil had the lowest average temperatures when  
I used to hot rod a 16v VW with a digital oil temp gauge. It seems one  
of the few oils out there that has remained consistent over the 10  
years or so that I've been using it regularly.


Good to read about Shell Helix. Sounds like an oil worth looking into  
as well.


Regards,

Mathieu Cama

Old World Automotive
Lawrenceville, GA
www.oldworldauto.com
404-550-8000
9:30 AM - 5:30 PM Mon-Fri


On Jun 5, 2009, at 2:47 PM, E M wrote:

Thanks Roger.  I have a large stock of Quaker State 20/50 which I've  
used
for years.  The last of it is in the car now, so I have to decide soon  
what
to do.  I've never used a synthetic in any car yet, but I'm thinking  
about

switching them all over.  I remember reading that the M1 still has good
levels of zinc, but are still a bit below what is recommended for the  
old

air cooled 911s.  I'll look into the Shell Helix further.

Thanks again,

Ed
300E
911SC

2009/6/4 

..I'm not sure what to run in my old 911 now that the zink levels  
have
been reduced, but I'm thinking to maybe go with Rotella in that too.  
 Any

thoughts ?..

One of the leading Porsche independent shops in my area (he's a  
member of
the PCA national tech committee for 911) has decided to stop using M1  
in

the
shop because of the zinc question and is now using Shell Helix.

I switched my 944 from M1 0W40 back to M1 15/50 which is more  
available and
still is OK zinc-wise. Changed annually or thereabouts. My dealer is  
using

M1 5W40 (I don't know which flavor) with the fleece filter for their
extended oil change cars.

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Re: [MBZ] seat finally repaired

[Bill R]

I'm sure there is some way a list member can relate that sorts this out.  I
took mine to an upholstery shop to check on getting the worn parts repaired
and they said I needed a new spring base.  New are expensive, Kaleb sent me
one for reasonable $.  It makes a lot of difference on how the seat feels.
BillR

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] seat finally repaired

So three of the four front seats in my two wagons are slightly
saggy/bouncy.  They all have spring but no support.  How do I know whether a
new interior cushion vs. the bottom spring is needed?

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:36 PM, WILTON  wrote:

> Somebody put it together; surely somebody else can take it apart and
> replace whatever necessary.  'May get tedious removing threads, etc.,
> holding it together, but I'd bet it can be done, 'less it's held together
> with some exotic glue, "welding," etc.
> 'Course, on just the armrest, there's not terribly much of it.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <
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> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 9:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] seat finally repaired
>
>
>   Is it possible to replace just the vinyl piping on a W123 arm rest?
>>  It's
>> cracked and pinches my forearm when I rest my arm on it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Bill R  wrote:
>>
>> I finally took the spring base I got from Kaleb last year and hit the
>>> upholstery shop yesterday.  The new pieces [driver's seat and seat back
>>> where you slide in and out, top and side of arm rest] are just a bit
>>> darker
>>> than the rest, but I suppose 28 years of occasional sun will fade things
>>> a
>>> bit.  They did a fine job and the seat is a whole lot better, though I
>>> think
>>> the bill was a bit skewed.  They put it at $200 parts and $20 labor for
>>> replacing the spring base with mine and putting in the new pieces.  They
>>> had
>>> it for 6 hours, but it is hard to imagine they could do the seat
removal,
>>> base replacement, disassembly and sewing in the new pieces and reinstall
>>> for
>>> $20, or that the replacement pieces were $200.  Doesn't matter, I guess.
>>> I'm quite pleased with the result.
>>>
>>> BillR
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[MBZ] Axxess (was Re: A/C thanks)

[kevin kraly]

Is this that 1990? Nissan Minivan with double sliding doors?  There aren't 
too many of those around anymore.


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[R A Bennell]

A short implies that something closed whereas, when a fuse blows, it opens up 
the circuit.

Randy

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Not sure if I understand you.

Correction - I definitely do NOT understand!

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:32 PM,  wrote:

> > ...Yes, I did try all wiper functions, without success. It is possible
> > that the replacement fuse shorted out...
> >
> Went open, actually.
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> RLE
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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300d W124 does not shut off

[R A Bennell]

My 300D is afflicted that way too. I'm gonna wear out the hood latch if I don't 
fix it soon!

Randy

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That is fatal!  Kaleb will give you $500 for the car!  Better unload it quick!

Seriously,

Did you check the vacuum at the hose end at the shutoff?

If so, buy an new shutoff from Rusty. 800 741 5252  If not, there is 
a leak somewhere.

At 11:18 AM 6/5/2009, you wrote:
>1987 300d coninues to run when I turn it off. There is plenty of vacuum and
>the manual shutoff just barely needs to be touched to shut the car off. Is
>this vacuum shutoff adjustable, or is there a diaphram I need to replace?
>
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Re: [MBZ] 911 erl

[E M]

Thanks Roger.  I have a large stock of Quaker State 20/50 which I've used
for years.  The last of it is in the car now, so I have to decide soon what
to do.  I've never used a synthetic in any car yet, but I'm thinking about
switching them all over.  I remember reading that the M1 still has good
levels of zinc, but are still a bit below what is recommended for the old
air cooled 911s.  I'll look into the Shell Helix further.

Thanks again,

Ed
300E
911SC

2009/6/4 

> > ..I'm not sure what to run in my old 911 now that the zink levels have
> > been reduced, but I'm thinking to maybe go with Rotella in that too.  Any
> > thoughts ?..
> >
> One of the leading Porsche independent shops in my area (he's a member of
> the PCA national tech committee for 911) has decided to stop using M1 in
> the
> shop because of the zinc question and is now using Shell Helix.
>
> I switched my 944 from M1 0W40 back to M1 15/50 which is more available and
> still is OK zinc-wise. Changed annually or thereabouts. My dealer is using
> M1 5W40 (I don't know which flavor) with the fleece filter for their
> extended oil change cars.
>
> RLE
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fuses

[andrew strasfogel]

Not sure if I understand you.

Correction - I definitely do NOT understand!

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:32 PM,  wrote:

> > ...Yes, I did try all wiper functions, without success. It is possible
> > that the replacement fuse shorted out...
> >
> Went open, actually.
>
> RLE
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Re: [MBZ] seat finally repaired

[andrew strasfogel]

So three of the four front seats in my two wagons are slightly
saggy/bouncy.  They all have spring but no support.  How do I know whether a
new interior cushion vs. the bottom spring is needed?

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:36 PM, WILTON  wrote:

> Somebody put it together; surely somebody else can take it apart and
> replace whatever necessary.  'May get tedious removing threads, etc.,
> holding it together, but I'd bet it can be done, 'less it's held together
> with some exotic glue, "welding," etc.
> 'Course, on just the armrest, there's not terribly much of it.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <
> astrasfo...@gmail.com>
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> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 9:33 AM
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>
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>   Is it possible to replace just the vinyl piping on a W123 arm rest?
>>  It's
>> cracked and pinches my forearm when I rest my arm on it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Bill R  wrote:
>>
>> I finally took the spring base I got from Kaleb last year and hit the
>>> upholstery shop yesterday.  The new pieces [driver's seat and seat back
>>> where you slide in and out, top and side of arm rest] are just a bit
>>> darker
>>> than the rest, but I suppose 28 years of occasional sun will fade things
>>> a
>>> bit.  They did a fine job and the seat is a whole lot better, though I
>>> think
>>> the bill was a bit skewed.  They put it at $200 parts and $20 labor for
>>> replacing the spring base with mine and putting in the new pieces.  They
>>> had
>>> it for 6 hours, but it is hard to imagine they could do the seat removal,
>>> base replacement, disassembly and sewing in the new pieces and reinstall
>>> for
>>> $20, or that the replacement pieces were $200.  Doesn't matter, I guess.
>>> I'm quite pleased with the result.
>>>
>>> BillR
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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[andrew strasfogel]

Wasn't 1980 the year to avoid?

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Alex Chamberlain
wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:31 AM, andrew strasfogel
> wrote:
> > How the mighty have fallen...
> >
> > Seriously, did anyone ever think that a decent 107 SL would ever be
> selling
> > for only $3k?
> >
>
> It's a '79... isn't that one of the least desirable years?  Cats under
> the hood or some other ill-thought-out emissions nonsense, plus the
> accursed ACC II?
>
> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] seat finally repaired

[WILTON]

Somebody put it together; surely somebody else can take it apart and replace 
whatever necessary.  'May get tedious removing threads, etc., holding it 
together, but I'd bet it can be done, 'less it's held together with some 
exotic glue, "welding," etc.

'Course, on just the armrest, there's not terribly much of it.

Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 9:33 AM
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Is it possible to replace just the vinyl piping on a W123 arm rest?  It's
cracked and pinches my forearm when I rest my arm on it.




On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Bill R  wrote:


I finally took the spring base I got from Kaleb last year and hit the
upholstery shop yesterday.  The new pieces [driver's seat and seat back
where you slide in and out, top and side of arm rest] are just a bit 
darker
than the rest, but I suppose 28 years of occasional sun will fade things 
a

bit.  They did a fine job and the seat is a whole lot better, though I
think
the bill was a bit skewed.  They put it at $200 parts and $20 labor for
replacing the spring base with mine and putting in the new pieces.  They
had
it for 6 hours, but it is hard to imagine they could do the seat removal,
base replacement, disassembly and sewing in the new pieces and reinstall
for
$20, or that the replacement pieces were $200.  Doesn't matter, I guess.
I'm quite pleased with the result.

BillR

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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300d W124 does not shut off

[Loren Faeth]

That is fatal!  Kaleb will give you $500 for the car!  Better unload it quick!

Seriously,

Did you check the vacuum at the hose end at the shutoff?

If so, buy an new shutoff from Rusty. 800 741 5252  If not, there is 
a leak somewhere.


At 11:18 AM 6/5/2009, you wrote:

1987 300d coninues to run when I turn it off. There is plenty of vacuum and
the manual shutoff just barely needs to be touched to shut the car off. Is
this vacuum shutoff adjustable, or is there a diaphram I need to replace?

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Re: [MBZ] Now our 190 has been in an accident

[R A Bennell]

If the car was a GM or Chrysler, may not be worth suing the manufacturor.

Randy

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Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now our 190 has been in an accident


Quick, call 60 Minutes to investigate this "unintended acceleration" 
incident, call for Congressional hearings, sue the maker of the car the 
girl was driving for obviously defective product design and realization, 
and retire fat.

--R

Zoltan Finks wrote:
> Just got a phone call from the wife. She got rearended by some girl who "hit
> the gas instead of the brake".
>
> I am glad I'm not there.
>
> Sheer stupidity.
>
> Wife's neck feels tweaked.
>
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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:31 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
> How the mighty have fallen...
>
> Seriously, did anyone ever think that a decent 107 SL would ever be selling
> for only $3k?
>

It's a '79... isn't that one of the least desirable years?  Cats under
the hood or some other ill-thought-out emissions nonsense, plus the
accursed ACC II?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 1987 300d W124 does not shut off

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:18 AM, SteveB wrote:
> 1987 300d coninues to run when I turn it off. There is plenty of vacuum and
> the manual shutoff just barely needs to be touched to shut the car off. Is
> this vacuum shutoff adjustable, or is there a diaphram I need to replace?

The problem in my experience (once you have ruled out leaks in the
vacuum lines feeding the shutoff unit, of course) is usually a
hairline crack in the nipple on top of the unit where the line
connects.  I never heard of anyone adjusting one or replacing a
diaphragm or any other internal parts, only replacing the shutoff unit
as a whole.  However, R&Ring it is a minor pain since it's squeezed
under the intake crossover pipe.  I fixed mine in situ by careful
application of epoxy around the outside of the nipple, and it's worked
fine since then for a couple of years.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

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[MBZ] 1987 300d W124 does not shut off

[SteveB]

1987 300d coninues to run when I turn it off. There is plenty of vacuum and
the manual shutoff just barely needs to be touched to shut the car off. Is
this vacuum shutoff adjustable, or is there a diaphram I need to replace?

Steve
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Re: [MBZ] 126 brake caliper rebuild

[pm7088]

Big tip here, Call Rusty and get rebuilt, if I remember right they come loaded. 


-- 

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Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 10:51:41 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [MBZ] 126 brake caliper rebuild 

The right front brake has a slight drag so I'm going to rebuild the 
front calipers. Who has any tips and BTDTs for rebuilding the 
calipers? I can remember to keep it very clean (don't scratch the 
cylinder walls or pistons) and use gentle pressure (air or fluid?) on 
the pistons to remove them. Is this a fairly easy process? TIA all, 

Luther 

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Re: [MBZ] How does this work?

[Thomas Savage]

Rich Thomas wrote:

1999 Mercedes Benz E320 converted to E55 AMG

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1205877986.html

Do you just rip some badges off a random E55 and glue them on?  Should 
you put an "R" sticker on too to make it faster?


Yeah, but all those performance parts will drag down your fuel economy. 
 Better add a few of those "Coexist" stickers to bring it back up; I 
think the Prius forum has a how-to for this.


Tom

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[MBZ] 126 brake caliper rebuild

[Luther]

The right front brake has a slight drag so I'm going to rebuild the 
front calipers.  Who has any tips and BTDTs for rebuilding the 
calipers?  I can remember to keep it very clean (don't scratch the 
cylinder walls or pistons) and use gentle pressure (air or fluid?) on 
the pistons to remove them.  Is this a fairly easy process?  TIA all,


Luther

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Re: [MBZ] seat finally repaired

[Jim Cathey]

I paid $500 for the full set for the SL, all seven pieces.


I think that's six pieces, I think I decided the armrest
(an obvious replacement non-MBTEX vinyl) was still in plenty
good shape.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[andrew strasfogel]

Could be old car smell (stale cigarette smoke) or a slipping transmission
("it always does this")

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> That car has been on CL for maybe 3 or 4 months now, I wonder what is wrong
> with it.  I might go look at it just for grins.
>
> --R
>
>
> Jim Cathey wrote:
>
>> How the mighty have fallen...
>>> Seriously, did anyone ever think that a decent 107 SL would ever be
>>> selling
>>> for only $3k?
>>>
>>
>> I can only hope that it's got serious ACC, etc., problems.
>> Doesn't bode well for my selling Ethelred for even what
>> I've got into it in parts.  (Poor Ethelred has a 20' paint
>> job.)  One day I'll learn...
>>
>> -- Jim
>>
>>
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[MBZ] anyone want an E320?

[Loren Faeth]

Our E320 is officially for sale now.

1994 E320, Green, no rust.  Body in good shape, but clearcoat peeling 
on roof, hood and LF fender top.  Some tears on seat bottoms, but 
"repaired"  Runs good. No problems with Trans, Tires fair, on 8 hole 
OE rims.  (i've had Blizzaks on it, but keeping them and those 
wheels) ~170k miles.  Cat was cut out, and replacement pipe is 
somewhat noisy.  (sounds like a 6 cyl ricer)  Sunroof opens and 
closes correctly.  Overall, it is a good solid car, with some 
cosmetic issues.  It is a good daily driver. $2500


Driving:  It is tight, powerful, and shifts correctly.  It is fun to drive.

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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[Rich Thomas]

That car has been on CL for maybe 3 or 4 months now, I wonder what is 
wrong with it.  I might go look at it just for grins.


--R

Jim Cathey wrote:

How the mighty have fallen...
Seriously, did anyone ever think that a decent 107 SL would ever be 
selling

for only $3k?


I can only hope that it's got serious ACC, etc., problems.
Doesn't bode well for my selling Ethelred for even what
I've got into it in parts.  (Poor Ethelred has a 20' paint
job.)  One day I'll learn...

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Fuel prices jumping up

[Curt Raymond]

Yup we're up about $0.30 in a month.
Diesel is just slightly less than regular at most stations.

The price of oil has been rising slowly and with the onset of the driving 
season I think the stations are looking to make a little for a change.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 21:55:53 -0600
From: Craig McCluskey 
Subject: [MBZ] Fuel prices jumping up
To: mercedes 
Message-ID: <20090604215553.1f8fa55f.diese...@cnsp.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Our prices here in Los Alamos have gone up noticably since the beginning
of May (graph attached).

Anyone else seen this phenomenon? Any ideas why it's happening? The
beginning of the summer driving season maybe?



Craig


  
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Re: [MBZ] here is a car for Luther

[Luther]

hahaha

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



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Re: [MBZ] seat finally repaired

[Bill R]

I thought about that, but the small amount of the total seats that needed
replacing was quite small, and I have never tried any of that sort of thing.
At this point I don't expect I really want to learn.  I can't do the lifting
or pulling anymore.
BillR

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Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] seat finally repaired

> upholstery shop yesterday.  The new pieces [driver's seat and seat back
> where you slide in and out, top and side of arm rest] are just a bit 
> darker
> than the rest, but I suppose 28 years of occasional sun will fade 
> things a
> bit.  They did a fine job and the seat is a whole lot better, though I 
> think
> the bill was a bit skewed.  They put it at $200 parts and $20 labor for
> replacing the spring base with mine and putting in the new pieces.

The spring base comes off pretty easily, their numbers might not
be all that skewed.  You know Rusty can get pre-sewn new covers,
right?  I paid $500 for the full set for the SL, all seven pieces.
You might have been able to DIY with official factory MB-TEX
pieces (sewn by GAHH) for about the same price.  (I haven't put
mine on yet, I've got a lot stacked up in front of doing that.)
Depends on if the sale is still on, or maybe whether GAHH tanked
anyway.

> Is it possible to replace just the vinyl piping on a W123 arm rest?  
> It's
> cracked and pinches my forearm when I rest my arm on it.

Don't think so.  Just as expensive to replace the entire cover.
And maybe that's not so expensive.  Try Rusty.  Or goop some
glue over the pinchy bits.  Or cut them with a knife so that
the edges don't meet anymore and it stops pinching.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] seat finally repaired

[Bill R]

Actually I have not checked the other side of the armrest, but on mine at
least the center and driver's side piece are new.  Mine was cracked badly on
the top, right where your arm sits on it.  I need to go out and take a
better look today.  When I picked it up yesterday it was raining very hard
and I just wanted to get home.
BillR 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] seat finally repaired

Is it possible to replace just the vinyl piping on a W123 arm rest?  It's
cracked and pinches my forearm when I rest my arm on it.




On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Bill R  wrote:

> I finally took the spring base I got from Kaleb last year and hit the
> upholstery shop yesterday.  The new pieces [driver's seat and seat back
> where you slide in and out, top and side of arm rest] are just a bit
darker
> than the rest, but I suppose 28 years of occasional sun will fade things a
> bit.  They did a fine job and the seat is a whole lot better, though I
> think
> the bill was a bit skewed.  They put it at $200 parts and $20 labor for
> replacing the spring base with mine and putting in the new pieces.  They
> had
> it for 6 hours, but it is hard to imagine they could do the seat removal,
> base replacement, disassembly and sewing in the new pieces and reinstall
> for
> $20, or that the replacement pieces were $200.  Doesn't matter, I guess.
> I'm quite pleased with the result.
>
> BillR
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel prices jumping up

[Mitch Haley]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Its too bad we dont have tom to post "todays diesel prices" 
everyday.


Ya know, that's the first thing I thought when he left in a snit.
I didn't think much of it, figured he'd be back soon enough.
I subscribed myself and Klebbie to weekly gas and diesel prices.
Kleb will have to confirm if he wants to get them.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/listserv_signup.html

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[Jim Cathey]

How the mighty have fallen...
Seriously, did anyone ever think that a decent 107 SL would ever be 
selling

for only $3k?


I can only hope that it's got serious ACC, etc., problems.
Doesn't bode well for my selling Ethelred for even what
I've got into it in parts.  (Poor Ethelred has a 20' paint
job.)  One day I'll learn...

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Re: [MBZ] seat finally repaired

[Jim Cathey]

upholstery shop yesterday.  The new pieces [driver's seat and seat back
where you slide in and out, top and side of arm rest] are just a bit 
darker
than the rest, but I suppose 28 years of occasional sun will fade 
things a
bit.  They did a fine job and the seat is a whole lot better, though I 
think

the bill was a bit skewed.  They put it at $200 parts and $20 labor for
replacing the spring base with mine and putting in the new pieces.


The spring base comes off pretty easily, their numbers might not
be all that skewed.  You know Rusty can get pre-sewn new covers,
right?  I paid $500 for the full set for the SL, all seven pieces.
You might have been able to DIY with official factory MB-TEX
pieces (sewn by GAHH) for about the same price.  (I haven't put
mine on yet, I've got a lot stacked up in front of doing that.)
Depends on if the sale is still on, or maybe whether GAHH tanked
anyway.

Is it possible to replace just the vinyl piping on a W123 arm rest?  
It's

cracked and pinches my forearm when I rest my arm on it.


Don't think so.  Just as expensive to replace the entire cover.
And maybe that's not so expensive.  Try Rusty.  Or goop some
glue over the pinchy bits.  Or cut them with a knife so that
the edges don't meet anymore and it stops pinching.

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Re: [MBZ] A/C thanks

[Jim Cathey]

the fittings don't always fit, so they need to be fiddled.


A friend came over last night, bearing beer and a couple
of cans of secret sauce, and we recharged his Axxess again.
Seems to last about two years, and has been doing so for
maybe six years since the AC shop diagnosed it as having
'massive leaks' and needing a complete replacement to the
tune of a couple of grand or so.

In fact, here at the beginning of its third cooling season
it was still working, just a bit weak.  We got him down to
39 degree vent temps whilst sitting in the driveway with
a fine water mist on the condenser.  Only in the low 80's
ambient, though.

It costs him just about the same for the beer as for the
stuff for the car.  He seems happy with the deal.

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Re: [MBZ] seat finally repaired

[andrew strasfogel]

Is it possible to replace just the vinyl piping on a W123 arm rest?  It's
cracked and pinches my forearm when I rest my arm on it.




On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Bill R  wrote:

> I finally took the spring base I got from Kaleb last year and hit the
> upholstery shop yesterday.  The new pieces [driver's seat and seat back
> where you slide in and out, top and side of arm rest] are just a bit darker
> than the rest, but I suppose 28 years of occasional sun will fade things a
> bit.  They did a fine job and the seat is a whole lot better, though I
> think
> the bill was a bit skewed.  They put it at $200 parts and $20 labor for
> replacing the spring base with mine and putting in the new pieces.  They
> had
> it for 6 hours, but it is hard to imagine they could do the seat removal,
> base replacement, disassembly and sewing in the new pieces and reinstall
> for
> $20, or that the replacement pieces were $200.  Doesn't matter, I guess.
> I'm quite pleased with the result.
>
> BillR
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Re: [MBZ] Wow, a car guy buys a car company

[Allan Streib]

Maybe he'll agree to fix your timing chain oilers.

Gary Hurst  writes:

> penske is a genius.  he can make this work
>
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Rich Thomas <
> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>
>> Surely doomed to failure -- I hope he elevates a bunch of bean counters to
>> senior executive positions.
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/06/business/06saturn.html
>>
>> --R

-- 
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Re: [MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[andrew strasfogel]

How the mighty have fallen...

Seriously, did anyone ever think that a decent 107 SL would ever be selling
for only $3k?



On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1206079738.html
>
> --R
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[MBZ] THE GODFATHER PART ONE

[Rich Thomas]

OK this is the last one.  CL is just so much fun this morning.

http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/1205765611.html

AUTO SHOWCASE 17 specializes in PRESTINE AFFORDABLE CERTIFIED PRE-OWNED 
VEHICLES priced $9988 and BELOW


--R

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[MBZ] How does this work?

[Rich Thomas]

1999 Mercedes Benz E320 converted to E55 AMG

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1205877986.html

Do you just rip some badges off a random E55 and glue them on?  Should 
you put an "R" sticker on too to make it faster?


--R

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[MBZ] RUNS GREAT,MADE IN GERMANY!!!!

[Rich Thomas]

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1206079738.html

--R

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[MBZ] seat finally repaired

[Bill R]

I finally took the spring base I got from Kaleb last year and hit the
upholstery shop yesterday.  The new pieces [driver's seat and seat back
where you slide in and out, top and side of arm rest] are just a bit darker
than the rest, but I suppose 28 years of occasional sun will fade things a
bit.  They did a fine job and the seat is a whole lot better, though I think
the bill was a bit skewed.  They put it at $200 parts and $20 labor for
replacing the spring base with mine and putting in the new pieces.  They had
it for 6 hours, but it is hard to imagine they could do the seat removal,
base replacement, disassembly and sewing in the new pieces and reinstall for
$20, or that the replacement pieces were $200.  Doesn't matter, I guess.
I'm quite pleased with the result.

BillR  

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Re: [MBZ] Wow, a car guy buys a car company

[Gary Hurst]

penske is a genius.  he can make this work

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> Surely doomed to failure -- I hope he elevates a bunch of bean counters to
> senior executive positions.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/06/business/06saturn.html
>
> --R
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[MBZ] A/C thanks

[Rich Thomas]

Last week I recharged the A/C on my truck.  I had done this many times 
before with marginal results.  I was going to take it to a shop to get 
it checked, but was going on a trip so just wanted to hook up a can and 
get some juice in there.  Anyway, while doing that, a little bell rung 
and I remembered someone saying that the fittings don't always fit, so 
they need to be fiddled.  So I fiddled the fitting, and quid malberg in 
plano, a lot of juice went in, a/c was BLOWING ICE COLD.  YEA!


Another benefit of the okie benz list.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] methanol

[Rich Thomas]

Yum, methanol.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25579687-2703,00.html

--R

relng...@aol.com wrote:
...My recollection (possibly faulty) is that methanol, like ethanol, is 
broken down by the liver but that its metabolic byproduct is formaldehyde, 
which isn't all that good for you...



Precisely. Which is why Alaska and Montana among others no longer use MTBE 
as a gasoline additive.


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