Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump

[Jim Cathey]

Don't see, yet, how I can easily and "safely" hold the fan


Don't tell anybody, but I padded the jaws of some vise-grips
and clamped to the pulley/belt.

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Re: [MBZ] Parking made easy

[Walt Zarnoch]

Till the software goes belly up.

Walt, who doesn't care for robopark...

On Sep 7, 2010 12:18 AM,  wrote:

http://www.woehr.de/en/projekte/budapest_m730/index.htm

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

[Mitch Haley]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 I wonder what is wrong with it.



140,000 miles might have something to do with it.

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[MBZ] Parking made easy

[RELNGSON]

http://www.woehr.de/en/projekte/budapest_m730/index.htm

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Re: [MBZ] M1 atf $17 for 3 quarts

[Craig]

On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:57:35 -0400 Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Buy 3 quarts of M1 ATF for $26.97 at
> http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/
> 
> and enter coupon code BIG10 for $10 off, and select pickup at your
> local store. You could also get $25 off on 7 quarts with BIG25.

Nice discount. We don't have Advance Auto here, unfortunately, only
Autozone.


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Re: [MBZ] M1 atf $17 for 3 quarts

[Walt Zarnoch]

Nice, time to stock up on gear lube for when I redo my tranny and diffs!

Walt

On Sep 6, 2010 11:57 PM, "Mitch Haley"  wrote:

Buy 3 quarts of M1 ATF for $26.97 at
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/

and enter coupon code BIG10 for $10 off, and select pickup at your local
store.
You could also get $25 off on 7 quarts with BIG25.

I get an error every time I try to use coupon LC123, but it is a valid
coupon.

Any order with motor oil in it will negate the discount coupon.

Unfortunately, they don't sell any DOT 5.1 brake fluid since Valvoline got
rid of Synpower. (but their battery prices become somewhat reasonable at 40%
off)


BIG5 - $5 off $15
BIG10 - $10 off $25
LC123 - $16 off $40 (exp 9/15)
BIG15 - $15 off $40
EMMG - $20 off $50 (exp 9/13)
A123 - $10 Off $30 / $20 Off $50 / $30 Off $100
ES123 - $10 Off $30 / $20 Off $50 / $30 Off $100
LS123 - $10 Off $30 / $20 Off $50 / $30 Off $100
BIG25 - $25 off $60
LC123 - $24 off $60 (exp 9/15)
BIG30 - $30 off $75
LC123 - $32 off $80 (exp 9/15)
BIG35 - $35 off $85
LC123 - $40 off $100 (exp 9/15)
BIG40 - $40 off $100
BIG50 - $50 off $200

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[MBZ] M1 atf $17 for 3 quarts

[Mitch Haley]

Buy 3 quarts of M1 ATF for $26.97 at
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/

and enter coupon code BIG10 for $10 off, and select pickup at your local store.
You could also get $25 off on 7 quarts with BIG25.

I get an error every time I try to use coupon LC123, but it is a valid coupon.

Any order with motor oil in it will negate the discount coupon.

Unfortunately, they don't sell any DOT 5.1 brake fluid since Valvoline got rid 
of Synpower. (but their battery prices become somewhat reasonable at 40% off)



BIG5 - $5 off $15
BIG10 - $10 off $25
LC123 - $16 off $40 (exp 9/15)
BIG15 - $15 off $40
EMMG - $20 off $50 (exp 9/13)
A123 - $10 Off $30 / $20 Off $50 / $30 Off $100
ES123 - $10 Off $30 / $20 Off $50 / $30 Off $100
LS123 - $10 Off $30 / $20 Off $50 / $30 Off $100
BIG25 - $25 off $60
LC123 - $24 off $60 (exp 9/15)
BIG30 - $30 off $75
LC123 - $32 off $80 (exp 9/15)
BIG35 - $35 off $85
LC123 - $40 off $100 (exp 9/15)
BIG40 - $40 off $100
BIG50 - $50 off $200

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

[Craig]

On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 21:46:16 -0400 "WILTON"  wrote:

> No longer listed.

Try the second link Mitch posted. He commented it truncated the first too
much.


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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

[Craig]

On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:14:59 -0500 Mountain Man 
wrote:

> Craig wrote:
> > They even have it for Linux, though you have to look carefully at the
> > page to see the link.
> 
> hmmm - all I saw was XP installer
> I'll need to take another look-see.
> If you come up with the link - put it up here - thanks.

It's on

http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_download.php

right below the "Free Internet Explorer 8" ad and right above
"Plugins/Extensions, Themes, and more:"

Once you see the right link, it takes you to
http://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1638
where the links are obvious.

I downloaded it last night, but couldn't get it to run on CentOS 5.4. The
error message was:

./iron: error while loading shared libraries: libgio-2.0.so.0: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory

I haven't had a chance and haven't felt like tracking down libgio.


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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

[Craig McCluskey]

On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:44:41 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:

>   I wonder what is wrong with it.

The listing says, "AC works great blows ice cold air ..."

No wonder.


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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

 I wonder what is wrong with it.

On 9/6/2010 8:05 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Mitch Haley wrote:


Here's the cheapest I've seen:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=28571827



Oopos, truncated that link too much:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=285718276

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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump

[WILTON]

Of course!  ;<)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Frederick" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump


Because the bolt is in the hub and the fan is connected with the  
viscous clutch.  T'will spin mightily!


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

[WILTON]

No longer listed.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Mitch Haley" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI




Here's the cheapest I've seen:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=28571827

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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump

[Peter Frederick]

Because the bolt is in the hub and the fan is connected with the  
viscous clutch.  T'will spin mightily!


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Making progress on the 603 bent rod car

[Peter Frederick]

Watch that you don't lose the index pin on the camshaft -- my brother  
managed to dislodge it, the cam broke, bent a valve and wrecked a  
brand new valve guide.  Not sure how he did it since I wasn't there,  
but watch out -- it may pull out if you pull the sprocket, for instance.


My brother's SDL now runs great, it's back at the tranny shop to find  
out what went wrong with the rebuild.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] W123 stuck fuel sending unit

[OK Don]

3. - Your roads are too smooth to provide the vibration needed to get the
float to follow the fuel level. You need to drive in Oklahoma once in a
while :-)

I try to keep track of the miles, and don't trust the gauges on these older
cars.

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 7:04 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

> The fuel gauge in my 1985 300TD read "full" for 2 weeks while the miles
> piled on. For this period, the gauge returned to zero with the  engine off
> and then steadfastly remained pinned at F with nary a flicker as the miles
> accumulated and the days marched by.  Finally, at 353 miles I broke  down
> and filled up the car with 14.6 gallons of diesel.  That was Saturday.
>  Today (Monday), with 150 miles having passed without a change in the
> gauge,
> bingo! - I noticed that the gauge had moved down to 3/4 full.  Since then,
> the gauge has reflected normal fuel consumption and  now reads < 1/2 full.
>  Two questions:
>
> 1) Does this erratic behavior reflect a faulty gauge or stuck sending unit?
>
> 2) if the latter, how do I remove the sending unit to inspect and perhaps
> unjam or clean it?


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Re: [MBZ] W123 stuck fuel sending unit

[andrew strasfogel]

Brilliant and abundantly clear!  Just one followup Q:

*You can take it from here, but I like to plug things before putting it back
in the tank to check the low fuel light and the gauge.  Gently tip it up and
down to see if the gauge changes position.  If so, you're done.*

Does this mean I should reconnect the plug and tilt the unit around with the
key in the #2 ignition position and watch for changes in the gauge?  Or
should the engine actually be running while this test is carried out??

ALS
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 8:24 PM, LWB250  wrote:

> This is an easy one -
>
> If you pull the carpet up from the cargo area, you will see a large (3"-4")
> plastic plug or cap.  Pry this up and you'll be looking at the top of the
> sending unit.
>
> Get a big crescent or channel lock pliers, and after you unplug the wiring
> harness, unscrew the sending unit.
>
> WARNING!
>
> Remove it very, very slowly.  Why?  Because it will be full of fuel and the
> bleed hole(s) in it are very, very small.  Best to do this after you have
> run the tank down as low as possible, as it minimizes the potential for a
> mess.
>
> As you withdraw it from the tank you'll hear the fuel dripping, so be
> patient and wait for it to stop.
>
> Once you have it out, find a clean place to disassemble the sending unit.
>  I like a workbench with a couple of junk towels I can put things on as I
> remove them.
>
> On the bottom is a small (8mm?) nut.  Unscrew this and then carefully
> remove the metal disc that covers the bottom.  After that comes off, there
> will be a plastic disc that has all sorts of grooves in it.  I'll explain
> the reason for this later.
>
> Once the plastic disc comes off, the metal cylinder that is the outside of
> the sending unit can be removed.  Do this carefully.
>
> After the metal tube is removed you'll be able to see the business parts of
> the sending unit - the float and guide wires.  Get some good quality
> electrical contact cleaner and carefully clean the wires, sliding contacts,
> and brass disc on the bottom of the float that triggers the low fuel lamp.
>
> If either of the wires are broken, it's usually at the solder joint on the
> bottom.  Reflow this joint with good quality 60-40 solder, if possible.  If
> the wires are broken elsewhere, you may be out of luck, as they are nichrome
> and a specific resistance to properly control the gauge.
>
> It sounds like your float is stuck or the wipers are making poor or
> intermittent contact.  A good cleaning will take care of this.
>
> After cleaning all the parts, reassemble in the reverse order.  Take note
> that the plastic disc on the bottom has to mate with the flat metal disc in
> order to work properly.  What this does is meter the flow of fuel in and out
> of the gauge sender, so you don't have a wildly swinging gauge due to the
> float moving up and down constantly.  Fuel has to make it through this
> labyrinth of passages to get in/out of the float chamber, so the level
> changes very slowly.
>
> You can take it from here, but I like to plug things before putting it back
> in the tank to check the low fuel light and the gauge.  Gently tip it up and
> down to see if the gauge changes position.  If so, you're done.
>
> Dan
>
>
> --- On Mon, 9/6/10, andrew strasfogel  wrote:
>
> > From: andrew strasfogel 
> > Subject: [MBZ] W123 stuck fuel sending unit
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > Date: Monday, September 6, 2010, 8:04 PM
> > The fuel gauge in my 1985 300TD read
> > "full" for 2 weeks while the miles
> > piled on. For this period, the gauge returned to zero with
> > the  engine off
> > and then steadfastly remained pinned at F with nary a
> > flicker as the miles
> > accumulated and the days marched by.  Finally, at 353
> > miles I broke  down
> > and filled up the car with 14.6 gallons of diesel.
> > That was Saturday.
> >  Today (Monday), with 150 miles having passed without a
> > change in the gauge,
> > bingo! - I noticed that the gauge had moved down to 3/4
> > full.  Since then,
> > the gauge has reflected normal fuel consumption and
> > now reads < 1/2 full.
> >  Two questions:
> >
> > 1) Does this erratic behavior reflect a faulty gauge or
> > stuck sending unit?
> >
> > 2) if the latter, how do I remove the sending unit to
> > inspect and perhaps
> > unjam or clean it?
> >
> > TIA, as usual.
> >
> > Andrew
> > 1985 300TD
> > 1983 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

[Mitch Haley]

Mitch Haley wrote:


Here's the cheapest I've seen:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=28571827



Oopos, truncated that link too much:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=285718276

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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

[Mitch Haley]

Here's the cheapest I've seen:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=28571827

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Re: [MBZ] Odometer issues, the new 300D50, to roll forward or not roll forward?

[Walt Zarnoch]

Well, it's settled. The title for the TX truck shows 112K miles, and
"mileage exceeds mechanical limits". So I'll just leave it as is, and call
it a day.

Walt, who's going to be elbows deep in a Mitsubishi tomorrow.

On Aug 28, 2010 4:42 PM, "Peter Frederick"  wrote:

In Indiaian, it's only fraud if you mis-represent the mileage.  If the
odometer does not match the actual milage, you just check the box on the
title that says "odometer does not indicate actual mileage" and all is good.

I believe that all states have some similar mechanism for recording that the
mileage shown on the odometer is not correct -- it's not a crime for the
odometer to read incorrectly, it's a crime to represent the odometer reading
as correct when you know it's not.

Peter



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Re: [MBZ] W123 stuck fuel sending unit

[LWB250]

This is an easy one - 

If you pull the carpet up from the cargo area, you will see a large (3"-4") 
plastic plug or cap.  Pry this up and you'll be looking at the top of the 
sending unit.

Get a big crescent or channel lock pliers, and after you unplug the wiring 
harness, unscrew the sending unit.

WARNING!

Remove it very, very slowly.  Why?  Because it will be full of fuel and the 
bleed hole(s) in it are very, very small.  Best to do this after you have run 
the tank down as low as possible, as it minimizes the potential for a mess.

As you withdraw it from the tank you'll hear the fuel dripping, so be patient 
and wait for it to stop.

Once you have it out, find a clean place to disassemble the sending unit.  I 
like a workbench with a couple of junk towels I can put things on as I remove 
them.

On the bottom is a small (8mm?) nut.  Unscrew this and then carefully remove 
the metal disc that covers the bottom.  After that comes off, there will be a 
plastic disc that has all sorts of grooves in it.  I'll explain the reason for 
this later.

Once the plastic disc comes off, the metal cylinder that is the outside of the 
sending unit can be removed.  Do this carefully.

After the metal tube is removed you'll be able to see the business parts of the 
sending unit - the float and guide wires.  Get some good quality electrical 
contact cleaner and carefully clean the wires, sliding contacts, and brass disc 
on the bottom of the float that triggers the low fuel lamp.

If either of the wires are broken, it's usually at the solder joint on the 
bottom.  Reflow this joint with good quality 60-40 solder, if possible.  If the 
wires are broken elsewhere, you may be out of luck, as they are nichrome and a 
specific resistance to properly control the gauge.

It sounds like your float is stuck or the wipers are making poor or 
intermittent contact.  A good cleaning will take care of this.

After cleaning all the parts, reassemble in the reverse order.  Take note that 
the plastic disc on the bottom has to mate with the flat metal disc in order to 
work properly.  What this does is meter the flow of fuel in and out of the 
gauge sender, so you don't have a wildly swinging gauge due to the float moving 
up and down constantly.  Fuel has to make it through this labyrinth of passages 
to get in/out of the float chamber, so the level changes very slowly.

You can take it from here, but I like to plug things before putting it back in 
the tank to check the low fuel light and the gauge.  Gently tip it up and down 
to see if the gauge changes position.  If so, you're done.

Dan


--- On Mon, 9/6/10, andrew strasfogel  wrote:

> From: andrew strasfogel 
> Subject: [MBZ] W123 stuck fuel sending unit
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Monday, September 6, 2010, 8:04 PM
> The fuel gauge in my 1985 300TD read
> "full" for 2 weeks while the miles
> piled on. For this period, the gauge returned to zero with
> the  engine off
> and then steadfastly remained pinned at F with nary a
> flicker as the miles
> accumulated and the days marched by.  Finally, at 353
> miles I broke  down
> and filled up the car with 14.6 gallons of diesel. 
> That was Saturday.
>  Today (Monday), with 150 miles having passed without a
> change in the gauge,
> bingo! - I noticed that the gauge had moved down to 3/4
> full.  Since then,
> the gauge has reflected normal fuel consumption and 
> now reads < 1/2 full.
>  Two questions:
> 
> 1) Does this erratic behavior reflect a faulty gauge or
> stuck sending unit?
> 
> 2) if the latter, how do I remove the sending unit to
> inspect and perhaps
> unjam or clean it?
> 
> TIA, as usual.
> 
> Andrew
> 1985 300TD
> 1983 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] ArchLinux

[Mountain Man]

Craig wrote:
> They even have it for Linux, though you have to look carefully at the
> page to see the link.

hmmm - all I saw was XP installer
I'll need to take another look-see.
If you come up with the link - put it up here - thanks.
mao

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[MBZ] W123 stuck fuel sending unit

[andrew strasfogel]

The fuel gauge in my 1985 300TD read "full" for 2 weeks while the miles
piled on. For this period, the gauge returned to zero with the  engine off
and then steadfastly remained pinned at F with nary a flicker as the miles
accumulated and the days marched by.  Finally, at 353 miles I broke  down
and filled up the car with 14.6 gallons of diesel.  That was Saturday.
 Today (Monday), with 150 miles having passed without a change in the gauge,
bingo! - I noticed that the gauge had moved down to 3/4 full.  Since then,
the gauge has reflected normal fuel consumption and  now reads < 1/2 full.
 Two questions:

1) Does this erratic behavior reflect a faulty gauge or stuck sending unit?

2) if the latter, how do I remove the sending unit to inspect and perhaps
unjam or clean it?

TIA, as usual.

Andrew
1985 300TD
1983 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

[John Freer]

Has 2 batteriesone to start and operate the engine, another one to
handle auxiliary functions also known as " convenience items", in MB
talk. At least, that's what the  "Error Message" said!

John
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:44 PM, WILTON  wrote:
> Aux battery?
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "John Freer" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI
>
>
> Have an 05 with 52K miles. 35 mpg road, 25 town and 0-60 in 6.7
> seconds...best diesel MB ever made!
>
> 05 is the last year of the straight 6 and doesn't have a chemical
> plant under it. Only trouble I have had was the glow plugs had an
> upgrade, aux battery went out and a bolt vibrated loose and messed up
> the serpentine belt system All covered under warranty.
>
> Best car I have ever owned!
>
> John
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:21 PM, WILTON  wrote:
>>
>> Uh-oh! I've taken a peek!
>>
>> There's a white/grey '05 320CDI (100 kmi) nearby; 'asking $20k. I'm
>> thinking max. 16-17k.
>>
>> What do y'all think? If I look, what should I look for on this?
>>
>> Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

[WILTON]

Aux battery?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "John Freer" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI


Have an 05 with 52K miles. 35 mpg road, 25 town and 0-60 in 6.7
seconds...best diesel MB ever made!

05 is the last year of the straight 6 and doesn't have a chemical
plant under it. Only trouble I have had was the glow plugs had an
upgrade, aux battery went out and a bolt vibrated loose and messed up
the serpentine belt system All covered under warranty.

Best car I have ever owned!

John

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:21 PM, WILTON  wrote:

Uh-oh! I've taken a peek!

There's a white/grey '05 320CDI (100 kmi) nearby; 'asking $20k. I'm 
thinking max. 16-17k.


What do y'all think? If I look, what should I look for on this?

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 05 320CDI

[John Freer]

Have an 05 with 52K miles. 35 mpg road, 25 town and 0-60 in 6.7
seconds...best diesel MB ever made!

05 is the last year of the straight 6 and doesn't have a chemical
plant under it. Only trouble I have had was the glow plugs had an
upgrade, aux battery went out and a bolt vibrated loose and messed up
the serpentine belt system All covered under warranty.

Best car I have ever owned!

John

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:21 PM, WILTON  wrote:
> Uh-oh!  I've taken a peek!
>
> There's a white/grey '05 320CDI (100 kmi) nearby; 'asking $20k.  I'm thinking 
> max. 16-17k.
>
> What do y'all think?  If I look, what should I look for on this?
>
> Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Making progress on the 603 bent rod car

[Craig McCluskey]

On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 17:57:08 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:

> Maybe in 10 years it will be back in the car!!  NOT.  I hope to at
> least have the thing either ready to drop in, or dropped in ready to
> bolt up by the end of next weekend.

We all wish you success.


Craig

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[MBZ] 140 ball joints

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

 Am I seeing things or do the ball joints on the 140 just need to 
be unbolted to be replaced?  Looks like its just got a big stem 
that slides into a hole held on with a big bolt.  If this is true, 
why the heck didnt they make all the cars this way??


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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL screaming for help

[WILTON]

'Gonna try that tomorrow.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL screaming for help


 Is this the car that was loosing coolant?  I would guess water pump. 
Pull the belt and see how everything rolls.


On 9/6/2010 12:22 PM, WILTON wrote:
Just started the SDL; loud metallic scream/squeal coming from lower right 
corner of engine; alternator or water pump?

What next?

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump

[WILTON]

'Just took another look; 'don't see the ridges or holes yet, but the fan 
shroud, etc, is still on; 'haven't gotten to the point I can see it well 
yet - just reviewing the situation.  BTW, why couldn't I secure the fan and 
coupling as a unit by tying a rope or cord at the BASE of 2 or 3 blades and 
tie it off over to the side to keep it from turning CCW?


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "WILTON" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump


Thanks, I'll look for something like that.  MB price for a simple tool is 
'zackly why I'm looking for the very "economical" (cheap), homemade tool.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Frederick" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump


On my 300D, there is a pair of raised ridges on the bearing housing. Bend 
a stiff wire that fits into the holes in the fan housing and use those 
two ridges to hold the wire while unscrewing the 8mm bolt from  the hub. 
Should be fairly easy with a short piece of pipe over the  8mm Allen key, 
which is the way I do it.  You will have to use both  hands to unscrew 
the bolt.


Naturally, Benz sells an expensive tool that does the same thing.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

 Go to harbor freight, they have the tool for less than $10.

On 9/6/2010 5:14 PM, WILTON wrote:

Any tips on R&R of water pump.

'Don't see, yet, how I can easily and "safely" hold the fan coupling it from turning.  
The written directions mention a "counter holder," which I don't have.  It's probably 
something that slips over the fins securely enough to hold it from turning without break/deforming 
them.

Wilton
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 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D,
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[MBZ] Making progress on the 603 bent rod car

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

 I got the bottom end buttoned back up.  Got the head installed 
today and torqued down.  Next put the cam shaft back on and the 
misc bits here and there then that engine will be ready to drop 
back in.  Planning on degreasing the engine bay and the engine as 
they are both a horrible mess.  Maybe in 10 years it will be back 
in the car!!  NOT.  I hope to at least have the thing either ready 
to drop in, or dropped in ready to bolt up by the end of next weekend.


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 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic,
 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D,
http://www.okiebenz.com


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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL screaming for help

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

 yep

On 9/6/2010 5:03 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote:

Kaleb will buy it for $500, I'm sure.

Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon

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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL screaming for help

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

 Is this the car that was loosing coolant?  I would guess water 
pump.  Pull the belt and see how everything rolls.


On 9/6/2010 12:22 PM, WILTON wrote:

Just started the SDL; loud metallic scream/squeal coming from lower right 
corner of engine; alternator or water pump?
What next?

Wilton

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[MBZ] Indy in Kalamazoo, Mi

[Mike Esh]

Looking for a a reliable, friendly, reasonable mercedes diesel  
mechanic to help with my son-in-laws' 1985 300D project.  Any  
suggestions would be appreciated.  Not much luck at the dealership so  
far.  Tried to schedule an alignment for the front end and they put us  
down for one month later.

Mike

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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump

[WILTON]

Thanks, I'll look for something like that.  MB price for a simple tool is 
'zackly why I'm looking for the very "economical" (cheap), homemade tool.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Frederick" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump


On my 300D, there is a pair of raised ridges on the bearing housing. 
Bend a stiff wire that fits into the holes in the fan housing and use 
those two ridges to hold the wire while unscrewing the 8mm bolt from  the 
hub.  Should be fairly easy with a short piece of pipe over the  8mm Allen 
key, which is the way I do it.  You will have to use both  hands to 
unscrew the bolt.


Naturally, Benz sells an expensive tool that does the same thing.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump

[Peter Frederick]

On my 300D, there is a pair of raised ridges on the bearing housing.   
Bend a stiff wire that fits into the holes in the fan housing and use  
those two ridges to hold the wire while unscrewing the 8mm bolt from  
the hub.  Should be fairly easy with a short piece of pipe over the  
8mm Allen key, which is the way I do it.  You will have to use both  
hands to unscrew the bolt.


Naturally, Benz sells an expensive tool that does the same thing.

Peter

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[MBZ] 05 320CDI

[WILTON]

Uh-oh!  I've taken a peek!

There's a white/grey '05 320CDI (100 kmi) nearby; 'asking $20k.  I'm thinking 
max. 16-17k.

What do y'all think?  If I look, what should I look for on this?

Wilton 
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Re: [MBZ] Indy Mechanic in Austin, TX??

[Craig McCluskey]

On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 13:24:35 -0700 "Greg Fiorentino"
 wrote:

> Hi:
> 
> Do any of you know of a reliable Benz shop in Austin TX?  One of my
> sons is moving there with my '80 240D that I am gifting him.

YES!!!

Ben's Workshop
410 Pressler St
Austin, TX 78703
(512) 472-6517

Just south of 5th and Pressler. 5th street is the main drag, eastbound,
through downtown. 6th street (the music scene place) is the main drag,
westbound, through downtown.


Craig

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[MBZ] 91 350SDL water pump

[WILTON]

Any tips on R&R of water pump.

'Don't see, yet, how I can easily and "safely" hold the fan coupling it from 
turning.  The written directions mention a "counter holder," which I don't 
have.  It's probably something that slips over the fins securely enough to hold 
it from turning without break/deforming them.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL screaming for help

[WILTON]

Yeah, I already had that thought.

Wilton

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Kaleb will buy it for $500, I'm sure.

Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon

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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL screaming for help

[Kevin Kraly]

Kaleb will buy it for $500, I'm sure.

Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon

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Re: [MBZ] Europa

[RELNGSON]

I sold a working Europa that was OE in a '68 911 to a friend in the 
restoration business in PA a while back for a hundred bucks. Original papers 
etc. 
Just the ticket for a resto.

Those old Beckers are nothing special.

RLE
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[MBZ] Indy Mechanic in Austin, TX??

[Greg Fiorentino]

Hi:

Do any of you know of a reliable Benz shop in Austin TX?  One of my sons is
moving there with my '80 240D that I am gifting him.

TIA

Greg




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Re: [MBZ] Today' Crack Smoker

[E M]

Maybe it's one of those, buy the radio, and get the car thrown in for free
deals.

Ed
300E

On 6 September 2010 14:55, Russ Williams  wrote:

> Becker Europa Radio
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260660626655&v
> iewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123
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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL screaming for help

[WILTON]

I even stuffed a paper towel under it coupla days ago hoping to find wet 
towel after a good drive; still no wetness.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Frederick" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL screaming for help


Because it only leaks at fairly high rpm.  At idle or stopped, no  leak. 
All the coolant dribbled out while you were driving, leaving  spots on the 
highway, but not the drive.


I've had several water pumps do this over the years, it's hard to see 
what's going on if they don't leak out the upper weep hole, as the 
coolant drains away from the bottom one pretty fast.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL screaming for help

[Peter Frederick]

Because it only leaks at fairly high rpm.  At idle or stopped, no  
leak.  All the coolant dribbled out while you were driving, leaving  
spots on the highway, but not the drive.


I've had several water pumps do this over the years, it's hard to see  
what's going on if they don't leak out the upper weep hole, as the  
coolant drains away from the bottom one pretty fast.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Today' Crack Smoker

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Russ Williams  wrote:
> Becker Europa Radio
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260660626655&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123
>
>

I'd really like to believe that the guy entered a zero too many while
posting his auction and didn't notice.

On the other hand there are plenty of people who think that any used
part is worth its weight in gold if it came out of a Mercedes.  I see
this all the time on Craigslist with people trying to sell battered
sets of 300E pancake wheels for $500.

Alex

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[MBZ] Today' Crack Smoker

[Russ Williams]

Becker Europa Radio
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260660626655&v
iewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123


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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL screaming for help

[WILTON]

'Been leaning that way for several days, but how could a water pump lose so 
much water without any outward clue?


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Mitch Haley" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL screaming for help



WILTON wrote:
Just started the SDL; loud metallic scream/squeal coming from lower right 
corner of engine; alternator or water pump?

What next?



Dead water pump would explain more than one recent issue, would it not?

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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL screaming for help

[WILTON]

Me, too.

Wilton

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From: "Peter Frederick" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL screaming for help


Slipping belt or something grinding.  I'd lay money on a dead water  
pump



Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL screaming for help

[Mitch Haley]

WILTON wrote:

Just started the SDL; loud metallic scream/squeal coming from lower right 
corner of engine; alternator or water pump?
What next?



Dead water pump would explain more than one recent issue, would it not?

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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL screaming for help

[Peter Frederick]

Slipping belt or something grinding.  I'd lay money on a dead water  
pump



Peter

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[MBZ] 91 350SDL screaming for help

[WILTON]

Just started the SDL; loud metallic scream/squeal coming from lower right 
corner of engine; alternator or water pump?
What next?

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] Back to the ring and once again Roger is stuck in reverse

[Mitch Haley]

Hendrik & Fay wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxwRgSZiKTk




Another point of view:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRI5Zdtqe8U

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Re: [MBZ] was ArchLinux, now news services

[Mitch Haley]

Walt Zarnoch wrote:

I'll take Brit leftism over "must not say anything the current
administration deems improper" any day. 


From what little TV news I've seen, it appears that the All Barack Channel and 
the National Barack Channel have had their lips firmly attached to His Royal 
Backside since about six months before the election. CBS is more neutral, like 
the Swiss in WWII. They're too proud to suck up to the administration, but they 
aren't going to go spreading any nasty truths about it either.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Virus attack on the Information minister

[Allan Streib]

> Anyway, it is my intent to audition yet another antivirus program.  My
> first program was compromised--Zone Alarm, and now my second
> one--Shield Deluxe Pro--went down as well.

Zone Alarm is not strictly an antivirus program.  It does not look for
virus signatures in files you download, etc.  What it does is block
unauthorized network connections to/from your computer.

> Any suggestions out there?  I seem to get 6 months to a year out of a
> security suite before it gets penetrated.

I'd take a hard look at the sites you are visiting, what you are
downloading, and be extra cautions with email attachments.  Also be sure
your Windows Firewall is active.  Getting a virus every 6 months seems
quite extreme to me if you are running defensive programs.  I think I've
gotten one in about the last 10 years.

I have been running Avast! as my real-time anti-virus for the last few
years, and it seemed to do a good job.  I've since switched to Windows
Security Essentials since it's free (Avast! has a free version too, but
you have to re-register every so often).

I also periodically scan the system with Malwarebytes and Ad-Aware, and
remove whatever it suggests.  I find that all these programs will find a
few things that the others did not, so it seems that having several
different defenses in place is better than relying on just one.

Another good idea is to replace your local "hosts" file with the one
from http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm  This will block most ad
tracking you as you browse; it also blocks a number of domains that are
known to contain malware.  Note, if you do this you will find that the
"paid links" in Google search results no longer function, but I never
click those anyway so it's not an issue for me.  You will need to
manually update this every few months as it's constantly updated.

Finally, it's a good idea to put a router between your cable/dsl modem
and your computer.  Even if you aren't using wireless or multiple
computers at home, the router gives you a private network between your
computer and the internet, almost like another firewall.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Virus attack on the Information Minister

[Brian Smyla]

I omitted the link to the TDSSKiller software:

http://support.kaspersky.com/viruses/solutions?qid=208280684


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Re: [MBZ] Virus attack on the Information Minister

[Brian Smyla]

I myself have seen this malware, along with a stealthy exploit that will
randomly redirect google search result clicks.  As previously mentioned,
System Restore may resolve the issues.  Some of the malware will corrupt
your restore points (as happened with MY system), leaving you unable to use
them.  Here's how I got rid of the malware:

The first bit of malware mentioned does a lot of nasty things, including
antivirus popups, disallowing execution of certain important applications,
and blocking sites where anti-malware software can be downloaded.  The
second bit of malware (TDSS rootkit) doesn't really let you know that it's
there, other than redirecting your google searches behind the scenes.  The
main symptom is that when you click on a google search result, you will be
sent to an advertising page that may or may not be related to your original
search.  To rid yourself of these, do the following:

Note - I still run XP, so these instructions are for XP.  They should also
work on newer versions of Windows, but specific instructions related to
navigating in Windows may vary. You will need access to a non-infected
computer.

1. From a *non-infected* system, download the free version of Malwarebytes'
anti-malware, AND the mbam-rules.exe file which contains the latest
anti-malware rules for the software.  The link is:
http://www.gt500.org/malwarebytes/

2. From the same *non-infected* system, download the file TDSSKiller.zip

3. Copy these three files to a USB thumb drive

4. Boot your *infected* computer into Safe Mode without networking (also
disable your wifi via the hardware switch if possible, and unplug any
Ethernet cables)

5. Copy the three files to the *infected *computer.

6. Execute / unpack the three files onto the *infected *computer.

7. Run the malwarebytes anti-malware application, using the full scan
option.

8. Get a cup of coffee, but continue to watch the application - you may need
to reboot during the scan.  You can leave after 20 minutes or the first
reboot, whichever comes first.  This may take some time.

9. Select the option to remove all malware detected.

10. The system will reboot.  Be sure to boot back into Safe Mode.

11. Run the TDSSKiller application.

12. After following the instructions and rebooting, your system should be
back to normal.

This is what worked for me regarding these two pieces of malware.  Again,
YMMV.

-- 
Brian Smyla
Contract Wind Turbine Technician
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Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL trirsty

[John Reames]

I had a bad head gasket on an 84 SD which only leaked out of the side of the 
engine; the only traces were a couple of faint vertical whitish yellow 
"stripes" on the block just above the oil pan (not the sump pan).  I think the 
stripes were deposits left behind when all the water evaporated from the 
coolant.


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On Sep 5, 2010, at 16:21, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> My '81 300TD with a bad headgasket didn't make any white smoke at startup. If 
> you sat with it idling in the cold you'd lose yourself in the white 
> smokescreen though... That car would even hydro-lock if you left the radiator 
> cap on when you parked it...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 10:15:58 -0400
> From: "WILTON" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL trirsty
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
> 
> No white smoke on startup and during warmup.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Peter Frederick" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL trirsty
> 
> 
>> Watch for white smoke on startup -- when cold, the water in the  
>> coolant will make copious white smoke until the engine warms up.
>> 
>> Check for cold pressure in the coolant tank, also traces of oil
>> 
>> And check for coolant in the AC drains -- it's not impossible for the  
>> heater core or header to leak.
>> 
>> Check weep hole on the bottom of the water pump (a huge pain on that  
>> car) since it may only leak while running down the road.
>> 
>> 
>> Peter
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1977 Mercedes Benz 240 D Elegant Slug - $2800 (Wardsboro, VT)

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Well said-I will remember that. All humor aside, I liked both of my
240D's-my fist one was the first MB that I personally owned so it was  like
a first love-so to speak.(Now that I think of it, I had an girlfriend like
that too.)
Dwight 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. (Out for adption)  
1990 300D 2.5t 182K miles.
Wickford, RI

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Frederick W Moir
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 3:50 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: 1977 Mercedes Benz 240 D Elegant Slug - $2800
(Wardsboro, VT)

Honest and a sense of humor.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred

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Subject:1977 Mercedes Benz 240 D Elegant Slug - $2800 (Wardsboro,
VT)
Date:   Sun, 05 Sep 2010 12:46:41 -0700 (PDT)
From:   fred.s...@yahoo.com
To: fred.s...@verizon.net



fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting.

Please see below for more information.

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[MBZ] Back to the ring and once again Roger is stuck in reverse

[Hendrik & Fay]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxwRgSZiKTk

Hendrik
who is still picking on Roger but that's alright he can handle it

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