Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD new problem
I'll second that thought. Would that also manifest itself as a measurable AC waveform on top of the expected DC voltage? (I would also expect that it would kill batteries) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 29, 2010, at 11:02, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Something new, at least for me, when I turn the key to the off position and remove the key, the battery light comes on and stays on until battery is dead. One or more bad diodes in the alternator? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 torque steer?
Isn't torque steer on a multilink due to the application and release of pressure on the rear diff from the driveshaft? I don't know but this seems like the most logical interpretation from what I am experiencing now (mine is up for rebuild to). -Rolf On 11/29/2010 10:47 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: What happens is that the worn links allow the wheel carrier to tilt under side load or torque load. Obviously, the direction the wheel steers will depend on the force and which side it's applied to. While driving, a side force tends to push sideways on the links, allowing the wheel carrier to tilt inward on one side and outward on the other. Both wheels will steer into the push with one more than the other, usually, so the driver compensates and the car crabs down the road. When the pressure subsides, the car then steers with only the font wheels and veers over until the driver compensates again. Very annoying. When one side has good links and the other doesn't, only the wheel on the bad side steers and this is much much different than when both steer, especially on icy or wet roads. Torque steer is similar, except that in that case the wheels tend to both tip inward or outward, cancelling some of the effect. I've noticed very much more obvious torque steer since I replaced the links on the left side, but the crosswind motion is worse but not dramatically . Even a Benz will show some response to a 30 mph side gust! Petee ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Red 190D makes it to work!
well the boots on the drivers side tie rod are split and dry, but the other side looks fine although I suspect it may have bent a little when the ball joint broke last spring. On 11/29/2010 9:11 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Are you sure you have bad tie rod ends? It might be the idler and/or the center link. If the idler is bad, you can see the arm (from the right side) moving up and down while someone else moves the steering wheel a couple of inches back and forth. Or as said before, you can shake the RF wheel as previously suggested, while watching the end of the idler arm. Or, you can replace ball joints, tie rods, center link, struts, and strut mounts. When that doesn't fix it all, spend $16 for the idler arm kit. (the normal route) -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD new problem
I'll second that thought. Would that also manifest itself as a measurable AC waveform on top of the expected DC voltage? (I would also expect that it would kill batteries) If you had a o`scope, you would be able to see the ac and dc waveforms, but a multimeter will just average the readings. A small amount of AC (ripple) is normal and hurts nothing. Larger amounts indicate bad diodes. There are a lot of large diodes in a altenator. Just one shorted out can cause a battery drain. AC is only present when alternator is rotating. When rotating AC is converted to DC by the diode bank. The voltage regulator then clips the high voltage down to aroud 14 volts. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD new problem
Would that also manifest itself as a measurable AC waveform on top of the expected DC voltage? I'd expect so, but I've never had a scope available at the same time as a bad alternator to prove this out. In theory the AC ripple voltage would be higher too so that you could use a decent multimeter (like a Fluke) to diagnose this, but I've no proof, nor an idea of the magnitude of difference. The frequency of the ripple ought to measure differently, too. (Again, on a Fluke.) Be the first to document a case, and win our undying gratitude! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD new problem
Umm I thought that most VOM/DVM's had a capacitor in series with the input... This ensures that only the ac component is measured. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 30, 2010, at 8:57, Mike Gildea mikgi...@verizon.net wrote: I'll second that thought. Would that also manifest itself as a measurable AC waveform on top of the expected DC voltage? (I would also expect that it would kill batteries) If you had a o`scope, you would be able to see the ac and dc waveforms, but a multimeter will just average the readings. A small amount of AC (ripple) is normal and hurts nothing. Larger amounts indicate bad diodes. There are a lot of large diodes in a altenator. Just one shorted out can cause a battery drain. AC is only present when alternator is rotating. When rotating AC is converted to DC by the diode bank. The voltage regulator then clips the high voltage down to aroud 14 volts. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hot and cold - 1984 300D
If it has ever had green in it for any amount of time, my bets are on the head gasket. I had an 84SD that only lost coolant when really hot. I eventually saw streaks down the passenger side of the block that started at the head-block interface. (it had green in it when I bought it) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 28, 2010, at 22:19, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Not to be an Eyor, but I predict Mike is living on borrowed time. I can't see low coolant explaining his situation. I see low coolant as a symptom, not the problem. Water pump, head gasket, radiator, heater core? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 torque steer?
Bad links (actually worn out bushings) allow the torque load on the wheel to tilt the wheel carrier since the link ends move much more than they should. This allows the wheel to steer, causing the rear end to move sideways. When they are really bad, the rear end twitches on shifts at high power! Not a bad fix -- requires two 19 mm wrenches to get the old ones out and a triple square driver to get the new ones in. Must be SHORT to get the torque link installed properly, as the bolt head is behind the splash shield on the wheel carrier. Jack the wheel carrier up to normal ride height with the link bold LOOSE so the sleeves aren't trapped, then tighten. If you tighten the bolts with the suspension all the way down, the rear will be sitting an inch or two too high and will ride strangely until the rubber tears and you get to do the job again. Peter -Original Message- From: Rolf r...@winmutt.com Sent: Nov 30, 2010 7:50 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 torque steer? Isn't torque steer on a multilink due to the application and release of pressure on the rear diff from the driveshaft? I don't know but this seems like the most logical interpretation from what I am experiencing now (mine is up for rebuild to). -Rolf On 11/29/2010 10:47 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: What happens is that the worn links allow the wheel carrier to tilt under side load or torque load. Obviously, the direction the wheel steers will depend on the force and which side it's applied to. While driving, a side force tends to push sideways on the links, allowing the wheel carrier to tilt inward on one side and outward on the other. Both wheels will steer into the push with one more than the other, usually, so the driver compensates and the car crabs down the road. When the pressure subsides, the car then steers with only the font wheels and veers over until the driver compensates again. Very annoying. When one side has good links and the other doesn't, only the wheel on the bad side steers and this is much much different than when both steer, especially on icy or wet roads. Torque steer is similar, except that in that case the wheels tend to both tip inward or outward, cancelling some of the effect. I've noticed very much more obvious torque steer since I replaced the links on the left side, but the crosswind motion is worse but not dramatically . Even a Benz will show some response to a 30 mph side gust! Petee ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hot and cold - 1984 300D
I was under the impression that the main issue with green coolant was its short lifetime. If you are using regular green coolant you HAVE to change it yearly or bad things will happen. The G-05 additives and buffers last a lot longer. Allan On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:39 -0500, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: If it has ever had green in it for any amount of time, my bets are on the head gasket. I had an 84SD that only lost coolant when really hot. I eventually saw streaks down the passenger side of the block that started at the head-block interface. (it had green in it when I bought it) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 28, 2010, at 22:19, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Not to be an Eyor, but I predict Mike is living on borrowed time. I can't see low coolant explaining his situation. I see low coolant as a symptom, not the problem. Water pump, head gasket, radiator, heater core? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hot and cold - 1984 300D
Uh oh, this is sounding worse by the minute... On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I was under the impression that the main issue with green coolant was its short lifetime. If you are using regular green coolant you HAVE to change it yearly or bad things will happen. The G-05 additives and buffers last a lot longer. Allan On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:39 -0500, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: If it has ever had green in it for any amount of time, my bets are on the head gasket. I had an 84SD that only lost coolant when really hot. I eventually saw streaks down the passenger side of the block that started at the head-block interface. (it had green in it when I bought it) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 28, 2010, at 22:19, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Not to be an Eyor, but I predict Mike is living on borrowed time. I can't see low coolant explaining his situation. I see low coolant as a symptom, not the problem. Water pump, head gasket, radiator, heater core? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Trailer Wiring ??s
I bought a trailer, has electric brakes and a round plug for lights and brakes. My 2000 Suburban has a round plug receptacle, hooks up fine. My 96 Chebbie truck has a 4 terminal flat plug. I think I can find a 4 plug -- round receptacle adapter, or should I get another round receptacle and wire it in as well? Will that work the brakes (do they work off the lights or is there actually a brake circuit on the newer truck)? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Trailer Wiring ??s
Rich Thomas wrote: I bought a trailer, has electric brakes and a round plug for lights and brakes. My 2000 Suburban has a round plug receptacle, hooks up fine. My 96 Chebbie truck has a 4 terminal flat plug. I think I can find a 4 plug -- round receptacle adapter, or should I get another round receptacle and wire it in as well? Will that work the brakes (do they work off the lights or is there actually a brake circuit on the newer truck)? The brakes take some pretty good power. Won't run off a 4 wire light system. Is there a knob somewhere on the burb that adjusts the voltage to the brakes? If not, you might only be running the lights. Factory towing package on most trucks gets you a round Pollack style connector and a 4 pin flat adapter, but no brake controller. I haven't shopped around for a few years, but the Prodigy was one of the best controllers to buy back when I paid attention. Looks like there's a Prodigy 3 now. Don't ask me what's different from the P2. http://www.amazon.com/Tekonsha-90195-Electronic-Brake-Control/dp/B000P17NXQ http://www.amazon.com/Tekonsha-Prodigy-Brake-Control-Vehicles/dp/B003E1GLQY ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Trailer Wiring ??s
Some very new trucks have electric brake controls integrated with the truck's wiring and electronics. I tow 12k 5th wheel. I will only use the Prodigy and wire it carefully. Most vehicles in the last 15 years have plug in harness available, I strongly recommend them. -- - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:15:08 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT Trailer Wiring ??s I bought a trailer, has electric brakes and a round plug for lights and brakes. My 2000 Suburban has a round plug receptacle, hooks up fine. My 96 Chebbie truck has a 4 terminal flat plug. I think I can find a 4 plug -- round receptacle adapter, or should I get another round receptacle and wire it in as well? Will that work the brakes (do they work off the lights or is there actually a brake circuit on the newer truck)? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Trailer Wiring ??s
pm7...@comcast.net wrote: Some very new trucks have electric brake controls integrated with the truck's wiring and electronics. I tow 12k 5th wheel. I will only use the Prodigy and wire it carefully. Most vehicles in the last 15 years have plug in harness available, I strongly recommend them. I suppose one of us should say why we like the Prodigy. AFAIK, there are three ways the controllers work. 1. On/off, which allows you to set a brake level for the trailer and you get it whenever the brake lights are on. This leads to people setting the power low so it doesn't yank their teeth out when they tap the brake. 2. Progressive, which usually increases the power over time. No more useful in an emergency than the plain on/off type, as it doesn't get to full power until you're almost stopped anyway. Huge pita whenever conditions call for you to use sustained light braking, as you get full power after a few seconds and you don't want it. 3. Proportional. Trailer brakes are applied hard when the vehicle brakes are applied hard. It's the only safe way to go IMO. Jordan uses or used a cable to the brake pedal and measures pedal travel as a proxy for brake force (not ideal IMO, but if you get max trailer brakes by the time you get to max vehicle brakes, and it's somewhat proportional, it works well enough, and might get you max braking power a fraction of s second quicker than a Tekonsha Prodigy). Tekonsha senses the deceleration of the vehicle and operates the trailer brakes in proportion to how hard you're actually braking. It's truly proportional and has no mechanical cables to adjust/wear/stick. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: mercedes turbo diesel motor - $600 (orlando)
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[MBZ] Fwd: 87 mercedes turbo diesel engine 3.0 - $450 (mass)
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Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD new problem
Umm I thought that most VOM/DVM's had a capacitor in series with the input... This ensures that only the ac component is measured. True, to a point. Don`t expect much from a Harbor Freight type of meter. Depends on the quality (price) of the multimeter (DVM/VOM). More expensive meters do a better job. But for automotive use, were are primarly stuck with the cheaper units. Very little AC involved. Cheaper and older units use averaging counting methods as opposed to the more sophisticated sampling methods. They average highs and lows without displaying the deviation. You don`t know when there has been a dip or a spike . Peak/hold meters (higher end more expensive meters) capture and hold and then display the highest/lowest reading, instead of averaging. They can be programmed for specific hi and low variations. Some even have print outs over a specified time period. (ie power line monitors) This works well for capturing digital pulses, spikes, circuit loading. Fluke, as you are probably aware of, makes both high quality and mid quality units. A few low end units. One of their models is made for auto technicians. Most of their models are designed for touchy computer circuits. They also have one sweet digital display unit that gives digital readouts and also shows waveforms in a compact handheld device. Kind of like a handheld digital o`scope. Nice, but very very pricey. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol, again
OK Don wrote: This will be the downfall of the USA. I think you are wrong. I think this *was* the downfall of the USA. There is zero desire or movement away from listening to jazz about black friday / cyber monday - we love the palliative. We are dupes, we know that, and we do not want to change. We have fallen, and the news media is lying to us about all things trying to make us feel better, along with Madison Ave. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Front end squeeks. 87 300D
Take out the steering shock? I am pretty sure its the bj at this point. It protests the most when turning. Last night I went to pick up the car from storage and no squeeks! Today, squeeks! Had my hopes up to. Its totally rubber binding on metal. Still haven't had time to diagnose further. Perhaps this weekend. -Rolf On 11/18/2010 07:35 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Easy enough to take it out and check. It is easy to bend one of them RRing the engine! Much better thing to fix that a new ball joint. Reminds me to check mine, something it clunking up there again. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
What about 20W-50? That's also good for the older diesels. Sadly it's nearly always out of stock at all the local FLAPs, and Wal-Mart does not stock it at all anymore. I've been using Chevron Delo, but would like to use M1 for the winter time. Allan On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:34 -0500, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
Err I think it's actually 15W-50 On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:36 -0500, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: What about 20W-50? That's also good for the older diesels. Sadly it's nearly always out of stock at all the local FLAPs, and Wal-Mart does not stock it at all anymore. I've been using Chevron Delo, but would like to use M1 for the winter time. Allan On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:34 -0500, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Trailer Wiring ??s
You'll need the round connector and a brake controller, the flat 4 doesn't have provision for brakes, they need to be powered by the tow-er. -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:15:08 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT Trailer Wiring ??s Message-ID: 4cf514fc.6000...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I bought a trailer, has electric brakes and a round plug for lights and brakes. My 2000 Suburban has a round plug receptacle, hooks up fine. My 96 Chebbie truck has a 4 terminal flat plug. I think I can find a 4 plug -- round receptacle adapter, or should I get another round receptacle and wire it in as well? Will that work the brakes (do they work off the lights or is there actually a brake circuit on the newer truck)? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
glenn brown wrote: I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. 1. you have to buy it online for in store pickup. Limit 12 quarts per order. 2. It works on 15W50 and 0W40 but I can't get it to work on 5w40 Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD new problem
One of the MB manual CDs includes o'scope shots of various wave forms that let you differentiate between the two diode sets - peaks up or down - to isolate which ones are bad. I think I saw it in the 124 set. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Would that also manifest itself as a measurable AC waveform on top of the expected DC voltage? I'd expect so, but I've never had a scope available at the same time as a bad alternator to prove this out. In theory the AC ripple voltage would be higher too so that you could use a decent multimeter (like a Fluke) to diagnose this, but I've no proof, nor an idea of the magnitude of difference. The frequency of the ripple ought to measure differently, too. (Again, on a Fluke.) Be the first to document a case, and win our undying gratitude! -- Jim-- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. Do any manufacturers recommend 0W40, I wonder? I can't see needing to use 0W-anything, even a good synthetic, unless you lived somewhere ridiculously cold like inner Alaska. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol, again
The news media is only an extension of Madison Ave. It is neither liberal nor conservative - it is advertising, should to the highest bidder. the market always wins! On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.comwrote: OK Don wrote: This will be the downfall of the USA. I think you are wrong. I think this *was* the downfall of the USA. There is zero desire or movement away from listening to jazz about black friday / cyber monday - we love the palliative. We are dupes, we know that, and we do not want to change. We have fallen, and the news media is lying to us about all things trying to make us feel better, along with Madison Ave. mao-- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
Our vergasser van recommended 0w-30 for better economy - less drag on the engine with thinner oil. I don't use it though --- On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: Do any manufacturers recommend 0W40, I wonder? I can't see needing to use 0W-anything, even a good synthetic, unless you lived somewhere ridiculously cold like inner Alaska. Alex -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. Do any manufacturers recommend 0W40, I wonder? I can't see needing to use 0W-anything, even a good synthetic, unless you lived somewhere ridiculously cold like inner Alaska. Newer BMW, VW, and possibly MBZ? We have to remind ourselves that MBZ didn't stop manufacturing cars at the turn of the century. I think some of the Toyotas now take 0W20. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
I thought MB recommended it for their newest gasoline engines. I tried in in my OM617 once, and thought the engine sounded too noisy. Pressure was always OK though, even hot. Allan On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:38 -0800, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. Do any manufacturers recommend 0W40, I wonder? I can't see needing to use 0W-anything, even a good synthetic, unless you lived somewhere ridiculously cold like inner Alaska. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
Our Ford Focus, an '02, takes 0W-20. There is a Motorcraft synthetic blend in that weight, but I have normally used M1 in it. I do use the Motorcraft filters, not so much because I think they're great but Wal-Mart stocks them, they are not expensive, and I trust the OE brand more than Fram. 4 cylinder Zetec. On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:02 -0500, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. Do any manufacturers recommend 0W40, I wonder? I can't see needing to use 0W-anything, even a good synthetic, unless you lived somewhere ridiculously cold like inner Alaska. Newer BMW, VW, and possibly MBZ? We have to remind ourselves that MBZ didn't stop manufacturing cars at the turn of the century. I think some of the Toyotas now take 0W20. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD new problem
The frequency of the ripple should be calculably related to engine rpm (consider pulley diameters...) iirc some manufacturers used an AC output from an alternator as a tach sensor... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 30, 2010, at 9:11, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Would that also manifest itself as a measurable AC waveform on top of the expected DC voltage? I'd expect so, but I've never had a scope available at the same time as a bad alternator to prove this out. In theory the AC ripple voltage would be higher too so that you could use a decent multimeter (like a Fluke) to diagnose this, but I've no proof, nor an idea of the magnitude of difference. The frequency of the ripple ought to measure differently, too. (Again, on a Fluke.) Be the first to document a case, and win our undying gratitude! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD new problem
Yeah the scopemeters are neat. The 87/89 and (slightly upgraded) renumbered brethren (189) can simultaneously display an ac voltage and it's measured dc offset. It can also do duty cycle... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 30, 2010, at 11:27, Mike Gildea mikgi...@verizon.net wrote: Umm I thought that most VOM/DVM's had a capacitor in series with the input... This ensures that only the ac component is measured. True, to a point. Don`t expect much from a Harbor Freight type of meter. Depends on the quality (price) of the multimeter (DVM/VOM). More expensive meters do a better job. But for automotive use, were are primarly stuck with the cheaper units. Very little AC involved. Cheaper and older units use averaging counting methods as opposed to the more sophisticated sampling methods. They average highs and lows without displaying the deviation. You don`t know when there has been a dip or a spike . Peak/hold meters (higher end more expensive meters) capture and hold and then display the highest/lowest reading, instead of averaging. They can be programmed for specific hi and low variations. Some even have print outs over a specified time period. (ie power line monitors) This works well for capturing digital pulses, spikes, circuit loading. Fluke, as you are probably aware of, makes both high quality and mid quality units. A few low end units. One of their models is made for auto technicians. Most of their models are designed for touchy computer circuits. They also have one sweet digital display unit that gives digital readouts and also shows waveforms in a compact handheld device. Kind of like a handheld digital o`scope. Nice, but very very pricey. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hot and cold - 1984 300D
That and it's purported effects on plastic tanks. Green stuff was supposedly one of the causes of top tank outlet failures, IIRC. Dan (hot in FL today while I suck down a frappacino at Starbucks) --- On Tue, 11/30/10, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hot and cold - 1984 300D To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 9:45 AM I was under the impression that the main issue with green coolant was its short lifetime. If you are using regular green coolant you HAVE to change it yearly or bad things will happen. The G-05 additives and buffers last a lot longer. Allan On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:39 -0500, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: If it has ever had green in it for any amount of time, my bets are on the head gasket. I had an 84SD that only lost coolant when really hot. I eventually saw streaks down the passenger side of the block that started at the head-block interface. (it had green in it when I bought it) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 28, 2010, at 22:19, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Not to be an Eyor, but I predict Mike is living on borrowed time. I can't see low coolant explaining his situation. I see low coolant as a symptom, not the problem. Water pump, head gasket, radiator, heater core? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
Both my '04 Focus ZTW wagon and my son's 2005 Focus sedan (both with the 2.3l 4 cylinder engine ) call for 0W-20. I get a heck of a deal from the local Ford dealer for oil changes using their house brand synthetic blend, so I just use that. When I get a house and a garage again I may go back to M1 for both cars. I keep records religiously, and I saw no appreciable difference in mileage between M1 and the Motorcraft blend. FWIW, I get an oil and filter change, tire rotation and complete inspection for under $30 at the stealership. I can't do the work for that even if I had access to the required facilities. Dan --- On Tue, 11/30/10, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 2:09 PM Our Ford Focus, an '02, takes 0W-20. There is a Motorcraft synthetic blend in that weight, but I have normally used M1 in it. I do use the Motorcraft filters, not so much because I think they're great but Wal-Mart stocks them, they are not expensive, and I trust the OE brand more than Fram. 4 cylinder Zetec. On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:02 -0500, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Marshall and some others reported that OM60x engines ran noisy on 0W40 but 5W40 was OK. Do any manufacturers recommend 0W40, I wonder? I can't see needing to use 0W-anything, even a good synthetic, unless you lived somewhere ridiculously cold like inner Alaska. Newer BMW, VW, and possibly MBZ? We have to remind ourselves that MBZ didn't stop manufacturing cars at the turn of the century. I think some of the Toyotas now take 0W20. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hot and cold - 1984 300D
Actually the problem is MUCH more basic than lifetime. The proper stuff is of a neutral pH and is buffered to stay that way for a while. The green stuff has a pH of about 10-11, and bases will erode aluminum. Thankfully the OM61x engines have cast iron blocks and heads, but unfortunately, the head gaskets have some aluminum in them... If you have a Benz with an aluminum head, you can end up with an expensive head-job. Antifreeze is no more 1 size fits all than any lubricant is. Remember--for best performance, the green stuff goes in the wheel bearings and the yellow stuff goes in the radiator! -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 30, 2010, at 9:45, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I was under the impression that the main issue with green coolant was its short lifetime. If you are using regular green coolant you HAVE to change it yearly or bad things will happen. The G-05 additives and buffers last a lot longer. Allan On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:39 -0500, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: If it has ever had green in it for any amount of time, my bets are on the head gasket. I had an 84SD that only lost coolant when really hot. I eventually saw streaks down the passenger side of the block that started at the head-block interface. (it had green in it when I bought it) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 28, 2010, at 22:19, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Not to be an Eyor, but I predict Mike is living on borrowed time. I can't see low coolant explaining his situation. I see low coolant as a symptom, not the problem. Water pump, head gasket, radiator, heater core? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD new problem
- Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com One of the MB manual CDs includes o'scope shots of various wave forms that let you differentiate between the two diode sets - peaks up or down - to isolate which ones are bad. I think I saw it in the 124 set. _okiebenz.com Years ago there was a article in the star magazine about adapting a old suplus CRT type O scope for use on the Benzes electrical and ignition, It was intresting reading. Old analog scopes can be found cheap now days. I`ve played with my vintage Heathkit Auto analyzer scope on old delco alternators but never on the benzes. But alternators are very much alike in principle and theory. Not much use on a D or SD. Now i just use it on the old Beemer motorcycle or boat engine. No more cars with ignition systems. My heathkit manuals have a lot of photos of the wave froms and explain them in great detail (point ignition systems prior to Hall Effect and HEI ignitions). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
I put an email in to them and asked about that very thing as it seemed that way on the website. Still the 15w50 is a pretty dammed good oil and at that price I may pick up 12 quarts... -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:34:17 -0500 From: glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One Message-ID: snt140-w65c58e12d4e41007f56dc2f0...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Trailer Wiring ??s
Mitch Haley wrote: I suppose one of us should say why we like the Prodigy. AFAIK, there are three ways the controllers work. 1. On/off, 2. Progressive, 3. Proportional. Trailer brakes are applied hard when the vehicle brakes are applied hard. It's the only safe way to go IMO. I don't consider #1 or #2 to actually be a choice! I wasn't even aware they existed! Kinda scary... Jordan uses or used a cable to the brake pedal and measures pedal travel as a proxy for brake force You missed one. The old method was to tap into the hydraulic brake line and use that pressure to proportionally apply the electric brakes. It works very well - but it much more involved to install! Tekonsha senses the deceleration of the vehicle and operates the trailer brakes in proportion to how hard you're actually braking. It's truly proportional and has no mechanical cables to adjust/wear/stick. My Tekonsha AccuTrac allows me to set hard and soft levels making it pretty easy to adjust from an empty to 7,000lb (3,200 kg) load on the trailer. No digital display, but I call that a feature. :) --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
The online purchase worked for me last night. 3.99 for 12 Qt of 15W-50. As told, it shows up as $8 a qt until you check out, then the price is 3.99/Qt. I tried the additional 20% code, and it said the code worked, but the price was the same. What about 20W-50? That's also good for the older diesels. Sadly it's nearly always out of stock at all the local FLAPs, and Wal-Mart does not stock it at all anymore. I've been using Chevron Delo, but would like to use M1 for the winter time. Allan On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:34 -0500, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] another old wives tale
Do any manufacturers recommend 0W40, I wonder? I can't see needing to use 0W-anything, even a good synthetic, unless you lived somewhere ridiculously cold like inner Alaska. Alex.. Coupla small German outfits. Porsche and Mercedes. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Trailer Wiring ??s
I think I have that wire for the second one, it was in the truck when we bought it and I stuck it in the console. I vaguely remember someone saying it was for trailer brakes, or something to do with towing. I guess I had better go look at it. I guess I would still need to get one of these controllers, looks like the Burb has the plug to just plug it in. Then does that send power to the brakes through the round plug on the truck, that the trailer plugs into, once I plug it in? --R On 11/30/2010 10:33 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: I bought a trailer, has electric brakes and a round plug for lights and brakes. My 2000 Suburban has a round plug receptacle, hooks up fine. My 96 Chebbie truck has a 4 terminal flat plug. I think I can find a 4 plug -- round receptacle adapter, or should I get another round receptacle and wire it in as well? Will that work the brakes (do they work off the lights or is there actually a brake circuit on the newer truck)? The brakes take some pretty good power. Won't run off a 4 wire light system. Is there a knob somewhere on the burb that adjusts the voltage to the brakes? If not, you might only be running the lights. Factory towing package on most trucks gets you a round Pollack style connector and a 4 pin flat adapter, but no brake controller. I haven't shopped around for a few years, but the Prodigy was one of the best controllers to buy back when I paid attention. Looks like there's a Prodigy 3 now. Don't ask me what's different from the P2. http://www.amazon.com/Tekonsha-90195-Electronic-Brake-Control/dp/B000P17NXQ http://www.amazon.com/Tekonsha-Prodigy-Brake-Control-Vehicles/dp/B003E1GLQY ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
I have mixed 0-40 and 15W-50 at up to 50/50 with good results. I won't use 0w-40 in the older diesels (Iron or OM60x) I put an email in to them and asked about that very thing as it seemed that way on the website. Still the 15w50 is a pretty dammed good oil and at that price I may pick up 12 quarts... -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:34:17 -0500 From: glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One Message-ID: snt140-w65c58e12d4e41007f56dc2f0...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One, addendum
Guys, I recently purchased an '85 300TD from my brother and this car had been previously diagnosed with valve stem seals which need replacing as there's considerable oil smoke after startup from cold but disappears after ~ 5 min. of running. Since I seem to recall the honorable Dr. Booth indicating that synthetic oils tend to swell seals more than conventional/dino oils, I thought I'd try synthetic oil in the TD for a couple oils changes to see if this improves things before I seriously consider trying to replace the valve stem seals. Since I've only got a few hundred miles on the first synthetic oil change in the TD and the offer at Advance would be just too good to pass up, I thought I'd purchase some of the Mobil 1 5W-40 diesel truck oil ahead of time for the next oil change but the Advance Auto Parts store employee indicated that this oil is not on sale and I tried the purchase on the Net approach, where someone has indicated that the discount would show up in the cart electronically . . . Note: this does not occur. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One, addendum
glenn brown wrote: Guys, I recently purchased an '85 300TD from my brother and this car had been previously diagnosed with valve stem seals which need replacing as there's considerable oil smoke after startup from cold but disappears after ~ 5 min. of running. Since I seem to recall the honorable Dr. Booth indicating that synthetic oils tend to swell seals more than conventional/dino oils, I thought I'd try synthetic oil in the TD for a couple oils changes to see if this improves things before I seriously consider trying to replace the valve stem seals. Since I've only got a few hundred miles on the first synthetic oil change in the TD and the offer at Advance would be just too good to pass up, I thought I'd purchase some of the Mobil 1 5W-40 diesel truck oil ahead of time for the next oil change but the Advance Auto Parts store employee indicated that this oil is not on sale and I tried the purchase on the Net approach, where someone has indicated that the discount would show up in the ca rt electronically . . . Note: this does not occur. It occurs for everything but the diesel and motorcycle oils. Buy the 15W50 instead if you don't want to go to Wal-Mart or pay $8 for it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One, addendum
Hi Glenn, Your idea has merit, my '96 Dakota was leaking badly from the rear main seal, it was losing a qt in like 500 miles and I had no job or garage or tools to work on it (this was before I had a house) so I tried synthetic in it. After ~20,000 miles the leak had slowed to ~1qt in 3,000 miles and stayed that way for ~100,000 more miles until I got rid of the truck. You have to be patient though. My '78 240D leaks/consumes a fair amount, I haven't really tracked it but I'd say 1qt in 800 miles or so but I've gone to M1 and its improving slowly. The 5w40 doesn't qualify for the deal but the 15w50 does. While its not as light an oil as the 5w40 and not as good for cold weather its a considerable improvement in the cold over conventional 15w40. -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:45:47 -0500 From: glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One, addendum Message-ID: snt140-w178b3588245820edfe49c0f0...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Guys, I recently purchased an '85 300TD from my brother and this car had been previously diagnosed with valve stem seals which need replacing as there's considerable oil smoke after startup from cold but disappears after ~ 5 min. of running. Since I seem to recall the honorable Dr. Booth indicating that synthetic oils tend to swell seals more than conventional/dino oils, I thought I'd try synthetic oil in the TD for a couple oils changes to see if this improves things before I seriously consider trying to replace the valve stem seals. Since I've only got a few hundred miles on the first synthetic oil change in the TD and the offer at Advance would be just too good to pass up, I thought I'd purchase some of the Mobil 1 5W-40 diesel truck oil ahead of time for the next oil change but the Advance Auto Parts store employee indicated that this oil is not on sale and I tried the purchase on the Net approach, where someone has indicated that the discount would show up in the cart electronically . . . Note: this does not occur. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Trailer Wiring ??s
Hmmm, reading this propaganda item it seems like there might actually be a brake controller built in? http://www.bruceglueckchevy.com/preview/Suburban/ Suburban also incorporates features recently introduced on the new Chevy Silverado full-size pickup, such as pre-wired trailer connections, pre-wired brake controller, Tow/Haul mode on automatic transmissions that eliminates shift busy-ness on hilly terrain, and dynamic rear proportioning that helps maximize Suburban's rear brakes while trailering. For customers with boats, campers or horse trailers, Suburban keeps it simple. You just 'plug and play,' said Sohocki. I wonder what that cable is for then? --R On 11/30/2010 5:40 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I think I have that wire for the second one, it was in the truck when we bought it and I stuck it in the console. I vaguely remember someone saying it was for trailer brakes, or something to do with towing. I guess I had better go look at it. I guess I would still need to get one of these controllers, looks like the Burb has the plug to just plug it in. Then does that send power to the brakes through the round plug on the truck, that the trailer plugs into, once I plug it in? --R On 11/30/2010 10:33 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: I bought a trailer, has electric brakes and a round plug for lights and brakes. My 2000 Suburban has a round plug receptacle, hooks up fine. My 96 Chebbie truck has a 4 terminal flat plug. I think I can find a 4 plug -- round receptacle adapter, or should I get another round receptacle and wire it in as well? Will that work the brakes (do they work off the lights or is there actually a brake circuit on the newer truck)? The brakes take some pretty good power. Won't run off a 4 wire light system. Is there a knob somewhere on the burb that adjusts the voltage to the brakes? If not, you might only be running the lights. Factory towing package on most trucks gets you a round Pollack style connector and a 4 pin flat adapter, but no brake controller. I haven't shopped around for a few years, but the Prodigy was one of the best controllers to buy back when I paid attention. Looks like there's a Prodigy 3 now. Don't ask me what's different from the P2. http://www.amazon.com/Tekonsha-90195-Electronic-Brake-Control/dp/B000P17NXQ http://www.amazon.com/Tekonsha-Prodigy-Brake-Control-Vehicles/dp/B003E1GLQY ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Trailer Wiring ??s
The 4 plug will not work the brakes, you should upgrade the plug on your 96. The brake control wiring should already be in place but you will have to hook it up. On 11/30/2010 9:15 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: I bought a trailer, has electric brakes and a round plug for lights and brakes. My 2000 Suburban has a round plug receptacle, hooks up fine. My 96 Chebbie truck has a 4 terminal flat plug. I think I can find a 4 plug -- round receptacle adapter, or should I get another round receptacle and wire it in as well? Will that work the brakes (do they work off the lights or is there actually a brake circuit on the newer truck)? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Trailer Wiring ??s
why are those different than the one you can get at walmart? On 11/30/2010 9:46 AM, pm7...@comcast.net wrote: Some very new trucks have electric brake controls integrated with the truck's wiring and electronics. I tow 12k 5th wheel. I will only use the Prodigy and wire it carefully. Most vehicles in the last 15 years have plug in harness available, I strongly recommend them. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
You all are aware that they changed M1 to where its just a hydrocracked group 3 oil now? Not worth the price if you ask me. On 11/30/2010 4:02 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I put an email in to them and asked about that very thing as it seemed that way on the website. Still the 15w50 is a pretty dammed good oil and at that price I may pick up 12 quarts... -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:34:17 -0500 From: glenn browng_010...@hotmail.com To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One Message-ID:snt140-w65c58e12d4e41007f56dc2f0...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear end fun
Well I guess if I ever have to go into the rear end for something else or get bored and have nothing to do, HA! I will try that. There was really no problem with the springs when taking the rear end down or back up. The whole thing comes straight down and if you have the wheels off to begin with and the body supported, before you loosen the bolts that hold the rear end up, there is so little pressure on the springs that you could probably compress them more by sitting on one. I would definitely not loosen the rear end holding bolts with the weight of the car on the wheels! that could cause a little fun. Oh! I did mean to thank you Max for sending me that controller. Manfred Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:56:45 -0500 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear end fun It's a pain to do work twice, but I think shops have a way to compress the springs and measure the resistance, to see that they are both equal, or how far off they are. If you end up taking it apart again, maybe run the springs into a shop and see if they can do it for you. I would imagine it would take 5 minutes and only cost a few bucks. Really impossible to see visually if they are equal, even if they are the same diameter rod and equal length, uncompressed. Ed 300E ps, springs scare me by the way. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Trailer Wiring ??s
4-wire is: Left stop/turn Right stop/turn Marker lights Ground You need more, like the now-standard 7-wire Pollack connector, to get everything and the brakes. I liked the old plumb-in hydraulic brake controllers. I've got one in the garage, for the maybe someday project. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol, again
OK Don wrote: The news media is only an extension of Madison Ave. It is neither liberal nor conservative - it is advertising, should to the highest bidder. the market always wins! Agreed. You have made my point. We have already passed a point of recovery. We are a dead nation, pure and simple. There is zero desire for recovery, there is zero opportunity for recovery - we are run by a military-industrial-complex that pays Madison Ave, and we are duped by Madison Ave in all we think and desire. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One, addendum
The ONLY auto crancase additive I have ever used that actualy worked was NAPA Rear Main Bearing Seal Leak Repair. Add it to hot engine, run for 15 minutes and let sit o'nite. I've had this stuff swell up the seals on 3 old cars, a good $4 shot on an old car that's crapping up the driveway or oiling the clutch. -- Pete Arnold You win some, You loose some and You wreck some! -Dale Earnhardt- On 11/30/2010 5:52 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Hi Glenn, Your idea has merit, my '96 Dakota was leaking badly from the rear main seal, it was losing a qt in like 500 miles and I had no job or garage or tools to work on it (this was before I had a house) so I tried synthetic in it. After ~20,000 miles the leak had slowed to ~1qt in 3,000 miles and stayed that way for ~100,000 more miles until I got rid of the truck. You have to be patient though. My '78 240D leaks/consumes a fair amount, I haven't really tracked it but I'd say 1qt in 800 miles or so but I've gone to M1 and its improving slowly. The 5w40 doesn't qualify for the deal but the 15w50 does. While its not as light an oil as the 5w40 and not as good for cold weather its a considerable improvement in the cold over conventional 15w40. -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:45:47 -0500 From: glenn browng_010...@hotmail.com To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One, addendum Message-ID:snt140-w178b3588245820edfe49c0f0...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Guys, I recently purchased an '85 300TD from my brother and this car had been previously diagnosed with valve stem seals which need replacing as there's considerable oil smoke after startup from cold but disappears after ~ 5 min. of running. Since I seem to recall the honorable Dr. Booth indicating that synthetic oils tend to swell seals more than conventional/dino oils, I thought I'd try synthetic oil in the TD for a couple oils changes to see if this improves things before I seriously consider trying to replace the valve stem seals. Since I've only got a few hundred miles on the first synthetic oil change in the TD and the offer at Advance would be just too good to pass up, I thought I'd purchase some of the Mobil 1 5W-40 diesel truck oil ahead of time for the next oil change but the Advance Auto Parts store employee indicated that this oil is not on sale and I tried the purchase on the Net approach, where someone has indicated that the discount would show up in the cart electronically . . . Note: this does not occur. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Trailer Wiring ??s
Why is a Benz different from a Yugo? Better engineering and Quality Control. -- Pete Arnold Faith is knowing there is an ocean because you have see a brook. -William Arthur Ward- On 11/30/2010 6:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: why are those different than the one you can get at walmart? On 11/30/2010 9:46 AM, pm7...@comcast.net wrote: Some very new trucks have electric brake controls integrated with the truck's wiring and electronics. I tow 12k 5th wheel. I will only use the Prodigy and wire it carefully. Most vehicles in the last 15 years have plug in harness available, I strongly recommend them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
Source of info please... -- Pete Arnold When you get older, you don't regret the things you did in life. You regret the things you didn't do. On 11/30/2010 6:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You all are aware that they changed M1 to where its just a hydrocracked group 3 oil now? Not worth the price if you ask me. On 11/30/2010 4:02 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I put an email in to them and asked about that very thing as it seemed that way on the website. Still the 15w50 is a pretty dammed good oil and at that price I may pick up 12 quarts... -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:34:17 -0500 From: glenn browng_010...@hotmail.com To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One Message-ID:snt140-w65c58e12d4e41007f56dc2f0...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ATF for 240D (Red Line Application Guide issues)
interesting,... this bugged me, so i had to try it a couple of different ways. the pic i sent you initially was using Firefox; typically, my browser of choice. however, when i saw what you were seeing i tried it in Safari, and in Explorer under Winduhs XP, and i got the same thing you saw in the pic you sent me... sounds like Firefox is the Odd Man Out this time, and perhaps it's time for a call to Red Line to find out a) what they really recommend, and b) why it's not showing up the same in all browsers. cheers! e On 30/Nov/10 08:33, Mountain Man wrote: e wrote: i do the Search by Vehicle. under the select year pull-down, i click on choose year and click on1983 that highlights the Select Make pull-down, where i click on choose makeMercedes-Benz that highlights the Select Model pull-down, where i click on choose model240D that highlights the Select Engine pull-down, where i click on choose engine and select the only choice2.4L L4 Naturally Aspirated DIESEL at that point, the Select Transmission pull-down is greyed-out saying transmission not required click on the big Search button, and it gives you a list of all the Red Line products suggested for use on the vehicle you've defined above. the only transmission fluid in this list is D4 ATF (second item in the list). Hmmm... I did the exact same thing, and I got the first two like your image shows, and scroll down and the third item there is the MTL, no? Attached is the image from my screen... mao -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Picture 2.png Type: image/png Size: 254160 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101130/0910dc39/attachment.png -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Picture 3.png Type: image/png Size: 304856 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101130/0910dc39/attachment-0001.png ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One
There is a discussion going on another list about this very subject. There is no hard facts just observations. When someone from M1 was asked if their new 15w50 was PAO/ester or group III they avoided giving a straight answer. If it was in fact still group IV/V that would have been a good selling point. Apparently the reason for the question is the observation that the new formula starts burning off much sooner than the old formula. On 11/30/2010 8:28 PM, Peter T. Arnold wrote: Source of info please... -- Pete Arnold When you get older, you don't regret the things you did in life. You regret the things you didn't do. On 11/30/2010 6:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You all are aware that they changed M1 to where its just a hydrocracked group 3 oil now? Not worth the price if you ask me. On 11/30/2010 4:02 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I put an email in to them and asked about that very thing as it seemed that way on the website. Still the 15w50 is a pretty dammed good oil and at that price I may pick up 12 quarts... -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:34:17 -0500 From: glenn browng_010...@hotmail.com To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] $3.99 Mobil One Message-ID:snt140-w65c58e12d4e41007f56dc2f0...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I stopped by the local Advance Auto Parts store a little while ago and was told that the Mobil 1 5W-40 synthetic diesel oil is not on sale. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: 1985 Mercedes 300TD - $1000 (Beacon)
TD or NOT TD that is the question.
Not mine etc.
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