Re: [MBZ] One bar pressure warm oil
M117 engines can be a dangerous thing due to the potential for head bolt thread failure, which necessitates drilling out and installing threaded inserts (Helicoils) to fix. Part of this operation involves the use of a special MB jig, as the head bolt holes are not 90 degrees perpendicular to the surface of the block. Dan On May 23, 2012, at 10:06 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I am not knowing what running rich looks like, but will learn more about that. Compression was 140 all around but for two contiguous pistons with 130 and 120. That side also has very minor head gasket leak. PPI indy found all this and said the leak is a non issue at this point. The low compression is probably due to kruff on valve that solvents will remove. Indy says to just drive it and have fun. Rebuild or head work is more than the car is worth. He says this to everybody and seems to hate having people spend money fixing old cars. He is scheduled three days out and has all racks loaded. If I snag a cheap rebuild M117, that is cool with me. Or I wait, enjoy and when it goes downhill, I get him to rebuild. He does great work. clay On May 23, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Frederick Moir wrote: Running rich, did you say? Poor compression in two cyls? Gas dilution of the oel? My $0.2 worth. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One bar pressure warm oil Allan Streib wrote: First of all verify the gauge reading with a separate oil pressure gauge. Harbor Freight sells them. AFAIK for all Mercedes engines oil pressure gauge should be pegged above idle. If not it might be the pressure relieve valve or spring, or you might have worn main bearings. Is there an issue with filter stem o-rings like there is with the ON617? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph
Another thought about older MB's; 124's and 126's., I have an 84 300CD and a '87 300SDL, with fairly high mileage on both. Since I have owned them I have not driven them hard at all, barely ever hitting 75mph. Would it be bad for the engines to just start driving them faster and harder?? Should there be a breakin period, say driving a little faster gradually? Just wanting to do the best for these beauties. Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:24 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed - you will learn if there is abnormal wear in the engine, and get a feel for how much you could extend the change interval. My analysis results are coming back well within normal limits with M1 running at least 12,000 miles on all the engines. Granted, I'm not running an OM61x engine anymore though --- On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2012 20:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does oil analysis provide any benefit to those who change it every 3-4K miles? I use M1 5W40 Turbo Diesel Truck on my 240D and change it every 4K miles. I guess an oil analysis would tell me if I can extend that interval? Yup, sure would. You might be able to extend your oil change interval and save money. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 A/C Compressor
Tomorrow is 1/2 price day at P-N-P. I was going to pick up an A/C compressor or three. Can I pull any GM R4 and change the manifolds to fit the Mercedes? Rick On May 23, 2012, at 8:57 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Nope MB only. Reports are: if you use a gm unit, it does not get lubrication, and burns up the bearings. My understanding is that the MB unit hangs upside down from the GM unit. (no personal experience) This point has been debated to death. The 'upside down R4 will not last' is an Internet phenomena that is often repeated with slim factual support. Swaps have been made for decades with perfectly acceptable results. Theory is the small hole or X (if there is one) on the front should be up. Oil splashes around and collects in the hole - it then drips down onto the shaft, lubricating the bearing and seal. A GM compressor can be reclocked to maintain this orientation as desired. There is enough evidence to my mind that this is not required for a long lived R4. Some newer designs don't even have this 'feature'. Keep the correct amount of oil in the system at all times. If you have a freon leak, make sure your oil levels are maintained when you recharge. Run the system monthly to maintain lubrication. The oil miscibility of the freon in an R4 may be more important than in other designs but that does not mean a GM R4 will not work on an MB. Dave SoCal - '82 240D (3 pedal), '84 300TD (Euro), '85 300TD (Cali) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks
Fmiser wrote: Uhh. He has them all pointed to 127.0.0.1 - or localhost. In otherwords, a dead end. None of those will ever load anything. I don't think that's what you did in the schools A lot of schools block, or should block, facebook. I know my niece's high school does. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks
I think apple's decision to ban flash on the ipad/iphone is a good one. It is a pig. Flash was bad when it came out, and has never gotten any better. I generally don't allow flash to load, and quickly leave websites that require flash, unless there is something non-flash that is interesting. Interesting you say that. About every week the Flash updater wants to update Flash, which of course means going through some various hoops to get the files, approve the update, typing in codes, then shutting down the browser and restarting it, and various other annoying activities. Not sure how to kill Flash as it seems many sites require Flash to do various things. --R (who thought macs just worked) On 5/23/12 10:09 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Ditch Flash player, it eats 95% of CPU time while idle. Safari isn't anything to get excited about, either. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks
Adobe products are mildly annoying as are some websites who rely on them. Just yesterday T-Mobile sent me an mail saying my bill was ready. I had to download and install a new version of Acrobat Reader just to look at the bill and then I couldn't save it because of the way they created it. Normally on a Mac you can save as a PDF, or when you click Print, you can Print to PDF. However, this version of Acrobat expressly prohibits it. I complained to T-Mobile and am waiting their response. seems to be a feature of the latest version of actobat. Must have been required for a goobermint contract, as all the goobermint websites seem to now have this feature You can't print normally, If the acrappy (adby?) reader shows you a little print icon, you can print, but not save that way. It seems that the print icon can be turned on or off by the creator. if they forget to add it, you get a form you can;t print, and can't save. totally worthless. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks
Dieselhead wrote: I think apple's decision to ban flash on the ipad/iphone is a good one. It is a pig. Flash was bad when it came out, and has never gotten any better. I generally don't allow flash to load, and quickly leave websites that require flash, unless there is something non-flash that is interesting. What's fun is when you go to an auto manufacturer's home page, and the whole thing is one giant flash, with no obvious 'click here for html' to be seen. Do they want to sell you a car, or just piss you off? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph
Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: Another thought about older MB's; 124's and 126's., I have an 84 300CD and a '87 300SDL, with fairly high mileage on both. Since I have owned them I have not driven them hard at all, barely ever hitting 75mph. Would it be bad for the engines to just start driving them faster and harder?? Only easy and dependable way I know is used engine oil laboratory analysis. Larry Turner on this list provides the service; which ever lab you use, ensure they can test/report soot level. Sample engine now to establish a baseline, then make changes and observe results. If they were my cars, the engine and transmission would be maintained and tuned and the last things I would worry about is driving at speed. I would instead ensure tires, brakes, and suspension were all in good order. Highway miles at steady speed are the easiest miles for any car. City driving is the worst, especially short trips. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph
Drive them hard and fast. No problemo. --R On 5/24/12 7:15 AM, Ralph Robertson wrote: Another thought about older MB's; 124's and 126's., I have an 84 300CD and a '87 300SDL, with fairly high mileage on both. Since I have owned them I have not driven them hard at all, barely ever hitting 75mph. Would it be bad for the engines to just start driving them faster and harder?? Should there be a breakin period, say driving a little faster gradually? Just wanting to do the best for these beauties. Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:24 PM, OK Donokd...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed - you will learn if there is abnormal wear in the engine, and get a feel for how much you could extend the change interval. My analysis results are coming back well within normal limits with M1 running at least 12,000 miles on all the engines. Granted, I'm not running an OM61x engine anymore though --- On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Craigdiese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2012 20:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does oil analysis provide any benefit to those who change it every 3-4K miles? I use M1 5W40 Turbo Diesel Truck on my 240D and change it every 4K miles. I guess an oil analysis would tell me if I can extend that interval? Yup, sure would. You might be able to extend your oil change interval and save money. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! -
Probably slower than slow. Manual everything. No sunroof. A bit pricey. I sound a little glum about this one. Probably because I can't buy it :-) http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/3023478048.html -- Sent from CraigsPro+ for iPhone and iPod Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 A/C Compressor
That is correct. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 A/C Compressor Nope MB only. Reports are: if you use a gm unit, it does not get lubrication, and burns up the bearings. My understanding is that the MB unit hangs upside down from the GM unit. (no personal experience) Tomorrow is 1/2 price day at P-N-P. I was going to pick up an A/C compressor or three. Can I pull any GM R4 and change the manifolds to fit the Mercedes? Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Window Regulator
Hammer? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Window Regulator On May 23, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: You have to lower the window almost all the way down. Won't come out with the window up. Got an easy way to get the window down in the junkyard with no power? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One bar pressure warm oil
There is no such thing as a leaking head gasket being a non-issue. The head gasket is likely going bad between the two low cylinders. It will eventually destroy the head or block as the compression charge ignites and blows back and forth between the two. It may not be worth the money to fix but it is an issue for sure. Mike On May 23, 2012 10:06 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I am not knowing what running rich looks like, but will learn more about that. Compression was 140 all around but for two contiguous pistons with 130 and 120. That side also has very minor head gasket leak. PPI indy found all this and said the leak is a non issue at this point. The low compression is probably due to kruff on valve that solvents will remove. Indy says to just drive it and have fun. Rebuild or head work is more than the car is worth. He says this to everybody and seems to hate having people spend money fixing old cars. He is scheduled three days out and has all racks loaded. If I snag a cheap rebuild M117, that is cool with me. Or I wait, enjoy and when it goes downhill, I get him to rebuild. He does great work. clay On May 23, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Frederick Moir wrote: Running rich, did you say? Poor compression in two cyls? Gas dilution of the oel? My $0.2 worth. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One bar pressure warm oil Allan Streib wrote: First of all verify the gauge reading with a separate oil pressure gauge. Harbor Freight sells them. AFAIK for all Mercedes engines oil pressure gauge should be pegged above idle. If not it might be the pressure relieve valve or spring, or you might have worn main bearings. Is there an issue with filter stem o-rings like there is with the ON617? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! -
Aren't those like a taxi version? --R On 5/24/12 9:58 AM, Rick Knoble wrote: Probably slower than slow. Manual everything. No sunroof. A bit pricey. I sound a little glum about this one. Probably because I can't buy it :-) http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/3023478048.html -- Sent from CraigsPro+ for iPhone and iPod Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! -
Rick Knoble wrote: Probably slower than slow. Manual everything. No sunroof. A bit pricey. I sound a little glum about this one. Probably because I can't buy it :-) http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/3023478048.html I'd love to stick a 2.5 turbo in that car, but not enough to pay $6k for the body. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks
Exactly. When little Johnny wants to go to Pandora to listen to music instead of study or do research, we need to find a way to prevent him from accessing it. Hosts files are the perfect means of doing this, which is exactly why we use them. Easy to update and change, easy to manage. Dan On May 23, 2012, at 10:17 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2012 20:45:46 -0400 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Nothing like adding your favorite sites to the hosts file that's a simple workaround we used to do in the schools... Yes, indeed, but note the IPs he's assigned to them; a request for facebook anything doesn't leave his box. Craig On May 23, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Tim C bb...@crone.us writes: About the only way I know to handle Facebook is Chrome, so when it misbehaves at least you can close just the one tab. I handle facebook like this: $ grep facebook /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 facebook.com 127.0.0.1 connect.facebook.net 127.0.0.1 facebook.net 127.0.0.1 ads.facebook.com 127.0.0.1 ads.ak.facebook.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 108 kmi '94 E420Oskar 123 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 265 kmi Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT OK you apple geeks
We do, along with many other social networking sites. It's all part of CIPA, which affects out eligibility for Federal funds. We use hosts files regularly to selectively filter sites that may not be objectionable but are distracting. Dan On May 24, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Fmiser wrote: Uhh. He has them all pointed to 127.0.0.1 - or localhost. In otherwords, a dead end. None of those will ever load anything. I don't think that's what you did in the schools A lot of schools block, or should block, facebook. I know my niece's high school does. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Window Regulator
Use an old 12V power tool battery with a couple leads to check function on window regulators, etc. Good to check pin-outs on one before you go so you know which connections are needed for ups and downs. Dave SoCal - '82 240D (3 pedal), '84 300TD (Euro), '85 300TD (Cali) Got an easy way to get the window down in the junkyard with no power? Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Window Regulator
Take a portable Powerpack. Connect to motor wire(s). Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Window Regulator On May 23, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: You have to lower the window almost all the way down. Won't come out with the window up. Got an easy way to get the window down in the junkyard with no power? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! -
No sunroof! Great! Finally, another car that somebody didn't screw up. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:58 AM Subject: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! - Probably slower than slow. Manual everything. No sunroof. A bit pricey. I sound a little glum about this one. Probably because I can't buy it :-) http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/3023478048.html -- Sent from CraigsPro+ for iPhone and iPod Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! -
a European model never offered in this country very rare How long did you say it would take to get that part that prevents it from running, and how many did you say it would cost I guess in this day and age with internet and couriers etc, it is not insurmountable, but one has to think one will encounter issues of that nature. I also expect I would not be able to bring it into Canada if I did want it. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One bar pressure warm oil
Is there an issue with filter stem o-rings like there is with the ON617? That's what I was wondering. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:35 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] One bar pressure warm oil Allan Streib wrote: First of all verify the gauge reading with a separate oil pressure gauge. Harbor Freight sells them. AFAIK for all Mercedes engines oil pressure gauge should be pegged above idle. If not it might be the pressure relieve valve or spring, or you might have worn main bearings. Is there an issue with filter stem o-rings like there is with the ON617? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! -
Do certain entry restrictions not apply to a car of/over a certain age? Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! - a European model never offered in this country very rare How long did you say it would take to get that part that prevents it from running, and how many did you say it would cost I guess in this day and age with internet and couriers etc, it is not insurmountable, but one has to think one will encounter issues of that nature. I also expect I would not be able to bring it into Canada if I did want it. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph
You might also find they run even better. I am truly amazed by the improvement in my 115 300D. It was pretty sluggish when I got it compared to now. I have only driven it about 10 to 12K miles in the time I have had it but much of that has been fairly hard. I assume the previous owners had not really driven it hard and it must have been carboned up as now it is a tryly different car. I can recall feeling like I was abusing it when I was trying to maintain 60 mph on the highway. On this past Monday I was driving it 75 mph and it seemed to want to go faster. Randy On 24/05/2012 8:30 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Drive them hard and fast. No problemo. --R On 5/24/12 7:15 AM, Ralph Robertson wrote: Another thought about older MB's; 124's and 126's., I have an 84 300CD and a '87 300SDL, with fairly high mileage on both. Since I have owned them I have not driven them hard at all, barely ever hitting 75mph. Would it be bad for the engines to just start driving them faster and harder?? Should there be a breakin period, say driving a little faster gradually? Just wanting to do the best for these beauties. Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! -
I have not looked into it but I remember reading somewhere that one must be quite careful when one decides to import a car from the US into Canada. There are some that were never sold here and as such are apparently not permitted. I think the article said MB was about the worst for odd or unusual versions and if one decided to buy an MB in the USA, one would be prudent to ensure it was importable. I don't think there is any issue with most newer domestic vehicles but some imports may be an issue. I talked with a fellow one time at a car show who had brought in a hotrod - don't recall exactly what but a 1930's thing that had a newer V8 etc and disc brakes. He had a devil of a time getting a safety certificate to have it licenced because it did not have original brakes. He argued that what it had was obviously much better than the original mechanical drum brakes but that apparently made no difference. He had to find out what the brakes were from and provide evidence that the hot rod did not weigh more etc. They also made him buy new discs because he was unable to satisfy them that the discs were of sufficient thickness. Odd, but true. Randy On 24/05/2012 11:32 AM, WILTON wrote: Do certain entry restrictions not apply to a car of/over a certain age? Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! - a European model never offered in this country very rare How long did you say it would take to get that part that prevents it from running, and how many did you say it would cost I guess in this day and age with internet and couriers etc, it is not insurmountable, but one has to think one will encounter issues of that nature. I also expect I would not be able to bring it into Canada if I did want it. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Oil Filters 91 300D
Howdy -- It's time for me to stock up on Oil Filters and I find Rusty has the following: Bosch$9 Hengst$10 Full$ 7 Mann$13 Has anyone had bad experiences with any of the above? Good experiences? I tried to find specs (like filter size) but did not find any. Should I assume they are equal? Assume the most expensive is the best filter? Comments? LarryT 91 300D 2.5T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filters 91 300D
I can't really say. I always used Mann and Hengst in my Diesels and had 350K miles on the 300TD when I sold it and over 230K on the 300SD I'm still driving (no internal engine problems on either). But the other brands may be just as good. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:50 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Oil Filters 91 300D Howdy -- It's time for me to stock up on Oil Filters and I find Rusty has the following: Bosch$9 Hengst$10 Full$ 7 Mann$13 Has anyone had bad experiences with any of the above? Good experiences? I tried to find specs (like filter size) but did not find any. Should I assume they are equal? Assume the most expensive is the best filter? Comments? LarryT 91 300D 2.5T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filters 91 300D
On Thu, 24 May 2012 12:50:18 -0400 Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Howdy -- It's time for me to stock up on Oil Filters and I find Rusty has the following: Bosch$9 Hengst$10 Full$ 7 Mann$13 I would go for Hengst or Mann. Call Rusty at 1-800-741-5252 and ask him. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filters 91 300D
Mann and Hengst are OEM for Mercedes. Bosch is made who knows where and Full is Chinese junk. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 12:50:18 To: mercedes@okiebenz.commercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Oil Filters 91 300D Howdy -- It's time for me to stock up on Oil Filters and I find Rusty has the following: Bosch$9 Hengst$10 Full$ 7 Mann$13 Has anyone had bad experiences with any of the above? Good experiences? I tried to find specs (like filter size) but did not find any. Should I assume they are equal? Assume the most expensive is the best filter? Comments? LarryT 91 300D 2.5T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filters 91 300D 7avavaty
I would go for Hengst or Mann. Call Rusty at 1-800-741-5252 and ask him. Craig Agreed and seconded. Bosch is probably made in China by someone else. the other i've never heard of. Ask Q! He has the answers! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! - 7avavaty
a European model never offered in this country very rare How long did you say it would take to get that part that prevents it from running, and how many did you say it would cost I guess in this day and age with internet and couriers etc, it is not insurmountable, but one has to think one will encounter issues of that nature. I also expect I would not be able to bring it into Canada if I did want it. Randy Rusty can get the parts to your HW store in SD. Rusty knows all and can get all. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! -
Very hard to reason with gov. bureaurocrats; NCDMV is best example I know. BTW, 'renewed my drivers license day before yesterday. I'd put my driving ability up against any the examiner has ridden with for a LONG time. 'Betcha she thought that, too, by the end of the road test. 'Bet I did the quickest, smoothest 3-point turn she's seen. After having been driving for 64 years and not ever thinking about what it's called, I may have hesitated a bit when she asked me to do a 3-point turn, but I taught my # 1 grandson to do it for his driving test about 4 years ago, and with no hesitation at all, slipped right into it. In just a few seconds, it was done. Before the road test, she couldn't seem to understand that I need the walker to be able to stand and walk safely , but have no problem whatsoever sitting and driving. 'Started to ask her during the backing test if she'd like to hook a trailer behind the car and let me show her how to back it using the mirrors; I didn't ask, though, for fear of sounding like a smart ass. (Yes, I really am a smart ass - 'just didn't wanta SOUND like one.) I was really too nervous and up tight during the test - not for any lack of confidence in my ability to drive - just the thought of having to prove to a bureaucrat that my using a walker has no bearing whatsoever on my ability to drive - or hear, see, think, look to the rear when backing, etc. BTW, again, I have a very keen sense of situational awareness; I'm very aware of what's going on around me - what other vehicles are nearby, etc., and I carry what I call a running fix - I know where I am at all times. I know they can perform magic in the movies, etc., but when a cop or stalker pulls right out behind the subject and is not noticed seems especially ridiculous to me. If somebody pulls in behind ME, I notice it immediately. If I pull out of my driveway, and another car from nearby pulls right in behind me, I know it immediately. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! - I have not looked into it but I remember reading somewhere that one must be quite careful when one decides to import a car from the US into Canada. There are some that were never sold here and as such are apparently not permitted. I think the article said MB was about the worst for odd or unusual versions and if one decided to buy an MB in the USA, one would be prudent to ensure it was importable. I don't think there is any issue with most newer domestic vehicles but some imports may be an issue. I talked with a fellow one time at a car show who had brought in a hotrod - don't recall exactly what but a 1930's thing that had a newer V8 etc and disc brakes. He had a devil of a time getting a safety certificate to have it licenced because it did not have original brakes. He argued that what it had was obviously much better than the original mechanical drum brakes but that apparently made no difference. He had to find out what the brakes were from and provide evidence that the hot rod did not weigh more etc. They also made him buy new discs because he was unable to satisfy them that the discs were of sufficient thickness. Odd, but true. Randy On 24/05/2012 11:32 AM, WILTON wrote: Do certain entry restrictions not apply to a car of/over a certain age? Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! - a European model never offered in this country very rare How long did you say it would take to get that part that prevents it from running, and how many did you say it would cost I guess in this day and age with internet and couriers etc, it is not insurmountable, but one has to think one will encounter issues of that nature. I also expect I would not be able to bring it into Canada if I did want it. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! -
You should have told her you know how to safe a nuke too, just in case that was necessary. --R On 5/24/12 1:39 PM, WILTON wrote: Very hard to reason with gov. bureaurocrats; NCDMV is best example I know. BTW, 'renewed my drivers license day before yesterday. I'd put my driving ability up against any the examiner has ridden with for a LONG time. 'Betcha she thought that, too, by the end of the road test. 'Bet I did the quickest, smoothest 3-point turn she's seen. After having been driving for 64 years and not ever thinking about what it's called, I may have hesitated a bit when she asked me to do a 3-point turn, but I taught my # 1 grandson to do it for his driving test about 4 years ago, and with no hesitation at all, slipped right into it. In just a few seconds, it was done. Before the road test, she couldn't seem to understand that I need the walker to be able to stand and walk safely , but have no problem whatsoever sitting and driving. 'Started to ask her during the backing test if she'd like to hook a trailer behind the car and let me show her how to back it using the mirrors; I didn't ask, though, for fear of sounding like a smart ass. (Yes, I really am a smart ass - 'just didn't wanta SOUND like one.) I was really too nervous and up tight during the test - not for any lack of confidence in my ability to drive - just the thought of having to prove to a bureaucrat that my using a walker has no bearing whatsoever on my ability to drive - or hear, see, think, look to the rear when backing, etc. BTW, again, I have a very keen sense of situational awareness; I'm very aware of what's going on around me - what other vehicles are nearby, etc., and I carry what I call a running fix - I know where I am at all times. I know they can perform magic in the movies, etc., but when a cop or stalker pulls right out behind the subject and is not noticed seems especially ridiculous to me. If somebody pulls in behind ME, I notice it immediately. If I pull out of my driveway, and another car from nearby pulls right in behind me, I know it immediately. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! -
'Always kept ALL of my nukes in SAFE mode; 'never really armed one, though practiced/simulated arming many times. They're to be armed only after receiving properly authenticated GO CODE from President and, even then, only over enemy territory. 'Better be glad I never got GO CODE and never took a nuke over enemy territory. 'Took many 500 and 750-pound HE's (conventional explosives) over enemy territory, though. BTW, that's bureaucrats; I do know how to spell it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! - You should have told her you know how to safe a nuke too, just in case that was necessary. --R On 5/24/12 1:39 PM, WILTON wrote: Very hard to reason with gov. bureaurocrats; NCDMV is best example I know. BTW, 'renewed my drivers license day before yesterday. I'd put my driving ability up against any the examiner has ridden with for a LONG time. 'Betcha she thought that, too, by the end of the road test. 'Bet I did the quickest, smoothest 3-point turn she's seen. After having been driving for 64 years and not ever thinking about what it's called, I may have hesitated a bit when she asked me to do a 3-point turn, but I taught my # 1 grandson to do it for his driving test about 4 years ago, and with no hesitation at all, slipped right into it. In just a few seconds, it was done. Before the road test, she couldn't seem to understand that I need the walker to be able to stand and walk safely , but have no problem whatsoever sitting and driving. 'Started to ask her during the backing test if she'd like to hook a trailer behind the car and let me show her how to back it using the mirrors; I didn't ask, though, for fear of sounding like a smart ass. (Yes, I really am a smart ass - 'just didn't wanta SOUND like one.) I was really too nervous and up tight during the test - not for any lack of confidence in my ability to drive - just the thought of having to prove to a bureaucrat that my using a walker has no bearing whatsoever on my ability to drive - or hear, see, think, look to the rear when backing, etc. BTW, again, I have a very keen sense of situational awareness; I'm very aware of what's going on around me - what other vehicles are nearby, etc., and I carry what I call a running fix - I know where I am at all times. I know they can perform magic in the movies, etc., but when a cop or stalker pulls right out behind the subject and is not noticed seems especially ridiculous to me. If somebody pulls in behind ME, I notice it immediately. If I pull out of my driveway, and another car from nearby pulls right in behind me, I know it immediately. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph
Drive it like you stole it - it won't catch fire like a Ford ;^) Don't be surprised if you end up putting out some black smoke here and there its just cleaning itself out. On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: You might also find they run even better. I am truly amazed by the improvement in my 115 300D. It was pretty sluggish when I got it compared to now. I have only driven it about 10 to 12K miles in the time I have had it but much of that has been fairly hard. I assume the previous owners had not really driven it hard and it must have been carboned up as now it is a tryly different car. I can recall feeling like I was abusing it when I was trying to maintain 60 mph on the highway. On this past Monday I was driving it 75 mph and it seemed to want to go faster. Randy On 24/05/2012 8:30 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Drive them hard and fast. No problemo. --R On 5/24/12 7:15 AM, Ralph Robertson wrote: Another thought about older MB's; 124's and 126's., I have an 84 300CD and a '87 300SDL, with fairly high mileage on both. Since I have owned them I have not driven them hard at all, barely ever hitting 75mph. Would it be bad for the engines to just start driving them faster and harder?? Should there be a breakin period, say driving a little faster gradually? Just wanting to do the best for these beauties. Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filters 91 300D
Hey Rusty, Thanks for that! Say, how about putting that on the website? ;-) Just playing - Thx agn Larry On 5/24/2012 1:16 PM, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Mann and Hengst are OEM for Mercedes. Bosch is made who knows where and Full is Chinese junk. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Larry Tl02tur...@comcast.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 12:50:18 To: mercedes@okiebenz.commercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Oil Filters 91 300D Howdy -- It's time for me to stock up on Oil Filters and I find Rusty has the following: Bosch$9 Hengst$10 Full$ 7 Mann$13 Has anyone had bad experiences with any of the above? Good experiences? I tried to find specs (like filter size) but did not find any. Should I assume they are equal? Assume the most expensive is the best filter? Comments? LarryT 91 300D 2.5T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph
BUT . . . . watch out for the cops! Randy On 24/05/2012 3:13 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Drive it like you stole it - it won't catch fire like a Ford ;^) Don't be surprised if you end up putting out some black smoke here and there its just cleaning itself out. On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: You might also find they run even better. I am truly amazed by the improvement in my 115 300D. It was pretty sluggish when I got it compared to now. I have only driven it about 10 to 12K miles in the time I have had it but much of that has been fairly hard. I assume the previous owners had not really driven it hard and it must have been carboned up as now it is a tryly different car. I can recall feeling like I was abusing it when I was trying to maintain 60 mph on the highway. On this past Monday I was driving it 75 mph and it seemed to want to go faster. Randy On 24/05/2012 8:30 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Drive them hard and fast. No problemo. --R On 5/24/12 7:15 AM, Ralph Robertson wrote: Another thought about older MB's; 124's and 126's., I have an 84 300CD and a '87 300SDL, with fairly high mileage on both. Since I have owned them I have not driven them hard at all, barely ever hitting 75mph. Would it be bad for the engines to just start driving them faster and harder?? Should there be a breakin period, say driving a little faster gradually? Just wanting to do the best for these beauties. Ralph '84 300CD '87 300SDL __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One bar pressure warm oil
Only on the first iteration aluminum blocks. Cast iron blocks (450) are not a problem, it's worst on the 380's. Peter On May 24, 2012, at 5:14 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: M117 engines can be a dangerous thing due to the potential for head bolt thread failure, which necessitates drilling out and installing threaded inserts (Helicoils) to fix. Part of this operation involves the use of a special MB jig, as the head bolt holes are not 90 degrees perpendicular to the surface of the block. Dan On May 23, 2012, at 10:06 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I am not knowing what running rich looks like, but will learn more about that. Compression was 140 all around but for two contiguous pistons with 130 and 120. That side also has very minor head gasket leak. PPI indy found all this and said the leak is a non issue at this point. The low compression is probably due to kruff on valve that solvents will remove. Indy says to just drive it and have fun. Rebuild or head work is more than the car is worth. He says this to everybody and seems to hate having people spend money fixing old cars. He is scheduled three days out and has all racks loaded. If I snag a cheap rebuild M117, that is cool with me. Or I wait, enjoy and when it goes downhill, I get him to rebuild. He does great work. clay On May 23, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Frederick Moir wrote: Running rich, did you say? Poor compression in two cyls? Gas dilution of the oel? My $0.2 worth. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One bar pressure warm oil Allan Streib wrote: First of all verify the gauge reading with a separate oil pressure gauge. Harbor Freight sells them. AFAIK for all Mercedes engines oil pressure gauge should be pegged above idle. If not it might be the pressure relieve valve or spring, or you might have worn main bearings. Is there an issue with filter stem o-rings like there is with the ON617? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One bar pressure warm oil
And yes, you can poke out the seal between the bypass filter and the full-flow filter in the cartridge, which will result in low oil pressure, although it's usually much lower than 1 bar at hot idle. peter On May 24, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Only on the first iteration aluminum blocks. Cast iron blocks (450) are not a problem, it's worst on the 380's. Peter On May 24, 2012, at 5:14 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: M117 engines can be a dangerous thing due to the potential for head bolt thread failure, which necessitates drilling out and installing threaded inserts (Helicoils) to fix. Part of this operation involves the use of a special MB jig, as the head bolt holes are not 90 degrees perpendicular to the surface of the block. Dan On May 23, 2012, at 10:06 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I am not knowing what running rich looks like, but will learn more about that. Compression was 140 all around but for two contiguous pistons with 130 and 120. That side also has very minor head gasket leak. PPI indy found all this and said the leak is a non issue at this point. The low compression is probably due to kruff on valve that solvents will remove. Indy says to just drive it and have fun. Rebuild or head work is more than the car is worth. He says this to everybody and seems to hate having people spend money fixing old cars. He is scheduled three days out and has all racks loaded. If I snag a cheap rebuild M117, that is cool with me. Or I wait, enjoy and when it goes downhill, I get him to rebuild. He does great work. clay On May 23, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Frederick Moir wrote: Running rich, did you say? Poor compression in two cyls? Gas dilution of the oel? My $0.2 worth. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One bar pressure warm oil Allan Streib wrote: First of all verify the gauge reading with a separate oil pressure gauge. Harbor Freight sells them. AFAIK for all Mercedes engines oil pressure gauge should be pegged above idle. If not it might be the pressure relieve valve or spring, or you might have worn main bearings. Is there an issue with filter stem o-rings like there is with the ON617? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filters 91 300D
Rusty sends me the Hengst, you've got my lab results. I don't think Hengst or Mann will let you down. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT gps phone tracking
Kid finally got a job and I am thinking about letting him have his car back in order to get back and forth to work. But I want to track where he is at to make sure he is not going places he is not supposed to go. Just did a google search and came up with this instamapper thing that is free. Anybody tried that? Any other ideas? Maybe I should put this on my wifes phone also. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! -
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Very hard to reason with gov. bureaurocrats; NCDMV is best example I know. BTW, 'renewed my drivers license day before yesterday. Congrats! Looking forward to seeing the new trunk lid during one of my next trips, let us know how that's progressing. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filters 91 300D
When I order filters from Rusty on the phone (and don't specify a brand) I've never gotten anything other than Hengst and Mann. Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net writes: Howdy -- It's time for me to stock up on Oil Filters and I find Rusty has the following: Bosch$9 Hengst$10 Full$ 7 Mann$13 Has anyone had bad experiences with any of the above? Good experiences? I tried to find specs (like filter size) but did not find any. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One bar pressure warm oil
Good to know. Thanks for the clarification. Dan Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Only on the first iteration aluminum blocks. Cast iron blocks (450) are not a problem, it's worst on the 380's. Peter On May 24, 2012, at 5:14 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: M117 engines can be a dangerous thing due to the potential for head bolt thread failure, which necessitates drilling out and installing threaded inserts (Helicoils) to fix. Part of this operation involves the use of a special MB jig, as the head bolt holes are not 90 degrees perpendicular to the surface of the block. Dan On May 23, 2012, at 10:06 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I am not knowing what running rich looks like, but will learn more about that. Compression was 140 all around but for two contiguous pistons with 130 and 120. That side also has very minor head gasket leak. PPI indy found all this and said the leak is a non issue at this point. The low compression is probably due to kruff on valve that solvents will remove. Indy says to just drive it and have fun. Rebuild or head work is more than the car is worth. He says this to everybody and seems to hate having people spend money fixing old cars. He is scheduled three days out and has all racks loaded. If I snag a cheap rebuild M117, that is cool with me. Or I wait, enjoy and when it goes downhill, I get him to rebuild. He does great work. clay On May 23, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Frederick Moir wrote: Running rich, did you say? Poor compression in two cyls? Gas dilution of the oel? My $0.2 worth. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] One bar pressure warm oil Allan Streib wrote: First of all verify the gauge reading with a separate oil pressure gauge. Harbor Freight sells them. AFAIK for all Mercedes engines oil pressure gauge should be pegged above idle. If not it might be the pressure relieve valve or spring, or you might have worn main bearings. Is there an issue with filter stem o-rings like there is with the ON617? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dreaded lower rear shock mount - 1983 300D
So the noise I have been ignoring for the last week thinking it was a broken exhaust hanger - turns out to be a busted out lower right shock mount in the rear. I have heard of discussion revolving around this, but neve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT gps phone tracking
if this is the kind of kid you need to keep track of, keep in mind that no matter which phone tracker you use, that it'll only tell you where his *phone* is,...:-* cheers! e On 24/May/12 18:10, Kaleb Striplin wrote: Kid finally got a job and I am thinking about letting him have his car back in order to get back and forth to work. But I want to track where he is at to make sure he is not going places he is not supposed to go. Just did a google search and came up with this instamapper thing that is free. Anybody tried that? Any other ideas? Maybe I should put this on my wifes phone also. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT gps phone tracking
First, get your amateur radio license - the technician will do, then mount one of these http://www.byonics.com/mt-aio in his car - you'll always know where the car is. That coupled with the cell phone tracker will give you a good idea of where the kid is -- On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:46 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: if this is the kind of kid you need to keep track of, keep in mind that no matter which phone tracker you use, that it'll only tell you where his *phone* is,...:-* cheers! e On 24/May/12 18:10, Kaleb Striplin wrote: Kid finally got a job and I am thinking about letting him have his car back in order to get back and forth to work. But I want to track where he is at to make sure he is not going places he is not supposed to go. Just did a google search and came up with this instamapper thing that is free. Anybody tried that? Any other ideas? Maybe I should put this on my wifes phone also. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filters 91 300D
Assume nothing - call Q. Yes, I saw that he has already answered, but stop wasting time on the web site and call him up. On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Howdy -- It's time for me to stock up on Oil Filters and I find Rusty has the following: Bosch$9 Hengst$10 Full$ 7 Mann$13 Has anyone had bad experiences with any of the above? Good experiences? I tried to find specs (like filter size) but did not find any. Should I assume they are equal? Assume the most expensive is the best filter? Comments? LarryT 91 300D 2.5T __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT gps phone tracking
How many kids could be separated from their phones? What's he going to do? Leave it at home and forward his calls/messages? On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:46 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: if this is the kind of kid you need to keep track of, keep in mind that no matter which phone tracker you use, that it'll only tell you where his *phone* is,...:-* cheers! e On 24/May/12 18:10, Kaleb Striplin wrote: Kid finally got a job and I am thinking about letting him have his car back in order to get back and forth to work. But I want to track where he is at to make sure he is not going places he is not supposed to go. Just did a google search and came up with this instamapper thing that is free. Anybody tried that? Any other ideas? Maybe I should put this on my wifes phone also. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT gps phone tracking
This one might be even easier to install in the car -- http://www.byonics.com/mt-rtg On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:53 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: First, get your amateur radio license - the technician will do, then mount one of these http://www.byonics.com/mt-aio in his car - you'll always know where the car is. That coupled with the cell phone tracker will give you a good idea of where the kid is -- On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:46 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: if this is the kind of kid you need to keep track of, keep in mind that no matter which phone tracker you use, that it'll only tell you where his *phone* is,...:-* cheers! e On 24/May/12 18:10, Kaleb Striplin wrote: Kid finally got a job and I am thinking about letting him have his car back in order to get back and forth to work. But I want to track where he is at to make sure he is not going places he is not supposed to go. Just did a google search and came up with this instamapper thing that is free. Anybody tried that? Any other ideas? Maybe I should put this on my wifes phone also. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! -
Almost finished; had to repair several bad places beneath the bad repaint coat. Kept finding 'em at different times as project progressed making me have to do stuff over and waiting for another can of paint each time (takes a week to get a can of paint). Thought I had it done several days ago, but I accidentally touched the wet paint in the middle of the lid with bottom of the can - had to do it over again. Maybe I've had enough practice now. Should be able to get it in place next week. Fingers crossed. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! - WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Very hard to reason with gov. bureaurocrats; NCDMV is best example I know. BTW, 'renewed my drivers license day before yesterday. Congrats! Looking forward to seeing the new trunk lid during one of my next trips, let us know how that's progressing. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dreaded lower rear shock mount - 1983 300D
You mean rear lower control arm? Yeah those rust. Had mine replaced couple years ago with used rust free. It was not a cheap repair. Sent from my iPhone On May 24, 2012, at 10:28 PM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: So the noise I have been ignoring for the last week thinking it was a broken exhaust hanger - turns out to be a busted out lower right shock mount in the rear. I have heard of discussion revolving around this, but neve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT gps phone tracking
Then, when and if you catch 'im at the wrong place, how ya gonna tell 'im without alienating 'imp for a long time afterward? Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT gps phone tracking First, get your amateur radio license - the technician will do, then mount one of these http://www.byonics.com/mt-aio in his car - you'll always know where the car is. That coupled with the cell phone tracker will give you a good idea of where the kid is -- On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:46 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: if this is the kind of kid you need to keep track of, keep in mind that no matter which phone tracker you use, that it'll only tell you where his *phone* is,...:-* cheers! e On 24/May/12 18:10, Kaleb Striplin wrote: Kid finally got a job and I am thinking about letting him have his car back in order to get back and forth to work. But I want to track where he is at to make sure he is not going places he is not supposed to go. Just did a google search and came up with this instamapper thing that is free. Anybody tried that? Any other ideas? Maybe I should put this on my wifes phone also. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! -
It's been a good exercise, anyway. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! - Almost finished; had to repair several bad places beneath the bad repaint coat. Kept finding 'em at different times as project progressed making me have to do stuff over and waiting for another can of paint each time (takes a week to get a can of paint). Thought I had it done several days ago, but I accidentally touched the wet paint in the middle of the lid with bottom of the can - had to do it over again. Maybe I've had enough practice now. Should be able to get it in place next week. Fingers crossed. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! - WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Very hard to reason with gov. bureaurocrats; NCDMV is best example I know. BTW, 'renewed my drivers license day before yesterday. Congrats! Looking forward to seeing the new trunk lid during one of my next trips, let us know how that's progressing. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT gps phone tracking
And it will be a LONG time before you get back into the house, much less the bedroom once Regina finds that program on her phone :-) On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:17 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Then, when and if you catch 'im at the wrong place, how ya gonna tell 'im without alienating 'imp for a long time afterward? Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT gps phone tracking First, get your amateur radio license - the technician will do, then mount one of these http://www.byonics.com/mt-aio in his car - you'll always know where the car is. That coupled with the cell phone tracker will give you a good idea of where the kid is -- On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:46 PM, ernest breakfield ernestb@backyardengineering.**org erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: if this is the kind of kid you need to keep track of, keep in mind that no matter which phone tracker you use, that it'll only tell you where his *phone* is,...:-* cheers! e On 24/May/12 18:10, Kaleb Striplin wrote: Kid finally got a job and I am thinking about letting him have his car back in order to get back and forth to work. But I want to track where he is at to make sure he is not going places he is not supposed to go. Just did a google search and came up with this instamapper thing that is free. Anybody tried that? Any other ideas? Maybe I should put this on my wifes phone also. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! -
On Thu, 24 May 2012 23:20:57 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: It's been a good exercise, anyway. I'm sure it will look fine. Keep up the good work, Wilton. Craig - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! - Almost finished; had to repair several bad places beneath the bad repaint coat. Kept finding 'em at different times as project progressed making me have to do stuff over and waiting for another can of paint each time (takes a week to get a can of paint). Thought I had it done several days ago, but I accidentally touched the wet paint in the middle of the lid with bottom of the can - had to do it over again. Maybe I've had enough practice now. Should be able to get it in place next week. Fingers crossed. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1989 W124 200D DIESEL 5 SPEED! - WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Very hard to reason with gov. bureaurocrats; NCDMV is best example I know. BTW, 'renewed my drivers license day before yesterday. Congrats! Looking forward to seeing the new trunk lid during one of my next trips, let us know how that's progressing. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 108 kmi '94 E420Oskar 123 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 265 kmi Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dreaded lower rear shock mount - 1983 300D
Check carefully, those lower control arms are known to rust out. Much worse on the W126, but given the age, something to look for. peter So the noise I have been ignoring for the last week thinking it was a broken exhaust hanger - turns out to be a busted out lower right shock mount in the rear. I have heard of discussion revolving around this, but neve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT gps phone tracking
APRS is a cute idea, but the person who holds the license needs to be at the Control Point, not his hid. cheers/73! e n6zes On 24/May/12 19:53, OK Don wrote: First, get your amateur radio license - the technician will do, then mount one of these http://www.byonics.com/mt-aio in his car - you'll always know where the car is. That coupled with the cell phone tracker will give you a good idea of where the kid is -- On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:46 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: if this is the kind of kid you need to keep track of, keep in mind that no matter which phone tracker you use, that it'll only tell you where his *phone* is,...:-* cheers! e On 24/May/12 18:10, Kaleb Striplin wrote: Kid finally got a job and I am thinking about letting him have his car back in order to get back and forth to work. But I want to track where he is at to make sure he is not going places he is not supposed to go. Just did a google search and came up with this instamapper thing that is free. Anybody tried that? Any other ideas? Maybe I should put this on my wifes phone also. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT gps phone tracking
oh, ye of short memories and little imagination,...;-) do you remember being a kid freshly of driving age? couldn't you think of anything more interesting to be close to than your phone? what would it take to get Little Johnny Do-good to lug your cell phone around to all the places you're supposed to be while you carried a disposable? cheers! e On 24/May/12 20:07, Brian Toscano wrote: How many kids could be separated from their phones? What's he going to do? Leave it at home and forward his calls/messages? On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:46 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: if this is the kind of kid you need to keep track of, keep in mind that no matter which phone tracker you use, that it'll only tell you where his *phone* is,...:-* cheers! e On 24/May/12 18:10, Kaleb Striplin wrote: Kid finally got a job and I am thinking about letting him have his car back in order to get back and forth to work. But I want to track where he is at to make sure he is not going places he is not supposed to go. Just did a google search and came up with this instamapper thing that is free. Anybody tried that? Any other ideas? Maybe I should put this on my wifes phone also. __**_ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] wish list 3u9ydyga
I am starting to look for this stuff: A good OM603 head or a good OM603 engine a decent, rust free 201 Diesel. 2.5 preferred, but I'd look at any. Newer is better Prefer one somewhere between KC and Nawlins to Mobile to St Looie, or one you might deliver Would consider Okieacres or Atlanta. Kaleb! Got anything? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT gps phone tracking
How old do you think I am ;^) On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:55 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: oh, ye of short memories and little imagination,...;-) do you remember being a kid freshly of driving age? couldn't you think of anything more interesting to be close to than your phone? what would it take to get Little Johnny Do-good to lug your cell phone around to all the places you're supposed to be while you carried a disposable? cheers! e On 24/May/12 20:07, Brian Toscano wrote: How many kids could be separated from their phones? What's he going to do? Leave it at home and forward his calls/messages? On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:46 PM, ernest breakfield ernestb@backyardengineering.**org erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: if this is the kind of kid you need to keep track of, keep in mind that no matter which phone tracker you use, that it'll only tell you where his *phone* is,...:-* cheers! e On 24/May/12 18:10, Kaleb Striplin wrote: Kid finally got a job and I am thinking about letting him have his car back in order to get back and forth to work. But I want to track where he is at to make sure he is not going places he is not supposed to go. Just did a google search and came up with this instamapper thing that is free. Anybody tried that? Any other ideas? Maybe I should put this on my wifes phone also. ___ __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
