Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Rick Knoble]

On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:35 PM, "Allan Streib"  wrote:

> No shortage of sunlight this summer.  I think we're now tied for
> all-time consecutive days without rain, going back to the 19th century


We are definitely in a drought. Between the very limited snowfall last winter 
and the lack of rain this spring and summer, food prices will be through the 
roof by next year. Buy a freezer and stock up now...

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh - algae woes

[Dieselhead]

Buy some extra filters and do the shock treatment of biobor.  I 
honestly don't think it is worth the effort that scott describes, 
although that will help get it cleaner sooner.


in my experience, the shock treatment,and running it will clean out 
the tank.  But you want to add the normal treatment of biocide at 
each refill for several tanks.





I had the same problem with my 82 300sd about 6 years ago.  It would start
out OK but after a few miles crap would build up on the in-tank fuel
strainer to the extent I couldn't maintain speed, especially uphill.  When
the tank got low, I painfully drained what would come out and removed the
in-tank strainer.  A vice-grips did the job of unscrewing it. Then I blasted
out the tank with my pressure washer working from above through the fuel
gauge hole.  After I was convinced the tank was as clean as it was going to
get, I sucked up the water I could reach with a shop vac and than ran the
shop van on "blow" for about 8 hours; the shop-vac hose blew in at the fuel
gauge hole and air exited the strainer hole below.  When all looked dry, I
put it back together with a new strainer.  All this was done with the car on
jack stands and tilted to get the strainer hole as low as possible.

Then I pressure-washed my concrete work pad that was covered with an amazing
layer of crud.

Bergsma's kit looks like good stuff. I did the job without the fancy tools
but I was younger then.

Supplemental: my problem was debris from refueling at a bad station.  I
normally add Biobor (biocide) at each refueling.  I get the stuff at West
Marine.

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 6:08 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] Uh oh - algae woes

My '78 240D has gotten slow, really slow, mega slow, slow even for a 240D.

A couple weeks ago I replaced the fuel filters and it got better for most of
a ride to RI. On the way back it was bad again. How bad? Like 3rd gear 50mph
on any kind of hill bad.

So today I figured I better look into it. Pulled the fuel sender, the tank
is pretty low so this seemed like a good place to start. YEECH! What is that
black $h!t coating the bottom 1/4 of the sender? This can't be good.
Got it apart and found a huge snot globule that explains why the low fuel
light never comes on.

When I say huge snot globule I mean it. At first I thought there was a wiper
pad at the bottom of the sender. Had to come in an look at pictures of a
clean one. I got the globule out and got the sender back together, at least
one thing is fixed.

I don't know if I want to attempt the tank strainer. Looks like if I do I
should probably buy the kit from Mercedes source but it also seems like if
the tank is as bad as this I should probably have it pulled out and steam
cleaned. I'll run it over to my local guy tomorrow and see what he'll charge
for this fun job. If the guy down the street will do it it'll save my Indy.
I think this is a job he'd prefer not to do.

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ceramic stovetop

[Allan Streib]

I agree with most of this.  We had one for about 5 years.  Never a
problem with it.  I will say that I think that using flat pans is really
important.  A crowned pan bottom is basically contacting a small portion
of the "burner" surface area.

All that said, I don't hate them, but I would probably never buy another
one.  I much prefer gas.

Allan

Dan Penoff  writes:

> We have had them on a number of cooktops and stoves over the years,
> and have been very pleased with them.
>
> The best part is that you don't had to worry about exposed burners and
> cleaning underneath them.
>
> They do require a different means of cleaning (scraping if you get
> really messy and using the special cleaner) but other than that they
> are pretty much hassle free.
>
> I have never broken one, but I suspect you could if you hit it hard
> enough.  I have dropped pots and pans on them accidentally and not
> done any damage.
>
> You have to have cookware that is flat bottomed, that is, it needs to
> be good and flat - you'll know if you have a skillet or pan that is
> crowned.  It will still work, but it's not as efficient.  We have
> always used hard anodized professional cookware, the bulk of which is
> Magnalite, but you can use just about any kind of cookware you like.
>
> People used to complain that you couldn't control the heat as well (as
> a gas stove) with these cooktops, but that's simply not true.  We
> currently have a Maytag range with a ceramic cooktop, and I can simmer
> as low as you want, not to mention that it even has a warming area in
> the center, too.
>
> Given the choice, I would stick with ceramic cooktops.
>
> Dan
>

-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] Bosch IP Durability

[Allan Streib]

Designed for high-sulfur off-road diesel, and not liking ULSD?

Just a guess.

Allan

"Scott Ritchey"  writes:

> Ladies and Gents: 
>
>  
>
> I'm looking for your experiences and opinions WRT Bosch Diesel injection
> pumps.  My recollection is that they were near bullet-proof but maybe my
> memory deceives me.
>
>  
>
> Among other things, I own a Kioti (Daedong of Korea) tractor and subscribe
> to tractor list (tractorbynet.com) with a Kioti section.  The Kioti IP is
> made by Bosch and it is similar to our Mercedes Diesel pumps except the IP
> camshaft is inside the engine block and gear driven, like a mini valve
> camshaft.  The Kioti IP bolts in place over this camshaft so it is much like
> the top half of our pumps. Another difference is the Kioti fuel shutoff,
> which uses an electrical solenoid vs vacuum like MBZ.
>
>  
>
> Now, lately, several Kioti owners have reported IP failures.  Here's a post
> showing damage to the gear and rack teeth after one of these failures:
>
> http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/225273-injector-pump-failure.html.
>   
>
> A new IP costs over $1K and rebuilds aren't available to this is a high
> interest item for many Kioti owners.
>
>  
>
> These failures seem to occur with pretty low hours on the motor, like less
> than 1000 hours on tractors ma.
>
>  
>
> So here's what I'd like to know:
>
> 1.  Were our old Bosch IPs really as robust as I recall (I can't recall any
> reports of similar failures).
>
> 2.  What's going on here?  Has the quality of Bosch products really gone
> south?  Is this just a bad batch of parts?
>
>  
>
> Thanks 
>
> Scott
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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Allan Streib]

No shortage of sunlight this summer.  I think we're now tied for
all-time consecutive days without rain, going back to the 19th century
or whenever accurate records were first kept.

Winters can be dreary, but Indiana has four distinct seasons, none of
which really dominate, so that offers nice variety.  If you hate the
coldest part of winter, or the hottest part of summer, it's only about
three months.  

To each his own I guess.

Allan

Dan Penoff  writes:

> Exactly.
>
> That is the one thing that literally made me crazy when I moved back up there 
> in 2008 from Florida. I had absolutely no idea how much the lack of sunlight 
> would affect me.
>
> Hard to imagine it didn't affect me growing up, but as you say, if you don't 
> know any different
>
> We had nearly a week of little to no sunlight recently when TS Debby went 
> through. It was noticeable after a few days, sort of like, "Hey, what's going 
> on?"
>
> I love Wisconsin where we used to live, and I miss the huge house we had in 
> Indy, but there is no way I could ever return to either place on a long term 
> basis.
>
> Dan
>
> On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Rich Thomas 
>  wrote:
>
>> Yeah, there's that too.  When I was at Purdue, one winter we went 26 days 
>> without seeing the sun.  THAT was depressing, not to mention the cold.  It 
>> got to be a contest to see how long it would last. But, I did not know any 
>> better, but like you have learned!
>> 
>> ---R
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/16/12 10:21 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
>>> I have become somewhat jaded, as I have found I can't live without regular 
>>> exposure to the sun, which is not an attribute of the northern climes.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] glass cooktop

[RELNGSON]

> ...Someone give me review of ceramic stovetop. Do they last? Are they 
> problem-prone? Does the glass break often? Can they be repaired?
> thx..
> 
Which? Glass or ceramic? 

I have a GE black glass cooktop with center downdraft exhaust. Similar to 
Jenn-Air but less expensive and superior in design. Fast heating and has 
warning lights for each element when warm. Requires polish to reduce surface 
scratches and cooked on spills are removed by razor blade. Far easier to keep 
clean that a conventional cooktop with exposed burners. Looks good, too. Not 
exactly cheap.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ceramic stovetop

[Dan Penoff]

Early ones were problematic, but for some years now they have become far 
faster. One of the burners on my current cooktop even has a "fast heat" setting 
that can bring pot of water to boil as quick or quicker than a gas cooktop (I 
have a gas stove on the lanai to compare with. The former owners were Indian 
and had it set up to do their cooking outside.)

Dan

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On Jul 16, 2012, at 9:34 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

>> People used to complain that you couldn't control the heat as well
> 
> We _hated_ ours, and couldn't wait to replace it.  The thermal
> lag was extreme, far worse than a regular electric coil stove,
> which was its replacement.  But it was an early one.
> 
> I now dry parts in its oven, out in the garage.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ceramic stovetop

[OK Don]

We have a Maytag glass top range with double ovens. Bought it 5 or 6 years
ago. My wife loves it so much that I had to pull out the gas range and move
the Maytag to the new house.
Yes, the burners are slow to heat, and slow to cool, but work just fine
once you get used to it. No instant gratification, but a solid performer.
Bottom line - different strokes for different folks.

On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> We've got one, I hate it for all the reasons I hate electric, Dan is
> completely wrong. ;)
>
> Seriously, as soon as this one quits I'll switch to gas. If I get a good
> deal on a gas range in the meantime I'll switch to gas. You just cannot
> compare the slow heating/slow cooling of an electric to a good gas range.
> That said there are so many poor gas ranges I'd guess people that prefer
> electric have never used a good one. I'm partial to a completely
> non-electric unit so when the power goes out cooking is unaffected. We have
> one in our camp though its a 30" model. I'd like to have a 36" version for
> here.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 20:59:59 -0400
> From: Dan Penoff 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Ceramic stovetop
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> We have had them on a number of cooktops and stoves over the years, and
> have been very pleased with them.
>
> The best part is that you don't had to worry about exposed burners and
> cleaning underneath them.
>
> They do require a different means of cleaning (scraping if you get really
> messy and using the special cleaner) but other than that they are pretty
> much hassle free.
>
> I have never broken one, but I suspect you could if you hit it hard
> enough.  I have dropped pots and pans on them accidentally and  not done
> any damage.
>
> You have to have cookware that is flat bottomed, that is, it needs to be
> good and flat - you'll know if you have a skillet or pan that is crowned.
>  It will still work, but it's not as efficient.  We have always used hard
> anodized professional cookware, the bulk of which is Magnalite, but you can
> use just about any kind of cookware you like.
>
> People used to complain that you couldn't control the heat as well (as a
> gas stove) with these cooktops, but that's simply not true.  We currently
> have a Maytag range with a ceramic cooktop, and I can simmer as low as you
> want, not to mention that it even has a warming area in the center, too.
>
> Given the choice, I would stick with ceramic cooktops.
>
> Dan
>
> On Jul 16, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
>
> > Someone give me review of ceramic stovetop.
> > Do they last?
> > Are they problem-prone?
> > Does the glass break often?
> > Can they be repaired?
> > thx
> > mao
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ceramic stovetop

[Craig]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
 wrote:

> I'm partial to a completely non-electric unit so when the power goes
> out cooking is unaffected.

You can always use one of those spring/piezoelectric sparkers that people
use on gas grills.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ceramic stovetop

[Curt Raymond]

We've got one, I hate it for all the reasons I hate electric, Dan is completely 
wrong. ;)

Seriously, as soon as this one quits I'll switch to gas. If I get a good deal 
on a gas range in the meantime I'll switch to gas. You just cannot compare the 
slow heating/slow cooling of an electric to a good gas range. That said there 
are so many poor gas ranges I'd guess people that prefer electric have never 
used a good one. I'm partial to a completely non-electric unit so when the 
power goes out cooking is unaffected. We have one in our camp though its a 30" 
model. I'd like to have a 36" version for here.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 20:59:59 -0400
From: Dan Penoff 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Ceramic stovetop
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

We have had them on a number of cooktops and stoves over the years, and have 
been very pleased with them.

The best part is that you don't had to worry about exposed burners and cleaning 
underneath them.

They do require a different means of cleaning (scraping if you get really messy 
and using the special cleaner) but other than that they are pretty much hassle 
free.

I have never broken one, but I suspect you could if you hit it hard enough.  I 
have dropped pots and pans on them accidentally and  not done any damage.

You have to have cookware that is flat bottomed, that is, it needs to be good 
and flat - you'll know if you have a skillet or pan that is crowned.  It will 
still work, but it's not as efficient.  We have always used hard anodized 
professional cookware, the bulk of which is Magnalite, but you can use just 
about any kind of cookware you like.

People used to complain that you couldn't control the heat as well (as a gas 
stove) with these cooktops, but that's simply not true.  We currently have a 
Maytag range with a ceramic cooktop, and I can simmer as low as you want, not 
to mention that it even has a warming area in the center, too.

Given the choice, I would stick with ceramic cooktops.

Dan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

> Someone give me review of ceramic stovetop.
> Do they last?
> Are they problem-prone?
> Does the glass break often?
> Can they be repaired?
> thx
> mao

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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh - algae woes

[Curt Raymond]

My local Car Quest has some kind of algecide that I looked at the other day, 
$30 for 16oz. Says I need 1/2 oz to maintain, 2oz (per 20 gal I think)  to 
"shock" and kill the bugs.
I figure killing the bugs at this point is a waste of time, I could remove them 
a little at a time forever...
I'll buy a bottle of the stuff and dose everybody afterward but I've never in 
the last 9 years of driving an MB diesel full time had algae troubles. Normally 
I say thats because I drive a lot but this car sat some before I got it.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:40:05 -0400
From: "Scott Ritchey" 
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Uh oh - algae woes
Message-ID: <26BF6691E32E42D38321F11C3F71183C@ScottPC>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"

I had the same problem with my 82 300sd about 6 years ago.  It would start
out OK but after a few miles crap would build up on the in-tank fuel
strainer to the extent I couldn't maintain speed, especially uphill.  When
the tank got low, I painfully drained what would come out and removed the
in-tank strainer.  A vice-grips did the job of unscrewing it. Then I blasted
out the tank with my pressure washer working from above through the fuel
gauge hole.  After I was convinced the tank was as clean as it was going to
get, I sucked up the water I could reach with a shop vac and than ran the
shop van on "blow" for about 8 hours; the shop-vac hose blew in at the fuel
gauge hole and air exited the strainer hole below.  When all looked dry, I
put it back together with a new strainer.  All this was done with the car on
jack stands and tilted to get the strainer hole as low as possible.

Then I pressure-washed my concrete work pad that was covered with an amazing
layer of crud.

Bergsma's kit looks like good stuff. I did the job without the fancy tools
but I was younger then.

Supplemental: my problem was debris from refueling at a bad station.  I
normally add Biobor (biocide) at each refueling.  I get the stuff at West
Marine.

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Re: [MBZ] fording

[Curt Raymond]

Apparently. That was before I sold the car. Then I bought it back and put 
another 25,000 miles on it.
I did put in an axle at one point. I don't recall if it was before or after the 
fording incident. I do recall changing the diff fluid after I bought it back 
and didn't find anything untoward.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:07:05 -0400 (EDT)
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

> ...Anyway I forgot how I knew how much water I was in, I asked the guy in 
> the truck! He said the water was up to the tops of the tires on the 240D. 
> So I'm a little off, don't ruin a good story ;)
> I figured as long as I didn't get water up to the top of the hood where 
> the air intake is I'd be okay...
> 
So neither the differential or transmission is vented and the cv joint 
boots were watertight?

RLE

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[MBZ] Rim sizes

[Fmiser]

I discovered I have two different sizes - or at least offsets -
of bundt rims among my W123s.

I have shuffled the wheels around enough I have no idea which
rims arrived with which car.

Anyway, I was using my laser level to tweak the front wheel
toe-in adjustment and was appalled at how far off it was!  I
then noticed that my level, resting on the rim, was running
into the center cap on the one wheel, but not on the other.

See the PDF called "w123-toein-alignment_howto" at
http://www.host-a.net/u/fmiser   for details.

Digging deeper, I found the distance from the mount flange to
the center cap is the same - but the distance from the flange
to the tire bead seat is not.  The difference is about 0.25
inches, or 7 mm.

I haven't tried to do an accurate measurement of the rim width
yet so I don't know if it's offset or width that's different.
Or both.

But my toe-in error was from a "tall" rim on the front, and an
"short" one on the back.  Since I was using the laser to align
from the front rim to the back rim I was getting a 1/2 inch
shift in addition to the mis-alignment.  Now I know to watch for
it. 

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Modern cars in the rain

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Well, I did manage a picture:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/7587262716/in/photostream

Thanks!

On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

> Actually, if it were longer and had some pics then I think it would
> definitely be suitable for publication:)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Max Dillon 
> wrote:
>
> Dare you to submit for publication in The Star
>
> Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
>
> About an hour ago we were traveling south on the Merit Parkway.  It was
> heavily raining.  I had the wipers set to the first automatic setting
>
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '95 E300, '87 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Bosch IP Durability

[Jim Cathey]

My recollection is that they were near bullet-proof but maybe my
memory deceives me.


It does not.  Extremely reliable.

But, like the Navistar diesel engine that Ford used,
which wasn't quite the same design as what Navistar
intended, perhaps it has been messed with?

(Ford dicked with it, and lemonized it.  The 'same' engine, in
Navistar trim, was just fine.)

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Bosch IP Durability

[Jim Cathey]

Can't say who makes it but it says Bosch right on it.


You sure that's an "s", and not a "t"?  :-)

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ceramic stovetop

[Jim Cathey]

People used to complain that you couldn't control the heat as well


We _hated_ ours, and couldn't wait to replace it.  The thermal
lag was extreme, far worse than a regular electric coil stove,
which was its replacement.  But it was an early one.

I now dry parts in its oven, out in the garage.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ceramic stovetop

[Scott Ritchey]

Had one for two years in the 80s. Agree with all Dan said.  Also, you
couldn't tell by looking if a burner was hot, or not, if that matters to
you.  Invisible traces of food, etc., will turn brown when hot and we found
the special cleaning stuff was required to restore the new appearance.

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Penoff
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 9:00 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Ceramic stovetop

We have had them on a number of cooktops and stoves over the years, and have
been very pleased with them.

The best part is that you don't had to worry about exposed burners and
cleaning underneath them.

They do require a different means of cleaning (scraping if you get really
messy and using the special cleaner) but other than that they are pretty
much hassle free.

I have never broken one, but I suspect you could if you hit it hard enough.
I have dropped pots and pans on them accidentally and  not done any damage.

You have to have cookware that is flat bottomed, that is, it needs to be
good and flat - you'll know if you have a skillet or pan that is crowned.
It will still work, but it's not as efficient.  We have always used hard
anodized professional cookware, the bulk of which is Magnalite, but you can
use just about any kind of cookware you like.

People used to complain that you couldn't control the heat as well (as a gas
stove) with these cooktops, but that's simply not true.  We currently have a
Maytag range with a ceramic cooktop, and I can simmer as low as you want,
not to mention that it even has a warming area in the center, too.

Given the choice, I would stick with ceramic cooktops.

Dan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

> Someone give me review of ceramic stovetop.
> Do they last?
> Are they problem-prone?
> Does the glass break often?
> Can they be repaired?
> thx
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Bosch IP Durability

[Meade M. Dillon]

Yes, the Bosch injection pumps on our beloved cars generally out-last the rest 
if the car.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ceramic stovetop

[Fmiser]

> Mountain Man wrote:

> Someone give me review of ceramic stovetop.
> Do they last?

My folks had one.  It lasted a lot of years - till someone
didn't get the heat turned down after the boiling started and it
cracked.

> Are they problem-prone?

It's a very flat surface, and so most pans are going to have
only a couple points actually in contact.

Cleaning is relatively easy because it is all one, big flat
surface.  A little scouring powder and it's all shine clean
again.

> Does the glass break often?
> Can they be repaired?

I don't think it's repairable.  Likely replaceable - if you can
find the parts.

I much prefer flame.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ceramic stovetop

[Dan Penoff]

We have had them on a number of cooktops and stoves over the years, and have 
been very pleased with them.

The best part is that you don't had to worry about exposed burners and cleaning 
underneath them.

They do require a different means of cleaning (scraping if you get really messy 
and using the special cleaner) but other than that they are pretty much hassle 
free.

I have never broken one, but I suspect you could if you hit it hard enough.  I 
have dropped pots and pans on them accidentally and  not done any damage.

You have to have cookware that is flat bottomed, that is, it needs to be good 
and flat - you'll know if you have a skillet or pan that is crowned.  It will 
still work, but it's not as efficient.  We have always used hard anodized 
professional cookware, the bulk of which is Magnalite, but you can use just 
about any kind of cookware you like.

People used to complain that you couldn't control the heat as well (as a gas 
stove) with these cooktops, but that's simply not true.  We currently have a 
Maytag range with a ceramic cooktop, and I can simmer as low as you want, not 
to mention that it even has a warming area in the center, too.

Given the choice, I would stick with ceramic cooktops.

Dan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

> Someone give me review of ceramic stovetop.
> Do they last?
> Are they problem-prone?
> Does the glass break often?
> Can they be repaired?
> thx
> mao
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[MBZ] OT - Ceramic stovetop

[Mountain Man]

Someone give me review of ceramic stovetop.
Do they last?
Are they problem-prone?
Does the glass break often?
Can they be repaired?
thx
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Uh oh - algae woes

[Scott Ritchey]

I had the same problem with my 82 300sd about 6 years ago.  It would start
out OK but after a few miles crap would build up on the in-tank fuel
strainer to the extent I couldn't maintain speed, especially uphill.  When
the tank got low, I painfully drained what would come out and removed the
in-tank strainer.  A vice-grips did the job of unscrewing it. Then I blasted
out the tank with my pressure washer working from above through the fuel
gauge hole.  After I was convinced the tank was as clean as it was going to
get, I sucked up the water I could reach with a shop vac and than ran the
shop van on "blow" for about 8 hours; the shop-vac hose blew in at the fuel
gauge hole and air exited the strainer hole below.  When all looked dry, I
put it back together with a new strainer.  All this was done with the car on
jack stands and tilted to get the strainer hole as low as possible.

Then I pressure-washed my concrete work pad that was covered with an amazing
layer of crud.

Bergsma's kit looks like good stuff. I did the job without the fancy tools
but I was younger then.

Supplemental: my problem was debris from refueling at a bad station.  I
normally add Biobor (biocide) at each refueling.  I get the stuff at West
Marine.

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On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 6:08 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] Uh oh - algae woes

My '78 240D has gotten slow, really slow, mega slow, slow even for a 240D.

A couple weeks ago I replaced the fuel filters and it got better for most of
a ride to RI. On the way back it was bad again. How bad? Like 3rd gear 50mph
on any kind of hill bad.

So today I figured I better look into it. Pulled the fuel sender, the tank
is pretty low so this seemed like a good place to start. YEECH! What is that
black $h!t coating the bottom 1/4 of the sender? This can't be good.
Got it apart and found a huge snot globule that explains why the low fuel
light never comes on.

When I say huge snot globule I mean it. At first I thought there was a wiper
pad at the bottom of the sender. Had to come in an look at pictures of a
clean one. I got the globule out and got the sender back together, at least
one thing is fixed.

I don't know if I want to attempt the tank strainer. Looks like if I do I
should probably buy the kit from Mercedes source but it also seems like if
the tank is as bad as this I should probably have it pulled out and steam
cleaned. I'll run it over to my local guy tomorrow and see what he'll charge
for this fun job. If the guy down the street will do it it'll save my Indy.
I think this is a job he'd prefer not to do.

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Bosch IP Durability

[Scott Ritchey]

Can't say who makes it but it says Bosch right on it.

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On Behalf Of Dan Penoff
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bosch IP Durability

Are you sure it is a "true" Bosch pump, or is it being produced by the
tractor mfg. under license?

I ask because Cummins used to do this in India, and while the product looked
identical, there was a noticeable difference in quality and durability.

Dan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 4:59 PM, "Scott Ritchey"  wrote:

> Ladies and Gents: 
> 
> 
> 
> I'm looking for your experiences and opinions WRT Bosch Diesel injection
> pumps.  My recollection is that they were near bullet-proof but maybe my
> memory deceives me.
> 
> 
> 
> Among other things, I own a Kioti (Daedong of Korea) tractor and subscribe
> to tractor list (tractorbynet.com) with a Kioti section.  The Kioti IP is
> made by Bosch and it is similar to our Mercedes Diesel pumps except the IP
> camshaft is inside the engine block and gear driven, like a mini valve
> camshaft.  The Kioti IP bolts in place over this camshaft so it is much
like
> the top half of our pumps. Another difference is the Kioti fuel shutoff,
> which uses an electrical solenoid vs vacuum like MBZ.
> 
> 
> 
> Now, lately, several Kioti owners have reported IP failures.  Here's a
post
> showing damage to the gear and rack teeth after one of these failures:
> 
>
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/225273-injector-pu
> mp-failure.html.  
> 
> A new IP costs over $1K and rebuilds aren't available to this is a high
> interest item for many Kioti owners.
> 
> 
> 
> These failures seem to occur with pretty low hours on the motor, like less
> than 1000 hours on tractors ma.
> 
> 
> 
> So here's what I'd like to know:
> 
> 1.  Were our old Bosch IPs really as robust as I recall (I can't recall
any
> reports of similar failures).
> 
> 2.  What's going on here?  Has the quality of Bosch products really gone
> south?  Is this just a bad batch of parts?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Scott
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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Scott Ritchey]

We had winter snowbirds in FL (Ft Walton Beach/Destin area).  One of then
explained to me that it was cheaper to vacation in FL than to heat their
home during the Canadian winter.

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On Behalf Of Dan Penoff
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 5:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

They call them "snowbirds" down here.

Of course that applies to anyone who is a partial year resident, including
all of the Canucks.

Dan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 4:59 PM, "Scott Ritchey"  wrote:

> While visiting the Tartan museum in Franklin NC, I learned about
> "halfbacks".  Those are Yankees who moved to Florida but later decided to
> move half-way back. 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Dan Penoff
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 12:50 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor
> 
> When I returned to Indy in 2008 I was surprised that the outdoor cold
never
> really bothered me. However, I could never seem to get warm when inside.
> Weird.
> 
> I love the change of seasons, and enjoy  the rare overcast day down here,
> but the pervasive gray overcast of winter was something I have no desire
to
> experience again.
> 
> If I could winter in Florida and spend summer and especially fall up north
> it would be perfect.
> 
> Dan 
> 
> On Jul 16, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
>> I spend at couple days in November in Johnstown, PA (near Altoona, home
of
> the famous horseshoe curve) a couple years ago. It snowed the whole time I
> was there. When I asked the guys at the TV station where I was working
when
> the snow would stop they said "April".
>> 
>> Personally I don't mind the cold but I guess after a couple days its nice
> to see the sun. I don't stop going outside just because its snowy
though...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] fording

[Randy Bennell]

On 16/07/2012 4:07 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

...Anyway I forgot how I knew how much water I was in, I asked the guy in
the truck! He said the water was up to the tops of the tires on the 240D.
So I'm a little off, don't ruin a good story ;)
I figured as long as I didn't get water up to the top of the hood where
the air intake is I'd be okay...


So neither the differential or transmission is vented and the cv joint
boots were watertight?

RLE





Obviously things one would need to check after fording the stream.
We have had vehicles flood while parked on the street in front of our 
home when it has rained very hard.
The first was my wife's Taurus and the last was her Avalon. We learned 
to move the cars when heavy  rain  is predicted and the river is high. 
The storm sewers do not drain well when the river is high. They close 
the gravity drains and use pumps and the pumps cannot keep up and 
sometimes the power goes off etc.
The insurance company spent about $3500 to put new carpet in the Avalon. 
The carpet got wet but not the seats etc. or they likely would have 
written it off.


The Taurus dried out ok. Did not have a mouldy smell later.
None of these appeared to ingest any water into engines or other 
driveline parts.
My neighbor lost a Toyota Corolla that same night. IT got wet inside and 
when he started it up, it shorted out the electrical system. The engine 
computer is located low on the passeenger side nad it got wet. Was a 
relatively new car and they wrote it off.


The old LTD that my son was driving did. It flooded the same night as 
the Avalon. The interior got wet and it smelled a bit for a while but it 
was not worth doing much about. Tom just drove it and over time it dried 
out and the smell went away.
However, shortly after the car got wet, it blew a pink milkshake out of 
the transmission. He called me to the local McDonald's parking lot and 
we drove it accross the street to a tranny shop and had them replace the 
transmission fluid and the diff oil.
Did not cause any problems after. Just cost a bit to have it done right 
away.
Another neighbor had a Honda Civic flood that night. They were away in 
Belgium and the car sat there full of water for the better part of a 
month before they returned. The water was up over the seat bases to 
start with and leaked down to the point where only the foot wells were 
full of water but there would not have been much salvagable apart from 
sheet metal on that one I would think.


We live on a dead end street with a circle at the end. It is truly 
amazing how much of a slope there is on the street. Looking at it when 
it is dry, one would think is is basically level but when the rains 
come, it is obvious that it is not. The circle is high and dry and by 
the time one gets to the corner about 150 to 180 feet south, the water 
can be 2 to 3 feet deep.


Randy

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[MBZ] Uh oh - algae woes

[Curt Raymond]

My '78 240D has gotten slow, really slow, mega slow, slow even for a 240D.

A couple weeks ago I replaced the fuel filters and it got better for most of a 
ride to RI. On the way back it was bad again. How bad? Like 3rd gear 50mph on 
any kind of hill bad.

So today I figured I better look into it. Pulled the fuel sender, the tank is 
pretty low so this seemed like a good place to start. YEECH! What is that black 
$h!t coating the bottom 1/4 of the sender? This can't be good.
Got it apart and found a huge snot globule that explains why the low fuel light 
never comes on.

When I say huge snot globule I mean it. At first I thought there was a wiper 
pad at the bottom of the sender. Had to come in an look at pictures of a clean 
one. I got the globule out and got the sender back together, at least one thing 
is fixed.

I don't know if I want to attempt the tank strainer. Looks like if I do I 
should probably buy the kit from Mercedes source but it also seems like if the 
tank is as bad as this I should probably have it pulled out and steam cleaned. 
I'll run it over to my local guy tomorrow and see what he'll charge for this 
fun job. If the guy down the street will do it it'll save my Indy. I think this 
is a job he'd prefer not to do.

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Randy Bennell]

I have no idea if this remains true but I knew an old fellow back  in 
the 60's who spent his summers in Canada and his winters in Arkansas. He 
said it was far enough south to avoid the cold weather but not a 
destination for most folks and as a result,  a very inexpensive place to 
winter. I think he was relatively poor - probably lived on basic 
pensions. He had a 1957 Chevy sedan and a small house trailer that he 
pulled behind it. That was what he lived in year round.


Randy

On 16/07/2012 3:59 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:

While visiting the Tartan museum in Franklin NC, I learned about
"halfbacks".  Those are Yankees who moved to Florida but later decided to
move half-way back.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Dan Penoff
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 12:50 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

When I returned to Indy in 2008 I was surprised that the outdoor cold never
really bothered me. However, I could never seem to get warm when inside.
Weird.

I love the change of seasons, and enjoy  the rare overcast day down here,
but the pervasive gray overcast of winter was something I have no desire to
experience again.

If I could winter in Florida and spend summer and especially fall up north
it would be perfect.

Dan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:


I spend at couple days in November in Johnstown, PA (near Altoona, home of

the famous horseshoe curve) a couple years ago. It snowed the whole time I
was there. When I asked the guys at the TV station where I was working when
the snow would stop they said "April".

Personally I don't mind the cold but I guess after a couple days its nice

to see the sun. I don't stop going outside just because its snowy though...

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Randy Bennell]

A client who bought a condo in AZ this past winter says they also have 
folks down there called "summer chickens". Apparently, the well to do 
locals abandon AZ in the summer and go someplace cooler.


Randy

On 16/07/2012 4:05 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

They call them "snowbirds" down here.

Of course that applies to anyone who is a partial year resident, including all 
of the Canucks.

Dan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 4:59 PM, "Scott Ritchey"  wrote:


While visiting the Tartan museum in Franklin NC, I learned about
"halfbacks".  Those are Yankees who moved to Florida but later decided to
move half-way back.

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Penoff
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 12:50 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

When I returned to Indy in 2008 I was surprised that the outdoor cold never
really bothered me. However, I could never seem to get warm when inside.
Weird.

I love the change of seasons, and enjoy  the rare overcast day down here,
but the pervasive gray overcast of winter was something I have no desire to
experience again.

If I could winter in Florida and spend summer and especially fall up north
it would be perfect.

Dan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:


I spend at couple days in November in Johnstown, PA (near Altoona, home of

the famous horseshoe curve) a couple years ago. It snowed the whole time I
was there. When I asked the guys at the TV station where I was working when
the snow would stop they said "April".

Personally I don't mind the cold but I guess after a couple days its nice

to see the sun. I don't stop going outside just because its snowy though...

-Curt






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Re: [MBZ] Bosch IP Durability

[Dan Penoff]

Are you sure it is a "true" Bosch pump, or is it being produced by the tractor 
mfg. under license?

I ask because Cummins used to do this in India, and while the product looked 
identical, there was a noticeable difference in quality and durability.

Dan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 4:59 PM, "Scott Ritchey"  wrote:

> Ladies and Gents: 
> 
> 
> 
> I'm looking for your experiences and opinions WRT Bosch Diesel injection
> pumps.  My recollection is that they were near bullet-proof but maybe my
> memory deceives me.
> 
> 
> 
> Among other things, I own a Kioti (Daedong of Korea) tractor and subscribe
> to tractor list (tractorbynet.com) with a Kioti section.  The Kioti IP is
> made by Bosch and it is similar to our Mercedes Diesel pumps except the IP
> camshaft is inside the engine block and gear driven, like a mini valve
> camshaft.  The Kioti IP bolts in place over this camshaft so it is much like
> the top half of our pumps. Another difference is the Kioti fuel shutoff,
> which uses an electrical solenoid vs vacuum like MBZ.
> 
> 
> 
> Now, lately, several Kioti owners have reported IP failures.  Here's a post
> showing damage to the gear and rack teeth after one of these failures:
> 
> http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/225273-injector-pu
> mp-failure.html.  
> 
> A new IP costs over $1K and rebuilds aren't available to this is a high
> interest item for many Kioti owners.
> 
> 
> 
> These failures seem to occur with pretty low hours on the motor, like less
> than 1000 hours on tractors ma.
> 
> 
> 
> So here's what I'd like to know:
> 
> 1.  Were our old Bosch IPs really as robust as I recall (I can't recall any
> reports of similar failures).
> 
> 2.  What's going on here?  Has the quality of Bosch products really gone
> south?  Is this just a bad batch of parts?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Scott
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Re: [MBZ] fording

[RELNGSON]

> ...Anyway I forgot how I knew how much water I was in, I asked the guy in 
> the truck! He said the water was up to the tops of the tires on the 240D. 
> So I'm a little off, don't ruin a good story ;)
> I figured as long as I didn't get water up to the top of the hood where 
> the air intake is I'd be okay...
> 
So neither the differential or transmission is vented and the cv joint 
boots were watertight?

RLE
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Komblinstrument addendum

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

No clue

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 16, 2012, at 4:04 PM, "G. M. Brown"  wrote:

> 
> More details about these wire with the tag "Komblinstrument" in my '84 300D: 
> there are two blue with yellow stripe wires attached to a shielded female 
> spade lug (Note: this is hot) and there's a brown wire (gnd.) attached to an 
> unshielded female spade lug.  Anybody got a clue as to what these wires are 
> for considering the followup information.  I looked all through my MB 300D 
> Electrical Troubleshooting manual and there aren't any BU/YL wires listed in 
> any of the schematics.  TIA.
> 
> G. M. Brown
> Brevard, NC  
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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Dan Penoff]

They call them "snowbirds" down here.

Of course that applies to anyone who is a partial year resident, including all 
of the Canucks.

Dan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 4:59 PM, "Scott Ritchey"  wrote:

> While visiting the Tartan museum in Franklin NC, I learned about
> "halfbacks".  Those are Yankees who moved to Florida but later decided to
> move half-way back. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Dan Penoff
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 12:50 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor
> 
> When I returned to Indy in 2008 I was surprised that the outdoor cold never
> really bothered me. However, I could never seem to get warm when inside.
> Weird.
> 
> I love the change of seasons, and enjoy  the rare overcast day down here,
> but the pervasive gray overcast of winter was something I have no desire to
> experience again.
> 
> If I could winter in Florida and spend summer and especially fall up north
> it would be perfect.
> 
> Dan 
> 
> On Jul 16, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
>> I spend at couple days in November in Johnstown, PA (near Altoona, home of
> the famous horseshoe curve) a couple years ago. It snowed the whole time I
> was there. When I asked the guys at the TV station where I was working when
> the snow would stop they said "April".
>> 
>> Personally I don't mind the cold but I guess after a couple days its nice
> to see the sun. I don't stop going outside just because its snowy though...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Rich Thomas]

We have people from Ohio who apparently could not find their way to 
Florida and stopped here, along with their bad habits.  It is insane in 
the summer, and somewhat marginal the rest of the year.  There used to 
be a website called gobacktoohio.com that was pretty funny.


--R
On 7/16/12 4:59 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:

While visiting the Tartan museum in Franklin NC, I learned about
"halfbacks".  Those are Yankees who moved to Florida but later decided to
move half-way back.

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Penoff
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 12:50 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

When I returned to Indy in 2008 I was surprised that the outdoor cold never
really bothered me. However, I could never seem to get warm when inside.
Weird.

I love the change of seasons, and enjoy  the rare overcast day down here,
but the pervasive gray overcast of winter was something I have no desire to
experience again.

If I could winter in Florida and spend summer and especially fall up north
it would be perfect.

Dan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:


I spend at couple days in November in Johnstown, PA (near Altoona, home of

the famous horseshoe curve) a couple years ago. It snowed the whole time I
was there. When I asked the guys at the TV station where I was working when
the snow would stop they said "April".

Personally I don't mind the cold but I guess after a couple days its nice

to see the sun. I don't stop going outside just because its snowy though...

-Curt


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[MBZ] Komblinstrument addendum

[G. M. Brown]

More details about these wire with the tag "Komblinstrument" in my '84 300D: 
there are two blue with yellow stripe wires attached to a shielded female spade 
lug (Note: this is hot) and there's a brown wire (gnd.) attached to an 
unshielded female spade lug.  Anybody got a clue as to what these wires are for 
considering the followup information.  I looked all through my MB 300D 
Electrical Troubleshooting manual and there aren't any BU/YL wires listed in 
any of the schematics.  TIA.
 
G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC  
  
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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Scott Ritchey]

While visiting the Tartan museum in Franklin NC, I learned about
"halfbacks".  Those are Yankees who moved to Florida but later decided to
move half-way back. 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Penoff
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 12:50 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

When I returned to Indy in 2008 I was surprised that the outdoor cold never
really bothered me. However, I could never seem to get warm when inside.
Weird.

I love the change of seasons, and enjoy  the rare overcast day down here,
but the pervasive gray overcast of winter was something I have no desire to
experience again.

If I could winter in Florida and spend summer and especially fall up north
it would be perfect.

Dan 

On Jul 16, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> I spend at couple days in November in Johnstown, PA (near Altoona, home of
the famous horseshoe curve) a couple years ago. It snowed the whole time I
was there. When I asked the guys at the TV station where I was working when
the snow would stop they said "April".
> 
> Personally I don't mind the cold but I guess after a couple days its nice
to see the sun. I don't stop going outside just because its snowy though...
> 
> -Curt
> 

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[MBZ] Bosch IP Durability

[Scott Ritchey]

Ladies and Gents: 

 

I'm looking for your experiences and opinions WRT Bosch Diesel injection
pumps.  My recollection is that they were near bullet-proof but maybe my
memory deceives me.

 

Among other things, I own a Kioti (Daedong of Korea) tractor and subscribe
to tractor list (tractorbynet.com) with a Kioti section.  The Kioti IP is
made by Bosch and it is similar to our Mercedes Diesel pumps except the IP
camshaft is inside the engine block and gear driven, like a mini valve
camshaft.  The Kioti IP bolts in place over this camshaft so it is much like
the top half of our pumps. Another difference is the Kioti fuel shutoff,
which uses an electrical solenoid vs vacuum like MBZ.

 

Now, lately, several Kioti owners have reported IP failures.  Here's a post
showing damage to the gear and rack teeth after one of these failures:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/225273-injector-pu
mp-failure.html.  

A new IP costs over $1K and rebuilds aren't available to this is a high
interest item for many Kioti owners.

 

These failures seem to occur with pretty low hours on the motor, like less
than 1000 hours on tractors ma.

 

So here's what I'd like to know:

1.  Were our old Bosch IPs really as robust as I recall (I can't recall any
reports of similar failures).

2.  What's going on here?  Has the quality of Bosch products really gone
south?  Is this just a bad batch of parts?

 

Thanks 

Scott

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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Mitch Haley]

Dan Penoff wrote:

Yeah, I am what's known as a "12 month employee", named such since a large number of our 
29,000 or so employees are only "10 month employees". Sigh.

Don't think the spouse would be keen about me living up north while she was 
stick down here, either.

I am not holding out hope that our finances would be such that we could do the 
"snowbird" thing come retirement. It would be nice, but I really doubt we will 
have the resources.


The Lady Lake guys own a double wide in a $300 a month senior citizen trailer 
park. Between the two of them, they probably save almost as much on heat for 
their Michigan houses as they spend on the Florida trailer.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Dan Penoff]

Yeah, I am what's known as a "12 month employee", named such since a large 
number of our 29,000 or so employees are only "10 month employees". Sigh.

Don't think the spouse would be keen about me living up north while she was 
stick down here, either.

I am not holding out hope that our finances would be such that we could do the 
"snowbird" thing come retirement. It would be nice, but I really doubt we will 
have the resources.

Dan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> I have friends (retired) who live in Michigan and winter in Lady Lake.
> It works for them.
> 
> Is your school job year round? I know a teacher who runs an ice cream and hot 
> dog stand on a resort island in the summer. That works quite well for him.
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Mitch Haley]

Dan Penoff wrote:

When I returned to Indy in 2008 I was surprised that the outdoor cold never 
really bothered me. However, I could never seem to get warm when inside. Weird.

I love the change of seasons, and enjoy  the rare overcast day down here, but 
the pervasive gray overcast of winter was something I have no desire to 
experience again.

If I could winter in Florida and spend summer and especially fall up north it 
would be perfect.


I have friends (retired) who live in Michigan and winter in Lady Lake.
It works for them.

Is your school job year round? I know a teacher who runs an ice cream and hot 
dog stand on a resort island in the summer. That works quite well for him.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Dan Penoff]

When I returned to Indy in 2008 I was surprised that the outdoor cold never 
really bothered me. However, I could never seem to get warm when inside. Weird.

I love the change of seasons, and enjoy  the rare overcast day down here, but 
the pervasive gray overcast of winter was something I have no desire to 
experience again.

If I could winter in Florida and spend summer and especially fall up north it 
would be perfect.

Dan 

On Jul 16, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> I spend at couple days in November in Johnstown, PA (near Altoona, home of 
> the famous horseshoe curve) a couple years ago. It snowed the whole time I 
> was there. When I asked the guys at the TV station where I was working when 
> the snow would stop they said "April".
> 
> Personally I don't mind the cold but I guess after a couple days its nice to 
> see the sun. I don't stop going outside just because its snowy though...
> 
> -Curt
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Modern cars in the rain

[Dimitri Seretakis]

So do you have an amphicar or what!:)

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 16, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

I'm not saying it wouldn't float, just that at 2' you haven't got enough water 
yet. Get it up around the belt line and see what happens. With that heavy 
engine its not going to plane very well! ;)

-Curt

Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 07:47:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dimitri Seretakis 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Modern cars in the rain
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Sorry 'bout ruinin' yer story:) I can be a troublemaker sometimes. BTW are you 
sure your 240D wasn't an Amphicar;)
Speaking of Amphicars, the owner of the used car dealer on Western Ave in 
Watertown, MA where I bought my 220D 15 yrs ago claimed to have 20 of those 
amphibious vehicles. They were pretty cheap back then. If he still owns them 
he's pretty car rich at 40K a pop today!  

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

Float in 2 feet of water? No.

Anyway I forgot how I knew how much water I was in, I asked the guy in the 
truck! He said the water was up to the tops of the tires on the 240D. So I'm a 
little off, don't ruin a good story ;)

I figured as long as I didn't get water up to the top of the hood where the air 
intake is I'd be okay.

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Curt Raymond]

I spend at couple days in November in Johnstown, PA (near Altoona, home of the 
famous horseshoe curve) a couple years ago. It snowed the whole time I was 
there. When I asked the guys at the TV station where I was working when the 
snow would stop they said "April".

Personally I don't mind the cold but I guess after a couple days its nice to 
see the sun. I don't stop going outside just because its snowy though...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:28:04 -0400
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Yeah, there's that too.  When I was at Purdue, one winter we went 26 
days without seeing the sun.  THAT was depressing, not to mention the 
cold.  It got to be a contest to see how long it would last. But, I did 
not know any better, but like you have learned!

---R


On 7/16/12 10:21 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
> I have become somewhat jaded, as I have found I can't live without regular 
> exposure to the sun, which is not an attribute of the northern climes.


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Re: [MBZ] Modern cars in the rain

[Curt Raymond]

I'm not saying it wouldn't float, just that at 2' you haven't got enough water 
yet. Get it up around the belt line and see what happens. With that heavy 
engine its not going to plane very well! ;)

-Curt

Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 07:47:37 -0700 (PDT)
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Sorry 'bout ruinin' yer story:) I can be a troublemaker sometimes. BTW are you 
sure your 240D wasn't an Amphicar;)
Speaking of Amphicars, the owner of the used car dealer on Western Ave in 
Watertown, MA where I bought my 220D 15 yrs ago claimed to have 20 of those 
amphibious vehicles. They were pretty cheap back then. If he still owns them 
he's pretty car rich at 40K a pop today!  

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

Float in 2 feet of water? No.

Anyway I forgot how I knew how much water I was in, I asked the guy in the 
truck! He said the water was up to the tops of the tires on the 240D. So I'm a 
little off, don't ruin a good story ;)

I figured as long as I didn't get water up to the top of the hood where the air 
intake is I'd be okay.

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT - A/V Receiver

[Dan Penoff]

Bought the Yamaha receiver at HH Gregg. Still in the box in my garage.

Will see if I have time to set it up to tonight.

I sold one of my rarely used vintage receivers to justify the purchase - a 
Sanyo Plus 75, which is a beast of a receiver but still quite viable for 
someone wanting to drive a set of speakers to clipping...

Dan 

On Jul 14, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Ideally that's what it will end up as.  The problem I have now is that nearly 
> nothing out there has anything but HDMI and optical interfaces, meaning my 
> Soundcraftsmen and Sanyo stuff can't be connected to it without converters or 
> some other hokey arrangement.  Not to add that the switching issue still 
> exists for the video signals.
> 
> I see where my local H.H. Gregg has a Yamaha RX-V373 for $249 with another 
> 11% off.  It has everything I need and for that money I can justify it.
> 
> I may order it for local pickup today.  Gotta give it some thought.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> On Jul 14, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
> 
>> Dan Penoff  writes:
>> 
>>> My motivation for an AV receiver is more a matter of device management
>>> than anything else.  I want something that will switch the inputs via
>>> the remote and not have to rely on a separate switch.  The audio part
>>> is icing on the cake, but matters little to me.
>> 
>> I'd just do standard 2-channel stereo if it were me.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Dan Penoff]

Exactly.

That is the one thing that literally made me crazy when I moved back up there 
in 2008 from Florida. I had absolutely no idea how much the lack of sunlight 
would affect me.

Hard to imagine it didn't affect me growing up, but as you say, if you don't 
know any different

We had nearly a week of little to no sunlight recently when TS Debby went 
through. It was noticeable after a few days, sort of like, "Hey, what's going 
on?"

I love Wisconsin where we used to live, and I miss the huge house we had in 
Indy, but there is no way I could ever return to either place on a long term 
basis.

Dan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Rich Thomas 
 wrote:

> Yeah, there's that too.  When I was at Purdue, one winter we went 26 days 
> without seeing the sun.  THAT was depressing, not to mention the cold.  It 
> got to be a contest to see how long it would last. But, I did not know any 
> better, but like you have learned!
> 
> ---R
> 
> 
> On 7/16/12 10:21 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
>> I have become somewhat jaded, as I have found I can't live without regular 
>> exposure to the sun, which is not an attribute of the northern climes.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Modern cars in the rain

[Rich Thomas]

I guess it would not have been a good car for Teddy K then.

--R

On 7/16/12 10:27 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Float in 2 feet of water? No.




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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Rich Thomas]

Yeah, there's that too.  When I was at Purdue, one winter we went 26 
days without seeing the sun.  THAT was depressing, not to mention the 
cold.  It got to be a contest to see how long it would last. But, I did 
not know any better, but like you have learned!


---R


On 7/16/12 10:21 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

I have become somewhat jaded, as I have found I can't live without regular 
exposure to the sun, which is not an attribute of the northern climes.




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Re: [MBZ] Modern cars in the rain

[Dimitri Seretakis]

Sorry 'bout ruinin' yer story:) I can be a troublemaker sometimes. BTW are you 
sure your 240D wasn't an Amphicar;)
Speaking of Amphicars, the owner of the used car dealer on Western Ave in 
Watertown, MA where I bought my 220D 15 yrs ago claimed to have 20 of those 
amphibious vehicles. They were pretty cheap back then. If he still owns them 
he's pretty car rich at 40K a pop today!  

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

Float in 2 feet of water? No.

Anyway I forgot how I knew how much water I was in, I asked the guy in the 
truck! He said the water was up to the tops of the tires on the 240D. So I'm a 
little off, don't ruin a good story ;)

I figured as long as I didn't get water up to the top of the hood where the air 
intake is I'd be okay.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 06:41:05 -0700 (PDT)
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Good that you made it through but are you sure that you forged through 2 feet 
of water? Wouldn't the car start to float at that water level?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 16, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

You forgot to mention what you were driving ;)

6 or 7 years ago I was driving home in my '83 240D during a terrific pounding 
rain. Our exit had been closed due to flooding so I went up to the next one and 
proceeded through town. There were places where water was rolling down the 
street in 3" deep torrents. I stayed in first gear and just kept chugging.
One of the last turns I made brought me through probably a 2 foot deep river. I 
just went slow and all was well. Behind me as I chugged away I saw headlights 
and saw them go dim as the engine obviously quit. I figured it was wrong to 
leave somebody stranded there so I turned around and went back. In the middle 
of the torrent is a guy in a big pickup. I pulled up beside him (in the 
torrent), put down the window and asked if he was alright. He looked sheepish 
and said he'd probably gone too fast into the water.
He had AAA so I left him and headed home. Other than the alternator shrieking 
from the time it spent under water nothing exciting happened to me that night. 
Slow and steady wins the race.

-Curt

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[MBZ] OT dehumidifier

[G. M. Brown]

DON'T BUY SEARS!  I bought a Sears dehumidifier in '07 and it leaked from the 
get go and they wouldn't fix it, even after I had sent a letter to their CEO 
and he referred me to someone who couldn't speak English.  Both my cars have 
since been displaying Sears with an international no-no sign on a rear 
passenger window ever since.
 
G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC   
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[MBZ] Fwd: '82 Mercedes 300CD Turbo Coupe - $2000 (North Shore)

[Fred Moir]

Not mine, etc.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred



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I am selling an '82 Mercedes 300CD (turbo coupe) in as is condition.

Car had roughly 180K miles on it, engine was replace with a crated new 
Mercedes engine roughly 20K miles ago. Power sunroof, power windows, 
cruise, cream yellow in color.


Car has not been started in a year, battery is dead, two flat tires. 
Includes Nakamichi 6 CD in dash changer (worth $500 alone).


Looking for $2,000 or BEST REASONABLE OFFER (cash only). Make me an 
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Re: [MBZ] Modern cars in the rain

[Curt Raymond]

Float in 2 feet of water? No.

Anyway I forgot how I knew how much water I was in, I asked the guy in the 
truck! He said the water was up to the tops of the tires on the 240D. So I'm a 
little off, don't ruin a good story ;)

I figured as long as I didn't get water up to the top of the hood where the air 
intake is I'd be okay.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 06:41:05 -0700 (PDT)
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Good that you made it through but are you sure that you forged through 2 feet 
of water? Wouldn't the car start to float at that water level?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 16, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

You forgot to mention what you were driving ;)

6 or 7 years ago I was driving home in my '83 240D during a terrific pounding 
rain. Our exit had been closed due to flooding so I went up to the next one and 
proceeded through town. There were places where water was rolling down the 
street in 3" deep torrents. I stayed in first gear and just kept chugging.
One of the last turns I made brought me through probably a 2 foot deep river. I 
just went slow and all was well. Behind me as I chugged away I saw headlights 
and saw them go dim as the engine obviously quit. I figured it was wrong to 
leave somebody stranded there so I turned around and went back. In the middle 
of the torrent is a guy in a big pickup. I pulled up beside him (in the 
torrent), put down the window and asked if he was alright. He looked sheepish 
and said he'd probably gone too fast into the water.
He had AAA so I left him and headed home. Other than the alternator shrieking 
from the time it spent under water nothing exciting happened to me that night. 
Slow and steady wins the race.

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Dan Penoff]

Rich,

Based on my experiences in the area through the late 80s and from 2008-2010, 
not a lot has changed in the area. If anything, it's gotten worse, mainly due 
to the collapse of heavy industry in the area.

GM has a huge plant on the south side of town, but other than that heavy 
industry that once dominated the area has pretty much disappeared.

Marion and Gas City, both nearby towns that lived off of heavy industry, are 
really hurting.

Generally speaking its a nice area with a good cost of living. If you make a 
decent salary you can live well.

I know that Taylor is a very vibrant educational community, based on both what 
my niece has told me as well as what folks in secondary education in the state 
said.

Despite the small size, Taylor has a very good reputation as a private school, 
and I was surprised at the number of kids in my son's graduating class of 2010 
who were going there (this was while we were living in Indianapolis.)

While I would expect the environment to be very different than Los Alamos, it 
would seem that there are a lot of real positives about the place (not to 
mention the idea of being gainfully employed!)

Living in Indiana, I found the northern portions to be depressing for a lot of 
reasons, mainly that it was rural and flat. Get up in your neighborhood and you 
can add the wonderful cities of Gary and East Chicago to that, too.

That being said, the Midwest has a lot of positive aspects as well, such as 
cost of living and a well grounded value system.

I have become somewhat jaded, as I have found I can't live without regular 
exposure to the sun, which is not an attribute of the northern climes.

Dan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:01 AM, Rich Thomas 
 wrote:

> I grew up, er, spent my first 18yr, in the Fort.  Decent enough place at that 
> time I guess, but sadly lacking in anything particularly exciting.  Perhaps 
> in the intervening 40 () years it has improved, though I have heard it 
> has not, and in fact might have become worse off due to changing demographics 
> of the population, etc.  I guess anyplace is what you make it, but I would 
> not expect a lot of stimulation.  The surrounding countryside is pleasant 
> enough if you go for flat farms.  A bit north of FWA is a lake area with lots 
> of small (and a few a bit larger)  lakes, cottages, and such.  There are some 
> river impoundments around too. Fishing and boating fun.  Indianapolis is not 
> too far away, I am sure there might be a bit more of something desirable 
> there. Chicago too should you want to risk that.
> 
> Cultural diversity seemed to be that we had some Jews who lived here and 
> there (and some were my friends in HS), but it was mostly your basic white 
> bread lifestyle, though there was a sizable black population back then (not 
> much mixing at that time), and hispanics were starting to come (and I had a 
> friend whose parents started a Mexican restaurant about the time I left, 
> never got a chance to try it out-- that would have been quite daring!).  
> There were some heavy industries (Intl Harvester, GM built a truck plant but 
> I think it might have closed, electronics) but the economy might have pounded 
> those.  A lot of Germans settled in the area back when, still a lot of that 
> influence.  Amish are (were) strong north of FWA, they might have spread to 
> other areas as they expand their families/farming activities.
> 
> I am planning to go back for my 40th HS reunion in September, will be 
> interesting to see what changes hath wrought.  I have not been back in like 
> 25yr, my parents left about then to move back to their home domain in KY so 
> never had much reason to go.
> 
> All that said, good luck with your interview, I am sure you will do well and 
> might have the opportunity to try something new.  And being around kids and 
> teaching will provide a lot of satisfaction, which will make up for any other 
> shortcomings.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/16/12 8:10 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
>> Culturally you will probably find it to be lacking in a lot of respects. I 
>> don't know that specific area in great detail, but much of what has been 
>> said previously will be true - primarily an agrarian society with strong 
>> moral values and limited education.
>> 
>> Wonderful people, but it can be a little stifling due to the limited life 
>> experiences that can lead to a very narrow world view.
>> 
>> Ft. Wayne is close (1hour), and has a fairly active cultural community. You 
>> can expect to find just about anything you would like there. Muncie (Ball 
>> State) is close by as well, and has a thriving cultural community.
>> 
>> I doubt there will be much in the way of cultural diversity outside of 
>> Taylor. As to the comment about minorities, no, the bulk of the locals are 
>> Anglos to the best of my knowledge.
>> 
>> All of this being said, working in a higher educational environment (I have 
>> found) can be quite stimulating. While the locals may not be terribly 
>>

Re: [MBZ] Modern cars in the rain

[Dimitri Seretakis]

Actually, if it were longer and had some pics then I think it would definitely 
be suitable for publication:)

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Max Dillon  wrote:

Dare you to submit for publication in The Star

Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:

About an hour ago we were traveling south on the Merit Parkway.  It was
heavily raining.  I had the wipers set to the first automatic setting

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD

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Re: [MBZ] Modern cars in the rain

[Max Dillon]

Dare you to submit for publication in The Star

Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:

>About an hour ago we were traveling south on the Merit Parkway.  It was
>heavily raining.  I had the wipers set to the first automatic setting
>
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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Rich Thomas]

I grew up, er, spent my first 18yr, in the Fort.  Decent enough place at 
that time I guess, but sadly lacking in anything particularly exciting.  
Perhaps in the intervening 40 () years it has improved, though I 
have heard it has not, and in fact might have become worse off due to 
changing demographics of the population, etc.  I guess anyplace is what 
you make it, but I would not expect a lot of stimulation.  The 
surrounding countryside is pleasant enough if you go for flat farms.  A 
bit north of FWA is a lake area with lots of small (and a few a bit 
larger)  lakes, cottages, and such.  There are some river impoundments 
around too. Fishing and boating fun.  Indianapolis is not too far away, 
I am sure there might be a bit more of something desirable there. 
Chicago too should you want to risk that.


Cultural diversity seemed to be that we had some Jews who lived here and 
there (and some were my friends in HS), but it was mostly your basic 
white bread lifestyle, though there was a sizable black population back 
then (not much mixing at that time), and hispanics were starting to come 
(and I had a friend whose parents started a Mexican restaurant about the 
time I left, never got a chance to try it out-- that would have been 
quite daring!).  There were some heavy industries (Intl Harvester, GM 
built a truck plant but I think it might have closed, electronics) but 
the economy might have pounded those.  A lot of Germans settled in the 
area back when, still a lot of that influence.  Amish are (were) strong 
north of FWA, they might have spread to other areas as they expand their 
families/farming activities.


I am planning to go back for my 40th HS reunion in September, will be 
interesting to see what changes hath wrought.  I have not been back in 
like 25yr, my parents left about then to move back to their home domain 
in KY so never had much reason to go.


All that said, good luck with your interview, I am sure you will do well 
and might have the opportunity to try something new.  And being around 
kids and teaching will provide a lot of satisfaction, which will make up 
for any other shortcomings.


--R



On 7/16/12 8:10 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Culturally you will probably find it to be lacking in a lot of respects. I 
don't know that specific area in great detail, but much of what has been said 
previously will be true - primarily an agrarian society with strong moral 
values and limited education.

Wonderful people, but it can be a little stifling due to the limited life 
experiences that can lead to a very narrow world view.

Ft. Wayne is close (1hour), and has a fairly active cultural community. You can 
expect to find just about anything you would like there. Muncie (Ball State) is 
close by as well, and has a thriving cultural community.

I doubt there will be much in the way of cultural diversity outside of Taylor. 
As to the comment about minorities, no, the bulk of the locals are Anglos to 
the best of my knowledge.

All of this being said, working in a higher educational environment (I have 
found) can be quite stimulating. While the locals may not be terribly dynamic, 
the faculty will most likely be an interesting bunch of people.

While this hasn't come into the conversation yet, Taylor is an evangelical 
school, so the religious aspect plays a very large part in the day to day 
operation of the campus. I certainly don't think they are zealots by any means, 
at least not based on what I have seen and heard from my niece who graduated 
from Taylor a few years ago, but I do know that the religious aspect of the 
school is a significant part of things.

Guess that means you shouldn't swear like a longshoreman during your interview?



Again, good luck! I hope you are successful in your search.

Dan


On Jul 15, 2012, at 11:45 PM, Craig  wrote:


On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:52:07 -0400 Dan Penoff  wrote:


Excellent!

Best of luck! I suspect you will be flying in to Ft. Wayne?  I hope so,
as it's a couple of hours from Indy (and a very, very boring drive.)

I don't know yet; the secretary who makes travel arrangements was out on
vacation last week.



Culturally and climatically it will be quite different from where you
are currently, but that's not a bad thing.

Climatically, I understand. What is the difference culturally (other than
much fewer Hispanics and Indians)?



Again, good luck and keep us posted on your progress.

Thanks, I shall.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Dan Penoff]

Craig,

Sounds like it could be a really good fit for you. Hope all goes well.

Dan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Craig  wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:10:43 -0400 Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>> Culturally you will probably find it to be lacking in a lot of
>> respects. I don't know that specific area in great detail, but much of
>> what has been said previously will be true - primarily an agrarian
>> society with strong moral values and limited education.
> 
> We have lived in agrarian areas before, so it won't be a surprise.
> 
> 
>> All of this being said, working in a higher educational environment (I
>> have found) can be quite stimulating. While the locals may not be
>> terribly dynamic, the faculty will most likely be an interesting bunch
>> of people.
> 
> That's encouraging.
> 
> 
>> I certainly don't think they are zealots by any means, at least not
>> based on what I have seen and heard from my niece who graduated from
>> Taylor a few years ago, but I do know that the religious aspect of the
>> school is a significant part of things.
> 
> Since the religious aspect is a significant part of our lives, this is
> exactly what we want.
> 
> 
>> Guess that means you shouldn't swear like a longshoreman during your
>> interview?
>> 
>> 
> 
> Yeah, I guess not swearing would make a better impression. :-)
> 
> 
>> Again, good luck! I hope you are successful in your search.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Craig]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:10:43 -0400 Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Culturally you will probably find it to be lacking in a lot of
> respects. I don't know that specific area in great detail, but much of
> what has been said previously will be true - primarily an agrarian
> society with strong moral values and limited education.

We have lived in agrarian areas before, so it won't be a surprise.


> All of this being said, working in a higher educational environment (I
> have found) can be quite stimulating. While the locals may not be
> terribly dynamic, the faculty will most likely be an interesting bunch
> of people.

That's encouraging.


> I certainly don't think they are zealots by any means, at least not
> based on what I have seen and heard from my niece who graduated from
> Taylor a few years ago, but I do know that the religious aspect of the
> school is a significant part of things.

Since the religious aspect is a significant part of our lives, this is
exactly what we want.


> Guess that means you shouldn't swear like a longshoreman during your
> interview?
> 
> 

Yeah, I guess not swearing would make a better impression. :-)


> Again, good luck! I hope you are successful in your search.

Thank you.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Sluggish 300D

[Craig]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:30:28 -0500 Donald Snook  wrote:

> Im glad two of my former cars are out their making their new owners
> happy.  I assume Craig (from Los Alamos) still has my 1995 E320.

Yes, after a water pump replacement, it's running well. The fan bearing
is making noise when it's cold, so I will have to replace that, too.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Modern cars in the rain

[Dimitri Seretakis]

Good that you made it through but are you sure that you forged through 2 feet 
of water? Wouldn't the car start to float at that water level?

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On Jul 16, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

You forgot to mention what you were driving ;)

6 or 7 years ago I was driving home in my '83 240D during a terrific pounding 
rain. Our exit had been closed due to flooding so I went up to the next one and 
proceeded through town. There were places where water was rolling down the 
street in 3" deep torrents. I stayed in first gear and just kept chugging.
One of the last turns I made brought me through probably a 2 foot deep river. I 
just went slow and all was well. Behind me as I chugged away I saw headlights 
and saw them go dim as the engine obviously quit. I figured it was wrong to 
leave somebody stranded there so I turned around and went back. In the middle 
of the torrent is a guy in a big pickup. I pulled up beside him (in the 
torrent), put down the window and asked if he was alright. He looked sheepish 
and said he'd probably gone too fast into the water.
He had AAA so I left him and headed home. Other than the alternator shrieking 
from the time it spent under water nothing exciting happened to me that night. 
Slow and steady wins the race.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:35:53 -0400
From: Jaime Kopchinski 
To: Banned List ,mercedes Mailing List
   
Subject: [MBZ] Modern cars in the rain
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About an hour ago we were traveling south on the Merit Parkway.  It was
heavily raining.  I had the wipers set to the first automatic setting which
varied the speed according to the intensity of rain and vehicle speed.  The
intelligent adaptive headlights were on, as well as the rear fog light.  A
warning appeared on the instrument cluster that Pre-safe, Distronic, and
Active blind spot assist were temporarily unavailable.  I suspect it was
from the heavy rain.  The sat nav changed my route and suggested a cut over
to I-95 to avoid some traffic.  I was skeptical, but as we approached the
exit, traffic slowed to a near stand still.  I exited and followed the
guidance to I-95.  Rain had let up and the instrument cluster told me my
radar assisted functions were available again.  Approaching I-95, we
stopped at an intersection.  There was a large amount of standing water and
several disabled cars.  I reached over and pressed the button to raise the
ride height of the car.  I had a vision of a 5 figure engine replacement,
but I cut the corner and we made it through, and finally onto the highway.
It started raining heavy again.  I stayed in the middle lane and kept a up
a moderate pace.  I checked my mirrors... coming up on my left, yellow
headlights at all, was a Citroen 2CV.  He passed me going about 10mph
faster.  And suddenly... I wished I was behind the wheel of a thirty year
old 240D.

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Re: [MBZ] Sluggish 300D

[Donald Snook]

Kaleb wrote: "That's the one. Odo quit but it shows like 250 or so."

Of all the cars I have owned and sold (approx. 30 cars), there are only two 
that I wished I had them back after I sold them.  One was a 1990 Oldsmobile 88 
that was owned by a customer of mine when I worked at the dealership.  He was a 
fanatic about maintenance and cosmetic condition.  It was also just a great car.

The other car I wished I had back was the car you now have - 1990 300D 2.5.  
That was also a beautiful car and the 300D 2.5 is such a phenomenal MB diesel.  
I'm sure the newer diesels are great, but I loved that old car.  I shouldn't 
really regret selling it.  I drove it for 2.5 years and put 80,000 miles on it 
and sold it to OK Don for a good price.  I just really liked that car.  If it 
had been just a little bigger especially in terms of back seat room for 
passengers, I would have kept it.

I do really LOVE my 740iL.  It is big roomy, all the extra luxury features work 
and it still catches your eye.  I did hit a bird on the highway last week and 
it knocked out one of the kidney shaped grills in the front.  So, I am going to 
have find one of those.

Im glad two of my former cars are out their making their new owners happy.  I 
assume Craig (from Los Alamos) still has my 1995 E320.

Donald H. Snook
2000 BMW 740iL 192K
2010 Dodge Charger 3.5HO 50K (her car)

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Re: [MBZ] Modern cars in the rain

[Curt Raymond]

You forgot to mention what you were driving ;)

6 or 7 years ago I was driving home in my '83 240D during a terrific pounding 
rain. Our exit had been closed due to flooding so I went up to the next one and 
proceeded through town. There were places where water was rolling down the 
street in 3" deep torrents. I stayed in first gear and just kept chugging.
One of the last turns I made brought me through probably a 2 foot deep river. I 
just went slow and all was well. Behind me as I chugged away I saw headlights 
and saw them go dim as the engine obviously quit. I figured it was wrong to 
leave somebody stranded there so I turned around and went back. In the middle 
of the torrent is a guy in a big pickup. I pulled up beside him (in the 
torrent), put down the window and asked if he was alright. He looked sheepish 
and said he'd probably gone too fast into the water.
He had AAA so I left him and headed home. Other than the alternator shrieking 
from the time it spent under water nothing exciting happened to me that night. 
Slow and steady wins the race.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:35:53 -0400
From: Jaime Kopchinski 
To: Banned List ,mercedes Mailing List

Subject: [MBZ] Modern cars in the rain
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

About an hour ago we were traveling south on the Merit Parkway.  It was
heavily raining.  I had the wipers set to the first automatic setting which
varied the speed according to the intensity of rain and vehicle speed.  The
intelligent adaptive headlights were on, as well as the rear fog light.  A
warning appeared on the instrument cluster that Pre-safe, Distronic, and
Active blind spot assist were temporarily unavailable.  I suspect it was
from the heavy rain.  The sat nav changed my route and suggested a cut over
to I-95 to avoid some traffic.  I was skeptical, but as we approached the
exit, traffic slowed to a near stand still.  I exited and followed the
guidance to I-95.  Rain had let up and the instrument cluster told me my
radar assisted functions were available again.  Approaching I-95, we
stopped at an intersection.  There was a large amount of standing water and
several disabled cars.  I reached over and pressed the button to raise the
ride height of the car.  I had a vision of a 5 figure engine replacement,
but I cut the corner and we made it through, and finally onto the highway.
It started raining heavy again.  I stayed in the middle lane and kept a up
a moderate pace.  I checked my mirrors... coming up on my left, yellow
headlights at all, was a Citroen 2CV.  He passed me going about 10mph
faster.  And suddenly... I wished I was behind the wheel of a thirty year
old 240D.

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Re: [MBZ] OT macophiles -- memory

[Curt Raymond]

Because its a Mac you could do OWC, but otherwise Crucial is IT. Anything else 
is just screwing around.

If you find yourself in Idaho you can go to their massive facility where they 
stocked nearly everything and, at least at one point, would install for free.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:28:10 -0400
From: Rich Thomas 
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Subject: [MBZ] OT macophiles -- memory
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I want to get more memory for my iMac, Crucial is supposed to be decent 
stuff, right?   Reasonable enough price.

http://www.crucial.com/store/mpartspecs.aspx?mtbpoid=9463832EA5CA7304

--R


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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Dan Penoff]

Yeah, you might as well be on another planet considering where you live 
relative to Upland, IN.

I wouldn't consider Ft. Wayne a cultural center, either, but it's better than 
nothing. For that matter, Muncie isn't that far, so there are options...

Dan

On Jul 16, 2012, at 8:31 AM, Rick Knoble  wrote:

> Oh, I figured that. I just figured as a Hoosier it was my duty to respond. :-)
> I like so close to Chicago I enjoy (endure sometimes) much cultural 
> diversity. 
> 
> Rick
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 16, 2012, at 1:19 AM, "Brian Toscano"  wrote:
> 
>> Craig asked what to expect culturally.  I did not pass along any judgement.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Rick Knoble]

Oh, I figured that. I just figured as a Hoosier it was my duty to respond. :-)
 I like so close to Chicago I enjoy (endure sometimes) much cultural diversity. 

Rick
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On Jul 16, 2012, at 1:19 AM, "Brian Toscano"  wrote:

> Craig asked what to expect culturally.  I did not pass along any judgement.

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Re: [MBZ] I'm interviewing at Taylor

[Dan Penoff]

Culturally you will probably find it to be lacking in a lot of respects. I 
don't know that specific area in great detail, but much of what has been said 
previously will be true - primarily an agrarian society with strong moral 
values and limited education.

Wonderful people, but it can be a little stifling due to the limited life 
experiences that can lead to a very narrow world view.

Ft. Wayne is close (1hour), and has a fairly active cultural community. You can 
expect to find just about anything you would like there. Muncie (Ball State) is 
close by as well, and has a thriving cultural community.

I doubt there will be much in the way of cultural diversity outside of Taylor. 
As to the comment about minorities, no, the bulk of the locals are Anglos to 
the best of my knowledge.

All of this being said, working in a higher educational environment (I have 
found) can be quite stimulating. While the locals may not be terribly dynamic, 
the faculty will most likely be an interesting bunch of people.

While this hasn't come into the conversation yet, Taylor is an evangelical 
school, so the religious aspect plays a very large part in the day to day 
operation of the campus. I certainly don't think they are zealots by any means, 
at least not based on what I have seen and heard from my niece who graduated 
from Taylor a few years ago, but I do know that the religious aspect of the 
school is a significant part of things.

Guess that means you shouldn't swear like a longshoreman during your interview?



Again, good luck! I hope you are successful in your search.

Dan


On Jul 15, 2012, at 11:45 PM, Craig  wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:52:07 -0400 Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>> Excellent!
>> 
>> Best of luck! I suspect you will be flying in to Ft. Wayne?  I hope so,
>> as it's a couple of hours from Indy (and a very, very boring drive.)
> 
> I don't know yet; the secretary who makes travel arrangements was out on
> vacation last week.
> 
> 
>> Culturally and climatically it will be quite different from where you
>> are currently, but that's not a bad thing.
> 
> Climatically, I understand. What is the difference culturally (other than
> much fewer Hispanics and Indians)?
> 
> 
>> Again, good luck and keep us posted on your progress.
> 
> Thanks, I shall.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Running hot.

[John Reames]

Seconded. True for a 123.133 and a 210.025.

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On Jul 14, 2012, at 23:07, andrew strasfogel  wrote:

> It isn't necessary to remove the radiator to install a new fan clutch
> - I've even done this myself.
> 
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> I'm not disputing that your repair solved the symptom, I think the problem 
>> was something else.
>> 
>> At a guess, the radiator had to come out to make the replacement and in 
>> doing so the crud lodged between the radiator and condenser got removed 
>> curing the problem. Or maybe just that final coolant swap moved some junk 
>> lodged in the radiator...
>> 
>> You can't deny that a car moving at speed pushes more air over the radiator 
>> than the fan.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 09:17:35 -0400
>> From: andrew strasfogel 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Running hot.
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> 
>> I have to disagree even though the theory is impeccable.  Replacing
>> the fan clutch solved the overheating problem on my 1970 280SE W108
>> sedan and 1970 280SE 3.5 coupe.  Maybe that wouldn't apply for a
>> diesel but I know this worked for me TWICE.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Modern cars in the rain

[TE]

Like!


LOL, wait, this isn't facebook.

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Jaime Kopchinski
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Subject: [MBZ] Modern cars in the rain

About an hour ago we were traveling south on the Merit Parkway.  It was
heavily raining.  I had the wipers set to the first automatic setting which
varied the speed according to the intensity of rain and vehicle speed.  The
intelligent adaptive headlights were on, as well as the rear fog light.  A
warning appeared on the instrument cluster that Pre-safe, Distronic, and
Active blind spot assist were temporarily unavailable.  I suspect it was
from the heavy rain.  The sat nav changed my route and suggested a cut over
to I-95 to avoid some traffic.  I was skeptical, but as we approached the
exit, traffic slowed to a near stand still.  I exited and followed the
guidance to I-95.  Rain had let up and the instrument cluster told me my
radar assisted functions were available again.  Approaching I-95, we stopped
at an intersection.  There was a large amount of standing water and several
disabled cars.  I reached over and pressed the button to raise the ride
height of the car.  I had a vision of a 5 figure engine replacement, but I
cut the corner and we made it through, and finally onto the highway.
 It started raining heavy again.  I stayed in the middle lane and kept a up
a moderate pace.  I checked my mirrors... coming up on my left, yellow
headlights at all, was a Citroen 2CV.  He passed me going about 10mph
faster.  And suddenly... I wished I was behind the wheel of a thirty year
old 240D.
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