[MBZ] Hundreds of cars torched in French New Year 'tradition'
Interior Minister Manuel Valls said Tuesday that 1,193 vehicles were torched by French youths overnight in what has become a dubious New Year's Eve tradition. Hundreds of empty, parked cars go up in flames in France each New Year's Eve, set afire by young revelers, a much lamented tradition that remained intact this year with 1,193 vehicles burned, Interior Minister Manuel Valls said Tuesday. His announcement was the first time in three years that such figures have been released. The conservative government of former President Nicolas Sarkozy had decided to stop publishing them in a bid to reduce the crime -- and not play into the hands of car-torching youths who try to outdo each other. France's current Socialist government decided otherwise, deeming total transparency the best method, and the rate of burned cars apparently remained steady. On Dec. 31, 2009, the last public figure available, 1,147 vehicles were burned. Like many countries, France sees cars set on fire during the year for many reasons, including gangs hiding clues of their crimes and people making false insurance claims. But car-torching took a new step in France when it became a way to mark the arrival of the New Year. The practice reportedly began in earnest among youths -- often in poor neighborhoods -- in the 1990s in the region around Strasbourg in eastern France. It also became a voice of protest during the fiery unrest by despairing youths from housing projects that swept France in the fall of 2005. At the time, police counted 8,810 vehicles burned in less than three weeks. Yet even then, cars were not burned in big cities like Paris, and that remained the case this New Year's Eve. Minister Valls said the Paris suburban region of Seine-Saint-Denis, where the 2005 unrest started, led the nation for torched cars, followed by two eastern regions around Strasbourg. For some, the decision to tell the public how many cars have been burned on New Year's Eve is a mistake. Bruno Beschizza, the national secretary for security matters in Sarkozy's UMP party, said on iTele TV that publishing the numbers motivates youths to commit such crimes. We know that neighborhoods compete, he said. Gang rivalries center on who can torch the most cars, with claims made on social networks like Facebook and Twitter, he said. http://www.france24.com/en/20130102-hundreds-cars-torched-french-new-year-tradition France is a civilized country? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Secret message for Mitch byda9uja
Mitch, the 4-ETS 4matic system like the standard ETS (Electronic Traction Support) on some models are similar in that there is no throttle intervention, power/torque is regulated by brake application only, forcing up to 25% of the available torque to a single wheel (in the case of 4-ETS). If either of the front tires aren't able to take their share of the available power, your limited to backing off until traction is regained at the rear (or your stuck!). Do you have an early model S210 (98-99?) without the optional ESP (Electronic Stability Program)? Something to be on the lookout for, if anyone is in the market for a early 210 4matic. Little sense having forward traction if the car is reluctant to go where you point it! http://4x4abc.com/ML320/ml320_4ETS.html On 1/3/2013 2:10 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: I've found that my new tires on the back break loose first under throttle application in snow, the 4MATIC system doesn't prevent wheelspin as well as I thought (if you don't back out of the throttle when the yellow triangle starts blinking the car won't back off the throttle for you, or at least doesn't back off as quickly as I expected). The new tires are much better than the old, it understeers horribly in the snow and the fronts lock up first under breaking. Maybe there's less weight in the back, causing the back to spin first under throttle? -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
I think Jaime may be able to help you with a source for decent tires that will fit your wheels and your budget. Search his past posts. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I do too. I am in a bind over being able to source a tire that performs to the design specifications of the car. I can put lower speed tires that fit the OEM rim, or upsize to rims that will fit current formulas of rubber.Tom @ Classic center says to put lower grade rubber or purchase, from classic center at great cost, the 15 inch wheels used on the 560SL. I have a budget of $600 to solve this puzzle clay On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I think those wheels will look horrible! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2013, at 3:10 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Had a blow out on right rear, classic center says to use underwhelming tires on stock rims or upsize to a 15inch. Both 14 15 inch are becoming harder to source so I looked at upsize x2, I still need good rubber for Froggy. I was able to pick up some 8 hole 16 inch benz rims. What does the group mind think I will have problems with? 1150 is cast on the front side. 7 1/2 Jx16H2 ET-96 PCD 112 Made in Italy I looked at tire sizes to fit and came up with best seeming to be a 205/60/16 in H rated or V. That would have minimal impact on speedo, which is far off anyway. Are these wheels too fat to fit under the fender? Any other issues I am missing? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Secret message for Mitch byda9uja
Chris James wrote: Do you have an early model S210 (98-99?) without the optional ESP (Electronic Stability Program)? Something to be on the lookout for, if anyone is in the market for a early 210 4matic. Little sense having forward traction if the car is reluctant to go where you point it! Correct, it's a 1999 (last year before ESP became standard) without ESP. I used to want a 2000-2003 wagon for the ESP, until I realized the 98-99 models had more ground clearance. Now I want a 1999 with the ESP option. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
Unfortunately, 205/70R14 is very hard these days. I'm running 195/70R14 Vredestein Hi Tracs on my 300D and they're excellent and not too horribly expensive. The only 205/70R14 tire around thats very good is the Vredestein Sprint Classic, but they're $200-250 each. They only make sense on more valuable cars. They have a very low thread wear rating, so I never expect them to last very long either... not ideal for a daily driver. I'm a big fan of the smaller Sprint Classics in original sizes for earlier cars like 185R14 and 175R14. They look and ride great and are reasonably priced. But something to think about: tires are one of the most important safety features of your car. Buy the best you can afford and avoid anything older than 4-5 years old. Stopping or turning in an emergency situation is worth quite a bit! Jaime On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: I think Jaime may be able to help you with a source for decent tires that will fit your wheels and your budget. Search his past posts. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I do too. I am in a bind over being able to source a tire that performs to the design specifications of the car. I can put lower speed tires that fit the OEM rim, or upsize to rims that will fit current formulas of rubber.Tom @ Classic center says to put lower grade rubber or purchase, from classic center at great cost, the 15 inch wheels used on the 560SL. I have a budget of $600 to solve this puzzle clay On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I think those wheels will look horrible! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2013, at 3:10 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Had a blow out on right rear, classic center says to use underwhelming tires on stock rims or upsize to a 15inch. Both 14 15 inch are becoming harder to source so I looked at upsize x2, I still need good rubber for Froggy. I was able to pick up some 8 hole 16 inch benz rims. What does the group mind think I will have problems with? 1150 is cast on the front side. 7 1/2 Jx16H2 ET-96 PCD 112 Made in Italy I looked at tire sizes to fit and came up with best seeming to be a 205/60/16 in H rated or V. That would have minimal impact on speedo, which is far off anyway. Are these wheels too fat to fit under the fender? Any other issues I am missing? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of cars torched in French New Year 'tradition'
unh huh. --R On 1/3/13 4:02 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: French youths ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades I do too. I am in a bind over being able to source a tire that performs to the design specifications of the car. I can put lower speed tires that fit the OEM rim, or upsize to rims that will fit current formulas of rubber.Tom @ Classic center says to put lower grade rubber or purchase, from classic center at great cost, the 15 inch wheels used on the 560SL. I have a budget of $600 to solve this puzzle clay On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I think those wheels will look horrible! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2013, at 3:10 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Had a blow out on right rear, classic center says to use underwhelming tires on stock rims or upsize to a 15inch. Both 14 15 inch are becoming harder to source so I looked at upsize x2, I still need good rubber for Froggy. I was able to pick up some 8 hole 16 inch benz rims. What does the group mind think I will have problems with? 1150 is cast on the front side. 7 1/2 Jx16H2 ET-96 PCD 112 Made in Italy I looked at tire sizes to fit and came up with best seeming to be a 205/60/16 in H rated or V. That would have minimal impact on speedo, which is far off anyway. Are these wheels too fat to fit under the fender? Any other issues I am missing? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
I've been using Michelin primacy on the w210's and pilots on the 123. Big difference from the Pirelli (p4000?) that were on the 123, and the Bridgestone potenza's that were on one of the 210's. The P4000's had comparatively horrid traction (dry, abominable wet) and felt like inner tubes or marshmallows for turns/cornering The Bridgestone tires were okay-ish when it was dry, but were all over the place when it was wet. The other 210 had Conti Eco-whatever's on them, and there is a little improvement from them, but the big difference is that the Conti's will slip a belt if you look at them cross-eyed. It's a good thing to be able to stop in the rain in a short enough distance that the cars behind you have to unzip (to the sides) (I'm not saying it is a good thing to do it, but its good to be able to when the idiots in front of you play bumper cars...) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 3, 2013, at 0:24, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: SWMBA has her hiyundie-eh? that is used to transport boy #1 to MT for college in August. We got her new rubber when she got back this fall. Four trips and three years did the tires in. I put some schwab rubber on the E300D. They are pretty much garbage. Excessive hydroplaning and inability to stick to the road even in dry conditions. Not their most expensive, but supposed to be good. I put tires on Gump twice and hit the jackpot both times. No idea why, but Gump would stick to the road like a magnet. I want that same feeling of riding on rails and sticking to the road with the wheels on Froggy. I will not be doing any true winter driving, so a more summer type compound would be my choice. Except the summer wheels turn to rocks at common morning temps on the wet side. Michelin might have a good sticky all weather tire clay On Jan 2, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: heating of the rubber compound while driving and cornering with that load. Again, Seattle? Hydroplaning is your worst tire issue! :-) I am sure the road on your side gets warmer and might tax the lesser rubber compounds used in current 14 inch tires. Yes, dry-side summer roads can get a bit warmer, that's for sure. I lost a truck tire in the heat, fully loaded, it destroyed the rear quarter panel. Not to be sneered at, the heat! What has been your solution to tires? Have you mounted any recently, Last set was whatever SWMBA got at Schwab, some Korean krap. 15 still wasn't a huge problem last I looked. The Michelins I put on my 560 were _amazing_, or so I thought, but that was years ago. They're probably shot now, just by age. (I _really_ need to resurrect that car, but things are in the way...) SWMBA's busy racking up the miles on the X5. My current estimate is that it'll be in the 30kmi/year range. I doubt that she'll even do 10% of that on the SL, during toy-car season. The Hakka 7's I put on the X5 are great, the car has not even slipped once since they went on. Not huge snow provocation, yet, but plenty of opportunity already, especially on the ski trips. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
When I bought tires at Costco for the 300SD the guy made me sign a waiver as the tires available were not the proper (speed) rating. He explained it had more to do with their ability to handle a big heavy car thrashing around and do it according to the intent of the MB engineers. For general driving it would not be an issue, but perhaps in some evasive maneuvering the tires/car might not perform as the car was designed. Since the proper tires either are not available for a 29yo car, or would cost gobs of money, I think it is a reasonable tradeoff. --R On 1/2/13 10:08 PM, Craig wrote: On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 19:03:58 -0800 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I suspect the 16 inch wheels will remain a viable option for at least two tire cycles to be able to fit a V rated or H rated sticky tire. Forgive my asking, but where in the greater Seattle area are you ever going to be able to drive fast enough to notice the difference? The speed rating affects not only how fast one can run the tire but also the stiffness of the sidewall. If Clay thrashes his car through the corners, he might notice a difference. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Was: The Star back issue Now: '68 250S
I am just looking to get as much information as possible about the Zenith 35/40 carbs. In a moment of what can be best described as 'insanity', I purchased a medium red '68 250S. Good solid car, but it wasn't running right. Replaced accelerator pumps, checked and adjusted chokes, but we could not get it to idle. Even tried the lacquer thinner, but it would only idle with full choke. So off to the carb shop they went, and I put the car into storage until the spring thaw. At that time, I will be completely doing the fuel tank and lines, the brake system, power steering system, and I might even try and re-install the AC. Jon PS: In the meantime, I came across a '69 280SE locally with a seized engine which I have for a parts car. I am lucky that my wife is a very patient woman! On Jan 2, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: You should email Jaime - I think he had the articles as well as a writeup he did a while back. Is there something specific you have questions about? Dan On Jan 2, 2013, at 3:27 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Jon, I have all Star mags dating back to 1996 over in Maine. I'll be there in a few days and can photocopy and mail to you if you're in Texas. I can probably also photograph and email to you. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: I am looking for a May/June 2001...specifically the article about the Zenith 35/40 carbs. A photocopy would be great or I'll pay postage back and forth. Thanks, Jon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
Rich Thomas wrote: When I bought tires at Costco for the 300SD the guy made me sign a waiver as the tires available were not the proper (speed) rating. He explained it had more to do with their ability to handle a big heavy car thrashing around and do it according to the intent of the MB engineers. A little extra air pressure helps that, and reduces rolling resistance. I've been running 38-40psi in the E320. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. Had me looking for the Facebook like button. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 09:43:54 -0500 Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. And that's $23.50 less than Adsit wants for used wheels! Way to go, Rusty!!! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was: The Star back issue Now: '68 250S
On Jan 3, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: In the meantime, I came across a '69 280SE locally with a seized engine which I have for a parts car. I am lucky that my wife is a very patient woman! If you want to try her patience even more, you can come back to Chicago-land and pick up another 280SE. 1970 Mercedes 280SE 108 Body 6 Cylinder Fuel Injected $2800 http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/3512088271.html Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was: The Star back issue Now: '68 250S
I'm waiting for Kaleb's token lowball offer here Nice car. I had a 1970 280S that was a real beauty. 40k on it, one owner, still had the protective plastic on the sun visors and passenger side map pocket. No AC, which was a killer down here, as these things are like greenhouses with all the glass. It had dual Zeniths which ran quite well. Mileage still sucked, but it always did on the carbureted models. Dan On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Jan 3, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: In the meantime, I came across a '69 280SE locally with a seized engine which I have for a parts car. I am lucky that my wife is a very patient woman! If you want to try her patience even more, you can come back to Chicago-land and pick up another 280SE. 1970 Mercedes 280SE 108 Body 6 Cylinder Fuel Injected $2800 http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/3512088271.html Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of cars torched in French New Year 'tradition'
The country might be civilized, (or not), but the un-employeed youth are not. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:02 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: Interior Minister Manuel Valls said Tuesday that 1,193 vehicles were torched by French youths overnight in what has become a dubious New Year's Eve tradition. Hundreds of empty, parked cars go up in flames in France each New Year's Eve, set afire by young revelers, a much lamented tradition that remained intact this year with 1,193 vehicles burned, Interior Minister Manuel Valls said Tuesday. His announcement was the first time in three years that such figures have been released. The conservative government of former President Nicolas Sarkozy had decided to stop publishing them in a bid to reduce the crime -- and not play into the hands of car-torching youths who try to outdo each other. France's current Socialist government decided otherwise, deeming total transparency the best method, and the rate of burned cars apparently remained steady. On Dec. 31, 2009, the last public figure available, 1,147 vehicles were burned. Like many countries, France sees cars set on fire during the year for many reasons, including gangs hiding clues of their crimes and people making false insurance claims. But car-torching took a new step in France when it became a way to mark the arrival of the New Year. The practice reportedly began in earnest among youths -- often in poor neighborhoods -- in the 1990s in the region around Strasbourg in eastern France. It also became a voice of protest during the fiery unrest by despairing youths from housing projects that swept France in the fall of 2005. At the time, police counted 8,810 vehicles burned in less than three weeks. Yet even then, cars were not burned in big cities like Paris, and that remained the case this New Year's Eve. Minister Valls said the Paris suburban region of Seine-Saint-Denis, where the 2005 unrest started, led the nation for torched cars, followed by two eastern regions around Strasbourg. For some, the decision to tell the public how many cars have been burned on New Year's Eve is a mistake. Bruno Beschizza, the national secretary for security matters in Sarkozy's UMP party, said on iTele TV that publishing the numbers motivates youths to commit such crimes. We know that neighborhoods compete, he said. Gang rivalries center on who can torch the most cars, with claims made on social networks like Facebook and Twitter, he said. http://www.france24.com/en/**20130102-hundreds-cars-** torched-french-new-year-**traditionhttp://www.france24.com/en/20130102-hundreds-cars-torched-french-new-year-tradition France is a civilized country? __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
Craig wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 09:43:54 -0500 Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. And that's $23.50 less than Adsit wants for used wheels! What about 2104010602? I didn't even think of new, perhaps foolishly, when I bought one for $70 last month. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was: The Star back issue Now: '68 250S
I have a 72 280SE 4.5L you can have for the effort of removing it from my back drive. Rusty, interior shot, spare 74 engine. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was: The Star back issue Now: '68 250S
Milage wasn't any better on the injected models, in fact with a heavy foot it's usually worse. Best I ever got on the 280 SE 4.5 was 17 on the highway, typically in town it was 14 at best, as low as 11. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was: The Star back issue Now: '68 250S
Does your 4.5 still have the rear axle installed? Where are you located? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: I have a 72 280SE 4.5L you can have for the effort of removing it from my back drive. Rusty, interior shot, spare 74 engine. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
$300.00 new. :( Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 12:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades Craig wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 09:43:54 -0500 Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. And that's $23.50 less than Adsit wants for used wheels! What about 2104010602? I didn't even think of new, perhaps foolishly, when I bought one for $70 last month. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Ignition Lock Cylinder
I did. Works great!THey all wear out... Eldest son says ignition is getting sketchy, whereas he has to jiggle the key to get the cylinder to turn. I wasn't aware that lock cylinders acted up in the 124s. Should we be ordering a replacement from the Q before it totally fails? Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Ignition Lock Cylinder
I used a small allen out of my balldriver set of allen wrenches. (bondhus) A few seconds job with the right tool and if you catch it before it really hangs up. Then, if you can't get lucky and have a tool such as a vibrating sander work its magic, it could be an $800-$900 stealer cutting job. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Ignition Lock Cylinder I replaced mine last year - the good news is, it's not a difficult job - everything went exactly like the directions said. I made a tool from an old metal coat hanger and that did the trick - I had tried using a jumbo paper clip but it must not have been strong enough as the coat hanger worked easily. Got mine from Rusty with a new key to match the original key after I provided my title and photo ID. Price was very reasonable as usual... LarryT 91 300D 2.5T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 14 Tires (tahrs)?
Discount Tires has Michelin Destiny and Kumho Solus in 14 inch. These are not adequate for your application? They work fine for me. The Michelins are a bit better. Right now the Michelin Defender is the only tire they have in stock for my 123's. Seems adequate though. http://m.discounttire.com/dtcs/findTireDetail.do?c=7rcz=46368ar=70rf=truerd=14rc=INPINTcs=205dVeh=dVehra=searchTiresByVehicleAndSize.dotc=MMIPA1yr=1985pc=34286vid=000686sw=false Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:10:42 -0500 Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: $300.00 new. :( Mitch wrote: What about 2104010602? I didn't even think of new, perhaps foolishly, when I bought one for $70 last month. What about 210 204 06 02? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Secret message for Mitch byda9uja
On Jan 3, 2013 5:38 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I used to want a 2000-2003 wagon for the ESP, until I realized the 98-99 models had more ground clearance. Now I want a 1999 with the ESP option. Decisions, decisions... I have been looking half-seriously for a 2000-up E430 4Matic sedan, but they do seem to be awfully low to the ground compared to, say, a Subaru Legacy. I wish the spoilers and side skirts were optional. I guess MBNA figures if you want AWD and ground clearance you should be buying an ML. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of cars torched in French New Year 'tradition'
These articles do not mention the details of the youths. If there were some demographic data the picture would become more clear. --R On 1/3/13 12:01 PM, OK Don wrote: The country might be civilized, (or not), but the un-employeed youth are not. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 3:02 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: Interior Minister Manuel Valls said Tuesday that 1,193 vehicles were torched by French youths overnight in what has become a dubious New Year's Eve tradition. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Ignition Lock Cylinder
I must admit I was wondering the same thing. Any collective list wisdom out there? Dan I did it on the 123. I am sure it will work on the 124, but I have not done it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Toy show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S2e3C9qYIYfeature=youtu.be --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rust in peace: Haunting pictures of the Belgian 'car graveyard'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2256470/Haunting-pictures-Belgian-car-graveyard-US-soldiers-hid-beautiful-vintage-motors-WWII.html#ixzz2GvnxapSS --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 14 Tires (tahrs)?
Defender is the replacement for the Harmony. I replaced the Pirelli's on my 123 with Harmony's, and I LOVE them. On Jan 3, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: Discount Tires has Michelin Destiny and Kumho Solus in 14 inch. These are not adequate for your application? They work fine for me. The Michelins are a bit better. Right now the Michelin Defender is the only tire they have in stock for my 123's. Seems adequate though. http://m.discounttire.com/dtcs/findTireDetail.do?c=7rcz=46368ar=70rf=truerd=14rc=INPINTcs=205dVeh=dVehra=searchTiresByVehicleAndSize.dotc=MMIPA1yr=1985pc=34286vid=000686sw=false Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT shoes and repair
I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. But, with leather soles they wear out. I just dropped off my favorite Cole Haan shoes for soles and heels it was $65. That seems steep. But, they were the most expensive and most comfortable dress shoes I have ever had. I went ahead and had them do it. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cold starting
My car started this am in 5 degree temps! Kinda surprised considering the all over the place compression readings this September. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold starting
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:20:26 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My car started this am in 5 degree temps! Kinda surprised considering the all over the place compression readings this September. That says the compression must be pretty good. What car is it? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:09:36 -0600 Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. Indeed! Our newest automobile is 17-18 years old. Some of us have 30 year and more old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. From the subject, I thought you were talking about shoes for our cars! Silly me. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! I have a pair of Florsheims I have had for 24 years, though I do not wear them every day. I took them to a shoe repair place in Santa Fe a couple of years ago. That place restitched some of the seams and then resoled them. Unfortunately, in trimming the sole to the size of the shoe, they ground off too much on one of the shoes and the stitching on the toe is already wearing through. With that and the stitching on the top of the shoes failing, I may not have them repaired again. I was given a pair of Bates Uniform Footware shoes and am considering using them as my dress shoes. I just have to figure out how to sterilize them before I start wearing them (not knowing if the fellow from whom I got them had problems with Athlete's foot). The shoe trees I have were a Christmas present 44 years ago. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
From: dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:09:36 -0600 Subject: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. But, with leather soles they wear out. I just dropped off my favorite Cole Haan shoes for soles and heels it was $65. That seems steep. But, they were the most expensive and most comfortable dress shoes I have ever had. I went ahead and had them do it. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! Lt. Don had a FB post the other day on some shoes he bought second hand. I don't think they are dress shoes, but the manufacturer may make some. Going to start breaking in a new pair of shoes tomorrow. My wife got them for $25 from a friend of hers, who was selling them for her son. Never been worn. Pretty heavy but seem to be well constructed and should last a while. Since I'd never heard of the brand (Mephisto) did a little research. Found the exact shoe. Looks like I saved about $400. http://www.shoebuy.com/mephisto-abel/117186 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
My suggestion. If you have found a competent cobbler, in todays marketplace, give him a huge tip, adopt him/her as your long lost child, and NEVER let them move away or retire. Well built shoes are becoming more rare every day. People to repair them properly and keep them well built are even more rare. Good Luck !! Grant.. Who walks on his feet still most days. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. But, with leather soles they wear out. I just dropped off my favorite Cole Haan shoes for soles and heels it was $65. That seems steep. But, they were the most expensive and most comfortable dress shoes I have ever had. I went ahead and had them do it. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
I've enjoyed my Mephistos. My advise is to get quality repairs when needed. In my case they last longer than several pairs of cheaper shoes before they need any repairs. I was not happy with their sandals but the shoes have been fine. On Thursday, January 3, 2013, Craig wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:09:36 -0600 Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.comjavascript:; wrote: I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. Indeed! Our newest automobile is 17-18 years old. Some of us have 30 year and more old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. From the subject, I thought you were talking about shoes for our cars! Silly me. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! I have a pair of Florsheims I have had for 24 years, though I do not wear them every day. I took them to a shoe repair place in Santa Fe a couple of years ago. That place restitched some of the seams and then resoled them. Unfortunately, in trimming the sole to the size of the shoe, they ground off too much on one of the shoes and the stitching on the toe is already wearing through. With that and the stitching on the top of the shoes failing, I may not have them repaired again. I was given a pair of Bates Uniform Footware shoes and am considering using them as my dress shoes. I just have to figure out how to sterilize them before I start wearing them (not knowing if the fellow from whom I got them had problems with Athlete's foot). The shoe trees I have were a Christmas present 44 years ago. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Secret message for Mitch
Alex Chamberlain wrote: How's the AWD S210 dealing with the winter roads up north? Mitch Haley wrote: I've found that my new tires on the back break loose first under throttle application in snow, Maybe there's less weight in the back, causing the back to spin first under throttle? I would expect there to be a strong bias of power to the back wheel when accelerating. If it can dynamically change the bias... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
Two words: Allen Edmonds. My Dad was an A-E guy all of his life, and I often hassled him about his expensive shoes. I grew up and got smart. The trick is to not buy them at list, but wait for the sales. Get on their online mailing list. They had several online sales in the past month, which are now expired. Find one of their retailers in your area and get fitted so you know your size - this saves a lot of hassles with having to guess and return shoes purchased online. I wouldn't even have a lot of qualms about buying them at list. Here's why: I have 6-7 pairs of A-E shoes in my closet right now. I have two more that they refused to recraft, mainly because of their age. Of the pairs I still wear, the NEWEST pair was purchased in 1996, with the others ranging in age all the way back to 1991-2 or thereabouts. I had the privilege of living in Port Washington, WI, where A-Es are made. If you're lucky enough to be in the area, the first week of July is their tent sale. This is the annual meeting for their salespeople, and they put up a huge tent in front of the plant where they sell discontinued and factory seconds at as much as 50% off. The salespeople staff the tent, so every person you speak to knows the shoes better than any retail store clerk will. The sales people will often point out why a particular shoe is a second, and believe me, the stuff they showed me was imperceptible to me and probably every other person who looked at them. Most of my shoes have been recrafted at least once, which costs around $100 depending on the package you choose. I can take a pair of brown tasseled wingtips I bought in 1994 for around $200 (a $400 shoe new) and add in the recrafting I had done around 2001 and I have a shoe that cost me $300 that has lasted close to 20 years (and is still going.) I do want some new black loafers and maybe another brown shoe, so I am planning on making a trip to Port Washington in July. As far as I'm concerned, it's money well spent. On a related note, one of the finest shoe repair guys in the nation is about 40 minutes away from me in Lakeland, FL. He recrafted one of my pairs of A-Es for the same price and did a fantastic job. I highly recommend him for any serious shoe repair. http://www.mcfarlandsshoerepair.net/ Dan On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Donald Snook wrote: I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. But, with leather soles they wear out. I just dropped off my favorite Cole Haan shoes for soles and heels it was $65. That seems steep. But, they were the most expensive and most comfortable dress shoes I have ever had. I went ahead and had them do it. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:12:32 -0700 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I've enjoyed my Mephistos. My advise is to get quality repairs when needed. Aye, and there's the rub! How do you know who does quality repairs before you have them repair your shoes? In my case they last longer than several pairs of cheaper shoes before they need any repairs. I was not happy with their sandals but the shoes have been fine. That's good to know. I checked out the Bates on the website Rick mentioned and found they are $114.95, while the Mephisto Abels are $429.95. For right now, being unemployed, I think I'll stick with the Bates -- they are used but like new. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
What is that? Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 12:26 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:10:42 -0500 Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: $300.00 new. :( Mitch wrote: What about 2104010602? I didn't even think of new, perhaps foolishly, when I bought one for $70 last month. What about 210 204 06 02? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 14 Tires (tahrs)?
Rick Knoble wrote: Discount Tires has Michelin Destiny and Kumho Solus in 14 inch. These are not adequate for your application? They work fine for me. The Michelins are a bit better. Tire rack has a lot of tires in 185/70-14 and 195/70-14, but only five in 205/70-14. All the tires they sell in those sizes are Q (snow), S and T speed rated. I was rather surprised they had nothing in H rating. Altimax RT in 98T - extra load rating are probably a good all around choice for $71 plus shipping for 205/70 tires. However, stepping up to late W126 wheels and 205/65-15 tires finds 55 models available, at prices starting at $63 for Fuzion H rated touring tires. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearchResults.jsp?customSizeSearch=width=205%2Fratio=65diameter=15 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
I couldn't make sense of that number, or any number with 204 as the 4th-6th digits. Mitch. PS, does Craig want that 2126i? Rusty Cullens wrote: What is that? What about 210 204 06 02? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
Do you ever waltz in them? --R On 1/3/13 2:12 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: I've enjoyed my Mephistos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold starting
82 240D. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:20:26 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My car started this am in 5 degree temps! Kinda surprised considering the all over the place compression readings this September. That says the compression must be pretty good. What car is it? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. Indeed! Our newest automobile is 17-18 years old. Some of us have 30 year and more old Mercedes. ... The shoe trees I have were a Christmas present 44 years ago. Craig I have a car that turned 40 in 2006. My son has one too. Daughter drives a car as old as she is, and she graduated from HS almost 10 years ago. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
Thank you for the offer. Tom Hanson makes mention that there are 15 inch steel wheels that take hub caps. I want to keep the hub cap look, but have trepidation about investing good cash in rims that will have obsolete tire sizes in a few years. I can buy obsolete tires now for big cash or spend reasonable cash on a larger size tire on a more modern wheel clay On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades I do too. I am in a bind over being able to source a tire that performs to the design specifications of the car. I can put lower speed tires that fit the OEM rim, or upsize to rims that will fit current formulas of rubber.Tom @ Classic center says to put lower grade rubber or purchase, from classic center at great cost, the 15 inch wheels used on the 560SL. I have a budget of $600 to solve this puzzle clay On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I think those wheels will look horrible! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2013, at 3:10 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Had a blow out on right rear, classic center says to use underwhelming tires on stock rims or upsize to a 15inch. Both 14 15 inch are becoming harder to source so I looked at upsize x2, I still need good rubber for Froggy. I was able to pick up some 8 hole 16 inch benz rims. What does the group mind think I will have problems with? 1150 is cast on the front side. 7 1/2 Jx16H2 ET-96 PCD 112 Made in Italy I looked at tire sizes to fit and came up with best seeming to be a 205/60/16 in H rated or V. That would have minimal impact on speedo, which is far off anyway. Are these wheels too fat to fit under the fender? Any other issues I am missing? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
There are still 15 bundts too. But very expensive. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades Thank you for the offer. Tom Hanson makes mention that there are 15 inch steel wheels that take hub caps. I want to keep the hub cap look, but have trepidation about investing good cash in rims that will have obsolete tire sizes in a few years. I can buy obsolete tires now for big cash or spend reasonable cash on a larger size tire on a more modern wheel clay On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades I do too. I am in a bind over being able to source a tire that performs to the design specifications of the car. I can put lower speed tires that fit the OEM rim, or upsize to rims that will fit current formulas of rubber.Tom @ Classic center says to put lower grade rubber or purchase, from classic center at great cost, the 15 inch wheels used on the 560SL. I have a budget of $600 to solve this puzzle clay On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I think those wheels will look horrible! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2013, at 3:10 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Had a blow out on right rear, classic center says to use underwhelming tires on stock rims or upsize to a 15inch. Both 14 15 inch are becoming harder to source so I looked at upsize x2, I still need good rubber for Froggy. I was able to pick up some 8 hole 16 inch benz rims. What does the group mind think I will have problems with? 1150 is cast on the front side. 7 1/2 Jx16H2 ET-96 PCD 112 Made in Italy I looked at tire sizes to fit and came up with best seeming to be a 205/60/16 in H rated or V. That would have minimal impact on speedo, which is far off anyway. Are these wheels too fat to fit under the fender? Any other issues I am missing? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
clay monroe wrote: have trepidation about investing good cash in rims that will have obsolete tire sizes in a few years. I would hope that 205-65-15 will still be common in 2015-2020, but can make no guarantees about the future. Plenty of 'small' cars came with 15 in 2005 when I was last looking at new cars. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
From: dsn...@mtsqh.com I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. But, with leather soles they wear out. I just dropped off my favorite Cole Haan shoes for soles and heels it was $65. That seems steep. But, they were the most expensive and most comfortable dress shoes I have ever had. I went ahead and had them do it. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! --- http://www.gucci.com/us/category/m/men_s_shoes/oxfords___lace_ups Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
My 280SEL is only a 44 year old car. Still a baby. But she gets me to work and home every day. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. Indeed! Our newest automobile is 17-18 years old. Some of us have 30 year and more old Mercedes. ... The shoe trees I have were a Christmas present 44 years ago. Craig I have a car that turned 40 in 2006. My son has one too. Daughter drives a car as old as she is, and she graduated from HS almost 10 years ago. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
I like the rubber thong flip flops for $185.00 you can get at K-Mart for $2.95 Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Archer Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair From: dsn...@mtsqh.com I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. But, with leather soles they wear out. I just dropped off my favorite Cole Haan shoes for soles and heels it was $65. That seems steep. But, they were the most expensive and most comfortable dress shoes I have ever had. I went ahead and had them do it. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! --- http://www.gucci.com/us/category/m/men_s_shoes/oxfords___lace_ups Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 14 Tires (tahrs)?
When I enter the specific car data, the site comes back with no tire capable of meeting the requirements. Special order, but the Discount boys are not stocking appropriate rubber online. Not even in Plus 2 clay On Jan 3, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Rick Knoble wrote: Discount Tires has Michelin Destiny and Kumho Solus in 14 inch. These are not adequate for your application? They work fine for me. The Michelins are a bit better. Right now the Michelin Defender is the only tire they have in stock for my 123's. Seems adequate though. http://m.discounttire.com/dtcs/findTireDetail.do?c=7rcz=46368ar=70rf=truerd=14rc=INPINTcs=205dVeh=dVehra=searchTiresByVehicleAndSize.dotc=MMIPA1yr=1985pc=34286vid=000686sw=false Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
I am a cheap SOB, so not ready to put good cash out the door for bigger wheels and then more rubber. Bundts could probably be found used that I can refurb if I want to wait. New rims are too far out of budget and the compromise of bucket of cash to make the car look wrong versus bucket of cash to keep it original are what I am facing today. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: There are still 15 bundts too. But very expensive. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades Thank you for the offer. Tom Hanson makes mention that there are 15 inch steel wheels that take hub caps. I want to keep the hub cap look, but have trepidation about investing good cash in rims that will have obsolete tire sizes in a few years. I can buy obsolete tires now for big cash or spend reasonable cash on a larger size tire on a more modern wheel clay On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades I do too. I am in a bind over being able to source a tire that performs to the design specifications of the car. I can put lower speed tires that fit the OEM rim, or upsize to rims that will fit current formulas of rubber.Tom @ Classic center says to put lower grade rubber or purchase, from classic center at great cost, the 15 inch wheels used on the 560SL. I have a budget of $600 to solve this puzzle clay On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I think those wheels will look horrible! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2013, at 3:10 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Had a blow out on right rear, classic center says to use underwhelming tires on stock rims or upsize to a 15inch. Both 14 15 inch are becoming harder to source so I looked at upsize x2, I still need good rubber for Froggy. I was able to pick up some 8 hole 16 inch benz rims. What does the group mind think I will have problems with? 1150 is cast on the front side. 7 1/2 Jx16H2 ET-96 PCD 112 Made in Italy I looked at tire sizes to fit and came up with best seeming to be a 205/60/16 in H rated or V. That would have minimal impact on speedo, which is far off anyway. Are these wheels too fat to fit under the fender? Any other issues I am missing? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
I am pretty sure you can find all sorts of tire from any diameter, the trick is to find them with the performance speed ratings needed. The smaller wheel cars of the past decade are probably going to be fine with an S rated tire, which is about the best I can find for the 14. Not good enough for the application I have. SO, you would have to look for expensive vintage/classic tires to keep a 20 year old car rolling. Most of the little toyota or honda cars with small wheels are not expected to stay out of the pull a part after 20 years on the road. clay On Jan 3, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: clay monroe wrote: have trepidation about investing good cash in rims that will have obsolete tire sizes in a few years. I would hope that 205-65-15 will still be common in 2015-2020, but can make no guarantees about the future. Plenty of 'small' cars came with 15 in 2005 when I was last looking at new cars. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
I wonder which of the Mercedes diesel models built between, say, 1995 and 2005 will become as legendary as the 240Ds and the 300Ds; and last 30 to 44 years? Gerry From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com My 280SEL is only a 44 year old car. Still a baby. But she gets me to work and home every day. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. Indeed! Our newest automobile is 17-18 years old. Some of us have 30 year and more old Mercedes. ... The shoe trees I have were a Christmas present 44 years ago. Craig I have a car that turned 40 in 2006. My son has one too. Daughter drives a car as old as she is, and she graduated from HS almost 10 years ago. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2637/5507 - Release Date: 01/03/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
Tch! We Walmart shoppers wouldn't be caught dead in a K-mart. Have you seen our I'm a Walmartian tee shirts? Gerry From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com I like the rubber thong flip flops for $185.00 you can get at K-Mart for $2.95 Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Archer Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair From: dsn...@mtsqh.com I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. But, with leather soles they wear out. I just dropped off my favorite Cole Haan shoes for soles and heels it was $65. That seems steep. But, they were the most expensive and most comfortable dress shoes I have ever had. I went ahead and had them do it. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! --- http://www.gucci.com/us/category/m/men_s_shoes/oxfords___lace_ups Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2637/5507 - Release Date: 01/03/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
No, I only waltz in flip flops. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Do you ever waltz in them? --R On 1/3/13 2:12 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: I've enjoyed my Mephistos. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold starting
Marshall Booth used to say that the best compression check was the ability to start in cold weather. In other words, compression is not a problem for your car, you've just proved that by test. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My car started this am in 5 degree temps! Kinda surprised considering the all over the place compression readings this September. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CL moron of the day
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3515266521.html Ostrich skin seats? REALLY!!?? clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
Not a one. Maybe the CDI engines but probably not until you get to blue tech. The cars are pretty forgettable in design and reliability. When they divested from Chrysler, the quality began to increase to the point it was worth investing in a benz once more. Sadly, they remain nothing special to look at. We like the older ones because we recall seeing them when younger or lusting after them as young adults. Maybe a parent or grandparent had one and we have fond memories. If we think of older folks in a benz now, it is not going to be a diesel and having not spread the diesel engine throughout the line, you do not have the depth of models to chose from. All the benz from that period are E class. The 210 was just ugly clay On Jan 3, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: I wonder which of the Mercedes diesel models built between, say, 1995 and 2005 will become as legendary as the 240Ds and the 300Ds; and last 30 to 44 years? Gerry From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com My 280SEL is only a 44 year old car. Still a baby. But she gets me to work and home every day. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. Indeed! Our newest automobile is 17-18 years old. Some of us have 30 year and more old Mercedes. ... The shoe trees I have were a Christmas present 44 years ago. Craig I have a car that turned 40 in 2006. My son has one too. Daughter drives a car as old as she is, and she graduated from HS almost 10 years ago. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2637/5507 - Release Date: 01/03/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL moron of the day
IF this the car for you please dnt respond please and thank you. ??? On 1/3/2013 6:03 PM, clay monroe wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3515266521.html Ostrich skin seats? REALLY!!?? -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
For the past month or so my battery hasn't been holding a charge very well. It's 8 plus years old so I figured it was failing plus I had to use a booster pack to start it up yesterday. So anyway, I bought a new battery and installed it today. I then drove up to Maine from Boston and at the end of the trip noticed that the instrument cluster lights were dim. I then noticed that the headlights were also dim. Duh, it's a failed alternator. My old battery was probably just fine! Shoulda performed a load test! Time to call the Q. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
OK.hook set, how $$$? On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: There are still 15 bundts too. But very expensive. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades Thank you for the offer. Tom Hanson makes mention that there are 15 inch steel wheels that take hub caps. I want to keep the hub cap look, but have trepidation about investing good cash in rims that will have obsolete tire sizes in a few years. I can buy obsolete tires now for big cash or spend reasonable cash on a larger size tire on a more modern wheel clay On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades I do too. I am in a bind over being able to source a tire that performs to the design specifications of the car. I can put lower speed tires that fit the OEM rim, or upsize to rims that will fit current formulas of rubber.Tom @ Classic center says to put lower grade rubber or purchase, from classic center at great cost, the 15 inch wheels used on the 560SL. I have a budget of $600 to solve this puzzle clay On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I think those wheels will look horrible! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2013, at 3:10 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Had a blow out on right rear, classic center says to use underwhelming tires on stock rims or upsize to a 15inch. Both 14 15 inch are becoming harder to source so I looked at upsize x2, I still need good rubber for Froggy. I was able to pick up some 8 hole 16 inch benz rims. What does the group mind think I will have problems with? 1150 is cast on the front side. 7 1/2 Jx16H2 ET-96 PCD 112 Made in Italy I looked at tire sizes to fit and came up with best seeming to be a 205/60/16 in H rated or V. That would have minimal impact on speedo, which is far off anyway. Are these wheels too fat to fit under the fender? Any other issues I am missing? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
Not really. The battery was probably on its last legs anyway. Figure 5-7 year life for a battery. Prorated warranty covers five years and the last two are gravy if it lives that long. At least that is the life cycle I am getting out of my cars for the most part. Eight years is a long in the tooth battery and ready for exchange. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:22 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: For the past month or so my battery hasn't been holding a charge very well. It's 8 plus years old so I figured it was failing plus I had to use a booster pack to start it up yesterday. So anyway, I bought a new battery and installed it today. I then drove up to Maine from Boston and at the end of the trip noticed that the instrument cluster lights were dim. I then noticed that the headlights were also dim. Duh, it's a failed alternator. My old battery was probably just fine! Shoulda performed a load test! Time to call the Q. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
It would have crapped out in a cold spell anyway, now you (will) have both new. --R On 1/3/13 6:22 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: For the past month or so my battery hasn't been holding a charge very well. It's 8 plus years old so I figured it was failing plus I had to use a booster pack to start it up yesterday. So anyway, I bought a new battery and installed it today. I then drove up to Maine from Boston and at the end of the trip noticed that the instrument cluster lights were dim. I then noticed that the headlights were also dim. Duh, it's a failed alternator. My old battery was probably just fine! Shoulda performed a load test! Time to call the Q. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
Mephisto Flip Flop --R On 1/3/13 5:29 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: No, I only waltz in flip flops. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Do you ever waltz in them? --R On 1/3/13 2:12 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: I've enjoyed my Mephistos. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 14:28:15 -0500 Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Craig wrote: What about 210 204 06 02? What is that? Rusty Cullens Well, I THOUGHT that was the number of the rims we now have on our '95 E320. I went out and checked and saw that the number actually is 210 401 06 02, the same number Mitch inquired about. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
No experience or knowledge of them. For sandals or flip flop hybrids I go with Chacos. I got 4-5 years out of the last pair wearing them all summer long and using them for hiking, etc. Very comfortable. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Mephisto Flip Flop --R On 1/3/13 5:29 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: No, I only waltz in flip flops. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Do you ever waltz in them? --R On 1/3/13 2:12 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: I've enjoyed my Mephistos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
I bought a set of the 15 wheels Tom talks about... they're very nice. I think I paid something like $75 each from my local guy. The wheels are easy, the hub caps are whats hard to find. I'm not sure what I'm going to put them on... maybe my 83 300D in the spring. Jaime On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:34 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Thank you for the offer. Tom Hanson makes mention that there are 15 inch steel wheels that take hub caps. I want to keep the hub cap look, but have trepidation about investing good cash in rims that will have obsolete tire sizes in a few years. I can buy obsolete tires now for big cash or spend reasonable cash on a larger size tire on a more modern wheel clay On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades I do too. I am in a bind over being able to source a tire that performs to the design specifications of the car. I can put lower speed tires that fit the OEM rim, or upsize to rims that will fit current formulas of rubber.Tom @ Classic center says to put lower grade rubber or purchase, from classic center at great cost, the 15 inch wheels used on the 560SL. I have a budget of $600 to solve this puzzle clay On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I think those wheels will look horrible! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2013, at 3:10 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Had a blow out on right rear, classic center says to use underwhelming tires on stock rims or upsize to a 15inch. Both 14 15 inch are becoming harder to source so I looked at upsize x2, I still need good rubber for Froggy. I was able to pick up some 8 hole 16 inch benz rims. What does the group mind think I will have problems with? 1150 is cast on the front side. 7 1/2 Jx16H2 ET-96 PCD 112 Made in Italy I looked at tire sizes to fit and came up with best seeming to be a 205/60/16 in H rated or V. That would have minimal impact on speedo, which is far off anyway. Are these wheels too fat to fit under the fender? Any other issues I am missing? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 18:22:01 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Time to call the Q. Yup, 1-800-741-5252. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL moron of the day
On Jan 3, 2013 3:03 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3515266521.html If it's really what the trunklid says it is, it was worth more before the restoration. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL moron of the day
No to mention that 1975 was probably one of the worst years for that chassis/motor. Dan On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jan 3, 2013 3:03 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3515266521.html If it's really what the trunklid says it is, it was worth more before the restoration. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
Factory or cheap aftermarket? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades I do too. I am in a bind over being able to source a tire that performs to the design specifications of the car. I can put lower speed tires that fit the OEM rim, or upsize to rims that will fit current formulas of rubber.Tom @ Classic center says to put lower grade rubber or purchase, from classic center at great cost, the 15 inch wheels used on the 560SL. I have a budget of $600 to solve this puzzle clay On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I think those wheels will look horrible! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2013, at 3:10 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Had a blow out on right rear, classic center says to use underwhelming tires on stock rims or upsize to a 15inch. Both 14 15 inch are becoming harder to source so I looked at upsize x2, I still need good rubber for Froggy. I was able to pick up some 8 hole 16 inch benz rims. What does the group mind think I will have problems with? 1150 is cast on the front side. 7 1/2 Jx16H2 ET-96 PCD 112 Made in Italy I looked at tire sizes to fit and came up with best seeming to be a 205/60/16 in H rated or V. That would have minimal impact on speedo, which is far off anyway. Are these wheels too fat to fit under the fender? Any other issues I am missing? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was: The Star back issue Now: '68 250S
Southern Indiana. Car still drives, might need a charge on the battery by now. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL moron of the day
Gonna hafta let it go. Wilton - Original Message - From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 6:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] CL moron of the day http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3515266521.html Ostrich skin seats? REALLY!!?? clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
Trying to nurse a battery beyond 7 years is somewhat like trying to nurse that sticking/finiky master switch into turning when you need it most, isn't? Wilton - Original Message - From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes. Not really. The battery was probably on its last legs anyway. Figure 5-7 year life for a battery. Prorated warranty covers five years and the last two are gravy if it lives that long. At least that is the life cycle I am getting out of my cars for the most part. Eight years is a long in the tooth battery and ready for exchange. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:22 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: For the past month or so my battery hasn't been holding a charge very well. It's 8 plus years old so I figured it was failing plus I had to use a booster pack to start it up yesterday. So anyway, I bought a new battery and installed it today. I then drove up to Maine from Boston and at the end of the trip noticed that the instrument cluster lights were dim. I then noticed that the headlights were also dim. Duh, it's a failed alternator. My old battery was probably just fine! Shoulda performed a load test! Time to call the Q. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
Chinese aftermarket that look exactly like the real thing. I have a set on my '91 560SEC and they balanced out just like Genuine as well. I have a very smooth ride and they look great. They come with lugs and center caps which Mercedes does not include at 4 times the price. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sender: Mercedes mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 18:13:02 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades Factory or cheap aftermarket? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades I do too. I am in a bind over being able to source a tire that performs to the design specifications of the car. I can put lower speed tires that fit the OEM rim, or upsize to rims that will fit current formulas of rubber.Tom @ Classic center says to put lower grade rubber or purchase, from classic center at great cost, the 15 inch wheels used on the 560SL. I have a budget of $600 to solve this puzzle clay On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I think those wheels will look horrible! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2013, at 3:10 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Had a blow out on right rear, classic center says to use underwhelming tires on stock rims or upsize to a 15inch. Both 14 15 inch are becoming harder to source so I looked at upsize x2, I still need good rubber for Froggy. I was able to pick up some 8 hole 16 inch benz rims. What does the group mind think I will have problems with? 1150 is cast on the front side. 7 1/2 Jx16H2 ET-96 PCD 112 Made in Italy I looked at tire sizes to fit and came up with best seeming to be a 205/60/16 in H rated or V. That would have minimal impact on speedo, which is far off anyway. Are these wheels too fat to fit under the fender? Any other issues I am missing? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
Lessee - Edmunds, Dan sez are made in USA. Where are the rest of these famous shoes made? Mephisto, Bates, Gucci? I wear Red Wing 101 no longer made, made in USA. My sons all wear made in USA Red Wing or made in USA boots from Wesco. Expensive must include enjoyment and lifespan. Inexpensive becomes unaffordable in the end. And, part of affordable includes people like me at work here in USA. No walmartian here. That place does not know the shadow I cast at their doors - nope! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 14 Tires (tahrs)?
Mitch Haley wrote: Altimax RT in 98T - extra load rating are probably a good all around choice for $71 plus shipping for 205/70 tires. I'm quite satisfied. I'm on the second set on my wagon. Since I tend to load it, I wanted the extra load rating. But I don't feel I sacrificed to get the load rating. Oh, and Mitch found them a few years ago when I was looking. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
I used to buy brands like Florsheim and Bush/Nunn, which typically lasted me a year under normal wear in a business environment. Maybe $100 for a good pair, less if I could find them on sale. One of the things about A-Es that can't be quantified is that they never have to break in. That is, they are comfortable from the first time you put them on - no breaking in, no sore back of the heels, etc., that you have with other shoes. I don't know if it's the quality of materials or the way they are made, but this is one part of A-Es that I have never found in another brand of shoes. Allen-Edmonds are made in Port Washington, WI, and Belgium, WI (little town up the road from Port Washington.) Expense is relative. If you take the example I gave on the other list, I have been wearing a shoe that cost me $300 over its life for over 20 years. Do that math. It cost me $15/year. For that I'll pay big $$ up front. Dan On Jan 3, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Lessee - Edmunds, Dan sez are made in USA. Where are the rest of these famous shoes made? Mephisto, Bates, Gucci? I wear Red Wing 101 no longer made, made in USA. My sons all wear made in USA Red Wing or made in USA boots from Wesco. Expensive must include enjoyment and lifespan. Inexpensive becomes unaffordable in the end. And, part of affordable includes people like me at work here in USA. No walmartian here. That place does not know the shadow I cast at their doors - nope! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL moron of the day
On Jan 3, 2013 4:02 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: No to mention that 1975 was probably one of the worst years for that chassis/motor. Not if it's really a 5.0 like the trunklid says. (Gray-market factory special with lightweight body, aluminum engine.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL moron of the day
The 5.0 didn't start til later, so if its a 75 its not a 5.0. What do you dislike about the 75s Dan? I might have just bought a 75 450SL. It was too nice to say no, original owner just died, always garaged, original paint, etc. I was happy it didn't have ACC II, but I'll have to deal with D-jet. Jaime On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Jan 3, 2013 4:02 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: No to mention that 1975 was probably one of the worst years for that chassis/motor. Not if it's really a 5.0 like the trunklid says. (Gray-market factory special with lightweight body, aluminum engine.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 14 Tires (tahrs)?
On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:01 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: When I enter the specific car data, the site comes back with no tire capable of meeting the requirements. Same here, so I look by size. My old Ranger takes 14's also. I put Firestones on it. They are okay. It seems 14 inch tires are being slowly phased out. I guess they don't use enough resources manufacturing them. We have too many natural resources. We need to use them up faster. /sarc. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL moron of the day
On Jan 3, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: What do you dislike about the 75s Dan? If the MB of that era are anything like domestic iron of that era, ugh. Emission controlled, breathless, hp choked, EPA restricted turds they were. IIRC the quickest domestic car in a 1/4 mile acceleration contest wasn't a car at all, it was a Dodge Lil' Red Wagon pickup truck in 1975, or '76. That is part of the good old days I do NOT miss. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes.
Well I guess I don't feel as much of an idiot then:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 7:30 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Trying to nurse a battery beyond 7 years is somewhat like trying to nurse that sticking/finiky master switch into turning when you need it most, isn't? Wilton - Original Message - From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Should have known better- alternator woes. Not really. The battery was probably on its last legs anyway. Figure 5-7 year life for a battery. Prorated warranty covers five years and the last two are gravy if it lives that long. At least that is the life cycle I am getting out of my cars for the most part. Eight years is a long in the tooth battery and ready for exchange. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:22 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: For the past month or so my battery hasn't been holding a charge very well. It's 8 plus years old so I figured it was failing plus I had to use a booster pack to start it up yesterday. So anyway, I bought a new battery and installed it today. I then drove up to Maine from Boston and at the end of the trip noticed that the instrument cluster lights were dim. I then noticed that the headlights were also dim. Duh, it's a failed alternator. My old battery was probably just fine! Shoulda performed a load test! Time to call the Q. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I wear Red Wing 101 no longer made, made in USA. My sons all wear made in USA Red Wing or made in USA boots from Wesco. I wear Redwing boots also. I work in a blue collar job, so they are the boot of choice for me. I refuse to sacrifice my comfort and safety for a few dollars. It's not worth it. They may make shoes for a business environment also. I do recall Dan P. posting that he had a steel toe pair for when he went on the floor of a manufacturing plant in Wisconsin when he worked there. Briggs Stratton, or perhaps Tecumseh, I think. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
I have to concur about the Allen Edmonds. I have a pair in cordovan leather- not the color but the leather apparently made from horse hide or something and let me tell you they are tough! And don't laugh but during my pimpin' days back in Boston during the late 90's, I bought a couple of Gucci shoes. They were also made from cordovan leather. Wow are those shoes tough. I wore them clubbing, to bars, in the rain, snow and sleet and they held up incredibly well- better than the Allen- Edmonds. Looking back, I am horrified at what I paid for those shoes but I now realize that they were a lifetime purchase. I Never have to buy another nice shoe again. For everyday shoes I now pay $20-30 for whatever Timberland shoe is on clearance at the Factory Outlet in Freeport, Maine. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: dsn...@mtsqh.com I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. But, with leather soles they wear out. I just dropped off my favorite Cole Haan shoes for soles and heels it was $65. That seems steep. But, they were the most expensive and most comfortable dress shoes I have ever had. I went ahead and had them do it. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! --- http://www.gucci.com/us/category/m/men_s_shoes/oxfords___lace_ups Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL moron of the day
Yeah, all the mid 70s stuff is a low point in automotive history. Giant bumpers, lots of smog crap. But a 75 still has more power than a late 450, manual climate control. And D jet gives all sorts of ownership challenges, if you like that sort of thing! Jaime On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Jan 3, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: What do you dislike about the 75s Dan? If the MB of that era are anything like domestic iron of that era, ugh. Emission controlled, breathless, hp choked, EPA restricted turds they were. IIRC the quickest domestic car in a 1/4 mile acceleration contest wasn't a car at all, it was a Dodge Lil' Red Wagon pickup truck in 1975, or '76. That is part of the good old days I do NOT miss. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
We had a shoe truck that came to the plant at Kohler once a month. They sold shoes for the employees on the factory floor. I wandered in one time and asked if they had any dress safety shoes, which they did. I bought a pair of black steel toed wing tips. Not sure what brand they were, but I only had to wear them on the factory floor so they got very little wear. There was a union steward who was a real dick to all of the white collar employees. He would walk up and step on the toes of your shoes to see if you were wearing steel toes - if not, he would file a complaint with the safety committee. I told a couple of people I worked with about my new shoes, who then followed me out to the factory floor. Sure enough, Mr. Dick came walking up and stepped on the toe of one of my shoes. He had a really strange look on his face when he realized that I had steel toed shoes. I tossed a shop towel at him and told him he owed me a shine. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:21 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I wear Red Wing 101 no longer made, made in USA. My sons all wear made in USA Red Wing or made in USA boots from Wesco. I wear Redwing boots also. I work in a blue collar job, so they are the boot of choice for me. I refuse to sacrifice my comfort and safety for a few dollars. It's not worth it. They may make shoes for a business environment also. I do recall Dan P. posting that he had a steel toe pair for when he went on the floor of a manufacturing plant in Wisconsin when he worked there. Briggs Stratton, or perhaps Tecumseh, I think. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
This won't fix the tire size issue but some W123 240D and 280E models had steel style wheels in aluminum alloy which take the hubcaps. These are what my 240D has and are actually pretty sought after as many use them as an upgrade for the W113 SLs. If ever you see a 240D in a junkyard, look for these wheels and grab 'em! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:23 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: OK.hook set, how $$$? On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: There are still 15 bundts too. But very expensive. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades Thank you for the offer. Tom Hanson makes mention that there are 15 inch steel wheels that take hub caps. I want to keep the hub cap look, but have trepidation about investing good cash in rims that will have obsolete tire sizes in a few years. I can buy obsolete tires now for big cash or spend reasonable cash on a larger size tire on a more modern wheel clay On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I have the 15 hole 15 wheels new for $125.00 each plus shipping. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay monroe Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades I do too. I am in a bind over being able to source a tire that performs to the design specifications of the car. I can put lower speed tires that fit the OEM rim, or upsize to rims that will fit current formulas of rubber.Tom @ Classic center says to put lower grade rubber or purchase, from classic center at great cost, the 15 inch wheels used on the 560SL. I have a budget of $600 to solve this puzzle clay On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I think those wheels will look horrible! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2013, at 3:10 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Had a blow out on right rear, classic center says to use underwhelming tires on stock rims or upsize to a 15inch. Both 14 15 inch are becoming harder to source so I looked at upsize x2, I still need good rubber for Froggy. I was able to pick up some 8 hole 16 inch benz rims. What does the group mind think I will have problems with? 1150 is cast on the front side. 7 1/2 Jx16H2 ET-96 PCD 112 Made in Italy I looked at tire sizes to fit and came up with best seeming to be a 205/60/16 in H rated or V. That would have minimal impact on speedo, which is far off anyway. Are these wheels too fat to fit under the fender? Any other issues I am missing? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] 14 Tires (tahrs)?
Fmiser wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: Altimax RT in 98T - extra load rating are probably a good all around choice for $71 plus shipping for 205/70 tires. I'm quite satisfied. I'm on the second set on my wagon. Since I tend to load it, I wanted the extra load rating. But I don't feel I sacrificed to get the load rating. How many miles did you get out of the first set? Looks like 205/70-14 are rated 600 A A. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R107 wheel upgrades
My 250LWB had 15 steel wheels. I chose them instead of the 14 bundts that were offered by the seller. I think the car handled and drove a lot better with 15 wheels than the 123s I had previously that had the 14 bundts. Dan On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:51 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: This won't fix the tire size issue but some W123 240D and 280E models had steel style wheels in aluminum alloy which take the hubcaps. These are what my 240D has and are actually pretty sought after as many use them as an upgrade for the W113 SLs. If ever you see a 240D in a junkyard, look for these wheels and grab 'em! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Secret message for Mitch
took off the torn boot, put the new rod on, and I had to drive 950 miles home in a storm with no boot whatsoever on the tie rod. 10,000 miles later my new rod is toast. A baggie and two zip ties would have killed them? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Lock
FYI: Dan, I just replaced my lock (1992 300SD), the cost at the dealer was $1215.00 Walt Lasher Seattle 1992 300SD/S350 Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/50e63e33a66fe3e3337bdst01vuc ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lock
Shoulda called Q Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: W140 w...@juno.com Sender: Mercedes mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 02:27:46 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Lock FYI: Dan, I just replaced my lock (1992 300SD), the cost at the dealer was $1215.00 Walt Lasher Seattle 1992 300SD/S350 Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/50e63e33a66fe3e3337bdst01vuc ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Secret message for Mitch
Jim Cathey wrote: took off the torn boot, put the new rod on, and I had to drive 950 miles home in a storm with no boot whatsoever on the tie rod. 10,000 miles later my new rod is toast. A baggie and two zip ties would have killed them? I thought about trying to wrap it in something, but was in a hurry to get going so I could get some sleep in Cleveland. About an hour and a half later, the rain started in earnest, then snow after it got dark. I would have been happier with a boot torn into two pieces, rather than totally removed. The old tie rod they gave me still had half a boot on it. If the other half was still on the rack it could have shielded the inner joint from direct spray. The agreement was for all old parts to be with the car. When I got home I realized the only thing they'd given me was the inner tie rod with over 1/4 of play in it. I didn't get the transmission conductor plate and valve spring, or even the two extra dipstick tube covers after I had Rusty deliver three of them to the seller. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lock
W140 wrote: FYI: Dan, I just replaced my lock (1992 300SD), the cost at the dealer was $1215.00 Walt Lasher Seattle 1992 300SD/S350 The old one wouldn't unlock? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Block Heater Question
Well the element doesn’t have an infinite life, but with that being said, when I worked in the High Arctic we would leave the vehicles plugged in all the time we were not driving. But just as a matter of economics if you were not going to drive it for a week I would plug it in 24 hours before I started it. You don’t mention the Outside air temperature (OAT) but if economics is not a problem and your talking well below zero I would plug it in and leave it. So to answer your question: The element doesn’t have an infinite life but no, leaving it in for a week shouldn’t hurt. Walt Lasher Seattle W140 300SD/S350 Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/50e6411023a62410f1690st04vuc ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
