Re: [MBZ] 15cm of hose: was - OT Cold weather issues
Yeah, in stock things seem to be flexible. But when ordering a rarely used hose from Germany, things are a bit different. My parts man told me it came in yesterday... I'll pick it up this morning. I can't beat that service, I don't even pay for shipping. Regarding steering boxes... I went through quite an ordeal last year trying to get a properly rebuilt one from several rebuilders, and they were all terrible. I went as far as to get one of the guys on the phone to see what was going on and found that they were not even using the factory tools to do the final adjustment. This so-called expert with years of experience thought he could adjustment them by hand. I even bought the tools and rebuilt one myself to understand the process. What I learned was that once the box is worn, you can't rebuilt to be as tight as an original one. Its just not possible. If you're lucky and get a box that was not worn out to begin with, then a rebuild will be successful. I bought a rebuild box a few years ago for a W123 that was like this and it was pretty good. But this seems rare. I ended up going with an MB rebuild and I'm still blown away by how it feels each time I drive the car. People like to say that up to 20mm of play in the wheel is normal. It may be with in acceptable wear, but its not how a box should be when new. This box is perfectly tight and has the precise steering of a new car. If you have the budget and plan to keep the car for a long time, I recommend this route. Jaime On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:44 PM, M G trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: According to my local MB dealer those short pieces of hose are now once again available. You no longer have to buy the whole meter long piece. That is of course if you absolutely need it right now and the dealer has it in stock , which is doubtful. Much easier and quicker to go with Rusty. BTW Rusty, Are steering gear boxes for an 81 W126 still available and how much? Manfred Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 22:21:10 -0600 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 15cm of hose: was - OT Cold weather issues but the thermostat bypass hose on a later model OM616 or OM617 is the same sort of deal where MBUSA sells only 1 m, but Rusty is nice enough to cut as sell it in small pieces. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1959 190D Bio Diesel
Check out BAT (Bring a Trailer) today for a crazy 1959 190D set up for racing and bio diesel. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Glow plug reamer
Is there an alternative to using the reamer tool when changing GP's? Do I recall some old discussions on here about a dowel rod? This is for an OM617. Thanks. Dwight Giles 1982 300CD 1990 300D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] steering boxes
up to 20mm of play in the wheel is 'normal'. That's one of the factors that made me wonder if my ratty 200D's indicated 50-odd kmi might not have been correct. The steering feels better than on _any_ of our other MB's. OTOH, it's the only one without power steering, so who knows. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug reamer
Is there an alternative to using the reamer tool when changing GP's? Hammer an old dead GP flat on the end and use that. Ahh, the BFH. Miracle tool of the ages... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug reamer
Dwight Giles wrote: Is there an alternative to using the reamer tool when changing GP's? Do I recall some old discussions on here about a dowel rod? This is for an OM617. The method I recall is pounding an old GP with a hammer until it's just narrow enough to fit back in the hole, and screwing it in to ream the prechamber. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Manual
The tarp on my air conditioner which stayed in place through Superstorm Sandy finally came off during yesterday's wind. The thin bungee straps that came on it lost their stretch, I tied a loop in one and attached a bungee cord, all better. -Curt Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 08:48:00 -0500 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 123 Manual Message-ID: 6d101675-fee2-493e-bffd-561fd7559...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dimitri, Is the roof still on your housemine is. Gotta love those 50-60mph gusts! BTW, may I borrow your manual if you are not using it? Jon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1959 190D Bio Diesel
BZ, that's a WVO car, not BioD. BIG difference. I quote from the eBay add: Own the first car to ever compete in an international road race using waste cooking oil (WCO) or Biodiesel!! WRONG! WVO/WCO ≠ biodiesel. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (160,xxx mi) On 2/1/2013 7:29 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Check out BAT (Bring a Trailer) today for a crazy 1959 190D set up for racing and bio diesel. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1959 190D Bio Diesel
yes, there's much misunderstanding about Biofuels, but to be fair, that statement could mean that he ran it on WVO some of the time and on BioDiesel some of the time. cheers! e On 01/Feb/13 07:56, Benz Hogs wrote: BZ, that's a WVO car, not BioD. BIG difference. I quote from the eBay add: Own the first car to ever compete in an international road race using waste cooking oil (WCO) or Biodiesel!! WRONG! WVO/WCO ? biodiesel. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (160,xxx mi) On 2/1/2013 7:29 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Check out BAT (Bring a Trailer) today for a crazy 1959 190D set up for racing and bio diesel. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1959 190D Bio Diesel
No Luther, not wrong! Just because it has a setup for wvo does not mean you cannot run dino or bio-diesel. This, oh my god, it's a wvo car and is now useless for anything else type of thinking is absurd. Mike On Feb 1, 2013 10:56 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: BZ, that's a WVO car, not BioD. BIG difference. I quote from the eBay add: Own the first car to ever compete in an international road race using waste cooking oil (WCO) or Biodiesel!! WRONG! WVO/WCO ≠ biodiesel. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (160,xxx mi) On 2/1/2013 7:29 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Check out BAT (Bring a Trailer) today for a crazy 1959 190D set up for racing and bio diesel. Dan Sent from my iPad __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low mileage '86 300SDL, but nearly $14K?
I said it LOOKS boring. I have never driven one. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Spotted this one on Denver Craigslist. It just turned 100K miles. http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/3585621072.html Insanity! Kevin in LaPorte, CO An SDL is hardly boring.If an SDL is boring, then what are the lexi, infinini, toada, datsoon, and all the rest of the japanese, korean etc transpo-appliances? I'd sure pay 14k for this before I'd pay that for a riceburner or a piece of deetriot iron. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux destroys Samsung laptop
On 31/01/2013 9:53 PM, Dieselhead wrote: How to destroy a brand-new Samsung laptop: Boot Linux on it Linux users accidentally bricked their new Samsung laptops by booting their favourite open-source OS on the shiny computers. A kernel driver for the Sammy machines crashes when users start up from an Ubuntu 12 USB key - although other distributions may be at risk - giving them the dreaded black screen of no activity whatsoever. After the operating system froze, users held down the power button to force the laptops to power off. In some unfortunate cases, when the computers are switched on again, the firmware - stored in a chip soldered to the computer's circuit board - refuses to start up the laptop, effectively ruining the product. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/31/ubuntu_uefi_bricking_samsung_laptops/ Wonder if that is specifically prohibited in the warranty. If not, it should be a warranty issue, I'd think ___ Wonder if MS is behind this??? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low mileage '86 300SDL, but nearly $14K?
On 31/01/2013 10:55 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Spotted this one on Denver Craigslist. It just turned 100K miles. http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/3585621072.html Insanity! Kevin in LaPorte, CO An SDL is hardly boring.If an SDL is boring, then what are the lexi, infinini, toada, datsoon, and all the rest of the japanese, korean etc transpo-appliances? I'd sure pay 14k for this before I'd pay that for a riceburner or a piece of deetriot iron. ___ Is that not the model with the doubtful engine? Not crazy about the interior color. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux destroys Samsung laptop
It is related to the Secure Boot technology utilized by Windows 8. Samsung and Ubuntu are working on resolving it, from what I've heard. Allan Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net writes: Samsung fail. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (160,xxx mi) On 1/31/2013 8:18 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: How to destroy a brand-new Samsung laptop: Boot Linux on it Linux users accidentally bricked their new Samsung laptops by booting their favourite open-source OS on the shiny computers. A kernel driver for the Sammy machines crashes when users start up from an Ubuntu 12 USB key - although other distributions may be at risk - giving them the dreaded black screen of no activity whatsoever. After the operating system froze, users held down the power button to force the laptops to power off. In some unfortunate cases, when the computers are switched on again, the firmware - stored in a chip soldered to the computer's circuit board - refuses to start up the laptop, effectively ruining the product. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/31/ubuntu_uefi_bricking_samsung_laptops/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low mileage '86 300SDL, but nearly $14K?
350SD/SDL, etc., ('90 later) is doubtful engine.
Wilton
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low mileage '86 300SDL, but nearly $14K?
On 31/01/2013 10:55 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
Spotted this one on Denver Craigslist. It just turned 100K miles.
http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/3585621072.html
Insanity!
Kevin in LaPorte, CO
An SDL is hardly boring.If an SDL is boring, then what are the
lexi, infinini, toada, datsoon, and all the rest of the japanese,
korean etc transpo-appliances?
I'd sure pay 14k for this before I'd pay that for a riceburner or a
piece of deetriot iron.
___
Is that not the model with the doubtful engine?
Not crazy about the interior color.
Randy
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Re: [MBZ] 1959 190D Bio Diesel
if i hadn't seen so many badly botched up conversions, i'd be more inclined to agree. part of the problem is that it's hard to know what kind of crap people have run through a car just because its converted. doG knows i won't look at a converted car unless i know firsthand who did the work and (more importantly) how it was used. cheers! e On 01/Feb/13 08:28, Michael Canfield wrote: This, oh my god, it's a wvo car and is now useless for anything else type of thinking is absurd. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low mileage '86 300SDL, but nearly $14K?
On Feb 1, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I said it LOOKS boring. I have never driven one. A while back you said a 1997 e320d I posted looked boring. I tend to agree, so... What doesn't look boring to you? Rick Who likes boring old man cars. Probably because I have become a boring old man. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux destroys Samsung laptop
On Feb 1, 2013, at 10:50 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Wonder if MS is behind this??? M$ helped design a boot system instead of BIOS, so that if it boots any OS other than Windows is trashes the computer, thereby creating a monopoly on OS's? M$ create a monopoly?... Say it ain't so... /sarc Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 15cm of hose: was - OT Cold weather issues
On Feb 1, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I ended up going with an MB rebuild and I'm still blown away by how it feels each time I drive the car. Yeah but IIRC, the MB box you got from MB was, in fact, a brand new NOS part they shipped as a rebuild, yes? Rick Who should be so lucky... Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1959 190D Bio Diesel
There is no scientific research that shows long-term WVO use not causing life-ending damage to a diesel engine. This is a reason no car manufacturers are exploring WVO/VO as a viable fuel source. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (160,xxx mi) On 2/1/2013 10:28 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: No Luther, not wrong! Just because it has a setup for wvo does not mean you cannot run dino or bio-diesel. This, oh my god, it's a wvo car and is now useless for anything else type of thinking is absurd. Mike On Feb 1, 2013 10:56 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: BZ, that's a WVO car, not BioD. BIG difference. I quote from the eBay add: Own the first car to ever compete in an international road race using waste cooking oil (WCO) or Biodiesel!! WRONG! WVO/WCO ≠ biodiesel. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (160,xxx mi) On 2/1/2013 7:29 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Check out BAT (Bring a Trailer) today for a crazy 1959 190D set up for racing and bio diesel. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low mileage '86 300SDL, but nearly $14K?
If a 126 looks boring then just about every Mercedes looks boring Sent from my iPhone On Feb 1, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I said it LOOKS boring. I have never driven one. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Spotted this one on Denver Craigslist. It just turned 100K miles. http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/3585621072.html Insanity! Kevin in LaPorte, CO An SDL is hardly boring.If an SDL is boring, then what are the lexi, infinini, toada, datsoon, and all the rest of the japanese, korean etc transpo-appliances? I'd sure pay 14k for this before I'd pay that for a riceburner or a piece of deetriot iron. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 15cm of hose: was - OT Cold weather issues
Exactly. I wasn't sure how public that info was, but yes, they are brand new boxes. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Feb 1, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I ended up going with an MB rebuild and I'm still blown away by how it feels each time I drive the car. Yeah but IIRC, the MB box you got from MB was, in fact, a brand new NOS part they shipped as a rebuild, yes? Rick Who should be so lucky... Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 15cm of hose: was - OT Cold weather issues
On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't sure how public that info was Sorry... Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low mileage '86 300SDL, but nearly $14K?
Well, it's sort of a panzer-looking gray; that's the boring part. It's such a fine driving/riding machine, though, I could probably get past it's grayness. ;) In the driver's seat, one tends to forget (nor care) what color it is on the outside, anyway, especially one that drives as nicely as a 126. Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low mileage '86 300SDL, but nearly $14K? If a 126 looks boring then just about every Mercedes looks boring Sent from my iPhone On Feb 1, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I said it LOOKS boring. I have never driven one. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Spotted this one on Denver Craigslist. It just turned 100K miles. http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/3585621072.html Insanity! Kevin in LaPorte, CO An SDL is hardly boring.If an SDL is boring, then what are the lexi, infinini, toada, datsoon, and all the rest of the japanese, korean etc transpo-appliances? I'd sure pay 14k for this before I'd pay that for a riceburner or a piece of deetriot iron. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low mileage '86 300SDL, but nearly $14K?
That's easy. W111 coupes, W123s are OK, the new gull wing, maybe some of the 500 SLs. I just don't care much for the exterior styling post 1985. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:59 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Well, it's sort of a panzer-looking gray; that's the boring part. It's such a fine driving/riding machine, though, I could probably get past it's grayness. ;) In the driver's seat, one tends to forget (nor care) what color it is on the outside, anyway, especially one that drives as nicely as a 126. Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low mileage '86 300SDL, but nearly $14K? If a 126 looks boring then just about every Mercedes looks boring Sent from my iPhone On Feb 1, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I said it LOOKS boring. I have never driven one. On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Spotted this one on Denver Craigslist. It just turned 100K miles. http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/3585621072.html Insanity! Kevin in LaPorte, CO An SDL is hardly boring.If an SDL is boring, then what are the lexi, infinini, toada, datsoon, and all the rest of the japanese, korean etc transpo-appliances? I'd sure pay 14k for this before I'd pay that for a riceburner or a piece of deetriot iron. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low mileage '86 300SDL, but nearly $14K?
On 01/02/2013 1:59 PM, WILTON wrote: Well, it's sort of a panzer-looking gray; that's the boring part. It's such a fine driving/riding machine, though, I could probably get past it's grayness. ;) In the driver's seat, one tends to forget (nor care) what color it is on the outside, anyway, especially one that drives as nicely as a 126. Wilton - That boring gray color is stealth mode. You can likely drive it faster than the limit and not get noticed. I know a fellow who bought himself a bright yellow 911 and got a ticket on his way home with it. Cops notice bright yellow sports cars. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low mileage '86 300SDL, but nearly $14K?
On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 16:36:36 -0600 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: That boring gray color is stealth mode. You can likely drive it faster than the limit and not get noticed. I know a fellow who bought himself a bright yellow 911 and got a ticket on his way home with it. Cops notice bright yellow sports cars. And bright red ones, too. I had two Alfa Romeos in college. One was a Ferrari-red two-seater. The other was a powder-blue four-door that looked like a Datsun because Datsun copied the body style (only the front grille was distinctive). Guess which one drew the most attention! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low mileage '86 300SDL, but nearly $14K?
On Feb 1, 2013 11:59 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Well, it's sort of a panzer-looking gray; I've got a stealth-gray one near me that is a bit cheaper: tinyurl.com/a8u8cqd A few more miles, though. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Check engine lignt?
I went out to our '95 E320 to drive down to Albuquerque for a second opinion about my neck problems and saw the Check Engine light on. Not having any other options, we drove down to Albuquerque and back (about 210 miles round trip) without incident. The Check Engine light was still on when we arrived at home. So what causes this light to come on? What will I need to do to fix it? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Check engine lignt?
Usually that means a problem with emissions controls, rarely a problem that is causing damage to engine or transmission. Might be as simple as you gas cap is loose, or an oxygen sensor is failing. You'll need to get whatever error codes are stored to help you with diagnosis. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I went out to our '95 E320 to drive down to Albuquerque for a second opinion about my neck problems and saw the Check Engine light on. Not having any other options, we drove down to Albuquerque and back (about 210 miles round trip) without incident. The Check Engine light was still on when we arrived at home. So what causes this light to come on? What will I need to do to fix it? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug reamer
Isn't the hammer method for the pencil glow plugs? The loop plugs were also used on the 617, and I don't think the hammer method would be very effective, though I could be wrong (again). I only needed to reem a glow plug hole once, in all the plugs I've replaced - YMMV. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: The method I recall is pounding an old GP with a hammer until it's just narrow enough to fit back in the hole, and screwing it in to ream the prechamber. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1959 190D Bio Diesel
Ah, but someone has to try it to get that long term data. How much long term life do you need from a 20-40 year old car? On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: There is no scientific research that shows long-term WVO use not causing life-ending damage to a diesel engine. This is a reason no car manufacturers are exploring WVO/VO as a viable fuel source. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (160,xxx mi) -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low mileage '86 300SDL, but nearly $14K?
On Feb 1, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I had two Alfa Romeos in college. One was a Ferrari-red two-seater. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDlAMjM-77Yfeature=youtube_gdata_player Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks
Update -- Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Cash buyer? You will get a better deal financing, that is where dealers make money Nothing to stop you from paying it off in a month or so. Or you can negotiate a financing deal then switch to cash after you have the price set. Mitch. After harrassing/being harrassed at the Dodge, Chevy, GMC, and two Fords dealers, we placed an order for an F150 this afternoon. It's relatively basic, with a few options due to advancing age, and the 5.0L V8. We expect to drive the value out of this truck, and hope that it will be last car we buy (unless I start playing with cars again someday). The X Partner Plan from our EAA membership helped seal the deal with Ford - saved ~ $2000 based on that $50/year membership. Yes - Ford financing gets another $1500 off the price, with a minimum financed of $10,000. You have to make at least four payments, but the first one can be all but $1000 of the balance. The next three will then be minimal, and carry very little interest. Haven't negotiated the trade-ins yet - the ML320 is still up for grabs. I expect to get offered near the Edmunds trade-in value of $1760 for it. Any offers higher than that? -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Check engine lignt?
The light has come on in our '95 E320 twice over the years. Each time I read out the code and cleared it to see what would happen. The light never came back on, each time in was a different code, and something minor. You can read the code by pressing the little button on the diagnosis connector near the battery. An LED flashes. You can look up the details online, sorry I don't have them handy. Of course, with a 95, there is always the risk of wiring harness problems causing all sorts of erratic behavior, so keep that in mind. Good luck, Jaime On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I went out to our '95 E320 to drive down to Albuquerque for a second opinion about my neck problems and saw the Check Engine light on. Not having any other options, we drove down to Albuquerque and back (about 210 miles round trip) without incident. The Check Engine light was still on when we arrived at home. So what causes this light to come on? What will I need to do to fix it? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1959 190D Bio Diesel
Exactly. Say you buy a car run on wvo but with very good service history, or you buy a car that has never seen wvo but has poor service history, either way , it is a used car and it is up to you to check it out and make sure it is a good car before you lay down your cash. Maybe the previous owner tells you it was never run on wvo but had straight waste grease dumped in the tank and run that way with no conversion... You are buying a 30+ year old car, check it over for defects that you want to deal with. If it has been run on wvo but you can find nothing wrong with it then, like any other used car, why not buy it if the price is right? Mike On Feb 1, 2013 9:11 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, but someone has to try it to get that long term data. How much long term life do you need from a 20-40 year old car? On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: There is no scientific research that shows long-term WVO use not causing life-ending damage to a diesel engine. This is a reason no car manufacturers are exploring WVO/VO as a viable fuel source. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (160,xxx mi) -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low mileage '86 300SDL, but nearly $14K?
Craig wrote: Guess which one drew the most attention! http://bringatrailer.com/2013/01/31/bat-exclusive-1969-alfa-romeo-duetto-1750-spider/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1959 190D Bio Diesel
Years ago I found a university study, a small diesel engine was the test subject. First they took it apart and checked the tolerances, then ran it a number of hours on virgin vegetable oil, then measured the tolerances again. They found significant wear. I think Elsbett or some other after-market proponent of VO fuel worked with VW to see what the best solution was they could build, and the wear was not acceptable. If someone knows of a study that says otherwise, please provide a link. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, but someone has to try it to get that long term data. How much long term life do you need from a 20-40 year old car? On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: There is no scientific research that shows long-term WVO use not causing life-ending damage to a diesel engine. This is a reason no car manufacturers are exploring WVO/VO as a viable fuel source. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (160,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1959 190D Bio Diesel
No study to quote, but comparing the results of studies based on a small Diesel engine and a VW Diesel engine to running the same fuel in a Mercedes Diesel engine like comparing apples to oranges. I'm only hoping that my VW Diesel will last half as long as an MB Diesel would. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Years ago I found a university study, a small diesel engine was the test subject. First they took it apart and checked the tolerances, then ran it a number of hours on virgin vegetable oil, then measured the tolerances again. They found significant wear. I think Elsbett or some other after-market proponent of VO fuel worked with VW to see what the best solution was they could build, and the wear was not acceptable. If someone knows of a study that says otherwise, please provide a link. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Check engine lignt?
The light has come on in our '95 E320 twice over the years. Each time I read out the code and cleared it to see what would happen. The light never came back on, each time in was a different code, and something minor. You can read the code by pressing the little button on the diagnosis connector near the battery. An LED flashes. You can look up the details online, sorry I don't have them handy. Of course, with a 95, there is always the risk of wiring harness problems causing all sorts of erratic behavior, so keep that in mind. Good luck, Jaime Second... My 21 yr old daughter who never touched a wrench got the codes and read and interpreted them. I will see if I can find the codes. Do you know if the engine wiring harness was replaced? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks
What dealer are you messing with? Yes I will probably buy it let me know what you get offered but would have to be soon before I buy something else Sent from my iPhone On Feb 1, 2013, at 8:43 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Update -- Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Cash buyer? You will get a better deal financing, that is where dealers make money Nothing to stop you from paying it off in a month or so. Or you can negotiate a financing deal then switch to cash after you have the price set. Mitch. After harrassing/being harrassed at the Dodge, Chevy, GMC, and two Fords dealers, we placed an order for an F150 this afternoon. It's relatively basic, with a few options due to advancing age, and the 5.0L V8. We expect to drive the value out of this truck, and hope that it will be last car we buy (unless I start playing with cars again someday). The X Partner Plan from our EAA membership helped seal the deal with Ford - saved ~ $2000 based on that $50/year membership. Yes - Ford financing gets another $1500 off the price, with a minimum financed of $10,000. You have to make at least four payments, but the first one can be all but $1000 of the balance. The next three will then be minimal, and carry very little interest. Haven't negotiated the trade-ins yet - the ML320 is still up for grabs. I expect to get offered near the Edmunds trade-in value of $1760 for it. Any offers higher than that? -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1959 190D Bio Diesel
It is also true that some on this list and others that I know if have gotten 40,000 miles or more using WVO as fuel in a 123. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: No study to quote, but comparing the results of studies based on a small Diesel engine and a VW Diesel engine to running the same fuel in a Mercedes Diesel engine like comparing apples to oranges. I'm only hoping that my VW Diesel will last half as long as an MB Diesel would. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Years ago I found a university study, a small diesel engine was the test subject. First they took it apart and checked the tolerances, then ran it a number of hours on virgin vegetable oil, then measured the tolerances again. They found significant wear. I think Elsbett or some other after-market proponent of VO fuel worked with VW to see what the best solution was they could build, and the wear was not acceptable. If someone knows of a study that says otherwise, please provide a link. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Check engine lignt?
On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 21:20:08 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: The light has come on in our '95 E320 twice over the years. Each time I read out the code and cleared it to see what would happen. The light never came back on, each time in was a different code, and something minor. You can read the code by pressing the little button on the diagnosis connector near the battery. An LED flashes. You can look up the details online, sorry I don't have them handy. Of course, with a 95, there is always the risk of wiring harness problems causing all sorts of erratic behavior, so keep that in mind. Good luck, Jaime Second... My 21 yr old daughter who never touched a wrench got the codes and read and interpreted them. I will see if I can find the codes. Do you know if the engine wiring harness was replaced? I have no idea if the harness was replaced or not. I wasn't aware that this was one of the cars affected by that brilliant idea. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1959 190D Bio Diesel
I wouldn't know the difference. Just quoting their copy. Sorry. Dan Sent from my iPad On Feb 1, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: BZ, that's a WVO car, not BioD. BIG difference. I quote from the eBay add: Own the first car to ever compete in an international road race using waste cooking oil (WCO) or Biodiesel!! WRONG! WVO/WCO ≠ biodiesel. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (160,xxx mi) On 2/1/2013 7:29 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Check out BAT (Bring a Trailer) today for a crazy 1959 190D set up for racing and bio diesel. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] pagoda sidemarker delete project
what happened to hendrik? On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Sauber_C9http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauber_C9 Hendrik who doesn't own a M117 On 24/01/13 05:59, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jan 22, 2013 6:56 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: It has a 560 engine mated to a 5 speed manual getrag tranny. The challenge was finding an appropriate bell housing so my friend sourced an ultra rare AMG bell housing which allowed that M117 engine to bolt up to the getrag. Interesting--I wonder what cars AMG built with the M117 and manual tranny (I.e. what did they use that bellhousing for)? Maybe a special order Hammer? Alex __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low mileage '86 300SDL, but nearly $14K?
On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 22:05:35 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Craig wrote: Guess which one drew the most attention! http://bringatrailer.com/2013/01/31/bat-exclusive-1969-alfa-romeo-duetto-1750-spider/ Mine was 10 years earlier than that one. It was a 1959 Giulietta Spyder Veloce. Quite the little sports car. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nasty diesel
Watch out, Max, yours is next. Indy has three 606 engines that have the same issue this week. Two of mine were welded/carboned in. He was going to have to remove the head to get them out, but given that it would triple the repair bill, he spent four hours slowly torquing on them to get them out. The other two E300D were newer and not as lucky. They have heads at the machine shop getting rebuilt. This is a know issue with that engine. Just a matter of time. I have already had the head of this car to gain access to stuck GP. Twice in 10 years dealing with them is a pain. clay On Jan 29, 2013, at 12:23 AM, Max Dillon wrote: I've heard that one of the key steps for removing OM606 glow plugs is to do so on a hot engine. The amount of torque that will result in breaking one off in the head is really low, like 35Nm. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: My nasty diesel is now the E300D. For some reason the glow plugs are not warming. At least two have stopped, so it belches a huge smoke screen of a cold morn. Took it to the car docktor. Same indy who works on Frosch. He called not 20 minutes after I left it for him to patch up in the morning. Since it was there he took a look at it. Leaking seals and fuel all over, dead GPs, more tribulations. Do I want to spend $1500 to repair? Beats spending $25k to replace, but SWMBA is now blaming me for the demise of all tri-star vehicles. Gump, Frosch, and now the car she passed down to me. At least the repair bills for the cars I drive amount to less than three months of her car payments per annum. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jan 27, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: No I got it. Eeeevil projectile projectors and drizzle engines. Here in Patagonia the glaciares started receding 18,000 yr ago, musta been piltdown man driving their milodons around. Muy bien. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jan 27, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I've also seen a couple articles claiming that carbon black soot is causing global warming, and the sources are, of course, diesel engines and coal power plants. Never mind what volcanoes and forest fires generate, they are natural. Only evil humans can be responsible. Also never mind that global temperatures have been flat stable for ten years plus. Rich, you missed the great gun control debate, which only caused two folks to unsubscribe. Might drive away a few more with another round, this time focus on global (non) warming. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I have seen no data. The funding source makes it suspect too. Same story periodically appears, usual variation is that diesel school busses are killing our kids. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jan/27/diesel-engine-fumes-worse-petrol --R (sent from my miniPad) _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] pagoda sidemarker delete project
what happened to hendrik? On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Off digging basements and trenches? it is already Saturday there. He will probably surface Sat or sunday. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Check engine lignt?
On the E320 we had, it was pretty obvious that the engine harness was newer than the rest of the wiring.The throttle plate (can't remember what MB calls it) also has a big war of wires with the self destructing insulation. I had to replace that, but don't remember the codes from the check engine light. I have the old one, because it could be rewired, or re-insulated. On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 21:20:08 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Second... My 21 yr old daughter who never touched a wrench got the codes and read and interpreted them. I will see if I can find the codes. Do you know if the engine wiring harness was replaced? I have no idea if the harness was replaced or not. I wasn't aware that this was one of the cars affected by that brilliant idea. Craig kiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues
I have never been to alaska. All I get are realtor postings and the pix do not show fuel tanks. Given the length of the season, and difficulty in delivery, I would expect to have a 500-700 gallon tank to be able to heat homes. And there are basements in the older homes. Newer ones seem to have been built in the 80's and are split level cookie cutter homes. Even newer ones also are split level, but have been built about as wide as the two car garage and put the living space over that and behind. All without basement. clay On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: No basements in Alaska? In New England most oil tanks live in the basement, no problems with fuel gelling. The folks who have their tanks outside generally live in trailers... -Curt Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:21:04 -0800 From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues Message-ID: 832b9524-ae4a-4ebc-87d0-85196c15f...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A proportion of the NE heats with Citgo and that is underwritten by our buddy Hugo Chavez. When he dies, that subsidy goes away. There is no great use of heating oil in Alaska that I am aware of. Too much freeze to allow it to flow and severe enviro-weenie regulations that do not allow it to be stored under ground anyway. clay On Jan 26, 2013, at 5:51 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: You forget oil. Much of the northeast heats with oil. In older houses here hydronic is pretty common, usually in the form of baseboard hot water though theres still a fair amount of steam around. Its much easier to add (like in my house) baseboard than to run ducts for hot air. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1959 190D Bio Diesel
Out of an old Benz diesel? If properly cared for, greater than 500kmi. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (160,xxx mi) On 2/1/2013 8:11 PM, OK Don wrote: Ah, but someone has to try it to get that long term data. How much long term life do you need from a 20-40 year old car? On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: There is no scientific research that shows long-term WVO use not causing life-ending damage to a diesel engine. This is a reason no car manufacturers are exploring WVO/VO as a viable fuel source. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (160,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues
Given that everybody has signed off on global climate change, the rising water and stronger storms would seem to preclude allowing people to build close to the storm surge zone and expect to be insured against almost guaranteed loss. I would advocate the same inability for people living near rivers that flood constantly expecting to win the lottery every other year when they fail to learn from the lessons of past flooding. Either build so high that you are impacted only once in 75 years, or accept that you will lose everything on an annual basis. This is like complaining that you keep getting raped when you live surrounded at close quarters by serial rapist. clay On Jan 29, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Brian Toscano wrote: The federal government should not be in the business of flood insurance. If State Farm, etc wants to offer flood insurance they can be my guest. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: So you don't think the people who paid their flood insurance premiums should be paid for their loss? On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: If New Jersey wants to rebuild its shore with its own money its fine with me. I lived in New Jersey for over 20 years. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I'm surprised you seem to have so much hate and disgust for the Jersey shore. You've been there? How about the rest of our state? What makes you think we should not be supported by our government during a time of catastrophe like any other part of the country? Jaime On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: The only LUST is by New Jersey government to make sure they have their hands in everyone's pocket. They'll make you spend tens of thousands of dollars for a cup of heating oil. But foolishly allow development on the beach and then demand billions in federal aid when a storm rolls through. The Jersey shore and the rest of that state can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: This is called LUST Leaking Underground Storage Tanks On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know for sure, but the township might have records of these kinds of things. And there are other clues... if there is a newer tank in the basement, where was the old one, for example. I think he had a small patch in the driveway where they worked on the tank, so that probably gave it away. Plus, its common to do a tank scan now with a special metal detector. We just sold our house and the buyer requested one. Our house was heated by natural gas, but was built in 1937. There was no evidence of oil having been used, or not used, so a scan was the final call. It was quite a relief when we passed the test! Jaime On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Jaime, How did they discover the tank and the leak? Disclosure - has there ever been an underground oil tank? I am wondering because I will one day be dealing with a tank that pumped and filled with sand. That tank is under a concrete slab/front porch. The house was converted to natural gas 20 years ago. On Tuesday, January 29, 2013, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Underground heating oil tanks are very common here in northern New Jersey where many houses were built from the 1920s-50s. In many cases, there was no natural gas service available and oil was the best solution. Slowly, all these houses have had their tanks removed. Lucky ones remove them without any event. Unlucky ones have a leaking tank that turns into an environmental disaster. Its enough of a problem here that you can get an insurance policy to protect yourself. We are house shopping now and any house with an underground tank is a big red flag. To buy such a house, its common to request the tank to be removed as a condition of sale. My neighbor in my old neighborhood got really screwed. He had the tank pumped and filled with sand, as was the common practice 10-15 years ago. He passed away and the family tried to sell the house. They can't find any documentation about what was done to the tank. An inspection showed the soil around the tank was contaminated. The sale fell threw, and now the house is in foreclosure because the family just can't deal with the bills. The tank is under the driveway and on the properly line of the neighbors. The property is probably 60 ft wide... extracting the contaminated soil involves pulling up two driveways, working against the foundation of houses, etc. Its a real shame, the house is just beautiful. But its been vacant for two years now and its deteriorating fast. Jaime
Re: [MBZ] More guns
The recent Seattle gun buy back got 720 guns off the street and one stinger launcher. Not counted were the number of guns that were sold to collectors before the cops ran out of gift cards. Civilian buyers offered a bit more per gun and much faster access to the cash, not a card. They also side stepped the mandatory cop data rapine and ID. No paperwork for seller or buyer that way. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jan 30, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 29/01/2013 6:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I thought I would let everyone know I will trade cars for guns. Sent from my iPhone ___ So, is it a good idea to advertise the fact that you are an arm's dealer on the net? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More guns
We are talking about the boys who were having a hooker party in a banana republic while scouting out the lay of the land for POTUS, right? clay On Jan 30, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: BATF is not one of the government agencies whose radar you want to be on, believe me. I think they are worse than the Secret Service in some respects. The SS still has some measure of respect as an honest law enforcement agency (counterfeiting etc). BATFE makes the FBI look honest by comparison. http://cleanupatf.org/ Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1959 190D Bio Diesel
a small diesel engine was the test subject. Direct or indirect injection? I thought one of the main reasons that MB used IDI engines was to better tolerate poor fuel. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low mileage '86 300SDL, but nearly $14K?
I loved my SDL POS for the first 500 miles. Then the curbstoning nigerian's handy work kicked in and bricked the car. Sweet ride, much nicer than the w124 in my estimation. clay On Feb 1, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 31/01/2013 10:55 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Spotted this one on Denver Craigslist. It just turned 100K miles. http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/3585621072.html Insanity! Kevin in LaPorte, CO An SDL is hardly boring.If an SDL is boring, then what are the lexi, infinini, toada, datsoon, and all the rest of the japanese, korean etc transpo-appliances? I'd sure pay 14k for this before I'd pay that for a riceburner or a piece of deetriot iron. ___ Is that not the model with the doubtful engine? Not crazy about the interior color. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Linux destroys Samsung laptop
Apple using intel chips has EFI instead of BIOS. Making a hackintosh out of older iron was a problem, since there was no EFI support. Newer logic board designs switched to use EFI for booting. No idea what M$ got into, but maybe this is the only way they can make the os secure. As it is, you have to buy fresh software from them is your drive croaks, since it is paired to hardware not to the user. clay On Feb 1, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Feb 1, 2013, at 10:50 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Wonder if MS is behind this??? M$ helped design a boot system instead of BIOS, so that if it boots any OS other than Windows is trashes the computer, thereby creating a monopoly on OS's? M$ create a monopoly?... Say it ain't so... /sarc Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1959 190D Bio Diesel
From what I find at PnP, you have it nailed down. The VW will last almost half as long as your MB, unless you crash the car. clay On Feb 1, 2013, at 7:20 PM, OK Don wrote: No study to quote, but comparing the results of studies based on a small Diesel engine and a VW Diesel engine to running the same fuel in a Mercedes Diesel engine like comparing apples to oranges. I'm only hoping that my VW Diesel will last half as long as an MB Diesel would. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Years ago I found a university study, a small diesel engine was the test subject. First they took it apart and checked the tolerances, then ran it a number of hours on virgin vegetable oil, then measured the tolerances again. They found significant wear. I think Elsbett or some other after-market proponent of VO fuel worked with VW to see what the best solution was they could build, and the wear was not acceptable. If someone knows of a study that says otherwise, please provide a link. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1959 190D Bio Diesel
Sorry Luther, these cars are meant to run for at least a million miles, as stated endlessly in countless CL listings. I would expect to be able to do that sort of engine life on any fuel I could find that would detonate on compression. Why do you limit yourself to such low mileage? clay On Feb 1, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Benz Hogs wrote: Out of an old Benz diesel? If properly cared for, greater than 500kmi. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (160,xxx mi) On 2/1/2013 8:11 PM, OK Don wrote: Ah, but someone has to try it to get that long term data. How much long term life do you need from a 20-40 year old car? On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: There is no scientific research that shows long-term WVO use not causing life-ending damage to a diesel engine. This is a reason no car manufacturers are exploring WVO/VO as a viable fuel source. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (160,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues
Houses along at least some parts of the Delaware River have had to be raised. The alternatives are houses that cannot be sold or insured as one might expect. A shame because some are pretty nice. One reason most cemeteries are built on high ground! The ones that didnt either became a mess or were destroyed. Yuk. On Friday, February 1, 2013, clay monroe wrote: Given that everybody has signed off on global climate change, the rising water and stronger storms would seem to preclude allowing people to build close to the storm surge zone and expect to be insured against almost guaranteed loss. I would advocate the same inability for people living near rivers that flood constantly expecting to win the lottery every other year when they fail to learn from the lessons of past flooding. Either build so high that you are impacted only once in 75 years, or accept that you will lose everything on an annual basis. This is like complaining that you keep getting raped when you live surrounded at close quarters by serial rapist. clay On Jan 29, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Brian Toscano wrote: The federal government should not be in the business of flood insurance. If State Farm, etc wants to offer flood insurance they can be my guest. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: So you don't think the people who paid their flood insurance premiums should be paid for their loss? On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: If New Jersey wants to rebuild its shore with its own money its fine with me. I lived in New Jersey for over 20 years. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: I'm surprised you seem to have so much hate and disgust for the Jersey shore. You've been there? How about the rest of our state? What makes you think we should not be supported by our government during a time of catastrophe like any other part of the country? Jaime On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: The only LUST is by New Jersey government to make sure they have their hands in everyone's pocket. They'll make you spend tens of thousands of dollars for a cup of heating oil. But foolishly allow development on the beach and then demand billions in federal aid when a storm rolls through. The Jersey shore and the rest of that state can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: This is called LUST Leaking Underground Storage Tanks On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: I don't know for sure, but the township might have records of these kinds of things. And there are other clues... if there is a newer tank in the basement, where was the old one, for example. I think he had a small patch in the driveway where they worked on the tank, so that probably gave it away. Plus, its common to do a tank scan now with a special metal detector. We just sold our house and the buyer requested one. Our house was heated by natural gas, but was built in 1937. There was no evidence of oil having been used, or not used, so a scan was the final call. It was quite a relief when we passed the test! Jaime On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Jaime, How did they discover the tank and the leak? Disclosure - has there ever been an underground oil tank? I am wondering because I will one day be dealing with a tank that pumped and filled with sand. That tank is under a concrete slab/front porch. The house was converted to natural gas 20 years ago. On Tuesday, January 29, 2013, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Underground heating oil tanks are very common here in northern New Jersey where many houses were built from the 1920s-50s. In many cases, there was no natural gas service available and oil was the best solution. Slowly, all these houses have had their tanks removed. Lucky ones remove them without any event. Unlucky ones have a leaking tank that turns into an environmental disaster. Its enough of a problem here that you can get an insurance policy to protect yourself. We are house shopping now and any house with an underground tank is a big red flag. To buy such a house, its common to request the tank to be removed as a condition of sale. My neighbor in my old neighborhood got really screwed. He had the tank pumped and filled with sand, as was the common practice 10-15 years ago. He passed away and the family tried to sell the house. They can't find
Re: [MBZ] Fwd:OT - nifty folding bicycle
Looks expensive, I've been thinking about building a DIY electric bike. Under 250w you don't need to register it or have a license to ride it. Hendrik who has lots of plans but tonight is off to hunt zombies On 31/01/13 08:14, David Kristin Gilmore wrote: Looks like this would fit in the back of your Mercedes. http://gadgets.feedbox.info/worlds-first-chainless-folding-electric-bike?utm_medium=teaserutm_source=mgidutm_term=7837utm_campaign=exchangeutm_content=1387611#1 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] nice article BUT
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/automobiles/a-mercedes-with-tenure.html the author mentions that the Dr. regretted not getting the car with air conditioning if you look at the photos, the under hood shows an AC compressor with no belt thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
