date:20130619


John Reames wrote:

Why not just switch to using opendns?


That question confused the heck out of me until I looked into it:

http://www.opendns.com/home-solutions/parental-controls

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Re: [MBZ] Trent


What about letting Gary back on the list?  I think its time.

Jaime


WHY?  everybody that wants has his phone number and website.  I am 
sure he subscribed to the list with an alias long ago  ...  if he 
wanted to.


We don't need his bull here.

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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match



I find the endless flow of destructive words by many of you against Gary to
be sickening.  All of you who are guilty of this should be ashamed of
yourself.  You continued to kick a man who was already down.  You believe
one sided stories that don't completely add up.


Seems to me the archives will show an endless flow of destructive 
words originating with the fat blob.


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My way of thinking is that I would not want to deal with such a 
character, even if he had the best price and service, or even 
offered free shipping to Oz.



Hendrik
who only slurs after a few beers


Hear Hear!  Well said!

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[MBZ] letting Gary back on the list?

2013-06-19 Thread G. M. Brown

I'll second that.

 

G. M. Brown

Brevard, NC
  
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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

2013-06-19 Thread Rich Thomas

Well you make some interesting points, but we are talking about car
parts not the guy marrying your daughter, so I am sort of of the mind
that if he can deliver the car parts I need with minimal drama and good
service, then his past or current trash talk and whatever is mostly
irrelevant. He might be whack, but if he delivers stuff I pay for, and
provides some value-add to the selection thereof, he is miles
(kilometers) better than a thief.

But then again I don't have any strong opinions about whatever happened
in the past, whoever's version of it, but to each his own... I do
understand some might be offended or angry or not in tune with the noise.

I have corresponded with our local Sheriff dept guys, they are of the
opinion that the Sterling IL po-pos should be dealing with the guy since
that is where the problem resides, but since they won't one of them said
he would give them a call and try to light a fire under them. It was
also a point of discussion that wire fraud (taking your money over the
phone/net, not refunding, etc.) is a federal interstate crime but the
feds probably don't care, they have bigger fish to fry.

--R

On 6/18/13 8:33 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
Dunno, the way he was talking over at MBworld put me off, stuff like
I am the best parts vendor, blah blah blah
There is being confident in your abilities and aiming to be the best
but as far as declarations of being best, that is done by others.
Plus he was not shy in sinking the slipper into Trent, without knowing
anything about what is going on.

Not a lawyer but Trent could have grounds to sue for slander.
Basically I think Jabba is trying to behave but I can still sense a
bitter and angry man lurking somewhere in the great mass.
Far as I am concerned he showed his level of commitment to us by
basically taking a big dump on his potential customers here. Was there
ever an apology offered?

Guess he is that good he can afford to crap an a few customers.
However end of the day it's up to Kaleb as it doesn't affect me, I
have my little parts dealers over here and as always shipping kills
the deal.
Speaking of which, don't you people have bricks and mortar Euro parts
stores over there? I have two here, which technically are trade only
but I have a business number to show, which is all they care about.

Hendrik
who has included Gary Hursts post on MBworld below, FYI

you may not be so fortunate. i'm thinking this is buymbparts.biz is a
ponzi scheme. basically, a few orders are shipped to prove that it
is a legit business so more money can be brought in. after 3 months,
there is maybe 100,000 dollars in outstanding orders, but that money
will not be in the bank as the flood of chargebacks is expected by the
schemers. so maybe there is 5.000 in the bank for the bank to collect
from and everyone else will be left with a loss.

in other words, your bank may not pay you if they cannot recover the
money from the account it was deposited into when you purchased from
buymbparts.biz. there may not be any money left, so my advice is try
to get what you can ASAP

i founded buymbparts 15 years ago and have watched it get more and
more viciously crooked till it has reached the point where it is at
now. even though i've had nothing to do with this company for many
years now, these are sad days for me. i feel sort of like a parent
whose child has run away from home and now i see him on the nightly
news evolved into a hardened criminal

i know for a fact that there are honest, conscientious and competent
parts vendors out there as i am one myself. i personally believe i'm
the best one out there and many agree with me, but maybe you do not
and ought to buy from someone else. but why would you ever buy from an
outfit such as buymbparts.biz? is trent part of the mercedes community
? does he have any track record at all inmercedesparts
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=10029campid=CAMPAIGNIDcustomid=CUSTOMIDcatId=6000type=2ext=170960925573item=170960925573?
can you find any public record at all about him other than he gets
arrested for drunk driving? why does he look so much better than some
email from nigeria?

it boggles the mind how easily he/they has been able to pull this con
off. hopefully your bank will pay you off even if the money is not
there anymore.

Read
more:http://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w211/295836-beware-buymbparts-com-2.html#ixzz2WcJ9hn8h

On 19/06/13 09:38, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

What about letting Gary back on the list? I think its time.

Jaime

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[MBZ] Gary

2013-06-19 Thread Randy Bennell


I had a very nice response from Gary relating to my issue with the web site.
He very graciously offered to ensure that I would get what I needed.

Given that Rusty is out of the business and Trent does not appear to be 
able to handle it, I hope Gary will be the one who can carry us forward 
with these old cars.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] letting Gary back on the list?

2013-06-19 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel

Give the lad another shot.


On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:02 AM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I'll second that.



 G. M. Brown

 Brevard, NC

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Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve union oring size

I think your memory is correct. I know I saw somewhere that listed 
the size (maybe here?) but I can't recall right now and google is no 
help.


This might be an annoying part in this post-Q world, its available 
from Mercedes Source and Diesel Giant but only as part of a kit and 
at what I'd consider and absurd price. DG wants $25 for the orings 
and copper washers. I think last year Q wanted like $15 for that and 
the springs...


-Curt


Ja, I am trying to adapt to the Post Q world.  Pre-Q, I kept track of 
a lot of things.  With Q, we didn't need to track much.  He knew. 
Now I have to figure out things.


I paid $2.25 for the 7 orings,  I think about $3 for the 6 copper 
seals.  I did not order springs this time.  It is not terribly 
expensive.  Just annoying to get the right parts.


Intake gasket was $12 something. (OM603)

Secret message to John R.  I should have the size figured out by Sat afternoon.

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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

I don't know what happened in the past, either.  'Don't even remember 
hearing so much (nor anything of substance) about it at the time - 'don't 
even know when it was.  'Must have been irrelevant for my needs then and 
certainly is now.  I do remember that Gary has always been very pleasant 
with me and has given me good service.  I do know, too, that we've been 
crapped upon by Rusty's replacement, and Rusty is not to be blamed for that. 
I also know that most of us have old cars (the newer ones, too) that 
occasionally need parts supplied in an honest, timely and dependable manner.


Can't we all just get along, enjoy each other's camaraderie and continue 
to learn and gain from our very diverse experiences without any bickering 
and the tendency to cut one another occasionally?  Having grown up in a 
very large family, though, and having been married for 56 years (+ 4 years 
together before that), I know how things can get a bit testy 
occasionally, but we still love each other and would not really hurt each 
other.


Wilton

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From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match


Well you make some interesting points, but we are talking about car parts 
not the guy marrying your daughter, so I am sort of of the mind that if he 
can deliver the car parts I need with minimal drama and good service, then 
his past or current trash talk and whatever is mostly irrelevant.  He 
might be whack, but if he delivers stuff I pay for, and provides some 
value-add to the selection thereof, he is miles (kilometers) better than a 
thief.


But then again I don't have any strong opinions about whatever happened in 
the past, whoever's version of it, but to each his own... I do understand 
some might be offended or angry or not in tune with the noise.


I have corresponded with our local Sheriff dept guys, they are of the 
opinion that the Sterling IL po-pos should be dealing with the guy since 
that is where the problem resides, but since they won't one of them said 
he would give them a call and try to light a fire under them.  It was also 
a point of discussion that wire fraud (taking your money over the 
phone/net, not refunding, etc.) is a federal interstate crime but the feds 
probably don't care, they have bigger fish to fry.


--R


On 6/18/13 8:33 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
Dunno, the way he was talking over at MBworld put me off, stuff like I 
am the best parts vendor, blah blah blah
There is being confident in your abilities and aiming to be the best but 
as far as declarations of being best, that is done by others.
Plus he was not shy in sinking the slipper into Trent, without knowing 
anything about what is going on.

Not a lawyer but Trent could have grounds to sue for slander.
Basically I think Jabba is trying to behave but I can still sense a 
bitter and angry man lurking somewhere in the great mass.
Far as I am concerned he showed his level of commitment to us by 
basically taking a big dump on his potential customers here. Was there 
ever an apology offered?

Guess he is that good he can afford to crap an a few customers.
However end of the day it's up to Kaleb as it doesn't affect me, I have 
my little parts dealers over here and as always shipping kills the deal.
Speaking of which, don't you people have bricks and mortar Euro parts 
stores over there? I have two here, which technically are trade only but 
I have a business number to show, which is all they care about.


Hendrik
who has included Gary Hursts post on MBworld below, FYI


you may not be so fortunate. i'm thinking this is buymbparts.biz is a 
ponzi scheme. basically, a few orders are shipped to prove that it is a 
legit business so more money can be brought in. after 3 months, there is 
maybe 100,000 dollars in outstanding orders, but that money will not be 
in the bank as the flood of chargebacks is expected by the schemers. so 
maybe there is 5.000 in the bank for the bank to collect from and 
everyone else will be left with a loss.


in other words, your bank may not pay you if they cannot recover the 
money from the account it was deposited into when you purchased from 
buymbparts.biz. there may not be any money left, so my advice is try to 
get what you can ASAP


i founded buymbparts 15 years ago and have watched it get more and more 
viciously crooked till it has reached the point where it is at now. even 
though i've had nothing to do with this company for many years now, these 
are sad days for me. i feel sort of like a parent whose child has run 
away from home and now i see him on the nightly news evolved into a 
hardened criminal


i know for a fact that there are honest, conscientious and competent 
parts vendors out there as i am one myself. i personally believe i'm the 
best one out there and many agree with me, but maybe you do not and ought 
to buy

Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match


I find it amusing that a man that had $17,400 of my American Express deposits 
put into his business checking account and not refund me, would be calling 
anyone a crook. Can you say pot, kettle, black?


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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:36:49 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

Perhaps but the point I was making is that Jabba might be trying to look 
all professional and such but a pro doesn't accuse others of illegal 
activities unless there is some sort of proof.
Basically he has accused Trent of being a crook based on a few 
complaints on internet forums, plus also put a pretty big slur on Rusty.
My way of thinking is that I would not want to deal with such a 
character, even if he had the best price and service, or even offered 
free shipping to Oz.
Perhaps when Okiebenzparts.com gets up and going that great guy and good 
friend Kaleb will do me great deal on a new muffler.

Hendrik
who only slurs after a few beers

On 19/06/13 10:25, Michael Canfield wrote:
 Can't be sued for slander if you are speaking the facts as they are.  Seems
 Jabba the Hursty might be right on the money this time.

 Mike



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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match


Dan, Gary did actually come up with the name buyMBparts, the company however, 
he had nothing to do with. It was operating as Wholesale Parts, Inc. for 2 
years before Gary became involved.




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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

Kaleb wrote:
 I always liked Gary but I think he is still off his rocket a bit. He was 
 talking about how he founded buymbparts 15 years ago. Bs.


Find the archives.
My memory recalls the story of bimby to be that much of the concept
and foundation of online benz parts was not in either Rusty or
Richarde experience.  Gary is the innovator, essentially.  Rusty
(parts biz) and Richarde (online coding) were the vehicles.  Find the
archives in Richarde's basement.

There is nothing about what Gary ever did that should gather a comment
such as off his rocker - that is totally specious and off his
rocker is the fundamentally acceptable manner of the forum in which
the fun was experienced.  Banned is by definition a place where abuse
is expected.  If a person cannot stand the format - banned is not the
place for them.  Abuse at banned is down about 99% which is a
fundamental of its decline.  Gary founded banned that way and lived to
that creedo, most did not like that.  That is not off his rocker in
the least.  Check the archives in richarde's basement.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Finally some good luck

2013-06-19 Thread Fmiser

  Frederick Moir wrote:
 
  I have a 1985 190E instrument cluster gathering dust. ?

 Curt wrote:
 
 Do you suppose the temp gauge is the same? I'd have to liberate it
 from its pod though, that makes me nervous.

The gauge does not easily separate from the left group.  The needle
presumably is press fit to the shaft - but I quit pulling 'cause it
felt like I was at the safe limit and the needle didn't pull off.  So
to swap use a non-W123 in a W123 will involve some effort.

The left group is connected to the right group with soldered wires, so
if a few solder connections make you nervous, then you are probably
best off with the whole cluster.  The speedometer separates easily, so
if the replacement didn't have the one - or the right one - it wouldn't
be difficult to use the rest.

I haven't checked, but I suspect you could even put in a cluster with a
tach - though the tach wouldn't work without other effort.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

2013-06-19 Thread Rick Knoble

 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:31:10 -0500
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 From: 126die...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

I find the endless flow of destructive words by many of you against Gary to
be sickening. All of you who are guilty of this should be ashamed of
yourself. You continued to kick a man who was already down. You believe
one sided stories that don't completely add up.

 Seems to me the archives will show an endless flow of destructive
 words originating with the fat blob.

Posted without comment.

http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=from:%22Gary%20Hurst%22l=mercedes@okiebenz.como=relevancestart=0

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Re: [MBZ] Delivery valve union oring size

2013-06-19 Thread Fmiser

 Dieselhead wrote:
 
 Ja, I am trying to adapt to the Post Q world.  Pre-Q, I kept
 track of a lot of things.  With Q, we didn't need to track much.
 He knew. Now I have to figure out things.
 
 I paid $2.25 for the 7 orings,  I think about $3 for the 6 copper 
 seals.  I did not order springs this time.  It is not terribly 
 expensive.  Just annoying to get the right parts.
 
 Intake gasket was $12 something. (OM603)
 
 Secret message to John R.  I should have the size figured out by
 Sat afternoon.

Post the values to the list, so the archive and those of us
watching can benefit too. *smiles*

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] MPG

2013-06-19 Thread ernest breakfield

thanks; felt good. certainly makes the occasional nuisance of a stuck 
latch or vacuum issue seem insignificant, especially in comparison to 
how much less classy and more fuss many newer vehicles are.
really reinforces the impression that somebody knew what they were 
doing when they were making these things back then. (i'm not nearly as 
enamored with what they're making and/or selling here now.)



cheers!
e


On 17/Jun/13 20:22, Dieselhead wrote:
we typically see ~20MPG in mixed tanks of 'round-town and hwy flying 
while on B99 BioD.


just got back from another thousand-mile weekend,

[snip]


Nice report!  A great car doing what it was meant to do, even if it is 
20-30º warmer in CA than in the Black Forest.


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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

2013-06-19 Thread Fmiser

 Rusty wrote:
 
 It was operating as Wholesale Parts, Inc. for 2 years before Gary
 became involved.

My 'phone list still has it listed under that name...  with a note
next to it indicating the new name.

Guess that makes me an old-timer.  *sigh*

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

2013-06-19 Thread Michael Canfield

I guess I really don't care what happened in the past.  Let's all just let
it go.  If Jabba can supply the parts you need at a good price and in a
timely manner then who really cares what his opinions are?

Most of us shop at Walmart here in the USA.  Most of us agree they have
done some bad things.  Some of us just plain can't afford to shop anywhere
that doesn't provide the best price no matter what has happened.  Rusty is
gone, Trent is gone, I have dealt with Gary when he worked with Rusty with
nothing but excellent service and he seems to be the guy that can do the
job.  Do we have a better choice other than to ask him to curtail his
personal feelings on the list and allow him the chance to provide us with a
convenience we miss?

Mike
On Jun 19, 2013 2:26 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Rusty wrote:
 
  It was operating as Wholesale Parts, Inc. for 2 years before Gary
  became involved.

 My 'phone list still has it listed under that name...  with a note
 next to it indicating the new name.

 Guess that makes me an old-timer.  *sigh*

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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

2013-06-19 Thread dseretakis

All getting along is a difficult thing. Why should Rusty get along with someone 
who will not return 17K of his money? Why should we get along with a Trent who 
has stolen from us?

Personally, I have no gripe with Gary as he has never wronged me. He may be a 
bit wacky, but when it comes to selling car parts he appears to be principled. 
He also seems to be quite knowledgable with respect to older cars. He also 
claims to not sell China crap. I respect that.

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On Jun 19, 2013, at 1:27 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 I don't know what happened in the past, either.  'Don't even remember hearing 
 so much (nor anything of substance) about it at the time - 'don't even know 
 when it was.  'Must have been irrelevant for my needs then and certainly is 
 now.  I do remember that Gary has always been very pleasant with me and has 
 given me good service.  I do know, too, that we've been crapped upon by 
 Rusty's replacement, and Rusty is not to be blamed for that. I also know that 
 most of us have old cars (the newer ones, too) that occasionally need parts 
 supplied in an honest, timely and dependable manner.
 
 Can't we all just get along, enjoy each other's camaraderie and continue to 
 learn and gain from our very diverse experiences without any bickering and 
 the tendency to cut one another occasionally?  Having grown up in a very 
 large family, though, and having been married for 56 years (+ 4 years 
 together before that), I know how things can get a bit testy 
 occasionally, but we still love each other and would not really hurt each 
 other.
 
 Wilton
 
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 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match
 
 
 Well you make some interesting points, but we are talking about car parts 
 not the guy marrying your daughter, so I am sort of of the mind that if he 
 can deliver the car parts I need with minimal drama and good service, then 
 his past or current trash talk and whatever is mostly irrelevant.  He might 
 be whack, but if he delivers stuff I pay for, and provides some value-add to 
 the selection thereof, he is miles (kilometers) better than a thief.
 
 But then again I don't have any strong opinions about whatever happened in 
 the past, whoever's version of it, but to each his own... I do understand 
 some might be offended or angry or not in tune with the noise.
 
 I have corresponded with our local Sheriff dept guys, they are of the 
 opinion that the Sterling IL po-pos should be dealing with the guy since 
 that is where the problem resides, but since they won't one of them said he 
 would give them a call and try to light a fire under them.  It was also a 
 point of discussion that wire fraud (taking your money over the phone/net, 
 not refunding, etc.) is a federal interstate crime but the feds probably 
 don't care, they have bigger fish to fry.
 
 --R
 
 
 On 6/18/13 8:33 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
 Dunno, the way he was talking over at MBworld put me off, stuff like I am 
 the best parts vendor, blah blah blah
 There is being confident in your abilities and aiming to be the best but as 
 far as declarations of being best, that is done by others.
 Plus he was not shy in sinking the slipper into Trent, without knowing 
 anything about what is going on.
 Not a lawyer but Trent could have grounds to sue for slander.
 Basically I think Jabba is trying to behave but I can still sense a bitter 
 and angry man lurking somewhere in the great mass.
 Far as I am concerned he showed his level of commitment to us by basically 
 taking a big dump on his potential customers here. Was there ever an 
 apology offered?
 Guess he is that good he can afford to crap an a few customers.
 However end of the day it's up to Kaleb as it doesn't affect me, I have my 
 little parts dealers over here and as always shipping kills the deal.
 Speaking of which, don't you people have bricks and mortar Euro parts 
 stores over there? I have two here, which technically are trade only but I 
 have a business number to show, which is all they care about.
 
 Hendrik
 who has included Gary Hursts post on MBworld below, FYI
 
 
 you may not be so fortunate. i'm thinking this is buymbparts.biz is a ponzi 
 scheme. basically, a few orders are shipped to prove that it is a legit 
 business so more money can be brought in. after 3 months, there is maybe 
 100,000 dollars in outstanding orders, but that money will not be in the 
 bank as the flood of chargebacks is expected by the schemers. so maybe 
 there is 5.000 in the bank for the bank to collect from and everyone else 
 will be left with a loss.
 
 in other words, your bank may not pay you if they cannot recover the money 
 from the account it was deposited into when you purchased from 
 buymbparts.biz. there may not be any money left, so my advice is try to get 
 what you

Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match ARCHIVE

2013-06-19 Thread Randy Bennell




Boy, now if that is not a lesson that teaches you to be polite and 
reasonable on this list (and elsewhere)  then, what is??


All one has to do is type in a name and one gets the whole history.

Say something petty or stupid and it is there forever.

We should all take note of that.

And, it might be time to switch to an alias like some of you use insetad 
of my own name so it would be harder to pin on me later.


Randy


On 19/06/2013 1:21 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:31:10 -0500
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
From: 126die...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match


I find the endless flow of destructive words by many of you against Gary to
be sickening. All of you who are guilty of this should be ashamed of
yourself. You continued to kick a man who was already down. You believe
one sided stories that don't completely add up.

Seems to me the archives will show an endless flow of destructive
words originating with the fat blob.

Posted without comment.

http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=from:%22Gary%20Hurst%22l=mercedes@okiebenz.como=relevancestart=0

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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

2013-06-19 Thread John Reames

Feds likely won't get involved over less than 75k or so.

Of course if there were enough losses to add up to that...

Or the CC companies started complaining...

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On Jun 19, 2013, at 12:03, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
wrote:

 Well you make some interesting points, but we are talking about car parts not 
 the guy marrying your daughter, so I am sort of of the mind that if he can 
 deliver the car parts I need with minimal drama and good service, then his 
 past or current trash talk and whatever is mostly irrelevant.  He might be 
 whack, but if he delivers stuff I pay for, and provides some value-add to the 
 selection thereof, he is miles (kilometers) better than a thief.
 
 But then again I don't have any strong opinions about whatever happened in 
 the past, whoever's version of it, but to each his own... I do understand 
 some might be offended or angry or not in tune with the noise.
 
 I have corresponded with our local Sheriff dept guys, they are of the opinion 
 that the Sterling IL po-pos should be dealing with the guy since that is 
 where the problem resides, but since they won't one of them said he would 
 give them a call and try to light a fire under them.  It was also a point of 
 discussion that wire fraud (taking your money over the phone/net, not 
 refunding, etc.) is a federal interstate crime but the feds probably don't 
 care, they have bigger fish to fry.
 
 --R
 
 
 On 6/18/13 8:33 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
 Dunno, the way he was talking over at MBworld put me off, stuff like I am 
 the best parts vendor, blah blah blah
 There is being confident in your abilities and aiming to be the best but as 
 far as declarations of being best, that is done by others.
 Plus he was not shy in sinking the slipper into Trent, without knowing 
 anything about what is going on.
 Not a lawyer but Trent could have grounds to sue for slander.
 Basically I think Jabba is trying to behave but I can still sense a bitter 
 and angry man lurking somewhere in the great mass.
 Far as I am concerned he showed his level of commitment to us by basically 
 taking a big dump on his potential customers here. Was there ever an apology 
 offered?
 Guess he is that good he can afford to crap an a few customers.
 However end of the day it's up to Kaleb as it doesn't affect me, I have my 
 little parts dealers over here and as always shipping kills the deal.

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Re: [MBZ] letting Gary back on the list?

2013-06-19 Thread dseretakis

I was for keeping him in a few years ago, but that was because I was never the 
subject of his wrath. Others clearly will feel differently. I actually learned 
quite a bit from the guy. He enlightened me to the advantages of Brad Penn 
motor oil with its high ZDDP levels and high quality. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 19, 2013, at 12:24 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote:

 Give the lad another shot.
 
 
 On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:02 AM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll second that.
 
 
 
 G. M. Brown
 
 Brevard, NC
 
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[MBZ] S600 Guard Edition


http://www.mynameisfoxtrot.com/journal/2013/6/19/testing-a-bullet-resistant-merceds-s600.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: how do I ban a domain from a router?

2013-06-19 Thread John Reames

The difference between this and an ACL is that an ACL will resolve the name to 
IP address(es), then block all connections to those IP addresses, whereas 
opendns will not provide the real IP address in response to the (name lookup) 
query.

This might seem like a small distinction, but with the prevalence of virtual 
hosting (where several domains may resolve to the same IP address), ACL based 
blocking is more prone to collateral damage (unintended blocking of 
legitimate sites that resolve to an IP address that is also used by a blocked 
domain)...



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On Jun 19, 2013, at 8:56, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 John Reames wrote:
 Why not just switch to using opendns?
 
 That question confused the heck out of me until I looked into it:
 
 http://www.opendns.com/home-solutions/parental-controls
 
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Re: [MBZ] Source of new parts

2013-06-19 Thread Dave



 
 Stay tuned, but okiebenz.com might start selling new parts pretty
 soon. It will be a way to pay for the list. Stay tuned.


BBQ required,
Would that make it an Oki-Que??


Dave
Lynnwood, Wa

'82 300CD Making progress, need tars now
'77 240D 437K mi, ugliest car at M$

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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

Though I've tried hard to get along with Trent, I have no more 
expectations of it; 'didn't realize I had suggested such.   ;)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: dsereta...@yahoo.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

All getting along is a difficult thing. Why should Rusty get along with 
someone who will not return 17K of his money? Why should we get along with 
a Trent who has stolen from us?

Personally, I have no gripe with Gary as he has never wronged me. He may 
be a bit wacky, but when it comes to selling car parts he appears to be 
principled. He also seems to be quite knowledgable with respect to older 
cars. He also claims to not sell China crap. I respect that.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 19, 2013, at 1:27 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

I don't know what happened in the past, either.  'Don't even remember 
hearing so much (nor anything of substance) about it at the time - 'don't 
even know when it was.  'Must have been irrelevant for my needs then 
and certainly is now.  I do remember that Gary has always been very 
pleasant with me and has given me good service.  I do know, too, that 
we've been crapped upon by Rusty's replacement, and Rusty is not to be 
blamed for that. I also know that most of us have old cars (the newer 
ones, too) that occasionally need parts supplied in an honest, timely and 
dependable manner.

Can't we all just get along, enjoy each other's camaraderie and 
continue to learn and gain from our very diverse experiences without any 
bickering and the tendency to cut one another occasionally?  Having 
grown up in a very large family, though, and having been married for 56 
years (+ 4 years together before that), I know how things can get a bit 
testy occasionally, but we still love each other and would not really 
hurt each other.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

Well you make some interesting points, but we are talking about car 
parts not the guy marrying your daughter, so I am sort of of the mind 
that if he can deliver the car parts I need with minimal drama and good 
service, then his past or current trash talk and whatever is mostly 
irrelevant.  He might be whack, but if he delivers stuff I pay for, and 
provides some value-add to the selection thereof, he is miles 
(kilometers) better than a thief.

But then again I don't have any strong opinions about whatever happened 
in the past, whoever's version of it, but to each his own... I do 
understand some might be offended or angry or not in tune with the 
noise.

I have corresponded with our local Sheriff dept guys, they are of the 
opinion that the Sterling IL po-pos should be dealing with the guy since 
that is where the problem resides, but since they won't one of them said 
he would give them a call and try to light a fire under them.  It was 
also a point of discussion that wire fraud (taking your money over the 
phone/net, not refunding, etc.) is a federal interstate crime but the 
feds probably don't care, they have bigger fish to fry.

--R

On 6/18/13 8:33 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
Dunno, the way he was talking over at MBworld put me off, stuff like I 
am the best parts vendor, blah blah blah
There is being confident in your abilities and aiming to be the best 
but as far as declarations of being best, that is done by others.
Plus he was not shy in sinking the slipper into Trent, without knowing 
anything about what is going on.

Not a lawyer but Trent could have grounds to sue for slander.
Basically I think Jabba is trying to behave but I can still sense a 
bitter and angry man lurking somewhere in the great mass.
Far as I am concerned he showed his level of commitment to us by 
basically taking a big dump on his potential customers here. Was there 
ever an apology offered?

Guess he is that good he can afford to crap an a few customers.
However end of the day it's up to Kaleb as it doesn't affect me, I have 
my little parts dealers over here and as always shipping kills the 
deal.
Speaking of which, don't you people have bricks and mortar Euro parts 
stores over there? I have two here, which technically are trade only 
but I have a business number to show, which is all they care about.

Hendrik
who has included Gary Hursts post on MBworld below, FYI

you may not be so fortunate. i'm thinking this is buymbparts.biz is a 
ponzi scheme. basically, a few orders are shipped to prove that it is 
a legit business so more money can be brought in. after 3 months, there 
is maybe 100,000 dollars in outstanding orders, but that money will not 
be in the bank as the flood of chargebacks is expected by the schemers. 
so maybe there is 5.000 in the bank for the bank to collect from and

[MBZ] Old Timer was Re: Trent...

2013-06-19 Thread Rick Knoble

On Jun 19, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Guess that makes me an old-timer.  *sigh*


Nah, it just means your address book is just a little out of date. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match


I guess I really don't care what happened in the past.  Let's all just let
it go.  If Jabba can supply the parts you need at a good price and in a
timely manner then who really cares what his opinions are?

Most of us shop at Walmart here in the USA.  Most of us agree they have
done some bad things.  Some of us just plain can't afford to shop anywhere
that doesn't provide the best price no matter what has happened.  Rusty is
gone, Trent is gone, I have dealt with Gary when he worked with Rusty with
nothing but excellent service and he seems to be the guy that can do the
job.  Do we have a better choice other than to ask him to curtail his
personal feelings on the list and allow him the chance to provide us with a
convenience we miss?

Mike
On Jun 19, 2013 2:26 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:


  Rusty wrote:
 
  It was operating as Wholesale Parts, Inc. for 2 years before Gary
  became involved.

 My 'phone list still has it listed under that name...  with a note
 next to it indicating the new name.

 Guess that makes me an old-timer.  *sigh*


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We can order parts form the heap (or not) as we choose; without his 
being un-banned.  Besides, the listmom is working on competing with 
the heap, so why would we want all that venom on the list?


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Re: [MBZ] MPG

thanks; felt good. certainly makes the occasional nuisance of a 
stuck latch or vacuum issue seem insignificant, especially in 
comparison to how much less classy and more fuss many newer vehicles 
are.
really reinforces the impression that somebody knew what they 
were doing when they were making these things back then. (i'm not 
nearly as enamored with what they're making and/or selling here now.)


cheers!
e


Yes, they knew what they were doing back then.  Even in the 50 and 
60s they did well with the technology of the day, and still were 
advanced for the day.  Unfortunately the bowties took over about 1987 
and the old guard engineers retired or were forced into a box.  Other 
than safety, I don't see any appeal of a newish MB over deetriot iron 
or riceburners.  In fact, it is sad to say, but most camries are more 
aesthetically pleasant than ~ 2010+ MBs.


I can say the same for BMW motorsickles too.  /2 and earlier, /5, /6 
and even /7 look nice.  the current crop look like a riceburner, 
except for the ones with jugs hanging out look like riceburners with 
jugs.  Even the early K series could be distinguished on the road as 
a BMW.



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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match ARCHIVE

Randy wrote:
 Say something petty or stupid and it is there forever.

 We should all take note of that.

 And, it might be time to switch to an alias like some of you use insetad of
 my own name so it would be harder to pin on me later.

Yah, well... I use the name maontin.man becuz it was Gary that
knighted me with that name probably a dozen years ago.
Who cares about NSA/PRISM/FBI when we have google as the repository of
all words such as risin and diesel fuel and fertilizer and lets blow
up some big building.
There, archives - have a bunch of #$* fun with that!!
mao

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Re: [MBZ] MPG

2013-06-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel

I owned a silver R26 originally made for export to Switzerland. Single
cylinder beauty I bought for $240 and sold for $290. This was in the late
60s.

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

thanks; felt good. certainly makes the occasional nuisance of a stuck
latch or vacuum issue seem insignificant, especially in comparison to how
much less classy and more fuss many newer vehicles are.
really reinforces the impression that somebody knew what they were
doing when they were making these things back then. (i'm not nearly as
enamored with what they're making and/or selling here now.)

cheers!
e

Yes, they knew what they were doing back then. Even in the 50 and 60s
they did well with the technology of the day, and still were advanced for
the day. Unfortunately the bowties took over about 1987 and the old guard
engineers retired or were forced into a box. Other than safety, I don't
see any appeal of a newish MB over deetriot iron or riceburners. In fact,
it is sad to say, but most camries are more aesthetically pleasant than ~
2010+ MBs.

I can say the same for BMW motorsickles too. /2 and earlier, /5, /6 and
even /7 look nice. the current crop look like a riceburner, except for the
ones with jugs hanging out look like riceburners with jugs. Even the early
K series could be distinguished on the road as a BMW.

All reasons I like 123 240Ds and my /5.

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Re: [MBZ] letting Gary back on the list?

dseretakis wrote:
 I was for keeping him in a few years ago, but that was because I was never 
 the subject of his wrath.


Eh...
Each of us suffer from cancer these days becuz of...
...Hold on a minute...
My risin feedbag just lost its prime - I need a new injection port.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

I can understand your desire for more proof Hendrick.  But this is a pretty
ugly road to go down and certainly doesn't belong here.

What happened in the past is the past.  Its was ugly.  It created a lot of
bad feelings.  It was bad for business, bad for our community, and bad for
many individuals.  None of us will know all the sides of the story and the
details of what happened.  And many of you wouldn't want to hear it.  And
boy how things have changed since then.

My point is simple:  don't believe everything that you've been told from
one side.  You don't believe everything from the extreme right or left talk
radio, do you? (hint: you shouldn't)

Looks like we have more pro-gary folks than anti-gary at this point.  The
anti-gary folks are holding on to a one-sided story In the end and some
hurt feelings about being called some names  Doesn't everyone just want a
reliable source of good parts?  The pro-gary folks are enjoying good
service, good parts, and good knowledge.  Sounds like the kind of guy who
should be part of this group, no?

I understand the loyalty to Rusty in the past.  He did a lot for many of
us, hosted parties, helped establish the sense of community we have here
(or, whats left of it now).  Now Rusty is no longer here for us in that
role due to a business decision that we can all understand.  It was the
right time to move on.  The need for loyalty has past.  In fact, shouldn't
someone be questioning how it is that Rusty came to make a deal with Trent
at all?

I know if I were selling a business, I'd be looking for an agreement that
protected my interests.  And the buyer should do the same.  Check the
books, reputation, relationships, etc.

Something doesn't add to up to me.  I've seen several mentions of Trent
selling for amazingly low prices... genuine parts for more than 40% off of
list.  (which isn't possible, unless you happen to own a Mercedes Benz
Sounded too good to be true.

Jaime



On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well Trent may be acting illegally and he may be a less than honest
 business man, based on what I have read from others experiences.
 However does this give give Gary the right to accuse him of an planned
 scheme to steal and also imply that Rusty has had a part in that?
 That's what a supposed honest businessman has done, accusing someone of
 improper and or illegal dealings without proof. Is this slander?

 The fact is that I stand to gain nothing from this whereas it is in Garys
 interest to discredit his opposition, whether he has proof or just heard a
 few stories does not seem to matter.
 Are these the actions of a professional and supposed good man?
 Sure Gary might be good at what he does, heck he even himself says so, so
 it must be true. Perhaps that is a cultural difference but up here if you
 start going on about how good you are people will think you're a bit of a
 wally.
 I know a few people who will happily spend a few hours telling you how
 good they are and that makes for fascinating conversation.

 I don't know the details of the divorce but I do know it spilt over into
 this list and it turned pretty ugly. And no I can't understand his actions,
 what did this list have to do with the split?
 If I was in his shoes and wanted to sell car parts to owners I would not
 be abusing my customers, instead be dealing with the situation privately,
 basically I think he threw a big tantrum in public, sure it might not have
 been the best part of his life but sometimes you just got walk away and
 cool off for a while.

 The question here is not who started the list or what have you not, the
 point here is that Gary is not a good man, he is bitter individual who is
 hell bent on revenge.
 Of course sure I am making a terrible mistake and Gary is the good guy
 wanting to warn people about the evils of dealing with other parts vendors.
 Yeah right, this is the moment he has been hoping would come along and now
 he is making the most of it, if he was such a good guy why would he say:

 i founded buymbparts 15 years ago and have watched it get more and more
 viciously crooked till it has reached the point where it is at now. even
 though i've had nothing to do with this company for many years now, these
 are sad days for me. i feel sort of like a parent whose child has run away
 from home and now i see him on the nightly news evolved into a hardened
 criminal

 Now that is strong stuff, he does not seem to care about destroying
 someone else or their livelihood (including the reputation of Rusty
 Cullens). What proof does he have of these viciously crooked things? I
 think the only thing he has is his believe that Rusty did the dirty on him,
 which we where all supposed to agree with and when some didn't he turned on
 us in a heart beat but no I got that wrong, Gary is a good guy and we are
 all vicious crooks evolving into hardened criminals.

 If Gary is a good man he should have thought a lot harder about what he

Re: [MBZ] MPG

2013-06-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain

On Jun 19, 2013 12:46 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
  Other than safety, I don't see any appeal of a newish MB over deetriot
iron or riceburners.

Well, safety's important, isn't it?

Also, how about the fact that the basic  controls are still the same as the
old cars (headlights on the dash, washer twist stalk on the left, cruise
above it)?

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

Oops... clicked send too fast.

Anyway, how did Trent offer to sell parts below dealer cost!?  What
happened here?  And what kind of references did we have for this guy?  Who
vouched for him?  Maybe an explanation is in order, no?

Jaime


On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote:

 I can understand your desire for more proof Hendrick.  But this is a
 pretty ugly road to go down and certainly doesn't belong here.

 What happened in the past is the past.  Its was ugly.  It created a lot of
 bad feelings.  It was bad for business, bad for our community, and bad for
 many individuals.  None of us will know all the sides of the story and the
 details of what happened.  And many of you wouldn't want to hear it.  And
 boy how things have changed since then.

 My point is simple:  don't believe everything that you've been told from
 one side.  You don't believe everything from the extreme right or left talk
 radio, do you? (hint: you shouldn't)

 Looks like we have more pro-gary folks than anti-gary at this point.  The
 anti-gary folks are holding on to a one-sided story In the end and some
 hurt feelings about being called some names  Doesn't everyone just want a
 reliable source of good parts?  The pro-gary folks are enjoying good
 service, good parts, and good knowledge.  Sounds like the kind of guy who
 should be part of this group, no?

 I understand the loyalty to Rusty in the past.  He did a lot for many of
 us, hosted parties, helped establish the sense of community we have here
 (or, whats left of it now).  Now Rusty is no longer here for us in that
 role due to a business decision that we can all understand.  It was the
 right time to move on.  The need for loyalty has past.  In fact, shouldn't
 someone be questioning how it is that Rusty came to make a deal with Trent
 at all?

 I know if I were selling a business, I'd be looking for an agreement that
 protected my interests.  And the buyer should do the same.  Check the
 books, reputation, relationships, etc.

 Something doesn't add to up to me.  I've seen several mentions of Trent
 selling for amazingly low prices... genuine parts for more than 40% off of
 list.  (which isn't possible, unless you happen to own a Mercedes Benz
 Sounded too good to be true.

 Jaime



 On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well Trent may be acting illegally and he may be a less than honest
 business man, based on what I have read from others experiences.
 However does this give give Gary the right to accuse him of an planned
 scheme to steal and also imply that Rusty has had a part in that?
 That's what a supposed honest businessman has done, accusing someone of
 improper and or illegal dealings without proof. Is this slander?

 The fact is that I stand to gain nothing from this whereas it is in Garys
 interest to discredit his opposition, whether he has proof or just heard a
 few stories does not seem to matter.
 Are these the actions of a professional and supposed good man?
 Sure Gary might be good at what he does, heck he even himself says so, so
 it must be true. Perhaps that is a cultural difference but up here if you
 start going on about how good you are people will think you're a bit of a
 wally.
 I know a few people who will happily spend a few hours telling you how
 good they are and that makes for fascinating conversation.

 I don't know the details of the divorce but I do know it spilt over into
 this list and it turned pretty ugly. And no I can't understand his actions,
 what did this list have to do with the split?
 If I was in his shoes and wanted to sell car parts to owners I would not
 be abusing my customers, instead be dealing with the situation privately,
 basically I think he threw a big tantrum in public, sure it might not have
 been the best part of his life but sometimes you just got walk away and
 cool off for a while.

 The question here is not who started the list or what have you not, the
 point here is that Gary is not a good man, he is bitter individual who is
 hell bent on revenge.
 Of course sure I am making a terrible mistake and Gary is the good guy
 wanting to warn people about the evils of dealing with other parts vendors.
 Yeah right, this is the moment he has been hoping would come along and
 now he is making the most of it, if he was such a good guy why would he say:

 i founded buymbparts 15 years ago and have watched it get more and more
 viciously crooked till it has reached the point where it is at now. even
 though i've had nothing to do with this company for many years now, these
 are sad days for me. i feel sort of like a parent whose child has run away
 from home and now i see him on the nightly news evolved into a hardened
 criminal

 Now that is strong stuff, he does not seem to care about destroying
 someone else or their livelihood (including the reputation of Rusty
 Cullens). What proof does he have of these viciously crooked things? I
 think the

Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

I'm confused... how could Kaleb buy Rusty's business if its already been
sold to Trent?

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

I guess I really don't care what happened in the past. Let's all just let
it go. If Jabba can supply the parts you need at a good price and in a
timely manner then who really cares what his opinions are?

Most of us shop at Walmart here in the USA. Most of us agree they have
done some bad things. Some of us just plain can't afford to shop anywhere
that doesn't provide the best price no matter what has happened. Rusty is
gone, Trent is gone, I have dealt with Gary when he worked with Rusty with
nothing but excellent service and he seems to be the guy that can do the
job. Do we have a better choice other than to ask him to curtail his
personal feelings on the list and allow him the chance to provide us with
a
convenience we miss?

Mike
On Jun 19, 2013 2:26 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

Rusty wrote:

It was operating as Wholesale Parts, Inc. for 2 years before Gary
became involved.

My 'phone list still has it listed under that name... with a note
next to it indicating the new name.

Guess that makes me an old-timer. *sigh*

We can order parts form the heap (or not) as we choose; without his being
un-banned. Besides, the listmom is working on competing with the heap, so
why would we want all that venom on the list?

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[MBZ] OT: Forest Preserve - was how do I ban...

Walking in the local forest preserve (FP), it occurred to me that it
might be interesting and instructive to have connectivity in the FP
and an application to lead a person to observe some of the things a FP
docent/ranger might point out.  Items such as certain trees or flowers
or wildlife habitat or whatever - stuff that a guided tour would
highlight.  Perhaps connectivity in the FP along with a local 'ap' to
lead us from one GPS location to the next might be interesting to
develop?
I don't do communist GPS, I don't do communist smartphone, but it
might be something that a local developer could code?  Drive or walk
to the FP and device alerts that there is an 'ap' to lead you to
places of interest in the FP, downloaded (free) 'ap' - I don't know
what is capable - perhaps the braintrust here can suggest tech is not
there yet? or that this would be an interesting coding project?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

2013-06-19 Thread dseretakis

Perhaps, Rusty can repo it as Trent will unlikely make his payments? Does it
work that way?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 19, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm confused... how could Kaleb buy Rusty's business if its already been
sold to Trent?

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

Mike
On Jun 19, 2013 2:26 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

Rusty wrote:

It was operating as Wholesale Parts, Inc. for 2 years before Gary
became involved.

My 'phone list still has it listed under that name... with a note
next to it indicating the new name.

Guess that makes me an old-timer. *sigh*

We can order parts form the heap (or not) as we choose; without his being
un-banned. Besides, the listmom is working on competing with the heap, so
why would we want all that venom on the list?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Forest Preserve - was how do I ban...

2013-06-19 Thread Dan Penoff

It's there. A number of different ways it could be done.

Dan

On Jun 19, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 Walking in the local forest preserve (FP), it occurred to me that it
 might be interesting and instructive to have connectivity in the FP
 and an application to lead a person to observe some of the things a FP
 docent/ranger might point out.  Items such as certain trees or flowers
 or wildlife habitat or whatever - stuff that a guided tour would
 highlight.  Perhaps connectivity in the FP along with a local 'ap' to
 lead us from one GPS location to the next might be interesting to
 develop?
 I don't do communist GPS, I don't do communist smartphone, but it
 might be something that a local developer could code?  Drive or walk
 to the FP and device alerts that there is an 'ap' to lead you to
 places of interest in the FP, downloaded (free) 'ap' - I don't know
 what is capable - perhaps the braintrust here can suggest tech is not
 there yet? or that this would be an interesting coding project?
 Thanks.
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Forest Preserve - was how do I ban...

Dan wrote:
 It's there. A number of different ways it could be done.

Nice.
A suggestion to the FP will not sound completely out of whack
regarding technology and coding options.  Perhaps a geeky local can
work with the rangers for each FP and get something handy happening.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

2013-06-19 Thread Michael Canfield

I agree.  Maybe it is none of our business but it seems to me that if I was
financing a business to a guy that would not return my calls I would be on
his doorstep wanting to know why.  Rusty said to contact him if there was a
problem but we don't hear too much.

What's up?

Mike
On Jun 19, 2013 3:54 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can understand your desire for more proof Hendrick.  But this is a pretty
 ugly road to go down and certainly doesn't belong here.

 What happened in the past is the past.  Its was ugly.  It created a lot of
 bad feelings.  It was bad for business, bad for our community, and bad for
 many individuals.  None of us will know all the sides of the story and the
 details of what happened.  And many of you wouldn't want to hear it.  And
 boy how things have changed since then.

 My point is simple:  don't believe everything that you've been told from
 one side.  You don't believe everything from the extreme right or left talk
 radio, do you? (hint: you shouldn't)

 Looks like we have more pro-gary folks than anti-gary at this point.  The
 anti-gary folks are holding on to a one-sided story In the end and some
 hurt feelings about being called some names  Doesn't everyone just want a
 reliable source of good parts?  The pro-gary folks are enjoying good
 service, good parts, and good knowledge.  Sounds like the kind of guy who
 should be part of this group, no?

 I understand the loyalty to Rusty in the past.  He did a lot for many of
 us, hosted parties, helped establish the sense of community we have here
 (or, whats left of it now).  Now Rusty is no longer here for us in that
 role due to a business decision that we can all understand.  It was the
 right time to move on.  The need for loyalty has past.  In fact, shouldn't
 someone be questioning how it is that Rusty came to make a deal with Trent
 at all?

 I know if I were selling a business, I'd be looking for an agreement that
 protected my interests.  And the buyer should do the same.  Check the
 books, reputation, relationships, etc.

 Something doesn't add to up to me.  I've seen several mentions of Trent
 selling for amazingly low prices... genuine parts for more than 40% off of
 list.  (which isn't possible, unless you happen to own a Mercedes Benz
 Sounded too good to be true.

 Jaime



 On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Well Trent may be acting illegally and he may be a less than honest
  business man, based on what I have read from others experiences.
  However does this give give Gary the right to accuse him of an planned
  scheme to steal and also imply that Rusty has had a part in that?
  That's what a supposed honest businessman has done, accusing someone of
  improper and or illegal dealings without proof. Is this slander?
 
  The fact is that I stand to gain nothing from this whereas it is in Garys
  interest to discredit his opposition, whether he has proof or just heard
 a
  few stories does not seem to matter.
  Are these the actions of a professional and supposed good man?
  Sure Gary might be good at what he does, heck he even himself says so, so
  it must be true. Perhaps that is a cultural difference but up here if you
  start going on about how good you are people will think you're a bit of a
  wally.
  I know a few people who will happily spend a few hours telling you how
  good they are and that makes for fascinating conversation.
 
  I don't know the details of the divorce but I do know it spilt over into
  this list and it turned pretty ugly. And no I can't understand his
 actions,
  what did this list have to do with the split?
  If I was in his shoes and wanted to sell car parts to owners I would not
  be abusing my customers, instead be dealing with the situation privately,
  basically I think he threw a big tantrum in public, sure it might not
 have
  been the best part of his life but sometimes you just got walk away and
  cool off for a while.
 
  The question here is not who started the list or what have you not, the
  point here is that Gary is not a good man, he is bitter individual who is
  hell bent on revenge.
  Of course sure I am making a terrible mistake and Gary is the good guy
  wanting to warn people about the evils of dealing with other parts
 vendors.
  Yeah right, this is the moment he has been hoping would come along and
 now
  he is making the most of it, if he was such a good guy why would he say:
 
  i founded buymbparts 15 years ago and have watched it get more and more
  viciously crooked till it has reached the point where it is at now. even
  though i've had nothing to do with this company for many years now, these
  are sad days for me. i feel sort of like a parent whose child has run
 away
  from home and now i see him on the nightly news evolved into a hardened
  criminal
 
  Now that is strong stuff, he does not seem to care about destroying
  someone else or their livelihood (including the reputation of

Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match


Obviously you don't  see every post here Jaime. When I left, I told everyone 
about Trent, he is the brother of my UPS driver. When I told my driver that I 
was shutting the business down to come to WorldPac he expressed interest in 
buying it. I didn't know him at all. I met him once for 4 hours and he  seemed 
like a very likeable guy. I have no relationship with him other than he owes me 
more money than anyone on this list and it looks like I will be screwed again 
in a business deal. Good thing I'm rich! Ha.


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

I can understand your desire for more proof Hendrick.  But this is a pretty
ugly road to go down and certainly doesn't belong here.

What happened in the past is the past.  Its was ugly.  It created a lot of
bad feelings.  It was bad for business, bad for our community, and bad for
many individuals.  None of us will know all the sides of the story and the
details of what happened.  And many of you wouldn't want to hear it.  And
boy how things have changed since then.

My point is simple:  don't believe everything that you've been told from
one side.  You don't believe everything from the extreme right or left talk
radio, do you? (hint: you shouldn't)

Looks like we have more pro-gary folks than anti-gary at this point.  The
anti-gary folks are holding on to a one-sided story In the end and some
hurt feelings about being called some names  Doesn't everyone just want a
reliable source of good parts?  The pro-gary folks are enjoying good
service, good parts, and good knowledge.  Sounds like the kind of guy who
should be part of this group, no?

I understand the loyalty to Rusty in the past.  He did a lot for many of
us, hosted parties, helped establish the sense of community we have here
(or, whats left of it now).  Now Rusty is no longer here for us in that
role due to a business decision that we can all understand.  It was the
right time to move on.  The need for loyalty has past.  In fact, shouldn't
someone be questioning how it is that Rusty came to make a deal with Trent
at all?

I know if I were selling a business, I'd be looking for an agreement that
protected my interests.  And the buyer should do the same.  Check the
books, reputation, relationships, etc.

Something doesn't add to up to me.  I've seen several mentions of Trent
selling for amazingly low prices... genuine parts for more than 40% off of
list.  (which isn't possible, unless you happen to own a Mercedes Benz
Sounded too good to be true.

Jaime



On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well Trent may be acting illegally and he may be a less than honest
 business man, based on what I have read from others experiences.
 However does this give give Gary the right to accuse him of an planned
 scheme to steal and also imply that Rusty has had a part in that?
 That's what a supposed honest businessman has done, accusing someone of
 improper and or illegal dealings without proof. Is this slander?

 The fact is that I stand to gain nothing from this whereas it is in Garys
 interest to discredit his opposition, whether he has proof or just heard a
 few stories does not seem to matter.
 Are these the actions of a professional and supposed good man?
 Sure Gary might be good at what he does, heck he even himself says so, so
 it must be true. Perhaps that is a cultural difference but up here if you
 start going on about how good you are people will think you're a bit of a
 wally.
 I know a few people who will happily spend a few hours telling you how
 good they are and that makes for fascinating conversation.

 I don't know the details of the divorce but I do know it spilt over into
 this list and it turned pretty ugly. And no I can't understand his actions,
 what did this list have to do with the split?
 If I was in his shoes and wanted to sell car parts to owners I would not
 be abusing my customers, instead be dealing with the situation privately,
 basically I think he threw a big tantrum in public, sure it might not have
 been the best part of his life but sometimes you just got walk away and
 cool off for a while.

 The question here is not who started the list or what have you not, the
 point here is that Gary is not a good man, he is bitter individual who is
 hell bent on revenge.
 Of course sure I am making a terrible mistake and Gary is the good guy
 wanting to warn people about the evils of dealing with other parts vendors.
 Yeah right, this is the moment he has been hoping would come along and now
 he is making the most of it, if he was such a good guy why would he say:

 i founded buymbparts 15 years ago and have watched it get more and

Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match


Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

Oops... clicked send too fast.

Anyway, how did Trent offer to sell parts below dealer cost!?  What
happened here?  And what kind of references did we have for this guy?  Who
vouched for him?  Maybe an explanation is in order, no?


All I can remember is one of us, probably me, posted a Rockauto price on a Uro 
radiator hose, and Trent complained that it was less than his cost. I think he 
wanted about $80 and Rock wanted about $20 plus $15 shipping or something. I'm 
99% sure he never offered to sell below cost on this list.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match


Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

I'm confused... how could Kaleb buy Rusty's business if its already been
sold to Trent?


Sounds like Rusty might still be in a position to repossess if he doesn't keep 
getting money for it.
I can't see how it could be the same business, as I don't think Kaleb has the 
time that Rusty had been putting into it.
I'd have offered to take it off Rusty's hands, but I'm pretty much totally 
without cash right now.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Forest Preserve - was how do I ban...

2013-06-19 Thread Rich Thomas

For a guy who keeps posting about no job, no work, no future, no health 
care, no nothing, seems like you could find some tutorials and start 
trying to build an app to do this.  I see high school kids coding up 
apps, some of them fairly complex, and I doubt if they are any smarter 
than you are, given what you have posted about your past endeavors.


I have slowly been teaching myself the electronics and micro programming 
I always wanted to do but never had time to do, it is not hard and there 
is a wealth of info out there about it and a huge community of people 
who share their knowledge and efforts.  I have not looked into the phone 
stuff, but lots of those folks are building links to Androids and Apple, 
so I am guessing it is not wildly complex and there is probably a 
community of developers too.


You have a good idea, spend some time (which it seems you have a lot of 
to fill) researching it, then have a go.  You have nothing to lose 
(loose) and a lot to gain.  Gopher it, don't rely on someone else.


--R


On 6/19/13 4:01 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Walking in the local forest preserve (FP), it occurred to me that it
might be interesting and instructive to have connectivity in the FP
and an application to lead a person to observe some of the things a FP
docent/ranger might point out.  Items such as certain trees or flowers
or wildlife habitat or whatever - stuff that a guided tour would
highlight.  Perhaps connectivity in the FP along with a local 'ap' to
lead us from one GPS location to the next might be interesting to
develop?
I don't do communist GPS, I don't do communist smartphone, but it
might be something that a local developer could code?  Drive or walk
to the FP and device alerts that there is an 'ap' to lead you to
places of interest in the FP, downloaded (free) 'ap' - I don't know
what is capable - perhaps the braintrust here can suggest tech is not
there yet? or that this would be an interesting coding project?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

Sorry to hear that Rusty... I missed the post about how you and Trent got
together.

Jaime



On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Rusty Cullens rustycull...@gmail.comwrote:


 Obviously you don't  see every post here Jaime. When I left, I told
 everyone about Trent, he is the brother of my UPS driver. When I told my
 driver that I was shutting the business down to come to WorldPac he
 expressed interest in buying it. I didn't know him at all. I met him once
 for 4 hours and he  seemed like a very likeable guy. I have no relationship
 with him other than he owes me more money than anyone on this list and it
 looks like I will be screwed again in a business deal. Good thing I'm rich!
 Ha.


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 I can understand your desire for more proof Hendrick.  But this is a pretty
 ugly road to go down and certainly doesn't belong here.

 What happened in the past is the past.  Its was ugly.  It created a lot of
 bad feelings.  It was bad for business, bad for our community, and bad for
 many individuals.  None of us will know all the sides of the story and the
 details of what happened.  And many of you wouldn't want to hear it.  And
 boy how things have changed since then.

 My point is simple:  don't believe everything that you've been told from
 one side.  You don't believe everything from the extreme right or left talk
 radio, do you? (hint: you shouldn't)

 Looks like we have more pro-gary folks than anti-gary at this point.  The
 anti-gary folks are holding on to a one-sided story In the end and some
 hurt feelings about being called some names  Doesn't everyone just want a
 reliable source of good parts?  The pro-gary folks are enjoying good
 service, good parts, and good knowledge.  Sounds like the kind of guy who
 should be part of this group, no?

 I understand the loyalty to Rusty in the past.  He did a lot for many of
 us, hosted parties, helped establish the sense of community we have here
 (or, whats left of it now).  Now Rusty is no longer here for us in that
 role due to a business decision that we can all understand.  It was the
 right time to move on.  The need for loyalty has past.  In fact, shouldn't
 someone be questioning how it is that Rusty came to make a deal with Trent
 at all?

 I know if I were selling a business, I'd be looking for an agreement that
 protected my interests.  And the buyer should do the same.  Check the
 books, reputation, relationships, etc.

 Something doesn't add to up to me.  I've seen several mentions of Trent
 selling for amazingly low prices... genuine parts for more than 40% off of
 list.  (which isn't possible, unless you happen to own a Mercedes Benz
 Sounded too good to be true.

 Jaime



 On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Well Trent may be acting illegally and he may be a less than honest
  business man, based on what I have read from others experiences.
  However does this give give Gary the right to accuse him of an planned
  scheme to steal and also imply that Rusty has had a part in that?
  That's what a supposed honest businessman has done, accusing someone of
  improper and or illegal dealings without proof. Is this slander?
 
  The fact is that I stand to gain nothing from this whereas it is in Garys
  interest to discredit his opposition, whether he has proof or just heard
 a
  few stories does not seem to matter.
  Are these the actions of a professional and supposed good man?
  Sure Gary might be good at what he does, heck he even himself says so, so
  it must be true. Perhaps that is a cultural difference but up here if you
  start going on about how good you are people will think you're a bit of a
  wally.
  I know a few people who will happily spend a few hours telling you how
  good they are and that makes for fascinating conversation.
 
  I don't know the details of the divorce but I do know it spilt over into
  this list and it turned pretty ugly. And no I can't understand his
 actions,
  what did this list have to do with the split?
  If I was in his shoes and wanted to sell car parts to owners I would not
  be abusing my customers, instead be dealing with the situation privately,
  basically I think he threw a big tantrum in public, sure it might not
 have
  been the best part of his life but sometimes you just got walk away and
  cool off for a while.
 
  The question here is not who started the list or what have you not, the
  point here is that Gary is not a good man, he is bitter individual who is
  hell bent on revenge.
  Of course sure I am making a terrible mistake and Gary is the good guy
  wanting to warn people about the evils of

[MBZ] All this speculation about Trent Gary

2013-06-19 Thread G. M. Brown

This is really getting out of hand.  All I can remember, and I don't know how 
factual this may be, I remember Richard, from Canada, who was running a MB 
fixit list and recall Gary  Rusty being involved in a discount MB parts source 
in/near Atlanta.  All the accusations aren't doing anyone any good as anyone 
can make an accusation and, as we all know from the I-net, this sort of thing 
gets a reputaion of its own.  I think some civility is in order.

 

G. M. Brown

Brevard, NC
  
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Re: [MBZ] All this speculation about Trent Gary

2013-06-19 Thread G Mann

It's almost as entertaining as Al Gore counting hanging chads in Florida.

Perhaps we should all chip in a few bucks to make whole those who have been
injured and buy ourselves some peace and quiet.

Pencil me in for what ever seems fair.. at this point I'm starting to not
care who did what to who, or how many times.. I'm getting that ex wife
experience feeling.

Grant...


On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:48 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote:

 This is really getting out of hand.  All I can remember, and I don't know
 how factual this may be, I remember Richard, from Canada, who was running a
 MB fixit list and recall Gary  Rusty being involved in a discount MB parts
 source in/near Atlanta.  All the accusations aren't doing anyone any good
 as anyone can make an accusation and, as we all know from the I-net, this
 sort of thing gets a reputaion of its own.  I think some civility is in
 order.



 G. M. Brown

 Brevard, NC

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Forest Preserve - was how do I ban...

2013-06-19 Thread Darren Marshall

You can do it all via geolocation/geotagging, I believe there is an 
app/community/geo spot hunting game out there, ah yes http://geocaching.com



Darren Marshall
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On Jun 19, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
wrote:

 For a guy who keeps posting about no job, no work, no future, no health care, 
 no nothing, seems like you could find some tutorials and start trying to 
 build an app to do this.  I see high school kids coding up apps, some of them 
 fairly complex, and I doubt if they are any smarter than you are, given what 
 you have posted about your past endeavors.
 
 I have slowly been teaching myself the electronics and micro programming I 
 always wanted to do but never had time to do, it is not hard and there is a 
 wealth of info out there about it and a huge community of people who share 
 their knowledge and efforts.  I have not looked into the phone stuff, but 
 lots of those folks are building links to Androids and Apple, so I am 
 guessing it is not wildly complex and there is probably a community of 
 developers too.
 
 You have a good idea, spend some time (which it seems you have a lot of to 
 fill) researching it, then have a go.  You have nothing to lose (loose) and a 
 lot to gain.  Gopher it, don't rely on someone else.
 
 --R
 
 
 On 6/19/13 4:01 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
 Walking in the local forest preserve (FP), it occurred to me that it
 might be interesting and instructive to have connectivity in the FP
 and an application to lead a person to observe some of the things a FP
 docent/ranger might point out.  Items such as certain trees or flowers
 or wildlife habitat or whatever - stuff that a guided tour would
 highlight.  Perhaps connectivity in the FP along with a local 'ap' to
 lead us from one GPS location to the next might be interesting to
 develop?
 I don't do communist GPS, I don't do communist smartphone, but it
 might be something that a local developer could code?  Drive or walk
 to the FP and device alerts that there is an 'ap' to lead you to
 places of interest in the FP, downloaded (free) 'ap' - I don't know
 what is capable - perhaps the braintrust here can suggest tech is not
 there yet? or that this would be an interesting coding project?
 Thanks.
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

Search Fiorini in Sterling, IL on one of the directory search sites.
Fiorini owns Sterling, essentially - seems like a big name in
Sterling.  I used dexknows and did not see any Trent listed directly.
Perhaps someone could do the search and make some calls trying to
locate Trent - pose as a friend concerned for his well-being or
somesuch.  Perhaps we might find $$?  Perhaps we might find what
happened to Trent?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Forest Preserve - was how do I ban...

Darren wrote:
 You can do it all via geolocation/geotagging, I believe there is an 
 app/community/geo spot hunting game out there, ah yes http://geocaching.com


There - that works.
Even geocache individual trees of interest or flowers of note.
Nice - thanks.
I passed the concept on to the forest preserve - suggested some
vagrant youngster might earn their keep coding the challenge.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

Me, too.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

Sorry to hear that Rusty... I missed the post about how you and Trent got
together.

Jaime

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Rusty Cullens 
rustycull...@gmail.comwrote:

Obviously you don't  see every post here Jaime. When I left, I told
everyone about Trent, he is the brother of my UPS driver. When I told my
driver that I was shutting the business down to come to WorldPac he
expressed interest in buying it. I didn't know him at all. I met him once
for 4 hours and he  seemed like a very likeable guy. I have no 
relationship

with him other than he owes me more money than anyone on this list and it
looks like I will be screwed again in a business deal. Good thing I'm 
rich!

Ha.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

I can understand your desire for more proof Hendrick.  But this is a 
pretty

ugly road to go down and certainly doesn't belong here.

What happened in the past is the past.  Its was ugly.  It created a lot of
bad feelings.  It was bad for business, bad for our community, and bad for
many individuals.  None of us will know all the sides of the story and the
details of what happened.  And many of you wouldn't want to hear it.  And
boy how things have changed since then.

My point is simple:  don't believe everything that you've been told from
one side.  You don't believe everything from the extreme right or left 
talk

radio, do you? (hint: you shouldn't)

Looks like we have more pro-gary folks than anti-gary at this point.  The
anti-gary folks are holding on to a one-sided story In the end and some
hurt feelings about being called some names  Doesn't everyone just want a
reliable source of good parts?  The pro-gary folks are enjoying good
service, good parts, and good knowledge.  Sounds like the kind of guy who
should be part of this group, no?

I understand the loyalty to Rusty in the past.  He did a lot for many of
us, hosted parties, helped establish the sense of community we have here
(or, whats left of it now).  Now Rusty is no longer here for us in that
role due to a business decision that we can all understand.  It was the
right time to move on.  The need for loyalty has past.  In fact, shouldn't
someone be questioning how it is that Rusty came to make a deal with Trent
at all?

I know if I were selling a business, I'd be looking for an agreement that
protected my interests.  And the buyer should do the same.  Check the
books, reputation, relationships, etc.

Something doesn't add to up to me.  I've seen several mentions of Trent
selling for amazingly low prices... genuine parts for more than 40% off of
list.  (which isn't possible, unless you happen to own a Mercedes Benz
Sounded too good to be true.

Jaime

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Well Trent may be acting illegally and he may be a less than honest
 business man, based on what I have read from others experiences.
 However does this give give Gary the right to accuse him of an planned
 scheme to steal and also imply that Rusty has had a part in that?
 That's what a supposed honest businessman has done, accusing someone of
 improper and or illegal dealings without proof. Is this slander?

 The fact is that I stand to gain nothing from this whereas it is in 
 Garys

 interest to discredit his opposition, whether he has proof or just heard
a
 few stories does not seem to matter.
 Are these the actions of a professional and supposed good man?
 Sure Gary might be good at what he does, heck he even himself says so, 
 so
 it must be true. Perhaps that is a cultural difference but up here if 
 you
 start going on about how good you are people will think you're a bit of 
 a

 wally.
 I know a few people who will happily spend a few hours telling you how
 good they are and that makes for fascinating conversation.

 I don't know the details of the divorce but I do know it spilt over into
 this list and it turned pretty ugly. And no I can't understand his
actions,
 what did this list have to do with the split?
 If I was in his shoes and wanted to sell car parts to owners I would not
 be abusing my customers, instead be dealing with the situation 
 privately,

 basically I think he threw a big tantrum in public, sure it might not
have
 been the best part of his life but sometimes you just got walk away and
 cool off for a while.

 The question here is not who started the list or what have you not, the
 point here is that Gary is not a good man, he

Re: [MBZ] MPG


I owned a silver R26 originally made for export to Switzerland.  Single
cylinder beauty I bought for $240 and sold for $290.  This was in the late
60s.



Shoulda kept it.  Have you seen what they will bring nowdays?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Forest Preserve - was how do I ban...

Grndaughter, rising sr. at NC State U. is an intern this summer at some type 
of forest/game preserve north of Charlotte, NC.  Coupla nights ago, she told 
me about having to all over the area checking/repairing as necessary 
lightning indicators (sounds like some type of fuse in the lightning 
protection systems) on all (coupla hundred) the of trees, each located 
precisely by GPS.


Wilton

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Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Forest Preserve - was how do I ban...



Darren wrote:
You can do it all via geolocation/geotagging, I believe there is an 
app/community/geo spot hunting game out there, ah yes 
http://geocaching.com




There - that works.
Even geocache individual trees of interest or flowers of note.
Nice - thanks.
I passed the concept on to the forest preserve - suggested some
vagrant youngster might earn their keep coding the challenge.
mao

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[MBZ] Subject: Re: Trent vesus Jabba death match

2013-06-19 Thread RDeafBoy

Search Fiorini in Sterling, IL on one of the directory search  sites.
Fiorini owns Sterling, essentially - seems like a big name  in
Sterling.  I used dexknows and did not see any Trent listed  directly.
Perhaps someone could do the search and make some calls trying  to
locate Trent - pose as a friend concerned for his well-being  or
somesuch.  Perhaps we might find $$?  Perhaps we might find  what
happened to Trent?
mao


I searched   _www.411.com_ (http://www.411.com)   ...There's a Trent Jon 
Fiorini  in Sterling,Il- 46 yrs  of age- Is that him ??
 
Bob 
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Re: [MBZ] Source of new parts

2013-06-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

We used to have okieq every year, but it's been a while.

Sent from my iPhone

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 Stay tuned, but okiebenz.com might start selling new parts pretty
 soon. It will be a way to pay for the list. Stay tuned.
 
 
 BBQ required,
 Would that make it an Oki-Que??
 
 
 Dave
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 '77 240D 437K mi, ugliest car at M$
 
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Re: [MBZ] Source of new parts

2013-06-19 Thread Bob Rentfro

Its because you are slacking and you were afraid that we would all be a
poor influence on Spencer. BOOM.

Bob R
On Jun 19, 2013 8:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 We used to have okieq every year, but it's been a while.

 Sent from my iPhone

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  Stay tuned, but okiebenz.com might start selling new parts pretty
  soon. It will be a way to pay for the list. Stay tuned.
 
 
  BBQ required,
  Would that make it an Oki-Que??
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Source of new parts


The RustyQ of 2002 was the best ever. We had Marshall Booth, Richarde, and 
more, a huge tent, Ervine's beer, Todd's  brat's, and burger's and dog's and 
Kringle. About 150 people showed up and had a blast! Those were the days. 
Thank's for the memories!



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We used to have okieq every year, but it's been a while.

Sent from my iPhone

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 Stay tuned, but okiebenz.com might start selling new parts pretty
 soon. It will be a way to pay for the list. Stay tuned.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

2013-06-19 Thread Gerry Archer

The Gary/Jabba problem can be divided into three parts; retail business 
matters, other business matters, and social.


RETAIL BUSINESS:  Gary seems to have a good track record in selling parts to 
list members.  I would buy parts from him.


OTHER BUSINESS:  Gary does not have a good track record.

SOCIAL:  Gary comes from NYC where his strong personality is either 
overlooked or acceptable.  However, it grates on the sensibilities of many 
list members from other parts of the country and from foreign countries.


If Gary should seek to rejoin this list which is both social and DIY, then 
the list owner should institute an iron-clad rule:  no personal attacks, 
and let him rejoin IMO.


My 2 cents,
Gerry

...
From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com

I can understand your desire for more proof Hendrick.  But this is a pretty
ugly road to go down and certainly doesn't belong here.

What happened in the past is the past.  Its was ugly.  It created a lot of
bad feelings.  It was bad for business, bad for our community, and bad for
many individuals.  None of us will know all the sides of the story and the
details of what happened.  And many of you wouldn't want to hear it.  And
boy how things have changed since then.

My point is simple:  don't believe everything that you've been told from
one side.  You don't believe everything from the extreme right or left 
talk

radio, do you? (hint: you shouldn't)

Looks like we have more pro-gary folks than anti-gary at this point.  The
anti-gary folks are holding on to a one-sided story In the end and some
hurt feelings about being called some names  Doesn't everyone just want a
reliable source of good parts?  The pro-gary folks are enjoying good
service, good parts, and good knowledge.  Sounds like the kind of guy who
should be part of this group, no?

I understand the loyalty to Rusty in the past.  He did a lot for many of
us, hosted parties, helped establish the sense of community we have here
(or, whats left of it now).  Now Rusty is no longer here for us in that
role due to a business decision that we can all understand.  It was the
right time to move on.  The need for loyalty has past.  In fact, shouldn't
someone be questioning how it is that Rusty came to make a deal with Trent
at all?

I know if I were selling a business, I'd be looking for an agreement that
protected my interests.  And the buyer should do the same.  Check the
books, reputation, relationships, etc.

Something doesn't add to up to me.  I've seen several mentions of Trent
selling for amazingly low prices... genuine parts for more than 40% off of
list.  (which isn't possible, unless you happen to own a Mercedes Benz
Sounded too good to be true.

Jaime



On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Well Trent may be acting illegally and he may be a less than honest
business man, based on what I have read from others experiences.
However does this give give Gary the right to accuse him of an planned
scheme to steal and also imply that Rusty has had a part in that?
That's what a supposed honest businessman has done, accusing someone of
improper and or illegal dealings without proof. Is this slander?

The fact is that I stand to gain nothing from this whereas it is in Garys
interest to discredit his opposition, whether he has proof or just heard 
a

few stories does not seem to matter.
Are these the actions of a professional and supposed good man?
Sure Gary might be good at what he does, heck he even himself says so, so
it must be true. Perhaps that is a cultural difference but up here if you
start going on about how good you are people will think you're a bit of a
wally.
I know a few people who will happily spend a few hours telling you how
good they are and that makes for fascinating conversation.

I don't know the details of the divorce but I do know it spilt over into
this list and it turned pretty ugly. And no I can't understand his 
actions,

what did this list have to do with the split?
If I was in his shoes and wanted to sell car parts to owners I would not
be abusing my customers, instead be dealing with the situation privately,
basically I think he threw a big tantrum in public, sure it might not 
have

been the best part of his life but sometimes you just got walk away and
cool off for a while.

The question here is not who started the list or what have you not, the
point here is that Gary is not a good man, he is bitter individual who is
hell bent on revenge.
Of course sure I am making a terrible mistake and Gary is the good guy
wanting to warn people about the evils of dealing with other parts 
vendors.
Yeah right, this is the moment he has been hoping would come along and 
now

he is making the most of it, if he was such a good guy why would he say:

i founded buymbparts 15 years ago and have watched it get more and more
viciously crooked till it has reached the point where it is at now. even
though i've

Re: [MBZ] OT: Forest Preserve - was how do I ban...

2013-06-19 Thread Darren Marshall

A little off topic on the off topic, but for an example of what you can do with 
location data, and If y'all happen to dig the Zombie Apocalypse, we released an 
app called Map of the Dead for iOS awhile back. 

It's a location based scavenge / survival game based on geolocation data of 
area businesses; check in to locations, fight zombies, collect ammo and other 
supplies, buy a crossbow ... 

http://doejo.com/work/map-of-the-dead/#.UcJW1yi9Kc0

Darren Marshall
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http://bowtruss.com

On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:03 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Grndaughter, rising sr. at NC State U. is an intern this summer at some type 
 of forest/game preserve north of Charlotte, NC.  Coupla nights ago, she told 
 me about having to all over the area checking/repairing as necessary 
 lightning indicators (sounds like some type of fuse in the lightning 
 protection systems) on all (coupla hundred) the of trees, each located 
 precisely by GPS.
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Forest Preserve - was how do I ban...
 
 
 Darren wrote:
 You can do it all via geolocation/geotagging, I believe there is an 
 app/community/geo spot hunting game out there, ah yes http://geocaching.com
 
 There - that works.
 Even geocache individual trees of interest or flowers of note.
 Nice - thanks.
 I passed the concept on to the forest preserve - suggested some
 vagrant youngster might earn their keep coding the challenge.
 mao
 
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[MBZ] Trent vesus Jabba death match

2013-06-19 Thread Gerry Archer

Did Trent haul Rustys parts stock to Chicago?  If they're still in Atlanta, 
they can probably be retrieved by Rusty.  Retrieval from Chicago might be 
difficult or impossible.

Gerry

From: dsereta...@yahoo.com
Perhaps, Rusty can repo it as Trent will unlikely make his payments? Does 
it work that way?



On Jun 19, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm confused... how could Kaleb buy Rusty's business if its already been 
sold to Trent?



On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

I guess I really don't care what happened in the past.  Let's all just 
let

it go.  If Jabba can supply the parts you need at a good price and in a
timely manner then who really cares what his opinions are?

Most of us shop at Walmart here in the USA.  Most of us agree they have
done some bad things.  Some of us just plain can't afford to shop 
anywhere
that doesn't provide the best price no matter what has happened.  Rusty 
is
gone, Trent is gone, I have dealt with Gary when he worked with Rusty 
with
nothing but excellent service and he seems to be the guy that can do 
the

job.  Do we have a better choice other than to ask him to curtail his
personal feelings on the list and allow him the chance to provide us 
with

a
convenience we miss?

Mike
On Jun 19, 2013 2:26 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:


Rusty wrote:


It was operating as Wholesale Parts, Inc. for 2 years before Gary
became involved.


My 'phone list still has it listed under that name...  with a note
next to it indicating the new name.

Guess that makes me an old-timer.  *sigh*


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We can order parts form the heap (or not) as we choose; without his 
being
un-banned.  Besides, the listmom is working on competing with the heap, 
so

why would we want all that venom on the list?


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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Trent vesus Jabba death match

Bob wrote:
 I searched   _www.411.com_ (http://www.411.com)   ...There's a Trent Jon
 Fiorini  in Sterling,Il- 46 yrs  of age- Is that him ??

I don't know.
But I guess we could start calling Fiorini in Sterling.  Search
Fiorini - there were at least a dozen in Sterling.

Bob - are you the guy that brews your own Kombucha?  It sounds like an
interesting tea to try.  I will need to pay the $$ to sample ready
made stuff and if it is tasty maybe you can supply me with a bit of
your SCOBY if you have some to share.
Thanks.
mao

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