Re: [MBZ] Mono valve pigtail
y'know, i could use that money! esh is super rich. he's got a place in brooksville. he won't miss it! On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Mike. Enjoy. Gary. It was gratis/pro bono, just not that kind of bono. You sexy beast! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Mike Esh michael...@mac.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:32 PM Subject: [MBZ] Mono valve pigtail Thanks Fred! Pigtail arrived today and is exactly what I need. Please let me how much money to send you and how you would like me to send it. Thank you very much. Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today
Gary. Thought so. sexy too! I see that you have grown and thrived since then. Florida must be good for you. You cannot take life too seriously, you won't get out of it alive. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today why, i am both a pervert and a new yorker! On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Gary. Only a pervert (or a New Yorker) would put poisonous love apples into a good clam chowdah! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hatch chili peppers
Well we don't have much call for a chile roaster here so will have to make due. So once they are roasted how long do they typically stay good? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:17:28 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I was visiting one of my dealers today and a customer brought in like 5 cases of these hatch chili peppers that are supposed to be a big deal in new mexico. So I got a big bag of them. So what should I do with them? Yes, they are a big deal here in New Mexico. They were grown in Hatch, NM. You roast them over a fire so you can peel the skins off and then use them in your food. Here they have cylindrical cages about 3' in diameter and about 5' long made of wire mesh. Part of the circumference is a door through which one adds or removes chiles (chee-lays -- quite a bit different than chili). After the peppers are loaded inot the cage, a motor starts it rotating on its axis. Below the axis are three LARGE propane burners that are fired up to roast the chiles. After the appropriate time roasting (which produces a very typical New Mexico fall smell), the burners are turned down to pilot, while the cage continues to rotate to cool the chiles. When they are cooled down enough, they are loaded into a black trash bag and given to the customer. At our local Smith's supermarket, they have one of these burners attached to a 500 gallon propane tank sitting outside the store on the sidewalk. A customer will buy a bag or box of chiles in the store and then bring it out to have his chiles roasted before going home. You can do it in a propane barbecue, too, though the purpose-built chile roaster does a better job more quickly. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2013 Ig Nobel Prizes
Inasmuch as I'm scientifically trained, these don't seem funny to me - at all. On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 4:17 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: The awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to President Barack Obama before he had a chance to start a war has cast Nobel prizes into such disrepute that the Ignobel Prizes have risen above them in importance. Here are the 2013 winners: Stargazing dung beetles, mice that survive for longer after heart surgery when they listen to opera, and whether or not you could walk on water on other planets - all of them are serious scientific questions that researchers sweated over for years. On Thursday, their hard work was honoured with possibly one of the most sought-after nods from their scientific peers: an Ig Nobel prize. This is the 23rd year of the awards - a spoof of the even more prestigious Nobel prizes, which will be announced next month. The 10 prizes, organised by the humour magazine Annals of Improbable Research and awarded at Harvard University, honour achievements that first make people laugh, and then make them think. The joint astronomy and biology prize went to Eric Warrant's team at the University of Lund for their discovery that dung beetles navigate using the stars. The researchers had been studying the beetles' ability to roll their balls of dung in straight lines by using the moon as a guide - they use the pattern of polarised light around the moon as a kind of celestial compass. One night, however, the night was moonless yet we noticed the beetles could still orient in straight lines, said Warrant. At first we were shocked and worried that our previous experiments using the moon were wrong. But then looking up we saw the broad stripe of light that is the Milky Way and realised they might be using this as a compass cue. This, it turns out, was the case. Warrant said other nocturnal navigators such as birds and moths may also use the Milky Way as a compass. And there's a potential practical use too, he added. The principles we are uncovering in dung beetle navigation may be useful in the design of autonomous vehicles and robots, although this is likely to be few years off. Masanori Niimi, of Teikyo University in Tokyo, won the medicine prize for his finding that mice given heart transplants survived longer when they listened to particular music. Whereas mice normally survived an average of seven days, those that listened to Verdi's opera La Traviata survived 27 days. Those listening to the Irish singer Enya survived 11 days. Brad Bushman, of Ohio State University, won the psychology prize for confirming the familiar sense of feeling more attractive when you've had a few too many drinks. In his study, participants had to make a speech about how attractive, original and funny they were, which was rated by independent judges. Those who were drunk when they made the speech (and even those who thought they were drunk) gave themselves more positive self-evaluations. But the ratings from independent judges showed this was unrelated to actual performance. Drunk people might think they are more attractive, but they actually are not, said Bushman. This false belief may get drunk people into trouble, for example if they come on too strong to a potential romantic partner because they think they are irresistible. The probability prize was awarded to animal scientists at Scotland's Rural College for making two related discoveries. First, that the longer a cow has been lying down, the more likely that cow will soon stand up, read their citation. And second, that once a cow stands up, you cannot easily predict how soon that cow will lie down again. Bert Tolkamp said he and his colleagues were running several research programmes aimed at improving animal health and welfare. In their award-winning research, they fitted sensors on cows' legs that recorded how long the animals spent standing up or lying down. The physics prize went to a study looking at how weak gravity would have to be on a planet for someone to be able to run across a lake of liquid water without sinking. Alberto Minetti, of the University of Milan, and Yuri Ivanenko, of the Italian Research Hospital, suspended volunteers above a wading pool to simulate their weights on different planets under different gravity fields, and asked them to walk on water. Their results showed people could probably walk across ponds of liquid water on the moon but probably not on Mars. Minetti said: A serious implication is to stimulate thinking about the discrepancy between the (relatively fast) timing of space exploration and the long-lasting evolution that would be required to adapt actual living beings to locomote in different gravity environments. The Ig Nobels were handed out by Nobel prizewinners, including the physics laureates Roy Glauber, Frank Wilczek and Sheldon Glashow. Marc Abrahams, editor of the Annals of Improbable
Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today
i'm really only in florida as my mother is aged and essentially daft and not quite able to manage her own affairs on a day to day basis. i would prefer renting a room above a store in downtown hendersonville, NC, or maybe someplace equivalent in maine. now my daughter has run away from her mother and joined us here too, so the circus is in town all day every day. not sure if you can see this, but this is her school ID https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1185955_581194845276372_1134006160_n.jpg and this is her impression of me https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1004852_560006047395252_342547073_n.jpg south florida is a weird place, but i don't interact much with the natives. the hebrew towers north is near the beach, which is all russian mafia and where english is the 5th language. while the russians control the beach (they love the beach everywhere. reminds them of life in old odessa!), most of the rest of the culture is spanish language. to my west not a mile away it become haitian desolation for several miles, after which there is actual american suburbia until one hits the everglades. throw in maybe a couple of hundred thousand homeless and near homeless, largely substance abusers and mental patients, and you can complete your picture but i honestly like it here in winter as it is just flooded with tourists and you can swim in the ocean in january. summer is about half the year though and it is fairly dismal On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Gary. Thought so. sexy too! I see that you have grown and thrived since then. Florida must be good for you. You cannot take life too seriously, you won't get out of it alive. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today why, i am both a pervert and a new yorker! On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Gary. Only a pervert (or a New Yorker) would put poisonous love apples into a good clam chowdah! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 21:42:51 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Could be a much more enjoyable trip now that cruise control on my 124 is fixed. I-95N and hold it straight and level, right? ;) 10-4. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today
You should move here Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'm really only in florida as my mother is aged and essentially daft and not quite able to manage her own affairs on a day to day basis. i would prefer renting a room above a store in downtown hendersonville, NC, or maybe someplace equivalent in maine. now my daughter has run away from her mother and joined us here too, so the circus is in town all day every day. not sure if you can see this, but this is her school ID https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1185955_581194845276372_1134006160_n.jpg and this is her impression of me https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1004852_560006047395252_342547073_n.jpg south florida is a weird place, but i don't interact much with the natives. the hebrew towers north is near the beach, which is all russian mafia and where english is the 5th language. while the russians control the beach (they love the beach everywhere. reminds them of life in old odessa!), most of the rest of the culture is spanish language. to my west not a mile away it become haitian desolation for several miles, after which there is actual american suburbia until one hits the everglades. throw in maybe a couple of hundred thousand homeless and near homeless, largely substance abusers and mental patients, and you can complete your picture but i honestly like it here in winter as it is just flooded with tourists and you can swim in the ocean in january. summer is about half the year though and it is fairly dismal On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Gary. Thought so. sexy too! I see that you have grown and thrived since then. Florida must be good for you. You cannot take life too seriously, you won't get out of it alive. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today why, i am both a pervert and a new yorker! On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Gary. Only a pervert (or a New Yorker) would put poisonous love apples into a good clam chowdah! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today
unlikely i will ever be living on tulsa time On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: You should move here Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'm really only in florida as my mother is aged and essentially daft and not quite able to manage her own affairs on a day to day basis. i would prefer renting a room above a store in downtown hendersonville, NC, or maybe someplace equivalent in maine. now my daughter has run away from her mother and joined us here too, so the circus is in town all day every day. not sure if you can see this, but this is her school ID https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1185955_581194845276372_1134006160_n.jpg and this is her impression of me https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1004852_560006047395252_342547073_n.jpg south florida is a weird place, but i don't interact much with the natives. the hebrew towers north is near the beach, which is all russian mafia and where english is the 5th language. while the russians control the beach (they love the beach everywhere. reminds them of life in old odessa!), most of the rest of the culture is spanish language. to my west not a mile away it become haitian desolation for several miles, after which there is actual american suburbia until one hits the everglades. throw in maybe a couple of hundred thousand homeless and near homeless, largely substance abusers and mental patients, and you can complete your picture but i honestly like it here in winter as it is just flooded with tourists and you can swim in the ocean in january. summer is about half the year though and it is fairly dismal On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Gary. Thought so. sexy too! I see that you have grown and thrived since then. Florida must be good for you. You cannot take life too seriously, you won't get out of it alive. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today why, i am both a pervert and a new yorker! On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Gary. Only a pervert (or a New Yorker) would put poisonous love apples into a good clam chowdah! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hatch chili peppers
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 21:19:31 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Well we don't have much call for a chile roaster here so will have to make due. I'm sure you can make do, and that quite easily, too So once they are roasted how long do they typically stay good? Divide them up into serving-size portions, bag them up in ZIP-Loc bags, and then freeze them. When you want some chiles, take out a bag and let them thaw. Once thawed, they will stay good a week or so, maybe even two weeks -- I wouldn't push it though. Frozen, they will stay good 6 months to a year. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hatch chili peppers
Thanks Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:29 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 21:19:31 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Well we don't have much call for a chile roaster here so will have to make due. I'm sure you can make do, and that quite easily, too So once they are roasted how long do they typically stay good? Divide them up into serving-size portions, bag them up in ZIP-Loc bags, and then freeze them. When you want some chiles, take out a bag and let them thaw. Once thawed, they will stay good a week or so, maybe even two weeks -- I wouldn't push it though. Frozen, they will stay good 6 months to a year. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today
I will give you free room and board. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: unlikely i will ever be living on tulsa time On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: You should move here Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'm really only in florida as my mother is aged and essentially daft and not quite able to manage her own affairs on a day to day basis. i would prefer renting a room above a store in downtown hendersonville, NC, or maybe someplace equivalent in maine. now my daughter has run away from her mother and joined us here too, so the circus is in town all day every day. not sure if you can see this, but this is her school ID https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1185955_581194845276372_1134006160_n.jpg and this is her impression of me https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1004852_560006047395252_342547073_n.jpg south florida is a weird place, but i don't interact much with the natives. the hebrew towers north is near the beach, which is all russian mafia and where english is the 5th language. while the russians control the beach (they love the beach everywhere. reminds them of life in old odessa!), most of the rest of the culture is spanish language. to my west not a mile away it become haitian desolation for several miles, after which there is actual american suburbia until one hits the everglades. throw in maybe a couple of hundred thousand homeless and near homeless, largely substance abusers and mental patients, and you can complete your picture but i honestly like it here in winter as it is just flooded with tourists and you can swim in the ocean in january. summer is about half the year though and it is fairly dismal On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Gary. Thought so. sexy too! I see that you have grown and thrived since then. Florida must be good for you. You cannot take life too seriously, you won't get out of it alive. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today why, i am both a pervert and a new yorker! On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Gary. Only a pervert (or a New Yorker) would put poisonous love apples into a good clam chowdah! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today
sounds like some kind of trap from here and you are probably not prepared for how much i eat! On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I will give you free room and board. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: unlikely i will ever be living on tulsa time On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: You should move here Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'm really only in florida as my mother is aged and essentially daft and not quite able to manage her own affairs on a day to day basis. i would prefer renting a room above a store in downtown hendersonville, NC, or maybe someplace equivalent in maine. now my daughter has run away from her mother and joined us here too, so the circus is in town all day every day. not sure if you can see this, but this is her school ID https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1185955_581194845276372_1134006160_n.jpg and this is her impression of me https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1004852_560006047395252_342547073_n.jpg south florida is a weird place, but i don't interact much with the natives. the hebrew towers north is near the beach, which is all russian mafia and where english is the 5th language. while the russians control the beach (they love the beach everywhere. reminds them of life in old odessa!), most of the rest of the culture is spanish language. to my west not a mile away it become haitian desolation for several miles, after which there is actual american suburbia until one hits the everglades. throw in maybe a couple of hundred thousand homeless and near homeless, largely substance abusers and mental patients, and you can complete your picture but i honestly like it here in winter as it is just flooded with tourists and you can swim in the ocean in january. summer is about half the year though and it is fairly dismal On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Gary. Thought so. sexy too! I see that you have grown and thrived since then. Florida must be good for you. You cannot take life too seriously, you won't get out of it alive. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today why, i am both a pervert and a new yorker! On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Gary. Only a pervert (or a New Yorker) would put poisonous love apples into a good clam chowdah! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today
Gary. She looks like an intelligent talented wild child. You have my sympathy. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today i'm really only in florida as my mother is aged and essentially daft and not quite able to manage her own affairs on a day to day basis. i would prefer renting a room above a store in downtown hendersonville, NC, or maybe someplace equivalent in maine. now my daughter has run away from her mother and joined us here too, so the circus is in town all day every day. not sure if you can see this, but this is her school ID https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1185955_581194845276372_1134006160_n.jpg and this is her impression of me https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1004852_560006047395252_342547073_n.jpg south florida is a weird place, but i don't interact much with the natives. the hebrew towers north is near the beach, which is all russian mafia and where english is the 5th language. while the russians control the beach (they love the beach everywhere. reminds them of life in old odessa!), most of the rest of the culture is spanish language. to my west not a mile away it become haitian desolation for several miles, after which there is actual american suburbia until one hits the everglades. throw in maybe a couple of hundred thousand homeless and near homeless, largely substance abusers and mental patients, and you can complete your picture but i honestly like it here in winter as it is just flooded with tourists and you can swim in the ocean in january. summer is about half the year though and it is fairly dismal ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today
I liked them all but the kebabs were awesome as were the fries. On Sep 13, 2013 9:38 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Well and then special things, we've had: Steak and chicken kabobs Fresh french fries chicken wings This year we'll have something ever better but its a surprise and I don't want to spoil it. -Curt Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:12:34 -0400 From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today Message-ID: cah-alp-c5wacttnfqxz2yxzi58-r0tutdvhvgpruebyipum...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well here in RI we make a unique clear chowder. My favorite but we make the milk kind for the non RI attendees at ChowdaQ. We also have Curt's fabulous bacon burgers john's RI clamcakes. They are like southern hush puppies with clams in them. When we have one in maine we will have to to have lobstah stew lobstah rolls. Right Dimitri? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today
there are a lot of good moments, but also much frustration. like her father, she's not inclined to be a serious person On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Gary. She looks like an intelligent talented wild child. You have my sympathy. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today i'm really only in florida as my mother is aged and essentially daft and not quite able to manage her own affairs on a day to day basis. i would prefer renting a room above a store in downtown hendersonville, NC, or maybe someplace equivalent in maine. now my daughter has run away from her mother and joined us here too, so the circus is in town all day every day. not sure if you can see this, but this is her school ID https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1185955_581194845276372_1134006160_n.jpg and this is her impression of me https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1004852_560006047395252_342547073_n.jpg south florida is a weird place, but i don't interact much with the natives. the hebrew towers north is near the beach, which is all russian mafia and where english is the 5th language. while the russians control the beach (they love the beach everywhere. reminds them of life in old odessa!), most of the rest of the culture is spanish language. to my west not a mile away it become haitian desolation for several miles, after which there is actual american suburbia until one hits the everglades. throw in maybe a couple of hundred thousand homeless and near homeless, largely substance abusers and mental patients, and you can complete your picture but i honestly like it here in winter as it is just flooded with tourists and you can swim in the ocean in january. summer is about half the year though and it is fairly dismal ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today
Gary Hurst wrote: and this is her impression of me https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1004852_560006047395252_342547073_n.jpg She's good. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2013 Ig Nobel Prizes
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Inasmuch as I'm scientifically trained, these don't seem funny to me - at all. How about this one? https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1239661_517570931656831_377223733_n.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today
I will just need free parts from time to time. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:41 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: sounds like some kind of trap from here and you are probably not prepared for how much i eat! On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I will give you free room and board. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: unlikely i will ever be living on tulsa time On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: You should move here Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'm really only in florida as my mother is aged and essentially daft and not quite able to manage her own affairs on a day to day basis. i would prefer renting a room above a store in downtown hendersonville, NC, or maybe someplace equivalent in maine. now my daughter has run away from her mother and joined us here too, so the circus is in town all day every day. not sure if you can see this, but this is her school ID https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1185955_581194845276372_1134006160_n.jpg and this is her impression of me https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1004852_560006047395252_342547073_n.jpg south florida is a weird place, but i don't interact much with the natives. the hebrew towers north is near the beach, which is all russian mafia and where english is the 5th language. while the russians control the beach (they love the beach everywhere. reminds them of life in old odessa!), most of the rest of the culture is spanish language. to my west not a mile away it become haitian desolation for several miles, after which there is actual american suburbia until one hits the everglades. throw in maybe a couple of hundred thousand homeless and near homeless, largely substance abusers and mental patients, and you can complete your picture but i honestly like it here in winter as it is just flooded with tourists and you can swim in the ocean in january. summer is about half the year though and it is fairly dismal On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Gary. Thought so. sexy too! I see that you have grown and thrived since then. Florida must be good for you. You cannot take life too seriously, you won't get out of it alive. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today why, i am both a pervert and a new yorker! On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Gary. Only a pervert (or a New Yorker) would put poisonous love apples into a good clam chowdah! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go
Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today
oh, man, i've heard of being made a sex slave, but a parts slave and what to do with my mother and daughter? On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I will just need free parts from time to time. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:41 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: sounds like some kind of trap from here and you are probably not prepared for how much i eat! On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I will give you free room and board. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: unlikely i will ever be living on tulsa time On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: You should move here Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'm really only in florida as my mother is aged and essentially daft and not quite able to manage her own affairs on a day to day basis. i would prefer renting a room above a store in downtown hendersonville, NC, or maybe someplace equivalent in maine. now my daughter has run away from her mother and joined us here too, so the circus is in town all day every day. not sure if you can see this, but this is her school ID https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1185955_581194845276372_1134006160_n.jpg and this is her impression of me https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1004852_560006047395252_342547073_n.jpg south florida is a weird place, but i don't interact much with the natives. the hebrew towers north is near the beach, which is all russian mafia and where english is the 5th language. while the russians control the beach (they love the beach everywhere. reminds them of life in old odessa!), most of the rest of the culture is spanish language. to my west not a mile away it become haitian desolation for several miles, after which there is actual american suburbia until one hits the everglades. throw in maybe a couple of hundred thousand homeless and near homeless, largely substance abusers and mental patients, and you can complete your picture but i honestly like it here in winter as it is just flooded with tourists and you can swim in the ocean in january. summer is about half the year though and it is fairly dismal On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Gary. Thought so. sexy too! I see that you have grown and thrived since then. Florida must be good for you. You cannot take life too seriously, you won't get out of it alive. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today why, i am both a pervert and a new yorker! On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Gary. Only a pervert (or a New Yorker) would put poisonous love apples into a good clam chowdah! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list
Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today
Does your daughter cook and clean? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: oh, man, i've heard of being made a sex slave, but a parts slave and what to do with my mother and daughter? On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I will just need free parts from time to time. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:41 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: sounds like some kind of trap from here and you are probably not prepared for how much i eat! On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I will give you free room and board. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: unlikely i will ever be living on tulsa time On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: You should move here Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today
my daughter does nothing but sleep, eat, go to school and chat online :( On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Does your daughter cook and clean? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: oh, man, i've heard of being made a sex slave, but a parts slave and what to do with my mother and daughter? On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I will just need free parts from time to time. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:41 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: sounds like some kind of trap from here and you are probably not prepared for how much i eat! On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I will give you free room and board. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: unlikely i will ever be living on tulsa time On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: You should move here Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today
Oh well then she would have to pay rent Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: my daughter does nothing but sleep, eat, go to school and chat online :( On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Does your daughter cook and clean? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: oh, man, i've heard of being made a sex slave, but a parts slave and what to do with my mother and daughter? On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I will just need free parts from time to time. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:41 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: sounds like some kind of trap from here and you are probably not prepared for how much i eat! On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I will give you free room and board. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: unlikely i will ever be living on tulsa time On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: You should move here Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a new englander called today
i was thinking more in terms of, as insane as this will sound, them not wanting to go to oklahoma On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Oh well then she would have to pay rent Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: my daughter does nothing but sleep, eat, go to school and chat online :( On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Does your daughter cook and clean? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: oh, man, i've heard of being made a sex slave, but a parts slave and what to do with my mother and daughter? On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I will just need free parts from time to time. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:41 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: sounds like some kind of trap from here and you are probably not prepared for how much i eat! On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I will give you free room and board. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: unlikely i will ever be living on tulsa time On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: You should move here Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2013 Ig Nobel Prizes
How about the Darwin Awards? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_Awards .or https://www.google.com/#q=darwin+awards Gerry Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Inasmuch as I'm scientifically trained, these don't seem funny to me - at all. How about this one? https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1239661_517570931656831_377223733_n.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3222/6164 - Release Date: 09/13/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] speaking of electrical
Didn't you gloat about how cheap that was? At least my ex-SDL still runs and drives :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 9/13/2013 4:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I got this 87 300D I picked up, been sitting a long time, rats have chewed some wires. You put a battery in it, turn the key on and nothing. No lights, nothing. I did some preliminary checks but I am guessing either the ground wire is off somewhere, or the big main positive line that runs from battery to starter is cut or something? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crab pots
Must be. One of my disrespectful children gave me a framed sign for Christmas that read: I'm so old I fart dust. I put it up in the shop. Gerry From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net You must be old as dirt On Sep 12, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: In the late 1940s we went crabbing and mullet snatching on the Clearwater Causeway. (Dan knows where it is.) We dropped our crab traps off low seawalls. The four wire mesh sides of the traps, which were connected to a rope, dropped open and the crabs simply walked in and started eating the fishheads. The water was so clear, we could watch them, and when several had piled up trying to get to the bait, we pulled up the rope which closed the sides and then lifted the trap, collected the crabs, and let the trap down for another batch. If the tide was running, we would snatch mullet with a large weighted four prong hook as they streamed under a low bridge. There were so many fish and crabs, poor people could depend on them for the meat in their diet year 'round if they weren't too far from the water. Those were the good old days. I don't know what a crab pot is unless it's the same as a lobster pot. Gerry From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Which reminds me, have any of you ever actually gone crabbing? My wife told me this crab pot theory where if a crab manages to climb to the top of the pot and hook a claw over to climb out all the other crabs will grab on to it in an attempt to also climb out thus dooming the whole lot to the pot as the weight is too much for the one and everybody falls back in. I'm curious if that actually happens... -Curt Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 09:56:05 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Factoid Message-ID: 5231c7f5.5040...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I go shrimping and fishing sometimes too. --R On 9/12/13 9:44 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: What are you doing other than crabbing? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3222/6156 - Release Date: 09/11/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3222/6161 - Release Date: 09/12/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crab pots
- Original Message - From: m...@voyager.net In the late 1940s we went crabbing and mullet snatching on the Clearwater Causeway. (Dan knows where it is.) Clam traps would be more useful in Clearwater these days. http://www.xenu.net/clam_faq.html Mitch. That's weird. The scientologists have probably spent several billion dollars buying and building in Clearwater. Big scandal over death of a follower who was kept captive and given one of their treatments. I think they finally settled with the relatives. Also, you've probably heard/read about the Koran-burning pastors arrest: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-pastors-plan-to-burn-2998-copies-of-the-koran-to-mark-911-ends-in-arrest-8811355.html All sorts of interesting people seem to wind up in Florida and do strange things. Seems to affect the locals as well. For example, several years ago we had a city councilman pull a banana on another councilman and aim it straight at him. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mercedes enthusiasts reaction to the CLA
Just had to share this! Mercedes enthusiasts reaction to the CLA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omkJmE1NwDc -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Blair Brown is Not Raymond Burr
At 5:30 PM -0700 9/12/13, Alex Chamberlain wrote: Re the title of this thread, Blair Brown is also not Blair Underwood. Whups! Oh, well, one Blair is much the same as another. :-} -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Blair Brown is Not Raymond Burr
We have one of Gene Autry's nephews (IiRC) doing weather/local color in our local Richmond Va TV channel -- Curt Autry LarryT On 9/12/2013 6:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: A lady I used to work with at Autotrader was cousins with Gene Autry. On 9/12/2013 11:53 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: i haven't seen green acres in ages but remember being amused by it. it has a decent premise . it also has gene autry's old sidekick, pat butram. On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Why bother? Its on Amazon for $20 a season, on Hulu for free but you get commercials. I haven't bothered to convert anything in years, its too easy to find it done already. I didn't like Green Acres 20 years ago, can't see me linking it now. That said I'll give it a shot... -Curt Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:06:21 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Blair Brown is Not Raymond Burr Message-ID: 2f8e1b39-f803-4b44-99ea-4fbbfc5a3...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a couple of seasons on VHS. I need a VCR to transfer it to digital. Dan On Sep 12, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Carol Burnett and Bob Newhart I can see but Green Acres? UGH... Have watched some of S1 of Green Acres. Surprisingly funny, and has held up very well. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: The 2014 Mercedes-Benz E250 BlueTEC is here!
that's encouraging! LarryT On 9/12/2013 8:31 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Sep 12, 2013 2:57 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: If the MB quality hadn't dropped so far, so fast, By all reports it's bounced back since '06. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes enthusiasts reaction to the CLA
The maker of these videos is a riot. He's right on about the FWD. BMW's 1 series is RWD and Mercedes who wants to tap into the younger crowd thinks that building a FWD Mercedes Camry is the answer! Dumbasses! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 3:48 AM, Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote: Just had to share this! Mercedes enthusiasts reaction to the CLA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omkJmE1NwDc -- Chris J. MBCA Peachtree section Past MB Models: '85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wow this looks nice
ThisW140 SD looks in great condition -- has 350K miles! wonder if it has a new engine? Anyway - the engine has a red cam cover - is this stock or owner supplied? LarryT http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SD-TURBODIESEL-1992-92-mercedes-300-sd-turbo-diesel-big-body-sedan-/300964198666?forcerrptr=truehash=item4612dd390aitem=300964198666pt=US_Cars_Trucks On 9/12/2013 10:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SD-Sedan-1979-mercedes-300-sd-diesel-records-immaculate-runs-looks-/141060499614?forcerrptr=truehash=item20d7dc689eitem=141060499614pt=US_Cars_Trucks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Factoid
it's becoming harder and harder to find stuff _/not /_made in China! With automotive parts I worry about counterfeit parts that make it into the system. Back in the 80s there were a lot of fasteners that looked and were marked like the OEM parts but they failed much earlier than they should. I've been told stuff can be mad in China to high quality but only if the buyer stays vigilant and monitors the whole process. They will cut corners when possible as that puts more money in their pockets... LarryT 78 240D 91 300D On 9/12/2013 11:08 PM, clay wrote: I do not support the chinese economy if I am at all able. I want first world parts, and first world quality. There is a large influx of affluent orientals coming to my county. They are not yearning to breath free, other than to not suffocate on the air they breath. They are a stimulus, in that their purchasing power rivals that of the 1%. They snag high end euro cars, expensive luxury goods and live high on the hog. These are university students. They may even return to the home land and become good members of the party, until the party is over. I suspect they would rather stay here and live a more healthy life while daddy pays the bills. If you prefer, I could just shoot them all or gas the homes in which they reside. That would be a minimal impact on population. clay On Sep 12, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: The Chinese are already suffering the curse of the Asian Tiger. Remember in the '80s when you (I was too young) were all crapping yourselves about the Japanese? They were going to come over and buy everything and nothing was going to be made here. Then they got a middle class and their kids got as dumb as our kids and everything settled down. China has an emerging middle class, everybody wants a car and 2.5 kids and an ulcer and wants to be paid a middle class wage. Apple has already said the iPhone 6 will be made in the USA, they'd already figured it would only take a $30 increase in price. Even though the trade laws have relaxed nobody is going to be shipping chicken to China for processing, China is our largest importer of chicken feet. We relaxed the trade restrictions so they wouldn't stiffen theirs. Everybody in China is terrified of their food supply and won't feed anything made in China to their kids. China is ripe for revolution, the party is slowly losing its grip. The USA is still a big manufacturing country, probably #2 in the world (although theres a lot of it depends in there) with most of the stuff being built here being high end as opposed to low end user crap. I've been buying Made in America more and more lately. What are you doing other than crabbing? -Curt Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 00:08:23 -0700 From: clay redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Factoid Message-ID: 782e1892-b577-487e-af64-638411d87...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii They have lived under the reaction to the reaction to the initial offenses of the late 50's. We would have unseated the Saudis had they not been fairly malleable and willing to play as long as we did not mess with them. The Israelis are akin to the persians. They survived the events of Hitler, and have become a very reactionary and dangerous society. The bulk of the population has no personal knowledge of what their grandparents went through, and have built up a mythos based on the stories they are told, not what they have done themselves. Iran has the mythos of our meddling, the rise of the shah, and the reaction that caused the ayatollah to show up. Thirty years on, they have their parents to tell them stories of how it was under the shah, or listen to grandma. In the meanwhile, they are just as greedy for western things as the chinese. It took them 25 years after Nixon to become a viable threat to our economy. In the past 18 years, they have destroyed our industrial base, flooded our markets with garbage and bought up all our debt. We have become enslaved to the chinese. Will it take forty or sixty years before we rise up? clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Blair Brown is Not Raymond Burr
some of the C Burnett shows - especially with Tim Conway at the top of his game - were hilarious. LarryT On 9/12/2013 11:09 PM, clay wrote: IT was good writing that did not depend much upon poopy jokes and blood spurts to keep eyeballs. clay On Sep 12, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Carol Burnett and Bob Newhart I can see but Green Acres? UGH... Have watched some of S1 of Green Acres. Surprisingly funny, and has held up very well. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes enthusiasts reaction to the CLA
Thanks for sharing - that was hilarious! LarryT On 9/13/2013 3:48 AM, Chris James wrote: Just had to share this! Mercedes enthusiasts reaction to the CLA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omkJmE1NwDc ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hirschmann Antenna
Can you get a helper to turn the radio on/off?If it's a Becker grand Prix it should work without the ignition on... LarryT On 9/12/2013 5:20 PM, Frederick Moir wrote: Gary, et alia. That is the prescribed method. I, however, am not fast enough hobbling around the 300TD to insert the antenna into the tube and engage the gears before it times out. Get it? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hirschmann Antenna this would not work? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiE1PTJHEJM On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Do you mean getting the toothed plastic thingie engaged to the innards? I replaced a mast I got from someone on the list, had to take the housing apart to get the whole deal organized. It has a spring-loaded pressure plate sort of thing to grab the coiled plastic shaft to push/pull it. You have to sort of get it arranged in there by casting bones and making various incantations. I think it took a couple of times of fooling with it before it actually worked. --R On 9/12/13 10:43 AM, Frederick Moir wrote: Folks. Has anyone here figured out how to put a new mast in an Hirschmann electric antenna? Other that an Olympic grade sprinter. It times out before I can get around the car to insinuate the rack into the tube. Frustrating! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lower door trim on 124 sedan?
yeah, that's the part - it's the lower third as you described -- has a chrome trim strip along the top. I damaged one of the snap on connectors when I removed the panel to paint it. I found a small nickel size spot of rust on the read door and thought I could fix the spot and touch up the paint. Bzzt wrong. So I decided to try and paint the whole door match was terrible so I ended up painting the whole car! At least it came out pretty good... ;-) LarryT 78 240D 91 300D On 9/12/2013 10:30 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Alex -- I need a lower panel for the rear drivers side door - I can paint it to match -- got one? If so, How Much? Larry, are you talking about the plastic cladding that covers the lower third of the door, below the beltline? If so I'm afraid I can't help you. That started on the '90 or '91 124. Cars before that, like my '86 300E parts car, have plain metal doors. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My Wretched 240D
When mine failed I had to get it back on the road and bought one from the local dealer - it was bad too! They gave me another one but it was a PITA Mine started going bad as I noticed the headlights would dim for 30 seconds or so before they came back - I figured it was the glow plugs or the alternator and after testing the GPR I found which. BTW, the GPR is infinitly easier to RR than the W123 240D!! But they are easy to test... LarryT 78 240D 91 300D On 9/12/2013 12:03 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: You gotta check to make sure the relay is unrelaying after the appointed operational time. This is what happened on the SD a coupla weeks ago with a fairly new relay too. A vexing problem, the shop replaced the alt pack but it still was killing the battery. New relay no problemo now. --R On 9/11/13 11:06 PM, Larry T wrote: Even if the Preglow light is off, the Preglow Relay can still be coming on and staying on or coming on intermittently.The Preglow light only come on during the initial starting sequence... LarryT 78 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB factoid
I got the part from Rusty, $316. and $105 for installation. The local garage doing the installation told me they could only find one in all of US and it was +1,000. I called Rusty and told the garage I can get it for them, thanks to Rusty. I still haven't figured out where it is located though. The old one when taken out looked like new, I sent it back re core charge. Ralph On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:21 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ralph, what was your bill for R R of the cruise cont. amp? $300+? Wilton - Original Message - From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Where is it located in the '87 SDL? Looked for it everywhere, could not find it. Had a garage in Florida replace it, and they never told me where it was on the car! Sure is nice with it working again. Ralph On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:19 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yes, compared to accessing the cruise amp in the SDL, the one in the 300D was VERY easily accessible - sitting up in driver seat with cold air in my face. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Easily accessible is a relative term. It's not bad if you are young, agile, and have eagle vision. Being well past 50, not so flexible anymore, and blind without the correct strength of bifocal or cheater unless I don't have my contacts in (at which point I can only see about six inches), that amp is a pain. Better than the evaporator I still need to put in the 87 300D though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Blair Brown is Not Raymond Burr
I rest my case. I firmly believe that for its time frame that Green Acres was one of the best shows on TV. Simple but solid humor, predictable but out there as well, with a cast that really clicked with their roles to the point where it was so stupid it was almost believable. I don't think they even jumped the shark like many series do towards the end of their run. Maybe I'm a simpleton when it comes to this stuff, but I can watch just about any episode and still find it entertaining today. Dan Velcome to Hootasville, dahling! On Sep 12, 2013, at 11:57 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'm starting to think that green acres is the most underrated show out there andy griffith is king with me but most everyone ranks that near the top. but green acres might be a top show. beverly hillbillies as well. beverly hillbillies really near the very very top. a lot of people think i love lucy is the best, but i find it mediocre at best . groundbreaking and important but i don't like it much On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: i'd rate it [GA] much more highly than the more popular gilligan's island, probably more up there with i dream of jeannie Having recently (re-)seen some of all of these, GA is at the top of my ranking, by far. And when's the last time you saw such a show where the two stars sang their own theme song? -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
Scott Ritchey wrote: My training was to resist as long as possible by any means possible and that was my plan. But then I've never been a POW, although I;\'ve known and worked with a few. In Heinlein's novel Friday, the title character was a top secret courier. She got captured early on, when she returned to home base and found it under enemy control. She sang like a canary, explaining to the readers that it was in her standing orders from her boss. Said that few could resist torture, and only God could resist drugs, so what's the point in getting your body messed up in the process just to save your ego? In actual wartime, if you really know something that will hurt your side when it gets out, it might be important to delay the release of what you know while your side works to mitigate the damage after they realize you were captured. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Factoid
Greg Fiorentino wrote: In the same way, I don't claim to be a military strategy or foreign policy expert. I'm simply pointing to some of the many fumbles and inconsistencies in the actions (policies?) of the current administration. You keep assuming it's an indicator of failure. Have you considered the possibility that the President and his lifelong mentors view US intervention in international matters to be evil and would consider it a good idea to eliminate the USA's ability to throw its weight around worldwide? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wow this looks nice
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SD-Sedan-1979-mercedes-300-sd-diesel-records-immaculate-runs-looks-/141060499614?forcerrptr=truehash=item20d7dc689eitem=141060499614pt=US_Cars_Trucks The mileage badges imply enthusiast ownership. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes enthusiasts reaction to the CLA
Dunno, if they can work some German magic like VW have it could be quite drivable. The '12 Jetta I drove had no detectable torque steer while doing 0-60 in about 9 seconds... -Curt Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 06:07:49 -0400 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes enthusiasts reaction to the CLA Message-ID: 21233650-cdf8-4fe5-bf84-b4be0b471...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The maker of these videos is a riot. He's right on about the FWD. BMW's 1 series is RWD and Mercedes who wants to tap into the younger crowd thinks that building a FWD Mercedes Camry is the answer! Dumbasses! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 3:48 AM, Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote: Just had to share this! Mercedes enthusiasts reaction to the CLA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omkJmE1NwDc ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crab pots
Gerry Archer wrote: That's weird. The scientologists have probably spent several billion dollars buying and building in Clearwater. Big scandal over death of a follower who was kept captive and given one of their treatments. I think they finally settled with the relatives. Amazingly enough, the cult does not seem to be in control of this Wiki entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Lisa_McPherson ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Factoid
For automotive parts I have to agree with you, for other stuff not so much. I've been buying Wigwam socks made in the USA, actually lately I bought Darn Tough socks made a couple hours from here in Vermont. They're more expensive (the Darn Tough are very expensive) but more comfortable and seem to wear better. My hiking boots were made in Italy. Again expensive but we're in year #2 of being worn daily. The soles are going to fail before year 3 is out but to wear 2.5x as long for only x2 money is worth it. They're also still waterproof which never happens after about the 6 month mark with lesser boots. American Apparel is all made in USA. Oh, almost forgot about the Red Wing boots that started me on my made in the USA kick, best work boots I've ever had. -Curt Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 06:22:30 -0400 From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Factoid Message-ID: 5232e766.90...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed it's becoming harder and harder to find stuff _/not /_made in China! With automotive parts I worry about counterfeit parts that make it into the system. Back in the 80s there were a lot of fasteners that looked and were marked like the OEM parts but they failed much earlier than they should. I've been told stuff can be mad in China to high quality but only if the buyer stays vigilant and monitors the whole process. They will cut corners when possible as that puts more money in their pockets... LarryT 78 240D 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crab pots
If you want to burn a few hours, go to the St. Pete Times web site and read some of their series of articles on them. Pretty nasty stuff, not the sort of folks you want pissed off at you. Sad thing is, they pay lots of taxes and have cleaned up downtown St. Pete. Dan On Sep 13, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Gerry Archer wrote: That's weird. The scientologists have probably spent several billion dollars buying and building in Clearwater. Big scandal over death of a follower who was kept captive and given one of their treatments. I think they finally settled with the relatives. Amazingly enough, the cult does not seem to be in control of this Wiki entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Lisa_McPherson ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Factoid
Curt Raymond wrote: With crabs you mean, or people? My wife likes to allow it to people. There are plenty of people out there who, as soon as they hear you have something good going, try to tear it down, tell you all the reasons it won't work. You mean like when some people act as if income disparity is an affront to humanity? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crab pots
Dan Penoff wrote: If you want to burn a few hours, go to the St. Pete Times web site and read some of their series of articles on them. Pretty nasty stuff, not the sort of folks you want pissed off at you. Sad thing is, they pay lots of taxes and have cleaned up downtown St. Pete. Taxes? I thought the IRS commissioner fixed that for them in the 1990s by declaring the whole scam to be a church. One month, our government is calling the cult a commercial enterprise, with the full backing of every federal court that ever made a decision on the subject. The next month, Clinton's department of state is castigating Germany for holding the same opinion of $cientology that we'd held for over 25 years. Ah, yes, here it is: http://www.nytimes.com/1997/03/09/us/scientology-s-puzzling-journey-from-tax-rebel-to-tax-exempt.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_T._Goldberg,_Jr. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Blair Brown is Not Raymond Burr
I don't care all that much for the Lucy show. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 12, 2013, at 10:57 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'm starting to think that green acres is the most underrated show out there andy griffith is king with me but most everyone ranks that near the top. but green acres might be a top show. beverly hillbillies as well. beverly hillbillies really near the very very top. a lot of people think i love lucy is the best, but i find it mediocre at best . groundbreaking and important but i don't like it much On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: i'd rate it [GA] much more highly than the more popular gilligan's island, probably more up there with i dream of jeannie Having recently (re-)seen some of all of these, GA is at the top of my ranking, by far. And when's the last time you saw such a show where the two stars sang their own theme song? -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wow this looks nice
That car has been for sale for months. The red cover somebody painted it. I would be curious what is under the cheap seat covers. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 5:12 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: ThisW140 SD looks in great condition -- has 350K miles! wonder if it has a new engine? Anyway - the engine has a red cam cover - is this stock or owner supplied? LarryT http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SD-TURBODIESEL-1992-92-mercedes-300-sd-turbo-diesel-big-body-sedan-/300964198666?forcerrptr=truehash=item4612dd390aitem=300964198666pt=US_Cars_Trucks On 9/12/2013 10:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SD-Sedan-1979-mercedes-300-sd-diesel-records-immaculate-runs-looks-/141060499614?forcerrptr=truehash=item20d7dc689eitem=141060499614pt=US_Cars_Trucks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB factoid
Cruise control amp? You got ripped off. Depending on which one you need they average about $150 from programa. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 6:11 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: I got the part from Rusty, $316. and $105 for installation. The local garage doing the installation told me they could only find one in all of US and it was +1,000. I called Rusty and told the garage I can get it for them, thanks to Rusty. I still haven't figured out where it is located though. The old one when taken out looked like new, I sent it back re core charge. Ralph On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:21 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ralph, what was your bill for R R of the cruise cont. amp? $300+? Wilton - Original Message - From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Where is it located in the '87 SDL? Looked for it everywhere, could not find it. Had a garage in Florida replace it, and they never told me where it was on the car! Sure is nice with it working again. Ralph On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:19 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yes, compared to accessing the cruise amp in the SDL, the one in the 300D was VERY easily accessible - sitting up in driver seat with cold air in my face. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Easily accessible is a relative term. It's not bad if you are young, agile, and have eagle vision. Being well past 50, not so flexible anymore, and blind without the correct strength of bifocal or cheater unless I don't have my contacts in (at which point I can only see about six inches), that amp is a pain. Better than the evaporator I still need to put in the 87 300D though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB factoid
Cruise control amp? You got ripped off. Depending on which one you need they average about $150 from programa. Was Rusty's new, or repaired? That'd make a big difference. I used to charge $40 +parts to fix 'em, with next to no warrantee. Kept me busy while I looked for work. I think I had ten customers. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Blair Brown is Not Raymond Burr
Re the title of this thread, Blair Brown is also not Blair Underwood. Just a small Blairing error! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Blair Brown is Not Raymond Burr
yep thats it. On 9/12/2013 8:01 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: No. It's where Mr. Douglas is going to get everyone to pitch in to get their apples to market early so they can get the best price. Oliver will make considerably more on his apple crop if he gets it to market first. He hires local high schoolers to pick the fruit and uses their old truck to haul them. As the rickety vehicle suffers numerous breakdowns, the apple prices begin to drop. Finally, Lisa's hotscakes come to the rescue. His beater truck blows a head gasket. They walk to a local diner where Oliver uses the phone to call a garage to effect repairs. Meanwhile, Lisa shows the cook how to make hotscakes by pouring batter into a rectangular pan, then using the lid of a pot to cut out the hotscakes. When she lifts off the excess (cooked) batter, it's in the form of a head gasket. Oliver sees it while he's on the phone to the garage and has an epiphany. Next thing you see is them driving the old trick down the road, with the hotscakes head gasket on the truck. Fin. Sent from my iPad On Sep 12, 2013, at 7:37 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote: At 11:33 AM -0500 9/12/13, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: The only episode that sticks in my memory is the one where they used the pancake cutouts to fix a blown head gasket. Wasn't that the same one where a bear eats one of the hotscakes and runs off into the woods, screaming? -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6661 - Release Date: 09/12/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Factoid
With people. I dont know anything about crabs, we do not have crabs around here, well, not the sea creatures anyway. On 9/12/2013 8:04 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: With crabs you mean, or people? My wife likes to allow it to people. There are plenty of people out there who, as soon as they hear you have something good going, try to tear it down, tell you all the reasons it won't work. You see this a lot if you ride a motorcycle, everybody has to tell you about somebody they know that got hurt or its not if you'll go down, its when you'll go down as if you had no idea it was dangerous... -Curt Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:57:19 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Factoid Message-ID: assp.6967e53b2a.523246cf.3090...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed That seems to happen in real life all the time On 9/12/2013 12:23 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Which reminds me, have any of you ever actually gone crabbing? My wife told me this crab pot theory where if a crab manages to climb to the top of the pot and hook a claw over to climb out all the other crabs will grab on to it in an attempt to also climb out thus dooming the whole lot to the pot as the weight is too much for the one and everybody falls back in. I'm curious if that actually happens... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6661 - Release Date: 09/12/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Blair Brown is Not Raymond Burr
Alice? On 9/12/2013 10:54 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: i'd rate it [GA] much more highly than the more popular gilligan's island, probably more up there with i dream of jeannie Having recently (re-)seen some of all of these, GA is at the top of my ranking, by far. And when's the last time you saw such a show where the two stars sang their own theme song? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6661 - Release Date: 09/12/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Blair Brown is Not Raymond Burr
You mean Jock? Yea, the show was much better with Jim Davis around, but it was still good afterwards. On 9/12/2013 10:29 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i only liked the old man, as he called him jar jim davis or davies maybe? he also was in films with gene autry, btw. i enjoy those B westerns, despite their being pretty fucking shallow and stupid. gene always ends up winning the punch em up with the bad guy and then he sings another song., how can you beat that? On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Since we are speaking about I dream of Jeannie, Dallas was one hell of a show. The reboot is OK I suppose but nothing like the old days. Now that Hagman is dead, I do not know how it will be, if it comes back. On 9/12/2013 12:27 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: it's very well structured. it reflects what happens to a lot of people who are city folk who leave for country life only to discover that the idyllic country they imagined is simply and literally an urban legend. i'd rate it much more highly than the more popular gilligan's island, probably more up there with i dream of jeannie (which i likely overrate as i find the character of dr bellows so compelling) On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Exactly my point. It's amusing and requires little in the way of constructs. Just go along for the ride and enjoy the humor of Eddie Albert always being the straight man. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 12, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i haven't seen green acres in ages but remember being amused by it. it has a decent premise . it also has gene autry's old sidekick, pat butram. On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Why bother? Its on Amazon for $20 a season, on Hulu for free but you get commercials. I haven't bothered to convert anything in years, its too easy to find it done already. I didn't like Green Acres 20 years ago, can't see me linking it now. That said I'll give it a shot... -Curt Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:06:21 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Blair Brown is Not Raymond Burr Message-ID: 2F8E1B39-F803-4B44-99EA-**4fbbfc5a3...@penoff.com2f8e1b39-f803-4b44-99ea-4fbbfc5a3...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a couple of seasons on VHS. I need a VCR to transfer it to digital. Dan On Sep 12, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Carol Burnett and Bob Newhart I can see but Green Acres? UGH... Have watched some of S1 of Green Acres. Surprisingly funny, and has held up very well. -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB factoid
this is for a 300SDL? cruise control amps are readily available for that car. i tend to prefer the beckmann rebuilds but most of the rebuilds are the programa as they are cheaper and produced in large volume. my guess is he sold you a programa rebuild as that is basically what most everyone sells, but if he sent you a beckmann, he stepped up for you. low 300s is pretty standard price for that. and to be clear, i'm not so much anti programa as such, but just prefer a cottage industry type build over some mass produced (possibly offshore, but i'd have to check) rebuild. as for your garage, my guess is that they were talking about a new one from benz rather than a rebuild . it's possible that there would only be 1 at MB at the time. the price they quoted seems a little on the high side too for a new unit On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: I got the part from Rusty, $316. and $105 for installation. The local garage doing the installation told me they could only find one in all of US and it was +1,000. I called Rusty and told the garage I can get it for them, thanks to Rusty. I still haven't figured out where it is located though. The old one when taken out looked like new, I sent it back re core charge. Ralph On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:21 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ralph, what was your bill for R R of the cruise cont. amp? $300+? Wilton - Original Message - From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Where is it located in the '87 SDL? Looked for it everywhere, could not find it. Had a garage in Florida replace it, and they never told me where it was on the car! Sure is nice with it working again. Ralph On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:19 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yes, compared to accessing the cruise amp in the SDL, the one in the 300D was VERY easily accessible - sitting up in driver seat with cold air in my face. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Easily accessible is a relative term. It's not bad if you are young, agile, and have eagle vision. Being well past 50, not so flexible anymore, and blind without the correct strength of bifocal or cheater unless I don't have my contacts in (at which point I can only see about six inches), that amp is a pain. Better than the evaporator I still need to put in the 87 300D though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com*
Re: [MBZ] MB factoid
nah, this one mostly sells for about 300. On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Cruise control amp? You got ripped off. Depending on which one you need they average about $150 from programa. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 6:11 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: I got the part from Rusty, $316. and $105 for installation. The local garage doing the installation told me they could only find one in all of US and it was +1,000. I called Rusty and told the garage I can get it for them, thanks to Rusty. I still haven't figured out where it is located though. The old one when taken out looked like new, I sent it back re core charge. Ralph On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:21 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ralph, what was your bill for R R of the cruise cont. amp? $300+? Wilton - Original Message - From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Where is it located in the '87 SDL? Looked for it everywhere, could not find it. Had a garage in Florida replace it, and they never told me where it was on the car! Sure is nice with it working again. Ralph On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:19 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yes, compared to accessing the cruise amp in the SDL, the one in the 300D was VERY easily accessible - sitting up in driver seat with cold air in my face. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Easily accessible is a relative term. It's not bad if you are young, agile, and have eagle vision. Being well past 50, not so flexible anymore, and blind without the correct strength of bifocal or cheater unless I don't have my contacts in (at which point I can only see about six inches), that amp is a pain. Better than the evaporator I still need to put in the 87 300D though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB factoid
Unit is not visible until the driver side only after under-dash panel is removed; then ya hafta look up under the dashboard and forward above and slightly left of brake pedal. Unit is mounted vertically with the long, narrow sides facing front and aft. Cable plugged into top, short, narrow side. Jim Carey can usually rebuild/resolder them. Others on list have also resoldered them. Because of my tremor, I haven't tried it. 'Glad I got the good unit from the SDL before it left the yard. Wilton - Original Message - From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid I got the part from Rusty, $316. and $105 for installation. The local garage doing the installation told me they could only find one in all of US and it was +1,000. I called Rusty and told the garage I can get it for them, thanks to Rusty. I still haven't figured out where it is located though. The old one when taken out looked like new, I sent it back re core charge. Ralph On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:21 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ralph, what was your bill for R R of the cruise cont. amp? $300+? Wilton - Original Message - From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Where is it located in the '87 SDL? Looked for it everywhere, could not find it. Had a garage in Florida replace it, and they never told me where it was on the car! Sure is nice with it working again. Ralph On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:19 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yes, compared to accessing the cruise amp in the SDL, the one in the 300D was VERY easily accessible - sitting up in driver seat with cold air in my face. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Easily accessible is a relative term. It's not bad if you are young, agile, and have eagle vision. Being well past 50, not so flexible anymore, and blind without the correct strength of bifocal or cheater unless I don't have my contacts in (at which point I can only see about six inches), that amp is a pain. Better than the evaporator I still need to put in the 87 300D though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB factoid
as ralph mentions sending back a core, it would not have been new. there really are no new ones other than high 3 figure/low 4 figure ones from benz On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Cruise control amp? You got ripped off. Depending on which one you need they average about $150 from programa. Was Rusty's new, or repaired? That'd make a big difference. I used to charge $40 +parts to fix 'em, with next to no warrantee. Kept me busy while I looked for work. I think I had ten customers. -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB factoid
I meant Jim CATHEY.' Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Unit is not visible until the driver side only after under-dash panel is removed; then ya hafta look up under the dashboard and forward above and slightly left of brake pedal. Unit is mounted vertically with the long, narrow sides facing front and aft. Cable plugged into top, short, narrow side. Jim Carey can usually rebuild/resolder them. Others on list have also resoldered them. Because of my tremor, I haven't tried it. 'Glad I got the good unit from the SDL before it left the yard. Wilton - Original Message - From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid I got the part from Rusty, $316. and $105 for installation. The local garage doing the installation told me they could only find one in all of US and it was +1,000. I called Rusty and told the garage I can get it for them, thanks to Rusty. I still haven't figured out where it is located though. The old one when taken out looked like new, I sent it back re core charge. Ralph On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:21 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ralph, what was your bill for R R of the cruise cont. amp? $300+? Wilton - Original Message - From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Where is it located in the '87 SDL? Looked for it everywhere, could not find it. Had a garage in Florida replace it, and they never told me where it was on the car! Sure is nice with it working again. Ralph On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:19 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yes, compared to accessing the cruise amp in the SDL, the one in the 300D was VERY easily accessible - sitting up in driver seat with cold air in my face. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Easily accessible is a relative term. It's not bad if you are young, agile, and have eagle vision. Being well past 50, not so flexible anymore, and blind without the correct strength of bifocal or cheater unless I don't have my contacts in (at which point I can only see about six inches), that amp is a pain. Better than the evaporator I still need to put in the 87 300D though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB factoid
Are the Programa guys any good? I see W140 people buying their ACC controller and they seem happy with them. They're not too far from you - I think they're in Boca. Poos On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: this is for a 300SDL? cruise control amps are readily available for that car. i tend to prefer the beckmann rebuilds but most of the rebuilds are the programa as they are cheaper and produced in large volume. my guess is he sold you a programa rebuild as that is basically what most everyone sells, but if he sent you a beckmann, he stepped up for you. low 300s is pretty standard price for that. and to be clear, i'm not so much anti programa as such, but just prefer a cottage industry type build over some mass produced (possibly offshore, but i'd have to check) rebuild. as for your garage, my guess is that they were talking about a new one from benz rather than a rebuild . it's possible that there would only be 1 at MB at the time. the price they quoted seems a little on the high side too for a new unit On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: I got the part from Rusty, $316. and $105 for installation. The local garage doing the installation told me they could only find one in all of US and it was +1,000. I called Rusty and told the garage I can get it for them, thanks to Rusty. I still haven't figured out where it is located though. The old one when taken out looked like new, I sent it back re core charge. Ralph On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:21 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ralph, what was your bill for R R of the cruise cont. amp? $300+? Wilton - Original Message - From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Where is it located in the '87 SDL? Looked for it everywhere, could not find it. Had a garage in Florida replace it, and they never told me where it was on the car! Sure is nice with it working again. Ralph On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:19 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yes, compared to accessing the cruise amp in the SDL, the one in the 300D was VERY easily accessible - sitting up in driver seat with cold air in my face. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Easily accessible is a relative term. It's not bad if you are young, agile, and have eagle vision. Being well past 50, not so flexible anymore, and blind without the correct strength of bifocal or cheater unless I don't have my contacts in (at which point I can only see about six inches), that amp is a pain. Better than the evaporator I still need to put in the 87 300D though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or
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how much did it generally cost parts and labor? As I said, $40 +parts. Usually no parts required. Takes a coupla hours. what kind of feedback [did] you get? They worked. did it last for years? So far as I know. Mine all have. I was surprised at the general lack of interest, but there were a few people that took advantage of my free time. I no longer do this, of course, as I'm employed and have NO time to do ANYTHING now, it seems! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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they are ok. i like beckmann more as they strike me as a serious precision organization that is more about getting it right than anything. however, they are much smaller and not nearly as widely distributed. i have no problem selling programa stuff at all. in fact, if they are in boca, i should probably visit as that is only 30 something miles away On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Are the Programa guys any good? I see W140 people buying their ACC controller and they seem happy with them. They're not too far from you - I think they're in Boca. Poos On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: this is for a 300SDL? cruise control amps are readily available for that car. i tend to prefer the beckmann rebuilds but most of the rebuilds are the programa as they are cheaper and produced in large volume. my guess is he sold you a programa rebuild as that is basically what most everyone sells, but if he sent you a beckmann, he stepped up for you. low 300s is pretty standard price for that. and to be clear, i'm not so much anti programa as such, but just prefer a cottage industry type build over some mass produced (possibly offshore, but i'd have to check) rebuild. as for your garage, my guess is that they were talking about a new one from benz rather than a rebuild . it's possible that there would only be 1 at MB at the time. the price they quoted seems a little on the high side too for a new unit On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: I got the part from Rusty, $316. and $105 for installation. The local garage doing the installation told me they could only find one in all of US and it was +1,000. I called Rusty and told the garage I can get it for them, thanks to Rusty. I still haven't figured out where it is located though. The old one when taken out looked like new, I sent it back re core charge. Ralph On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:21 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ralph, what was your bill for R R of the cruise cont. amp? $300+? Wilton - Original Message - From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Where is it located in the '87 SDL? Looked for it everywhere, could not find it. Had a garage in Florida replace it, and they never told me where it was on the car! Sure is nice with it working again. Ralph On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:19 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yes, compared to accessing the cruise amp in the SDL, the one in the 300D was VERY easily accessible - sitting up in driver seat with cold air in my face. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Easily accessible is a relative term. It's not bad if you are young, agile, and have eagle vision. Being well past 50, not so flexible anymore, and blind without the correct strength of bifocal or cheater unless I don't have my contacts in (at which point I can only see about six inches), that amp is a pain. Better than the evaporator I still need to put in the 87 300D though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.** okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com
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at 40 bucks, there should have been a lot of interest On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: how much did it generally cost parts and labor? As I said, $40 +parts. Usually no parts required. Takes a coupla hours. what kind of feedback [did] you get? They worked. did it last for years? So far as I know. Mine all have. I was surprised at the general lack of interest, but there were a few people that took advantage of my free time. I no longer do this, of course, as I'm employed and have NO time to do ANYTHING now, it seems! -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2013 Ig Nobel Prizes
The awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to President Barack Obama before he had a chance to start a war has cast Nobel prizes into such disrepute that the Ignobel Prizes have risen above them in importance. Here are the 2013 winners: Stargazing dung beetles, mice that survive for longer after heart surgery when they listen to opera, and whether or not you could walk on water on other planets - all of them are serious scientific questions that researchers sweated over for years. On Thursday, their hard work was honoured with possibly one of the most sought-after nods from their scientific peers: an Ig Nobel prize. This is the 23rd year of the awards - a spoof of the even more prestigious Nobel prizes, which will be announced next month. The 10 prizes, organised by the humour magazine Annals of Improbable Research and awarded at Harvard University, honour achievements that first make people laugh, and then make them think. The joint astronomy and biology prize went to Eric Warrant's team at the University of Lund for their discovery that dung beetles navigate using the stars. The researchers had been studying the beetles' ability to roll their balls of dung in straight lines by using the moon as a guide - they use the pattern of polarised light around the moon as a kind of celestial compass. One night, however, the night was moonless yet we noticed the beetles could still orient in straight lines, said Warrant. At first we were shocked and worried that our previous experiments using the moon were wrong. But then looking up we saw the broad stripe of light that is the Milky Way and realised they might be using this as a compass cue. This, it turns out, was the case. Warrant said other nocturnal navigators such as birds and moths may also use the Milky Way as a compass. And there's a potential practical use too, he added. The principles we are uncovering in dung beetle navigation may be useful in the design of autonomous vehicles and robots, although this is likely to be few years off. Masanori Niimi, of Teikyo University in Tokyo, won the medicine prize for his finding that mice given heart transplants survived longer when they listened to particular music. Whereas mice normally survived an average of seven days, those that listened to Verdi's opera La Traviata survived 27 days. Those listening to the Irish singer Enya survived 11 days. Brad Bushman, of Ohio State University, won the psychology prize for confirming the familiar sense of feeling more attractive when you've had a few too many drinks. In his study, participants had to make a speech about how attractive, original and funny they were, which was rated by independent judges. Those who were drunk when they made the speech (and even those who thought they were drunk) gave themselves more positive self-evaluations. But the ratings from independent judges showed this was unrelated to actual performance. Drunk people might think they are more attractive, but they actually are not, said Bushman. This false belief may get drunk people into trouble, for example if they come on too strong to a potential romantic partner because they think they are irresistible. The probability prize was awarded to animal scientists at Scotland's Rural College for making two related discoveries. First, that the longer a cow has been lying down, the more likely that cow will soon stand up, read their citation. And second, that once a cow stands up, you cannot easily predict how soon that cow will lie down again. Bert Tolkamp said he and his colleagues were running several research programmes aimed at improving animal health and welfare. In their award-winning research, they fitted sensors on cows' legs that recorded how long the animals spent standing up or lying down. The physics prize went to a study looking at how weak gravity would have to be on a planet for someone to be able to run across a lake of liquid water without sinking. Alberto Minetti, of the University of Milan, and Yuri Ivanenko, of the Italian Research Hospital, suspended volunteers above a wading pool to simulate their weights on different planets under different gravity fields, and asked them to walk on water. Their results showed people could probably walk across ponds of liquid water on the moon but probably not on Mars. Minetti said: A serious implication is to stimulate thinking about the discrepancy between the (relatively fast) timing of space exploration and the long-lasting evolution that would be required to adapt actual living beings to locomote in different gravity environments. The Ig Nobels were handed out by Nobel prizewinners, including the physics laureates Roy Glauber, Frank Wilczek and Sheldon Glashow. Marc Abrahams, editor of the Annals of Improbable Research and founder of the Ig Nobel awards, was due to end the ceremony with the traditional goodbye: If you didn't win an Ig Nobel prize tonight - and especially if
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Programa on Gary's site for $237; $327 list; $70 core. Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Cruise control amp? You got ripped off. Depending on which one you need they average about $150 from programa. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 6:11 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: I got the part from Rusty, $316. and $105 for installation. The local garage doing the installation told me they could only find one in all of US and it was +1,000. I called Rusty and told the garage I can get it for them, thanks to Rusty. I still haven't figured out where it is located though. The old one when taken out looked like new, I sent it back re core charge. Ralph On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:21 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ralph, what was your bill for R R of the cruise cont. amp? $300+? Wilton - Original Message - From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Where is it located in the '87 SDL? Looked for it everywhere, could not find it. Had a garage in Florida replace it, and they never told me where it was on the car! Sure is nice with it working again. Ralph On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:19 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yes, compared to accessing the cruise amp in the SDL, the one in the 300D was VERY easily accessible - sitting up in driver seat with cold air in my face. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Easily accessible is a relative term. It's not bad if you are young, agile, and have eagle vision. Being well past 50, not so flexible anymore, and blind without the correct strength of bifocal or cheater unless I don't have my contacts in (at which point I can only see about six inches), that amp is a pain. Better than the evaporator I still need to put in the 87 300D though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I was VERY interested; 'had planned to give Jim another chance to excel until I cannibalized goodun from the SDL. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid at 40 bucks, there should have been a lot of interest On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: how much did it generally cost parts and labor? As I said, $40 +parts. Usually no parts required. Takes a coupla hours. what kind of feedback [did] you get? They worked. did it last for years? So far as I know. Mine all have. I was surprised at the general lack of interest, but there were a few people that took advantage of my free time. I no longer do this, of course, as I'm employed and have NO time to do ANYTHING now, it seems! -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Are the Programa guys any good? FWIW, one of my customers' units had a Programa sticker on it. IIRC, it looked like fairly sloppy work inside. My notes: Opened October 4 2006: 8:00 PM: Note: Was obviously resoldered before, at least partially (pushbutton pins). Definitely had the same problem as the last one where the solder didn't stick well to the 2-lead components during resoldering, especially the jumper wires. (There were plenty of signs that the original solder job had something of the same problem.) I used the Dremel wire brush to burnish all the joints, especially the exposed parts of the leads, before beginning resoldering. This definitely helped, the majority of the pins resoldered much easer than the last time. Both lamps work and look good. Unfortunately the last guy to work on it broke off the plastic pin that holds on the thumbwheel. I tried to glue it back together and it made the situation worse. Ran out of time and will have to take another stab at it later. Note: I slotted the broken-off end and used Shoe Goo to glue a small toothy metal spine into the slots. When dry I peeled off all the glue on the outside, which left the pin intact but too wiggly. I then used cyanoacrylate glue to fill the center, then sprayed it with accelerant. When the smoking stopped, the pin was rigid. A little work with the Dremel saw cleaned out the grooves in the side of the pin so it would fit back into the hole in the thumbwheel, then it all went back together correctly. I hooked power to the panel on the bench, and was able to see that the fan speed output behaved as expected. The auxiliary coolant pump output also reacted, as did the monovalve output. The scope showed a pulse train on the diagnostic output that seemed to imply that the sensor inputs were screwed up, as expected. The logic analyzer really wasn't set up to capture this sort of signal, results with it were inconclusive. Still, it appears to be alive after the operation. Without putting it into a car I can't test it any further. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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any kind of mass produced assembly line work on something like this would appear very sloppy when compared to having someone who is willing to take the time to do it right expertly. i'd think a beckmann would look better,. On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Are the Programa guys any good? FWIW, one of my customers' units had a Programa sticker on it. IIRC, it looked like fairly sloppy work inside. My notes: Opened October 4 2006: 8:00 PM: Note: Was obviously resoldered before, at least partially (pushbutton pins). Definitely had the same problem as the last one where the solder didn't stick well to the 2-lead components during resoldering, especially the jumper wires. (There were plenty of signs that the original solder job had something of the same problem.) I used the Dremel wire brush to burnish all the joints, especially the exposed parts of the leads, before beginning resoldering. This definitely helped, the majority of the pins resoldered much easer than the last time. Both lamps work and look good. Unfortunately the last guy to work on it broke off the plastic pin that holds on the thumbwheel. I tried to glue it back together and it made the situation worse. Ran out of time and will have to take another stab at it later. Note: I slotted the broken-off end and used Shoe Goo to glue a small toothy metal spine into the slots. When dry I peeled off all the glue on the outside, which left the pin intact but too wiggly. I then used cyanoacrylate glue to fill the center, then sprayed it with accelerant. When the smoking stopped, the pin was rigid. A little work with the Dremel saw cleaned out the grooves in the side of the pin so it would fit back into the hole in the thumbwheel, then it all went back together correctly. I hooked power to the panel on the bench, and was able to see that the fan speed output behaved as expected. The auxiliary coolant pump output also reacted, as did the monovalve output. The scope showed a pulse train on the diagnostic output that seemed to imply that the sensor inputs were screwed up, as expected. The logic analyzer really wasn't set up to capture this sort of signal, results with it were inconclusive. Still, it appears to be alive after the operation. Without putting it into a car I can't test it any further. -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Paint
Any ideas on where to get some spray paint or something for a 124? I have a new unpainted front impact strip for my 95 E300 and need to paint it to the proper color before installing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB factoid
'Thought we were talking 'bout CRUISE control amp 'til I saw reference to pushbutton and thumbwheel. :) 'Same type stuff, anyway. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Are the Programa guys any good? FWIW, one of my customers' units had a Programa sticker on it. IIRC, it looked like fairly sloppy work inside. My notes: Opened October 4 2006: 8:00 PM: Note: Was obviously resoldered before, at least partially (pushbutton pins). Definitely had the same problem as the last one where the solder didn't stick well to the 2-lead components during resoldering, especially the jumper wires. (There were plenty of signs that the original solder job had something of the same problem.) I used the Dremel wire brush to burnish all the joints, especially the exposed parts of the leads, before beginning resoldering. This definitely helped, the majority of the pins resoldered much easer than the last time. Both lamps work and look good. Unfortunately the last guy to work on it broke off the plastic pin that holds on the thumbwheel. I tried to glue it back together and it made the situation worse. Ran out of time and will have to take another stab at it later. Note: I slotted the broken-off end and used Shoe Goo to glue a small toothy metal spine into the slots. When dry I peeled off all the glue on the outside, which left the pin intact but too wiggly. I then used cyanoacrylate glue to fill the center, then sprayed it with accelerant. When the smoking stopped, the pin was rigid. A little work with the Dremel saw cleaned out the grooves in the side of the pin so it would fit back into the hole in the thumbwheel, then it all went back together correctly. I hooked power to the panel on the bench, and was able to see that the fan speed output behaved as expected. The auxiliary coolant pump output also reacted, as did the monovalve output. The scope showed a pulse train on the diagnostic output that seemed to imply that the sensor inputs were screwed up, as expected. The logic analyzer really wasn't set up to capture this sort of signal, results with it were inconclusive. Still, it appears to be alive after the operation. Without putting it into a car I can't test it any further. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Paint
towerpaint.com Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:56 AM Subject: [MBZ] Paint Any ideas on where to get some spray paint or something for a 124? I have a new unpainted front impact strip for my 95 E300 and need to paint it to the proper color before installing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Factoid
dan stern once told me about the impossibility of getting quality out of china as they cheat every spec and care only about price. you will get the same product as was made in western europe or north america, but always something crappier On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 6:22 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: it's becoming harder and harder to find stuff _/not /_made in China! With automotive parts I worry about counterfeit parts that make it into the system. Back in the 80s there were a lot of fasteners that looked and were marked like the OEM parts but they failed much earlier than they should. I've been told stuff can be mad in China to high quality but only if the buyer stays vigilant and monitors the whole process. They will cut corners when possible as that puts more money in their pockets... LarryT 78 240D 91 300D On 9/12/2013 11:08 PM, clay wrote: I do not support the chinese economy if I am at all able. I want first world parts, and first world quality. There is a large influx of affluent orientals coming to my county. They are not yearning to breath free, other than to not suffocate on the air they breath. They are a stimulus, in that their purchasing power rivals that of the 1%. They snag high end euro cars, expensive luxury goods and live high on the hog. These are university students. They may even return to the home land and become good members of the party, until the party is over. I suspect they would rather stay here and live a more healthy life while daddy pays the bills. If you prefer, I could just shoot them all or gas the homes in which they reside. That would be a minimal impact on population. clay On Sep 12, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: The Chinese are already suffering the curse of the Asian Tiger. Remember in the '80s when you (I was too young) were all crapping yourselves about the Japanese? They were going to come over and buy everything and nothing was going to be made here. Then they got a middle class and their kids got as dumb as our kids and everything settled down. China has an emerging middle class, everybody wants a car and 2.5 kids and an ulcer and wants to be paid a middle class wage. Apple has already said the iPhone 6 will be made in the USA, they'd already figured it would only take a $30 increase in price. Even though the trade laws have relaxed nobody is going to be shipping chicken to China for processing, China is our largest importer of chicken feet. We relaxed the trade restrictions so they wouldn't stiffen theirs. Everybody in China is terrified of their food supply and won't feed anything made in China to their kids. China is ripe for revolution, the party is slowly losing its grip. The USA is still a big manufacturing country, probably #2 in the world (although theres a lot of it depends in there) with most of the stuff being built here being high end as opposed to low end user crap. I've been buying Made in America more and more lately. What are you doing other than crabbing? -Curt Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 00:08:23 -0700 From: clay redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Factoid Message-ID: 782E1892-B577-487E-AF64-**638411d87...@comcast.net782e1892-b577-487e-af64-638411d87...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii They have lived under the reaction to the reaction to the initial offenses of the late 50's. We would have unseated the Saudis had they not been fairly malleable and willing to play as long as we did not mess with them. The Israelis are akin to the persians. They survived the events of Hitler, and have become a very reactionary and dangerous society. The bulk of the population has no personal knowledge of what their grandparents went through, and have built up a mythos based on the stories they are told, not what they have done themselves. Iran has the mythos of our meddling, the rise of the shah, and the reaction that caused the ayatollah to show up. Thirty years on, they have their parents to tell them stories of how it was under the shah, or listen to grandma. In the meanwhile, they are just as greedy for western things as the chinese. It took them 25 years after Nixon to become a viable threat to our economy. In the past 18 years, they have destroyed our industrial base, flooded our markets with garbage and bought up all our debt. We have become enslaved to the chinese. Will it take forty or sixty years before we rise up? clay __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search
Re: [MBZ] MB factoid
how much did it generally cost parts and labor? what kind of feedback you get? did it last for years? On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Cruise control amp? You got ripped off. Depending on which one you need they average about $150 from programa. Was Rusty's new, or repaired? That'd make a big difference. I used to charge $40 +parts to fix 'em, with next to no warrantee. Kept me busy while I looked for work. I think I had ten customers. -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling
One of my favorite novels... -Curt Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:12:31 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts is dead drunk and rattling Message-ID: 5233012f.7080...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Scott Ritchey wrote: My training was to resist as long as possible by any means possible and that was my plan. But then I've never been a POW, although I;\'ve known and worked with a few. In Heinlein's novel Friday, the title character was a top secret courier. She got captured early on, when she returned to home base and found it under enemy control. She sang like a canary, explaining to the readers that it was in her standing orders from her boss. Said that few could resist torture, and only God could resist drugs, so what's the point in getting your body messed up in the process just to save your ego? In actual wartime, if you really know something that will hurt your side when it gets out, it might be important to delay the release of what you know while your side works to mitigate the damage after they realize you were captured. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB factoid
he's not offended. in fact, he just told me sometimes milton gets my name wrong, but i'm ok with that On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:20 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I meant Jim CATHEY.' Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Unit is not visible until the driver side only after under-dash panel is removed; then ya hafta look up under the dashboard and forward above and slightly left of brake pedal. Unit is mounted vertically with the long, narrow sides facing front and aft. Cable plugged into top, short, narrow side. Jim Carey can usually rebuild/resolder them. Others on list have also resoldered them. Because of my tremor, I haven't tried it. 'Glad I got the good unit from the SDL before it left the yard. Wilton - Original Message - From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid I got the part from Rusty, $316. and $105 for installation. The local garage doing the installation told me they could only find one in all of US and it was +1,000. I called Rusty and told the garage I can get it for them, thanks to Rusty. I still haven't figured out where it is located though. The old one when taken out looked like new, I sent it back re core charge. Ralph On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:21 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ralph, what was your bill for R R of the cruise cont. amp? $300+? Wilton - Original Message - From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Where is it located in the '87 SDL? Looked for it everywhere, could not find it. Had a garage in Florida replace it, and they never told me where it was on the car! Sure is nice with it working again. Ralph On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:19 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yes, compared to accessing the cruise amp in the SDL, the one in the 300D was VERY easily accessible - sitting up in driver seat with cold air in my face. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB factoid Easily accessible is a relative term. It's not bad if you are young, agile, and have eagle vision. Being well past 50, not so flexible anymore, and blind without the correct strength of bifocal or cheater unless I don't have my contacts in (at which point I can only see about six inches), that amp is a pain. Better than the evaporator I still need to put in the 87 300D though. Peter __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/** archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/** listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.**comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/** archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/**listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz. **comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] MB factoid
i haven't yet made that ride, but it is on my list of things to do On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: in fact, if they are in boca, i should probably visit as that is only 30 something miles away That would be a nice bicycle ride. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Paint
So what do I need for bumper trim, lacquer, acrylic, water based, they have several different types, all are expensive. On 9/13/2013 9:58 AM, WILTON wrote: towerpaint.com Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:56 AM Subject: [MBZ] Paint Any ideas on where to get some spray paint or something for a 124? I have a new unpainted front impact strip for my 95 E300 and need to paint it to the proper color before installing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3408 / Virus Database: 3222/6662 - Release Date: 09/13/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Blair Brown is Not Raymond Burr
The Heights? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heights_(TV_series) Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Alice? On 9/12/2013 10:54 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: i'd rate it [GA] much more highly than the more popular gilligan's island, probably more up there with i dream of jeannie Having recently (re-)seen some of all of these, GA is at the top of my ranking, by far. And when's the last time you saw such a show where the two stars sang their own theme song? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A bit OT: ARRRGH, stupid Jetta!
Did you disconnect the negative battery terminal when you welded on the car? Could you have fried some circuit somewhere? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: You may remember my buying a '98 Jetta last week. At first everything was happiness and smiles. I got a new battery, fixed some rust, figured out the sunroof and internal light problems but now a real challenge has arisen. No headlights, daytime running lights, high beams, turn signals, emergency flashers, wipers, or washers. Strange no? Common wisdom seemed to indicate that this was the ignition switch, the electrical part behind the lock. Easy enough to replace EXCEPT the screw is hidden until you take the lock portion out. I won't go into details but suffice to say this led me to a junkyard for a new steering column and lock assembly... Anyway today dodging thunderstorms (we had some real corkers yesterday) I managed to get everything installed with the new ignition switch and nothing has changed... Car starts fine, has power, turbo spools up. I *think* my fatal error came when I was troubleshooting the blowing of fuse #21 (sunroof et al) which led me to mess around the fuse box and now I hope I haven't screwed myself. Why do I play with old cars? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Blair Brown is Not Raymond Burr
Came out in August '92, died in November. I probably would have quickly forgotten it but I liked the theme song (which was #1 on the charts until the week before they killed the show). Official EMI music video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csATriX8Ed0 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Never heard of it On 9/13/2013 10:49 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: The Heights? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heights_(TV_series) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A bit OT: ARRRGH, stupid Jetta!
Something loose in fuse box? All those inop systems on same fuse? Ya SURE the fuse is good? Wilt - Original Message - From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] A bit OT: ARRRGH, stupid Jetta! Did you disconnect the negative battery terminal when you welded on the car? Could you have fried some circuit somewhere? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: You may remember my buying a '98 Jetta last week. At first everything was happiness and smiles. I got a new battery, fixed some rust, figured out the sunroof and internal light problems but now a real challenge has arisen. No headlights, daytime running lights, high beams, turn signals, emergency flashers, wipers, or washers. Strange no? Common wisdom seemed to indicate that this was the ignition switch, the electrical part behind the lock. Easy enough to replace EXCEPT the screw is hidden until you take the lock portion out. I won't go into details but suffice to say this led me to a junkyard for a new steering column and lock assembly... Anyway today dodging thunderstorms (we had some real corkers yesterday) I managed to get everything installed with the new ignition switch and nothing has changed... Car starts fine, has power, turbo spools up. I *think* my fatal error came when I was troubleshooting the blowing of fuse #21 (sunroof et al) which led me to mess around the fuse box and now I hope I haven't screwed myself. Why do I play with old cars? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A bit OT: ARRRGH, stupid Jetta!
Don't these cars have a master relay or something similar that can die? Back in the day some folks would carry a spare. On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:51 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Something loose in fuse box? All those inop systems on same fuse? Ya SURE the fuse is good? Wilt - Original Message - From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] A bit OT: ARRRGH, stupid Jetta! Did you disconnect the negative battery terminal when you welded on the car? Could you have fried some circuit somewhere? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: You may remember my buying a '98 Jetta last week. At first everything was happiness and smiles. I got a new battery, fixed some rust, figured out the sunroof and internal light problems but now a real challenge has arisen. No headlights, daytime running lights, high beams, turn signals, emergency flashers, wipers, or washers. Strange no? Common wisdom seemed to indicate that this was the ignition switch, the electrical part behind the lock. Easy enough to replace EXCEPT the screw is hidden until you take the lock portion out. I won't go into details but suffice to say this led me to a junkyard for a new steering column and lock assembly... Anyway today dodging thunderstorms (we had some real corkers yesterday) I managed to get everything installed with the new ignition switch and nothing has changed... Car starts fine, has power, turbo spools up. I *think* my fatal error came when I was troubleshooting the blowing of fuse #21 (sunroof et al) which led me to mess around the fuse box and now I hope I haven't screwed myself. Why do I play with old cars? -Curt __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A bit OT: ARRRGH, stupid Jetta!
Oh, yes, and it's still GREAT to get into the air. I love take off's and landings, and most of the in between stuff as well. I have a minor oil seepage that is spraying onto my NEW windshield that is driving me crazy, as well as intermittant hash noise i the intercom. Otherwise, I've got it sorted out and doing just fine. Curt - did you REPLACE all the FUSES??? On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:16 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Remember how good that first test flight after resurrection felt? Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] A bit OT: ARRRGH, stupid Jetta! Masochism. I traded old cars for old airplanes - from the pan to the fire? -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Scientology-Clearwater, Florida
Supposedly they have their own police force in Clearwater. Gerry From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com If you want to burn a few hours, go to the St. Pete Times web site and read some of their series of articles on them. Pretty nasty stuff, not the sort of folks you want pissed off at you. Sad thing is, they pay lots of taxes and have cleaned up downtown St. Pete. Dan On Sep 13, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Gerry Archer wrote: That's weird. The scientologists have probably spent several billion dollars buying and building in Clearwater. Big scandal over death of a follower who was kept captive and given one of their treatments. I think they finally settled with the relatives. Amazingly enough, the cult does not seem to be in control of this Wiki entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Lisa_McPherson ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3222/6161 - Release Date: 09/12/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crab pots
I find it amazing that a thread about crab pots turned into something about Scientology. Xenu might be a crab? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crab pots
Gerry Archer wrote: That's weird. The scientologists have probably spent several billion dollars buying and building in Clearwater. Big scandal over death of a follower who was kept captive and given one of their treatments. I think they finally settled with the relatives. Amazingly enough, the cult does not seem to be in control of this Wiki entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Lisa_McPherson The cult is very secretive, but when someone dies and the victims relatives sue, its probably difficult to keep it secret. https://www.google.com/#q=lisa+mcpherson+tampa+bay+times ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crab pots
There's a LOT of talent in this group, we can morph anything into anything else. Lead to gold will be next :-) On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I find it amazing that a thread about crab pots turned into something about Scientology. Xenu might be a crab? --R -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A bit OT: ARRRGH, stupid Jetta!
Make SURE all of the FUSES have been RENEWED. Bob R Who is hoping some will understand the reference On Sep 13, 2013 9:51 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Something loose in fuse box? All those inop systems on same fuse? Ya SURE the fuse is good? Wilt - Original Message - From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] A bit OT: ARRRGH, stupid Jetta! Did you disconnect the negative battery terminal when you welded on the car? Could you have fried some circuit somewhere? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: You may remember my buying a '98 Jetta last week. At first everything was happiness and smiles. I got a new battery, fixed some rust, figured out the sunroof and internal light problems but now a real challenge has arisen. No headlights, daytime running lights, high beams, turn signals, emergency flashers, wipers, or washers. Strange no? Common wisdom seemed to indicate that this was the ignition switch, the electrical part behind the lock. Easy enough to replace EXCEPT the screw is hidden until you take the lock portion out. I won't go into details but suffice to say this led me to a junkyard for a new steering column and lock assembly... Anyway today dodging thunderstorms (we had some real corkers yesterday) I managed to get everything installed with the new ignition switch and nothing has changed... Car starts fine, has power, turbo spools up. I *think* my fatal error came when I was troubleshooting the blowing of fuse #21 (sunroof et al) which led me to mess around the fuse box and now I hope I haven't screwed myself. Why do I play with old cars? -Curt __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crab pots
Rich Thomas wrote: I find it amazing that a thread about crab pots turned into something about Scientology. My fault, but Gerry set me off by talking about Crab Pots in Clearwater, which got me thinking about $cam Religion$ For Clam$ in Clearwater. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A bit OT: ARRRGH, stupid Jetta!
Did you post your problem on one of the Jetta TDI forums? https://www.google.com/#q=jetta+tdi+forum Gerry On Sep 13, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: You may remember my buying a '98 Jetta last week. At first everything was happiness and smiles. I got a new battery, fixed some rust, figured out the sunroof and internal light problems but now a real challenge has arisen. No headlights, daytime running lights, high beams, turn signals, emergency flashers, wipers, or washers. Strange no? Common wisdom seemed to indicate that this was the ignition switch, the electrical part behind the lock. Easy enough to replace EXCEPT the screw is hidden until you take the lock portion out. I won't go into details but suffice to say this led me to a junkyard for a new steering column and lock assembly... Anyway today dodging thunderstorms (we had some real corkers yesterday) I managed to get everything installed with the new ignition switch and nothing has changed... Car starts fine, has power, turbo spools up. I *think* my fatal error came when I was troubleshooting the blowing of fuse #21 (sunroof et al) which led me to mess around the fuse box and now I hope I haven't screwed myself. Why do I play with old cars? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3222/6162 - Release Date: 09/13/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Diesel Pee Pee
Seems like there should be aftermarket urea available by now. http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1042727_adding-urea-to-clean-diesel-cars-can-i-just-pee-in-the-tank ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT watering deep
'Bout to ask about that coupla days ago, but let it go. 'Doubt you need water under pressure. Have ya tried a sprinkler or soaker hose in the necessary area? Wilt - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:17 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT watering deep Some of you may recall my query a year or two ago about what I might do about too much moisture in my garage. I did learn that covering the surface of the table saw and jointer out at the lake with a sheet of tar paper helped a lot. I did that last fall and this spring, they were better than the previous year and I think things were as wet this spring as last. I have a new issue that is sort of the opposite. The ground around my house is too dry and that is causing some shifting. Doors are sticking and it is obvious that the south side of the house is down somewhat - not really visible to the eye or noticable when one walks accross the floor, but put a level on the floor and it is surprising how much it is down. We added on to that side of the house in 1987. The original basement is still reasonably level but the addition has sagged somewhat on the outer edge away from the basement. The basement has footings and a poured concrete wall. The addition is built on piles and a gradebeam. There are a number of bell piles and a couple of straight piles as there were a couple of spots where there was water coming in when they drilled and they were not able to bell the bottom. Here in the Red River Valley we have lots of good old clay gumbo. It swells when wet and shrinks when dry. It has been dry. I have been wondering how I might introduce more water down near the level of the footings to see if that might help to move the house back into level or at the very least, prevent it from getting any worse. I can live with it the way it is if I have to but I would not want it to get much worse. That would pose issues that would be more visible. I see tree root feeders but I don't know if they are long enough to go that deep. I also wonder about creating cavities if one pumps water in under pressure. Anyone have experience in this sort of thing or good ideas? I also wonder about a sort of reverse French drain. Could I drill some fence post holes deep, fill them with a pipe liner and stone and just pour water on them from above? Or do you think I would need pressure to make the water go down the hole? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Pee Pee
On Sep 13, 2013 11:32 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Seems like there should be aftermarket urea available by now. I've seen it in gallon jugs at my local NAPA. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Factoid
I think Israelis have sufficient daily reminders of threats to their existence without considering the holocaust. -Original Message- clay Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:08 AM ...The Israelis are akin to the persians. They survived the events of Hitler, and have become a very reactionary and dangerous society. The bulk of the population has no personal knowledge of what their grandparents went through, and have built up a mythos based on the stories they are told, not what they have done themselves. ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT watering deep
In Houston the soil is gumbo, and I used to hear everyone talk about watering their foundations but never knew anyone who did it. But since gumbo is fairly water-resistant you need something very slow to get water into it if indeed you want to water your foundation. The best thing would be that soaker hose that is porous and water just sorta slowly oozes out of it. Put a timer on the faucet so you can set how much and when. --R On 9/13/13 3:26 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: We have been pouring water on the surface via sprinkler etc. Also have a big maple tree about there that no doubt consumes a fair amount of water and 2 elms in the back that would do the same. Don't want to cut the trees out so need to find a way to water more effectively. Randy On 13/09/2013 1:34 PM, WILTON wrote: 'Bout to ask about that coupla days ago, but let it go. 'Doubt you need water under pressure. Have ya tried a sprinkler or soaker hose in the necessary area? Wilt - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:17 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT watering deep Some of you may recall my query a year or two ago about what I might do about too much moisture in my garage. I did learn that covering the surface of the table saw and jointer out at the lake with a sheet of tar paper helped a lot. I did that last fall and this spring, they were better than the previous year and I think things were as wet this spring as last. I have a new issue that is sort of the opposite. The ground around my house is too dry and that is causing some shifting. Doors are sticking and it is obvious that the south side of the house is down somewhat - not really visible to the eye or noticable when one walks accross the floor, but put a level on the floor and it is surprising how much it is down. We added on to that side of the house in 1987. The original basement is still reasonably level but the addition has sagged somewhat on the outer edge away from the basement. The basement has footings and a poured concrete wall. The addition is built on piles and a gradebeam. There are a number of bell piles and a couple of straight piles as there were a couple of spots where there was water coming in when they drilled and they were not able to bell the bottom. Here in the Red River Valley we have lots of good old clay gumbo. It swells when wet and shrinks when dry. It has been dry. I have been wondering how I might introduce more water down near the level of the footings to see if that might help to move the house back into level or at the very least, prevent it from getting any worse. I can live with it the way it is if I have to but I would not want it to get much worse. That would pose issues that would be more visible. I see tree root feeders but I don't know if they are long enough to go that deep. I also wonder about creating cavities if one pumps water in under pressure. Anyone have experience in this sort of thing or good ideas? I also wonder about a sort of reverse French drain. Could I drill some fence post holes deep, fill them with a pipe liner and stone and just pour water on them from above? Or do you think I would need pressure to make the water go down the hole? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
