date:20131123

Yes, Victorinox...I forgot to mention my fairly new Victorinox chef's knife.
A very high quality low-cost knife.

Greg

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Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 9:19 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 15:36:09 -0800 "Greg Fiorentino"
 wrote:

> How about cutlery?  How do the snobs (count me in that group!) opine 
> on kitchen knives?

We have a set of R.H. Forschner Co. Victorinox, including an 8" slicing
knife, a 6" boning knife, and a 10" chefs knife, among others. They are
wood-handled with three rivets in the handles. I bought them in the early
80s, so they are 30+ years old now. I really like the 10" chef's knife.

For paring knife duty, we have three Victorinox plastic-handled knives with
3" blades I got off eBay. Plus an assortment of cheap knives.

For keeping them sharp, we have a 12" ---> FDICK steel.

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1980 240D Throttle Linkage

Photos of my son's 240D throttle linkage sent off list.

Greg

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Rentfro
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1980 240D Throttle Linkage

I need where the rod coming thru the firewall (from the accelerator)
connects to the manual shutoff lever. That is where it is broken. I'll snap
a pic later.

Bob R
On Nov 14, 2013 12:24 PM, "Greg Fiorentino"  wrote:

> My son has a 3-pedal 1980 240D.  I recall that we had to replace a 
> part of the linkage on the firewall.  I'm not sure what you're asking 
> for, but if you specify we can get you some pix and possibly some part #s.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bob 
> Rentfro
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:51 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: 1980 240D Throttle Linkage
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: 
> Date: Nov 14, 2013 9:42 AM
> Subject: 1980 240D Throttle Linkage
> To: 
> Cc:
>
>  I need this linkage I think:
>
> *
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/78043-plot-thick
> ens-2 40d-engine-tranny-swap-california-emissions-car.html*<
> http://www.peachparts.
>
> com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/78043-plot-thickens-240d-engine-tranny
> -swap-
> california-emissions-car.html>
>
> *
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/78043-plot-thick
> ens-2 40d-engine-tranny-swap-california-emissions-car.html*<
> http://www.peachparts.
>
> com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/78043-plot-thickens-240d-engine-tranny
> -swap-
> california-emissions-car.html>
>
>
> Mine is all broken. I have no idea how it is supposed to look because 
> it was all jacked up when I bought the car. It's on my 1980 240D 
> manual. I have heard that the 1980 240D linkage is unique and I'm not 
> sure that this is a picture of an 1980 240D linkage.
> Anyone have a clue about this?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-23 Thread Fmiser

> > > Andrew wrote:
> > >
> > > When I drain/refill do I have to change the filter too?  I
> > > idled it for 5 minutes max and drove it from the alley back
> > > to the front of the house.

> > dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > Yes.

> Andrew wrote:
> 
> That's an inconvenient answer.

You don't have to.   But it's your engine.

--   Philip 

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Re: [MBZ] Jeep Alternator Brushes?

2013-11-23 Thread Brian Toscano

I opted for the rebuilt unit.  Appeared identical.  It was challenging to
RR because the alternator is right against the frame rail.  The brushes
were very worn.  I did see a source of brushes online for $26.  I hadn't
yet seen Dans email about Ace hardware.  The engine seems quieter now.  I
think the alternator may have been the source of an intermittent startup
squeal.  I don't believe the belt was loose or needing adjustment.  Glad
it's done.

On Saturday, November 23, 2013, WILTON wrote:

> Only 300 k?  'Can't depend on anything any more.
>
> Wilt
>
> - Original Message - From: "Brian Toscano" <
> brian.tosc...@gmail.com>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 12:01 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] Jeep Alternator Brushes?
>
>
>  I'm getting intermittent charging on my 2001 Jeep Cherokee.  This behavior
>> started yesterday.  Today it was fine all day until after I started it up
>> after eating dinner.  Then it was around the 9 V and the check gauges
>> light
>> came on.  It worked fine the next two starts, but then I stopped for gas
>> on
>> the way home and it low again.  Volt meter shows 10.8 V when things aren't
>> working right.  Beat the alternator with a steel drift and it jumped back
>> to 13.4 V.  This is the original alternator, over 30 miles.  Does
>> anyone know if this era of Bosch alternators has brushes that can be
>> replaced as easy a Mercedes?  If so, where the brushes could be purchased?
>> Are Bosch remans at Mc Parts worth a bit more than double the price?  The
>> lower cost units are around $127. Bosch is $250-290..
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Re: [MBZ] iPad Air catches fire; fire department called.

On Nov 23, 2013 6:52 PM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:
>
> Burning computers, burning cars.
>  Welcome to the battery age.
>

Whine, whine.  As if cars powered by hydrocarbons never catch fire.

IC engines are dead--in 50 years they will seem as quaint as steam power.
Biodiesel and fracking might stretch that out a little, but the era of
all-electric transportation is nigh.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Long shot missed

On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 21:51:44 -0500 "Gerry Archer"
 wrote:

> FWIW:
> If I were in Craigs position I would vounteer as a physics, chemistry,
> or science teachers aid at a local high school; without pay if
> necessary.  Then I would be sure and include that prominently on my CV
> in further applications; and if the schools Craig has already applied
> to again need a physicist, I would send in an updated application with
> the current work at the high school prominently displayed and the
> application titled: "UPDATED APPLICATION".
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume that Craig has had no recent
> experience teaching high school students physics, and that
> applicants who have are the ones who got the jobs for which Craig
> applied. At a small college Craig would very likely be teaching
> students who are less than one year out of high school, so the teachers
> aid experience could be very valuable to him after he finds such a job.

Interesting idea!

Thanks, Gerry.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 15:36:09 -0800 "Greg Fiorentino"
 wrote:

> How about cutlery?  How do the snobs (count me in that group!) opine on
> kitchen knives?

We have a set of R.H. Forschner Co. Victorinox, including an 8" slicing
knife, a 6" boning knife, and a 10" chefs knife, among others. They are
wood-handled with three rivets in the handles. I bought them in the early
80s, so they are 30+ years old now. I really like the 10" chef's knife.

For paring knife duty, we have three Victorinox plastic-handled knives
with 3" blades I got off eBay. Plus an assortment of cheap knives.

For keeping them sharp, we have a 12" ---> FDICK steel.

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

2013-11-23 Thread OK Don

I read in a review (no claim of validity) that the earlier kitchenaids were
made bu Hobart, who sold the brand to Whirlpool recently (last 10 years or
so?). I expect that quality would suffer, though our old one has a
mechanical fly weight based PWM-like speed control, and the new ones have
electronic PWM speed control. I would think that the new speed controls
would be better, and generate much less RF interference. I have to stop
operating when my wife is kneading bread with it, but it's worth the
interruption!

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:20 PM, David Bruckmann <
bruckma...@transcontinental.ca> wrote:

> Apparently the ones from 1965 are built to last, the modern ones not so
> much. Lots of drivetrain issues, I'm lead to understand. Mine certainly
> seems rather poorly constructed with a lot of movement of the machine body,
> suggesting that something is seriously out of round.
>
> I suspect Kitchen Aid has been coasting along on the reputation of those
> early mixers just like Mercedes-Benz has been coasting on the reputation of
> the W123, the last truly dependable and simple MB, IMHO.
>
>

-- 
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Re: [MBZ] Tar

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 8:37 PM, clay  wrote:

> They should have left the Trojan plant active.  Damn green weenees.  Could
> have cheap electrons and high tech jobs.
>
>
>
Yup.  And the latter is what I agitate for whenever I go to a town meeting
or "yell at your state congresscritter" type of event. People here are
mostly stuck on the idea that the only thing that will fix the economic
problems of the rural Northwest, which has been a mess for twenty-some
years, is for federal restrictions on logging to be lifted, bringing all
the old timber jobs back. Ain't gonna happen, sez I.   I don't want
Columbia County to turn into the next Silicon Forest with an Intel chip
plant around every corner, but it has potential to become a high-tech
telecommuting hub, if people would get their act together and extend the
Internet backbone that runs down the I-5 corridor out along the Columbia.
 Or we could become leaders in biodiesel production or something.  Just as
long as it's forward-looking, not backward.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Tar

They should have left the Trojan plant active.  Damn green weenees.  Could have 
cheap electrons and high tech jobs.  

clay

On Nov 23, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> Yes, in the country about 25 miles northwest of Portland.
>>> 
>> 
>> My old stompin' grounds!  You talking St. Helens?  Or something
>> more Woodland-ey?  I suppose I should remember...
> 
> 
> Near St. Helens.  It smells a lot better than you probably remember, since
> the plywood mill closed.  Of course, now nobody has a job.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Oregon [was: Re: Tar]

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Craig  wrote:

> I was going to reply, "You mean there is actually country near Portland?",
> but I looked on Google Maps and saw that that is really the case.
>
>
Well, the country has to start somewhere, doesn't it?  ;)

Portland's suburbs are tightly constrained by a controversial draconian
anti-sprawl law enacted in the '70s called the Urban Growth Boundary--to
overgeneralize, inside the UGB is all row houses and infill development,
outside is all ranch land, federally protected forest, and wineries.
 Beyond that, Oregon's far less populous than either Washington or
California.  The greater Portland metropolitan area is the only densely
populated area in the state (although Bend in the south-central part of the
state is getting there, thanks to lots of Californian retirees).

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

Apparently the ones from 1965 are built to last, the modern ones not so much. 
Lots of drivetrain issues, I'm lead to understand. Mine certainly seems rather 
poorly constructed with a lot of movement of the machine body, suggesting that 
something is seriously out of round. 

I suspect Kitchen Aid has been coasting along on the reputation of those early 
mixers just like Mercedes-Benz has been coasting on the reputation of the W123, 
the last truly dependable and simple MB, IMHO. 

On Nov 23, 2013, Peter Frederick wrote:
> 
> Kitchen Aids rock!  We have two, the one my Aunt got for us in about 1965 and 
> the one she had of the same vintage, right after they started selling home 
> kitchen stuff.  Both still run, although they both need some work (new gear 
> set on the tilting one from my aunt and a new switch for the other one).
> 
> Probably the oldest ones around here according to the repair service when we 
> had a gear set put in 30 years or so ago.
> 
> I'm not sure how I would manage without them.
> 
> Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Tar

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

>
>>  Yes, in the country about 25 miles northwest of Portland.
>>
>
> My old stompin' grounds!  You talking St. Helens?  Or something
> more Woodland-ey?  I suppose I should remember...

Near St. Helens.  It smells a lot better than you probably remember, since
the plywood mill closed.  Of course, now nobody has a job.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Tar

Long Beach is a great place for razor clamming.  Incredible food!

Greg

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Man
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tar

Alex wrote:
> Yes, in the country about 25 miles northwest of Portland.
>

Do you know Long Beach Washington?  My son was interested in a job there
several years ago.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

And you should drain the oil cooler as well. There's a drain plug. Washer is an 
odd size though. 

But worth establishing that what you saw in the oil was indeed unusual. Get 
some more from a different store and compare how it looks...

On Nov 23, 2013, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> 
> When I drain/refill do I have to change the filter too?  I idled it for 5 
> minutes max and drove it from the alley back to the front of the house.

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Re: [MBZ] Tar

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> Alex wrote:
> > Yes, in the country about 25 miles northwest of Portland.
> >
>
> Do you know Long Beach Washington?  My son was interested in a job
> there several years ago.
> mao
>
>
A bit of a slum, but cheap living if you don't mind the sales tax.  The
Oregon side of the mouth of the Columbia is much nicer.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

Thanks for the interesting comments.  Yes, K-Bar certainly has a long
reputation!

 << Asian very hard thin knives must be handled very carefully or they chip
badly...>>

Well, all good knives need to be handled carefully, but the laminated
structure of the Shun knives provides a great deal of toughness, as does the
VG10 alloy.  Also, they are not at all cheap, and I only have them because I
got them at an excellent (but still pretty expensive) price.

Water stones are a bit fiddly for me, I am able to get good sharpness from
my knives with simpler, quicker methods.

Greg

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Frederick
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:29 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

I've not tried the Asian knives other than a very cheap Santoku set for fun
and a cheap Korean carbon steel knife to see if I like that style.  I'm  not
impressed enough to do more than sharpen my Chicago Cutlery stainless stuff.
It serves me well, although they all need another trip to the waterstones
again, I didn't get them to the state I'd prefer the first time.

Knives are a pretty personal thing, you need to have the ones that fit how
and what you do with them. Asian very hard thin knives must be handled very
carefully or they chip badly, and sharpening them is definitely an art you
must learn or they are pretty much mediocre.

If you or another member of your household tends to band knives around,
stick with decent quality stainless European style knives, it will save you
a ton of grief and they will work well enough.  If you can keep the knives
out of other people's hands, you may prefer Asian style knives as they are
generally shaper and cut better with less daily maintenance (using a knife
steel).

  As I said, I'm perfectly happy with my standard Chicago Cutlery  
stuff, but it's all made in the USA, meaning it's 30 years old or so.   
New stuff is pretty much junk for the most part unless you spend a pile of
cash.

My absolute favorite knife is a K-BAR small utility knife.  Looks like a
miniature chef's knife.  Mother never used it because she could never get it
sharp on an Arkansas stone.  Once I ran it over the waterstones, it cuts
like crazy and has stayed sharp for six months now even though I use it to
take chickens apart regularly.  Wonderful knife, I need to keep looking for
more of them.  K-BAR only made kitchen knives for a few years in the late
40's and early 50's, they are well known for their military equipment.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

I was thinking several $million for mental distress and public humiliation.


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Hendrik and Fay  wrote:

> Dunno perhaps demand a 50 dollar gift voucher to cover your time and
> stress.
>
> Hendrik
> who has lots of black oil, perhaps getting close to a dump run
>
>
> On 24/11/13 14:20, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> Of all the luck...  As Rodney Dangerfield said, if I didn't have bad luck
>> I'd have no luck at all.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Frederick Moir > >wrote:
>>
>>  Andrew.
>>> The crap that you poured into your engine is toxic crap!
>>> You are the victim of a big box "return the oil I just bought" scam. The
>>> buggers who do this buy oil, use it, and then replace it with the old oil
>>> and return it, with receipt, to the place that they bought it from.
>>> Several
>>> news articles on this.
>>> Sears should know better.
>>> New oil is supposed to have a foil seal glued to the opening of the
>>> container with a breakable plastic ring seal over that.
>>>
>>> Fred Moir
>>> Lynn MA
>>> Diesel preferred.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Tar

They are building a special hill to be able to survive the coming tsunami.  
Right now they all have to gather on the roof of the middle school.

clay

On Nov 23, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

> Alex wrote:
>> Yes, in the country about 25 miles northwest of Portland.
>> 
> 
> Do you know Long Beach Washington?  My son was interested in a job
> there several years ago.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?


Dunno perhaps demand a 50 dollar gift voucher to cover your time and stress.

Hendrik
who has lots of black oil, perhaps getting close to a dump run

On 24/11/13 14:20, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Of all the luck...  As Rodney Dangerfield said, if I didn't have bad luck
I'd have no luck at all.


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Frederick Moir wrote:


Andrew.
The crap that you poured into your engine is toxic crap!
You are the victim of a big box "return the oil I just bought" scam. The
buggers who do this buy oil, use it, and then replace it with the old oil
and return it, with receipt, to the place that they bought it from. Several
news articles on this.
Sears should know better.
New oil is supposed to have a foil seal glued to the opening of the
container with a breakable plastic ring seal over that.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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Re: [MBZ] 300TD SLS gaiters


Pretty sure the 41 Crocker did not have gaiters.
Perhaps a bit of electrical or duct tape will do fo a while?

Hendrik
who uses duct tape for everything

On 24/11/13 14:01, Frederick Moir wrote:

Hendrik, Fay, et al.
Thanks for all of the suggestions. Real and imagined.
Gaiters seem to be a good idea, the ones that I need are probably for a 1941 
Crocker. (appropriately).
  
Fred Moir

Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.




From: Hendrik and Fay 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD SLS gaiters


Perhaps if you want to keep it Merc like
http://www.ebay.com/itm/220-460-10-00-Steering-Rack-Boot-Kit-MERCEDES-CL500-CL55-AMG-CL600-CL65-AMG-/400570279279?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d43d9656f&vxp=mtr
Another possible might be motorcycle gaiters
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Rubber-Fork-Gaiters-200mm-x-48mm-x-56mm-/321069729897?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item4ac13f4869&_uhb=1

Hendrik
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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

Of all the luck...  As Rodney Dangerfield said, if I didn't have bad luck
I'd have no luck at all.


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Frederick Moir wrote:

> Andrew.
> The crap that you poured into your engine is toxic crap!
> You are the victim of a big box "return the oil I just bought" scam. The
> buggers who do this buy oil, use it, and then replace it with the old oil
> and return it, with receipt, to the place that they bought it from. Several
> news articles on this.
> Sears should know better.
> New oil is supposed to have a foil seal glued to the opening of the
> container with a breakable plastic ring seal over that.
>
> Fred Moir
> Lynn MA
> Diesel preferred.
>
>
> >
> > From: Andrew Strasfogel 
> >To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 8:54 PM
> >Subject: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?
> >
> >
> >I changed the oil today in the 1983 300TD, 334,000 miles.  I opened the
> jug
> >of Rotella and to my shock it was jet BLACK and syrupy in consistency.  As
> >I poured, there appeared to be heterogeneous chunks in the mix.  WTF?  I
> >called Sears and they guy said this was normal for a heavy duty diesel
> >oil.  Is this true, or did I trade my old oil for used oil?
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Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

2013-11-23 Thread Peter Frederick

Kitchen Aids rock!  We have two, the one my Aunt got for us in about  
1965 and the one she had of the same vintage, right after they started  
selling home kitchen stuff.  Both still run, although they both need  
some work (new gear set on the tilting one from my aunt and a new  
switch for the other one).


Probably the oldest ones around here according to the repair service  
when we had a gear set put in 30 years or so ago.


I'm not sure how I would manage without them.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 300TD SLS gaiters

Hendrik, Fay, et al.
Thanks for all of the suggestions. Real and imagined.
Gaiters seem to be a good idea, the ones that I need are probably for a 1941 
Crocker. (appropriately).
 
Fred Moir 
Lynn MA 
Diesel preferred.


>
> From: Hendrik and Fay 
>To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 9:02 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD SLS gaiters
> 
>
>Perhaps if you want to keep it Merc like 
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/220-460-10-00-Steering-Rack-Boot-Kit-MERCEDES-CL500-CL55-AMG-CL600-CL65-AMG-/400570279279?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d43d9656f&vxp=mtr
>Another possible might be motorcycle gaiters
>http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Rubber-Fork-Gaiters-200mm-x-48mm-x-56mm-/321069729897?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item4ac13f4869&_uhb=1
>
>Hendrik
>who has gaiters
>
>
>On 24/11/13 01:01, Rich Thomas wrote:
>> Yeah I was thinking that too.  You could get some in shocking pink, 
>> then maybe some LED lights to go under to make them look really special.
>>
>> --R
>>
>>
>> On 11/23/13 8:20 AM, Mitchell Haley, EA wrote:
 I don't recall these being service parts, but I do recall a time when
 Rusty had sold the kits for the front shocks with the bumper and 
 bellows.
 I wonder if they would work on the rear?

>>> Since even Gary failed this one, I'd measure the strut body diameter and
>>> the rod diameter, get an idea of the length I want, visit FLAPS when
>>> they're slow and have time to search the shelves (maybe a rack boot 
>>> would
>>> fit) or find an off road shop or check the Summit catalog.
>>>
>>> So far, this is all I found at Summit, could probably do better at 
>>> FLAPS:
>>> http://www.summitracing.com/search?keyword=steering%20rack%20boot
>>>
>>> Back in the late 1980s, I used to work down the street from Michigan Off
>>> Road Center. I bet I could have bought boots for just about anything
>>> there. Unfortunately, it looks like "the economy" killed that store in
>>> 2009.
>>> http://www.michiganoffroad.net/aboutus.html
>>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

2013-11-23 Thread Peter Frederick

I've not tried the Asian knives other than a very cheap Santoku set  
for fun and a cheap Korean carbon steel knife to see if I like that  
style.  I'm  not impressed enough to do more than sharpen my Chicago  
Cutlery stainless stuff.  It serves me well, although they all need  
another trip to the waterstones again, I didn't get them to the state  
I'd prefer the first time.


Knives are a pretty personal thing, you need to have the ones that fit  
how and what you do with them. Asian very hard thin knives must be  
handled very carefully or they chip badly, and sharpening them is  
definitely an art you must learn or they are pretty much mediocre.


If you or another member of your household tends to band knives  
around, stick with decent quality stainless European style knives, it  
will save you a ton of grief and they will work well enough.  If you  
can keep the knives out of other people's hands, you may prefer Asian  
style knives as they are generally shaper and cut better with less  
daily maintenance (using a knife steel).


 As I said, I'm perfectly happy with my standard Chicago Cutlery  
stuff, but it's all made in the USA, meaning it's 30 years old or so.   
New stuff is pretty much junk for the most part unless you spend a  
pile of cash.


My absolute favorite knife is a K-BAR small utility knife.  Looks like  
a miniature chef's knife.  Mother never used it because she could  
never get it sharp on an Arkansas stone.  Once I ran it over the  
waterstones, it cuts like crazy and has stayed sharp for six months  
now even though I use it to take chickens apart regularly.  Wonderful  
knife, I need to keep looking for more of them.  K-BAR only made  
kitchen knives for a few years in the late 40's and early 50's, they  
are well known for their military equipment.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

Andrew.
The crap that you poured into your engine is toxic crap!
You are the victim of a big box "return the oil I just bought" scam. The 
buggers who do this buy oil, use it, and then replace it with the old oil and 
return it, with receipt, to the place that they bought it from. Several news 
articles on this.
Sears should know better.
New oil is supposed to have a foil seal glued to the opening of the container 
with a breakable plastic ring seal over that.

Fred Moir 
Lynn MA 
Diesel preferred.


>
> From: Andrew Strasfogel 
>To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 8:54 PM
>Subject: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?
> 
>
>I changed the oil today in the 1983 300TD, 334,000 miles.  I opened the jug
>of Rotella and to my shock it was jet BLACK and syrupy in consistency.  As
>I poured, there appeared to be heterogeneous chunks in the mix.  WTF?  I
>called Sears and they guy said this was normal for a heavy duty diesel
>oil.  Is this true, or did I trade my old oil for used oil?
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Re: [MBZ] Tar

2013-11-23 Thread Mountain Man

Alex wrote:
> Yes, in the country about 25 miles northwest of Portland.
>

Do you know Long Beach Washington?  My son was interested in a job
there several years ago.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Tar

Yes.

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Gerry Archer" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tar

I've had no problems with either Kumho or Yokohama tires.  The ones I had
tended to be noisy and didn't handle like X-1 Michelins, but for around 
$75

shipping prepaid it's not surprising.

"Kumho Tire Co., Inc. LSE: KHTC, formerly known as Samyang Tire, is a 
South

Korean tire company. Headquartered in Gwangju, South Korea, it is a
subsidiary of the Kumho Asiana Group, along with Asiana Airlines, South
Korea's second largest airline."

Was Asiana airlines the one that crashed in Frisco?

Gerry

From: "Rich Thomas" 

I just saw where they are building a plant in the US, SC was trying to get
it but I think it went somewhere else, Alabama maybe?
--R

On 11/23/13 12:51 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

kumho have a certain following . i don't know where they are from.  i'd
guess korea, like all good things of recent past, but it sounds kinda
finnish as well

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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

Yes.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Strasfogel" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

When I drain/refill do I have to change the filter too?  I idled it for 5
minutes max and drove it from the alley back to the front of the house.

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:34 PM, David Bruckmann <
bruckma...@transcontinental.ca> wrote:

Sounds like used oil to me.

If in doubt you could always send the remaining drops from the jug to
Larry and have it analysed.

Or go buy another jug from a different store. If it's not the same, that
kinda clears it up.

On Nov 23, 2013, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> Yes, it was sealed. Sears said this was because of the additives.

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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

New oil that I've used for MANY years has another aluminum foil seal stuck 
firmly to the top of the jug under the cap with the frangible collar.

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Strasfogel" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

The seals were the perforated plastic collars that twist open.

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Larry T  wrote:

The guy at Sears knows absolutely nothing about Oils!   the only oil that
comes out Black is used Diesel Oil.   Sealed or not you got ripped off.
See if Shell has a local distributor/sales office where you are -- call
them and ask them what is sears selling in THEIR bottles/Jugs?

Also ask SHELL if they sell ANY oils that starts life that is black and
has chunks in it?

I have operated a Oil analysis business for 15+ years  - and I have never
heard of anyone trying to pass oil that looks like you describe it as new
oil!  I suspect SHELL will be very interested.You might tell them you
want replacement jugs of the junk you bought from Sears...

It would be helpful if you have the seal/s that was on the bottle -- save
them if you haven't tossed them...

LarryT
78 240D
91 300D-

Larry
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http://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/default.aspx?zo=5114156
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On 11/23/2013 9:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Yes, it was sealed. Sears said this was because of the additives.

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

 Was there a seal on the bottle?

I used to buy Rotella-T 15W-40 in 55 gallon barrels and transfer it to
gallon jugs.  It was always clear and honey-colored.

I hope you didn't put that in your engine.  I'm not buying what they 
told

you.

Dan

On Nov 23, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

 I changed the oil today in the 1983 300TD, 334,000 miles.  I opened 
the

jug

of Rotella and to my shock it was jet BLACK and syrupy in consistency.

  As

I poured, there appeared to be heterogeneous chunks in the mix.  WTF? 
I

called Sears and they guy said this was normal for a heavy duty diesel
oil.  Is this true, or did I trade my old oil for used oil?
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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

That's an inconvenient answer.


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:52 PM,  wrote:

> Yes.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 23, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
>
> > When I drain/refill do I have to change the filter too?  I idled it for 5
> > minutes max and drove it from the alley back to the front of the house.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:34 PM, David Bruckmann <
> > bruckma...@transcontinental.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> Sounds like used oil to me.
> >>
> >> If in doubt you could always send the remaining drops from the jug to
> >> Larry and have it analysed.
> >>
> >> Or go buy another jug from a different store. If it's not the same, that
> >> kinda clears it up.
> >>
> >> On Nov 23, 2013, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> >>> Yes, it was sealed. Sears said this was because of the additives.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Fat Tar

you missed nothing . there is a small population here to continue to think
it's free shit time on me like in the old days.  their numbers are
dwindling and if you don't encourage them, they really can't get far.
except for hendrik, who seems to committed to be an insanely angry shit
stirrer to the day he dies.  i've never met this guy, never done business
with him, never had a conversation with him, yet his hatred is passionate
and fanatical.

maybe he's the one you need to kick off?


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> Hmm I guess I must have missed something
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 23, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> >
> > Hendrik,
> >
> > No one appointed you list cop.  Whether it's Gary or anyone else, you
> have no right to be stirring up trouble.  Do as everyone else has, and let
> it go.  There is nothing to be gained by doing a "I told you so."  For that
> matter, it makes you no better.  Move on.  Everyone else has.
> >
> > And if you want to point fingers about trimming posts you'll be calling
> out the better part of the membership.
> >
> > I find it interesting that some of the members who have the least amount
> of interaction cause the bulk of consternation...
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 23, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
> >>
> >> This is the part where I say I told you so, I said that letting Gary
> back on the list would cause trouble.
> >> But no, you low life slanderers said that you need parts and Gary is
> now OK again.
> >> Well he is not, using every opportunity to attack people both who are
> on this list and those who are not and then has the audacity to make
> himself out to be a victim.
> >> Plus he does not use caps or trim posts, the lazy fat fu
> >>
> >> Hendrik
> >> who is going to apply a message filter because he is sick of self
> pitying plus size people
> >>
> >>> On 23/11/13 18:00, Gary Hurst wrote:
> >>> i've explained my position to you grant.  for four years, this group
> has
> >>> slandered me in every way without my having any ability to respond,
> acting
> >>> like most vicious lowlife thugs.  now i am here and those few of you
> who
> >>> wish to continue it will get a response.  you attacked me in public,
> i'll
> >>> respond in public.  you attack me in private, i'll respond in private.
>  the
> >>> free run of the animal elements here is over as i'm not going to roll
> over
> >>> for them.  you come looking for a fight with me, i'll give you one, so
> >>> don't do it if you don't like fighting
> >>>
> >>> i don't see what point you make in bringing this up over and over
> again.  i
> >>> have now answered you a second time  does this mean you will continue
> to
> >>> repeat yourself a third time?  to what ends?  it is asked and answered.
> >>>
> >>> there is no fight going with anyone, yet you persist in discussing
> this.
> >>> what are you trying to do other than instigate?  if my presence is so
> >>> painful to you, maybe you should just put me on ignore instead of
> insisting
> >>> on having this same tired discussion over and over?
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:24 AM, G Mann  wrote:
> 
>  Hey Gary...
>  Grow up, be a man, learn to walk away from a bully, learn the value of
>  silence as a response. You will be amazed at what it does for your
> well
>  being.
> 
>  I've had enough of "everybody is picking on me" and "I have to fight"
> ..
>  This ain't the place for that crap so knock it off.. now and forever.
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Re: [MBZ] Fat Tar

and "sexy".  you left out the part about me being "sexy"


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:56 PM,  wrote:

> I've actually always perceived Gary as being quite eloquent. Oh well.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 23, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Hendrik and Fay  wrote:
>
> > Well perhaps it's time to pull the pin, seems like every second post on
> this list is Gary Hurst feeling sorry for himself because everyone picks on
> him and apparently I am spreading lies about him and so on.
> > Everyone here seems to have the attitude, "we'll put up with that
> because we need someone to send us parts"
> > I am sick of the dribble from poor Gary, plus his posts are hard to read
> because he is too lazy or stupid to use big letters.
> > perhaps we'll all get fat fingered and lazy and not bother to use proper
> english and that's another wonderful step forward for society but that does
> not matter as long as you get your parts quick and cheap
> > yeah for years you have all been picking on me, calling me names like
> list cop and shit stirrer and i am sick of it, wasn't it Roger (RIP) who
> used to always remind me to take my medicine
> >
> > hendrik
> > who just does not care anymore
> >
> > On 24/11/13 11:37, Dan Penoff wrote:
> >> Hendrik,
> >>
> >> No one appointed you list cop.  Whether it's Gary or anyone else, you
> have no right to be stirring up trouble.  Do as everyone else has, and let
> it go.  There is nothing to be gained by doing a "I told you so."  For that
> matter, it makes you no better.  Move on.  Everyone else has.
> >>
> >> And if you want to point fingers about trimming posts you'll be calling
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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

'May owe you a new engine if you don't flush that crap out of you engine 
mucho pronto.

What might the chunks have plugged already?

Wilton

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Since it was sealed it is Shell's responsibility.  How should I approach
Sears?  What do they owe me?


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Greg Fiorentino 
wrote:


<< I called Sears and they guy said this was normal for a heavy duty 
diesel

oil.>>

Another nail in Sears' credibility's coffin.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

I changed the oil today in the 1983 300TD, 334,000 miles.  I opened the 
jug
of Rotella and to my shock it was jet BLACK and syrupy in consistency. 
As

I
poured, there appeared to be heterogeneous chunks in the mix.  WTF?  I
called Sears and they guy said this was normal for a heavy duty diesel 
oil.

Is this true, or did I trade my old oil for used oil?
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Re: [MBZ] Fat Tar

I've actually always perceived Gary as being quite eloquent. Oh well.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 23, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Hendrik and Fay  wrote:

> Well perhaps it's time to pull the pin, seems like every second post on this 
> list is Gary Hurst feeling sorry for himself because everyone picks on him 
> and apparently I am spreading lies about him and so on.
> Everyone here seems to have the attitude, "we'll put up with that because we 
> need someone to send us parts"
> I am sick of the dribble from poor Gary, plus his posts are hard to read 
> because he is too lazy or stupid to use big letters.
> perhaps we'll all get fat fingered and lazy and not bother to use proper 
> english and that's another wonderful step forward for society but that does 
> not matter as long as you get your parts quick and cheap
> yeah for years you have all been picking on me, calling me names like list 
> cop and shit stirrer and i am sick of it, wasn't it Roger (RIP) who used to 
> always remind me to take my medicine
> 
> hendrik
> who just does not care anymore
> 
> On 24/11/13 11:37, Dan Penoff wrote:
>> Hendrik,
>> 
>> No one appointed you list cop.  Whether it's Gary or anyone else, you have 
>> no right to be stirring up trouble.  Do as everyone else has, and let it go. 
>>  There is nothing to be gained by doing a "I told you so."  For that matter, 
>> it makes you no better.  Move on.  Everyone else has.
>> 
>> And if you want to point fingers about trimming posts you'll be calling out 
>> the better part of the membership.
>> 
>> I find it interesting that some of the members who have the least amount of 
>> interaction cause the bulk of consternation...
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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

Yes.

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On Nov 23, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:

> When I drain/refill do I have to change the filter too?  I idled it for 5
> minutes max and drove it from the alley back to the front of the house.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:34 PM, David Bruckmann <
> bruckma...@transcontinental.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Sounds like used oil to me.
>> 
>> If in doubt you could always send the remaining drops from the jug to
>> Larry and have it analysed.
>> 
>> Or go buy another jug from a different store. If it's not the same, that
>> kinda clears it up.
>> 
>> On Nov 23, 2013, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>> Yes, it was sealed. Sears said this was because of the additives.
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Re: [MBZ] iPad Air catches fire; fire department called.

2013-11-23 Thread Gerry Archer


Burning computers, burning cars.  Welcome to the battery age.
Gerry.who would like to buy an old Honda Insight to play with.

From: "OK Don" 

Reminds me of the cartoon I used to have on my office door - two boy
scouts
are standing by their fires. the first one says "I strated my fire with
two
sticks." The second one proudly says "I used a Dell."


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 12:28 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel
wrote:


On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Gerry Archer wrote:

> Apple fanbois around the world are on red alert after one of the latest
> fruity fondleslabs caught fire and exploded in an Australian Vodafone
shop.
>
> A demonstration model of the new iPad Air caused a fire so intense that
the
> fire brigade were called.
>

Well, Apple DID promise "an entirely new mobile computing experience".

Shoulda just thrown a couple shrimp on it.  ;)

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Long shot missed

2013-11-23 Thread Gerry Archer


FWIW:
If I were in Craigs position I would vounteer as a physics, chemistry, or
science teachers aid at a local high school; without pay if necessary.  Then
I would be sure and include that prominently on my CV in further
applications; and if the schools Craig has already applied to again need a
physicist, I would send in an updated application with the current work at
the high school prominently displayed and the application titled: "UPDATED
APPLICATION".
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume that Craig has had no recent
experience teaching high school students physics, and that
applicants who have are the ones who got the jobs for which Craig applied.
At a small college Craig would very likely be teaching students who are less
than one year out of high school, so the teachers aid experience could be
very valuable to him after he finds such a job.

Gerry


'Sounds like a goodun.  ;<)  'Hope all goes well, and perseverance wins
again.
Wilton


On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 21:42:29 -0700 Craig  wrote:


I haven't been sitting on my heels, though. I still have not heard back
from
Berry College in Rome, Georgia,
Lynntech, Inc., in College Station, Texas,
Western Carolina University in Cullowhee, North Carolina, or,
John Brown University in Siloam Springs, Arkansas
   (they now have a physics position open)


And I forgot to mention,

Kimball Physics in Wilton, New Hampshire.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Tar

2013-11-23 Thread Gerry Archer


I've had no problems with either Kumho or Yokohama tires.  The ones I had
tended to be noisy and didn't handle like X-1 Michelins, but for around $75
shipping prepaid it's not surprising.

"Kumho Tire Co., Inc. LSE: KHTC, formerly known as Samyang Tire, is a South
Korean tire company. Headquartered in Gwangju, South Korea, it is a
subsidiary of the Kumho Asiana Group, along with Asiana Airlines, South
Korea's second largest airline."

Was Asiana airlines the one that crashed in Frisco?

Gerry

From: "Rich Thomas" 

I just saw where they are building a plant in the US, SC was trying to get
it but I think it went somewhere else, Alabama maybe?
--R

On 11/23/13 12:51 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

kumho have a certain following . i don't know where they are from.  i'd
guess korea, like all good things of recent past, but it sounds kinda
finnish as well



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Re: [MBZ] Tar

So sorry Greg.  Lived there for half a decade.  I still have PTSD

clay

On Nov 23, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Greg Fiorentino wrote:

> I'm in the 'couve (Vancouver).  What's happening in your location?
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex
> Chamberlain
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 9:40 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tar
> 
> On Nov 22, 2013 8:33 PM, "Craig"  wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 20:25:34 -0800 Alex Chamberlain 
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Whoops, that was the Android Gmail client's auto-correct feature 
>>> running amuck.  Should have been "PNW" as in Pacific Northwest.
>> 
>> Ah, I see. [How in the world did it correct PNW to ONE?]
>> 
> 
> It (at least on my phone running an elderly version of Android) is just
> looking at adjacent keys on the onscreen QWERTY keyboard that might spell a
> more plausible word than the one you have just mistakenly typed with your
> imperfect human thumbs.
> 
>> So are you in the PNW, Alex?
>> 
> 
> Yes, in the country about 25 miles northwest of Portland.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

When I drain/refill do I have to change the filter too?  I idled it for 5
minutes max and drove it from the alley back to the front of the house.


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:34 PM, David Bruckmann <
bruckma...@transcontinental.ca> wrote:

> Sounds like used oil to me.
>
> If in doubt you could always send the remaining drops from the jug to
> Larry and have it analysed.
>
> Or go buy another jug from a different store. If it's not the same, that
> kinda clears it up.
>
> On Nov 23, 2013, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> > Yes, it was sealed. Sears said this was because of the additives.
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[MBZ] OM617.95 into a W115

Gang

A few years ago there was someone on this list who managed to stuff a turbo 617 
into a W115-body car. It would have required changing the oil filter 
arrangement etc. 

Does anyone remember who did that, or have links to someone else who did the 
same?

D. 
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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

Sounds like used oil to me. 

If in doubt you could always send the remaining drops from the jug to Larry and 
have it analysed. 

Or go buy another jug from a different store. If it's not the same, that kinda 
clears it up. 

On Nov 23, 2013, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> Yes, it was sealed. Sears said this was because of the additives.

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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

The seals were the perforated plastic collars that twist open.


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Larry T  wrote:

> The guy at Sears knows absolutely nothing about Oils!   the only oil that
> comes out Black is used Diesel Oil.   Sealed or not you got ripped off.
> See if Shell has a local distributor/sales office where you are -- call
> them and ask them what is sears selling in THEIR bottles/Jugs?
>
> Also ask SHELL if they sell ANY oils that starts life that is black and
> has chunks in it?
>
> I have operated a Oil analysis business for 15+ years  - and I have never
> heard of anyone trying to pass oil that looks like you describe it as new
> oil!  I suspect SHELL will be very interested.You might tell them you
> want replacement jugs of the junk you bought from Sears...
>
> It would be helpful if you have the seal/s that was on the bottle -- save
> them if you haven't tossed them...
>
> LarryT
> 78 240D
> 91 300D-
>
> Larry
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>
> On 11/23/2013 9:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> Yes, it was sealed. Sears said this was because of the additives.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>>
>>  Was there a seal on the bottle?
>>>
>>> I used to buy Rotella-T 15W-40 in 55 gallon barrels and transfer it to
>>> gallon jugs.  It was always clear and honey-colored.
>>>
>>> I hope you didn't put that in your engine.  I'm not buying what they told
>>> you.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 23, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>>
>>>  I changed the oil today in the 1983 300TD, 334,000 miles.  I opened the

>>> jug
>>>
 of Rotella and to my shock it was jet BLACK and syrupy in consistency.

>>>   As
>>>
 I poured, there appeared to be heterogeneous chunks in the mix.  WTF?  I
 called Sears and they guy said this was normal for a heavy duty diesel
 oil.  Is this true, or did I trade my old oil for used oil?
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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

2013-11-23 Thread Larry T

The guy at Sears knows absolutely nothing about Oils!   the only oil 
that comes out Black is used Diesel Oil.   Sealed or not you got ripped 
off.   See if Shell has a local distributor/sales office where you are 
-- call them and ask them what is sears selling in THEIR bottles/Jugs?


Also ask SHELL if they sell ANY oils that starts life that is black and 
has chunks in it?


I have operated a Oil analysis business for 15+ years  - and I have 
never heard of anyone trying to pass oil that looks like you describe it 
as new oil!  I suspect SHELL will be very interested.You might tell 
them you want replacement jugs of the junk you bought from Sears...


It would be helpful if you have the seal/s that was on the bottle -- 
save them if you haven't tossed them...


LarryT
78 240D
91 300D-

Larry
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On 11/23/2013 9:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Yes, it was sealed. Sears said this was because of the additives.


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:


Was there a seal on the bottle?

I used to buy Rotella-T 15W-40 in 55 gallon barrels and transfer it to
gallon jugs.  It was always clear and honey-colored.

I hope you didn't put that in your engine.  I'm not buying what they told
you.

Dan


On Nov 23, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:


I changed the oil today in the 1983 300TD, 334,000 miles.  I opened the

jug

of Rotella and to my shock it was jet BLACK and syrupy in consistency.

  As

I poured, there appeared to be heterogeneous chunks in the mix.  WTF?  I
called Sears and they guy said this was normal for a heavy duty diesel
oil.  Is this true, or did I trade my old oil for used oil?
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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

Since it was sealed it is Shell's responsibility.  How should I approach
Sears?  What do they owe me?


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote:

> << I called Sears and they guy said this was normal for a heavy duty diesel
> oil.>>
>
> Another nail in Sears' credibility's coffin.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Strasfogel
> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 5:54 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?
>
> I changed the oil today in the 1983 300TD, 334,000 miles.  I opened the jug
> of Rotella and to my shock it was jet BLACK and syrupy in consistency.  As
> I
> poured, there appeared to be heterogeneous chunks in the mix.  WTF?  I
> called Sears and they guy said this was normal for a heavy duty diesel oil.
> Is this true, or did I trade my old oil for used oil?
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Re: [MBZ] 1984 380SL

I do not know specifically.  Somebody has been paying attention to the crap I 
post about my 220D and thinks I need the cars.  Said he was out midwest

clay

On Nov 22, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

> clay wrote:
>> I have a lead on a nice 220D stick with a parts vergasser, also stick.  Mid 
>> america location
>> 
> 
> Where is mid america?
> KC?
> Shall I drive it home for you?
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

<< I called Sears and they guy said this was normal for a heavy duty diesel
oil.>>

Another nail in Sears' credibility's coffin.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

I changed the oil today in the 1983 300TD, 334,000 miles.  I opened the jug
of Rotella and to my shock it was jet BLACK and syrupy in consistency.  As I
poured, there appeared to be heterogeneous chunks in the mix.  WTF?  I
called Sears and they guy said this was normal for a heavy duty diesel oil.
Is this true, or did I trade my old oil for used oil?
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Re: [MBZ] Car Hunting - W129

Not sure. I'm busy with my garage build'

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> Slick!  Thanks, Dimitri.
> 
> Hey BTW, when are you visiting us again?
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks!  That helps.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 23, 2013, at 4:46 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Searchtempest.com allows you to search CL.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

Um, that's not normal!! Get that shit out of your engine pronto!

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On Nov 23, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:

> Rotella T.  I think I am going to visit them tomorrow.  I ran the engine
> for a about 5 minutes.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, it was sealed. Sears said this was because of the additives.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>> 
>>> Was there a seal on the bottle?
>>> 
>>> I used to buy Rotella-T 15W-40 in 55 gallon barrels and transfer it to
>>> gallon jugs.  It was always clear and honey-colored.
>>> 
>>> I hope you didn't put that in your engine.  I'm not buying what they told
>>> you.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 23, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>> 
 I changed the oil today in the 1983 300TD, 334,000 miles.  I opened the
>>> jug
 of Rotella and to my shock it was jet BLACK and syrupy in consistency.
>>> As
 I poured, there appeared to be heterogeneous chunks in the mix.  WTF?  I
 called Sears and they guy said this was normal for a heavy duty diesel
 oil.  Is this true, or did I trade my old oil for used oil?
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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

You should go to Shell's web site and look at the MSDS.  It will have a 
description of the oil in its pristine state as shipped.  That might help.

I hav never seen black oil of any kind when it was new, especially Rotella.

On Nov 23, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

> Rotella T.  I think I am going to visit them tomorrow.  I ran the engine
> for a about 5 minutes.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, it was sealed. Sears said this was because of the additives.
>> 
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

Rotella T.  I think I am going to visit them tomorrow.  I ran the engine
for a about 5 minutes.


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

> Yes, it was sealed. Sears said this was because of the additives.
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>
>> Was there a seal on the bottle?
>>
>> I used to buy Rotella-T 15W-40 in 55 gallon barrels and transfer it to
>> gallon jugs.  It was always clear and honey-colored.
>>
>> I hope you didn't put that in your engine.  I'm not buying what they told
>> you.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>
>> > I changed the oil today in the 1983 300TD, 334,000 miles.  I opened the
>> jug
>> > of Rotella and to my shock it was jet BLACK and syrupy in consistency.
>>  As
>> > I poured, there appeared to be heterogeneous chunks in the mix.  WTF?  I
>> > called Sears and they guy said this was normal for a heavy duty diesel
>> > oil.  Is this true, or did I trade my old oil for used oil?
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Re: [MBZ] Testing Glow Plugs

2013-11-23 Thread Fmiser

> Larry wrote:
> 
> I was wondering - I'd like to test the GPs on my 240D - would it
> be acceptable to hook them 1 at a time to my battery charger?  I
> read the archives about testing GPs and the point was made that a
> GP might test good with a meter when cold -  but can fail when it
> heats up - if I use my Battery charger won't I cover that
> hot/cold problem?

Yes - but all you will be able to tell is if it glows.  I think
it's a lot easier to test it still in the engine.

I attached 12 AWG wire leads to an old automotive dash style
ammeter that reads -30 0 +30 Amps.

To use it, I pop the top off of the glow relay and unplug the
connector for the glow plugs. There is a contact for each glow plug
in this connector.  I clip one meter lead to the fused side of the
big, screw-in fuse and then touch each glowplug contact, one at a
time. The socket has pin numbers molded into it, and these numbers
correspond to the cylinder number.

This method tests the supply 12V, the wire, and the plug. When
cold, a good plug draws about 20A (Well, on my meter it point
to the mark for 20 amps. I have not calibrated or tested the
accuracy of that meter...) It will drop back to about 15A
after 8-10 seconds.

Once the one wire is connected to the fuse, DO NOT LET THE
OTHER WIRE TOUCH CHASSIS GROUND!!!  Or the big fuse will blow
and possibly so will your ammeter. :)

If the plug is bad, the current will usually be less.  If it is
shorted it will be much more.

If the wire or connectors are in poor shape, the current will
be less.

If the supply voltage is low, the current will be less.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

2013-11-23 Thread Fmiser

> Greg wrote:
> 
> How about cutlery?  How do the snobs (count me in that group!)
> opine on kitchen knives?

Wusthof-Trident.  I first used them in a commercial kitchen.
I got to see how they hold up to heavy use - and I used and
sharpened them.  I'm sure there are other quality knives available,
but I really despise using crummy knives. 

> Stand mixers?

Hobart.  Not the toy ones that show up in a department store.

> Food processors?

??  Er, Wusthof-Trident, I guess.

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Re: [MBZ] 300TD SLS gaiters

Perhaps if you want to keep it Merc like 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/220-460-10-00-Steering-Rack-Boot-Kit-MERCEDES-CL500-CL55-AMG-CL600-CL65-AMG-/400570279279?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d43d9656f&vxp=mtr

Another possible might be motorcycle gaiters
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Rubber-Fork-Gaiters-200mm-x-48mm-x-56mm-/321069729897?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item4ac13f4869&_uhb=1

Hendrik
who has gaiters

On 24/11/13 01:01, Rich Thomas wrote:
Yeah I was thinking that too.  You could get some in shocking pink, 
then maybe some LED lights to go under to make them look really special.


--R


On 11/23/13 8:20 AM, Mitchell Haley, EA wrote:

I don't recall these being service parts, but I do recall a time when
Rusty had sold the kits for the front shocks with the bumper and 
bellows.

I wonder if they would work on the rear?


Since even Gary failed this one, I'd measure the strut body diameter and
the rod diameter, get an idea of the length I want, visit FLAPS when
they're slow and have time to search the shelves (maybe a rack boot 
would

fit) or find an off road shop or check the Summit catalog.

So far, this is all I found at Summit, could probably do better at 
FLAPS:

http://www.summitracing.com/search?keyword=steering%20rack%20boot

Back in the late 1980s, I used to work down the street from Michigan Off
Road Center. I bet I could have bought boots for just about anything
there. Unfortunately, it looks like "the economy" killed that store in
2009.
http://www.michiganoffroad.net/aboutus.html





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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

Yes, it was sealed. Sears said this was because of the additives.


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Was there a seal on the bottle?
>
> I used to buy Rotella-T 15W-40 in 55 gallon barrels and transfer it to
> gallon jugs.  It was always clear and honey-colored.
>
> I hope you didn't put that in your engine.  I'm not buying what they told
> you.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Nov 23, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
> > I changed the oil today in the 1983 300TD, 334,000 miles.  I opened the
> jug
> > of Rotella and to my shock it was jet BLACK and syrupy in consistency.
>  As
> > I poured, there appeared to be heterogeneous chunks in the mix.  WTF?  I
> > called Sears and they guy said this was normal for a heavy duty diesel
> > oil.  Is this true, or did I trade my old oil for used oil?
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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

Was there a seal on the bottle?

I used to buy Rotella-T 15W-40 in 55 gallon barrels and transfer it to gallon 
jugs.  It was always clear and honey-colored.

I hope you didn't put that in your engine.  I'm not buying what they told you.

Dan


On Nov 23, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

> I changed the oil today in the 1983 300TD, 334,000 miles.  I opened the jug
> of Rotella and to my shock it was jet BLACK and syrupy in consistency.  As
> I poured, there appeared to be heterogeneous chunks in the mix.  WTF?  I
> called Sears and they guy said this was normal for a heavy duty diesel
> oil.  Is this true, or did I trade my old oil for used oil?
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[MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

I changed the oil today in the 1983 300TD, 334,000 miles.  I opened the jug
of Rotella and to my shock it was jet BLACK and syrupy in consistency.  As
I poured, there appeared to be heterogeneous chunks in the mix.  WTF?  I
called Sears and they guy said this was normal for a heavy duty diesel
oil.  Is this true, or did I trade my old oil for used oil?
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[MBZ] Fw: 5 speed Mercedes tranny and diesel turbo - $200 (Maybrook)

Not, etc.
 
Fred Moir 
Lynn MA 
Diesel preferred.

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> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fat Tar

Nothing to see here, just move along...like almost everyone else is...

(Notice that I trimmed my posts?)


On Nov 23, 2013, at 8:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> Hmm I guess I must have missed something
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Fat Tar

2013-11-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Hmm I guess I must have missed something

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 23, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> Hendrik,
> 
> No one appointed you list cop.  Whether it's Gary or anyone else, you have no 
> right to be stirring up trouble.  Do as everyone else has, and let it go.  
> There is nothing to be gained by doing a "I told you so."  For that matter, 
> it makes you no better.  Move on.  Everyone else has.
> 
> And if you want to point fingers about trimming posts you'll be calling out 
> the better part of the membership.
> 
> I find it interesting that some of the members who have the least amount of 
> interaction cause the bulk of consternation...
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
>> 
>> This is the part where I say I told you so, I said that letting Gary back on 
>> the list would cause trouble.
>> But no, you low life slanderers said that you need parts and Gary is now OK 
>> again.
>> Well he is not, using every opportunity to attack people both who are on 
>> this list and those who are not and then has the audacity to make himself 
>> out to be a victim.
>> Plus he does not use caps or trim posts, the lazy fat fu
>> 
>> Hendrik
>> who is going to apply a message filter because he is sick of self pitying 
>> plus size people
>> 
>>> On 23/11/13 18:00, Gary Hurst wrote:
>>> i've explained my position to you grant.  for four years, this group has
>>> slandered me in every way without my having any ability to respond, acting
>>> like most vicious lowlife thugs.  now i am here and those few of you who
>>> wish to continue it will get a response.  you attacked me in public, i'll
>>> respond in public.  you attack me in private, i'll respond in private.  the
>>> free run of the animal elements here is over as i'm not going to roll over
>>> for them.  you come looking for a fight with me, i'll give you one, so
>>> don't do it if you don't like fighting
>>> 
>>> i don't see what point you make in bringing this up over and over again.  i
>>> have now answered you a second time  does this mean you will continue to
>>> repeat yourself a third time?  to what ends?  it is asked and answered.
>>> 
>>> there is no fight going with anyone, yet you persist in discussing this.
>>> what are you trying to do other than instigate?  if my presence is so
>>> painful to you, maybe you should just put me on ignore instead of insisting
>>> on having this same tired discussion over and over?
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:24 AM, G Mann  wrote:
 
 Hey Gary...
 Grow up, be a man, learn to walk away from a bully, learn the value of
 silence as a response. You will be amazed at what it does for your well
 being.
 
 I've had enough of "everybody is picking on me" and "I have to fight" ..
 This ain't the place for that crap so knock it off.. now and forever.
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Re: [MBZ] Fat Tar

Well perhaps it's time to pull the pin, seems like every second post on 
this list is Gary Hurst feeling sorry for himself because everyone picks 
on him and apparently I am spreading lies about him and so on.
Everyone here seems to have the attitude, "we'll put up with that 
because we need someone to send us parts"
I am sick of the dribble from poor Gary, plus his posts are hard to read 
because he is too lazy or stupid to use big letters.
perhaps we'll all get fat fingered and lazy and not bother to use proper 
english and that's another wonderful step forward for society but that 
does not matter as long as you get your parts quick and cheap
yeah for years you have all been picking on me, calling me names like 
list cop and shit stirrer and i am sick of it, wasn't it Roger (RIP) who 
used to always remind me to take my medicine


hendrik
who just does not care anymore

On 24/11/13 11:37, Dan Penoff wrote:

Hendrik,

No one appointed you list cop.  Whether it's Gary or anyone else, you have no right to be 
stirring up trouble.  Do as everyone else has, and let it go.  There is nothing to be 
gained by doing a "I told you so."  For that matter, it makes you no better.  
Move on.  Everyone else has.

And if you want to point fingers about trimming posts you'll be calling out the 
better part of the membership.

I find it interesting that some of the members who have the least amount of 
interaction cause the bulk of consternation...




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Re: [MBZ] Testing Glow Plugs

2013-11-23 Thread Larry T


Thanks Craig!   Sounds good.   I really appreciate your help -

Larry
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On 11/23/2013 3:01 PM, Craig wrote:

On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 12:16:48 -0500 Larry T  wrote:


I was wondering - I'd like to test the GPs on my 240D - would it be
acceptable to hook them 1 at a time to my battery charger?  I read the
archives about testing GPs and the point was made that a GP might test
good with a meter when cold -  but can fail when it heats up - if I use
my Battery charger won't I cover that hot/cold problem?

Your battery charger won't put out enough current to operate the glow
plug.

- Remove the glow plug (of course)
- Clamp the hex with a pair of vise-grips
- Touch the glow plug's center terminal to one battery terminal
- Touch the handle end of the vise-grips to the other battery terminal,
  if it's not long enough, extend with a wrench or something conductive
- Watch for the orange glow from the glow plug

CAUTION: The glow plug will be REALLY hot!

To test another, release the vise-grips to drop the tested glow plug onto
your concrete garage floor or something equally non-damagable.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fat Tar

Hendrik,

No one appointed you list cop.  Whether it's Gary or anyone else, you have no 
right to be stirring up trouble.  Do as everyone else has, and let it go.  
There is nothing to be gained by doing a "I told you so."  For that matter, it 
makes you no better.  Move on.  Everyone else has.

And if you want to point fingers about trimming posts you'll be calling out the 
better part of the membership.

I find it interesting that some of the members who have the least amount of 
interaction cause the bulk of consternation...



On Nov 23, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:

> This is the part where I say I told you so, I said that letting Gary back on 
> the list would cause trouble.
> But no, you low life slanderers said that you need parts and Gary is now OK 
> again.
> Well he is not, using every opportunity to attack people both who are on this 
> list and those who are not and then has the audacity to make himself out to 
> be a victim.
> Plus he does not use caps or trim posts, the lazy fat fu
> 
> Hendrik
> who is going to apply a message filter because he is sick of self pitying 
> plus size people
> 
> On 23/11/13 18:00, Gary Hurst wrote:
>> i've explained my position to you grant.  for four years, this group has
>> slandered me in every way without my having any ability to respond, acting
>> like most vicious lowlife thugs.  now i am here and those few of you who
>> wish to continue it will get a response.  you attacked me in public, i'll
>> respond in public.  you attack me in private, i'll respond in private.  the
>> free run of the animal elements here is over as i'm not going to roll over
>> for them.  you come looking for a fight with me, i'll give you one, so
>> don't do it if you don't like fighting
>> 
>> i don't see what point you make in bringing this up over and over again.  i
>> have now answered you a second time  does this mean you will continue to
>> repeat yourself a third time?  to what ends?  it is asked and answered.
>> 
>> there is no fight going with anyone, yet you persist in discussing this.
>> what are you trying to do other than instigate?  if my presence is so
>> painful to you, maybe you should just put me on ignore instead of insisting
>> on having this same tired discussion over and over?
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:24 AM, G Mann  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Gary...
>>> Grow up, be a man, learn to walk away from a bully, learn the value of
>>> silence as a response. You will be amazed at what it does for your well
>>> being.
>>> 
>>> I've had enough of "everybody is picking on me" and "I have to fight" ..
>>> This ain't the place for that crap so knock it off.. now and forever.
>>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Car Hunting - W129

On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 15:13:17 -0800 Alex Chamberlain
 wrote:

> Ask Craig how much fun it was to R&R the PS pump in his E420.

NOT!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] I can't think of a purpler way to start the day….

Oooh dear, well I guess I have to confess that we do have some real 
nutters over here who missed out on any sense of style.


Hendrik
who is not the owner of the 109

On 24/11/13 04:32, M. Mitchell Marmel wrote:

Could be worse.  It could look like this:

http://www.madwhips.com/truly-horrible-300sel/

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Re: [MBZ] Fat Tar

This is the part where I say I told you so, I said that letting Gary 
back on the list would cause trouble.
But no, you low life slanderers said that you need parts and Gary is now 
OK again.
Well he is not, using every opportunity to attack people both who are on 
this list and those who are not and then has the audacity to make 
himself out to be a victim.

Plus he does not use caps or trim posts, the lazy fat fu

Hendrik
who is going to apply a message filter because he is sick of self 
pitying plus size people


On 23/11/13 18:00, Gary Hurst wrote:

i've explained my position to you grant.  for four years, this group has
slandered me in every way without my having any ability to respond, acting
like most vicious lowlife thugs.  now i am here and those few of you who
wish to continue it will get a response.  you attacked me in public, i'll
respond in public.  you attack me in private, i'll respond in private.  the
free run of the animal elements here is over as i'm not going to roll over
for them.  you come looking for a fight with me, i'll give you one, so
don't do it if you don't like fighting

i don't see what point you make in bringing this up over and over again.  i
have now answered you a second time  does this mean you will continue to
repeat yourself a third time?  to what ends?  it is asked and answered.

there is no fight going with anyone, yet you persist in discussing this.
what are you trying to do other than instigate?  if my presence is so
painful to you, maybe you should just put me on ignore instead of insisting
on having this same tired discussion over and over?


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:24 AM, G Mann  wrote:


Hey Gary...
Grow up, be a man, learn to walk away from a bully, learn the value of
silence as a response. You will be amazed at what it does for your well
being.

I've had enough of "everybody is picking on me" and "I have to fight" ..
This ain't the place for that crap so knock it off.. now and forever.




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Re: [MBZ] Car Hunting - W129

I'm sure he would, since someone without the understanding of how the system 
works or how to repair it would be at a real loss.  As these cars age the top 
cylinders are starting to leak, so nearly all of them today will be seeping or 
have started to leak.  It takes about 4-6 hours to R&R all 12 of them, and 
there is a rebuilder out west that does the complete set for under $600 with 
better than OE seals and o-rings.

There is one microswitch in the whole system.  The rest is done through 
magnetic (reed) switches and basic hydraulic operation.  It's actually very 
simple once you sit down and read through the sequence of operation.  
Definitely within the abilities of just about anyone here, for sure.

Dan

On Nov 23, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

> I had a convertible repair shop owner tell me the tops were bad. He loved
> them.

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Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

We have a hodgepodge of kitchen knives: a few cheap ceramics, an old Fiskars
set, some old Chicago Cutlery (USA) including a Chef's knife, a boning knife
and a set of steak knives.  More recently I acquired a few Shun laminated
VG10 knives, including a slicer, a chef's and a paring knife.  These are by
far the best and certainly the most beautiful.  My wife always reaches for
these first.  But all of these knives work ok if they are kept reasonably
sharp.  The Shuns and the ceramics have not yet required any sharpening!

Like OK Don we also have a KitchenAid stand mixer.  We had a discount-store
version (Hobart) since forever, but I recently lucked into a commercial
model on Craig's for cheap.  I almost passed on it because it had a label
"no attachments", but obviously did have the PTO.  I came to realize that
the attachments were not certified for commercial use, thus the label.  The
Hobart was passed along to a son.

Also forever, we have a Cuisinart food processor.  When we lived in NY we
acquired all the blades at steep discount from our frequent trips to
Zabar's.  I wanted to replace it when it stopped working a few years back,
but found that this unit (or any one of equal quality) are NLA.  It was
manufactured by Robot-Coupe of France.  I disassembled it and cleaned and
repaired the switches.  It should be good for another 25 years

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Fiorentino
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 3:36 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

Yes, there are some cooking tasks for which cast iron is best.  But, as a
good friend of mine likes to say, "horses for courses".  Enameled cast iron
couples the heat-retaining and spreading features of cast-iron with a
non-reactive interior.  We have a Le Creuset frypan, a Staub sauté pan and a
Lodge French Oven that all perform excellent service.  Even the new T-fal
pans do a great job for fried or scrambled eggs with just a quick spray
instead of oil or butter.

How about cutlery?  How do the snobs (count me in that group!) opine on
kitchen knives?  Stand mixers?  Food processors?

Inquiring minds

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:58 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

As a devoted cast iron snob, I cook on nothing else.  Over the years, I
established a rule that when I find very old and very good cast iron..
regardless of condition, I buy it.  Good quality cast iron can be found with
a simple test.. Suspend the item by handle.. lightly rap the edge with a
spoon.. if it is chinese crap.. you will get a "thunk".. if it is 1880
top quality cast iron.. it will ring like a bell.. "Ding"   if
it rings.. buy it...

If it is rusted, I bead blast it with metal shot [auto shop style] back to
bare metal and season it from scratch to perfection.. I love how it cooks
and it always comes out "just right".

I do have some hard limit rules regarding how it is cleaned and dried, how
it is pre-heated and what heats and oils I use to cook with..

To date I have bought and restored over 40 pieces,,, all the way from one
egg frying pans to 12 gp Dutch Ovens [and several smaller of various sizes].

If your pan is seasoned correctly and handled correctly, food never sticks.
To preheat, put a small splash of water in the pan,, "rain drops".. heat pan
till water evaporates.. pan is now heated to 212 degrees F. What ever you
put in the pan to cook will make a "Phss" sound when it hits the pan
which braizes meat to seal in juices and flavors... As soon as the "rain
drops" evaporate add EVOO [or coconut oil, or oil of choice] give it a
moment to come to temp while you spread it with spatula and add item to be
cooked..

I will try to attach two pics of one of my seasoned to perfection pans, and
some corn bread pans [list mom please?]

Grant...

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> My cast iron cookware was passed to me from my great-grandmother, 
> grandmother, and mother, I presume some of it is well past 100 years 
> old as my ggm passed at like 98 back in the 80s, I think she got it 
> when she got married, no telling who it came from or if it was new 
> when she got it.  So far it has held up well.  My daughter hijacked a 
> few pieces of it, if she keeps the line going I guess it will serve 
> many more generations.  I have 2 cornbread "corn" tins too, they are 
> well
used and loved.
>
> I saw recently some dude has "reimagined" cast iron skillets, he has 
> them shaped sorta hexagonal so there are corners to pour from, and 
> heavy wire handles to pick up something cooler.  Some of mine have 
> little pouring lips, and a towel works fine for handling.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 11/16/13 3:31 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>
>>   was a calphalon user

Re: [MBZ] Car Hunting - W129

You failed to note that I have a W140 with the same engine. I know all too well 
the tight quarters.

The top hydraulics don't concern me. They are very basic and easily dealt with.

You want tight? Try replacing motor mounts on one of these. I've done it and 
have the wrench to do it.

The rest of the systems are simpler than the W140, which is a plus.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 23, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Alex Chamberlain  wrote:
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2013 1:01 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:
>> 
>> I would like to find him a W129 of
>> some sort.  Since these are pretty
>> much ubiquitous I figure I can find a
>> decent one for a reasonable amount.
>> How much?  I have a budget of
>> between $3k-$5k.
> 
> Conventional wisdom has it that R129s are cheap for a reason.  I love their
> looks and the fact that the running gear is basically a mix of the best of
> the 124 and 140.  I've always been scared off, though, by stories of $5K
> repair bills to fix the automatic top mechanism.  Also, the V-8s are
> crammed in there really tight, even more so than in the late 124s.  Ask
> Craig how much fun it was to R&R the PS pump in his E420.
> 
> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

2013-11-23 Thread OK Don

My wife now has several LeCreuset pieces, and loves them, though she did
prove recently that they are not as non-stick as the old (1970) cast iron
skillet is.
We have a KitchenAid stand mixer from around 1985 - the lift-up-the -bowl
type, says Pro on it that has been mixing bread dough weekly since then, as
well as everything else that needs significant mixing. It just keeps on
going. I did buy a new standard mixing blade for it, and an extra mixing
bowl for the holiday meals - hate to crimp her style when she gets going.

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote:

>
> How about cutlery?  How do the snobs (count me in that group!) opine on
> kitchen knives?  Stand mixers?  Food processors?
>
> Inquiring minds
>
> Greg
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

global knives.  but lots of others i like too


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote:

> Yes, there are some cooking tasks for which cast iron is best.  But, as a
> good friend of mine likes to say, "horses for courses".  Enameled cast iron
> couples the heat-retaining and spreading features of cast-iron with a
> non-reactive interior.  We have a Le Creuset frypan, a Staub sauté pan and
> a
> Lodge French Oven that all perform excellent service.  Even the new T-fal
> pans do a great job for fried or scrambled eggs with just a quick spray
> instead of oil or butter.
>
> How about cutlery?  How do the snobs (count me in that group!) opine on
> kitchen knives?  Stand mixers?  Food processors?
>
> Inquiring minds
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:58 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines
>
> As a devoted cast iron snob, I cook on nothing else.  Over the years, I
> established a rule that when I find very old and very good cast iron..
> regardless of condition, I buy it.  Good quality cast iron can be found
> with
> a simple test.. Suspend the item by handle.. lightly rap the edge with a
> spoon.. if it is chinese crap.. you will get a "thunk".. if it is 1880
> top quality cast iron.. it will ring like a bell.. "Ding"   if
> it rings.. buy it...
>
> If it is rusted, I bead blast it with metal shot [auto shop style] back to
> bare metal and season it from scratch to perfection.. I love how it cooks
> and it always comes out "just right".
>
> I do have some hard limit rules regarding how it is cleaned and dried, how
> it is pre-heated and what heats and oils I use to cook with..
>
> To date I have bought and restored over 40 pieces,,, all the way from one
> egg frying pans to 12 gp Dutch Ovens [and several smaller of various
> sizes].
>
> If your pan is seasoned correctly and handled correctly, food never sticks.
> To preheat, put a small splash of water in the pan,, "rain drops".. heat
> pan
> till water evaporates.. pan is now heated to 212 degrees F. What ever you
> put in the pan to cook will make a "Phss" sound when it hits the
> pan
> which braizes meat to seal in juices and flavors... As soon as the "rain
> drops" evaporate add EVOO [or coconut oil, or oil of choice] give it a
> moment to come to temp while you spread it with spatula and add item to be
> cooked..
>
> I will try to attach two pics of one of my seasoned to perfection pans, and
> some corn bread pans [list mom please?]
>
> Grant...
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Rich Thomas <
> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>
> > My cast iron cookware was passed to me from my great-grandmother,
> > grandmother, and mother, I presume some of it is well past 100 years
> > old as my ggm passed at like 98 back in the 80s, I think she got it
> > when she got married, no telling who it came from or if it was new
> > when she got it.  So far it has held up well.  My daughter hijacked a
> > few pieces of it, if she keeps the line going I guess it will serve
> > many more generations.  I have 2 cornbread "corn" tins too, they are well
> used and loved.
> >
> > I saw recently some dude has "reimagined" cast iron skillets, he has
> > them shaped sorta hexagonal so there are corners to pour from, and
> > heavy wire handles to pick up something cooler.  Some of mine have
> > little pouring lips, and a towel works fine for handling.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 11/16/13 3:31 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> >
> >>   was a calphalon user until the ex wife stole it all.  then i went
> >> to cast iron and like it best of all
> >>
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

Yes, there are some cooking tasks for which cast iron is best.  But, as a
good friend of mine likes to say, "horses for courses".  Enameled cast iron
couples the heat-retaining and spreading features of cast-iron with a
non-reactive interior.  We have a Le Creuset frypan, a Staub sauté pan and a
Lodge French Oven that all perform excellent service.  Even the new T-fal
pans do a great job for fried or scrambled eggs with just a quick spray
instead of oil or butter.

How about cutlery?  How do the snobs (count me in that group!) opine on
kitchen knives?  Stand mixers?  Food processors?

Inquiring minds

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:58 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

As a devoted cast iron snob, I cook on nothing else.  Over the years, I
established a rule that when I find very old and very good cast iron..
regardless of condition, I buy it.  Good quality cast iron can be found with
a simple test.. Suspend the item by handle.. lightly rap the edge with a
spoon.. if it is chinese crap.. you will get a "thunk".. if it is 1880
top quality cast iron.. it will ring like a bell.. "Ding"   if
it rings.. buy it...

If it is rusted, I bead blast it with metal shot [auto shop style] back to
bare metal and season it from scratch to perfection.. I love how it cooks
and it always comes out "just right".

I do have some hard limit rules regarding how it is cleaned and dried, how
it is pre-heated and what heats and oils I use to cook with..

To date I have bought and restored over 40 pieces,,, all the way from one
egg frying pans to 12 gp Dutch Ovens [and several smaller of various sizes].

If your pan is seasoned correctly and handled correctly, food never sticks.
To preheat, put a small splash of water in the pan,, "rain drops".. heat pan
till water evaporates.. pan is now heated to 212 degrees F. What ever you
put in the pan to cook will make a "Phss" sound when it hits the pan
which braizes meat to seal in juices and flavors... As soon as the "rain
drops" evaporate add EVOO [or coconut oil, or oil of choice] give it a
moment to come to temp while you spread it with spatula and add item to be
cooked..

I will try to attach two pics of one of my seasoned to perfection pans, and
some corn bread pans [list mom please?]

Grant...

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> My cast iron cookware was passed to me from my great-grandmother, 
> grandmother, and mother, I presume some of it is well past 100 years 
> old as my ggm passed at like 98 back in the 80s, I think she got it 
> when she got married, no telling who it came from or if it was new 
> when she got it.  So far it has held up well.  My daughter hijacked a 
> few pieces of it, if she keeps the line going I guess it will serve 
> many more generations.  I have 2 cornbread "corn" tins too, they are well
used and loved.
>
> I saw recently some dude has "reimagined" cast iron skillets, he has 
> them shaped sorta hexagonal so there are corners to pour from, and 
> heavy wire handles to pick up something cooler.  Some of mine have 
> little pouring lips, and a towel works fine for handling.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 11/16/13 3:31 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>
>>   was a calphalon user until the ex wife stole it all.  then i went 
>> to cast iron and like it best of all
>>
>
>
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[MBZ] 85 300 TD

A buddy of mine has one for sale in Boston area. Rusty bottom.  1150. I
have not seen the car but he said it runs  well. Email me off list for pix
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[MBZ] Fwd: Re: Car Hunting - W129

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From: "Dwight Giles" 
Date: Nov 23, 2013 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car Hunting - W129
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc:

I had a convertible repair shop owner tell me the tops were bad. He loved
them.
On Nov 23, 2013 6:13 PM, "Alex Chamberlain"  wrote:

> On Nov 23, 2013 1:01 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:
>
> > I would like to find him a W129 of
> > some sort.  Since these are pretty
> > much ubiquitous I figure I can find a
> > decent one for a reasonable amount.
> >  How much?  I have a budget of
> > between $3k-$5k.
>
> Conventional wisdom has it that R129s are cheap for a reason.  I love their
> looks and the fact that the running gear is basically a mix of the best of
> the 124 and 140.  I've always been scared off, though, by stories of $5K
> repair bills to fix the automatic top mechanism.  Also, the V-8s are
> crammed in there really tight, even more so than in the late 124s.  Ask
> Craig how much fun it was to R&R the PS pump in his E420.
>
> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] iPad Air catches fire; fire department called.

2013-11-23 Thread OK Don

Reminds me of the cartoon I used to have on my office door - two boy scouts
are standing by their fires. the first one says "I strated my fire with two
sticks." The second one proudly says "I used a Dell."


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 12:28 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Gerry Archer  >wrote:
>
> > Apple fanbois around the world are on red alert after one of the latest
> > fruity fondleslabs caught fire and exploded in an Australian Vodafone
> shop.
> >
> > A demonstration model of the new iPad Air caused a fire so intense that
> the
> > fire brigade were called.
> >
>
> Well, Apple DID promise "an entirely new mobile computing experience".
>
> Shoulda just thrown a couple shrimp on it.  ;)
>
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Re: [MBZ] Car Hunting - W129

I had a convertible repair shop owner tell me the tops were bad. He loved
them.
On Nov 23, 2013 6:13 PM, "Alex Chamberlain"  wrote:

> On Nov 23, 2013 1:01 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:
>
> > I would like to find him a W129 of
> > some sort.  Since these are pretty
> > much ubiquitous I figure I can find a
> > decent one for a reasonable amount.
> >  How much?  I have a budget of
> > between $3k-$5k.
>
> Conventional wisdom has it that R129s are cheap for a reason.  I love their
> looks and the fact that the running gear is basically a mix of the best of
> the 124 and 140.  I've always been scared off, though, by stories of $5K
> repair bills to fix the automatic top mechanism.  Also, the V-8s are
> crammed in there really tight, even more so than in the late 124s.  Ask
> Craig how much fun it was to R&R the PS pump in his E420.
>
> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Car Hunting - W129

On Nov 23, 2013 1:01 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> I would like to find him a W129 of
> some sort.  Since these are pretty
> much ubiquitous I figure I can find a
> decent one for a reasonable amount.
>  How much?  I have a budget of
> between $3k-$5k.

Conventional wisdom has it that R129s are cheap for a reason.  I love their
looks and the fact that the running gear is basically a mix of the best of
the 124 and 140.  I've always been scared off, though, by stories of $5K
repair bills to fix the automatic top mechanism.  Also, the V-8s are
crammed in there really tight, even more so than in the late 124s.  Ask
Craig how much fun it was to R&R the PS pump in his E420.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Car Hunting - W129

Slick!  Thanks, Dimitri.

Hey BTW, when are you visiting us again?


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Thanks!  That helps.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Nov 23, 2013, at 4:46 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Searchtempest.com allows you to search CL.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E Hesitation During Accelerating: Update

2013-11-23 Thread Mitch Haley

Robert Koziak wrote:

Hi,

I took some of the suggestions and checked all the rubber hoses around the fuel
distributor and throttle bodythey appeared fine. I am going to remove the
fuel distributor this weekend and try to clean it. If that doesn't work I was
thinking of buying a used fuel distributor and see if that makes a difference.
New Bosch ones are selling for $1,000 but used ones on EBAY are around $150.
It might be worth a try for that money.
.
Another suggestion was the Bosch fuel pumps. Would a bad fuel pump cause the symptoms I am experiencing? If I was to consider trying to replace those could someone provide me with he correct part number and a good supplier. Again on ebay they are selling new ones for around $115 eachthe 300E has two. I am seeing conflicting part numbers so it's confusing.

Generally, either the pump pumps or it doesn't.
I suppose it could be weak, and supply adequate pressure at idle but not under
acceleration, but it would require having a fuel pressure gauge you could read
from the cockpit to detect that.

Both the fuel distributor and the warm-up regulator are subject to making the
car act unhappy when they get varnished up inside from storage.

I was going to suggest a 20oz bottle of Marshall's favorite Techron, but if
you've already run a ton of Seafoam I doubt it would help much.

I think you need to find an indy with the skill to diagnose it, as throwing
parts at it by guesswork would be cost-prohibitive, unless you had an excellent
running parts car to swap from.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Car Hunting - W129

Thanks!  That helps.

Dan


On Nov 23, 2013, at 4:46 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Searchtempest.com allows you to search CL.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

'Hafta to try the ding test on the pans I cast in '54.

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "G Mann" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT--Cookware Snob Opines

As a devoted cast iron snob, I cook on nothing else.  Over the years, I
established a rule that when I find very old and very good cast iron..
regardless of condition, I buy it.  Good quality cast iron can be found
with a simple test.. Suspend the item by handle.. lightly rap the edge 
with

a spoon.. if it is chinese crap.. you will get a "thunk".. if it is 1880
top quality cast iron.. it will ring like a bell.. "Ding"   if
it rings.. buy it...

If it is rusted, I bead blast it with metal shot [auto shop style] back to
bare metal and season it from scratch to perfection.. I love how it cooks
and it always comes out "just right".

I do have some hard limit rules regarding how it is cleaned and dried, how
it is pre-heated and what heats and oils I use to cook with..

To date I have bought and restored over 40 pieces,,, all the way from one
egg frying pans to 12 gp Dutch Ovens [and several smaller of various 
sizes].

If your pan is seasoned correctly and handled correctly, food never
sticks.  To preheat, put a small splash of water in the pan,, "rain
drops".. heat pan till water evaporates.. pan is now heated to 212 degrees
F. What ever you put in the pan to cook will make a "Phss" sound
when it hits the pan which braizes meat to seal in juices and flavors... 
As

soon as the "rain drops" evaporate add EVOO [or coconut oil, or oil of
choice] give it a moment to come to temp while you spread it with spatula
and add item to be cooked..

I will try to attach two pics of one of my seasoned to perfection pans, 
and

some corn bread pans [list mom please?]

Grant...

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

My cast iron cookware was passed to me from my great-grandmother,
grandmother, and mother, I presume some of it is well past 100 years old 
as

my ggm passed at like 98 back in the 80s, I think she got it when she got
married, no telling who it came from or if it was new when she got it. 
So

far it has held up well.  My daughter hijacked a few pieces of it, if she
keeps the line going I guess it will serve many more generations.  I have 
2

cornbread "corn" tins too, they are well used and loved.

I saw recently some dude has "reimagined" cast iron skillets, he has them
shaped sorta hexagonal so there are corners to pour from, and heavy wire
handles to pick up something cooler.  Some of mine have little pouring
lips, and a towel works fine for handling.

--R

On 11/16/13 3:31 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

  was a calphalon user until the ex wife stole it all.  then i went to
cast
iron and like it best of all

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Re: [MBZ] Car Hunting - W129

Searchtempest.com allows you to search CL.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 23, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Here's the dirt:
> 
> Youngest son's 2004 Focus is about at the end of it's life.  I can keep it 
> running, but there are some issues on the horizon I can't deal with myself, 
> which means the potential for putting more into it than it's worth.
> 
> I would like to find him a W129 of some sort.  Since these are pretty much 
> ubiquitous I figure I can find a decent one for a reasonable amount.  How 
> much?  I have a budget of between $3k-$5k.
> 
> Based on the market here, $5k can get you a pretty decent earlier model with 
> some miles on it but in good condition. $3k would definitely be a fixer-upper 
> of some sort, which, depending on what the needs were, I would consider.
> 
> I had a buddy who is also looking, but in a higher price range, who has found 
> a few (not the one by you, Gerry!)
> 
> I still have a line on the 84 380SL I was looking at last week, but the deal 
> is somewhat sketchy at this point, as the seller is a relative of the owner 
> and this is not a priority for them at this time.  If this panned out I would 
> get the 380SL and give him my S500.  I don't see this happening for now.
> 
> Why the W129?  He would like a convertible, and there are so darned many of 
> these things around that the prices are reasonable.  Also, since I already 
> have the S500 in the stable, I'm far more familiar with the systems on the 
> later model cars now, and as a result, more comfortable in my ability to 
> maintain them.
> 
> If you know of or see something that fits this criteria, drop me a note.  I 
> will travel for the right car.
> 
> Also, does anyone have a good search engine or tool for using with 
> Craigslist?  I know there are some out there, but I haven't found them yet
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Tar

2013-11-23 Thread Rich Thomas

I just saw where they are building a plant in the US, SC was trying to 
get it but I think it went somewhere else, Alabama maybe?


--R

On 11/23/13 12:51 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

kumho have a certain following . i don't know where they are from.  i'd
guess korea, like all good things of recent past, but it sounds kinda
finnish as well



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Re: [MBZ] I am about to be ill

One question. Who are "WE" ?

 "Victory over Germany was declared on May 18th, 1945. The 
time it took from the Declaration of War to Victory over Germany was 3 years, 5 
months and 7 days. Actually amazing when you consider it."


Others were fighting and dying for some time before WE got involved.

The rest I agree with.

 
Fred Moir 
Lynn MA 
Diesel preferred.


>
> From: Mitch Haley 
>To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 2:57 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] I am about to be ill
> 
>
>Craig wrote:
>
>Witless Wednesday; Obamacare By The Numbers
>   By Mike | November 13, 2013 - 11:00 am | America, Future, Libertarian, 
>Politics, Witless Wednesday
>
>I have been asked to put the recent circus called Obamacare into perspective. 
>Other than a disbelief in Progressivism as a viable policy, I have tried to be 
>at least reasonable about my critique of this administration. I’ve given him 
>the 
>benefit of the doubt on most right-wing fear mongering. I don’t put much 
>weight 
>into him being a Muslim agent, or Kenyan citizen, I don’t really believe he is 
>the Anti-Christ. I’m not wont to call the president, and his cabinet of 
>buffoons, evil. Sadly, though, he is turning out to be pretty much what I 
>feared 
>all along;
>
>He’s turning out to be as incompetent as every other far-left politician we 
>have 
>elected. Not evil, just incompetent. Progressivism is a policy of buffoonery 
>as 
>it is, and he is the most Progressive president we have ever elected. It’s 
>just 
>that now, with his name-sake achievement out in the open for public 
>consumption, 
>no amount of spin and rhetoric can cover for it anymore. That’s the problem 
>with 
>building a house of cards, one ill wind will topple it.
>
>
>So, the best comparison I can offer is the last time we mobilized an entire 
>government to accomplish a task. Forget for the moment the cost, the 
>duplicity, 
>the falsehoods, and even the spin. Let’s look at what I consider the true 
>telling of Progressive incompetence, by the numbers.
>
>We declared war on Japan on December 8th, 1941 a day after the attack on Pearl 
>Harbor, and war on Germany on December 11th. We had to build an army, an Air 
>Force and rebuild a Navy. We had to mobilize a public and retool our 
>industrial 
>base to manufacture tanks, planes, guns and bombs. We had to fight back 
>Fascism’s gains in Africa, Italy and across the Middle East. We had to 
>organize 
>and implement the largest invasion in the history of the World and beat 
>Germany 
>back across the Rhine. Victory over Germany was declared on May 18th, 1945. 
>The 
>time it took from the Declaration of War to Victory over Germany was 3 years, 
>5 
>months and 7 days. Actually amazing when you consider it.
>
>Now, let’s look at the modern equivalent;
>
>The Affordable Care Act was signed into law and fully funded on March 23rd, 
>2010. The website roll out, the public face of the act, was rolled out on 
>October 1st, 2013. They had the entire Federal Government working on this 
>program, and spared no expense. From implementation to execution of the law 
>took 
>3 years, 5 months, and 8 days. 1 day longer than it took to declare victory in 
>Germany. Look at Germany today. Look at Healthcare.gov. Draw your own 
>conclusions as to how well a bureaucracy can run anything, much less a program 
>that impacts every one of us. Anyway you look at it, it is incompetency on 
>parade.
>
>The saddest of all, is not the bumbling, the lies, the incompetence. Even the 
>hard core left Democrats are turning on the administration now. Clinton, 
>Landreau and even Feinstein are now dodging for cover and looking for excuses. 
>All trying to save the Democratic brand. Clinton of course knows this debacle 
>will crush Hillary’s chance at the presidency. Landreau is up for reelection 
>this year, so it’s no surprise her and 18 other Senate Democrats are now 
>crying 
>about the bill. Feinstein knows it will overturn the Senate in 2014, so she’s 
>now panicked. Even the Democratic cheerleaders in the domestic media can no 
>longer cover for a farce this obvious. Their ratings are in the toilet, and 
>they’re starting to figure why. The thing that is making me witless this 
>Wednesday is that a majority of voters still haven’t seemed to figure out what 
>kind of albatross they have had strapped to their futures. What’s the old 
>saying? No matter how big the fool, there is always a bigger fool to follow 
>them.
>
>So, another Wednesday, another reason to be witless. If you can excuse this 
>debacle, or point blame anywhere else but this incompetent administration; 
>then 
>welcome to the witless class, they have you right where they want you. I leave 
>you with a few reminders before you consider voting in 2014.
>
>And before you consider putting another progressive in office, the last word 
>on 
>the matter;
>
>Have a great Wednesday. Get yourself out of the Witless Class.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Jeep Alternator Brushes?

Only 300 k?  'Can't depend on anything any more.

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Toscano" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 12:01 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Jeep Alternator Brushes?

I'm getting intermittent charging on my 2001 Jeep Cherokee.  This behavior
started yesterday.  Today it was fine all day until after I started it up
after eating dinner.  Then it was around the 9 V and the check gauges 
light
came on.  It worked fine the next two starts, but then I stopped for gas 
on

the way home and it low again.  Volt meter shows 10.8 V when things aren't
working right.  Beat the alternator with a steel drift and it jumped back
to 13.4 V.  This is the original alternator, over 30 miles.  Does
anyone know if this era of Bosch alternators has brushes that can be
replaced as easy a Mercedes?  If so, where the brushes could be purchased?
Are Bosch remans at Mc Parts worth a bit more than double the price?  The
lower cost units are around $127. Bosch is $250-290..
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Re: [MBZ] tire fixing

2013-11-23 Thread Mitch Haley


MG wrote:
I'm surprised that you got it to remain steady enough to be usable with 
it only fastened to 1/2" plywood. Mine does work quite well fastened to 
the garage floor though. When I'm not using it I just unbolt it and put 
it away in the corner.


I think as long as the operator is standing on the same platform the changer is 
affixed to, you won't be moving it around when you reef on the handle.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Long shot missed

'Sounds like a goodun.  ;<)  'Hope all goes well, and perseverance wins 
again.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Craig" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Long shot missed

On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 21:42:29 -0700 Craig  wrote:

I haven't been sitting on my heels, though. I still have not heard back
from
Berry College in Rome, Georgia,
Lynntech, Inc., in College Station, Texas,
Western Carolina University in Cullowhee, North Carolina, or,
John Brown University in Siloam Springs, Arkansas
   (they now have a physics position open)

And I forgot to mention,

Kimball Physics in Wilton, New Hampshire.

Craig

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[MBZ] Car Hunting - W129

Here's the dirt:

Youngest son's 2004 Focus is about at the end of it's life.  I can keep it 
running, but there are some issues on the horizon I can't deal with myself, 
which means the potential for putting more into it than it's worth.

I would like to find him a W129 of some sort.  Since these are pretty much 
ubiquitous I figure I can find a decent one for a reasonable amount.  How much? 
 I have a budget of between $3k-$5k.

Based on the market here, $5k can get you a pretty decent earlier model with 
some miles on it but in good condition. $3k would definitely be a fixer-upper 
of some sort, which, depending on what the needs were, I would consider.

I had a buddy who is also looking, but in a higher price range, who has found a 
few (not the one by you, Gerry!)

I still have a line on the 84 380SL I was looking at last week, but the deal is 
somewhat sketchy at this point, as the seller is a relative of the owner and 
this is not a priority for them at this time.  If this panned out I would get 
the 380SL and give him my S500.  I don't see this happening for now.

Why the W129?  He would like a convertible, and there are so darned many of 
these things around that the prices are reasonable.  Also, since I already have 
the S500 in the stable, I'm far more familiar with the systems on the later 
model cars now, and as a result, more comfortable in my ability to maintain 
them.

If you know of or see something that fits this criteria, drop me a note.  I 
will travel for the right car.

Also, does anyone have a good search engine or tool for using with Craigslist?  
I know there are some out there, but I haven't found them yet

Thanks,

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Testing Glow Plugs

2013-11-23 Thread Mike Esh

I test all of the old ones I pull from the car with this method. I also test 
the new ones before putting them in the car. Last time I did this, 3 of the 5 
still "glowed", just as brightly as the new ones. 

Michael E. Esh
231-286-2344


> On Nov 23, 2013, at 12:16 PM, Larry T  wrote:
> 
> I was wondering - I'd like to test the GPs on my 240D - would it be 
> acceptable to hook them 1 at a time to my battery charger?  I read the 
> archives about testing GPs and the point was made that a GP might test good 
> with a meter when cold -  but can fail when it heats up - if I use my Battery 
> charger won't I cover that hot/cold problem?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -- 
> Larry
> Please Visit My AMSOIL Online Store:
> http://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/default.aspx?zo=5114156
> Oil Analysis Site - www.youroil.net
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Re: [MBZ] The joys of the self-employed

2013-11-23 Thread Mike Esh

Nice.

Michael E. Esh
231-286-2344


> On Nov 11, 2013, at 2:44 AM, Gerry Archer  wrote:
> 
> The  New Zealand Taxation Office suspected a fishing boat
> owner wasn't paying  proper wages to his help and sent an agent to
> investigate  him.
> 
> NZ TAX AGENT TO BOAT OWNER: "I need a list of your employees
> and how much you pay them".
> 
> Boat Owner: "Well,  there's  Clarence, my hired hand, he's
> been with me for 3  years. I pay him $1,000 a week plus free room and board.
> 
> Then there's the mentally challenged guy. He works about 18 hours  every day
> and does about 90% of the work around here. He makes  about $10 per week,
> pays his own room and board, and I buy him a  bottle of Coruba rum and a
> dozen Lagers every Saturday night so he  can cope with life. He also gets to
> sleep with my wife  occasionally".
> 
> NZ TO AUDITOR: "That's the guy I want  to talk to - the
> mentally challenged one".
> 
> Boat  Owner: "That'll be me. What'd you want to know"?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I am about to be ill

2013-11-23 Thread Mitch Haley


Craig wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:27:49 -0500 "Scott Ritchey" 
wrote:


Some credit might be given to:



I looked at this site and then sent the link to Shirley and two others.
Shirely got her email and said, "It doesn't work."

Sure enough, when I try to go back to fiveminutevacations.com, it can't
be found because it's not listed in my DNS server's database.



It works now.
http://fiveminutevacations.com/Blog/witless-wednesday-obamacare-by-the-numbers/

Witless Wednesday; Obamacare By The Numbers
  By Mike | November 13, 2013 - 11:00 am | America, Future, Libertarian, 
Politics, Witless Wednesday


I have been asked to put the recent circus called Obamacare into perspective. 
Other than a disbelief in Progressivism as a viable policy, I have tried to be 
at least reasonable about my critique of this administration. I’ve given him the 
benefit of the doubt on most right-wing fear mongering. I don’t put much weight 
into him being a Muslim agent, or Kenyan citizen, I don’t really believe he is 
the Anti-Christ. I’m not wont to call the president, and his cabinet of 
buffoons, evil. Sadly, though, he is turning out to be pretty much what I feared 
all along;


He’s turning out to be as incompetent as every other far-left politician we have 
elected. Not evil, just incompetent. Progressivism is a policy of buffoonery as 
it is, and he is the most Progressive president we have ever elected. It’s just 
that now, with his name-sake achievement out in the open for public consumption, 
no amount of spin and rhetoric can cover for it anymore. That’s the problem with 
building a house of cards, one ill wind will topple it.



So, the best comparison I can offer is the last time we mobilized an entire 
government to accomplish a task. Forget for the moment the cost, the duplicity, 
the falsehoods, and even the spin. Let’s look at what I consider the true 
telling of Progressive incompetence, by the numbers.


We declared war on Japan on December 8th, 1941 a day after the attack on Pearl 
Harbor, and war on Germany on December 11th. We had to build an army, an Air 
Force and rebuild a Navy. We had to mobilize a public and retool our industrial 
base to manufacture tanks, planes, guns and bombs. We had to fight back 
Fascism’s gains in Africa, Italy and across the Middle East. We had to organize 
and implement the largest invasion in the history of the World and beat Germany 
back across the Rhine. Victory over Germany was declared on May 18th, 1945. The 
time it took from the Declaration of War to Victory over Germany was 3 years, 5 
months and 7 days. Actually amazing when you consider it.


Now, let’s look at the modern equivalent;

The Affordable Care Act was signed into law and fully funded on March 23rd, 
2010. The website roll out, the public face of the act, was rolled out on 
October 1st, 2013. They had the entire Federal Government working on this 
program, and spared no expense. From implementation to execution of the law took 
3 years, 5 months, and 8 days. 1 day longer than it took to declare victory in 
Germany. Look at Germany today. Look at Healthcare.gov. Draw your own 
conclusions as to how well a bureaucracy can run anything, much less a program 
that impacts every one of us. Anyway you look at it, it is incompetency on parade.


The saddest of all, is not the bumbling, the lies, the incompetence. Even the 
hard core left Democrats are turning on the administration now. Clinton, 
Landreau and even Feinstein are now dodging for cover and looking for excuses. 
All trying to save the Democratic brand. Clinton of course knows this debacle 
will crush Hillary’s chance at the presidency. Landreau is up for reelection 
this year, so it’s no surprise her and 18 other Senate Democrats are now crying 
about the bill. Feinstein knows it will overturn the Senate in 2014, so she’s 
now panicked. Even the Democratic cheerleaders in the domestic media can no 
longer cover for a farce this obvious. Their ratings are in the toilet, and 
they’re starting to figure why. The thing that is making me witless this 
Wednesday is that a majority of voters still haven’t seemed to figure out what 
kind of albatross they have had strapped to their futures. What’s the old 
saying? No matter how big the fool, there is always a bigger fool to follow them.


So, another Wednesday, another reason to be witless. If you can excuse this 
debacle, or point blame anywhere else but this incompetent administration; then 
welcome to the witless class, they have you right where they want you. I leave 
you with a few reminders before you consider voting in 2014.


And before you consider putting another progressive in office, the last word on 
the matter;


Have a great Wednesday. Get yourself out of the Witless Class.

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Re: [MBZ] Testing Glow Plugs

On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 12:16:48 -0500 Larry T  wrote:

> I was wondering - I'd like to test the GPs on my 240D - would it be 
> acceptable to hook them 1 at a time to my battery charger?  I read the 
> archives about testing GPs and the point was made that a GP might test 
> good with a meter when cold -  but can fail when it heats up - if I use 
> my Battery charger won't I cover that hot/cold problem?

Your battery charger won't put out enough current to operate the glow
plug.

- Remove the glow plug (of course)
- Clamp the hex with a pair of vise-grips
- Touch the glow plug's center terminal to one battery terminal
- Touch the handle end of the vise-grips to the other battery terminal,
 if it's not long enough, extend with a wrench or something conductive
- Watch for the orange glow from the glow plug

CAUTION: The glow plug will be REALLY hot!

To test another, release the vise-grips to drop the tested glow plug onto
your concrete garage floor or something equally non-damagable.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] '78 240D Block Heater

I don't either & if I had time & resources I would fix everything.  But in
50 years of driving used cars I have learned you can have a 'good enough'
zone.
On Nov 23, 2013 8:48 AM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> I don't consider expecting everything to work as it's intended being anal.
>
> Using a toothbrush to clean the windshield wiper blades, now *that's* anal.
>
> And no, I don't do that.
>
> On Nov 22, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Larry T wrote:
>
> > Hey Dan,
> >We might be what they call "anal types"  --  we are of like minds...
> >
> > Larry
> > Please Visit My AMSOIL Online Store:
> > http://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/default.aspx?zo=5114156
> > Oil Analysis Site - www.youroil.net
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] 300TD SLS

you'll be able to figure out an improvisation that will succeed to some
extent or other


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Frederick Moir wrote:

> Gary.
> That is about what I expected, but thought that maybe the genii on the
> list would have better ideas.
>
> 1987 300TD 124.193 with 603.961 engine.
>
> Fred Moir
> Lynn MA
> Diesel preferred.
>
>
> >
> > From: Gary Hurst 
> >To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 2:37 AM
> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300TD SLS
> >
> >
> >it's likely considered integral.  sachs is a good place to ask but i doubt
> >they'd help beyond recommending you guy a new shock. if someone rebuilds
> >the shock a rebuilder is a good place, but i don't think anyone does.
> what
> >year is it again?
> >
> >
> >On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Frederick Moir  >wrote:
> >
> >> Andrew, et alia.
> >> The accumulators are round-ish blobs, no bellows in sight. The shocks
> >> (struts?) however do, or did on mine. nicht wahr?
> >> Just wanted to tax the founts of all knowledge on the MBZ list with this
> >> quandry.
> >>
> >> Fred Moir
> >>
> >> Lynn MA
> >>
> >> Diesel preferred.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 300TD SLS

front is no trick.   look at the rears and then get back to me on how this
coudl possibly work


On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> I don't recall these being service parts, but I do recall a time when
> Rusty had sold the kits for the front shocks with the bumper and bellows. I
> wonder if they would work on the rear?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:10 PM, Frederick Moir 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, all.
> > Is there a replacement for the bellows around the rear SLS Shocks on a
> 300TD, or, could anyone suggest an alternative?
> > The shocks themselves are fine and not leaking.
> >
> > Fred Moir
> >
> > Lynn MA
> >
> > Diesel preferred.
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[MBZ] Subject: Re: OT--Cookware Snob Opines

2013-11-23 Thread RDeafBoy

add EVOO [or coconut oil, or oil of
choice] give it a moment to come to  temp while you spread it with spatula
and add item to be cooked..

I  will try to attach two pics of one of my seasoned to perfection pans,  
and
some corn bread pans [list mom please?]

Grant...


I use ONLY coconut oil on my seasoned pan..thanx for some great  tips. 
I eat 2 tblspns of coconut oil a day for "da" brain as well as  cutting down 
on appetite cravings. Helped me tremendously since my stroke 4 yrs  ago. At 
63 I'm back to  playing basketball again
Bob
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Re: [MBZ] I can't think of a crappier way to start the day….

2013-11-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

No pictures came thru

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 23, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> As soon as the ListMom approves the pictures
> 
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Michael Canfield wrote:
>> 
>> Is there more to this?
>> 
>> Mike
>>> On Nov 23, 2013 12:13 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ..than walking in to work and turning around to see your 300SEL in flames.
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Re: [MBZ] Tar