[MBZ] Planet Hillary

2014-01-24 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
You fans of Hillary Clinton are going to enjoy these pictures of Planet 
Hillary.  [:o)

Gerry

http://www.cbc.ca/newsblogs/yourcommunity/2014/01/new-york-times-magazines-oddball-hillary-clinton-cover-sparks-photoshop-frenzy.html

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Re: [MBZ] shipping from carlsbad ca

2014-01-24 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
what do they want for a modern Imac?
On Jan 23, 2014 4:28 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 ATTABOY!  'Hope it goes well.

 Wilt

 - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 3:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] shipping from carlsbad ca


  Got an email from the guy in Carlsbad. He's sending me a bunch of
 pictures to confirm that I know what I'm getting, and will drop it off at a
 local UPS pack  ship on Saturday if it's what I want.

 Not bad - $200 for a laptop, MUX, cables and software.

 Plus the shipping, of course.

 Dan

  On Jan 22, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 I've been the recipient of a few of those Apple boxes.  HP does the same.

 Dan


  On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote:

 send the guy a padded box for the computer etc with a prepaid label

 could be mail or fedex

 that's what apple does for repairs  they send you the empty box to
 return a machine in for repair


 thanks,

 xx rick
 Rick Hawkins

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Perspective

2014-01-24 Thread WILTON

Amen.

Wilt

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 12:01 AM
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Perspective



Ever look at a common thing with new eyes from a different view?

Perspective on perspective
January 23, 2014 at 2:55pm
After a day of fine, dry snow and the horrendous wind gusts to blow it 
around, the park was empty of walkers as I stood on the banks of the 
Mississippi and observed the texture of its frozen waters. Any slightly 
raised surface had captured a tuft of snow as the wind carved across the 
ice. With the light coming from the side, each tiny snowy hillock was 
illuminated as a white dot or curve marking the surface topography against 
the gray of the ice. I stood silently taking it in before I realized that 
today I had remembered to bring my camera with me. I went to work trying 
capture the scene.


A tripod would be best. Any serious photographer would use one in this 
circumstance. I even had one in the car. Be prepared was the motto. I 
decided against being a serious photographer and instead made my way 
down the snow-covered riprap to the icy surface of one of the natural 
wonders of the world. We don't often think of the river in those terms. 
Indeed, most of us don't think of the river period unless it is either in 
our way or up to our back door. Still, we live within a stone's throw of 
one of the great rivers of the world. It is a rare pleasure (for me, at 
least) to be able to stand on its surface. I'm literally walking on water. 
Gingerly.


I examined the ice beneath my feet, noting the trapped air bubbles, 
patterns of lines and cracks. I take a photo, again missing the tripod and 
softly cursing my unwillingness to grab another cold piece of metal. I 
muse that no matter what sounds and noises are in the air, a vast expanse 
of solid ice seems to symbolize silence. The wind howls past my ears, but 
the ice regards me with a frigid silence-waiting perhaps for a misplaced 
step or a moment of inattention. I imagine the sound my head might make 
crashing into the ice, a sickening meeting of the biological and the 
elemental. I mind my step.


My mind begins dialectic on the qualities of ice, while my eyes scan the 
seemingly uniform surface that extends toward the main channel. I venture 
further out, considering, as I go, the similarities between ice, water, 
sand, and soil. They can all protect and preserve or utterly destroy the 
same item. Ice can entomb. Mammoths, man, or mullets, it makes no 
difference. All movements cease and the particular silence that is ice 
predominates. However well preserved the specimen is once freed from its 
frosty crystalline tomb, the silence has forever altered things.


Standing on the river, my perspective is altered. I'm seeing a familiar 
world in a new way. I'm still perfectly safe, but I feel less safe. Is 
that it? Perhaps I feel new and am reading it as less safe. I like it. 
I'm dressed for the weather, although still cold, and am eyeing the ice 
longingly. I look around to check for people who might be alarmed at the 
sight of a body stretched out on the Mississippi river ice. Seeing none, I 
lower myself carefully onto the ice, hindered by the camera around my 
neck. The difference in perspective is immediate and dramatic. While 
keeping the exposed skin of my face away from the surface, I release the 
rest of my body to the frozen river. My mind explodes with imagery.


My new perspective puts me into a series of bodies. My view of the bank is 
exactly the same as the gulls I've photographed from land. I see myself 
through the gull's eyes, my camera lens centered in the dark window of my 
car. Other gulls, some throwing their heads back and shrieking surround 
me. My mind transports me through a series of creatures I've seen or 
photographed and who saw me from roughly this same perspective-ring-neck 
ducks, Canada geese, muskrats, pelicans, carp, catfish, and northern water 
snakes. The cold is starting to sink into the bones of my legs.


The shore looks different from down here. From this vantage point I 
understand why the river cat liked to hunt the riprap. I named her the 
river cat because that is where I always saw her. She knew this stretch of 
rocks like the back of her paw. She hunted deliberately, with no wasted 
motion. The last time I saw the river cat she had a single kitten in tow. 
Tired of holding my head up, I rest it on my folded arm. Feeling my body 
pressing against the ice, I inhabit the body of a leopard seal, having 
hauled myself onto an ice floe to hunt juvenile penguins. I search the ice 
for bears but seeing none, I close my eyes and bask in the winter sun. 
My shivering body pulls me back to reality and I slowly work my way to my 
feet. I cross the ice and scramble up the snow-covered rocks and fall 
gratefully into my car. I start the engine and crank up the heater. As I 
warm up, I contemplate what just happened.



Re: [MBZ] OT: Perspective

2014-01-24 Thread Rich Thomas


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On 1/24/14 10:55 AM, WILTON wrote:

Amen.

Wilt

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Perspective





Not sure if this will work for everybody.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/william-windsor/perspective-on-perspective/10152182646034839 
There is one picture there.


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Re: [MBZ] remote door locking

2014-01-24 Thread Randy Bennell

On 23/01/2014 9:21 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

It seems to me that it ought not to be too hard to put one on [115].


I thought about doing this on our 450 SL.  I believe it would
work, if the torque of the existing lock is not too excessive.
Grab a boneyard actuator for some Asian car, and put on an
aftermarket remote.  Assuming they still are selling those.
Let the vacuum system run the rest of the car.

-- Jim




Pretty much what I was thinking.
Going to pull the door panel come spring to repair the map pocket 
anyway, so will have a look and see what might work then.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Wind Chill

2014-01-24 Thread Larry T

Thanks to all who responded. Ya'll are very informative! ;-)

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[MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Randy Bennell

You folks down south are not very warm these days.

I was looking at a US weather map last night to see how far  away south 
one would have to go to warm up and it appeared that only the tip of FL, 
AZ, part of CA and TX on the gulf coast was warm.

Every where else seemed to be reporting cold temps.
Was minus 30C here yesterday morning but is now minus 3 this morning. 
Supposed to be minus 22 by Saturday morning again.
Lots of snow (arriving in little bits about daily - no real big dumps 
lately)  and really windy yesteday so some drifting.
Need to haul out the blower again. Last time it broke and I fixed it 
temporarily with a zip tie. Not going to fix it good until it gets warm 
- like July!

Getting to where there is no place to pile snow.

Have I told you how tired of winter I am?

Oh well, only about 60 to 120 more days of it.
Never know here whether spring will come early or late.
If my memory is correct it was not too bad by the end of March last 
year. Snow was only waist deep the first time we went out to the lake on 
March 30.


We want to do a day run to Grand Forks ND but the road conditions have 
not been all that great and we truly do not NEED to go so we have been 
holding off and waiting for better times.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Rich Thomas
Here in SC it is only in the 30s toady but supposed to be in 50s and 60s 
(that's F) tomorrow and Sunday.  I hate cold now.  Time to start looking 
at Costa Rica!


--R


On 1/24/14 12:30 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

You folks down south are not very warm these days.

I was looking at a US weather map last night to see how far  away 
south one would have to go to warm up and it appeared that only the 
tip of FL, AZ, part of CA and TX on the gulf coast was warm.

Every where else seemed to be reporting cold temps.
Was minus 30C here yesterday morning but is now minus 3 this morning. 
Supposed to be minus 22 by Saturday morning again.
Lots of snow (arriving in little bits about daily - no real big dumps 
lately)  and really windy yesteday so some drifting.
Need to haul out the blower again. Last time it broke and I fixed it 
temporarily with a zip tie. Not going to fix it good until it gets 
warm - like July!

Getting to where there is no place to pile snow.

Have I told you how tired of winter I am?

Oh well, only about 60 to 120 more days of it.
Never know here whether spring will come early or late.
If my memory is correct it was not too bad by the end of March last 
year. Snow was only waist deep the first time we went out to the lake 
on March 30.


We want to do a day run to Grand Forks ND but the road conditions have 
not been all that great and we truly do not NEED to go so we have been 
holding off and waiting for better times.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Perspective

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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Dan Penoff
Yesterday's high was around 50F, it's been dipping down to freezing at night 
all this week.

It's supposed to get into the 70s this weekend, and I sure hope it does. It's 
damned cold for Florida, even if it is winter...

Dan

 On Jan 24, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 
 You folks down south are not very warm these days.
 
 I was looking at a US weather map last night to see how far  away south one 
 would have to go to warm up and it appeared that only the tip of FL, AZ, part 
 of CA and TX on the gulf coast was warm.
 Every where else seemed to be reporting cold temps.
 Was minus 30C here yesterday morning but is now minus 3 this morning. 
 Supposed to be minus 22 by Saturday morning again.
 Lots of snow (arriving in little bits about daily - no real big dumps lately) 
  and really windy yesteday so some drifting.
 Need to haul out the blower again. Last time it broke and I fixed it 
 temporarily with a zip tie. Not going to fix it good until it gets warm - 
 like July!
 Getting to where there is no place to pile snow.
 
 Have I told you how tired of winter I am?
 
 Oh well, only about 60 to 120 more days of it.
 Never know here whether spring will come early or late.
 If my memory is correct it was not too bad by the end of March last year. 
 Snow was only waist deep the first time we went out to the lake on March 30.
 
 We want to do a day run to Grand Forks ND but the road conditions have not 
 been all that great and we truly do not NEED to go so we have been holding 
 off and waiting for better times.
 
 Randy
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Perspective

2014-01-24 Thread r

 Dieselhead, thanks, that was awesome!


- Original Message -
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 12:01 AM
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Perspective


 Ever look at a common thing with new eyes from a different view?

 Perspective on perspective
 January 23, 2014 at 2:55pm
 After a day of fine, dry snow and the horrendous wind gusts to blow it
 around, the park was empty of walkers as I stood on the banks of the
 Mississippi and observed the texture of its frozen waters. Any slightly
 raised surface had captured a tuft of snow as the wind carved across the
 ice. With the light coming from the side, each tiny snowy hillock was
 illuminated as a white dot or curve marking the surface topography against
 the gray of the ice. I stood silently taking it in before I realized that
 today I had remembered to bring my camera with me. I went to work trying
 capture the scene.

 A tripod would be best. Any serious photographer would use one in this
 circumstance. I even had one in the car. Be prepared was the motto. I
 decided against being a serious photographer and instead made my way
 down the snow-covered riprap to the icy surface of one of the natural
 wonders of the world. We don't often think of the river in those terms.
 Indeed, most of us don't think of the river period unless it is either in
 our way or up to our back door. Still, we live within a stone's throw of
 one of the great rivers of the world. It is a rare pleasure (for me, at
 least) to be able to stand on its surface. I'm literally walking on water.
 Gingerly.

 I examined the ice beneath my feet, noting the trapped air bubbles,
 patterns of lines and cracks. I take a photo, again missing the tripod and
 softly cursing my unwillingness to grab another cold piece of metal. I
 muse that no matter what sounds and noises are in the air, a vast expanse
 of solid ice seems to symbolize silence. The wind howls past my ears, but
 the ice regards me with a frigid silence-waiting perhaps for a misplaced
 step or a moment of inattention. I imagine the sound my head might make
 crashing into the ice, a sickening meeting of the biological and the
 elemental. I mind my step.

 My mind begins dialectic on the qualities of ice, while my eyes scan the
 seemingly uniform surface that extends toward the main channel. I venture
 further out, considering, as I go, the similarities between ice, water,
 sand, and soil. They can all protect and preserve or utterly destroy the
 same item. Ice can entomb. Mammoths, man, or mullets, it makes no
 difference. All movements cease and the particular silence that is ice
 predominates. However well preserved the specimen is once freed from its
 frosty crystalline tomb, the silence has forever altered things.

 Standing on the river, my perspective is altered. I'm seeing a familiar
 world in a new way. I'm still perfectly safe, but I feel less safe. Is
 that it? Perhaps I feel new and am reading it as less safe. I like it.
 I'm dressed for the weather, although still cold, and am eyeing the ice
 longingly. I look around to check for people who might be alarmed at the
 sight of a body stretched out on the Mississippi river ice. Seeing none, I
 lower myself carefully onto the ice, hindered by the camera around my
 neck. The difference in perspective is immediate and dramatic. While
 keeping the exposed skin of my face away from the surface, I release the
 rest of my body to the frozen river. My mind explodes with imagery.

 My new perspective puts me into a series of bodies. My view of the bank is
 exactly the same as the gulls I've photographed from land. I see myself
 through the gull's eyes, my camera lens centered in the dark window of my
 car. Other gulls, some throwing their heads back and shrieking surround
 me. My mind transports me through a series of creatures I've seen or
 photographed and who saw me from roughly this same perspective-ring-neck
 ducks, Canada geese, muskrats, pelicans, carp, catfish, and northern water
 snakes. The cold is starting to sink into the bones of my legs.

 The shore looks different from down here. From this vantage point I
 understand why the river cat liked to hunt the riprap. I named her the
 river cat because that is where I always saw her. She knew this stretch of
 rocks like the back of her paw. She hunted deliberately, with no wasted
 motion. The last time I saw the river cat she had a single kitten in tow.
 Tired of holding my head up, I rest it on my folded arm. Feeling my body
 pressing against the ice, I inhabit the body of a leopard seal, having
 hauled myself onto an ice floe to hunt juvenile penguins. I search the ice
 for bears but seeing none, I close my eyes and bask in the winter sun.
 My shivering body pulls me back to reality and I slowly work my way to my
 feet. I cross the ice and scramble up the snow-covered rocks and fall
 gratefully into my car. I start the engine and crank up the heater. As I
 warm up, I 

Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Randy Bennell

Something I read on the net recently suggested Panama.

Randy who might settle for Florida

On 24/01/2014 11:44 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:
Here in SC it is only in the 30s toady but supposed to be in 50s and 
60s (that's F) tomorrow and Sunday.  I hate cold now.  Time to start 
looking at Costa Rica!


--R


On 1/24/14 12:30 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

You folks down south are not very warm these days.

I was looking at a US weather map last night to see how far away 
south one would have to go to warm up and it appeared that only the 
tip of FL, AZ, part of CA and TX on the gulf coast was warm.

Every where else seemed to be reporting cold temps.
Was minus 30C here yesterday morning but is now minus 3 this morning. 
Supposed to be minus 22 by Saturday morning again.
Lots of snow (arriving in little bits about daily - no real big dumps 
lately)  and really windy yesteday so some drifting.
Need to haul out the blower again. Last time it broke and I fixed it 
temporarily with a zip tie. Not going to fix it good until it gets 
warm - like July!

Getting to where there is no place to pile snow.

Have I told you how tired of winter I am?

Oh well, only about 60 to 120 more days of it.
Never know here whether spring will come early or late.
If my memory is correct it was not too bad by the end of March last 
year. Snow was only waist deep the first time we went out to the lake 
on March 30.


We want to do a day run to Grand Forks ND but the road conditions 
have not been all that great and we truly do not NEED to go so we 
have been holding off and waiting for better times.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Gary Hurst
69 here at present.  really nice.  i should run off but i actually have
stuff to do  :(


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 Yesterday's high was around 50F, it's been dipping down to freezing at
 night all this week.

 It's supposed to get into the 70s this weekend, and I sure hope it does.
 It's damned cold for Florida, even if it is winter...

 Dan

  On Jan 24, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 
  You folks down south are not very warm these days.
 
  I was looking at a US weather map last night to see how far  away south
 one would have to go to warm up and it appeared that only the tip of FL,
 AZ, part of CA and TX on the gulf coast was warm.
  Every where else seemed to be reporting cold temps.
  Was minus 30C here yesterday morning but is now minus 3 this morning.
 Supposed to be minus 22 by Saturday morning again.
  Lots of snow (arriving in little bits about daily - no real big dumps
 lately)  and really windy yesteday so some drifting.
  Need to haul out the blower again. Last time it broke and I fixed it
 temporarily with a zip tie. Not going to fix it good until it gets warm -
 like July!
  Getting to where there is no place to pile snow.
 
  Have I told you how tired of winter I am?
 
  Oh well, only about 60 to 120 more days of it.
  Never know here whether spring will come early or late.
  If my memory is correct it was not too bad by the end of March last
 year. Snow was only waist deep the first time we went out to the lake on
 March 30.
 
  We want to do a day run to Grand Forks ND but the road conditions have
 not been all that great and we truly do not NEED to go so we have been
 holding off and waiting for better times.
 
  Randy
 
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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Gary Hurst
my city is mostly canadian as far as the part time residents go, but they
are the francophone ones


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 Something I read on the net recently suggested Panama.

 Randy who might settle for Florida


 On 24/01/2014 11:44 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:

 Here in SC it is only in the 30s toady but supposed to be in 50s and 60s
 (that's F) tomorrow and Sunday.  I hate cold now.  Time to start looking at
 Costa Rica!

 --R


 On 1/24/14 12:30 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

 You folks down south are not very warm these days.

 I was looking at a US weather map last night to see how far away south
 one would have to go to warm up and it appeared that only the tip of FL,
 AZ, part of CA and TX on the gulf coast was warm.
 Every where else seemed to be reporting cold temps.
 Was minus 30C here yesterday morning but is now minus 3 this morning.
 Supposed to be minus 22 by Saturday morning again.
 Lots of snow (arriving in little bits about daily - no real big dumps
 lately)  and really windy yesteday so some drifting.
 Need to haul out the blower again. Last time it broke and I fixed it
 temporarily with a zip tie. Not going to fix it good until it gets warm -
 like July!
 Getting to where there is no place to pile snow.

 Have I told you how tired of winter I am?

 Oh well, only about 60 to 120 more days of it.
 Never know here whether spring will come early or late.
 If my memory is correct it was not too bad by the end of March last
 year. Snow was only waist deep the first time we went out to the lake on
 March 30.

 We want to do a day run to Grand Forks ND but the road conditions have
 not been all that great and we truly do not NEED to go so we have been
 holding off and waiting for better times.

 Randy

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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Randy Bennell

On 24/01/2014 1:49 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

my city is mostly canadian as far as the part time residents go, but they
are the francophone ones



Cannot really blame them for getting out of Quebec.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-24 Thread r
 I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen on
one black sedan.  Black is the only color I would have.

R
 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is
From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure cosmetic
appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not functional -
same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate
them.


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
wrote:

 The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111 fins
 may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car. If
 you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very
 attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like
 they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good looking
 rear view.




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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread WILTON

Uh-oh.  ;)

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold



On 24/01/2014 1:49 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

my city is mostly canadian as far as the part time residents go, but they
are the francophone ones



Cannot really blame them for getting out of Quebec.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Gary Hurst
they are a strange lot.  no one knows anything about them.  they are
outwardly friendly but will not engage in anything more than the most
superficial contact with anyone from another group.  they even bring down
their own tradesman with them for the 5 1/2 months they live here.  it's
like some kind of gypsy caravan that has been coming here for 40 years.

every year i will try a little to break through with them but never
succeed.  they are harder to get close to than the russians even and that
is saying something!  on the plus side, they are affluent and spend money
locally, causing no trouble and demanding little beyond a little gravy and
cheese on their french fries and maybe some good quality olives


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 On 24/01/2014 1:49 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

 my city is mostly canadian as far as the part time residents go, but they
 are the francophone ones


  Cannot really blame them for getting out of Quebec.


 Randy

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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Rich Thomas
Panama seems to be welcoming too, have not been there but was close in 
CR.  A buddy of mine spent a coupla weeks there back a few months ago, 
he really loved it.


Some years ago CR had a very attractive program for gringos to come and 
bring money to buy property, etc. and get tax breaks.  I think they 
discontinued that, but money goes pretty far there, and you don't need 
much in the way of heat and AC or clothing!  Property values have gone 
up considerably in the last 10 years or so, pressure I guess from people 
discovering it is a great place.  I was talking to a friend about CR the 
other day, it is only 4hr from Houston if some significant medical care 
is needed, though apparently the docs and hospitals there are pretty 
good from what I have heard.  Wifey and I have sorta discussed it in an 
offhand way, she could do some doctoring, I could set something up for 
furniture or lumber or something to export.  Or just have a few acres 
with some gardens and live like the locals in the countryside.


We stayed in a place in Ocatal some years ago, the guy who owned it had 
moved there to retire, was going to build a sizable house on some 
property he had bought under that program, then this hotel came on the 
market.  Seems 2 guys had built it (it was very nice, about 20 suites on 
the beach) but had no clue as to marketing, so it was going bust.  He 
figured that would be a good place for his kids and fam to stay if they 
visited, and would give him something useful to do, so instead of 
building a big house he bought it and started advertising in Houston, 
Phoenix, LA and SFO, and was keeping it about 80-90% full and having a 
great time.  Sounded like a great deal.


--R

On 1/24/14 2:46 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

Something I read on the net recently suggested Panama.

Randy who might settle for Florida

On 24/01/2014 11:44 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:
Here in SC it is only in the 30s toady but supposed to be in 50s and 
60s (that's F) tomorrow and Sunday.  I hate cold now.  Time to start 
looking at Costa Rica!


--R


On 1/24/14 12:30 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

You folks down south are not very warm these days.

I was looking at a US weather map last night to see how far away 
south one would have to go to warm up and it appeared that only the 
tip of FL, AZ, part of CA and TX on the gulf coast was warm.

Every where else seemed to be reporting cold temps.
Was minus 30C here yesterday morning but is now minus 3 this 
morning. Supposed to be minus 22 by Saturday morning again.
Lots of snow (arriving in little bits about daily - no real big 
dumps lately)  and really windy yesteday so some drifting.
Need to haul out the blower again. Last time it broke and I fixed it 
temporarily with a zip tie. Not going to fix it good until it gets 
warm - like July!

Getting to where there is no place to pile snow.

Have I told you how tired of winter I am?

Oh well, only about 60 to 120 more days of it.
Never know here whether spring will come early or late.
If my memory is correct it was not too bad by the end of March last 
year. Snow was only waist deep the first time we went out to the 
lake on March 30.


We want to do a day run to Grand Forks ND but the road conditions 
have not been all that great and we truly do not NEED to go so we 
have been holding off and waiting for better times.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Randy Bennell

Some may not know enough English to speak with you at any length.

Randy

On 24/01/2014 2:01 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

they are a strange lot.  no one knows anything about them.  they are
outwardly friendly but will not engage in anything more than the most
superficial contact with anyone from another group.  they even bring down
their own tradesman with them for the 5 1/2 months they live here.  it's
like some kind of gypsy caravan that has been coming here for 40 years.

every year i will try a little to break through with them but never
succeed.  they are harder to get close to than the russians even and that
is saying something!  on the plus side, they are affluent and spend money
locally, causing no trouble and demanding little beyond a little gravy and
cheese on their french fries and maybe some good quality olives


On 24/01/2014 1:49 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:


my city is mostly canadian as far as the part time residents go, but they
are the francophone ones






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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Gary Hurst
it's always hard to tell when someone really does not speak the language or
they just want you to think they don't speak.  hungarian is my native
language but i have a habit of letting people speak freely and not let on
that i understand anything they are saying


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 Some may not know enough English to speak with you at any length.

 Randy


 On 24/01/2014 2:01 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

 they are a strange lot.  no one knows anything about them.  they are
 outwardly friendly but will not engage in anything more than the most
 superficial contact with anyone from another group.  they even bring down
 their own tradesman with them for the 5 1/2 months they live here.  it's
 like some kind of gypsy caravan that has been coming here for 40 years.

 every year i will try a little to break through with them but never
 succeed.  they are harder to get close to than the russians even and that
 is saying something!  on the plus side, they are affluent and spend money
 locally, causing no trouble and demanding little beyond a little gravy and
 cheese on their french fries and maybe some good quality olives


 On 24/01/2014 1:49 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

  my city is mostly canadian as far as the part time residents go, but they
 are the francophone ones





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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Rich Thomas

That doesn't stop Jabba, he speaks New Joisey or Lawnguyland

--R


On 1/24/14 3:04 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

Some may not know enough English to speak with you at any length.

Randy

On 24/01/2014 2:01 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

they are a strange lot.  no one knows anything about them.  they are
outwardly friendly but will not engage in anything more than the most
superficial contact with anyone from another group.  they even bring 
down

their own tradesman with them for the 5 1/2 months they live here.  it's
like some kind of gypsy caravan that has been coming here for 40 years.

every year i will try a little to break through with them but never
succeed.  they are harder to get close to than the russians even and 
that
is saying something!  on the plus side, they are affluent and spend 
money
locally, causing no trouble and demanding little beyond a little 
gravy and

cheese on their french fries and maybe some good quality olives


On 24/01/2014 1:49 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

my city is mostly canadian as far as the part time residents go, 
but they

are the francophone ones






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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-24 Thread Dan Penoff
The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick one out in a 
crowd.

Dan

 On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote:
 
 I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen on
 one black sedan.  Black is the only color I would have.
 
 R
  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is
 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure cosmetic
 appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not functional -
 same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate
 them.
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111 fins
 may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car. If
 you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very
 attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like
 they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good looking
 rear view.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Gary Hurst
i am fluent in both


when i was a kid, fran drescher was one of the girls who worked at the
local movie theater, but i don't remember her as they all sounded that way!
(actually, i'd think her voice isn't real so she never did and doesn't
sound that way, but i felt the line fit the moment)


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 That doesn't stop Jabba, he speaks New Joisey or Lawnguyland

 --R



 On 1/24/14 3:04 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

 Some may not know enough English to speak with you at any length.

 Randy

 On 24/01/2014 2:01 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

 they are a strange lot.  no one knows anything about them.  they are
 outwardly friendly but will not engage in anything more than the most
 superficial contact with anyone from another group.  they even bring down
 their own tradesman with them for the 5 1/2 months they live here.  it's
 like some kind of gypsy caravan that has been coming here for 40 years.

 every year i will try a little to break through with them but never
 succeed.  they are harder to get close to than the russians even and that
 is saying something!  on the plus side, they are affluent and spend money
 locally, causing no trouble and demanding little beyond a little gravy
 and
 cheese on their french fries and maybe some good quality olives


 On 24/01/2014 1:49 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

  my city is mostly canadian as far as the part time residents go, but
 they
 are the francophone ones





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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Randy Bennell
True. If you go into rural Quebec you may find the folks refuse to speak 
English even if they do know it.

I would think it less likely that they would do that when in Florida.
And, I do believe there are people in Quebec who truly do not speak English.

Randy

On 24/01/2014 2:11 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

it's always hard to tell when someone really does not speak the language or
they just want you to think they don't speak.  hungarian is my native
language but i have a habit of letting people speak freely and not let on
that i understand anything they are saying


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


Some may not know enough English to speak with you at any length.

Randy


On 24/01/2014 2:01 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:


they are a strange lot.  no one knows anything about them.  they are
outwardly friendly but will not engage in anything more than the most
superficial contact with anyone from another group.  they even bring down
their own tradesman with them for the 5 1/2 months they live here.  it's
like some kind of gypsy caravan that has been coming here for 40 years.

every year i will try a little to break through with them but never
succeed.  they are harder to get close to than the russians even and that
is saying something!  on the plus side, they are affluent and spend money
locally, causing no trouble and demanding little beyond a little gravy and
cheese on their french fries and maybe some good quality olives


On 24/01/2014 1:49 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

  my city is mostly canadian as far as the part time residents go, but they

are the francophone ones





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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Gary Hurst
sure, but these are not them.  these are rich folk from montreal.  (nearly
every car seems to have been purchased in a city called laval, which i
believe to either part of montreal or a suburb).  they function quite well
and seem able to speak english well enough to make their wishes known.
they just want to be apart

everyone here is happy to let them be apart, except the canadians from
ontario, who hate the quebecois with a fanatical passion and try to get
full timers down her to join them.  but we don't as we just don't care.


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 True. If you go into rural Quebec you may find the folks refuse to speak
 English even if they do know it.
 I would think it less likely that they would do that when in Florida.
 And, I do believe there are people in Quebec who truly do not speak
 English.

 Randy


 On 24/01/2014 2:11 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

 it's always hard to tell when someone really does not speak the language
 or
 they just want you to think they don't speak.  hungarian is my native
 language but i have a habit of letting people speak freely and not let on
 that i understand anything they are saying


 On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
 wrote:

  Some may not know enough English to speak with you at any length.

 Randy


 On 24/01/2014 2:01 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

  they are a strange lot.  no one knows anything about them.  they are
 outwardly friendly but will not engage in anything more than the most
 superficial contact with anyone from another group.  they even bring
 down
 their own tradesman with them for the 5 1/2 months they live here.  it's
 like some kind of gypsy caravan that has been coming here for 40 years.

 every year i will try a little to break through with them but never
 succeed.  they are harder to get close to than the russians even and
 that
 is saying something!  on the plus side, they are affluent and spend
 money
 locally, causing no trouble and demanding little beyond a little gravy
 and
 cheese on their french fries and maybe some good quality olives


 On 24/01/2014 1:49 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

   my city is mostly canadian as far as the part time residents go, but
 they

 are the francophone ones




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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Mitch Haley

Randy Bennell wrote:
True. If you go into rural Quebec you may find the folks refuse to speak 
English even if they do know it.

I would think it less likely that they would do that when in Florida.
And, I do believe there are people in Quebec who truly do not speak 
English.


Met a group of Kaybecker college students at a campground in Ontario in the 
1970s. Not a one of them knew how to start a fire. They were holding matches to 
a log and wondering why it didn't reach combustion temp. They were quite 
friendly after my brother and dad split a log into kindling and showed them how 
to start a fire.


One of the males and none of the females spoke English, or maybe (but unlikely) 
some of the others were hiding it. French was a mandatory class in Ontario 
elementary schools, but maybe English isn't mandatory in Quebec?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Randy Bennell

On 24/01/2014 2:40 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Randy Bennell wrote:
True. If you go into rural Quebec you may find the folks refuse to 
speak English even if they do know it.

I would think it less likely that they would do that when in Florida.
And, I do believe there are people in Quebec who truly do not speak 
English.


Met a group of Kaybecker college students at a campground in Ontario 
in the 1970s. Not a one of them knew how to start a fire. They were 
holding matches to a log and wondering why it didn't reach combustion 
temp. They were quite friendly after my brother and dad split a log 
into kindling and showed them how to start a fire.


One of the males and none of the females spoke English, or maybe (but 
unlikely) some of the others were hiding it. French was a mandatory 
class in Ontario elementary schools, but maybe English isn't mandatory 
in Quebec?


Mitch.

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No, I am afraid it is the other way. English is almost forbidden in 
Quebec in the schools.
A client moved to Montreal a number of years ago and I saw him a year or 
two later.

I asked how he was doing in terms of learning French and he said not good.
Part of the problem was that as soon as the people in the city knew that 
he spoke English, they wanted to speak to him in English so that they 
could practise their English and try to learn.

(maybe so they could get out of Quebed?).
He said he could practise his French in the rural areas.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread WILTON

Vraiment?

Wilt

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold



Some may not know enough English to speak with you at any length.

Randy

On 24/01/2014 2:01 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

they are a strange lot.  no one knows anything about them.  they are
outwardly friendly but will not engage in anything more than the most
superficial contact with anyone from another group.  they even bring down
their own tradesman with them for the 5 1/2 months they live here.  it's
like some kind of gypsy caravan that has been coming here for 40 years.

every year i will try a little to break through with them but never
succeed.  they are harder to get close to than the russians even and that
is saying something!  on the plus side, they are affluent and spend money
locally, causing no trouble and demanding little beyond a little gravy 
and

cheese on their french fries and maybe some good quality olives


On 24/01/2014 1:49 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

my city is mostly canadian as far as the part time residents go, but 
they

are the francophone ones






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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Scott Ritchey

On a business trip to Canada (well east of Montreal, probably about 1968) I
couldn't find anyone who would speak with me until I mentioned I was from
the US.  It seems it was unforgivable if a Canadian didn't speak French but
much less was expected from an ignorant foreigner.  In fact, the fellow was
delighted for an opportunity to practice his English but he would not
consider such a conversation with a non-French-speaking Canadian.

Scott

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 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary
 Hurst
 Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 3:12 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold
 
 it's always hard to tell when someone really does not speak the language
 or
 they just want you to think they don't speak.  hungarian is my native
 language but i have a habit of letting people speak freely and not let on
 that i understand anything they are saying
 
 



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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Dwight Giles
On my first visit to Montreal in the 80's the conference organizers
recommended we have an American flag in our lapel so they didn't think we
were english canadians.
On Jan 24, 2014 6:08 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:


 On a business trip to Canada (well east of Montreal, probably about 1968) I
 couldn't find anyone who would speak with me until I mentioned I was from
 the US.  It seems it was unforgivable if a Canadian didn't speak French but
 much less was expected from an ignorant foreigner.  In fact, the fellow was
 delighted for an opportunity to practice his English but he would not
 consider such a conversation with a non-French-speaking Canadian.

 Scott

  -Original Message-
  From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary
  Hurst
  Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 3:12 PM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold
 
  it's always hard to tell when someone really does not speak the language
  or
  they just want you to think they don't speak.  hungarian is my native
  language but i have a habit of letting people speak freely and not let on
  that i understand anything they are saying
 
 



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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Dan Penoff
When I was a kid we did a driving vacation from Indianapolis, across Niagara 
and up the St. Lawrence, going up and over the Gaspe to Halifax and then across 
the Bay of Fundy on the ferry to Maine and back to Indy.

We stayed at a couple of BBs that were literally nothing more than people 
renting out spare bedrooms.  They spoke French but little English, however, 
they were very accommodating and made an effort to communicate.  One of the 
stops was at a resort at St. Jean-Port Joli Quebec.  The place was huge, 
located right on the shores of the St. Lawrence, but it was cold as heck 
(August?)  I recall how the asshat servers in the restaurant pretended not to 
understand English, yet you could hear them speaking both English and French in 
the kitchen.  They made fun of my Dad trying to order a beer - we heard them.

Dad, who is mightly pissed by now, walks back into the kitchen and tells 
thefrogs they better get him his f-ing beer before he walks out and refuses 
to pay the bill.

They weren't pleasant after that but I did recall there was no problem with our 
ordering in English.

Dan


On Jan 24, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

 On my first visit to Montreal in the 80's the conference organizers
 recommended we have an American flag in our lapel so they didn't think we
 were english canadians.
 On Jan 24, 2014 6:08 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 
 On a business trip to Canada (well east of Montreal, probably about 1968) I
 couldn't find anyone who would speak with me until I mentioned I was from
 the US.  It seems it was unforgivable if a Canadian didn't speak French but
 much less was expected from an ignorant foreigner.  In fact, the fellow was
 delighted for an opportunity to practice his English but he would not
 consider such a conversation with a non-French-speaking Canadian.
 
 Scott
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary
 Hurst
 Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 3:12 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold
 
 it's always hard to tell when someone really does not speak the language
 or
 they just want you to think they don't speak.  hungarian is my native
 language but i have a habit of letting people speak freely and not let on
 that i understand anything they are saying
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
There must be quite a few Anglos in Quebec.  Otherwise why would they 
put on an Anglo show like Bowser nd Bloom?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxoOvj9XngM

Gerry
.

On 1/24/2014 3:30 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
True. If you go into rural Quebec you may find the folks refuse to 
speak English even if they do know it.

I would think it less likely that they would do that when in Florida.
And, I do believe there are people in Quebec who truly do not speak 
English.


Randy

On 24/01/2014 2:11 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
it's always hard to tell when someone really does not speak the 
language or

they just want you to think they don't speak.  hungarian is my native
language but i have a habit of letting people speak freely and not 
let on

that i understand anything they are saying


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca 
wrote:



Some may not know enough English to speak with you at any length.

Randy


On 24/01/2014 2:01 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:


they are a strange lot.  no one knows anything about them.  they are
outwardly friendly but will not engage in anything more than the most
superficial contact with anyone from another group.  they even 
bring down
their own tradesman with them for the 5 1/2 months they live here.  
it's
like some kind of gypsy caravan that has been coming here for 40 
years.


every year i will try a little to break through with them but never
succeed.  they are harder to get close to than the russians even 
and that
is saying something!  on the plus side, they are affluent and spend 
money
locally, causing no trouble and demanding little beyond a little 
gravy and

cheese on their french fries and maybe some good quality olives


On 24/01/2014 1:49 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

  my city is mostly canadian as far as the part time residents go, 
but they

are the francophone ones





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[MBZ] I'm actually half way interested in this

2014-01-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It's either this or a 99 e300 turbo

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 Date: January 24, 2014 at 6:12:06 PM CST
 To: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 Subject: 91 Mercedes 350 SDL Turbo Diesel (update) 6500
 
 
 http://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/4278045138.html
 
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[MBZ] Alpine CD Player

2014-01-24 Thread Larry T

Hi Ya'll,
I've been using an Alpine S600 6 disc CD Player mounted in the 
truck of my 91 300D.  It has worked fine for 7 or 8 years but today it 
stopped working.  Each of the 6 CDs will load and unload and the 
cartridge will eject but once a CD loads it does not start spinning  
playing.


My particular W124 has the optional factory upscale stereo with the 
tuner and amp in the trunk.  This makes installaton of a modern Stereo 
CD player a little more complicated because all the wiring  (6 or 8 
speakers) is presently run into the trunk as is the aerial wiring.


The weird part is I also have an Alpine S601 as a spare but it does 
the same thing.   I don't know if I have 2 bad CD Units, a bad tuner or 
a bad amplifier.


Any ideas?   does anyone have an Alpine S6XX I can buy perhaps?   I 
have the MB/Becker/Alpine interface in the truck and it has worked as it 
should.   It works with both CD Players.   I noticed the Alpine Audio 
Head Units are guaranteed for life so if that's a possibility I can find 
a Alpine Shop, but I somehow doubt that.


Thanks Guys -

--
Sincerely,
Larry

91 300D 2.5 Turbo

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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Even their French is pretty strange.  The rurals there use a lot of archaic
language and expressions.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Bennell
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 12:31 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold

True. If you go into rural Quebec you may find the folks refuse to speak
English even if they do know it.
I would think it less likely that they would do that when in Florida.
And, I do believe there are people in Quebec who truly do not speak English.

Randy

On 24/01/2014 2:11 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
 it's always hard to tell when someone really does not speak the 
 language or they just want you to think they don't speak.  hungarian 
 is my native language but i have a habit of letting people speak 
 freely and not let on that i understand anything they are saying


 On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
wrote:

 Some may not know enough English to speak with you at any length.

 Randy


 On 24/01/2014 2:01 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

 they are a strange lot.  no one knows anything about them.  they are 
 outwardly friendly but will not engage in anything more than the 
 most superficial contact with anyone from another group.  they even 
 bring down their own tradesman with them for the 5 1/2 months they 
 live here.  it's like some kind of gypsy caravan that has been coming
here for 40 years.

 every year i will try a little to break through with them but never 
 succeed.  they are harder to get close to than the russians even and 
 that is saying something!  on the plus side, they are affluent and 
 spend money locally, causing no trouble and demanding little beyond 
 a little gravy and cheese on their french fries and maybe some good 
 quality olives


 On 24/01/2014 1:49 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

   my city is mostly canadian as far as the part time residents go, 
 but they
 are the francophone ones




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Re: [MBZ] Alpine CD Player

2014-01-24 Thread Dan Penoff
Call up Ed Ebel at Becker Auto Sound on Monday and he'll help you to 
troubleshoot it.

Dan


On Jan 24, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Larry T wrote:

 Hi Ya'll,
I've been using an Alpine S600 6 disc CD Player mounted in the truck of my 
 91 300D.  It has worked fine for 7 or 8 years but today it stopped working.  
 Each of the 6 CDs will load and unload and the cartridge will eject but once 
 a CD loads it does not start spinning  playing.
 
My particular W124 has the optional factory upscale stereo with the tuner 
 and amp in the trunk.  This makes installaton of a modern Stereo CD player a 
 little more complicated because all the wiring  (6 or 8 speakers) is 
 presently run into the trunk as is the aerial wiring.
 
The weird part is I also have an Alpine S601 as a spare but it does the 
 same thing.   I don't know if I have 2 bad CD Units, a bad tuner or a bad 
 amplifier.
 
Any ideas?   does anyone have an Alpine S6XX I can buy perhaps?   I have 
 the MB/Becker/Alpine interface in the truck and it has worked as it should.   
 It works with both CD Players.   I noticed the Alpine Audio Head Units are 
 guaranteed for life so if that's a possibility I can find a Alpine Shop, but 
 I somehow doubt that.
 
Thanks Guys -
 
 -- 
 Sincerely,
 Larry
 
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo
 
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Re: [MBZ] I'm actually half way interested in this

2014-01-24 Thread Dieselhead

It's either this or a 99 e300 turbo

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 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 Date: January 24, 2014 at 6:12:06 PM CST
 To: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 Subject: 91 Mercedes 350 SDL Turbo Diesel (update) 6500



  http://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/4278045138.html
 



Is Schuler Autohaus the same clowns that put the rebuilt IP in the 
SDL I got from you?  The one that  they could not even get the the IP 
timing close to right?   The car had a schuler autohaus front license 
thing on  it when I got it.  I sure would not trust them to install a 
long block unless I can find out for sure who fixed the other SDL.

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Re: [MBZ] I'm actually half way interested in this

2014-01-24 Thread Mitch Haley

A '91 SDL, in Wilton's favorite color!
(not kidding, it isn't black)
Mitch.

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

It's either this or a 99 e300 turbo

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Subject: 91 Mercedes 350 SDL Turbo Diesel (update) 6500


http://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/4278045138.html



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Re: [MBZ] cold

2014-01-24 Thread Curt Raymond
You cross the border at Vermont and English STOPS. You'd think the little cafes 
and such just over the border would be bi-lingual but either they don't want to 
or unable to speak English.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:30:30 -0600
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold
Message-ID: 52e2cd66.1060...@bennell.ca
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

True. If you go into rural Quebec you may find the folks refuse to speak 
English even if they do know it.
I would think it less likely that they would do that when in Florida.
And, I do believe there are people in Quebec who truly do not speak English.

Randy
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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-24 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
OTOH, the W111 coupes are among the most beautiful cars ever designed.


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick one out
 in a crowd.

 Dan

  On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote:
 
  I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen on
  one black sedan.  Black is the only color I would have.
 
  R
   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is
  From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
  Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
  The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure cosmetic
  appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not functional -
  same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate
  them.
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111 fins
  may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car.
 If
  you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very
  attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like
  they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good
 looking
  rear view.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Old Aladdin Lamp

2014-01-24 Thread Hendrik and Fay

That kinda beats my when I was your age whine at the kids.
I do try and make out I had to walk barefoot to school in the snow but 
they don't believe me anymore.


Hendrik
who did not actually walk barefoot through the snow

On 18/01/14 14:10, WILTON wrote:
As a child before 1946 (moved to a house with electricity in Jan '46), 
I did my school homework by the light of a nickel-plated brass Aladdin 
lamp.  My sister has it now.  We still have SWMBO's family's identical 
lamp here in the house.


Wilton




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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-24 Thread Dwight Giles
Well IMHO a 123 coupe has beautiful lines as well.
On Jan 24, 2014 8:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 OTOH, the W111 coupes are among the most beautiful cars ever designed.


 On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

  The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick one out
  in a crowd.
 
  Dan
 
   On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote:
  
   I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen on
   one black sedan.  Black is the only color I would have.
  
   R
    Original Message 
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is
   From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
   Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm
   To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  
   The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure cosmetic
   appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not functional -
   same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate
   them.
  
  
   On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111
 fins
   may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful car.
  If
   you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very
   attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look like
   they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good
  looking
   rear view.
  
  
  
  
   --
   OK Don
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   safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775
   in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and
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Re: [MBZ] I'm actually half way interested in this

2014-01-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If you went to nw Arkansas I suppose, that is where they are located.

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On Jan 24, 2014, at 6:24 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's either this or a 99 e300 turbo
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 Date: January 24, 2014 at 6:12:06 PM CST
 To: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 Subject: 91 Mercedes 350 SDL Turbo Diesel (update) 6500
  http://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/4278045138.html
 
 
 
 Is Schuler Autohaus the same clowns that put the rebuilt IP in the SDL I 
 got from you?  The one that  they could not even get the the IP timing close 
 to right?   The car had a schuler autohaus front license thing on  it when I 
 got it.  I sure would not trust them to install a long block unless I can 
 find out for sure who fixed the other SDL.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Aladdin Lamp presents

2014-01-24 Thread Hendrik and Fay

So my Chrissy gift is still in the mail?

Hendrik
who is a greedy bugger

On 18/01/14 12:19, Frederick Moir wrote:

Gee.
That lamp sat in my basement, unloved, for 20+ years.
Enjoy!
  
Fred Moir

Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.




From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 8:25 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Aladdin Lamp


Fred gave me an Aladdin lamp for Christmas.




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Re: [MBZ] OT: Old Aladdin Lamp

2014-01-24 Thread Dieselhead

That kinda beats my when I was your age whine at the kids.
I do try and make out I had to walk barefoot to school in the snow 
but they don't believe me anymore.


Hendrik
who did not actually walk barefoot through the snow


I didn't, but we had a neighbor who walked a mile or so through 
timber in the snow and cold to bring Christmas presents to us every 
year, even in his 60s and 70s.  The last few years, he wore shoes. 
Some times my Dad took him home, but mostly he walked home.


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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-24 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Not bad, but not all that great either.


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.comwrote:

 Well IMHO a 123 coupe has beautiful lines as well.
 On Jan 24, 2014 8:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  OTOH, the W111 coupes are among the most beautiful cars ever designed.
 
 
  On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
   The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick one
 out
   in a crowd.
  
   Dan
  
On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote:
   
I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen
 on
one black sedan.  Black is the only color I would have.
   
R
 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is
From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
   
The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure
 cosmetic
appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not
 functional -
same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate
them.
   
   
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
wrote:
   
The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The 110/111
  fins
may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful
 car.
   If
you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very
attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look
 like
they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good
   looking
rear view.
   
   
   
   
--
OK Don
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775
in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and
taxes.
- Benjamin Franklin 1789
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is

2014-01-24 Thread Dwight Giles
Well not up there with  w111 for sure. My favorite driver is my w124 but I
think it is almost ugly compared to earlier setues. No offense to Bruno
Saco.
On Jan 24, 2014 9:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not bad, but not all that great either.


 On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Well IMHO a 123 coupe has beautiful lines as well.
  On Jan 24, 2014 8:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   OTOH, the W111 coupes are among the most beautiful cars ever designed.
  
  
   On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
  
The W112 had all the fancy moulding. That's the easy way to pick one
  out
in a crowd.
   
Dan
   
 On Jan 24, 2014, at 2:54 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote:

 I like the early fins and all the chrome moulding which I have seen
  on
 one black sedan.  Black is the only color I would have.

 R
  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is it just me...yes it is
 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, January 23, 2014 4:14 pm
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

 The fins are the same as on the '57 Chevy, Caddy, etc. - pure
  cosmetic
 appeal to the masses of the time. I find them ugly and not
  functional -
 same as the swept back tails on the Cessna's starting in 1960. Hate
 them.


 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The 112, with the rounded over fins are beautiful cars. The
 110/111
   fins
 may not be endearing, but ahead of the fins, they are a beautiful
  car.
If
 you don't mind the fins, the rear view of a 220S/230S/SE is very
 attractive. The early 110s with the trapezoidal tail lights look
  like
 they are winking at you. The 200/200D/230 tail lights make a good
looking
 rear view.




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 OK Don
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 temporary
 safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
 1775
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 taxes.
 - Benjamin Franklin 1789
 2013 F150, 18 mpg
 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] I'm actually half way interested in this

2014-01-24 Thread WILTON

Yep; looks mighty interesting.
BTW, 'didn't like white at all until I had a blackun.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm actually half way interested in this



A '91 SDL, in Wilton's favorite color!
(not kidding, it isn't black)
Mitch.

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

It's either this or a 99 e300 turbo

Sent from my iPhone

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Date: January 24, 2014 at 6:12:06 PM CST
To: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
Subject: 91 Mercedes 350 SDL Turbo Diesel (update) 6500


http://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/4278045138.html



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Old Aladdin Lamp

2014-01-24 Thread WILTON
Well, I really did walk nearly 2 miles to school on freezing and/or rainy 
mornings  (no raincoat, either) from late Aug through Dec 1940; moved first 
week of Jan to 'nother house where I had to walk only 'bout a mile and wait 
in snow/rain, etc., for school bus.


Wilton

 Original Message - 
From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Old Aladdin Lamp



That kinda beats my when I was your age whine at the kids.
I do try and make out I had to walk barefoot to school in the snow but 
they don't believe me anymore.


Hendrik
who did not actually walk barefoot through the snow

On 18/01/14 14:10, WILTON wrote:
As a child before 1946 (moved to a house with electricity in Jan '46), I 
did my school homework by the light of a nickel-plated brass Aladdin 
lamp.  My sister has it now.  We still have SWMBO's family's identical 
lamp here in the house.


Wilton




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Re: [MBZ] I'm actually half way interested in this

2014-01-24 Thread WILTON

If it's legit, 'wouldn't mind driving it home from NW Arkansas.

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm actually half way interested in this



If you went to nw Arkansas I suppose, that is where they are located.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 24, 2014, at 6:24 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


It's either this or a 99 e300 turbo

Sent from my iPhone

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From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
Date: January 24, 2014 at 6:12:06 PM CST
To: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
Subject: 91 Mercedes 350 SDL Turbo Diesel (update) 6500

 http://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/4278045138.html




Is Schuler Autohaus the same clowns that put the rebuilt IP in the SDL 
I got from you?  The one that  they could not even get the the IP timing 
close to right?   The car had a schuler autohaus front license thing on 
it when I got it.  I sure would not trust them to install a long block 
unless I can find out for sure who fixed the other SDL.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Old Aladdin Lamp

2014-01-24 Thread G Mann
Hendrik, you have to get it all down right to impress the kiddies..

It's  Barefoot in the snow, 8 miles uphill both ways, after I chopped all
the wood for the house, milked the cows, fed the pigs and horses. Then I
did my homework by the old Aladdin lamp until midnight.  It builds
character mate.


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:

 That kinda beats my when I was your age whine at the kids.
 I do try and make out I had to walk barefoot to school in the snow but
 they don't believe me anymore.

 Hendrik
 who did not actually walk barefoot through the snow

 On 18/01/14 14:10, WILTON wrote:

 As a child before 1946 (moved to a house with electricity in Jan '46), I
 did my school homework by the light of a nickel-plated brass Aladdin lamp.
  My sister has it now.  We still have SWMBO's family's identical lamp here
 in the house.

 Wilton



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Aladdin Lamp presents

2014-01-24 Thread Frederick Moir
H  F.
Yup! Still in the mail.
Probably held up by your version of Homeland Insecurity. I tried to silence it, 
but the ticking is still audible to a blind white cat in a snow storm driving a 
W111.
It holds a Genie..(..us?), Aladdin y'know.
It might get there in time for your birthday, or not.
How is the man behind the curtain, down there in OZ?
 
Fred Moir 
Lynn MA 
Diesel preferred.



 From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Aladdin Lamp presents
 

So my Chrissy gift is still in the mail?

Hendrik
who is a greedy bugger

On 18/01/14 12:19, Frederick Moir wrote:
 Gee.
 That lamp sat in my basement, unloved, for 20+ years.
 Enjoy!
  
 Fred Moir
 Lynn MA
 Diesel preferred.

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