Re: [MBZ] And you thought the Classic Center was badly expensive

[Jim Cathey]

If he had a Gullwing do you seriously think he would be communicating 
with

this bunch of scrappy scruffians?


Nah, out buying snow chains for it!

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Re: [MBZ] slow day

[Gary Hurst]

i have no recollection of particulars


On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:14 AM, OK Don  wrote:

> How much of a cut did they want from your sales?
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Gary Hurst 
> wrote:
>
> > amazon once called me about selling parts there but i really hated the
> guy
> > who called so i never did it
> >
> >
>
>
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> safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
> "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
> - Benjamin Franklin 1789
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Re: [MBZ] slow day

[OK Don]

How much of a cut did they want from your sales?


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> amazon once called me about selling parts there but i really hated the guy
> who called so i never did it
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Colors - was: R107 goofiness

[G Mann]

It stands out because no living person who is not barking mad would own a
car that color.. hahaha...

Different... isn't always "pretty".


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Fmiser  wrote:

> > Randy wrote:
> >
> > Don't know what you folks have, but we don't have as many red
> > firetrucks anymore.
> > Many are a yellowy green color.
>
> That yellow-green is the color the human eye is most sensitive to.
> Also the color it can resolve the highest resolution.  It does
> stand out - doesn't it?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Colors - was: R107 goofiness

[Fmiser]

> Randy wrote:
> 
> Don't know what you folks have, but we don't have as many red
> firetrucks anymore.
> Many are a yellowy green color.

That yellow-green is the color the human eye is most sensitive to.
Also the color it can resolve the highest resolution.  It does
stand out - doesn't it?

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Re: [MBZ] slow day

[Gary Hurst]

amazon once called me about selling parts there but i really hated the guy
who called so i never did it



On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> Gary wrote:
> > also what i'd have done for you
> > if you gave me 80 bucks a year for fatty prime
>
> fatty prime
> I like it.
> You could sell parts on amazon, no?
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] You're welcome!

[clay]

I think all desk bound bureaucrats are over paid and under intelligent.

While waiting for my kid to get out of school last week I was witness to a 
Prius on VW accident.  Been on the school principal to remind parents to be 
more attentive when picking up or dropping off.  Bunch of bubble head dames 
with latte and mobile phones and no attention left for driving.   Just remind 
these wastoids to be in the moment.

Anyway, VW slowly enters intersection after checking.  School bus is barreling 
south bound on a residential street toward intersection.  VW was west bound. I 
am bracing for a disaster in my parked car facing south when  Prius blast by 
heading north.  T bones poor nanny in the VW.  I share my data with all parties 
and cops, make sure the nanny is ok and somebody will get the kids for her, 
that her parents are alerted, AAA called and cops are on the way.

I got a call the next day from her insurer, who asked if they could take my 
statement.  I gladly complied, and it was all recorded.  Good deed done.

Today, I get a call from the insurer of the punk kid in the prius, who was on 
the phone when he crashed at 30mph.  Dumb broad on the line begins questioning 
me about how I could tell how fast he was going or even see the dope in the 
prius if I was looking in my rear view mirror at the impending bus on VW 
accident.  The bus never hit,  I was at an angle in which it appeared to be 
coming faster than it was related to the VW.  I try to explain that I was 
facing the offending car as it approached, it passed right beside me, not five 
feet away, and impacted not a half second after it passed, 20 feet later.  My 
view was in no way obstructed by the minuscule rear view mirror and there was a 
whole windscreen in front of me, which provided excellent vistas.  Even with my 
attention upon the drama behind me, I was fully able to discern oncoming 
traffic from a parked car.

Dumb insurance troglodyte could not get her calcified mind around reality.  So 
I hung up on her

clay


On Feb 19, 2014, at 1:21 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

> ROFL!!  I think you have described the Washington bureaucrats attitude in one 
> sentence.
> 
> Note that I said "Washington bureaucrats"; not the thousands of government 
> workers who usually do an acceptable job in all parts of the country; often 
> under difficult conditions.
> Gerry
> 
> On 2/19/2014 12:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>> WHat rubbish.  There is no civilization outside of the Beltway.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[Dieselhead]

generic cut rate price for engine swap is $500.  I'd guess $1500 to 
swap the whole drive train with auto to manual conversion.  Parts 
extra.


No conversion/parts required.  The carcass is also a stickshift.
Correction, only parts found to be _bad_ during the transplant
are required.

My guy's out of town this month.  No quote.

-- Jim


Ok, I thought it was an auto.  a cutrate engine swap is about $500 around here.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood

[Mountain Man]

Curt wrote:
> Its merely an electric a Hus-ski or Diablo Rouge, theres nothing new under 
> the sun.
>

The neighbor has a party every year in August and they drive one of
their sleds across the small lake.  The first time we saw that I
couldn't believe what I was watching.  Have you ever seen such
madness?  Perhaps it is a sled aficionado extreme event?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] And you thought the Classic Center was badly expensive

[clay]

If I did have a 300sl out of PnP, I would have that thing in Hemming faster 
than you can stifle a sneeze.  I could retire to some fourth world banana 
republic on the windfall

clay
Who has lived in fifth world banana republics

On Feb 19, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:

> On 19/02/2014 11:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>> If he had a Gullwing do you seriously think he would be communicating with
>> this bunch of scrappy scruffians?
>> 
>> 
> If he had a Gullwing, it would likely be a "project" car hauled out of a junk 
> yard.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[clay]

YEAH!

It was a highly valued show car in unrestored condition and you were going to 
trailer it to Pebble Beach


clay

On Feb 19, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Dieselhead wrote:

>>> Are you not able to transplant the wing windows to the newer car? Do you 
>>> need a collar to swap the older wheel in place of the puffy? Not much you 
>>> can do with bumpers.
>> 
>> Not sure exactly what would be involved with transplants.  I have
>> two good wingy doors, with mirrors on both of 'em, and the steering
>> column and bumpers could move from the 'heap.  I'm hoping to get
>> a quote on an engine swap, I just don't feel like trying to do
>> that.
>> 
>> -- Jim
> 
> generic cut rate price for engine swap is $500.  I'd guess $1500 to swap the 
> whole drive train with auto to manual conversion.  Parts extra.
> 
> Ins co is obligated to make you whole.  The argument is what is "whole"   I 
> do think you can get more than 1700 out of them.
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Re: [MBZ] And you thought the Classic Center was badly expensive

[clay]

Well said.  I would be trolling sororities for co-pilots if I had a Gullwing.

clay
who has a chicken wing


On Feb 19, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

> If he had a Gullwing do you seriously think he would be communicating with
> this bunch of scrappy scruffians?
> 
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:48 PM, clay  wrote:
> 
>> I have PnP nearby.  I paid less for my SL than the price for this wheel.
>> If I did have a million  car, I would expect super high def photos for
>> any part I were looking for.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> On Feb 18, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
>> 
>>> You have a gullwing?
>>> 
>>> Hendrik
>>> who does not have wings on the car
>>> 
>>> On 19/02/14 10:44, clay wrote:
 the photos are a bit palty in size and quality.  I would not pay half
>> his price without better pix
 
 clay
 
 On Feb 17, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
 
> Take a look at this:
> 
> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Gullwing-300SL-Steering-Wheel-Brand-New-/281266746185
> 
> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[clay]

I felt the W115 in basic trim were the epitome of practicality.  Very simple to 
resolve issues, no need to head scratch and chase electronic gremlins.  As long 
as you could find vegi oil and had a hills to push start, you could get most 
anywhere.  Carry a sturdy lantern for night driving, lashed to the little child 
you lashed to the front of the car.

clay




On Feb 19, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

>> I sort of think that if it was much more basic than it is, my 76 115 would 
>> have a crank out front to start the engine.
> 
> Yours doesn't?  :-)
> 
>> wiring setup under the hood with fuses in a number of different spots
> 
> Only one fuse block in mine, except for the one I added for
> the auxiliary lights.
> 
> I don't think a car gets more basic than mine.  Manual everything.
> Crank windows, manual locks.  Its fanciest features are the light
> in the glove box, and the intermittent wipers.  Fuel gauge is electric,
> but all other instruments are mechanical.  (I did swap in a quartz
> clock.)  No AC.  Heater fan works.
> 
> I like it, the visibility and simplicity are great.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] R107 goofiness

[clay]

I fully appreciate that line of thinking.

After three red vehicles meeting the crusher for being invisible to other 
drivers, I considered there was a cosmic relationship between my being inside, 
and the car being red.   Once I was rid of the red, the incidence of 
catastrophic damage to cars dropped to below statistically significant levels.

clay


On Feb 19, 2014, at 8:22 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:

> But bear in mind that you have survived all of your accidents with red cars.
> 
> A fellow who used to teach my younger son saxaphone, had been in 2 bad 
> accidents while driving Ford SUV's.
> He swore he would never drive another and bought a Nissan Pathfinder.
> 
> I suggested to him that he might wish to remember that in both cases, he had 
> survived relatively unscathed.
> In both cases the vehicles were totally destroyed and he was fortunate to get 
> out alive.
> He had not thought of it that way. He just assumed the Fords were bad luck.
> 
> Randy
> 
> On 2/18/2014 6:36 PM, clay wrote:
>>> There is no "right" red car for me.  There is a metaphysical propensity for 
>>> red cars I drive to end up totaled.   Other vehicles just want to destroy 
>>> the trunks or pick up beds
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2014, at 10:27 PM, OK Don wrote:
>>> 
 Perhaps those were the "wrong" red cars, and this the "right" one???
 
 
 On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 10:02 PM, clay  wrote:
 
>  I did not dig deeper since I no longer buy red cars.  I tend to end up
> getting rear ended in red cars.
> 
> 
> clay
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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[Jim Cathey]

generic cut rate price for engine swap is $500.  I'd guess $1500 to 
swap the whole drive train with auto to manual conversion.  Parts 
extra.


No conversion/parts required.  The carcass is also a stickshift.
Correction, only parts found to be _bad_ during the transplant
are required.

My guy's out of town this month.  No quote.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[Jim Cathey]

Was that one of those ones where you had to be careful not to let it 
break your wrist?

no, unless you have the timing advanced too far


Yes, always.

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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[Jim Cathey]

Around here, they can only work on their own vehicle.  Have to show 
the title.


He buys carcass?  Move engine to carcass.  Sell me result.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood

[clay]

The fools that reside above the arctic circle travel by snow machine and go 
missing.  I am sure they will be found in a few millennia, preserved in muskeg 
for future archeologist.

clay

On Feb 19, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:

> The daughter of some folks we know and her boyfriend drowned in a snowmobile 
> accident in the Whiteshell Park,  years ago - around 1985, I think. They 
> found his body in the spring but did not find her body for years. That part 
> made it worse for her poor parents.  They were out at night on Valentine's 
> Day and probably got a bit lost. It is thought that they were likely one bay 
> over from where they intended to be and ran into open water. Can you imagine 
> what that must have been like?
> 
> Randy
> 
> On 18/02/2014 8:17 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>> I suppose you wouldn't let me snowmobile down the street either...
>> 
>> The big advantage of a redneck town. Sunday I was out snowmobiling for 5 
>> hours. Took off right from the house, down our dead end street about 100 
>> yards, turn right, about 200 yards down Mill street, turn left, 100 yards 
>> down Murdock street until it becomes a long driveway for a furniture 
>> factory, another 300 yards or so to the real trails. We rode all over...
>> 
>> One very scary place we accidentally crossed open water. Well it wasn't open 
>> water for the FIRST guy. He broke the ice, his girlfriend went to the right 
>> and caught mostly solid ice. The third guy hit completely open water in the 
>> center, next guy went right and caught ice under his right ski and water 
>> under the left. I went left, ice under the left ski and water under the 
>> right. It all happened so fast there was no time to avoid it without making 
>> things worse. See the water, hit the throttle and SKIP and we were across. 
>> Only maybe 15' of water... On the way back we hugged the shoreline until we 
>> could find somewhere with significant ice to cross. Fortunately I didn't 
>> have to change my shorts, couldn't stand up right away though, my butt was 
>> gripping the seat.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood

[WILTON]

My Ski-Doo was at ~50MPH, not 50 HP; don't know what the HP was.

Wilt

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To: "Diesel List" 
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Especially when you consider that in 1975 50HP was a big big machine and 3" 
made it a long travel suspension.


My '95 Ski-Doo has 90HP and 15" of rear suspension travel, 8" up front. 
Thats "only" a 670cc, they make 1000cc...


-Curt

Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 17:04:24 -0600
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On 19/02/2014 4:55 PM, WILTON wrote:

In March, '75, friend and I were snowmobiling in woods west of The
Soo, MI, on a Saturday morning. At 50 MPH, I broke out of the woods
onto an expanse of white; noticed that surface under me seemed to be
undulating slightly; suddenly realized that US Coast Guard ice breaker
200 to 300 yards in front of me was cutting a channel in Lake Superior
and that I was on the lake with 'em and the undulation I was feeling
was likely wave action. I maintained full throttle and did a skidding
180 to get back on solid ground.

Wilton


Sounds like darned fine piloting there Wilton.

Randy
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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[OK Don]

Same with my '61 MGA (you could start it with a crank), until I dropped the
Olds V8 in it, that is . . .


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>>>
> That is one thing I loved about the old 36 chevy my dad had.  If the
> battery was down, you could crank it.
>
> Same with the IH H.
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood

[Curt Raymond]

Its merely an electric a Hus-ski or Diablo Rouge, theres nothing new under the 
sun.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 18:40:17 -0500
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http://gizmodo.com/tank-powered-sledding-is-now-officially-the-best-winter-1525270987
 
one of these would be just the thing you need

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Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood car DIY - was: Washing machine must be hidden and not heard

[OK Don]

Ditto . . .


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> Andrew wrote:
> > ...you would
> > not feel comfortable house hunting in such an irderly, manicured
> community.
> >
>
> That's me.
> I could never live under HOA.
> That would be against my religion.
> mao
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[clay]

So, all you need is to make sure the check straps are good to go, and finding a 
guy with a cherry picker to drop the engine into your new body

clay

On Feb 19, 2014, at 7:36 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

>> Are you not able to transplant the wing windows to the newer car?   Do you 
>> need a collar to swap the older wheel in place of the puffy?  Not much you 
>> can do with bumpers.
> 
> Not sure exactly what would be involved with transplants.  I have
> two good wingy doors, with mirrors on both of 'em, and the steering
> column and bumpers could move from the 'heap.  I'm hoping to get
> a quote on an engine swap, I just don't feel like trying to do
> that.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[Dieselhead]

That is one thing I loved about the old 36 chevy my dad had.  If 
the battery was down, you could crank it.


Same with the IH H.

Was that one of those ones where you had to be careful not to let it 
break your wrist?


Randy

no, unless you have the timing advanced too far

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Re: [MBZ] slow day

[Mountain Man]

Gary wrote:
> also what i'd have done for you
> if you gave me 80 bucks a year for fatty prime

fatty prime
I like it.
You could sell parts on amazon, no?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] slow day

[Mountain Man]

Randy wrote:
> Going to snow again tonight and tomorrow.
> Only supposed to be another 2 to 4 inches but we have enough now.
>

The defrost is on here.
Gonna rain and flood.
Turn the polar vortex on again, please.
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] You're welcome!

[Mountain Man]

Dieselhead wrote:
> With
> any luck, it will pile a foot of fresh snow on DC and shut down the
> goobermnt again.

Goobermnt is shut down to sell-a-brate all prez.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - rocking and rolling and dogging tonight

[Mountain Man]

H&F wrote:
> Speaking of Chicago dogs...
> who had more than one dog at G&J

That's right, you did.
I forgot that fine time, good memory.
Fun time - do it again.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Stiff Washing machine from the future

[Mountain Man]

dseretakis wrote:
> And now it's in vogue to dry your clothes on a line. It's the "green" thing 
> to do.
>

For sure, yes.
Freeze dried is also quite good.
Q for H&F - does Aussie get cold enuf to freeze dry?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood

[Dwight Giles]

Attaboy
On Feb 19, 2014 5:55 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:

> In March, '75, friend and I were snowmobiling in woods west of The Soo,
> MI, on a Saturday morning.  At 50 MPH, I broke out of the woods onto an
> expanse of white; noticed that surface under me seemed to be undulating
> slightly; suddenly realized that US Coast Guard ice breaker 200 to 300
> yards in front of me was cutting a channel in Lake Superior and that I was
> on the lake with 'em and the undulation I was feeling was likely wave
> action.  I maintained full throttle and did a skidding 180 to get back on
> solid ground.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood
>
>
>  The daughter of some folks we know and her boyfriend drowned in a
>> snowmobile accident in the Whiteshell Park,  years ago - around 1985, I
>> think. They found his body in the spring but did not find her body for
>> years. That part made it worse for her poor parents.  They were out at
>> night on Valentine's Day and probably got a bit lost. It is thought that
>> they were likely one bay over from where they intended to be and ran into
>> open water. Can you imagine what that must have been like?
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> On 18/02/2014 8:17 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>>
>>> I suppose you wouldn't let me snowmobile down the street either...
>>>
>>> The big advantage of a redneck town. Sunday I was out snowmobiling for 5
>>> hours. Took off right from the house, down our dead end street about 100
>>> yards, turn right, about 200 yards down Mill street, turn left, 100 yards
>>> down Murdock street until it becomes a long driveway for a furniture
>>> factory, another 300 yards or so to the real trails. We rode all over...
>>>
>>> One very scary place we accidentally crossed open water. Well it wasn't
>>> open water for the FIRST guy. He broke the ice, his girlfriend went to the
>>> right and caught mostly solid ice. The third guy hit completely open water
>>> in the center, next guy went right and caught ice under his right ski and
>>> water under the left. I went left, ice under the left ski and water under
>>> the right. It all happened so fast there was no time to avoid it without
>>> making things worse. See the water, hit the throttle and SKIP and we were
>>> across. Only maybe 15' of water... On the way back we hugged the shoreline
>>> until we could find somewhere with significant ice to cross. Fortunately I
>>> didn't have to change my shorts, couldn't stand up right away though, my
>>> butt was gripping the seat.
>>>
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood car DIY - was: Washing machine must be hidden and not heard

[Mountain Man]

Andrew wrote:
> ...you would
> not feel comfortable house hunting in such an irderly, manicured community.
>

That's me.
I could never live under HOA.
That would be against my religion.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood

[Craig]

On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:10:09 -0700 Andrew Strasfogel
 wrote:

> That was a response to his earlier post in the same conversation.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Randy Bennell 
> wrote:
> 
> > Did I miss something here or did you reply to the wrong message?

Yes. It would help greatly if he would reply to the correct message.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood

[Curt Raymond]

Especially when you consider that in 1975 50HP was a big big machine and 3" 
made it a long travel suspension.

My '95 Ski-Doo has 90HP and 15" of rear suspension travel, 8" up front. Thats 
"only" a 670cc, they make 1000cc...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 17:04:24 -0600
From: Randy Bennell 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood
Message-ID: <53053878.3010...@bennell.ca>
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On 19/02/2014 4:55 PM, WILTON wrote:
> In March, '75, friend and I were snowmobiling in woods west of The 
> Soo, MI, on a Saturday morning.  At 50 MPH, I broke out of the woods 
> onto an expanse of white; noticed that surface under me seemed to be 
> undulating slightly; suddenly realized that US Coast Guard ice breaker 
> 200 to 300 yards in front of me was cutting a channel in Lake Superior 
> and that I was on the lake with 'em and the undulation I was feeling 
> was likely wave action.  I maintained full throttle and did a skidding 
> 180 to get back on solid ground.
>
> Wilton
>
Sounds like darned fine piloting there Wilton.

Randy
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Re: [MBZ] slow day

[Gary Hurst]

you can't be more specific than "febi", huh?


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> PAckage says Febi.  Will you stream movies for me too?  Wait, maybe Fatty
> Prime movies would not be such a good idea...
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 2/19/14 6:50 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
>
>> well, i try to get away from the whole concept of car parts are commodity
>> things, as in the game the cheapest chinese white box item always wins and
>> everyone wonders why parts that used to last 30 years now last 6 weeks
>> before they totally fail but never quite worked right anyway
>>
>> i'm happy to compare apples with apples with you.  show me what you got
>> and
>> i'll tell you what i'd have done for you.  also what i'd have done for you
>> if you gave me 80 bucks a year for fatty prime
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Rich Thomas <
>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>>
>>  My shifter bushings came today and it is nice and warm after last week's
>>> ice storm so I will probably be tackling that issue in the next coupla
>>> days.
>>>
>>> I ordered these off Amazon, my wife has Amazon Prime.  Free shipping, 2
>>> days, no taxes.  I'm not sure of the price compared to Jabba but that is
>>> pretty good service.  Febi from Amazon.  I was looking and they have lots
>>> of Benz parts.  Perhaps Jabba could discuss how for commodity things he
>>> is
>>> better or not.
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/19/14 5:35 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
>>>
>>>  Another slow day on the list.

 Need to move some snow this evening.
 Going to snow again tonight and tomorrow.
 Only supposed to be another 2 to 4 inches but we have enough now.

 Randy

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Re: [MBZ] slow day

[Rich Thomas]

PAckage says Febi.  Will you stream movies for me too?  Wait, maybe 
Fatty Prime movies would not be such a good idea...


--R


On 2/19/14 6:50 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

well, i try to get away from the whole concept of car parts are commodity
things, as in the game the cheapest chinese white box item always wins and
everyone wonders why parts that used to last 30 years now last 6 weeks
before they totally fail but never quite worked right anyway

i'm happy to compare apples with apples with you.  show me what you got and
i'll tell you what i'd have done for you.  also what i'd have done for you
if you gave me 80 bucks a year for fatty prime




On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:


My shifter bushings came today and it is nice and warm after last week's
ice storm so I will probably be tackling that issue in the next coupla days.

I ordered these off Amazon, my wife has Amazon Prime.  Free shipping, 2
days, no taxes.  I'm not sure of the price compared to Jabba but that is
pretty good service.  Febi from Amazon.  I was looking and they have lots
of Benz parts.  Perhaps Jabba could discuss how for commodity things he is
better or not.

--R



On 2/19/14 5:35 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:


Another slow day on the list.

Need to move some snow this evening.
Going to snow again tonight and tomorrow.
Only supposed to be another 2 to 4 inches but we have enough now.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] slow day

[Gary Hurst]

well, i try to get away from the whole concept of car parts are commodity
things, as in the game the cheapest chinese white box item always wins and
everyone wonders why parts that used to last 30 years now last 6 weeks
before they totally fail but never quite worked right anyway

i'm happy to compare apples with apples with you.  show me what you got and
i'll tell you what i'd have done for you.  also what i'd have done for you
if you gave me 80 bucks a year for fatty prime




On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> My shifter bushings came today and it is nice and warm after last week's
> ice storm so I will probably be tackling that issue in the next coupla days.
>
> I ordered these off Amazon, my wife has Amazon Prime.  Free shipping, 2
> days, no taxes.  I'm not sure of the price compared to Jabba but that is
> pretty good service.  Febi from Amazon.  I was looking and they have lots
> of Benz parts.  Perhaps Jabba could discuss how for commodity things he is
> better or not.
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 2/19/14 5:35 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
>
>> Another slow day on the list.
>>
>> Need to move some snow this evening.
>> Going to snow again tonight and tomorrow.
>> Only supposed to be another 2 to 4 inches but we have enough now.
>>
>> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] slow day

[Rich Thomas]

My shifter bushings came today and it is nice and warm after last week's 
ice storm so I will probably be tackling that issue in the next coupla days.


I ordered these off Amazon, my wife has Amazon Prime.  Free shipping, 2 
days, no taxes.  I'm not sure of the price compared to Jabba but that is 
pretty good service.  Febi from Amazon.  I was looking and they have 
lots of Benz parts.  Perhaps Jabba could discuss how for commodity 
things he is better or not.


--R


On 2/19/14 5:35 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

Another slow day on the list.

Need to move some snow this evening.
Going to snow again tonight and tomorrow.
Only supposed to be another 2 to 4 inches but we have enough now.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood

[Rich Thomas]

http://gizmodo.com/tank-powered-sledding-is-now-officially-the-best-winter-1525270987 
one of these would be just the thing you need


--R


On 2/19/14 5:55 PM, WILTON wrote:
In March, '75, friend and I were snowmobiling in woods west of The 
Soo, MI, on a Saturday morning.  At 50 MPH, I broke out of the woods 
onto an expanse of white; noticed that surface under me seemed to be 
undulating slightly; suddenly realized that US Coast Guard ice breaker 
200 to 300 yards in front of me was cutting a channel in Lake Superior 
and that I was on the lake with 'em and the undulation I was feeling 
was likely wave action.  I maintained full throttle and did a skidding 
180 to get back on solid ground.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood


The daughter of some folks we know and her boyfriend drowned in a 
snowmobile accident in the Whiteshell Park,  years ago - around 1985, 
I think. They found his body in the spring but did not find her body 
for years. That part made it worse for her poor parents.  They were 
out at night on Valentine's Day and probably got a bit lost. It is 
thought that they were likely one bay over from where they intended 
to be and ran into open water. Can you imagine what that must have 
been like?


Randy

On 18/02/2014 8:17 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

I suppose you wouldn't let me snowmobile down the street either...

The big advantage of a redneck town. Sunday I was out snowmobiling 
for 5 hours. Took off right from the house, down our dead end street 
about 100 yards, turn right, about 200 yards down Mill street, turn 
left, 100 yards down Murdock street until it becomes a long driveway 
for a furniture factory, another 300 yards or so to the real trails. 
We rode all over...


One very scary place we accidentally crossed open water. Well it 
wasn't open water for the FIRST guy. He broke the ice, his 
girlfriend went to the right and caught mostly solid ice. The third 
guy hit completely open water in the center, next guy went right and 
caught ice under his right ski and water under the left. I went 
left, ice under the left ski and water under the right. It all 
happened so fast there was no time to avoid it without making things 
worse. See the water, hit the throttle and SKIP and we were across. 
Only maybe 15' of water... On the way back we hugged the shoreline 
until we could find somewhere with significant ice to cross. 
Fortunately I didn't have to change my shorts, couldn't stand up 
right away though, my butt was gripping the seat.


-Curt





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Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood

[dseretakis]

We'll be driving in Gael's pagoda. You are welcome to sit in the back;)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 19, 2014, at 1:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> That was a response to his earlier post in the same conversation.
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
>> 
>> Did I miss something here or did you reply to the wrong message?
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19/02/2014 11:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>> 
>>> DImitri, I would love to drive down to Amelia Island in one of you guys'
>>> two identical tobacco brown 280 SLs.  Does either have a back seats?
>>> joking, of course. or am I?
>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Randy Bennell 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The daughter of some folks we know and her boyfriend drowned in a
 snowmobile accident in the Whiteshell Park,  years ago - around 1985, I
 think. They found his body in the spring but did not find her body for
 years. That part made it worse for her poor parents.  They were out at
 night on Valentine's Day and probably got a bit lost. It is thought that
 they were likely one bay over from where they intended to be and ran into
 open water. Can you imagine what that must have been like?
 
 Randy
 
 
 On 18/02/2014 8:17 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
 
 I suppose you wouldn't let me snowmobile down the street either...
> 
> The big advantage of a redneck town. Sunday I was out snowmobiling for 5
> hours. Took off right from the house, down our dead end street about 100
> yards, turn right, about 200 yards down Mill street, turn left, 100
> yards
> down Murdock street until it becomes a long driveway for a furniture
> factory, another 300 yards or so to the real trails. We rode all over...
> 
> One very scary place we accidentally crossed open water. Well it wasn't
> open water for the FIRST guy. He broke the ice, his girlfriend went to
> the
> right and caught mostly solid ice. The third guy hit completely open
> water
> in the center, next guy went right and caught ice under his right ski
> and
> water under the left. I went left, ice under the left ski and water
> under
> the right. It all happened so fast there was no time to avoid it without
> making things worse. See the water, hit the throttle and SKIP and we
> were
> across. Only maybe 15' of water... On the way back we hugged the
> shoreline
> until we could find somewhere with significant ice to cross.
> Fortunately I
> didn't have to change my shorts, couldn't stand up right away though, my
> butt was gripping the seat.
> 
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] You're welcome!

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

On 2/19/2014 4:21 PM, arche...@embarmail.com wrote:
ROFL!! I think you have described the Washington bureaucrats attitude 
in one sentence.


 Note that I said "Washington bureaucrats"; not the thousands of 
government workers who usually do an acceptable job in all parts of 
the country; often under difficult conditions.

Gerry

On 2/19/2014 12:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

WHat rubbish.  There is no civilization outside of the Beltway.
 I think it charming that Andrew is able to make fun of himself 
this way.  Renews my faith in the civil service system.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


 For God's sake, let us sit upon the ground
 And tell sad stories of the death of kings;


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Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood

[Randy Bennell]

On 19/02/2014 4:55 PM, WILTON wrote:
In March, '75, friend and I were snowmobiling in woods west of The 
Soo, MI, on a Saturday morning.  At 50 MPH, I broke out of the woods 
onto an expanse of white; noticed that surface under me seemed to be 
undulating slightly; suddenly realized that US Coast Guard ice breaker 
200 to 300 yards in front of me was cutting a channel in Lake Superior 
and that I was on the lake with 'em and the undulation I was feeling 
was likely wave action.  I maintained full throttle and did a skidding 
180 to get back on solid ground.


Wilton


Sounds like darned fine piloting there Wilton.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood

[WILTON]

In March, '75, friend and I were snowmobiling in woods west of The Soo, MI, 
on a Saturday morning.  At 50 MPH, I broke out of the woods onto an expanse 
of white; noticed that surface under me seemed to be undulating slightly; 
suddenly realized that US Coast Guard ice breaker 200 to 300 yards in front 
of me was cutting a channel in Lake Superior and that I was on the lake with 
'em and the undulation I was feeling was likely wave action.  I maintained 
full throttle and did a skidding 180 to get back on solid ground.


Wilton

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From: "Randy Bennell" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood


The daughter of some folks we know and her boyfriend drowned in a 
snowmobile accident in the Whiteshell Park,  years ago - around 1985, I 
think. They found his body in the spring but did not find her body for 
years. That part made it worse for her poor parents.  They were out at 
night on Valentine's Day and probably got a bit lost. It is thought that 
they were likely one bay over from where they intended to be and ran into 
open water. Can you imagine what that must have been like?


Randy

On 18/02/2014 8:17 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

I suppose you wouldn't let me snowmobile down the street either...

The big advantage of a redneck town. Sunday I was out snowmobiling for 5 
hours. Took off right from the house, down our dead end street about 100 
yards, turn right, about 200 yards down Mill street, turn left, 100 yards 
down Murdock street until it becomes a long driveway for a furniture 
factory, another 300 yards or so to the real trails. We rode all over...


One very scary place we accidentally crossed open water. Well it wasn't 
open water for the FIRST guy. He broke the ice, his girlfriend went to 
the right and caught mostly solid ice. The third guy hit completely open 
water in the center, next guy went right and caught ice under his right 
ski and water under the left. I went left, ice under the left ski and 
water under the right. It all happened so fast there was no time to avoid 
it without making things worse. See the water, hit the throttle and SKIP 
and we were across. Only maybe 15' of water... On the way back we hugged 
the shoreline until we could find somewhere with significant ice to 
cross. Fortunately I didn't have to change my shorts, couldn't stand up 
right away though, my butt was gripping the seat.


-Curt





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[MBZ] slow day

[Randy Bennell]

Another slow day on the list.

Need to move some snow this evening.
Going to snow again tonight and tomorrow.
Only supposed to be another 2 to 4 inches but we have enough now.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] You're welcome!

[arche...@embarqmail.com]

ROFL!!  I think you have described the Washington bureaucrats attitude 
in one sentence.


 Note that I said "Washington bureaucrats"; not the thousands of 
government workers who usually do an acceptable job in all parts of the 
country; often under difficult conditions.

Gerry

On 2/19/2014 12:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

WHat rubbish.  There is no civilization outside of the Beltway.







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Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood

[Andrew Strasfogel]

That was a response to his earlier post in the same conversation.

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> Did I miss something here or did you reply to the wrong message?
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 19/02/2014 11:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> DImitri, I would love to drive down to Amelia Island in one of you guys'
>> two identical tobacco brown 280 SLs.  Does either have a back seats?
>> joking, of course. or am I?
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Randy Bennell 
>> wrote:
>>
>> The daughter of some folks we know and her boyfriend drowned in a
>>> snowmobile accident in the Whiteshell Park,  years ago - around 1985, I
>>> think. They found his body in the spring but did not find her body for
>>> years. That part made it worse for her poor parents.  They were out at
>>> night on Valentine's Day and probably got a bit lost. It is thought that
>>> they were likely one bay over from where they intended to be and ran into
>>> open water. Can you imagine what that must have been like?
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18/02/2014 8:17 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>>>
>>> I suppose you wouldn't let me snowmobile down the street either...

 The big advantage of a redneck town. Sunday I was out snowmobiling for 5
 hours. Took off right from the house, down our dead end street about 100
 yards, turn right, about 200 yards down Mill street, turn left, 100
 yards
 down Murdock street until it becomes a long driveway for a furniture
 factory, another 300 yards or so to the real trails. We rode all over...

 One very scary place we accidentally crossed open water. Well it wasn't
 open water for the FIRST guy. He broke the ice, his girlfriend went to
 the
 right and caught mostly solid ice. The third guy hit completely open
 water
 in the center, next guy went right and caught ice under his right ski
 and
 water under the left. I went left, ice under the left ski and water
 under
 the right. It all happened so fast there was no time to avoid it without
 making things worse. See the water, hit the throttle and SKIP and we
 were
 across. Only maybe 15' of water... On the way back we hugged the
 shoreline
 until we could find somewhere with significant ice to cross.
 Fortunately I
 didn't have to change my shorts, couldn't stand up right away though, my
 butt was gripping the seat.

 -Curt




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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[Randy Bennell]

On 19/02/2014 11:38 AM, Dieselhead wrote:

On 19/02/2014 10:55 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
I sort of think that if it was much more basic than it is, my 76 
115 would have a crank out front to start the engine.


Yours doesn't?  :-)


wiring setup under the hood with fuses in a number of different spots


Only one fuse block in mine, except for the one I added for
the auxiliary lights.

I don't think a car gets more basic than mine.  Manual everything.
Crank windows, manual locks.  Its fanciest features are the light
in the glove box, and the intermittent wipers.  Fuel gauge is electric,
but all other instruments are mechanical.  (I did swap in a quartz
clock.)  No AC.  Heater fan works.

I like it, the visibility and simplicity are great.

-- Jim


That is one thing I loved about the old 36 chevy my dad had.  If the 
battery was down, you could crank it.


Same with the IH H.

Was that one of those ones where you had to be careful not to let it 
break your wrist?


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood

[Randy Bennell]

Did I miss something here or did you reply to the wrong message?

Randy


On 19/02/2014 11:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

DImitri, I would love to drive down to Amelia Island in one of you guys'
two identical tobacco brown 280 SLs.  Does either have a back seats?
joking, of course. or am I?
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:


The daughter of some folks we know and her boyfriend drowned in a
snowmobile accident in the Whiteshell Park,  years ago - around 1985, I
think. They found his body in the spring but did not find her body for
years. That part made it worse for her poor parents.  They were out at
night on Valentine's Day and probably got a bit lost. It is thought that
they were likely one bay over from where they intended to be and ran into
open water. Can you imagine what that must have been like?

Randy


On 18/02/2014 8:17 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:


I suppose you wouldn't let me snowmobile down the street either...

The big advantage of a redneck town. Sunday I was out snowmobiling for 5
hours. Took off right from the house, down our dead end street about 100
yards, turn right, about 200 yards down Mill street, turn left, 100 yards
down Murdock street until it becomes a long driveway for a furniture
factory, another 300 yards or so to the real trails. We rode all over...

One very scary place we accidentally crossed open water. Well it wasn't
open water for the FIRST guy. He broke the ice, his girlfriend went to the
right and caught mostly solid ice. The third guy hit completely open water
in the center, next guy went right and caught ice under his right ski and
water under the left. I went left, ice under the left ski and water under
the right. It all happened so fast there was no time to avoid it without
making things worse. See the water, hit the throttle and SKIP and we were
across. Only maybe 15' of water... On the way back we hugged the shoreline
until we could find somewhere with significant ice to cross. Fortunately I
didn't have to change my shorts, couldn't stand up right away though, my
butt was gripping the seat.

-Curt








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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[Dieselhead]

On 19/02/2014 10:55 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
I sort of think that if it was much more basic than it is, my 76 
115 would have a crank out front to start the engine.


Yours doesn't?  :-)


wiring setup under the hood with fuses in a number of different spots


Only one fuse block in mine, except for the one I added for
the auxiliary lights.

I don't think a car gets more basic than mine.  Manual everything.
Crank windows, manual locks.  Its fanciest features are the light
in the glove box, and the intermittent wipers.  Fuel gauge is electric,
but all other instruments are mechanical.  (I did swap in a quartz
clock.)  No AC.  Heater fan works.

I like it, the visibility and simplicity are great.

-- Jim


That is one thing I loved about the old 36 chevy my dad had.  If the 
battery was down, you could crank it.


Same with the IH H.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood

[Andrew Strasfogel]

DImitri, I would love to drive down to Amelia Island in one of you guys'
two identical tobacco brown 280 SLs.  Does either have a back seats?
joking, of course. or am I?
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> The daughter of some folks we know and her boyfriend drowned in a
> snowmobile accident in the Whiteshell Park,  years ago - around 1985, I
> think. They found his body in the spring but did not find her body for
> years. That part made it worse for her poor parents.  They were out at
> night on Valentine's Day and probably got a bit lost. It is thought that
> they were likely one bay over from where they intended to be and ran into
> open water. Can you imagine what that must have been like?
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 18/02/2014 8:17 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>
>> I suppose you wouldn't let me snowmobile down the street either...
>>
>> The big advantage of a redneck town. Sunday I was out snowmobiling for 5
>> hours. Took off right from the house, down our dead end street about 100
>> yards, turn right, about 200 yards down Mill street, turn left, 100 yards
>> down Murdock street until it becomes a long driveway for a furniture
>> factory, another 300 yards or so to the real trails. We rode all over...
>>
>> One very scary place we accidentally crossed open water. Well it wasn't
>> open water for the FIRST guy. He broke the ice, his girlfriend went to the
>> right and caught mostly solid ice. The third guy hit completely open water
>> in the center, next guy went right and caught ice under his right ski and
>> water under the left. I went left, ice under the left ski and water under
>> the right. It all happened so fast there was no time to avoid it without
>> making things worse. See the water, hit the throttle and SKIP and we were
>> across. Only maybe 15' of water... On the way back we hugged the shoreline
>> until we could find somewhere with significant ice to cross. Fortunately I
>> didn't have to change my shorts, couldn't stand up right away though, my
>> butt was gripping the seat.
>>
>> -Curt
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] You're welcome!

[Andrew Strasfogel]

WHat rubbish.  There is no civilization outside of the Beltway.



On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> the next blizzard is supposed to hit here Thursday, so it should hit the
> east coast/NE about Saturday.
>
> I have not heard if it supposed to hit the northerly regions, or DC. With
> any luck, it will pile a foot of fresh snow on DC and shut down the
> goobermnt again.   I love how they think it is the end of civilization, and
> nobody in the rest of the country notices or cares that the gooberment is
> not operating.
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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[Randy Bennell]

On 19/02/2014 11:24 AM, Dieselhead wrote:
Do you have any auto tech at the local high school or community 
college?  Maybe you could find some guys there to do it as a project 
or something?


That'd be worth a look.

-- Jim


Around here, they can only work on their own vehicle.  Have to show 
the title.





Probably an insurance issue.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] And you thought the Classic Center was badly expensive

[Randy Bennell]

On 19/02/2014 11:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

If he had a Gullwing do you seriously think he would be communicating with
this bunch of scrappy scruffians?


If he had a Gullwing, it would likely be a "project" car hauled out of a 
junk yard.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[Dieselhead]

Are you not able to transplant the wing windows to the newer car? 
Do you need a collar to swap the older wheel in place of the puffy? 
Not much you can do with bumpers.


Not sure exactly what would be involved with transplants.  I have
two good wingy doors, with mirrors on both of 'em, and the steering
column and bumpers could move from the 'heap.  I'm hoping to get
a quote on an engine swap, I just don't feel like trying to do
that.

-- Jim


generic cut rate price for engine swap is $500.  I'd guess $1500 to 
swap the whole drive train with auto to manual conversion.  Parts 
extra.


Ins co is obligated to make you whole.  The argument is what is 
"whole"   I do think you can get more than 1700 out of them.


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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[Dieselhead]

Do you have any auto tech at the local high school or community 
college?  Maybe you could find some guys there to do it as a 
project or something?


That'd be worth a look.

-- Jim


Around here, they can only work on their own vehicle.  Have to show the title.

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Re: [MBZ] And you thought the Classic Center was badly expensive

[Andrew Strasfogel]

If he had a Gullwing do you seriously think he would be communicating with
this bunch of scrappy scruffians?

On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:48 PM, clay  wrote:

> I have PnP nearby.  I paid less for my SL than the price for this wheel.
>  If I did have a million  car, I would expect super high def photos for
> any part I were looking for.
>
> clay
>
> On Feb 18, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
>
> > You have a gullwing?
> >
> > Hendrik
> > who does not have wings on the car
> >
> > On 19/02/14 10:44, clay wrote:
> >> the photos are a bit palty in size and quality.  I would not pay half
> his price without better pix
> >>
> >> clay
> >>
> >> On Feb 17, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
> >>
> >>> Take a look at this:
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Gullwing-300SL-Steering-Wheel-Brand-New-/281266746185
> >>>
> >>> Dan
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[Randy Bennell]

On 19/02/2014 10:55 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
I sort of think that if it was much more basic than it is, my 76 115 
would have a crank out front to start the engine.


Yours doesn't?  :-)


wiring setup under the hood with fuses in a number of different spots


Only one fuse block in mine, except for the one I added for
the auxiliary lights.

I don't think a car gets more basic than mine.  Manual everything.
Crank windows, manual locks.  Its fanciest features are the light
in the glove box, and the intermittent wipers.  Fuel gauge is electric,
but all other instruments are mechanical.  (I did swap in a quartz
clock.)  No AC.  Heater fan works.

I like it, the visibility and simplicity are great.

-- Jim




And it is pretty comfortable too for an old vehicle.

I had, for a long time, a 1968 Chevy C10 pickup truck.
No power steering or brakes.
No radio.
No power windows or locks.
292 inline 6.
The only "modern comfort" was an AT and it was a powerglide.

It was very basic and I kept it for something like 24 years.
It was a backup vehicle when I needed to work on a daily driver and it 
was there to haul stuff when I was not driving a truck as a daily driver.


But it was a bit of a bear to drive in the city without power steering.
It was noisy on the highway at speed. No aerodynamics I guess.
The seating position was not optimal. The cabs on the older trucks are 
not as big as the newer ones.
I replaced the seat with one from a newer truck as the original had 
broken springs and upholstery that was destroyed when I got the truck.
It was 17 years old when I bought it in the spring of 1985. The seat was 
maybe a bit deeper as it left no room for adjustment. I am only 5'8" so 
it worked for me but when my 6'3" son wanted to drive it, I did not 
think it safe for him as his knees were on either side of the wheel.


And, did I mention the fuel economy or lack thereof?

I only drove it about 13K miles in 24 years so it was ok and I still 
miss it somewhat but it was not nearly as nice to drive as the old MB is.


The one thing that I miss with the MB is the remote locking. I may try 
to install something (a previous posting on this issue was only a week 
or two back if I recall) as I dislike having to use the key in the door 
lock everytime.


Randy




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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[Jim Cathey]

I sort of think that if it was much more basic than it is, my 76 115 
would have a crank out front to start the engine.


Yours doesn't?  :-)


wiring setup under the hood with fuses in a number of different spots


Only one fuse block in mine, except for the one I added for
the auxiliary lights.

I don't think a car gets more basic than mine.  Manual everything.
Crank windows, manual locks.  Its fanciest features are the light
in the glove box, and the intermittent wipers.  Fuel gauge is electric,
but all other instruments are mechanical.  (I did swap in a quartz
clock.)  No AC.  Heater fan works.

I like it, the visibility and simplicity are great.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[Randy Bennell]

On 19/02/2014 9:59 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

If possible, it would be nice to fix the 200. The more modern W115s just don't 
have the appeal of yours.



I don't know about that statement.
I sort of think that if it was much more basic than it is, my 76 115 
would have a crank out front to start the engine.
Despite the fact that it has things like power windows, it is pretty 
archaic.
For example, the wiring setup under the hood with fuses in a number of 
different spots strikes me as "old".
They added a few things on the 115 over the years but do not appear to 
have revised much prior to tossing it in favour of the 123.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] R107 goofiness

[Randy Bennell]

But bear in mind that you have survived all of your accidents with red cars.

A fellow who used to teach my younger son saxaphone, had been in 2 bad 
accidents while driving Ford SUV's.

He swore he would never drive another and bought a Nissan Pathfinder.

I suggested to him that he might wish to remember that in both cases, he 
had survived relatively unscathed.
In both cases the vehicles were totally destroyed and he was fortunate 
to get out alive.

He had not thought of it that way. He just assumed the Fords were bad luck.

Randy

On 2/18/2014 6:36 PM, clay wrote:
There is no "right" red car for me.  There is a metaphysical 
propensity for red cars I drive to end up totaled.   Other vehicles 
just want to destroy the trunks or pick up beds


clay


On Feb 16, 2014, at 10:27 PM, OK Don wrote:


Perhaps those were the "wrong" red cars, and this the "right" one???


On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 10:02 PM, clay  wrote:

  I did not dig deeper since I no longer buy red cars.  I tend to 
end up

getting rear ended in red cars.


clay







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Re: [MBZ] R107 goofiness

[Randy Bennell]

Except during snow storms.

Don't know what you folks have, but we don't have as many red firetrucks 
anymore.

Many are a yellowy green color.

Randy

On 18/02/2014 9:04 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
A study done several years ago found that white was the most easily 
seen color and red was one of least easily seen colors.  Paint your 
cars white and they won't get smacked as often.

Gerry

On 2/18/2014 6:36 PM, clay wrote:
There is no "right" red car for me.  There is a metaphysical 
propensity for red cars I drive to end up totaled.   Other vehicles 
just want to destroy the trunks or pick up beds


clay


On Feb 16, 2014, at 10:27 PM, OK Don wrote:


Perhaps those were the "wrong" red cars, and this the "right" one???


On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 10:02 PM, clay  wrote:

  I did not dig deeper since I no longer buy red cars.  I tend to 
end up

getting rear ended in red cars.


clay




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OK Don
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
"in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and 
taxes."

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Re: [MBZ] OT: neighborhood

[Randy Bennell]

The daughter of some folks we know and her boyfriend drowned in a 
snowmobile accident in the Whiteshell Park,  years ago - around 1985, I 
think. They found his body in the spring but did not find her body for 
years. That part made it worse for her poor parents.  They were out at 
night on Valentine's Day and probably got a bit lost. It is thought that 
they were likely one bay over from where they intended to be and ran 
into open water. Can you imagine what that must have been like?


Randy

On 18/02/2014 8:17 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

I suppose you wouldn't let me snowmobile down the street either...

The big advantage of a redneck town. Sunday I was out snowmobiling for 5 hours. 
Took off right from the house, down our dead end street about 100 yards, turn 
right, about 200 yards down Mill street, turn left, 100 yards down Murdock 
street until it becomes a long driveway for a furniture factory, another 300 
yards or so to the real trails. We rode all over...

One very scary place we accidentally crossed open water. Well it wasn't open 
water for the FIRST guy. He broke the ice, his girlfriend went to the right and 
caught mostly solid ice. The third guy hit completely open water in the center, 
next guy went right and caught ice under his right ski and water under the 
left. I went left, ice under the left ski and water under the right. It all 
happened so fast there was no time to avoid it without making things worse. See 
the water, hit the throttle and SKIP and we were across. Only maybe 15' of 
water... On the way back we hugged the shoreline until we could find somewhere 
with significant ice to cross. Fortunately I didn't have to change my shorts, 
couldn't stand up right away though, my butt was gripping the seat.

-Curt





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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[dseretakis]

If possible, it would be nice to fix the 200. The more modern W115s just don't 
have the appeal of yours.

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On Feb 19, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

>> Do you have any auto tech at the local high school or community college?  
>> Maybe you could find some guys there to do it as a project or something?
> 
> That'd be worth a look.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[Jim Cathey]

Do you have any auto tech at the local high school or community 
college?  Maybe you could find some guys there to do it as a project 
or something?


That'd be worth a look.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?

[Jim Cathey]

Are you not able to transplant the wing windows to the newer car?   Do 
you need a collar to swap the older wheel in place of the puffy?  Not 
much you can do with bumpers.


Not sure exactly what would be involved with transplants.  I have
two good wingy doors, with mirrors on both of 'em, and the steering
column and bumpers could move from the 'heap.  I'm hoping to get
a quote on an engine swap, I just don't feel like trying to do
that.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Aussie Aussie Aussieland

[Dan Penoff]

True. Most come from Mintabie or Lightning Ridge, but I found the best sellers 
in Coober Pedy.  Plus it was a good opportunity to get out in the rough.

Dan

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> On Feb 19, 2014, at 12:52 AM, Hendrik and Fay  wrote:
> 
> Coober Pedy is not known for black opals.
> 
> Hendrik
> who is no expert when it comes to opals
> 
>> On 19/02/14 14:13, Dan Penoff wrote:
>> Hey, I wanted some black opals to take home to the missus, so I went to the 
>> source.
>> 
>> Not exactly the best part of AussieLand, but a fun place to visit for a 
>> little "rough and tumble".
>> 
>> Dan
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