Re: [MBZ] OT - ish Tranz Flush too.
Fred, based on my experiences I would say you are well on your way to healing the magic elixir. On Jul 27, 2014 4:49 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote: Dwight. I drove the car to Concord MA today and it shifted as it should, so, some improvement already. When the oil looks cleaner I may well change over to M1 ATF. Fred Moir. Lynn MA. Diesel preferred. Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:23:05 -0400 To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com CC: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - ish Tranz Flush too. From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Well that seems like the safe thing to do. I am doing what you advised for the CD. Running M1 with new filter. On Jul 26, 2014 10:51 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Alles.Trying to guess the right answer was eine fahr in die blaue.So I will perform a few more oil changes with filter and see what happens.Klatta on! Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT:home speakers
Anybody willing to drive to Rhode Island for some nice 1990s stereo speakers ought to take a look at this for $70. http://vi.vipr.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4item=261545481717 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] How To Make A Used Mercedes Sound Like A Pagani Zonda
Step 1: Acquire Mercedes S600, SL600, or CL600. http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/how-to-make-a-used-mercedes-sound-like-a-pagani-zonda-1611782156/+travis --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - a mess
A sprayer would have done that job in no time with no mess. --R On 7/27/14 6:36 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: The rental house that I was working on several months ago sold last week, and the money's in the bank! Y'all may remember that I had a bit of a problem painting the ceilings at first because of the stippling (not popcorn) coming off onto the roller. Several of you made great suggestions, which I do appreciate but none of which I followed. I quickly learned that I could paint it, anyway, by keeping roller wet and not rolling it back and forth - don't make more than one repeat pass until the surface has dried. After a coat of paint has dried on it, I could easily roll paint it at will. Try not to make ANY repeat pass while it's wet; can repeat lightly if it's done immediately, before the paint soaks though to the mating surface and causes the stippling to separate from the ceiling. I was able to camouflage/re-stipple small areas where I had lost stippling by putting globs of caulking on end of a broomstick and touching it to the ceiling. I can tell the difference, but I know where to look. Owned the house for 34 years; had one tenant for 33 years. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Moderator????? [This time to the list as well!]
I always turn to Jabba for my spiritual advice. He is the Ernest Angley of Mercedes. Benz parts, Bilsteins, and spiritual advice, a winning combination! --R On 7/27/14 7:25 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: all these problems would be solved by me being a mod . after all, i am the only spiritual godfather this list has ever had ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT:home speakers
Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Anybody willing to drive to Rhode Island for some nice 1990s stereo speakers ought to take a look at this for $70. Sorry, bad link. They were listed at 125, no bids, then 110, then 100, 95, 90, and now $70. Looks like the seller is desperate to get rid of them. http://search.ebay.com/261545481717 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT:home speakers
Good deal. I have a pair of 400s that flank my 60 plasma TV and I love them. With a good subwoofer that make a really nice system for movie watching. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 28, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Anybody willing to drive to Rhode Island for some nice 1990s stereo speakers ought to take a look at this for $70. Sorry, bad link. They were listed at 125, no bids, then 110, then 100, 95, 90, and now $70. Looks like the seller is desperate to get rid of them. http://search.ebay.com/261545481717 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Moderator????? [This time to the list as well!]
That explains a lot of things right there. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 28, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I always turn to Jabba for my spiritual advice. He is the Ernest Angley of Mercedes. Benz parts, Bilsteins, and spiritual advice, a winning combination! --R On 7/27/14 7:25 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: all these problems would be solved by me being a mod . after all, i am the only spiritual godfather this list has ever had ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT:home speakers
If local pickup worked for me I'd be all over them. But, 2700 miles is a bit far. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Moderator????? [This time to the list as well!]
that's because you are a sensible young man! On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I always turn to Jabba for my spiritual advice. He is the Ernest Angley of Mercedes. Benz parts, Bilsteins, and spiritual advice, a winning combination! --R On 7/27/14 7:25 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: all these problems would be solved by me being a mod . after all, i am the only spiritual godfather this list has ever had ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT:home speakers
i insulted some guys from rhode island yesterday, one of whom used to pitch for the red sox On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Anybody willing to drive to Rhode Island for some nice 1990s stereo speakers ought to take a look at this for $70. Sorry, bad link. They were listed at 125, no bids, then 110, then 100, 95, 90, and now $70. Looks like the seller is desperate to get rid of them. http://search.ebay.com/261545481717 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT:home speakers
I'm sure they are devastated at your smitation. --R On 7/28/14 11:25 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: i insulted some guys from rhode island yesterday, one of whom used to pitch for the red sox On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Anybody willing to drive to Rhode Island for some nice 1990s stereo speakers ought to take a look at this for $70. Sorry, bad link. They were listed at 125, no bids, then 110, then 100, 95, 90, and now $70. Looks like the seller is desperate to get rid of them. http://search.ebay.com/261545481717 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!
Hi Tom, The COMAND system in that car was a bit outdated even in 2007, but is still reliable and stable. And, a huge advantage: Becker Autosound can service and repair the components at a reasonable price. I think the high end logic7 sound system is outstanding as well. Updated maps are still available for the Navi and it works well. Get the phone system and you can get a BT cradle that works with modern phones. Overall, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a car with one. Jaime On Sunday, July 27, 2014, Tom Savage tesav...@gmail.com wrote: Jaime, I need help, too! I have my eye on a low mileage Okie E320 Bluetec, 2007. I have paid zero attention to the goings on of the electronics/Comand/nav systems of the newer cars. Is there anything to be concerned about or is the system solid? What about upgradability? Thanks, Tom It turns out 140s do rust, after all -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!
i bought my navigation system at the gay thrift shop. it's pretty nice and used to be on a ship. it's brass and was in a wood box but i took it out of the box On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Hi Tom, The COMAND system in that car was a bit outdated even in 2007, but is still reliable and stable. And, a huge advantage: Becker Autosound can service and repair the components at a reasonable price. I think the high end logic7 sound system is outstanding as well. Updated maps are still available for the Navi and it works well. Get the phone system and you can get a BT cradle that works with modern phones. Overall, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a car with one. Jaime On Sunday, July 27, 2014, Tom Savage tesav...@gmail.com wrote: Jaime, I need help, too! I have my eye on a low mileage Okie E320 Bluetec, 2007. I have paid zero attention to the goings on of the electronics/Comand/nav systems of the newer cars. Is there anything to be concerned about or is the system solid? What about upgradability? Thanks, Tom It turns out 140s do rust, after all -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!
When we went to Michigan last month I bought a new navigation system at our local sporting goods store. Its put out by National Geographic and has pressed wood fibers between two plastic layers. I like the plastic layers for protecting the wood fibers. Its large but thin, kind of like a serving tray and fits nicely between the seat and the center console. It covers all of North America which makes for fun browsing as you drive. We did use my phone momentarily in Niagara Falls on the return trip, I wasn't sure where the hotel was as it was a different hotel than the outbound ride but the rest of the trip was all with a paper map... -Curt From: Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help! i bought my navigation system at the gay thrift shop. it's pretty nice and used to be on a ship. it's brass and was in a wood box but i took it out of the box On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Hi Tom, The COMAND system in that car was a bit outdated even in 2007, but is still reliable and stable. And, a huge advantage: Becker Autosound can service and repair the components at a reasonable price. I think the high end logic7 sound system is outstanding as well. Updated maps are still available for the Navi and it works well. Get the phone system and you can get a BT cradle that works with modern phones. Overall, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a car with one. Jaime On Sunday, July 27, 2014, Tom Savage tesav...@gmail.com wrote: Jaime, I need help, too! I have my eye on a low mileage Okie E320 Bluetec, 2007. I have paid zero attention to the goings on of the electronics/Comand/nav systems of the newer cars. Is there anything to be concerned about or is the system solid? What about upgradability? Thanks, Tom It turns out 140s do rust, after all -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!
Amazing! Paper still works. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help! When we went to Michigan last month I bought a new navigation system at our local sporting goods store. Its put out by National Geographic and has pressed wood fibers between two plastic layers. I like the plastic layers for protecting the wood fibers. Its large but thin, kind of like a serving tray and fits nicely between the seat and the center console. It covers all of North America which makes for fun browsing as you drive. We did use my phone momentarily in Niagara Falls on the return trip, I wasn't sure where the hotel was as it was a different hotel than the outbound ride but the rest of the trip was all with a paper map... -Curt From: Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help! i bought my navigation system at the gay thrift shop. it's pretty nice and used to be on a ship. it's brass and was in a wood box but i took it out of the box On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Hi Tom, The COMAND system in that car was a bit outdated even in 2007, but is still reliable and stable. And, a huge advantage: Becker Autosound can service and repair the components at a reasonable price. I think the high end logic7 sound system is outstanding as well. Updated maps are still available for the Navi and it works well. Get the phone system and you can get a BT cradle that works with modern phones. Overall, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a car with one. Jaime On Sunday, July 27, 2014, Tom Savage tesav...@gmail.com wrote: Jaime, I need help, too! I have my eye on a low mileage Okie E320 Bluetec, 2007. I have paid zero attention to the goings on of the electronics/Comand/nav systems of the newer cars. Is there anything to be concerned about or is the system solid? What about upgradability? Thanks, Tom It turns out 140s do rust, after all -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OK Don
What did you figure out with your internet? Did you go with Sat or what? If/when we close on this ranch and move way out in the country, I will have to look at other alternatives again since Uverse or the like is not available out there. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OK Don
We are using ATLink WIFI - they have towers in Edmond and Guthrie. It's line-of-site WIFI to an antenna on the hangar roof. Are you close to Nowata, or on the other side of the airport? Something like ATLink might be a possibility - it's less expensive than satellite. On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What did you figure out with your internet? Did you go with Sat or what? If/when we close on this ranch and move way out in the country, I will have to look at other alternatives again since Uverse or the like is not available out there. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OK Don
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[MBZ] For All You GMail Users
Read this: http://fieldguide.gizmodo.com/how-to-use-the-infinite-number-of-email-addresses-gmail-1609458192 Cool. I didn't know a lot of this... Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Moderator????? [This time to the list as well!]
Who the Hell is Ernest Angley? On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: that's because you are a sensible young man! On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I always turn to Jabba for my spiritual advice. He is the Ernest Angley of Mercedes. Benz parts, Bilsteins, and spiritual advice, a winning combination! --R On 7/27/14 7:25 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: all these problems would be solved by me being a mod . after all, i am the only spiritual godfather this list has ever had ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Moderator????? [This time to the list as well!]
Ernest Ainsley, maybe, televangelist? With mucho toupee? Wilt - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Moderator? [This time to the list as well!] Who the Hell is Ernest Angley? On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: that's because you are a sensible young man! On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I always turn to Jabba for my spiritual advice. He is the Ernest Angley of Mercedes. Benz parts, Bilsteins, and spiritual advice, a winning combination! --R On 7/27/14 7:25 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: all these problems would be solved by me being a mod . after all, i am the only spiritual godfather this list has ever had ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Moderator????? [This time to the list as well!]
No it was Angley http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Angley And he has a nice ride http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/akron-canton-news/jet-belonging-to-evangelist-ernest-angley-makes-hard-landing-at-akron-canton-airport Apparently he is in his 90s and still casting out the evvvi sprits that inhabit the bodies of the faithful. Can you say bayabee? Bab-beeeng! It's a meeercull! We used to watch this guy on TV late Saturday nights in college doing his faith healing thing, The people would come up, tell him their ailment, he would cast out the demons and then whack them in the head, knocking them backwards and proclaim them healed. People had a variety of things, arthritis, heart troubles, deafness, cancer, etc etc. One night we are watching and this guy comes up, explains he has liver cancer or something, Ernest does his thing, O eevil speeerits of arthritis that inhabit this body, I command thee to LEAVE then whacked the guy in the forehead, he falls backwards and is caught by the helpers behind who stand him up and shuffle him off, all the while you can hear him saying, But I have cancer not arthritis! I have often wondered if that guy made it, or blamed Ernest for his fate. He was a hoot to watch, but it looks like a lot of people still buy into him, esp with that nice plane. Whatever floats yer boat I guess. You can probably find some vids of his antics on the interwebs. And yeah, he had the most awful toupee, elevator shoes, horrible suits and ties. --R On 7/28/14 4:18 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: Ernest Ainsley, maybe, televangelist? With mucho toupee? Wilt - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Moderator? [This time to the list as well!] Who the Hell is Ernest Angley? On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: that's because you are a sensible young man! On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I always turn to Jabba for my spiritual advice. He is the Ernest Angley of Mercedes. Benz parts, Bilsteins, and spiritual advice, a winning combination! --R On 7/27/14 7:25 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: all these problems would be solved by me being a mod . after all, i am the only spiritual godfather this list has ever had ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT:home speakers
They are in the town where I live. Don't need them. not sure about packing shipping unless I took them to pack ship place. On Jul 28, 2014 11:10 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If local pickup worked for me I'd be all over them. But, 2700 miles is a bit far. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Moderator????? [This time to the list as well!]
We used to watch him for the entertainment value as well - just the healing part - his evangelizing was pretty boring. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:15 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No it was Angley http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Angley And he has a nice ride http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/akron-canton-news/jet-belonging-to-evangelist-ernest-angley-makes-hard-landing-at-akron-canton-airport Apparently he is in his 90s and still casting out the evvvi sprits that inhabit the bodies of the faithful. Can you say bayabee? Bab-beeeng! It's a meeercull! We used to watch this guy on TV late Saturday nights in college doing his faith healing thing, The people would come up, tell him their ailment, he would cast out the demons and then whack them in the head, knocking them backwards and proclaim them healed. People had a variety of things, arthritis, heart troubles, deafness, cancer, etc etc. One night we are watching and this guy comes up, explains he has liver cancer or something, Ernest does his thing, O eevil speeerits of arthritis that inhabit this body, I command thee to LEAVE then whacked the guy in the forehead, he falls backwards and is caught by the helpers behind who stand him up and shuffle him off, all the while you can hear him saying, But I have cancer not arthritis! I have often wondered if that guy made it, or blamed Ernest for his fate. He was a hoot to watch, but it looks like a lot of people still buy into him, esp with that nice plane. Whatever floats yer boat I guess. You can probably find some vids of his antics on the interwebs. And yeah, he had the most awful toupee, elevator shoes, horrible suits and ties. --R On 7/28/14 4:18 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: Ernest Ainsley, maybe, televangelist? With mucho toupee? Wilt - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Today's cheap home brew Find
After that long in the game, the equipment has long paid for itself. The bottles are exceedingly easy to source from places like Freecycle or the local recycle bins. I prefer Grolsch type rubber seal bottles, but the larger martinelli cider bottles are good for capping and gifting. Given the retail prices of craft beers, there is huge cost savings in brewing your own. I am not in the mood to drop $4-16 for a 22oz craft swill. I can whip something like that up, five gallons at a time and fill racks with great beer for under $1.50 a bottle. All top shelf ingredients and free labor. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 27, 2014, at 5:16 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Lol, I've been home brewing for a couple decades now. You can indeed make decent beer at much less cost that the main line brews bought at the liquor store, and you can make things that were once unobtainable. In the last twenty years, the quality of microbrewery beer has increased quite a bit, but I still don't like super hoppy beer, so I make the stuff I do like, such as the recent Honey Blonde Ale that is getting rave reviews -- with honey from my own hives to boot. It's a great hobby, and not all that expensive once you get the basic gear. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?
Lies, mischaracterizations, obfuscation and deceit. That is how cars are sold. SWMBA wants to drive the AlCan to get to her new abode. The korean sedan will not meet her needs, so she decided a used Rav4 would. No research was done on her part and she blithely wanders into a few places she found a suitable example from CL. I had bothered to bone up on the cars and kept my mouth shut except when it got thick and silly. We wasted a weekend test driving the things and having mouth breathers bloviate about the wonderful deals they would make her. I told her it was her decision, as I would not be driving the thing. Last Friday, after I had to field calls from sales critters (she did not want to divulge her corporate #), I told her to check back with the persistent feller at the toy oda shop. Most of the places she looked were selling auction cars and marked up stickers. They thought the cars were pooped out by the almighty himself and would not negotiate or get close to her price. The guy at the toad lot got the sweetest deal by having the car be CPO, dropped closest to her price, and then negotiations hit a bump. No more room they said. She is texting me at work to get my take. I tell her to pit the three shops with the cars she likes against each other. Call one shop while at the desk waiting for the critter to get back from chatting up his manager. Pull up other listings while she waits. Get up and get a cup of tea and snack, then walk outside for fresh air. An hour later, the rock bottom price they can offer is stated. No wiggle room for them, and still not making her happy. I tell her to make them sweeten the pot with goodies, like weather beater carpet covers, and tchotkes that really will cost them nothing, but would make her feel she got a deal. Now she wants me to fully detail her sedan. That is not going to happen. I told her to spend the cash for a shop to do it, because I need to spend at least that much to get supplies stocked to do the job right. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 27, 2014, at 6:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Trip #3 to try out new trucks took us to a Mazda dealership that had a 2010 Chevy Silverado and 2010 Ford 150. We decided we liked the Ford better but it was a crew cab (and $28k). We don't need a crew cab full size so we decided to go over to the Ford dealer who actually persuaded us that it made more sense to look at a new truck than used. We drove a 2014 F150 STX access cab, which is I guess pretty much the base model, cloth seats, rubber floor mat, 5.0l v8. Its still pretty fancy, 6spd auto, satellite radio, AC blows ice cold :) 4wd with electronic locking rear diff. Sat down to do the numbers, they're giving a base price of $36,600 and the first deal came down to $30,000 which with taxes and fees is something like $33k. That includes $500 for our ranger plus something like $2,000 in loyalty money. I decided we couldn't pay that much and he came back with Well what would close the deal today? So I said $25,000. They came back with $28,000. We left saying we still wanted to try the Dodge. I expect they'll call this week at least to thank us for going in but I'm wondering if they'll except my offer. They tried to tell us that when the 2015s come out (with the new aluminum body panels) that the 2014s will get scarce and they'll stop the incentives. That seems to not make sense to me, surely the 2014s get cheaper. This is my first time looking at new and I feel like I'm flailing in the dark... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?
There is always September. The really new stuff will be arriving and these guys need to make room.They shuffle the old stuff to lesser dealers around the area (small town guys) or have to store it on some far off lot. It is not making them cash sitting on the tarmac. Or, you get the d'heads like my local MB dealer, who do not give a rip about actually serving the customers, because there are enough chinese folks rolling in the door for fresh silver stars. Club member wanted to use the Costco buying program for his new car. Local shop told him to pound sand, so he went to a dealer 100 miles away, who gladly made the sale. All manner of incentives to boot. MBCA loyalty, costco, and some other bargain he nailed down. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 27, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: Curt keep your BS detector turned on. My brother spent 30 years in car business. It is a game. Don't budge. It is near end of month they need to meet quota. When they calln tell them you have checked can no longer offer 25 but you could see paying 23. That will keep them on their toes. You'd be amazed at margins. On Jul 27, 2014 9:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Trip #3 to try out new trucks took us to a Mazda dealership that had a 2010 Chevy Silverado and 2010 Ford 150. We decided we liked the Ford better but it was a crew cab (and $28k). We don't need a crew cab full size so we decided to go over to the Ford dealer who actually persuaded us that it made more sense to look at a new truck than used. We drove a 2014 F150 STX access cab, which is I guess pretty much the base model, cloth seats, rubber floor mat, 5.0l v8. Its still pretty fancy, 6spd auto, satellite radio, AC blows ice cold :) 4wd with electronic locking rear diff. Sat down to do the numbers, they're giving a base price of $36,600 and the first deal came down to $30,000 which with taxes and fees is something like $33k. That includes $500 for our ranger plus something like $2,000 in loyalty money. I decided we couldn't pay that much and he came back with Well what would close the deal today? So I said $25,000. They came back with $28,000. We left saying we still wanted to try the Dodge. I expect they'll call this week at least to thank us for going in but I'm wondering if they'll except my offer. They tried to tell us that when the 2015s come out (with the new aluminum body panels) that the 2014s will get scarce and they'll stop the incentives. That seems to not make sense to me, surely the 2014s get cheaper. This is my first time looking at new and I feel like I'm flailing in the dark... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?
So is this effort your part in getting her to be gone? --R On 7/28/14 7:04 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: Lies, mischaracterizations, obfuscation and deceit. That is how cars are sold. SWMBA wants to drive the AlCan to get to her new abode. The korean sedan will not meet her needs, so she decided a used Rav4 would. No research was done on her part and she blithely wanders into a few places she found a suitable example from CL. I had bothered to bone up on the cars and kept my mouth shut except when it got thick and silly. We wasted a weekend test driving the things and having mouth breathers bloviate about the wonderful deals they would make her. I told her it was her decision, as I would not be driving the thing. Last Friday, after I had to field calls from sales critters (she did not want to divulge her corporate #), I told her to check back with the persistent feller at the toy oda shop. Most of the places she looked were selling auction cars and marked up stickers. They thought the cars were pooped out by the almighty himself and would not negotiate or get close to her price. The guy at the toad lot got the sweetest deal by having the car be CPO, dropped closest to her price, and then negotiations hit a bump. No more room they said. She is texting me at work to get my take. I tell her to pit the three shops with the cars she likes against each other. Call one shop while at the desk waiting for the critter to get back from chatting up his manager. Pull up other listings while she waits. Get up and get a cup of tea and snack, then walk outside for fresh air. An hour later, the rock bottom price they can offer is stated. No wiggle room for them, and still not making her happy. I tell her to make them sweeten the pot with goodies, like weather beater carpet covers, and tchotkes that really will cost them nothing, but would make her feel she got a deal. Now she wants me to fully detail her sedan. That is not going to happen. I told her to spend the cash for a shop to do it, because I need to spend at least that much to get supplies stocked to do the job right. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 27, 2014, at 6:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Trip #3 to try out new trucks took us to a Mazda dealership that had a 2010 Chevy Silverado and 2010 Ford 150. We decided we liked the Ford better but it was a crew cab (and $28k). We don't need a crew cab full size so we decided to go over to the Ford dealer who actually persuaded us that it made more sense to look at a new truck than used. We drove a 2014 F150 STX access cab, which is I guess pretty much the base model, cloth seats, rubber floor mat, 5.0l v8. Its still pretty fancy, 6spd auto, satellite radio, AC blows ice cold :) 4wd with electronic locking rear diff. Sat down to do the numbers, they're giving a base price of $36,600 and the first deal came down to $30,000 which with taxes and fees is something like $33k. That includes $500 for our ranger plus something like $2,000 in loyalty money. I decided we couldn't pay that much and he came back with Well what would close the deal today? So I said $25,000. They came back with $28,000. We left saying we still wanted to try the Dodge. I expect they'll call this week at least to thank us for going in but I'm wondering if they'll except my offer. They tried to tell us that when the 2015s come out (with the new aluminum body panels) that the 2014s will get scarce and they'll stop the incentives. That seems to not make sense to me, surely the 2014s get cheaper. This is my first time looking at new and I feel like I'm flailing in the dark... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?
If she's interested in a RAV4, would she drive a RENDEZVOUS CXL AWD? 10 year olds typically go for less than 5k around here with as new leather interiors. http://flint.craigslist.org/cto/4589318799.html Or, how about a Saab Trailblazer? http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/4529025017.html http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/4573640539.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?
Toyota seems the least likely to deal. Used sellers of Toyotas seem to think that every time they've farted in the seats its raised the price $1000. I was unhappy at the Ford dealership at first, it was the old school come in and lets talk about things. Where what we really wanted was to drive some trucks but in the end it worked out as we realized that we could probably end up with a better deal on a brand new truck than a used one. I think spending $25,000 and running it for 15 years will make more sense than spending $10,000 every 5 years. -Curt From: clay redgh...@comcast.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? Lies, mischaracterizations, obfuscation and deceit. That is how cars are sold. SWMBA wants to drive the AlCan to get to her new abode. The korean sedan will not meet her needs, so she decided a used Rav4 would. No research was done on her part and she blithely wanders into a few places she found a suitable example from CL. I had bothered to bone up on the cars and kept my mouth shut except when it got thick and silly. We wasted a weekend test driving the things and having mouth breathers bloviate about the wonderful deals they would make her. I told her it was her decision, as I would not be driving the thing. Last Friday, after I had to field calls from sales critters (she did not want to divulge her corporate #), I told her to check back with the persistent feller at the toy oda shop. Most of the places she looked were selling auction cars and marked up stickers. They thought the cars were pooped out by the almighty himself and would not negotiate or get close to her price. The guy at the toad lot got the sweetest deal by having the car be CPO, dropped closest to her price, and then negotiations hit a bump. No more room they said. She is texting me at work to get my take. I tell her to pit the three shops with the cars she likes against each other. Call one shop while at the desk waiting for the critter to get back from chatting up his manager. Pull up other listings while she waits. Get up and get a cup of tea and snack, then walk outside for fresh air. An hour later, the rock bottom price they can offer is stated. No wiggle room for them, and still not making her happy. I tell her to make them sweeten the pot with goodies, like weather beater carpet covers, and tchotkes that really will cost them nothing, but would make her feel she got a deal. Now she wants me to fully detail her sedan. That is not going to happen. I told her to spend the cash for a shop to do it, because I need to spend at least that much to get supplies stocked to do the job right. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?
It is Osama crap for cars that has made a mess of the business. The old cars got destroyed, so used car volume crashed. The new cars sold at that time were tin boxes, not cars you really wanted to hang onto. The dealers were begging folks to buy, since there was almost no business to be had. SWMBA got her korean car at the end of the season. It had come up from PDX, to a lesser dealer here, and they were trying to push it at near new car pricing. I think we got them to toss in all manner of goodies, extend the warrantee, and cut the price by $8.5k. Five years of service was part of the deal, so it has only ever been to the dealer for care. About the only out of pocket was fuel, a better battery and tires. And wipers. Trying to find valid pricing for the model now is crazy. Low miles, like hers, are going for top blue book. Probably best time to dump it, as it is still under warrantee, has all records, and the economy is getting ready to tick along again clay On Jul 27, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Used truck prices are stupid right now. 4 years old you're looking at $20-24k, for $4,000 more I can buy brand new. Toyota is the worst, 8 years old is $16-18k. I think few people were buying new from say 2008 to about 2012 so there just isn't that much inventory in used trucks. When I bought my Dakota there were a bunch of used trucks, same when I bought my Ranger. Now every dealership has a few but not that many. Curt From: Allan Streib via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com writes: They tried to tell us that when the 2015s come out (with the new aluminum body panels) that the 2014s will get scarce and they'll stop the incentives. That seems to not make sense to me, surely the 2014s get cheaper. This is my first time looking at new and I feel like I'm flailing in the dark... BS. Last year's models ALWAYS get discounted when the new year models come out. Dealers do not make money hanging on to last year's inventory. I would recommend buying used from a private seller. Dealers do this every day and they know every trick for getting you to pay more than you intended to. Watch out for dealers masquerading as private sellers. Or maybe look at a place like CarMax. I wouldn't trust them either but people I've talked to are happy with them. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?
The buy it new and run it into the ground can make sense if you're carrying the paper for 0% or paying cash. That's about the only way you can amortize the depreciation and break even or possibly come out ahead in my book. The wife's 2005 Mazda 6s will be ten years old next year. It's got 133k on it and is still worth about $5k as a private party sale. We paid around $22k for it in 2005 and carried the paper for four years at something stupidly low, like 1%. Repairs over its life have been around $2600 so far, not including maintenance. I'm thinking we've gotten our money's worth out of the car. Next year it's either a new car for her at 0% or a late model used car. it will all depend on the bank rates at the time. You're probably even better off when you consider the resale of a Ford truck. You've seen what the used ones bring, so you already know it will hold its value for a long, long time. Have you considered the Internet blast approach? Pick out a number of dealers in the area online, give them the specs on the truck you want, and let them give you a quote. They're a lot more aggressive this way, as they know you're not screwing around. You want to be sure they know you're shopping everyone and that they get one and only one shot. You alos don't have to mess with the game playing that way, too. Dan On Jul 28, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Toyota seems the least likely to deal. Used sellers of Toyotas seem to think that every time they've farted in the seats its raised the price $1000. I was unhappy at the Ford dealership at first, it was the old school come in and lets talk about things. Where what we really wanted was to drive some trucks but in the end it worked out as we realized that we could probably end up with a better deal on a brand new truck than a used one. I think spending $25,000 and running it for 15 years will make more sense than spending $10,000 every 5 years. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?
The local indy dealers are banking on sub prime loans they originate themselves to the wetbacks. They can not get banks to cover the loans, so hold the paper themselves and have usurious rates, so everybody qualifies. Pepe Jimenez makes jacked up payments on his truck, and, if he defaults, the car is repossessed and back on the lot or to the consignment auction. clay On Jul 27, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Original Message From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 8:59 PM To: Allan Streib; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? Used truck prices are stupid right now. 4 years old you're looking at $20-24k, for $4,000 more I can buy brand new. I read recently that what happened with sub prime mortgages in the 2000's is happening now with used auto loans. Sub prime loans to people who won't be able to pay them back, driving the used car prices through the roof. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How To Make A Used Mercedes Sound Like A Pagani Zonda
The SL600 I was looking at over the weekend sold for $11k at auction clay On Jul 28, 2014, at 7:13 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: Step 1: Acquire Mercedes S600, SL600, or CL600. http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/how-to-make-a-used-mercedes-sound-like-a-pagani-zonda-1611782156/+travis --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How To Make A Used Mercedes Sound Like A Pagani Zonda
From what I recall it had fairly low miles for the year, didn't it? That's a bit high, but not unrealistic. A lot depends on the market. They get stupid money for them down here, but I'll bet they bring far less north of the Mason-Dixon Line, especially the later it gets in the year. Nobody wants a convertible when winter is coming... Dan On Jul 28, 2014, at 7:35 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The SL600 I was looking at over the weekend sold for $11k at auction clay On Jul 28, 2014, at 7:13 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: Step 1: Acquire Mercedes S600, SL600, or CL600. http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/how-to-make-a-used-mercedes-sound-like-a-pagani-zonda-1611782156/+travis --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Have you considered the Internet blast approach? Pick out a number of dealers in the area online, give them the specs on the truck you want, and let them give you a quote. They're a lot more aggressive this way, as they know you're not screwing around. You want to be sure they know you're shopping everyone and that they get one and only one shot. You alos don't have to mess with the game playing that way, too. http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance/1001920/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly?
One reason I hold onto my rides. I can not see buying a newer model with lower build quality, when I can use a fraction of the cash to keep what I have on the road. The yoda guys took the car on trade, so it was pretty much 2/3 the sale price to acquire. The infiniti, acura, and bmw shops had paid wholesale and spruced the cars up. No wiggle room and they farmed out the repairs/updates. The CPO will transfer to the AK dealer if need arises, where the other shops stood behind their cars, as long as they were on the lot. I think the detailing costs were so high due to the flatulance embedded in the seats. It comes out of leather easier than fabric clay On Jul 28, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Toyota seems the least likely to deal. Used sellers of Toyotas seem to think that every time they've farted in the seats its raised the price $1000. I was unhappy at the Ford dealership at first, it was the old school come in and lets talk about things. Where what we really wanted was to drive some trucks but in the end it worked out as we realized that we could probably end up with a better deal on a brand new truck than a used one. I think spending $25,000 and running it for 15 years will make more sense than spending $10,000 every 5 years. -Curt From: clay redgh...@comcast.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How is this game played exactly? Lies, mischaracterizations, obfuscation and deceit. That is how cars are sold. SWMBA wants to drive the AlCan to get to her new abode. The korean sedan will not meet her needs, so she decided a used Rav4 would. No research was done on her part and she blithely wanders into a few places she found a suitable example from CL. I had bothered to bone up on the cars and kept my mouth shut except when it got thick and silly. We wasted a weekend test driving the things and having mouth breathers bloviate about the wonderful deals they would make her. I told her it was her decision, as I would not be driving the thing. Last Friday, after I had to field calls from sales critters (she did not want to divulge her corporate #), I told her to check back with the persistent feller at the toy oda shop. Most of the places she looked were selling auction cars and marked up stickers. They thought the cars were pooped out by the almighty himself and would not negotiate or get close to her price. The guy at the toad lot got the sweetest deal by having the car be CPO, dropped closest to her price, and then negotiations hit a bump. No more room they said. She is texting me at work to get my take. I tell her to pit the three shops with the cars she likes against each other. Call one shop while at the desk waiting for the critter to get back from chatting up his manager. Pull up other listings while she waits. Get up and get a cup of tea and snack, then walk outside for fresh air. An hour later, the rock bottom price they can offer is stated. No wiggle room for them, and still not making her happy. I tell her to make them sweeten the pot with goodies, like weather beater carpet covers, and tchotkes that really will cost them nothing, but would make her feel she got a deal. Now she wants me to fully detail her sedan. That is not going to happen. I told her to spend the cash for a shop to do it, because I need to spend at least that much to get supplies stocked to do the job right. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test e0azyhep
On 7/28/2014 7:10 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: test ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] How To Make A Used Mercedes Sound Like A Pagani Zonda
It had 45k on the clock, some broken plastic bits inside, and dubs with maybe 45% rubber. No view of the soft top, as the hard top remained on. Folks pay stupid money here, just because it has a star. Large aspirational market with ethiopians, mexicans, africans, and jihadis wanting bling cars. If there was the chance it would enhance malehood, the thing sold close to high book if not over. Boring sedans and suv were hard to get above half book. Crown Vic interceptors were selling all day long for under $1800 be they three or ten years old. clay On Jul 28, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: From what I recall it had fairly low miles for the year, didn't it? That's a bit high, but not unrealistic. A lot depends on the market. They get stupid money for them down here, but I'll bet they bring far less north of the Mason-Dixon Line, especially the later it gets in the year. Nobody wants a convertible when winter is coming... Dan On Jul 28, 2014, at 7:35 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The SL600 I was looking at over the weekend sold for $11k at auction clay On Jul 28, 2014, at 7:13 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: Step 1: Acquire Mercedes S600, SL600, or CL600. http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/how-to-make-a-used-mercedes-sound-like-a-pagani-zonda-1611782156/+travis --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] This One's For Wilt
Bombs away! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c-vJ9gVJm0 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!
On Jul 28, 2014 10:52 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes We did use my phone momentarily in Niagara Falls on the return trip, I wasn't sure where the hotel was as it was a different hotel than the outbound ride but the rest of the trip was all with a paper map... -Curt Of course I'd prefer to stick with my phone which is more or less always up to date and my trusty 1999 Rand McNally (probably due for an update), but the car comes with nav and it takes up a lot of prominent real estate on the dash. Need to know I can expect to use it for the duration even though by time I'll be done with the car it will look as quaint as an in-dash 8 track player does today. Kids these days sure get a kick out of the tape deck in the 140. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] This One's For Wilt
Yep. 'Looks familiar. 'Course, I never saw 'em from THAT perspective, and when I released conventional munitions (Vietnam), 108 at a time fell away toward the target usually 35,000 to 37,000 feet below. 'Released on Vinh, N. Vietnam from 49,500 feet one night during a typhoon in Nov '72. Wilt - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 8:45 PM Subject: [MBZ] This One's For Wilt Bombs away! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c-vJ9gVJm0 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] This One's For Wilt
Since these would have been conventional bombs at the time, which sort of accuracy could you expect from that altitude? ...or did it matter? Dan On Jul 28, 2014, at 9:43 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep. 'Looks familiar. 'Course, I never saw 'em from THAT perspective, and when I released conventional munitions (Vietnam), 108 at a time fell away toward the target usually 35,000 to 37,000 feet below. 'Released on Vinh, N. Vietnam from 49,500 feet one night during a typhoon in Nov '72. Wilt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test e0azyhep
Since it looks like Kaleb is too busy to adjust the filters on the Mercedes List; (or he might not want to since they may be related to other type problems for other members); I'll be signing off the list for a while. If I don't get back on the list, many thanks to all who have helped me with diagnosis, repair, and friendship. Gerry ... On 7/28/2014 7:50 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: On 7/28/2014 7:10 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: test ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] This One's For Wilt
Mostly Mark 82's - 500-pounders; occasionally, a mix of 500-pounders and 750-pounders. 200 to 1000 feet. 'Looks a bull's eye (a shack) was scored in that video. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This One's For Wilt Since these would have been conventional bombs at the time, which sort of accuracy could you expect from that altitude? ...or did it matter? Dan On Jul 28, 2014, at 9:43 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep. 'Looks familiar. 'Course, I never saw 'em from THAT perspective, and when I released conventional munitions (Vietnam), 108 at a time fell away toward the target usually 35,000 to 37,000 feet below. 'Released on Vinh, N. Vietnam from 49,500 feet one night during a typhoon in Nov '72. Wilt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test e0azyhep
There are no filters that I am going to adjust. They have already been adjusted. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:48 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Since it looks like Kaleb is too busy to adjust the filters on the Mercedes List; (or he might not want to since they may be related to other type problems for other members); I'll be signing off the list for a while. If I don't get back on the list, many thanks to all who have helped me with diagnosis, repair, and friendship. Gerry ... On 7/28/2014 7:50 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: On 7/28/2014 7:10 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: test ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Jaime! A Poor Widow Needs Help!
I have the original window sticker from my recently acquired 2006 E320 CDI. It shows a Comand system including harmon/kardon Logic7 surround sound with a 6 CD changer and DVD navigation. The Command system along with a glass sun -roof, powered rear window shade, and heated front seats cost the PO $2950. It also has a $500 Sirius Satellite, which I’ve never activated. The sound system is awesome. It puts out something like 430 watts to more speakers than I can find. And the tuner gets great reception in spite of the antenna being embedded in the back window. But the navigation system is lame. My circa 2008 Garmin Nuvi runs rings around it. This Comand unit can only navigate to a street or road. There seems to be no way to key in a house number. Makes it worse than useless in communities where there are multiple roads with the same name but each has different ranges of house numbers. I think the navigation system can be updated by inserting a new DVD in the trunk-mounted unit. But I have never seen an update newer than 2008. And that update costs about 2X or 3X the price of a new Garmin. It’s reassuring to hear the Comand is robust. If it goes bad many readouts on the dash would quit working. Even the analog clock in the dash is controlled by the navigation system. Ned Kleinhenz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
