Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: Left Handed Pistols

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 4, 2017 at 10:41 PM Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> SA/DA?

I think he meant DA/SA. 

Revolvers were Single Action (pull the hammer back to cock, then pull the 
trigger to fire), then some are Double Action (pull the trigger to cock and 
fire, or pull the hammer back first to get a light trigger pull like a Single 
Action). 

The Double Action revolver got its name from the fact that there are two ways 
to use it, but somewhere along the line people thought DA meant 'trigger 
cocking', and the nomenclature got butchered a bit in regard to pistols. 

Pistols are Single Action (work the slide or thumb the hammer to cock, then a 
light short trigger pull to fire), or Double Action, which people call DA/SA, 
you can fire the first shot by trigger cocking from a hammer down position, 
then the slide cocks the hammer automatically for successive shots. 
There's also Double Action Only, which means it has a single means of operating 
the action, pull the trigger through a long heavy stroke to cock it on the 
first shot and every following shot. Some of the striker fired pistols (named 
for a sliding striker instead of a swinging hammer) cock the striker part of 
the way automatically, then you finish the job by pulling the trigger, we call 
them double action but the trigger pull is shorter and lighter than a double 
action hammer operated pistol. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: Left Handed Pistols

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

SA  single action (co lt 1873)  fire

DA dual action   cock and fire


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Re: [MBZ] paint repair question

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 4, 2017 at 4:58 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Lacquer thinner is pretty aggressive stuff.  I don’t like to use it on modern 
> finishes myself.  

It's the universal paint cleaner at the body shop I go to. 
Had some yardman's paint pencil on the outside of the fender I bought for my 
ML350. 30 seconds with the lacquer thinner and it was gone. 
That reminds me, I need to wash and wax the ML, especially that fender.

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Re: [MBZ] Mandarins, wuz: no Ingles

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Locally in Iowa?

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:00 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> we buy the locally grown satsumas.   If you don't know what they are, look
> up Satsuma, AL
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> December 4, 2017 at 12:52 PM
>> I love Mandarin oranges, even though they may be seedy. They are available
>> at Great Wall in the DMV area.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] paint repair question

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Steel wool with 16 zeroes.  Softer than a baby's bottom.

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 4:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Lacquer thinner is pretty aggressive stuff.  I don’t like to use it on
> modern finishes myself.  My go-to after warm soapy water and/or a
> fingernail is 3M Adhesive Remover, but that’s not something a lot of folks
> have sitting around.  It’s probably as aggressive as lacquer thinner, but
> it’s been tested on modern finishes.
>
> Steel wool??  Yikes!  You might as well put a grinding wheel to it,
> especially if it’s got a clear coat.
>
> -D/Martha
>
> > On Dec 4, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On December 4, 2017 at 12:36 PM Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Start out light then move up to more aggressive products as necessary.
> >>
> >> Try your bug and tar remover first, then polish, then rubbing compound
> if necessary.
> >
> > I was thinking bug and tar remover, then lacquer thinner, then
> polishing/rubbing compounds.
> >
> > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: Left Handed Pistols

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 22:36:39 -0500 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I have a CZ-85 which is an ambidextrous version of the CZ-75.  The
> CZ-75 is an older, full-size, all metal, SA/DA hammer design;

SA/DA?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: Left Handed Pistols

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I have a CZ-85 which is an ambidextrous version of the CZ-75.  The CZ-75 is an 
older, full-size, all metal, SA/DA hammer design;  but I like it.  I also have 
a Ruger P95m which is pretty ambi, except for the slide release, also an older 
full size hammer design but with a plastic frame.  I'm sure there are many 
newer plastic striker-fired models that are lefty or ambi, but I haven't been 
following them.

> -Original Message-
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> Knoble via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 10:37 PM
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> Cc: Rick Knoble 
> Subject: [MBZ] WAY OT: Left Handed Pistols
> 
> Does anyone have any recommendations for pistols for lefties (handed, not
> political) or ambidextrous folks?
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: Left Handed Pistols

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

My Walther PPQ is considered to be ambidextrous.  The only thing that’s unique 
to one side is the magazine release button which can be easily reversed for a 
lefty for just that reason.

-D


> On Dec 4, 2017, at 9:13 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> FNH builds theirs equipped for ambidextrous use... They are not "economy"
> pistols however... outstanding form, fit, & function.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Most of the german ones are ambidextrous
>> 
>> Most revolvers are too.
>> 
>> Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>> December 3, 2017 at 9:37 PM
>>> Does anyone have any recommendations for pistols for lefties (handed, not
>>> political) or ambidextrous folks?
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: Left Handed Pistols

[G Mann via Mercedes]

FNH builds theirs equipped for ambidextrous use... They are not "economy"
pistols however... outstanding form, fit, & function.

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Most of the german ones are ambidextrous
>
> Most revolvers are too.
>
> Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>> December 3, 2017 at 9:37 PM
>> Does anyone have any recommendations for pistols for lefties (handed, not
>> political) or ambidextrous folks?
>>
>> Rick
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Key Holder W124

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

There seemed to be different quality of replacement key heads.  The 
first ones I got from Q were junk.   The later ones were good, and the 
ones for cars I still have are still in service.  Some had a slot, and 
you just slid the key in.  Others had a cover, so you slid the key in 
and then snapped the cover over the slot.



Ed Booher via Mercedes 
December 4, 2017 at 2:07 PM
Gently heat the rubber key holder to make it flexible and hopefully just a
micrometer larger. Stick key in freezer to hopefully make it a micrometer
smaller. Well, ok, stick the key in the freezer the night before, but
still. Then slowly work it into the seat.



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Re: [MBZ] Right rear outside axle boot

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I’ll take it. In case max can’t find his.  I’m sure I’ll need another in the 
future. 
Thanks. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Dec 4, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> If Max can’t find his boot I’ve got a generic one that may fit if you want 
> it.  I bought it when I had the 300SEL because one of its boots was in bad 
> shape and I was looking for a cheap fix.  Never made it on the car.
> 
> Let me know - it’s yours (or anyone else’s for that matter) for the cost of 
> shipping.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Max. I’m interested. Please let me know. Mine has a hole in it. 
>> Thanks 
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I may have "NOS" OE boot for you.  Back in about 2002 or so, I ordered a
>>> set from MB for my 1985 123.190.  Then I read the service manual, and found
>>> that I needed the special tool to re-assemble the can, shelved the parts
>>> and bought a used axle on the advice of Marshall Booth.  There used to be
>>> an independent shop in town that had the special tool, but the price they
>>> quoted me was far higher than the cost of the used axle.
>>> 
>>> I'll take a look later this week and let you know if I can find it.
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Any thoughts on where to order a quality right rear outside axle boot for
 my 85 300D?
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Right rear outside axle boot

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I have shop that can do it. Independent. They have done it for me in the past. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Dec 4, 2017, at 3:48 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> How are you going to install it?
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 04/12/2017 2:46 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote:
>> Thanks Max. I’m interested. Please let me know. Mine has a hole in it.
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I may have "NOS" OE boot for you.  Back in about 2002 or so, I ordered a
>>> set from MB for my 1985 123.190.  Then I read the service manual, and found
>>> that I needed the special tool to re-assemble the can, shelved the parts
>>> and bought a used axle on the advice of Marshall Booth.  There used to be
>>> an independent shop in town that had the special tool, but the price they
>>> quoted me was far higher than the cost of the used axle.
>>> 
>>> I'll take a look later this week and let you know if I can find it.
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Any thoughts on where to order a quality right rear outside axle boot for
 my 85 300D?
 
 
 
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[MBZ] Mandarins, wuz: no Ingles

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

we buy the locally grown satsumas.   If you don't know what they are, 
look up Satsuma, AL



Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
December 4, 2017 at 12:52 PM
I love Mandarin oranges, even though they may be seedy. They are available
at Great Wall in the DMV area.



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Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: Left Handed Pistols

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Most of the german ones are ambidextrous

Most revolvers are too.


Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
December 3, 2017 at 9:37 PM
Does anyone have any recommendations for pistols for lefties (handed, 
not political) or ambidextrous folks?


Rick


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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

yeah,  that's why it took a cop here 16 shots to "end the threat to him" 
from an unarmed drugged up kid that just ran his dad's pickup into a tree.



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
December 3, 2017 at 5:06 PM
I've probably told this story before but...Years ago we used to shoot 
a lot of metallic silhouette, I was never that good but the juniors 
class had mostly casual shooters so I did pretty well.One time the 
police were using our range during our normal practice time. We waited 
around to see if they'd quit before it got too dark for us to shoot. 
They were shooting man sized metallic targets from 10 meters and 
hitting about 3 in 10. We were shooting targets about the size of a 
dinner plate at 1000 meters and when I was doing well I could do 4 in 
10 with an open sight pistol.
One of the guys commented that he "heard a long more bangs than 
dings", metallic targets ring when you hit them. The cop retorted 
"Think you can do better?" my friend replies "he can" and points at 
me, the 15 year old idiot kid. The cop gives me one of their guns to 
shoot but I want to do it at 100 meters. So they all pull back and I 
proceed to put 8 shots into the target (the first two were finding the 
elevation) and the cops throw us off the range for "being unsafe".We 
joked for years that we were "unsafe for the police ego."
I don't really have a lot of respect for the average LEO's ability to 
shoot.

-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Well we certainly have crooked persecutors running loose at the highest 
levels of the DOJ.  Some of those guys are so incredibly dirty, it is 
unbelievable.  The dud that brought down arthur Anderson comes to mind.  
I was never a fan of old arthur, but where does Arthur go to get his 
reputation and business back?





Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
December 3, 2017 at 12:06 PM

It's usually due to criminal malfeasance of prosecutors and/or cops.
I think some cops are crooked and most prosecutors are crooked. And 
many judges used to be crooked prosecutors. Greg might have another 
view of that subject.


In this famous case local to me, a crooked prosecutor instructed a cop 
to re-do a video analysis timeline so that it no longer proved 
innocence. But how a lack of proof of innocence resulted in conviction 
is indeed a question for the judge and jury. The prosecutor was fired, 
not prosecuted for suborning of perjury. The perjuring cop is 
comfortably enjoying his pension in Pennsylvania.

And I think poor Claude finally learned that you never talk to cops.
http://justicedenied.org/issue/issue_42/michigan_jd42.pdf


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Re: [MBZ] Nostalgia

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

That's a great story!You should send a message to "resident" and 
congratulate hum for good taste!



Fred Moir via Mercedes 
December 3, 2017 at 12:04 PM
In my dotage, I thought that a Google Earth look at my last UK abode 
would be interesting.


I found "our" cottage in Henley-on Thames and Lo! and Behold! the 
current owner is a Mercedes driver!


I left 50 years ago and at that time the "Fair MIle" was mostly 
tree-less, not so anymore.


Lots more houses too.

The delete key is bottom left.

Fred the Ancient Mumbler.


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.


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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Agreed, but there ARE many cases when the guilt is clearly established.  
Chuckie manson comes to mind.  Not worth the cost to keep alive one 
year, much less all the years we paid to keep that piece of crap breathing.



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
December 3, 2017 at 11:57 AM
The, to me obvious, problem with the death penalty is the frequency 
with which honest people are locked up for crimes they didn't commit. 
Poor quality defense, bad judges and sometimes just bad luck. Put 
those people to death and there's blood on somebody's hands...


Curt



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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

All true, Herr Mann.   Stuff like this leads to more severe punishment 
IF the goobers react.  If they don't react, then it leads to vigilante 
actions.





G Mann via Mercedes 
December 3, 2017 at 11:34 AM
Under the "Inviolate Rule of Unintended Consequence" the actions of this
illegal criminal, and the reactions of the California legal system, will
cause a strong wave of public reaction which evolves into an end result
which will be, in full and lasting effect, much more harsh than currently
imagined by the illegal population and those who believe they are
supporting it.

Regardless of the individual Citizens position, we are already seeing
strong emotions expressed... and evidence those emotions will continue to
actions.
My Prophet robes are at the cleaners this week, so I can not predict
exactly how far the pendulum will swing... or it's final direction... but
it has started swinging..
​
At this point, the only certainty is, the Judge is not a Mercedes owner.



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Re: [MBZ] Right rear outside axle boot

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Special more flexible boot that the same company makes (of course!)

-D

> On Dec 4, 2017, at 6:18 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does that tool work with a stock boot or is it a special, more flexible boot?
> 
> RB
> 
> On 04/12/2017 4:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> That’s why I asked if he knew anyone with the expander tool.  These are 
>> pretty much in vogue and used by a lot of shops due to the ease in which you 
>> can replace a boot:
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEKY0uFlBpc
>> 
>> Otherwise it’s a major PITA.
>> 
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>  
>>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 5:41 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How would he install it?
>>> My recollection is that there is no easy way to replace these boots.
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 
>>> On 04/12/2017 4:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 If Max can’t find his boot I’ve got a generic one that may fit if you want 
 it.  I bought it when I had the 300SEL because one of its boots was in bad 
 shape and I was looking for a cheap fix.  Never made it on the car.
 
 Let me know - it’s yours (or anyone else’s for that matter) for the cost 
 of shipping.
 
 -D
 
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Re: [MBZ] Right rear outside axle boot

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Does that tool work with a stock boot or is it a special, more flexible 
boot?


RB

On 04/12/2017 4:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That’s why I asked if he knew anyone with the expander tool.  These are pretty 
much in vogue and used by a lot of shops due to the ease in which you can 
replace a boot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEKY0uFlBpc

Otherwise it’s a major PITA.


-D

  

On Dec 4, 2017, at 5:41 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
wrote:

How would he install it?
My recollection is that there is no easy way to replace these boots.

RB

On 04/12/2017 4:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

If Max can’t find his boot I’ve got a generic one that may fit if you want it.  
I bought it when I had the 300SEL because one of its boots was in bad shape and 
I was looking for a cheap fix.  Never made it on the car.

Let me know - it’s yours (or anyone else’s for that matter) for the cost of 
shipping.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Right rear outside axle boot

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s why I asked if he knew anyone with the expander tool.  These are pretty 
much in vogue and used by a lot of shops due to the ease in which you can 
replace a boot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEKY0uFlBpc

Otherwise it’s a major PITA.


-D

 
> On Dec 4, 2017, at 5:41 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> How would he install it?
> My recollection is that there is no easy way to replace these boots.
> 
> RB
> 
> On 04/12/2017 4:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> If Max can’t find his boot I’ve got a generic one that may fit if you want 
>> it.  I bought it when I had the 300SEL because one of its boots was in bad 
>> shape and I was looking for a cheap fix.  Never made it on the car.
>> 
>> Let me know - it’s yours (or anyone else’s for that matter) for the cost of 
>> shipping.
>> 
>> -D
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] Right rear outside axle boot

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

How would he install it?
My recollection is that there is no easy way to replace these boots.

RB

On 04/12/2017 4:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

If Max can’t find his boot I’ve got a generic one that may fit if you want it.  
I bought it when I had the 300SEL because one of its boots was in bad shape and 
I was looking for a cheap fix.  Never made it on the car.

Let me know - it’s yours (or anyone else’s for that matter) for the cost of 
shipping.

-D

  

On Dec 4, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes  
wrote:

Thanks Max. I’m interested. Please let me know. Mine has a hole in it.
Thanks

Michael E. Esh



On Dec 4, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
wrote:

I may have "NOS" OE boot for you.  Back in about 2002 or so, I ordered a
set from MB for my 1985 123.190.  Then I read the service manual, and found
that I needed the special tool to re-assemble the can, shelved the parts
and bought a used axle on the advice of Marshall Booth.  There used to be
an independent shop in town that had the special tool, but the price they
quoted me was far higher than the cost of the used axle.

I'll take a look later this week and let you know if I can find it.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Any thoughts on where to order a quality right rear outside axle boot for
my 85 300D?






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Re: [MBZ] Right rear outside axle boot

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If Max can’t find his boot I’ve got a generic one that may fit if you want it.  
I bought it when I had the 300SEL because one of its boots was in bad shape and 
I was looking for a cheap fix.  Never made it on the car.

Let me know - it’s yours (or anyone else’s for that matter) for the cost of 
shipping.

-D

 
> On Dec 4, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Max. I’m interested. Please let me know. Mine has a hole in it. 
> Thanks 
> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I may have "NOS" OE boot for you.  Back in about 2002 or so, I ordered a
>> set from MB for my 1985 123.190.  Then I read the service manual, and found
>> that I needed the special tool to re-assemble the can, shelved the parts
>> and bought a used axle on the advice of Marshall Booth.  There used to be
>> an independent shop in town that had the special tool, but the price they
>> quoted me was far higher than the cost of the used axle.
>> 
>> I'll take a look later this week and let you know if I can find it.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Any thoughts on where to order a quality right rear outside axle boot for
>>> my 85 300D?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] paint repair question

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Lacquer thinner is pretty aggressive stuff.  I don’t like to use it on modern 
finishes myself.  My go-to after warm soapy water and/or a fingernail is 3M 
Adhesive Remover, but that’s not something a lot of folks have sitting around.  
It’s probably as aggressive as lacquer thinner, but it’s been tested on modern 
finishes.

Steel wool??  Yikes!  You might as well put a grinding wheel to it, especially 
if it’s got a clear coat.

-D/Martha

> On Dec 4, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On December 4, 2017 at 12:36 PM Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Start out light then move up to more aggressive products as necessary.
>> 
>> Try your bug and tar remover first, then polish, then rubbing compound if 
>> necessary.
> 
> I was thinking bug and tar remover, then lacquer thinner, then 
> polishing/rubbing compounds. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] paint repair question

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> On December 4, 2017 at 12:36 PM Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Start out light then move up to more aggressive products as necessary.
> 
> Try your bug and tar remover first, then polish, then rubbing compound if 
> necessary.

I was thinking bug and tar remover, then lacquer thinner, then 
polishing/rubbing compounds. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Key Holder W124

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Physics

--FT


On 12/4/17 3:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Genius.

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Gently heat the rubber key holder to make it flexible and hopefully just a
micrometer larger. Stick key in freezer to hopefully make it a micrometer
smaller. Well, ok, stick the key in the freezer the night before, but
still. Then slowly work it into the seat.

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Hi Gang,
 The rubber key holder thingamajig on my 300D vehicles key had finally
broken.  I had a new one but when I tried to install it the rubber split.
Seems to be a pretty tight fit,

 Any suggestions for installing the rubber holder?   I'd rather not
break any more...

Thanks!
LarryT
300D

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Re: [MBZ] Right rear outside axle boot

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

How are you going to install it?

RB

On 04/12/2017 2:46 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks Max. I’m interested. Please let me know. Mine has a hole in it.
Thanks

Michael E. Esh



On Dec 4, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
wrote:

I may have "NOS" OE boot for you.  Back in about 2002 or so, I ordered a
set from MB for my 1985 123.190.  Then I read the service manual, and found
that I needed the special tool to re-assemble the can, shelved the parts
and bought a used axle on the advice of Marshall Booth.  There used to be
an independent shop in town that had the special tool, but the price they
quoted me was far higher than the cost of the used axle.

I'll take a look later this week and let you know if I can find it.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Any thoughts on where to order a quality right rear outside axle boot for
my 85 300D?




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Re: [MBZ] Right rear outside axle boot

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Thanks Max. I’m interested. Please let me know. Mine has a hole in it. 
Thanks 

Michael E. Esh


> On Dec 4, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I may have "NOS" OE boot for you.  Back in about 2002 or so, I ordered a
> set from MB for my 1985 123.190.  Then I read the service manual, and found
> that I needed the special tool to re-assemble the can, shelved the parts
> and bought a used axle on the advice of Marshall Booth.  There used to be
> an independent shop in town that had the special tool, but the price they
> quoted me was far higher than the cost of the used axle.
> 
> I'll take a look later this week and let you know if I can find it.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Any thoughts on where to order a quality right rear outside axle boot for
>> my 85 300D?
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Key Holder W124

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Genius.

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Gently heat the rubber key holder to make it flexible and hopefully just a
> micrometer larger. Stick key in freezer to hopefully make it a micrometer
> smaller. Well, ok, stick the key in the freezer the night before, but
> still. Then slowly work it into the seat.
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Gang,
> > The rubber key holder thingamajig on my 300D vehicles key had finally
> > broken.  I had a new one but when I tried to install it the rubber split.
> > Seems to be a pretty tight fit,
> >
> > Any suggestions for installing the rubber holder?   I'd rather not
> > break any more...
> >
> > Thanks!
> > LarryT
> > 300D
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Re: [MBZ] Key Holder W124

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Gently heat the rubber key holder to make it flexible and hopefully just a
micrometer larger. Stick key in freezer to hopefully make it a micrometer
smaller. Well, ok, stick the key in the freezer the night before, but
still. Then slowly work it into the seat.

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hi Gang,
> The rubber key holder thingamajig on my 300D vehicles key had finally
> broken.  I had a new one but when I tried to install it the rubber split.
> Seems to be a pretty tight fit,
>
> Any suggestions for installing the rubber holder?   I'd rather not
> break any more...
>
> Thanks!
> LarryT
> 300D
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Re: [MBZ] paint repair question

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Randy inquires :

>‎How would you remove a couple of >streaks of white latex (most likely) 
>paint from the surface of a vehicle?

WD40.

Rick‎
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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I love Mandarin oranges, even though they may be seedy.  They are available
at Great Wall in the DMV area.

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 17:22:49 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > He was not.  He spoke Mandarin, as I’m mildly conversational in it, so
> > I engaged him in a rather halting conversation to be friendly.  From
> > what I could tell he was from mainland China.
>
> About whom are you talking? I thought the thread was about the fellow in
> San Francisco ...
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] paint repair question

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If it's a small area try your finger nail first.  If that rubs it off
carefully use a soft wood spatula for the rest.  Then the finest steel
wool.  I would avoid any chemicals until later.

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Start out light then move up to more aggressive products as necessary.
>
> Try your bug and tar remover first, then polish, then rubbing compound if
> necessary.
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 4, 2017, at 12:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > How would you remove a couple of streaks of white latex (most likely)
> paint from the surface of a vehicle? Varsol? Bug and Tar remover?
> >
> > Long story, but yesterday, I went to a friend's house to pick up
> something. He had visitors parking in his extra space and in front of his
> garage door.
> >
> > I pulle in accross the lane in front of another garage with 2 overhead
> doors. I know the folks who own that house too so I was not too worried
> about pulling onto the apron. I did not expect to be very long.
> >
> > Their garage has old style single panel doors so when they open, they
> turn out and up. They did not know my truck was there so when they opened
> the garage door, it struck the fender flair on my truck.
> >
> > It looks as though it just smeared a bit of white paint on the flair so
> I think it will come off without leaving much of a mark so long as I don't
> damage the paint trying to remove it. I would think the garage door was
> just painted with white latex paint as it is flat and not shiny.
> >
> > My own fault for parking there and not going to their door to warn
> them. I was thinking worst case scenario they would come home and find me
> blocking their garage access and not really thinking they would hit the
> truck if they were home and wanted to leave.
> >
> > RB
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Right rear outside axle boot

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I may have "NOS" OE boot for you.  Back in about 2002 or so, I ordered a
set from MB for my 1985 123.190.  Then I read the service manual, and found
that I needed the special tool to re-assemble the can, shelved the parts
and bought a used axle on the advice of Marshall Booth.  There used to be
an independent shop in town that had the special tool, but the price they
quoted me was far higher than the cost of the used axle.

I'll take a look later this week and let you know if I can find it.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Any thoughts on where to order a quality right rear outside axle boot for
> my 85 300D?
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] no Ingles

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 17:22:49 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> He was not.  He spoke Mandarin, as I’m mildly conversational in it, so
> I engaged him in a rather halting conversation to be friendly.  From
> what I could tell he was from mainland China.

About whom are you talking? I thought the thread was about the fellow in
San Francisco ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting documentary

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That's cool, thanks for sharing!


-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 6:43 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Have you guys heard of International Military Antiques (IMA)?A couple
> months ago I found a reproduction Brown Bess musket at Cabelas for about
> half off. I didn't buy it that day and when I went back it was gone but it
> got me thinking about very old military guns. My dad collects military guns
> but nothing that old so I don't have much exposure.Turns out you can buy a
> REAL Brown Bess for about $3,000 in decent shooting condition.
> Where does IMA come into it? Well back in 2003 they bought a cache of guns
> out of a palace in Nepal, theres a documentary:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yHOmgU4Afs which is worth watching, the
> story is amazing.
> Theres one scene in the documentary where they're climbing on a pile of
> gun flints that the British East India company would have imported into
> Nepal sometime pre say 1850. Today I ordered a pound of those flints. I've
> been buying new manufacture ones for $2.50 each, IMA claims a pound will
> have 20-30, I paid $37, you do the math ;)
> Anyway it'll be awhile before I really get my hands on them but having
> watched the documentary I had to buy them...
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] paint repair question

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Start out light then move up to more aggressive products as necessary.

Try your bug and tar remover first, then polish, then rubbing compound if 
necessary.

-D

> On Dec 4, 2017, at 12:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> How would you remove a couple of streaks of white latex (most likely) paint 
> from the surface of a vehicle? Varsol? Bug and Tar remover?
> 
> Long story, but yesterday, I went to a friend's house to pick up something. 
> He had visitors parking in his extra space and in front of his garage door.
> 
> I pulle in accross the lane in front of another garage with 2 overhead doors. 
> I know the folks who own that house too so I was not too worried about 
> pulling onto the apron. I did not expect to be very long.
> 
> Their garage has old style single panel doors so when they open, they turn 
> out and up. They did not know my truck was there so when they opened the 
> garage door, it struck the fender flair on my truck.
> 
> It looks as though it just smeared a bit of white paint on the flair so I 
> think it will come off without leaving much of a mark so long as I don't 
> damage the paint trying to remove it. I would think the garage door was just 
> painted with white latex paint as it is flat and not shiny.
> 
> My own fault for parking there and not going to their door to warn  them. I 
> was thinking worst case scenario they would come home and find me blocking 
> their garage access and not really thinking they would hit the truck if they 
> were home and wanted to leave.
> 
> RB
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Right rear outside axle boot

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I believe your choices are limited, based on research I did for the same some 
months ago.

You can order the OE boot, disassemble the axle and joint and install it; or,

Find someone who has the tool to do the expandable boots that can be installed 
on the axle as an assembly (as opposed to having to disassemble.)

I looked far and wide for a split boot, realizing that it’s a bandaid at best, 
but no luck.

-D

> On Dec 4, 2017, at 12:17 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes  
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> 
> Any thoughts on where to order a quality right rear outside axle boot for my 
> 85 300D?
> 
> 
> Michael E. Esh
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[MBZ] paint repair question

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

How would you remove a couple of streaks of white latex (most likely) 
paint from the surface of a vehicle? Varsol? Bug and Tar remover?


Long story, but yesterday, I went to a friend's house to pick up 
something. He had visitors parking in his extra space and in front of 
his garage door.


I pulle in accross the lane in front of another garage with 2 overhead 
doors. I know the folks who own that house too so I was not too worried 
about pulling onto the apron. I did not expect to be very long.


Their garage has old style single panel doors so when they open, they 
turn out and up. They did not know my truck was there so when they 
opened the garage door, it struck the fender flair on my truck.


It looks as though it just smeared a bit of white paint on the flair so 
I think it will come off without leaving much of a mark so long as I 
don't damage the paint trying to remove it. I would think the garage 
door was just painted with white latex paint as it is flat and not shiny.


My own fault for parking there and not going to their door to warn  
them. I was thinking worst case scenario they would come home and find 
me blocking their garage access and not really thinking they would hit 
the truck if they were home and wanted to leave.


RB


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[MBZ] Right rear outside axle boot

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Any thoughts on where to order a quality right rear outside axle boot for my 85 
300D?


Michael E. Esh

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Re: [MBZ] Heart peoblems

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You are a modern day Renaissance man.

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:26 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] Heart peoblems

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

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