Re: [MBZ] Value of Old Things
The kids do not do any actually cooking. They are not as crafty or manually dexterous either. I was reading an article about how the new breed of doctor can not perform basic surgical tasks, because they lack the fine motor skills and never were exposed to things like sewing or other crafty things. They are really good at manipulating the ipad with the patient charts though. I think the lack of regard for traditional housewares is due to the people having kids since the 1960’s. A reaction to the “old” ways that they grew up in. Just can’t be like mom and dad with Grandma’s good china and the silver. Too Bougie for them. So they did not inculcate an appreciation for quality furniture, china, silver or etiquette. Their children are under educated, uncultured boors who think nothing of eating off plastic plates and know only how to micro nuke a bag of popped corn. Just my view from high atop my pompous mole hill clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net > On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:43 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dan, > > What you mentioned about furniture and other old things is sadly true. > Young people today want disposable dinnerware, less furniture, and lack any > idea of quality and the craftsmanship it takes to create quality. Our sales > have declined over the last few years. We never really dealt in furniture, > especially big stuff. We see it at auctions and estate sales and it goes for > really cheap prices...sad to see. Young folks display big TVs, electronic > gizmos, etc. etc. , things that wear out and are disposable. They use cheap > dinnerware and flatware and glasses, none of which need a nice hutch, > sideboard, or cabinet to display. Holding a fine piece of silver flatware in > your hand and comparing it to the cheap Wal-Mart offerings is amazing. I > help my wife polish silverware when we get new pieces to keep or to sell. > It's pleasing to see the craftsmanship that went into things made in the > 1700s, 1800s, and early 1900s. The feel is just amazing. > > So, if you have some old nice items, value them, use them, and display > them. Let them bring you joy, especially at the holidays. > > Best Wishes, > > Roger > > Roger Hale > Dinnerware Classics, Inc. > Monroe, Ga. > 770-267-0850 > www.dinnerwareclassics.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This wagon again
The infernal Command system that rots away when exposed to moisture. The W220 ended up with a dead CD, Voice Command, and other fiber optical tidbits being dead clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net > On Dec 8, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 17:56:11 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > >> I think the price is lower, looks decent >> >> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/02-mercedes-wagon-e320/6758490073.html > > I'm confused where the last picture > https://images.craigslist.org/00F0F_5OdzKbEiCmG_1200x900.jpg > was taken and what, besides a First Aid Kit, it shows. > > Anyone have any ideas? > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Heartwarming Tale For Dimitri
I hated that nasty tree on the rental I used last year. Stupid video game to virtue signal just how much better than the guy in that smoky diesel you are. The new cars are all rolling video games that get crap gas mileage. I continue to search for a solution for Allen. A fairly recent used car gets no better fuel usage than I was getting over 25 years ago in a japanese car. Now a person needs to be in a plastic car with a midget motor and video screens to more efficiently use petrol? I think the auto industry jumped the shark decades ago. clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net > On Dec 8, 2018, at 5:35 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I’m with Mitch. I’m not hung up on mpg, but when I have the ability to > improve it with my driving habits or otherwise I’ll do it. > > When I was driving the Ford Fusion hybrid when the S420 got totaled, they had > a little thing in the instrument panel that showed a tree with leaves on it. > That is, you got “leafs” as you drove the car more efficiently. So now it’s a > challenge for me. After driving the car for 2-1/2 weeks I think I put 10 > gallons of gas in it and the “tree” was pretty well “leafed” out. > > I joked with the wife about how if she had a car like that the tree would > just be a bunch of dead sticks…. > > -D > > >> On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Back in 1971 when I bought my first MB, cars got 17-18 MPG if you drove for >> mileage. My 67 Chevelle got 10, no matter what I did to try to improve >> mileage. My 66 Bronco (acquired in 1973) got 10, no matter what I did to >> try to get better mileage. Gas was mostly 35.9¢ and Diesel 27.9 to >> 28.8¢/gal. In this environment, my 190Dc and later 200D got 27 to 30 and >> as much as 35 mpg. You can figger out what a savings that was. >> >> Later I had the wabbit at 50 mpg, the escort at 50-55 mpg and the quantum >> at 45 mpg, loaded to the gills and going 75. In high MPG conditions it >> would probably do 50-55 also. >> I gave up the high mileage game when I got the first SDL. The speed and >> comfort was amazing. The kids not only didn't complain about riding in it, >> but enjoyed riding in the back seat. >> >> It was the reliability and MPG that sold many people on a MB Diesel in the >> early 80s, after 15 yrs of detriot iron getting worse all the time. Most >> 73-74 land yachts did no better than 10 mpg, up from 18, due to all the >> gooberment mandated "improvements."I believe 1983 was the high point of >> MB Diesel sales in the USA. That was when I went to a MBCA meeting in the >> quad cities, and in place of all gassers with a couple Diesels, there was >> all (mostly new) Diesels, with a couple gassers. [yes, I said 10 MPG, UP >> from 18. That is goober-speak, reflecting the "improvements" mandated.] >> >> Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 12/8/18 6:52 AM: >>> >>> I'm not Pious about mpg but I do get an odd satisfaction from a vehicle >>> that gives better than expected fuel economy. I loved my Saab 99, but it >>> got 24mpg, didn't seem to matter much whether in town or open road, while >>> my backup car, a $435 rusty POS 1980 Citation I bought in 1985 with 145,000 >>> miles on it, would get 39 mpg indicated, 37 mpg actual, in rural driving in >>> warm weather. The mpg was one reason I was fond of that Citation, another >>> was its extreme utility, I could carry 1000lb of tools and tool cabinets in >>> it and it never complained. Back when gas was 80-90 cents a gallon I never >>> felt any pain filling up the Saab, but filling the Citation always felt >>> good. Funny thing is, I have no idea what mpg I got in my 1975 Civic, other >>> than it was not that good for a 1850lb car with a stratified charge engine, >>> I'm guessing around 28-30mpg, the fault of the 2 speed semi auto trans no >>> doubt. >>> >>> Now I play the 'how high can my mpg get' game with a 2016 Chevy Cruze. Last >>> summer I went 630 miles on 12.6 gallons of gas. I bought a tuner for it >>> Thanksgiving weekend, now I want to set up a manual mode for the auto >>> transmission and see if I can hit 60mpg in the sort of 55mph driving that >>> got 37 in the Citation 40 years ago. >>> >>> Mitch >>> >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz
[MBZ] MB Literature on bay of fleas
1974 300D dealer training https://www.ebay.com/itm/233039116548 74 240D dealer training https://www.ebay.com/itm/233039097924 75 full line dealer training https://www.ebay.com/itm/233039092847 1986 S class, SL https://www.ebay.com/itm/233039077331 1981 S class 126 300SD, 380SEL https://www.ebay.com/itm/233030898739 1978 full line dealer training https://www.ebay.com/itm/233030845666 1981 full line sales brochure https://www.ebay.com/itm/233030831922 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
I've tapped 2 deer, one I hit in the butt with my Ranger, I don't think it killed her, I never found her anyway. That one bent the bumper into the tire at hard lock and ruined the fog light.The other I hit with my '85 190D (MB content), it was standing on the yellow line when I noticed it and commenced hard braking. I ended up hitting that one in the face with the driver's mirror. The fact that it didn't break the mirror suggests I didn't hit it that hard. We got stopped and I looked back to see the deer shake its head and bound off the road... -Curt On Saturday, December 8, 2018, 4:08:06 PM EST, ROGER HALE via Mercedes wrote: Sorry Mitch, but I didn't tag you to this thread. I merely started it as somewhat sad and humorous regarding some of the topics that arise. Similar to the other list where they get off on topics like wine tasting, cheese favorites, etc. Sometimes you think you are on one of the cooking networks. I realize we are all getting older so there isn't a lot of MB work, etc. to discuss. As to me, my 80 and 83 and currently sitting for awhile. I will probably sell the 83 300D and at some point have some repairs made to the 80 300SD and put it back on the road. As to deer, just a suggestion. I grew up and learned to drive "up North" and currently drive in the South. When learning up North, the main issue was to constantly scan the sides of the road, peripheral vision is a real benefit. Now I continue to do the same in the South. I've been lucky having driven for over 50 years and never hit a deer. I just hope to stay lucky. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Series 5 F series Ford pickups -the anti-Prius
I forgot that you are a vintage truck expert! What is your favorite truck? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 9:23 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: > > I had,a,67 F350 with a custom bed. Had 351 cleveland. I had to fix some cab > corners & floor rust but It was a great truck. I only got rid of it because > we were moving down south & i chose to ship my 50 dodge 1/2 ton instead. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > >> On Dec 8, 2018 8:33 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" wrote: >> Anyone know anything about these? They were made from 1967-1972 as far as I >> know. I’m considering buying one as I need such a vehicle to haul stuff >> around. They have a nice look and I like the simplicity of an older vehicle. >> Thoughts? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Series 5 F series Ford pickups -the anti-Prius
Yeah rust free will be a challenge. Thanks for all the tips. Did they come with manual tranny? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 9:51 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Good basic pickup. As long as it is not rusted away, and the engine runs, > then you might wanna check out the front end for worn ball joints, tie rods, > LCA bushings, etc. (Assuming 2wd) If 4 WD, there are 4 bearings in the > steering knuckles, if memory serves. They are pretty easy to put new > bearings in. There are shims to adjust the preload, but as long as you are > careful, and put them all back the same way, you should not need to > check/adjust them. > > Check all the u joints and if it has CV joints, check them too. The CV > joints were expensive in 1972, and probably are now also. > > Plan on putting volvo seats in it unless you are only gonna drive it under an > hour at a time. > > Dimitri via Mercedes wrote on 12/8/18 7:32 PM: >> Anyone know anything about these? They were made from 1967-1972 as far as I >> know. I’m considering buying one as I need such a vehicle to haul stuff >> around. They have a nice look and I like the simplicity of an older vehicle. >> Thoughts? >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Could be a polished turd
On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 18:42:25 -0600 tyee165 via Mercedes wrote: > Didn't hold the camera level. Look at the background which tilts to the > right. The right-front wheel appears to be in a low spot, too. Craig > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > Original message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes > Date: 2018-12-08 4:42 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Okie > Benz Cc: Dan Penoff Subject: > Re: [MBZ] Could be a polished turd The stance of the car in the picture > of the passenger side looks weird. These are a blast to drive when set > up properly. ON’t pass many gas stations, but the smile factor is > pretty high. If it checks out the price is pretty much in line with > the market. > > -D > > > > On Dec 8, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > 1971 Mercedes 250c > > und > > https://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/d/1971-mercedes-250c/6767117800.html > > hh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Value of Old Things
And we do, Roger. I wonder how many millennials would know what a cake break is? I bet they would think it was some sort of a comb if you just handed one to them… -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 9:43 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dan, > > What you mentioned about furniture and other old things is sadly true. > Young people today want disposable dinnerware, less furniture, and lack any > idea of quality and the craftsmanship it takes to create quality. Our sales > have declined over the last few years. We never really dealt in furniture, > especially big stuff. We see it at auctions and estate sales and it goes for > really cheap prices...sad to see. Young folks display big TVs, electronic > gizmos, etc. etc. , things that wear out and are disposable. They use cheap > dinnerware and flatware and glasses, none of which need a nice hutch, > sideboard, or cabinet to display. Holding a fine piece of silver flatware in > your hand and comparing it to the cheap Wal-Mart offerings is amazing. I > help my wife polish silverware when we get new pieces to keep or to sell. > It's pleasing to see the craftsmanship that went into things made in the > 1700s, 1800s, and early 1900s. The feel is just amazing. > > So, if you have some old nice items, value them, use them, and display > them. Let them bring you joy, especially at the holidays. > > Best Wishes, > > Roger > > Roger Hale > Dinnerware Classics, Inc. > Monroe, Ga. > 770-267-0850 > www.dinnerwareclassics.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Series 5 F series Ford pickups -the anti-Prius
Good basic pickup. As long as it is not rusted away, and the engine runs, then you might wanna check out the front end for worn ball joints, tie rods, LCA bushings, etc. (Assuming 2wd) If 4 WD, there are 4 bearings in the steering knuckles, if memory serves. They are pretty easy to put new bearings in. There are shims to adjust the preload, but as long as you are careful, and put them all back the same way, you should not need to check/adjust them. Check all the u joints and if it has CV joints, check them too. The CV joints were expensive in 1972, and probably are now also. Plan on putting volvo seats in it unless you are only gonna drive it under an hour at a time. Dimitri via Mercedes wrote on 12/8/18 7:32 PM: Anyone know anything about these? They were made from 1967-1972 as far as I know. I’m considering buying one as I need such a vehicle to haul stuff around. They have a nice look and I like the simplicity of an older vehicle. Thoughts? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill
Yes, I definitely agree about the horn. I use it when necessary. Where I grew up there weren't many deer, but you had to worry more about a cow out of pasture or a horse on the lose, etc. I still rely more on my vision and constant search of both roadsides. It has served me well so far and I only hope it continues. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Value of Old Things
Dan, What you mentioned about furniture and other old things is sadly true. Young people today want disposable dinnerware, less furniture, and lack any idea of quality and the craftsmanship it takes to create quality. Our sales have declined over the last few years. We never really dealt in furniture, especially big stuff. We see it at auctions and estate sales and it goes for really cheap prices...sad to see. Young folks display big TVs, electronic gizmos, etc. etc. , things that wear out and are disposable. They use cheap dinnerware and flatware and glasses, none of which need a nice hutch, sideboard, or cabinet to display. Holding a fine piece of silver flatware in your hand and comparing it to the cheap Wal-Mart offerings is amazing. I help my wife polish silverware when we get new pieces to keep or to sell. It's pleasing to see the craftsmanship that went into things made in the 1700s, 1800s, and early 1900s. The feel is just amazing. So, if you have some old nice items, value them, use them, and display them. Let them bring you joy, especially at the holidays. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Series 5 F series Ford pickups -the anti-Prius
I had,a,67 F350 with a custom bed. Had 351 cleveland. I had to fix some cab corners & floor rust but It was a great truck. I only got rid of it because we were moving down south & i chose to ship my 50 dodge 1/2 ton instead. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Dec 8, 2018 8:33 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" wrote: > Anyone know anything about these? They were made from 1967-1972 as far as > I know. I’m considering buying one as I need such a vehicle to haul stuff > around. They have a nice look and I like the simplicity of an older > vehicle. Thoughts? > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair
Well now I don’t feel as bad! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Jamie mentioned to me that he had an issue with an OE seal that lasted a > relatively short time. Makes me wonder if that’s still the way to go, > considering the cost… > > -D > > >> On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I replaced the front and rear seals on my 240D last spring with OE purchased >> at classic Center. The rear still leaks but less than before! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >>> >>> The seal was OEM so I don't think that is the problem. More likely rust >>> somewhere. >>> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:43 PM Dimitri wrote: Sometimes windshields still leak even after seal replacement. Was it a genuine Mercedes seal/gasket? Have you checked around the seal for water intrusion while driving during heavy rain? Could there be hidden rust through in the rocker area which might be concealed by the plastic cover in the wheel well? Sent from my iPhone > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair
Jamie mentioned to me that he had an issue with an OE seal that lasted a relatively short time. Makes me wonder if that’s still the way to go, considering the cost… -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes > wrote: > > I replaced the front and rear seals on my 240D last spring with OE purchased > at classic Center. The rear still leaks but less than before! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >> >> The seal was OEM so I don't think that is the problem. More likely rust >> somewhere. >> >>> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:43 PM Dimitri wrote: >>> Sometimes windshields still leak even after seal replacement. Was it a >>> genuine Mercedes seal/gasket? Have you checked around the seal for water >>> intrusion while driving during heavy rain? >>> Could there be hidden rust through in the rocker area which might be >>> concealed by the plastic cover in the wheel well? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair
Be thankful for small victories. On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:50 PM Dimitri wrote: > I replaced the front and rear seals on my 240D last spring with OE > purchased at classic Center. The rear still leaks but less than before! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > > The seal was OEM so I don't think that is the problem. More likely rust > somewhere. > > On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:43 PM Dimitri wrote: > >> Sometimes windshields still leak even after seal replacement. Was it a >> genuine Mercedes seal/gasket? Have you checked around the seal for water >> intrusion while driving during heavy rain? >> Could there be hidden rust through in the rocker area which might be >> concealed by the plastic cover in the wheel well? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel >> wrote: >> >> Got it. Any ideas where my driver's side leak might originate? I've >> addressed the w/s and seal, and door seal already. Hood hinges have been >> cleaned out too. >> >> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:00 PM Dimitri wrote: >> >>> Passenger side. That’s where you usually get the rust due to corrosive >>> effects of battery acid. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel >>> wrote: >>> >>> Driver's side or PS? My driver's side does the same thing but the PS >>> remains dry (where the battery tray is located) on my W123 300TD wagon. >>> The w/s and rubber seal have been replaced but it still gets wet via the >>> firewall or fender sea,. I replaced the front driver's side seal and >>> cracked grommet so that's not the source. >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 9:41 AM Dimitri via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> Yes front and rear foot wells get wet but water puddles in rear. Front carpet has rotted now. Will need to replace. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 9:06 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > So the front footwell gets wet too but it accumulates in the back so is more noticeable > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > Original message From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-12-07 5:17 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Jim Cathey < jim.cathey...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair > W123 battery in the same place as W201 and W126, on the engine firewall. > > Water flows downhill, the rear footwells are the lowest point in the car. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Heartwarming Tale For Dimitri
DITTO. On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:54 PM Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: > Yes, I rented a PTC once as well. I was extremely unimpressed! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:47 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I rented a PTC once. Once. What an execrable POS > > > > --FT > > Sent from iPhone > > > >> On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Would that also apply to PT Cruisers and Chevy HHTs? > >> > >> -D > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Heartwarming Tale For Dimitri
Yes, I rented a PTC once as well. I was extremely unimpressed! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:47 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > I rented a PTC once. Once. What an execrable POS > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > >> On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Would that also apply to PT Cruisers and Chevy HHTs? >> >> -D > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair
I replaced the front and rear seals on my 240D last spring with OE purchased at classic Center. The rear still leaks but less than before! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > The seal was OEM so I don't think that is the problem. More likely rust > somewhere. > >> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:43 PM Dimitri wrote: >> Sometimes windshields still leak even after seal replacement. Was it a >> genuine Mercedes seal/gasket? Have you checked around the seal for water >> intrusion while driving during heavy rain? >> Could there be hidden rust through in the rocker area which might be >> concealed by the plastic cover in the wheel well? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >>> >>> Got it. Any ideas where my driver's side leak might originate? I've >>> addressed the w/s and seal, and door seal already. Hood hinges have been >>> cleaned out too. >>> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:00 PM Dimitri wrote: Passenger side. That’s where you usually get the rust due to corrosive effects of battery acid. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > > Driver's side or PS? My driver's side does the same thing but the PS > remains dry (where the battery tray is located) on my W123 300TD wagon. > The w/s and rubber seal have been replaced but it still gets wet via the > firewall or fender sea,. I replaced the front driver's side seal and > cracked grommet so that's not the source. > >> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 9:41 AM Dimitri via Mercedes >> wrote: >> Yes front and rear foot wells get wet but water puddles in rear. Front >> carpet has rotted now. Will need to replace. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Dec 8, 2018, at 9:06 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes >> > wrote: >> > >> > So the front footwell gets wet too but it accumulates in the back so >> > is more noticeable >> > >> > >> > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A >> > Original message From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes >> > Date: 2018-12-07 5:17 PM (GMT-06:00) To: >> > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Jim Cathey >> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair >> > W123 battery in the same place as W201 and W126, on the engine >> > firewall. >> > >> > Water flows downhill, the rear footwells are the lowest point in the >> > car. >> > >> > -- Jim >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Heartwarming Tale For Dimitri
I rented a PTC once. Once. What an execrable POS --FT Sent from iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Would that also apply to PT Cruisers and Chevy HHTs? > > -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair
The seal was OEM so I don't think that is the problem. More likely rust somewhere. On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:43 PM Dimitri wrote: > Sometimes windshields still leak even after seal replacement. Was it a > genuine Mercedes seal/gasket? Have you checked around the seal for water > intrusion while driving during heavy rain? > Could there be hidden rust through in the rocker area which might be > concealed by the plastic cover in the wheel well? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > > Got it. Any ideas where my driver's side leak might originate? I've > addressed the w/s and seal, and door seal already. Hood hinges have been > cleaned out too. > > On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:00 PM Dimitri wrote: > >> Passenger side. That’s where you usually get the rust due to corrosive >> effects of battery acid. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 8, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel >> wrote: >> >> Driver's side or PS? My driver's side does the same thing but the PS >> remains dry (where the battery tray is located) on my W123 300TD wagon. >> The w/s and rubber seal have been replaced but it still gets wet via the >> firewall or fender sea,. I replaced the front driver's side seal and >> cracked grommet so that's not the source. >> >> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 9:41 AM Dimitri via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Yes front and rear foot wells get wet but water puddles in rear. Front >>> carpet has rotted now. Will need to replace. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > On Dec 8, 2018, at 9:06 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > So the front footwell gets wet too but it accumulates in the back so >>> is more noticeable >>> > >>> > >>> > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A >>> > Original message From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-12-07 5:17 PM (GMT-06:00) To: >>> Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Jim Cathey < >>> jim.cathey...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair >>> > W123 battery in the same place as W201 and W126, on the engine >>> firewall. >>> > >>> > Water flows downhill, the rear footwells are the lowest point in the >>> car. >>> > >>> > -- Jim >>> > >>> > >>> > ___ >>> > http://www.okiebenz.com >>> > >>> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> > >>> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> > >>> > ___ >>> > http://www.okiebenz.com >>> > >>> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> > >>> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> > >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair
Sometimes windshields still leak even after seal replacement. Was it a genuine Mercedes seal/gasket? Have you checked around the seal for water intrusion while driving during heavy rain? Could there be hidden rust through in the rocker area which might be concealed by the plastic cover in the wheel well? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Got it. Any ideas where my driver's side leak might originate? I've > addressed the w/s and seal, and door seal already. Hood hinges have been > cleaned out too. > >> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:00 PM Dimitri wrote: >> Passenger side. That’s where you usually get the rust due to corrosive >> effects of battery acid. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >>> >>> Driver's side or PS? My driver's side does the same thing but the PS >>> remains dry (where the battery tray is located) on my W123 300TD wagon. >>> The w/s and rubber seal have been replaced but it still gets wet via the >>> firewall or fender sea,. I replaced the front driver's side seal and >>> cracked grommet so that's not the source. >>> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 9:41 AM Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: Yes front and rear foot wells get wet but water puddles in rear. Front carpet has rotted now. Will need to replace. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 9:06 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes > wrote: > > So the front footwell gets wet too but it accumulates in the back so is > more noticeable > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > Original message From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes > Date: 2018-12-07 5:17 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Jim Cathey > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair > W123 battery in the same place as W201 and W126, on the engine firewall. > > Water flows downhill, the rear footwells are the lowest point in the car. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair
Got it. Any ideas where my driver's side leak might originate? I've addressed the w/s and seal, and door seal already. Hood hinges have been cleaned out too. On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:00 PM Dimitri wrote: > Passenger side. That’s where you usually get the rust due to corrosive > effects of battery acid. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 8, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > > Driver's side or PS? My driver's side does the same thing but the PS > remains dry (where the battery tray is located) on my W123 300TD wagon. > The w/s and rubber seal have been replaced but it still gets wet via the > firewall or fender sea,. I replaced the front driver's side seal and > cracked grommet so that's not the source. > > On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 9:41 AM Dimitri via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Yes front and rear foot wells get wet but water puddles in rear. Front >> carpet has rotted now. Will need to replace. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Dec 8, 2018, at 9:06 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes >> wrote: >> > >> > So the front footwell gets wet too but it accumulates in the back so is >> more noticeable >> > >> > >> > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A >> > Original message From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-12-07 5:17 PM (GMT-06:00) To: >> Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Jim Cathey < >> jim.cathey...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair >> > W123 battery in the same place as W201 and W126, on the engine firewall. >> > >> > Water flows downhill, the rear footwells are the lowest point in the >> car. >> > >> > -- Jim >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone
I’ll buy it and add my buyer’s premium onto the top. Or if it’s decent I’ll buy it and sell you my 98 wagon. -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 7:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > If Poos does not want it, I might. > > On 12/8/2018 6:55 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >> Actually, I was almost going to have you check it out for me. Almost. Other >> priorities, but perhaps after the of the year, if you don't mind. I'm done >> with driving rust belt cars. >> >> >> Rick >> >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Sent: December 8, 2018 6:11 PM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Cc: d...@penoff.com >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone >> >> >> Yes, that can be a problem at times….. >> >> Actually, this car has about 45k less than mine, it’s a facelift model and >> has 4Matic. If it’s recoverable, that is, if it’s not trashed or somehow in >> serious need of something other than what the owner describes (highly >> unlikely given that it’s a CL ad) I could see swapping it out for the one I >> currently drive and selling it. >> >> I’m going to call the seller tomorrow and see what’s up. I’ve got $1,000 in >> cash I can take with me… >> >> -D >> >> >> >>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:55 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Just what you need for plowing through all that sunshine on the roads >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Sent: December 8, 2018 5:43 PM >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Cc: d...@penoff.com >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone >>> >>> >>> Nice, 4Matic, too. Might have to go look at this… >>> >>> -D >>> >>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/2000-mercedes-wagon/6765861875.html Rick >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Series 5 F series Ford pickups -the anti-Prius
Anyone know anything about these? They were made from 1967-1972 as far as I know. I’m considering buying one as I need such a vehicle to haul stuff around. They have a nice look and I like the simplicity of an older vehicle. Thoughts? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Heartwarming Tale For Dimitri
Actually, I should have said Chevy HHRs, I think. I just always thought Chrysler PT Cruisers and Chevy HHRs were sort of pussy cars. Worked with a guy who was newly married and had a kid on the way. His in-laws gave he and his wife an HHR, and he was so embarrassed that he would park it in the student lot of the school we worked at so no one would see him driving it. Whatever. I guess it’s just perpetuation of a stereotype, like Subarus are all driven by gay people. -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:22 PM, Dimitri wrote: > > Nope just the Priapism. All other hybrids and electric cars are fine. It’s > just the Prius that is the cult car of urban entitled emasculated men. These > guys are the bitches of their wives, unless they are gay of course. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Dang, that’s harsh! >> >> Would that also apply to PT Cruisers and Chevy HHTs? >> >> -D >> >> >>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:11 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> In my opinion, if you drive a Priapism you are an emasculated pussy. End of >>> story. Sorry to those here who drive one! Actually I’m not sorry, sorry! >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Heartwarming Tale For Dimitri
Nope just the Priapism. All other hybrids and electric cars are fine. It’s just the Prius that is the cult car of urban entitled emasculated men. These guys are the bitches of their wives, unless they are gay of course. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dang, that’s harsh! > > Would that also apply to PT Cruisers and Chevy HHTs? > > -D > > >> On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:11 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> In my opinion, if you drive a Priapism you are an emasculated pussy. End of >> story. Sorry to those here who drive one! Actually I’m not sorry, sorry! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Heartwarming Tale For Dimitri
Dang, that’s harsh! Would that also apply to PT Cruisers and Chevy HHTs? -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:11 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes > wrote: > > In my opinion, if you drive a Priapism you are an emasculated pussy. End of > story. Sorry to those here who drive one! Actually I’m not sorry, sorry! > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Heartwarming Tale For Dimitri
In my opinion, if you drive a Priapism you are an emasculated pussy. End of story. Sorry to those here who drive one! Actually I’m not sorry, sorry! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 3:57 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > It's amusing how some people feel so threatened by the humble Prius, which > just runs and runs for years with little maintainence, that they write > baseless reams of criticism even though they know little about it. > I sometimes print out these diatribes and show them to fellow Prius owners at > the Wine and Cheese bar; much to their own amusement. > Gerry > P.S. Just wait until Hillary and Bernie become president and VP respectively > with Al Gore head of the EPA. They'll be lining up at the crusher with their > Belchfire Many Cylinders. [:o) > > Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >> When I attend meetings of the socialist communist worker's welfare cheaters >> party in downtown D.C. the members are 99 percent Mercedes owners. I feel >> very much at home. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 1:16 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> It’s funny about Pious drivers, they span the range of politics and >>> religion. I have friends who have them who are hard core Trumpers and some >>> who are hard core Bernie/H->illary! folks. Religion all over the map. Some >>> are hard core greenies and some just like the techno idea and fuel >>> efficiency and such. I guess it becomes like a game. Although one day I was >>> driving back from a meeting in Columbia and got passed by my friend who ran >>> the local conservation league, greener than green, was going about 80-85 in >>> his, go figure. I mentioned it later, giving him some sh*t, he said he >>> makes up for it in town when he rides his bike to and from work. Makes some >>> sense I guess. >>> >>> One friend had Benzes forever, gave his 124 to his grandson and far as i >>> know still has his 66 230SL, last i talked to him he had bought a Pious >>> after the 124 and loved it. >>> >>> The ones who flaunt their liberal sensibilities (I’m better than you are!) >>> kinda piss me off but to each his own I guess. I pass them in the diesels, >>> haha now in the V12! Interestingly the V12 has this instantaneous fuel >>> mileage gauge front and center above the speedo, I guess the idea being to >>> TRY to be halfway responsible... >>> >>> --FT >>> Sent from iPhone >>> On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:21 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes >>> wrote: I thought Priapism drivers were atheist or agnostic. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2018, at 8:32 PM, Dwight Giles >>> wrote: > > EXCELLENT moose Friday story. I agree with Dimitri. A lot or people,at >>> my church drive them so I call them Pious rather than Pissus as we used to >>> call them on this list. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Dec 7, 2018 8:24 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" >>> wrote: > Made my night! I was hoping Mr. Moose would have totally wrecked the >>> POS Priapism. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 7, 2018, at 7:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> AND it's Friday. >> >> >>> https://rare.us/rare-animals/theres-nothing-on-earth-this-moose-hates-more-than-this-prius >> >> Rick >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > -- > arche...@embarqmail.com > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives h
Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair
Passenger side. That’s where you usually get the rust due to corrosive effects of battery acid. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Driver's side or PS? My driver's side does the same thing but the PS remains > dry (where the battery tray is located) on my W123 300TD wagon. The w/s and > rubber seal have been replaced but it still gets wet via the firewall or > fender sea,. I replaced the front driver's side seal and cracked grommet so > that's not the source. > >> On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 9:41 AM Dimitri via Mercedes >> wrote: >> Yes front and rear foot wells get wet but water puddles in rear. Front >> carpet has rotted now. Will need to replace. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Dec 8, 2018, at 9:06 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes >> > wrote: >> > >> > So the front footwell gets wet too but it accumulates in the back so is >> > more noticeable >> > >> > >> > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A >> > Original message From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes >> > Date: 2018-12-07 5:17 PM (GMT-06:00) To: >> > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Jim Cathey >> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair >> > W123 battery in the same place as W201 and W126, on the engine firewall. >> > >> > Water flows downhill, the rear footwells are the lowest point in the car. >> > >> > -- Jim >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone
If Poos does not want it, I might. On 12/8/2018 6:55 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Actually, I was almost going to have you check it out for me. Almost. Other priorities, but perhaps after the of the year, if you don't mind. I'm done with driving rust belt cars. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: December 8, 2018 6:11 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone Yes, that can be a problem at times….. Actually, this car has about 45k less than mine, it’s a facelift model and has 4Matic. If it’s recoverable, that is, if it’s not trashed or somehow in serious need of something other than what the owner describes (highly unlikely given that it’s a CL ad) I could see swapping it out for the one I currently drive and selling it. I’m going to call the seller tomorrow and see what’s up. I’ve got $1,000 in cash I can take with me… -D On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:55 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Just what you need for plowing through all that sunshine on the roads Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: December 8, 2018 5:43 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone Nice, 4Matic, too. Might have to go look at this… -D On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/2000-mercedes-wagon/6765861875.html Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone
Actually, I was almost going to have you check it out for me. Almost. Other priorities, but perhaps after the of the year, if you don't mind. I'm done with driving rust belt cars. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: December 8, 2018 6:11 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone Yes, that can be a problem at times….. Actually, this car has about 45k less than mine, it’s a facelift model and has 4Matic. If it’s recoverable, that is, if it’s not trashed or somehow in serious need of something other than what the owner describes (highly unlikely given that it’s a CL ad) I could see swapping it out for the one I currently drive and selling it. I’m going to call the seller tomorrow and see what’s up. I’ve got $1,000 in cash I can take with me… -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:55 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Just what you need for plowing through all that sunshine on the roads > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: December 8, 2018 5:43 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone > > > Nice, 4Matic, too. Might have to go look at this… > > -D > > >> On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: >> >> >> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/2000-mercedes-wagon/6765861875.html >> >> Rick >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Stop. Back up. Or do your best Boris Badenov impression. -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 7:43 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 18:35:52 -0600 tyee165 via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Using the horn is a bad idea with moose. They take it as a challenge >> and will charge the vehicle. > > Oops. > > So what does one do when encountering a moose? > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Could be a polished turd
Didn't hold the camera level. Look at the background which tilts to the right. Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes Date: 2018-12-08 4:42 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Okie Benz Cc: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] Could be a polished turd The stance of the car in the picture of the passenger side looks weird. These are a blast to drive when set up properly. ON’t pass many gas stations, but the smile factor is pretty high. If it checks out the price is pretty much in line with the market. -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > 1971 Mercedes 250c > und > https://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/d/1971-mercedes-250c/6767117800.html > hh > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This wagon again
No. At the top of the panel, just above where you see the icons for the first aid kit and jack/tools, is a black plastic handle that releases the panel and allows it to fold out and down towards the cargo area. It’s hinged at the bottom where it meets the floor of the cargo area. Same thing on the left side, only the spare is behind that one. You can barely see the black plastic handle/release at the top of each panel on both sides, the rear pillars are block part of the view. -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 7:27 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 18:46:44 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Right side cargo area. Covered storage in the area behind the right >> rear wheel. Jack and safety triangle along with the Bose amp that has >> the fiber optic cable going to it and the CD changer. Carpeted panel >> folds down to reveal. Same thing on the left side has the spare tire >> in it. > > The picture linked below, then, is looking downward at the right side of > >https://images.craigslist.org/00h0h_1WXoRJEwou2_1200x900.jpg . > > So one pulls on the D-rings just to the right of the recess into which > the third row seat folds and removes the grey material up to and > including the square white and blue emergency kit symbol and the > triangular red and white warning symbol and the Bose emblem to expose > what is shown in the picture linked below? > > An impact in the right rear could certainly take out the CD changer > (which looks a lot like the one for W124s I got from you). > > > Craig > > >>> I'm confused where the last picture >>> https://images.craigslist.org/00F0F_5OdzKbEiCmG_1200x900.jpg >>> was taken and what, besides a First Aid Kit, it shows. >>> >>> Anyone have any ideas? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
On Sat, 08 Dec 2018 18:35:52 -0600 tyee165 via Mercedes wrote: > Using the horn is a bad idea with moose. They take it as a challenge > and will charge the vehicle. Oops. So what does one do when encountering a moose? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Using the horn is a bad idea with moose. They take it as a challenge and will charge the vehicle. Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: fmiser via Mercedes Date: 2018-12-08 4:32 PM (GMT-06:00) To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: fmiser , ROGER HALE Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley) > ROGER wrote: > As to deer, just a suggestion. I grew up and learned to drive > "up North" and currently drive in the South. When learning up > North, the main issue was to constantly scan the sides of the > road, peripheral vision is a real benefit. That is the first step. Then, the most effective reaction is to sound the horn. And not a polite "toot, toot" but push the button and keep pushing until the risk is over. At the same time, slow down. And don't keep watching the deer you spotted. Very often there are more around and any that you see you have already seen and the _unseen_ ones are the most surprising. This is based on many, many miles of driving in rural deer country. So while I have impacted many deer, the one that got this wagon is the only contact in the last decade or so that I have used the horn. There have been at least a dozen situations that could have easily included impact. Of course, I can't say what would have really happened. In urban and suburban, the horn sounding may be an issue. Use at your own risk. *smiles* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 19:10:56 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Yes, that can be a problem at times….. > > Actually, this car has about 45k less than mine, it’s a facelift model > and has 4Matic. If it’s recoverable, that is, if it’s not trashed or > somehow in serious need of something other than what the owner > describes (highly unlikely given that it’s a CL ad) I could see > swapping it out for the one I currently drive and selling it. > > I’m going to call the seller tomorrow and see what’s up. I’ve got > $1,000 in cash I can take with me… We could use a 4Matic in western North Carolina (which is supposed to get around a foot of snow this weekend). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This wagon again
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 18:46:44 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Right side cargo area. Covered storage in the area behind the right > rear wheel. Jack and safety triangle along with the Bose amp that has > the fiber optic cable going to it and the CD changer. Carpeted panel > folds down to reveal. Same thing on the left side has the spare tire > in it. The picture linked below, then, is looking downward at the right side of https://images.craigslist.org/00h0h_1WXoRJEwou2_1200x900.jpg . So one pulls on the D-rings just to the right of the recess into which the third row seat folds and removes the grey material up to and including the square white and blue emergency kit symbol and the triangular red and white warning symbol and the Bose emblem to expose what is shown in the picture linked below? An impact in the right rear could certainly take out the CD changer (which looks a lot like the one for W124s I got from you). Craig > > I'm confused where the last picture > > https://images.craigslist.org/00F0F_5OdzKbEiCmG_1200x900.jpg > > was taken and what, besides a First Aid Kit, it shows. > > > > Anyone have any ideas? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This wagon again
Looks like the side panel has been pivoted down to show the CD changer, by the looks of it. I guess the first aid kit is mounted to the back of the side panel... Craig wrote: > >I'm confused where the last picture >https://images.craigslist.org/00F0F_5OdzKbEiCmG_1200x900.jpg >was taken and what, besides a First Aid Kit, it shows. > >Anyone have any ideas? > > >Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone
Yes, that can be a problem at times….. Actually, this car has about 45k less than mine, it’s a facelift model and has 4Matic. If it’s recoverable, that is, if it’s not trashed or somehow in serious need of something other than what the owner describes (highly unlikely given that it’s a CL ad) I could see swapping it out for the one I currently drive and selling it. I’m going to call the seller tomorrow and see what’s up. I’ve got $1,000 in cash I can take with me… -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:55 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Just what you need for plowing through all that sunshine on the roads > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: December 8, 2018 5:43 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone > > > Nice, 4Matic, too. Might have to go look at this… > > -D > > >> On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: >> >> >> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/2000-mercedes-wagon/6765861875.html >> >> Rick >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone
Just what you need for plowing through all that sunshine on the roads Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: December 8, 2018 5:43 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone Nice, 4Matic, too. Might have to go look at this… -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: > > > https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/2000-mercedes-wagon/6765861875.html > > Rick > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone
That looks like a good deal On 12/8/2018 5:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/2000-mercedes-wagon/6765861875.html Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This wagon again
Right side cargo area. Covered storage in the area behind the right rear wheel. Jack and safety triangle along with the Bose amp that has the fiber optic cable going to it and the CD changer. Carpeted panel folds down to reveal. Same thing on the left side has the spare tire in it. -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:41 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 17:56:11 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > >> I think the price is lower, looks decent >> >> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/02-mercedes-wagon-e320/6758490073.html > > I'm confused where the last picture > https://images.craigslist.org/00F0F_5OdzKbEiCmG_1200x900.jpg > was taken and what, besides a First Aid Kit, it shows. > > Anyone have any ideas? > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wagon For Someone
Nice, 4Matic, too. Might have to go look at this… -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > > https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/2000-mercedes-wagon/6765861875.html > > Rick > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This wagon again
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 17:56:11 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > I think the price is lower, looks decent > > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/02-mercedes-wagon-e320/6758490073.html I'm confused where the last picture https://images.craigslist.org/00F0F_5OdzKbEiCmG_1200x900.jpg was taken and what, besides a First Aid Kit, it shows. Anyone have any ideas? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wagon For Someone
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 16:27:47 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > I deeply appreciate the fine work that went into creating these sorts > of things, and I really enjoy looking at them in detail to see how the > builder made certain joints or applied marquetry to enhance a part of > the design. >From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquetry: Marquetry (also spelled as marqueterie; from the French marqueter, to varigate) is the art and craft of applying pieces of veneer to a structure to form decorative patterns, designs or pictures. The technique may be applied to case furniture or even seat furniture, to decorative small objects with smooth, veneerable surfaces or to freestanding pictorial panels appreciated in their own right. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Could be a polished turd
Looking at the rockers in front of the rear wheel looks like rust could be hiding. Interior looks like some sort of cheap aftermarket material. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 4:52 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Rear tires and stance look very weird in that first pic. Probably a cheap > respray at some point > > >> On 12/8/18 5:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> The stance of the car in the picture of the passenger side looks weird. >> These are a blast to drive when set up properly. ON’t pass many gas >> stations, but the smile factor is pretty high. If it checks out the price >> is pretty much in line with the market. >> >> -D >> >> >>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> 1971 Mercedes 250c >>> >>> https://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/d/1971-mercedes-250c/6767117800.html >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The pnp 116.
Yeah, well don’t worry about your job, I’m sure as heck not getting into the tax business. I just realized a few years ago that the hassle of donations wasn’t really worthwhile any more. I’m lucky if I get remotely close to the standard deduction. Although I do donate heavily to the United Way at work - but I also specify where my money goes - to a woman’s and children’s shelter in Tampa the wife and I have supported for many years. -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 5:53 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > Well, if his tax bracket was in the 30s, he'd have gotten $3k+ for a $10k > deduction. > And thanks for pointing out that up to $500 in donations of personal property > still require zero documentation, I should have said that too. > > Mitch. > > >> On December 8, 2018 at 5:44 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> And the worst part of the whole thing is that even if he claimed $10k he >> only reduced his AGI by that amount. From a tax standpoint I can't see >> where he would have gained a whole lot. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] This wagon again
I think the price is lower, looks decent https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/02-mercedes-wagon-e320/6758490073.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The pnp 116.
Well, if his tax bracket was in the 30s, he'd have gotten $3k+ for a $10k deduction. And thanks for pointing out that up to $500 in donations of personal property still require zero documentation, I should have said that too. Mitch. > On December 8, 2018 at 5:44 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > And the worst part of the whole thing is that even if he claimed $10k he only > reduced his AGI by that amount. From a tax standpoint I can't see where he > would have gained a whole lot. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Could be a polished turd
Rear tires and stance look very weird in that first pic. Probably a cheap respray at some point On 12/8/18 5:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: The stance of the car in the picture of the passenger side looks weird. These are a blast to drive when set up properly. ON’t pass many gas stations, but the smile factor is pretty high. If it checks out the price is pretty much in line with the market. -D On Dec 8, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: 1971 Mercedes 250c https://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/d/1971-mercedes-250c/6767117800.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The pnp 116.
And the worst part of the whole thing is that even if he claimed $10k he only reduced his AGI by that amount. From a tax standpoint I can't see where he would have gained a whole lot. -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 5:39 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > Scammers like him are the reason why we now need disposition paperwork from > the charitable organization to claim the donation deduction. He gave the org > $100, he deducts $100 under the current rules. > Mitch. > > >> On December 8, 2018 at 5:08 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> he was in a high enough income bracket that the deduction was more >> valuable than the car, and by advertising it for 3x market, he had >> "proof" of its (3x) value for the IUncle's Rcollection Sagency. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The pnp 116.
This guy with the 200D was in 2001. The deductions were ok then. It is still the way many survivors get rid of mom or dad's "old car." Call em up, they tow it off. Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 12/8/18 4:39 PM: Yeah, Mitch will probably chime in here, but the deduction thing hasn’t been worthwhile for some years. Unless you stick to below $500 (I believe) you’ve got to have some sort of documented, as in a professional appraisal, proof of the market value of the item. As for the “donate your car” thing, the charity takes the car, give you a receipt for it, and gets 30 days or so to dispose of it. When they sell it they turn around and give you receipt for the value of the sale, possibly deducting some of their costs from this, too. It’s pretty clear cut and as far as I know there are no (legal) ways around this any more. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Could be a polished turd
The stance of the car in the picture of the passenger side looks weird. These are a blast to drive when set up properly. ON’t pass many gas stations, but the smile factor is pretty high. If it checks out the price is pretty much in line with the market. -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > 1971 Mercedes 250c > > https://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/d/1971-mercedes-250c/6767117800.html > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The pnp 116.
Scammers like him are the reason why we now need disposition paperwork from the charitable organization to claim the donation deduction. He gave the org $100, he deducts $100 under the current rules. Mitch. > On December 8, 2018 at 5:08 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > he was in a high enough income bracket that the deduction was more > valuable than the car, and by advertising it for 3x market, he had > "proof" of its (3x) value for the IUncle's Rcollection Sagency. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The pnp 116.
Yeah, Mitch will probably chime in here, but the deduction thing hasn’t been worthwhile for some years. Unless you stick to below $500 (I believe) you’ve got to have some sort of documented, as in a professional appraisal, proof of the market value of the item. As for the “donate your car” thing, the charity takes the car, give you a receipt for it, and gets 30 days or so to dispose of it. When they sell it they turn around and give you receipt for the value of the sale, possibly deducting some of their costs from this, too. It’s pretty clear cut and as far as I know there are no (legal) ways around this any more. -D On Dec 8, 2018, at 5:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > The deduction thing really does not work anymore. They changed it several > years ago to where you can only decide what it actually sells for. Before > people would value them high and could deduct that amount regardless of what > it sold for at auction > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 8, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 12/8/18 3:41 PM: >>> I actually thought about that as I need a rear control arm and do not want >>> to make one of my parts cars non-movable and might as well grab axles while >>> I am there if they are good. I did get a look under the car and there is >>> no rust there either. Quite sad. This was one hell of a nice car. I still >>> can't figure out how it made it to the pnp. >> Owner kicked the bucket. Kids in their 60s 0r 70s didn't want to mess with >> "just and old car" so it was donated to some group. Said group sends em to >> the crusher for $100 or whatever. >> >> When I was looking for parts for #1 son's 200D, some guy in MN had a really >> nice signal red 200D for sale but he wanted something like 3x market price >> for it, and of course it would not sell. I talked to him a couple times, >> but he would not budge. The third time I called, he said he donated it. I >> asked for the organization, then called them. They said they sold it for >> scrap. I was very POd. I go them to tell me the name of the junkyard. >> Called them and they said "oh yeah, we crushed that a couple weeks ago." >> It was a crying shame. I woulda paid him market price for it, but not 3x >> market. >> >> he was in a high enough income bracket that the deduction was more valuable >> than the car, and by advertising it for 3x market, he had "proof" of its >> (3x) value for the IUncle's Rcollection Sagency. >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Could be a polished turd
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
> ROGER wrote: > As to deer, just a suggestion. I grew up and learned to drive > "up North" and currently drive in the South. When learning up > North, the main issue was to constantly scan the sides of the > road, peripheral vision is a real benefit. That is the first step. Then, the most effective reaction is to sound the horn. And not a polite "toot, toot" but push the button and keep pushing until the risk is over. At the same time, slow down. And don't keep watching the deer you spotted. Very often there are more around and any that you see you have already seen and the _unseen_ ones are the most surprising. This is based on many, many miles of driving in rural deer country. So while I have impacted many deer, the one that got this wagon is the only contact in the last decade or so that I have used the horn. There have been at least a dozen situations that could have easily included impact. Of course, I can't say what would have really happened. In urban and suburban, the horn sounding may be an issue. Use at your own risk. *smiles* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The pnp 116.
The deduction thing really does not work anymore. They changed it several years ago to where you can only decide what it actually sells for. Before people would value them high and could deduct that amount regardless of what it sold for at auction Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 12/8/18 3:41 PM: >> I actually thought about that as I need a rear control arm and do not want >> to make one of my parts cars non-movable and might as well grab axles while >> I am there if they are good. I did get a look under the car and there is no >> rust there either. Quite sad. This was one hell of a nice car. I still >> can't figure out how it made it to the pnp. > Owner kicked the bucket. Kids in their 60s 0r 70s didn't want to mess with > "just and old car" so it was donated to some group. Said group sends em to > the crusher for $100 or whatever. > > When I was looking for parts for #1 son's 200D, some guy in MN had a really > nice signal red 200D for sale but he wanted something like 3x market price > for it, and of course it would not sell. I talked to him a couple times, > but he would not budge. The third time I called, he said he donated it. I > asked for the organization, then called them. They said they sold it for > scrap. I was very POd. I go them to tell me the name of the junkyard. > Called them and they said "oh yeah, we crushed that a couple weeks ago." It > was a crying shame. I woulda paid him market price for it, but not 3x > market. > > he was in a high enough income bracket that the deduction was more valuable > than the car, and by advertising it for 3x market, he had "proof" of its (3x) > value for the IUncle's Rcollection Sagency. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The pnp 116.
Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 12/8/18 3:41 PM: I actually thought about that as I need a rear control arm and do not want to make one of my parts cars non-movable and might as well grab axles while I am there if they are good. I did get a look under the car and there is no rust there either. Quite sad. This was one hell of a nice car. I still can't figure out how it made it to the pnp. Owner kicked the bucket. Kids in their 60s 0r 70s didn't want to mess with "just and old car" so it was donated to some group. Said group sends em to the crusher for $100 or whatever. When I was looking for parts for #1 son's 200D, some guy in MN had a really nice signal red 200D for sale but he wanted something like 3x market price for it, and of course it would not sell. I talked to him a couple times, but he would not budge. The third time I called, he said he donated it. I asked for the organization, then called them. They said they sold it for scrap. I was very POd. I go them to tell me the name of the junkyard. Called them and they said "oh yeah, we crushed that a couple weeks ago." It was a crying shame. I woulda paid him market price for it, but not 3x market. he was in a high enough income bracket that the deduction was more valuable than the car, and by advertising it for 3x market, he had "proof" of its (3x) value for the IUncle's Rcollection Sagency. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The pnp 116.
I actually thought about that as I need a rear control arm and do not want to make one of my parts cars non-movable and might as well grab axles while I am there if they are good. I did get a look under the car and there is no rust there either. Quite sad. This was one hell of a nice car. I still can't figure out how it made it to the pnp. On 12/8/2018 3:16 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes wrote: Kaleb, If you go back, could you check the condition of the rear axles, boots, etc.? My 80 300SD will need those before I start using it again. The last time I could find someone selling them, they wanted a small fortune and then I'd still have to pay my Indie to install them. Thanks, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The pnp 116.
Roger, The guys in Colorado will probably rebuild yours for a couple hundred dollars apiece. You would have to pay shipping, but they would be as new and OE. -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 4:16 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kaleb, > > If you go back, could you check the condition of the rear axles, boots, > etc.? My 80 300SD will need those before I start using it again. The last > time I could find someone selling them, they wanted a small fortune and then > I'd still have to pay my Indie to install them. > > Thanks, > > Roger > > Roger Hale > Dinnerware Classics, Inc. > Monroe, Ga. > 770-267-0850 > www.dinnerwareclassics.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Roger, I thought your 300SD was pretty much a daily driver? Is that not the case? I’m a little curious about something, as I was thinking about you the other day. There’s a high end resale furniture shop that I frequent here, since I used to build custom furniture when I had the space and equipment to do so. I like to go in and look over the pieces they take in, which are sometimes very unusual and unique pieces from estates and other such sources. I deeply appreciate the fine work that went into creating these sorts of things, and I really enjoy looking at them in detail to see how the builder made certain joints or applied marquetry to enhance a part of the design. While I was speaking with one of the owners as I walked through the store with them, they were bemoaning the fact that furniture such as china cabinets and sideboards were falling by the wayside and starting to disappear from a lot of furniture builder’s catalogs. They seem to think that the current generations no longer place any value on such legacy possessions such as the family silver or china, or have any desire to own furniture such as this. They say that more often than not, younger clients are coming in and buying dining room furniture and leaving the china cabinets behind. Since you deal in china, I was wondering if you are seeing a similar decrease in interest in such things? On a related note, I was just looking at our family silver that was handed down to me. We use it when we have family gatherings or guests, but I can see why others might not place a lot of value on such things. For that matter, I was also looking at the tea service I gave the wife for an anniversary gift many, many years ago. It has almost no value on the market these days - not that we would ever sell it. -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 4:07 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes > wrote: > > Sorry Mitch, but I didn't tag you to this thread. I merely started it as > somewhat sad and humorous regarding some of the topics that arise. Similar > to the other list where they get off on topics like wine tasting, cheese > favorites, etc. Sometimes you think you are on one of the cooking networks. > I realize we are all getting older so there isn't a lot of MB work, etc. to > discuss. As to me, my 80 and 83 and currently sitting for awhile. I will > probably sell the 83 300D and at some point have some repairs made to the 80 > 300SD and put it back on the road. > > As to deer, just a suggestion. I grew up and learned to drive "up North" and > currently drive in the South. When learning up North, the main issue was to > constantly scan the sides of the road, peripheral vision is a real benefit. > Now I continue to do the same in the South. I've been lucky having driven > for over 50 years and never hit a deer. I just hope to stay lucky. > > Best Wishes, > > Roger > > Roger Hale > Dinnerware Classics, Inc. > Monroe, Ga. > 770-267-0850 > www.dinnerwareclassics.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The pnp 116.
Kaleb, If you go back, could you check the condition of the rear axles, boots, etc.? My 80 300SD will need those before I start using it again. The last time I could find someone selling them, they wanted a small fortune and then I'd still have to pay my Indie to install them. Thanks, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Sorry Mitch, but I didn't tag you to this thread. I merely started it as somewhat sad and humorous regarding some of the topics that arise. Similar to the other list where they get off on topics like wine tasting, cheese favorites, etc. Sometimes you think you are on one of the cooking networks. I realize we are all getting older so there isn't a lot of MB work, etc. to discuss. As to me, my 80 and 83 and currently sitting for awhile. I will probably sell the 83 300D and at some point have some repairs made to the 80 300SD and put it back on the road. As to deer, just a suggestion. I grew up and learned to drive "up North" and currently drive in the South. When learning up North, the main issue was to constantly scan the sides of the road, peripheral vision is a real benefit. Now I continue to do the same in the South. I've been lucky having driven for over 50 years and never hit a deer. I just hope to stay lucky. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Heartwarming Tale For Dimitri
It's amusing how some people feel so threatened by the humble Prius, which just runs and runs for years with little maintainence, that they write baseless reams of criticism even though they know little about it. I sometimes print out these diatribes and show them to fellow Prius owners at the Wine and Cheese bar; much to their own amusement. Gerry P.S. Just wait until Hillary and Bernie become president and VP respectively with Al Gore head of the EPA. They'll be lining up at the crusher with their Belchfire Many Cylinders. [:o) Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > When I attend meetings of the socialist communist worker's welfare cheaters > party in downtown D.C. the members are 99 percent Mercedes owners. I feel > very much at home. > > > > On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 1:16 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > It’s funny about Pious drivers, they span the range of politics and > > religion. I have friends who have them who are hard core Trumpers and some > > who are hard core Bernie/H->illary! folks. Religion all over the map. Some > > are hard core greenies and some just like the techno idea and fuel > > efficiency and such. I guess it becomes like a game. Although one day I was > > driving back from a meeting in Columbia and got passed by my friend who ran > > the local conservation league, greener than green, was going about 80-85 in > > his, go figure. I mentioned it later, giving him some sh*t, he said he > > makes up for it in town when he rides his bike to and from work. Makes some > > sense I guess. > > > > One friend had Benzes forever, gave his 124 to his grandson and far as i > > know still has his 66 230SL, last i talked to him he had bought a Pious > > after the 124 and loved it. > > > > The ones who flaunt their liberal sensibilities (I’m better than you are!) > > kinda piss me off but to each his own I guess. I pass them in the diesels, > > haha now in the V12! Interestingly the V12 has this instantaneous fuel > > mileage gauge front and center above the speedo, I guess the idea being to > > TRY to be halfway responsible... > > > > --FT > > Sent from iPhone > > > > > On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:21 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > > > I thought Priapism drivers were atheist or agnostic. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > >> On Dec 7, 2018, at 8:32 PM, Dwight Giles > > wrote: > > >> > > >> EXCELLENT moose Friday story. I agree with Dimitri. A lot or people,at > > my church drive them so I call them Pious rather than Pissus as we used to > > call them on this list. > > >> > > >> Dwight Giles Jr. > > >> Wickford RI > > >> > > >> On Dec 7, 2018 8:24 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" > > wrote: > > >> Made my night! I was hoping Mr. Moose would have totally wrecked the > > POS Priapism. > > >> > > >> Sent from my iPhone > > >> > > >>> On Dec 7, 2018, at 7:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> AND it's Friday. > > >>> > > >>> > > https://rare.us/rare-animals/theres-nothing-on-earth-this-moose-hates-more-than-this-prius > > >>> > > >>> Rick > > >>> ___ > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >>> > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- arche...@embarqmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] more pnp
I was looking at inventory at various nearby LKQ locations and Wichita has a 115 with what appears to be a great condition green interior. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I bought this SL600
Here’s the sticker they started putting on the radiator fan shroud in the mid 90s: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-Genuine-AMG-Mobil-1-Oil-Sticker-Label-Decal-NEW-/253165261423?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10#viTabs_0 -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 12:28 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > Oops, that's a 2005 M275 V12, not the M120. > Oh, well, carry on, nothing to see here... > >> On December 8, 2018 at 12:25 PM Mitch Haley wrote: >> >> That Bobistheoilguy link I gave earlier is a used oil analysis of 0W40 in a >> 1990s V12. Looked very good to me. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Heartwarming Tale For Dimitri
I had a friend who bought one of the first Prii. She’s about as environmentally conscious as one of those kids who drive the big diesel trucks that roll coal. Her husband is a bean counter, and he bought it based on the numbers. What I got a kick out of was that the battery puked on it before their loan was up. I think they got quoted over $2k to replace it. I gave the bean counter husband a load of crap about it after that. I think she drives a CPO E class now. So much for depreciation! -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 1:15 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > It’s funny about Pious drivers, they span the range of politics and religion. > I have friends who have them who are hard core Trumpers and some who are hard > core Bernie/H->illary! folks. Religion all over the map. Some are hard core > greenies and some just like the techno idea and fuel efficiency and such. I > guess it becomes like a game. Although one day I was driving back from a > meeting in Columbia and got passed by my friend who ran the local > conservation league, greener than green, was going about 80-85 in his, go > figure. I mentioned it later, giving him some sh*t, he said he makes up for > it in town when he rides his bike to and from work. Makes some sense I guess. > > One friend had Benzes forever, gave his 124 to his grandson and far as i know > still has his 66 230SL, last i talked to him he had bought a Pious after the > 124 and loved it. > > The ones who flaunt their liberal sensibilities (I’m better than you are!) > kinda piss me off but to each his own I guess. I pass them in the diesels, > haha now in the V12! Interestingly the V12 has this instantaneous fuel > mileage gauge front and center above the speedo, I guess the idea being to > TRY to be halfway responsible... > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Bravo! Glad you've got that back on the road, that's a nice car. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On December 8, 2018 11:20:55 AM EST, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: >I finally finished this last night. What a pain. I had to take the >alternator out of the car to get the remains of the pulley off. Had to >remove the pipe coming out of the turbo going to the intercooler to get >it out, which was ok but getting it back in was a huge ordeal. Very >tight in there and twisty all working from underneath. I finally >figured it out. > >The hub of the pulley was munched to where I had to take the grinder to >the front end of it to get some clean splines to put the tool in there. >(Max loaned me the tool, yay Max!). Used the HF electric impact wrench >and it spun right off, I couldn’t budge it with the hand wrenches. The >new one went on easily. Car back on the road. > >This seems like a really dumb idea having this design with this weird >pulley but it’s guess the Benz engineers knew what they were doing... >the part was cheap enough but R&R was hugely unpleasant. > >FYI the tool has two parts, one is a splined-end rod about 4in long >that fits in a splined hole in the shaft (it has a 1/2in drive end) >then the other is a splined inverted “socket” that slides over the rod >and into the pulley hub, it has like a 15mm “nut” end, you use them to >spin the shaft while holding the pulley. > >Next time it will be a lot easier... > >--FT >Sent from iPhone >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Heartwarming Tale For Dimitri
When I attend meetings of the socialist communist worker's welfare cheaters party in downtown D.C. the members are 99 percent Mercedes owners. I feel very much at home. On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 1:16 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It’s funny about Pious drivers, they span the range of politics and > religion. I have friends who have them who are hard core Trumpers and some > who are hard core Bernie/H->illary! folks. Religion all over the map. Some > are hard core greenies and some just like the techno idea and fuel > efficiency and such. I guess it becomes like a game. Although one day I was > driving back from a meeting in Columbia and got passed by my friend who ran > the local conservation league, greener than green, was going about 80-85 in > his, go figure. I mentioned it later, giving him some sh*t, he said he > makes up for it in town when he rides his bike to and from work. Makes some > sense I guess. > > One friend had Benzes forever, gave his 124 to his grandson and far as i > know still has his 66 230SL, last i talked to him he had bought a Pious > after the 124 and loved it. > > The ones who flaunt their liberal sensibilities (I’m better than you are!) > kinda piss me off but to each his own I guess. I pass them in the diesels, > haha now in the V12! Interestingly the V12 has this instantaneous fuel > mileage gauge front and center above the speedo, I guess the idea being to > TRY to be halfway responsible... > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:21 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > I thought Priapism drivers were atheist or agnostic. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Dec 7, 2018, at 8:32 PM, Dwight Giles > wrote: > >> > >> EXCELLENT moose Friday story. I agree with Dimitri. A lot or people,at > my church drive them so I call them Pious rather than Pissus as we used to > call them on this list. > >> > >> Dwight Giles Jr. > >> Wickford RI > >> > >> On Dec 7, 2018 8:24 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> Made my night! I was hoping Mr. Moose would have totally wrecked the > POS Priapism. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Dec 7, 2018, at 7:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> AND it's Friday. > >>> > >>> > https://rare.us/rare-animals/theres-nothing-on-earth-this-moose-hates-more-than-this-prius > >>> > >>> Rick > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Angie's car gets an upgrade, then an oops
On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 12:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Officer friendly proved true to his name and let her go with a warning, I > waited awhile before ribbing her about it... > -Curt > And lived to tell us about it - impressive! -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Angie's car gets an upgrade, then an oops
Angie's car was up for its yearly inspection a couple weeks ago but had the check engine light on.Turns out VW put a sensor on the turbo to figure the turbo actuator (variable vanes instead of a wastegate) position. The sensor is really redundant, you know the position by knowing the output pressure of the turbo and they fail with some regularity. I guess at 200,000 miles I can't really complain.The problem is the sensor isn't available separately, you need to replace the whole turbo. Instead you can get it tuned out, which is to say you just tell the computer "nothing to see here". Thats about $100, way better than an $800 turbo.Well for $300 you can do a stage 1 tune which takes you from 100hp to 124 (227#ft) and includes the turbo fix and EGR delete for free so I opted for that. An '05 Golf TDI is already pretty speedy but with the stage 1 tune its really speedy, like pay attention to what you're doing speedy. Pretty fun and it now passes inspection. Last week, coming home from game night I'm dozing in the passenger seat and notice the blue lights of officer friendly. Apparently we were doing 52 in a 40 zone. I had mentioned to my dear wife in the past that I thought she'd started to get a little speedy, that was met with a "Mind your own business" kind of response. Sitting there waiting for the officer neither of us said a word but I could hear "You just keep your %&*%!%$ mouth shut bub", she didn't need to say a word. Officer friendly proved true to his name and let her go with a warning, I waited awhile before ribbing her about it... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Heartwarming Tale For Dimitri
It’s funny about Pious drivers, they span the range of politics and religion. I have friends who have them who are hard core Trumpers and some who are hard core Bernie/H->illary! folks. Religion all over the map. Some are hard core greenies and some just like the techno idea and fuel efficiency and such. I guess it becomes like a game. Although one day I was driving back from a meeting in Columbia and got passed by my friend who ran the local conservation league, greener than green, was going about 80-85 in his, go figure. I mentioned it later, giving him some sh*t, he said he makes up for it in town when he rides his bike to and from work. Makes some sense I guess. One friend had Benzes forever, gave his 124 to his grandson and far as i know still has his 66 230SL, last i talked to him he had bought a Pious after the 124 and loved it. The ones who flaunt their liberal sensibilities (I’m better than you are!) kinda piss me off but to each his own I guess. I pass them in the diesels, haha now in the V12! Interestingly the V12 has this instantaneous fuel mileage gauge front and center above the speedo, I guess the idea being to TRY to be halfway responsible... --FT Sent from iPhone > On Dec 7, 2018, at 9:21 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes > wrote: > > I thought Priapism drivers were atheist or agnostic. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 7, 2018, at 8:32 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: >> >> EXCELLENT moose Friday story. I agree with Dimitri. A lot or people,at my >> church drive them so I call them Pious rather than Pissus as we used to >> call them on this list. >> >> Dwight Giles Jr. >> Wickford RI >> >> On Dec 7, 2018 8:24 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" wrote: >> Made my night! I was hoping Mr. Moose would have totally wrecked the POS >> Priapism. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Dec 7, 2018, at 7:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> AND it's Friday. >>> >>> https://rare.us/rare-animals/theres-nothing-on-earth-this-moose-hates-more-than-this-prius >>> >>> Rick >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair
Driver's side or PS? My driver's side does the same thing but the PS remains dry (where the battery tray is located) on my W123 300TD wagon. The w/s and rubber seal have been replaced but it still gets wet via the firewall or fender sea,. I replaced the front driver's side seal and cracked grommet so that's not the source. On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 9:41 AM Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: > Yes front and rear foot wells get wet but water puddles in rear. Front > carpet has rotted now. Will need to replace. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 8, 2018, at 9:06 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > So the front footwell gets wet too but it accumulates in the back so is > more noticeable > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > > Original message From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-12-07 5:17 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Jim Cathey < > jim.cathey...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair > > W123 battery in the same place as W201 and W126, on the engine firewall. > > > > Water flows downhill, the rear footwells are the lowest point in the car. > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More Sickening
Yeah, my major DIY efforts are in the rear view mirror. On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 9:08 AM tyee165 via Mercedes wrote: > I truly doubt he could do it > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > Original message From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-12-07 6:32 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Mitch Haley < > mi...@mitchellhaley.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] More Sickening > > > On December 7, 2018 at 5:26 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > Have you any idea at all of how much time and effort it would take to > > put that car back together? > > I think Andy said six months of weekends. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The pnp 116.
I go there at opening and proceeded to strip that car down. It is almost just a shell at this point. I did not pull the door panels but I probably should go back and get the door panels and window regulators. I did end up with a recently looking rebuilt hirshman antenna, as well as a rebuilt acc amp with a date of 2017 on it. I should probably go back and pull the engine also. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Heartwarming Tale For Dimitri
> On December 8, 2018 at 12:54 PM OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > All I > can deduce is that those emission controls actually worked. EGR introduced in the 1960s, I'm guessing didn't do much more than reduce power and increase 'carbon emissions'. Post combustion devices like air pumps had to have helped somewhat. Catalytic converters introduced in the mid 1970s helped a lot with the carbon monoxide and hydrocarbons, but only the most expensive cats did anything to oxides of nitrogen, which I believe make the visible smog. Constant improvement in fuel management from K Jetronic in the Euro cars of the mid 1970s, through the direct injection systems of today, yeah, that's made a lot of difference. Less fuel + better combustion = less smog. The unanswerable question is how much quicker did those gains come due to government demands, and how much more did the governments make it all cost us? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More Moose Day Surprises
My great uncle Paris used to make "Moosesquitos" from moose poop, partridge feathers and porcupine quills. As a little kid I thought they were brilliant. -Curt On Friday, December 7, 2018, 10:26:24 PM EST, Dwight Giles wrote: OMG. Curt you can do this,at hunting camp week. Dimitri maybe you can add a new gallery in Brunswick that Curt can supply. Even as a frequent visitor to Maine, I will pass. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Dec 7, 2018 10:11 PM, "Rick Knoble via Mercedes" wrote: https://www.localnews8.com/new s/odd-news/woman-makes-art-fro m-moose-poop-no-really-/800346 970 Rick __ _ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archiv e/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailm an/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz. com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Heartwarming Tale For Dimitri
On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 7:17 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Most 73-74 land yachts did no better than 10 mpg, up from 18, due to all > the gooberment mandated "improvements." > I also scoffed at the emissions reduction mandates that increased the amount of fuel burned, figuring that the net result was more pollution, not less. I happened to visit the East coast for the first time in the early '70s - you could see the brown haze/smog over the area from 50, if not 100, miles away (driving). It was really amazing how bad it was. Then I returned in the late 1990's when our first daughter went to NYU. I couldn't believe how clear the air was, very little smog was evident. All I can deduce is that those emission controls actually worked. -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I bought this SL600
Oops, that's a 2005 M275 V12, not the M120. Oh, well, carry on, nothing to see here... > On December 8, 2018 at 12:25 PM Mitch Haley wrote: > > That Bobistheoilguy link I gave earlier is a used oil analysis of 0W40 in a > 1990s V12. Looked very good to me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I bought this SL600
> On December 8, 2018 at 12:17 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > Appears basic M1 10W40 would be fine year round. Manual was not specific in > regard to a specific weight. I put M1 10W40 in my 1997 S420, but I'm thinking of just putting 0W40 Euro formula in it like I run in my M112s. That Bobistheoilguy link I gave earlier is a used oil analysis of 0W40 in a 1990s V12. Looked very good to me. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I bought this SL600
Not sure if I posted it but I found an MB oil chart maybe in some Benzworld forum that basically said a whole range of oils would work, up to10W60 which is what the fancy stuff in the trunk is. There was some temperature dependency, the higher weight stuff for warmer temps, which is summer around here. Appears basic M1 10W40 would be fine year round. Manual was not specific in regard to a specific weight. I did dump in a quart of M1 10Wsomething I had to bring it up a bit on the dipstick to the middle of the range. I’ll have to get some filters and 3gal (!!!) of oil for it. Maybe I need to hit El Mercado de Wal soon. I didn’t see a sticker in the engine bay. Might not be in the earlier cars? --FT Sent from iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yeah, I mentioned that early on in the thread. There’s probably a sticker in > the engine compartment that says the same. They put them in later model V12s > among other cars… > > I just bought a couple of 5 quart jugs at Wally World for under $20/each, too. > > -D > > >> On Dec 8, 2018, at 11:35 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> Looks like M1 0W40 works OK in those: >> https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4870770/mobil-1-0w40-4945-mi-mercedes-s600-m275#Post4870770 >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I bought this SL600
Yeah, I mentioned that early on in the thread. There’s probably a sticker in the engine compartment that says the same. They put them in later model V12s among other cars… I just bought a couple of 5 quart jugs at Wally World for under $20/each, too. -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 11:35 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Looks like M1 0W40 works OK in those: > https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4870770/mobil-1-0w40-4945-mi-mercedes-s600-m275#Post4870770 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I bought this SL600
Looks like M1 0W40 works OK in those: https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4870770/mobil-1-0w40-4945-mi-mercedes-s600-m275#Post4870770 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I finally finished this last night. What a pain. I had to take the alternator out of the car to get the remains of the pulley off. Had to remove the pipe coming out of the turbo going to the intercooler to get it out, which was ok but getting it back in was a huge ordeal. Very tight in there and twisty all working from underneath. I finally figured it out. The hub of the pulley was munched to where I had to take the grinder to the front end of it to get some clean splines to put the tool in there. (Max loaned me the tool, yay Max!). Used the HF electric impact wrench and it spun right off, I couldn’t budge it with the hand wrenches. The new one went on easily. Car back on the road. This seems like a really dumb idea having this design with this weird pulley but it’s guess the Benz engineers knew what they were doing... the part was cheap enough but R&R was hugely unpleasant. FYI the tool has two parts, one is a splined-end rod about 4in long that fits in a splined hole in the shaft (it has a 1/2in drive end) then the other is a splined inverted “socket” that slides over the rod and into the pulley hub, it has like a 15mm “nut” end, you use them to spin the shaft while holding the pulley. Next time it will be a lot easier... --FT Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300CD door handle
Yeah I have some extras of those I pulled from junkyard cars and the 420 SEL I knackered and maybe a new one somewhere in the stash. I don’t recall it being very much $. Is the CD version any different from the sedans? I think the driver side in this CD I have is broken too, was gonna pull one out of the rusty TD which I replaced at some point so it is “new”. The SEC is broken too, i threw the SEL pull in there to replace at some point. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes > wrote: > > I bought one a few years ago. It was OEM, not OE but otherwise identical and > fairly inexpensive. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Release latch. 87 American dollars,from Classic Center. >> >> Dwight Giles Jr. >> Wickford RI >> >> On Dec 7, 2018 10:46 PM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Is it the metal release latch or the armrest door pull thing? >> >> --FT >> Sent from iPhone >> >>> On Dec 7, 2018, at 10:34 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> I just bought an Inside door handle from Classic Center for my driver >>> door. Any advice on easiest way to change it out. Current one is broken >> off >>> st the top. >>> >>> Dwight Giles Jr. >>> Wickford RI >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300CD door handle
I bought one a few years ago. It was OEM, not OE but otherwise identical and fairly inexpensive. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > Release latch. 87 American dollars,from Classic Center. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Dec 7, 2018 10:46 PM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Is it the metal release latch or the armrest door pull thing? > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > >> On Dec 7, 2018, at 10:34 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> I just bought an Inside door handle from Classic Center for my driver >> door. Any advice on easiest way to change it out. Current one is broken > off >> st the top. >> >> Dwight Giles Jr. >> Wickford RI >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300CD door handle
Release latch. 87 American dollars,from Classic Center. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Dec 7, 2018 10:46 PM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Is it the metal release latch or the armrest door pull thing? --FT Sent from iPhone > On Dec 7, 2018, at 10:34 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > I just bought an Inside door handle from Classic Center for my driver > door. Any advice on easiest way to change it out. Current one is broken off > st the top. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair
Yes front and rear foot wells get wet but water puddles in rear. Front carpet has rotted now. Will need to replace. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2018, at 9:06 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes > wrote: > > So the front footwell gets wet too but it accumulates in the back so is more > noticeable > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > Original message From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes > Date: 2018-12-07 5:17 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes > Discussion List Cc: Jim Cathey > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair > W123 battery in the same place as W201 and W126, on the engine firewall. > > Water flows downhill, the rear footwells are the lowest point in the car. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More Sickening
I truly doubt he could do it Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes Date: 2018-12-07 6:32 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Mitch Haley Subject: Re: [MBZ] More Sickening > On December 7, 2018 at 5:26 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Have you any idea at all of how much time and effort it would take to > put that car back together? I think Andy said six months of weekends. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair
So the front footwell gets wet too but it accumulates in the back so is more noticeable Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes Date: 2018-12-07 5:17 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Jim Cathey Subject: Re: [MBZ] Under battery rust repair W123 battery in the same place as W201 and W126, on the engine firewall. Water flows downhill, the rear footwells are the lowest point in the car. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Heartwarming Tale For Dimitri
I’m with Mitch. I’m not hung up on mpg, but when I have the ability to improve it with my driving habits or otherwise I’ll do it. When I was driving the Ford Fusion hybrid when the S420 got totaled, they had a little thing in the instrument panel that showed a tree with leaves on it. That is, you got “leafs” as you drove the car more efficiently. So now it’s a challenge for me. After driving the car for 2-1/2 weeks I think I put 10 gallons of gas in it and the “tree” was pretty well “leafed” out. I joked with the wife about how if she had a car like that the tree would just be a bunch of dead sticks…. -D > On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Back in 1971 when I bought my first MB, cars got 17-18 MPG if you drove for > mileage. My 67 Chevelle got 10, no matter what I did to try to improve > mileage. My 66 Bronco (acquired in 1973) got 10, no matter what I did to > try to get better mileage. Gas was mostly 35.9¢ and Diesel 27.9 to 28.8¢/gal. > In this environment, my 190Dc and later 200D got 27 to 30 and as much as 35 > mpg. You can figger out what a savings that was. > > Later I had the wabbit at 50 mpg, the escort at 50-55 mpg and the quantum at > 45 mpg, loaded to the gills and going 75. In high MPG conditions it would > probably do 50-55 also. > I gave up the high mileage game when I got the first SDL. The speed and > comfort was amazing. The kids not only didn't complain about riding in it, > but enjoyed riding in the back seat. > > It was the reliability and MPG that sold many people on a MB Diesel in the > early 80s, after 15 yrs of detriot iron getting worse all the time. Most > 73-74 land yachts did no better than 10 mpg, up from 18, due to all the > gooberment mandated "improvements."I believe 1983 was the high point of > MB Diesel sales in the USA. That was when I went to a MBCA meeting in the > quad cities, and in place of all gassers with a couple Diesels, there was all > (mostly new) Diesels, with a couple gassers. [yes, I said 10 MPG, UP from > 18. That is goober-speak, reflecting the "improvements" mandated.] > > Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 12/8/18 6:52 AM: >> >> I'm not Pious about mpg but I do get an odd satisfaction from a vehicle that >> gives better than expected fuel economy. I loved my Saab 99, but it got >> 24mpg, didn't seem to matter much whether in town or open road, while my >> backup car, a $435 rusty POS 1980 Citation I bought in 1985 with 145,000 >> miles on it, would get 39 mpg indicated, 37 mpg actual, in rural driving in >> warm weather. The mpg was one reason I was fond of that Citation, another >> was its extreme utility, I could carry 1000lb of tools and tool cabinets in >> it and it never complained. Back when gas was 80-90 cents a gallon I never >> felt any pain filling up the Saab, but filling the Citation always felt >> good. Funny thing is, I have no idea what mpg I got in my 1975 Civic, other >> than it was not that good for a 1850lb car with a stratified charge engine, >> I'm guessing around 28-30mpg, the fault of the 2 speed semi auto trans no >> doubt. >> >> Now I play the 'how high can my mpg get' game with a 2016 Chevy Cruze. Last >> summer I went 630 miles on 12.6 gallons of gas. I bought a tuner for it >> Thanksgiving weekend, now I want to set up a manual mode for the auto >> transmission and see if I can hit 60mpg in the sort of 55mph driving that >> got 37 in the Citation 40 years ago. >> >> Mitch >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
Well, since Roger tagged me to this thread... I have a W163 that had been sitting for a few weeks. The previous owner sold it to State Farm after pasting a deer with the left front corner. I have no idea what happened to the venison. I replaced the radiator, headlight, hood/grille, and fender. Still need to replace the fog light, and the front bumper cover has cracks in it, but the cracks are no longer stuffed with deer hair. This weekend's projects include replacing 12 spark plugs and changing the oil. Mitch. > On December 7, 2018 at 11:06 PM fmiser via Mercedes > wrote: > I have a wagon that has been sitting for a few years. It was > taken out of active duty after a high-energy impact with a deer. > The venison is all gone, and I got the car back on the road a > month or so ago. Dan P. would be aghast at the fit and finish - > it's pretty ugly, and Dimitri would probably cry at the crooked > and twisted metal that's still there. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Heartwarming Tale For Dimitri
Back in 1971 when I bought my first MB, cars got 17-18 MPG if you drove for mileage. My 67 Chevelle got 10, no matter what I did to try to improve mileage. My 66 Bronco (acquired in 1973) got 10, no matter what I did to try to get better mileage. Gas was mostly 35.9¢ and Diesel 27.9 to 28.8¢/gal. In this environment, my 190Dc and later 200D got 27 to 30 and as much as 35 mpg. You can figger out what a savings that was. Later I had the wabbit at 50 mpg, the escort at 50-55 mpg and the quantum at 45 mpg, loaded to the gills and going 75. In high MPG conditions it would probably do 50-55 also. I gave up the high mileage game when I got the first SDL. The speed and comfort was amazing. The kids not only didn't complain about riding in it, but enjoyed riding in the back seat. It was the reliability and MPG that sold many people on a MB Diesel in the early 80s, after 15 yrs of detriot iron getting worse all the time. Most 73-74 land yachts did no better than 10 mpg, up from 18, due to all the gooberment mandated "improvements." I believe 1983 was the high point of MB Diesel sales in the USA. That was when I went to a MBCA meeting in the quad cities, and in place of all gassers with a couple Diesels, there was all (mostly new) Diesels, with a couple gassers. [yes, I said 10 MPG, UP from 18. That is goober-speak, reflecting the "improvements" mandated.] Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 12/8/18 6:52 AM: I'm not Pious about mpg but I do get an odd satisfaction from a vehicle that gives better than expected fuel economy. I loved my Saab 99, but it got 24mpg, didn't seem to matter much whether in town or open road, while my backup car, a $435 rusty POS 1980 Citation I bought in 1985 with 145,000 miles on it, would get 39 mpg indicated, 37 mpg actual, in rural driving in warm weather. The mpg was one reason I was fond of that Citation, another was its extreme utility, I could carry 1000lb of tools and tool cabinets in it and it never complained. Back when gas was 80-90 cents a gallon I never felt any pain filling up the Saab, but filling the Citation always felt good. Funny thing is, I have no idea what mpg I got in my 1975 Civic, other than it was not that good for a 1850lb car with a stratified charge engine, I'm guessing around 28-30mpg, the fault of the 2 speed semi auto trans no doubt. Now I play the 'how high can my mpg get' game with a 2016 Chevy Cruze. Last summer I went 630 miles on 12.6 gallons of gas. I bought a tuner for it Thanksgiving weekend, now I want to set up a manual mode for the auto transmission and see if I can hit 60mpg in the sort of 55mph driving that got 37 in the Citation 40 years ago. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Heartwarming Tale For Dimitri
> On December 7, 2018 at 9:26 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Good one! But some seem to be Pious about their gas mileage & thus earth > saving. I love parking my 300CD next to one of these. I'm not Pious about mpg but I do get an odd satisfaction from a vehicle that gives better than expected fuel economy. I loved my Saab 99, but it got 24mpg, didn't seem to matter much whether in town or open road, while my backup car, a $435 rusty POS 1980 Citation I bought in 1985 with 145,000 miles on it, would get 39 mpg indicated, 37 mpg actual, in rural driving in warm weather. The mpg was one reason I was fond of that Citation, another was its extreme utility, I could carry 1000lb of tools and tool cabinets in it and it never complained. Back when gas was 80-90 cents a gallon I never felt any pain filling up the Saab, but filling the Citation always felt good. Funny thing is, I have no idea what mpg I got in my 1975 Civic, other than it was not that good for a 1850lb car with a stratified charge engine, I'm guessing around 28-30mpg, the fault of the 2 speed semi auto trans no doubt. Now I play the 'how high can my mpg get' game with a 2016 Chevy Cruze. Last summer I went 630 miles on 12.6 gallons of gas. I bought a tuner for it Thanksgiving weekend, now I want to set up a manual mode for the auto transmission and see if I can hit 60mpg in the sort of 55mph driving that got 37 in the Citation 40 years ago. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Compost from road kill (Mitch Haley)
As Pierre often says to me, “We saved another one!!” This is a Good Thing. -D > On Dec 7, 2018, at 11:15 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Waytago!Glad the car is back on the road! > > Functional, is more important than appearance. > > Too bad more of us don't have Dimitri's talent! > > fmiser via Mercedes wrote on 12/7/18 10:06 PM: >> >> I have a wagon that has been sitting for a few years. It was >> taken out of active duty after a high-energy impact with a deer. >> The venison is all gone, and I got the car back on the road a >> month or so ago. Dan P. would be aghast at the fit and finish - >> it's pretty ugly, and Dimitri would probably cry at the crooked >> and twisted metal that's still there. >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300CD door handle
More specifically: 1.) Get a small flat bladed screwdriver. Pull out on the handle, and near the hinge of the handle use the screwdriver to pry the black plastic cover out of the frame. It has a little tab that hold the front edge of it in place, the back side of it (the side closest to the handle hinge) is held in with pressure. 2.) With the plastic cover removed, you’ll see a phillips head screw in the middle of the frame. Remove it. 3.) Pull out on the frame and handle and it will come loose from the door card. It will have a metal rod attached to the back of the handle. Pul the rod out of the hole in the handle and the handle will now be free. Reverse the procedure to install the new handle. I can recall doing this on pretty much every new W123 and W126 when I go it, since the driver’s door release handles were always worn out and sloppy. Might I ask what a new door handle costs these days? Just curious... -D > On Dec 7, 2018, at 11:04 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > If it is similar to a regular 123, there is one screw that holds it in. If > it has a plastic "pocket" under the latch, you need a sharp stick, or a small > screwdriver, etc to pull that out from its catches. Then you will see the > screw. Release rod is just held on with a clip. Easy! > > Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote on 12/7/18 9:34 PM: >> I just bought an Inside door handle from Classic Center for my driver >> door. Any advice on easiest way to change it out. Current one is broken off >> st the top. >> >> Dwight Giles Jr. >> Wickford RI >> _ > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
