Re: [MBZ] Masks

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I guess time is not of the essence in the upper levels of the public health 
community.  
For contrast, an Air Force mishap investigation had to be complete in 30 days.  
At least that was the rule when I was still in uniform.

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> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Allan Streib via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 4:15 PM
> To: G Mann via Mercedes 
> Cc: Allan Streib 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Masks
> 
> Six months is an eyeblink in normal infectious disease research.
> 
> At normal research pace, I doubt that's enough time to run a scientifically 
> valid
> experiment, write up the results, submit it for publication and have it
> reviewed.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> G Mann via Mercedes  writes:
> 
> > What impresses me most about covid 19, after now 6 months of endless
> > news broadcasts, information releases, and talk by "experts" is:
> >
> > How little we actually know about the disease, its origin, its short
> > term AND long term effects, and how to actually avoid or stop
> > spreading infections.
> >
> > Everyone has opinions.. few have anything that can be remotely called
> > hard fact.
> > Most who claim to have hard facts have been found to have BS and
> > speculation..
> > If ignorance is bliss... this must be the most blissful time in human
> > history..
> >
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Re: [MBZ] My New Acquisition

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 21:07:25 -0700 Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Looks like I need another female German name!

Helga

Emma

Ludmilla   :-)

Katerina

Kati



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Re: [MBZ] My New Acquisition

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Congratulations
Gertrude?

Rick
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[MBZ] My New Acquisition

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Hello everyone! The car is at home in the driveway thanks to a free AAA tow 
although I think she could have made it home under her own power! My friends 
and I got there, yanked out the dead group 49 battree, installed the new one I 
purchased from NAPA on the way and lit her off with barely a chirp of the 
starter  It vibrates due to bad motor mounts, but it runs on all 4!! The 
lady said that it got a new transmission last year, and by the way it shifts 
into reverse with only a half second delay, I believe it! Since there were no 
ominous noises in the drivetrain rolling it back and forth, we decided to take 
it around the block. It ran pretty well other than a harsh 1-2 shift, and it 
seemed to shift well into 3rd. The only sound I heard was one of the rear rotor 
back plates rubbing agains the rotor which must have been the “gnarly sound” 
she heard while driving during its last trip into town. I don’t hear any diff 
whining at 30MPH or under, but I’ll know more once we get her up to highway 
speed. Now, I really don’t want to part it out since it’s too good for that. 
The front seats are pretty broken down just like those in Hildegard, but the 
body seems at least as good. I now have 2 240D’s, and this one was half as much 
money at $750!
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter 945 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
1983 240D 269Kmi, ??? Looks like I need another female German name!, 

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: [Okietalk] Masks

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Say on Curt.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 9:35 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  For some reason we as a society have decided it makes sense to pay the
> bulk of our health care workers peanuts. We value the CEO way more than the
> people who actually do any work. I'm not really sure what a hospital CEO
> does beside figuring out ways to generate funding for his/her own salary...
> -Curt
>
> On Monday, July 6, 2020, 4:46:06 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  I think the answer is, like most things about this disease, we don't
> really know.
>
> Droplets, spit, snot -- yes a mask will obviously contain that.
>
> Aerosolized virus particles, probably not. It would be like trying to
> contain mosquitoes with chicken wire. If that turns out to be how the
> virus spreads, a typical "cloth mask" will be basically useless.
>
> It's my guess that in the end we'll conclude that basic hygiene (washing
> hands, not picking your nose, covering your coughs, staying home if
> you're sick) will be about the best we can do. A large number of people
> are bad at this. I suspect a large number of nursing home workers are
> shockingly bad at this.
>
> Allan
>
> Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > I have a question:
> >
> > What is the particle size that contain the virus as expelled from
> > humans when they talk, breathe, sing, sneeze, or cough? Without
> > knowing that critical fact, we have no idea how effective masks are.
> >
> > Greg
> >
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: [Okietalk] Masks

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 For some reason we as a society have decided it makes sense to pay the bulk of 
our health care workers peanuts. We value the CEO way more than the people who 
actually do any work. I'm not really sure what a hospital CEO does beside 
figuring out ways to generate funding for his/her own salary...
-Curt

On Monday, July 6, 2020, 4:46:06 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I think the answer is, like most things about this disease, we don't
really know.

Droplets, spit, snot -- yes a mask will obviously contain that.

Aerosolized virus particles, probably not. It would be like trying to
contain mosquitoes with chicken wire. If that turns out to be how the
virus spreads, a typical "cloth mask" will be basically useless.

It's my guess that in the end we'll conclude that basic hygiene (washing
hands, not picking your nose, covering your coughs, staying home if
you're sick) will be about the best we can do. A large number of people
are bad at this. I suspect a large number of nursing home workers are
shockingly bad at this.

Allan

Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes  writes:

> I have a question:
>
> What is the particle size that contain the virus as expelled from
> humans when they talk, breathe, sing, sneeze, or cough? Without
> knowing that critical fact, we have no idea how effective masks are.
>
> Greg
>

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Re: [MBZ] Masks

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I find it fascinating how much people who don't actually know anything are 
willing to say...
-Curt

On Monday, July 6, 2020, 4:16:10 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Six months is an eyeblink in normal infectious disease research.

At normal research pace, I doubt that's enough time to run a
scientifically valid experiment, write up the results, submit it for
publication and have it reviewed.

Allan


G Mann via Mercedes  writes:

> What impresses me most about covid 19, after now 6 months of endless news
> broadcasts, information releases, and talk by "experts" is:
>
> How little we actually know about the disease, its origin, its short term
> AND long term effects, and how to actually avoid or stop spreading
> infections.
>
> Everyone has opinions.. few have anything that can be remotely called hard
> fact.
> Most who claim to have hard facts have been found to have BS and
> speculation..
> If ignorance is bliss... this must be the most blissful time in human
> history..
>

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Re: [MBZ] Masks

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 So are you suggesting surgeons don't need to wear masks at all? Are surgical 
masks pointless?

-Curt

On Monday, July 6, 2020, 3:24:38 PM EDT, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Don, I just have a simple question.  Do surgeons who are sick still continue 
to perform operations, do they just put in the mask and say to themselves "This 
mask will protect the patient from virii I spew from my nose and mouth"?  Is 
that what they do?

I'll bet you a dollar they don't, because they know the truth.

One more simple question.  Do the doctors and nurses who test positive for 
Wuhan Red Death just put on a mask and go back to work?

God did not give us a spirit of fear, but a spirit of love.  Have faith, look 
for truth, use that brain that God gave you.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jul 6, 2020 1:15:40 PM OK Don via Mercedes :

> One more time. Those masks are to protect ME from whatever you are spewing,
> NOT to protect YOU from incoming particles.
> 
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> 
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
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Re: [MBZ] 240D

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Drive it up & i will take you to the airport for flight home.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 7:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Maybe I will drive it up for the ChowdaQ?
>
> On 7/6/2020 6:32 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
> > OK. I am looki g for a stick 240D  but that is,too far,away. I did
> > have blower problems with one of mine
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 7:19 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I got about $2500 in it but I also got a 130K 01 210 wagon and a
> > beater
> > 01 210 sedan, so if you factor those in I probably have maybe a
> > grand in it.
> >
> > On 7/6/2020 6:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
> > > Give you 500 for it.
> > >
> > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > Wickford RI
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 7:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> > > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > >>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I replaced the voltage regulator then took it out for a
> > spin. This
> > > is a 81 with only 153k miles. The blower does not come on and
> ac
> > > does not kick on. It is still R12 and have not put gauges on to
> > > see if it’s leaked out or an electrical issue. I do know the
> > > compressor turns free. Anyway it drives great even though it
> > could
> > > stand to have a front end rebuilt. Got it up to 70 and it was
> > > smooth. Thinking about throwing it out for $2500 at is.
> > Otherwise
> > > I will get the ac going, maybe do the front end then get up to
> > > $3500 or more, or is that too cheap these days?
> > >
> > > Here are some quick and dirty photos
> > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Barry Manilow

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Allan wrote:

> Sometimes I see trucks/trailers placarded "Not For Hire" so
> maybe that relieves the owners of some regulatory hassle?

Yes.  Then it is not commercial, and so FMCSR and CDL don't
apply.  But states can still do what they want for some intrastate
stuff.

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Re: [MBZ] 240D

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes i will be making an announcement  in a,day or so about Q13. We are
likely to gather but not sure about food.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 7:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Maybe I will drive it up for the ChowdaQ?
>
> On 7/6/2020 6:32 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
> > OK. I am looki g for a stick 240D  but that is,too far,away. I did
> > have blower problems with one of mine
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 7:19 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I got about $2500 in it but I also got a 130K 01 210 wagon and a
> > beater
> > 01 210 sedan, so if you factor those in I probably have maybe a
> > grand in it.
> >
> > On 7/6/2020 6:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
> > > Give you 500 for it.
> > >
> > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > Wickford RI
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 7:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> > > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > >>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I replaced the voltage regulator then took it out for a
> > spin. This
> > > is a 81 with only 153k miles. The blower does not come on and
> ac
> > > does not kick on. It is still R12 and have not put gauges on to
> > > see if it’s leaked out or an electrical issue. I do know the
> > > compressor turns free. Anyway it drives great even though it
> > could
> > > stand to have a front end rebuilt. Got it up to 70 and it was
> > > smooth. Thinking about throwing it out for $2500 at is.
> > Otherwise
> > > I will get the ac going, maybe do the front end then get up to
> > > $3500 or more, or is that too cheap these days?
> > >
> > > Here are some quick and dirty photos
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Kaleb wrote:

> The one that came with the MC was much shorter than the MB one
> that came off the car so I stuck the one that came with the MC
> back in.  I had a hell of a time compressing it to get it back
> to the bolt hole.  Finally got it, screwed it back down and now
> the clutch works!

If the master cylinder piston doesn't go ALL the way to the top,
the port where fluid gets in from the reservoir will be covered
and no fluid will ever get in to deal with clutch wear or leaks.

It might take compressing the piston a bit to get it all in there,
but the rod should not be tight - ie, it should not be pushing the
piston in at all.

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Re: [MBZ] 240D

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Yes do.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2020, at 7:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe I will drive it up for the ChowdaQ?
> 
>> On 7/6/2020 6:32 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>> OK. I am looki g for a stick 240D  but that is,too far,away. I did have 
>> blower problems with one of mine
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 7:19 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>I got about $2500 in it but I also got a 130K 01 210 wagon and a
>>beater
>>01 210 sedan, so if you factor those in I probably have maybe a
>>grand in it.
>> 
>>On 7/6/2020 6:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>>> Give you 500 for it.
>>>
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 7:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I replaced the voltage regulator then took it out for a
>>spin. This
>>> is a 81 with only 153k miles. The blower does not come on and ac
>>> does not kick on. It is still R12 and have not put gauges on to
>>> see if it’s leaked out or an electrical issue. I do know the
>>> compressor turns free. Anyway it drives great even though it
>>could
>>> stand to have a front end rebuilt. Got it up to 70 and it was
>>> smooth. Thinking about throwing it out for $2500 at is.
>>Otherwise
>>> I will get the ac going, maybe do the front end then get up to
>>> $3500 or more, or is that too cheap these days?
>>>
>>> Here are some quick and dirty photos
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] 240D

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 17:56:32 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Here are some quick and dirty photos 

I like your image8.jpeg.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 240D

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Maybe I will drive it up for the ChowdaQ?

On 7/6/2020 6:32 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
OK. I am looki g for a stick 240D  but that is,too far,away. I did 
have blower problems with one of mine


Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 7:19 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


I got about $2500 in it but I also got a 130K 01 210 wagon and a
beater
01 210 sedan, so if you factor those in I probably have maybe a
grand in it.

On 7/6/2020 6:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
> Give you 500 for it.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 7:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>
>     I replaced the voltage regulator then took it out for a
spin. This
>     is a 81 with only 153k miles. The blower does not come on and ac
>     does not kick on. It is still R12 and have not put gauges on to
>     see if it’s leaked out or an electrical issue. I do know the
>     compressor turns free. Anyway it drives great even though it
could
>     stand to have a front end rebuilt. Got it up to 70 and it was
>     smooth. Thinking about throwing it out for $2500 at is.
Otherwise
>     I will get the ac going, maybe do the front end then get up to
>     $3500 or more, or is that too cheap these days?
>
>     Here are some quick and dirty photos
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Amazon

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I think testing has a lot to do with it, we're approaching three quarters of a 
million tests a day in the US...
-Curt

On Monday, July 6, 2020, 2:24:56 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Mostly stupid people who think that being required to wear a face mask is a 
violation of their personal freedoms and not an obligation to protect others 
and society as a whole. Bars and beaches were packed a few weeks ago when they 
were opened. Now we see the results.

I welcome it. I see it as a textbook example of Darwinism.

That and testing has ramped up significantly here, so many of the asymptomatic 
folks are now being identified.

-D

> On Jul 6, 2020, at 1:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Hey Dan, sorry for being OT but what's behind the COV 19 surge around Tampa?
> 
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 12:58 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> I’m surrounded by distribution centers and they’re building more. They just 
> bought an existing 400,000 SF warehouse about 10 miles north of me and are 
> building another on the east side of Tampa. This is in addition to an 
> existing distribution center in Ruskin, about 20 miles south of me, and a 
> large parcel distribution center in Lakeland, FL, about 20 miles east of me.
> 
> I’ve heard rumors that they’re looking to leverage the airport in Lakeland, 
> too. If you’re an EAA fan that’s where their “Sun ’n Fun” event is held every 
> year, the southern version of Oshkosh.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:51 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > It depends what you order and how far the warehouse is. I often receive 
> > items in one day since they put in a new warehouse not too far from me.
> > 
> > Greg
> > 
> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2020 7:57 PM
> > To: Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> > Cc: Kaleb Striplin
> > Subject: [MBZ] Amazon
> > 
> > Is there no such thing as Prime 2 day shipping anymore?  Just about 
> > everytime I see a Prime item, it is about a week ship time. For example 
> > looking at ordering something now and it will not arrive until Friday.  
> > Another item is Thursday?  It used to be 2 days or less with Prime for me.
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Re: [MBZ] 240D

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

OK. I am looki g for a stick 240D  but that is,too far,away. I did have
blower problems with one of mine

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 7:19 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> I got about $2500 in it but I also got a 130K 01 210 wagon and a beater
> 01 210 sedan, so if you factor those in I probably have maybe a grand in
> it.
>
> On 7/6/2020 6:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
> > Give you 500 for it.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
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> >
> > On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 7:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I replaced the voltage regulator then took it out for a spin. This
> > is a 81 with only 153k miles. The blower does not come on and ac
> > does not kick on. It is still R12 and have not put gauges on to
> > see if it’s leaked out or an electrical issue. I do know the
> > compressor turns free. Anyway it drives great even though it could
> > stand to have a front end rebuilt. Got it up to 70 and it was
> > smooth. Thinking about throwing it out for $2500 at is. Otherwise
> > I will get the ac going, maybe do the front end then get up to
> > $3500 or more, or is that too cheap these days?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 240D

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea, I figured.  On a flipper I might go with cheap parts. But on the 
other hand, even if its a flipper I dont like using cheap parts.  Damn 
this is absolutely the smoothest and most quiet OM616 I have seen.  It 
literally runs like a sewing machine.  I may just have to keep it.


On 7/6/2020 6:26 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

A total front end with decent parts is gonna run you a few $100 in parts

--FT
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On Jul 6, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  
wrote:

I replaced the voltage regulator then took it out for a spin. This is a 81 
with only 153k miles. The blower does not come on and ac does not kick on. It 
is still R12 and have not put gauges on to see if it’s leaked out or an 
electrical issue. I do know the compressor turns free. Anyway it drives great 
even though it could stand to have a front end rebuilt. Got it up to 70 and it 
was smooth. Thinking about throwing it out for $2500 at is. Otherwise I will 
get the ac going, maybe do the front end then get up to $3500 or more, or is 
that too cheap these days?

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Re: [MBZ] 240D

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

A total front end with decent parts is gonna run you a few $100 in parts

--FT
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> On Jul 6, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I replaced the voltage regulator then took it out for a spin. This is a 81 
> with only 153k miles. The blower does not come on and ac does not kick on. It 
> is still R12 and have not put gauges on to see if it’s leaked out or an 
> electrical issue. I do know the compressor turns free. Anyway it drives great 
> even though it could stand to have a front end rebuilt. Got it up to 70 and 
> it was smooth. Thinking about throwing it out for $2500 at is. Otherwise I 
> will get the ac going, maybe do the front end then get up to $3500 or more, 
> or is that too cheap these days?
> 
> Here are some quick and dirty photos 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I got about $2500 in it but I also got a 130K 01 210 wagon and a beater 
01 210 sedan, so if you factor those in I probably have maybe a grand in it.


On 7/6/2020 6:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

Give you 500 for it.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 7:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


I replaced the voltage regulator then took it out for a spin. This
is a 81 with only 153k miles. The blower does not come on and ac
does not kick on. It is still R12 and have not put gauges on to
see if it’s leaked out or an electrical issue. I do know the
compressor turns free. Anyway it drives great even though it could
stand to have a front end rebuilt. Got it up to 70 and it was
smooth. Thinking about throwing it out for $2500 at is. Otherwise
I will get the ac going, maybe do the front end then get up to
$3500 or more, or is that too cheap these days?

Here are some quick and dirty photos



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Re: [MBZ] 240D

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Give you 500 for it.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 7:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> I replaced the voltage regulator then took it out for a spin. This is a 81
> with only 153k miles. The blower does not come on and ac does not kick on.
> It is still R12 and have not put gauges on to see if it’s leaked out or an
> electrical issue. I do know the compressor turns free. Anyway it drives
> great even though it could stand to have a front end rebuilt. Got it up to
> 70 and it was smooth. Thinking about throwing it out for $2500 at is.
> Otherwise I will get the ac going, maybe do the front end then get up to
> $3500 or more, or is that too cheap these days?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Masks

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My boy is working an ICU. They are fully gowned and masked and everything else

--R
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> On Jul 6, 2020, at 3:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  I've seen hospital potos - they wear head to toe protective gear when
> operating in a COV 19 ward.
> 
> If they are tested and learn they're positive, I would assume they would
> not risk spreading the virus for any surgical procedure..
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 3:24 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Don, I just have a simple question.  Do surgeons who are sick still
>> continue to perform operations, do they just put in the mask and say to
>> themselves "This mask will protect the patient from virii I spew from my
>> nose and mouth"?  Is that what they do?
>> 
>> I'll bet you a dollar they don't, because they know the truth.
>> 
>> One more simple question.  Do the doctors and nurses who test positive for
>> Wuhan Red Death just put on a mask and go back to work?
>> 
>> God did not give us a spirit of fear, but a spirit of love.  Have faith,
>> look for truth, use that brain that God gave you.
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> Jul 6, 2020 1:15:40 PM OK Don via Mercedes :
>> 
>>> One more time. Those masks are to protect ME from whatever you are
>> spewing,
>>> NOT to protect YOU from incoming particles.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 11:20 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>>> 
>>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Wernher
>>> Von Braun
>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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[MBZ] The lack of evidence lockdowns actually worked is a world scandal

[Craig via Mercedes]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/05/28/lack-evidence-lockdowns-actually-worked-world-scandal/

There is still not a shred of real proof that the planet's reckless
stay-at-home experiment made any difference


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Masks

[Clay via Mercedes]

Another stupid Humans Trick;

Woman from SWMBA office delivered a child minus kidneys about 29 months ago.  
Long hassle to get a donor, but one was found, then the plague hit, and 
elective medical treatment goes out the window.  More dialysis for the baby 
ensues until transplant center in CA opens back up.  Flights out of ANC are 
booked and baby, with family, head south.

Alaska Airlines demands usage of masks on all flights.  Misbehave and you will 
be given a yellow card and banned from future flights indefinitely.  Parents 
have all masked up and kid is as well.  Other passengers are wearing masks.  
Until the morons come over and remove masks and start talking to the kid.  Kid 
is supposedly cute, and this alleviates eejits of responsibility to not spew 
plague germs on small children or others.

Masks are a placebo to make people feel they are participating in some useful 
manner.  As a simple test, I popped one of the masks being handed out to Costco 
shoppers so they may enter the store and stimulate economy, to do some 
dusting/cleaning of the garage last week.  Winter accumulations of particulates 
and schmutz from driving through dirty snow had taken up residence on cabinets, 
shelves and the floor.  Battery powered leaf blower did the bulk removal of 
spider webbing and dust/dirt.  That kicked up a cloud of swirling filth to 
stand in.  Got much of it out the door and went back in with damp shop toweling 
to wipe surfaces down.

Upon removal of masking (supposed n95 surgical type) I blew my nose.  The 
residue on the tissue was not pristine in the least.  Dark snotty mess full of 
particulate.  That mask is not saving me from you.  It is concentrating any 
plague matter I exhale in great density upon my face and proximate environment. 
 Perhaps BSL3 suits could contain and reduce plague transmission.  A 
wonderbread size hank of cloth does not.


clay 

I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.



> On Jul 6, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I saw this anecdote posted elsewhere, it might give a clue as to why you
> can't fix this by asking/requiring the populace to cover their faces:
> "Yesterday I witnessed two ladies walking down the street separately, each
> wearing a mask, despite being alone. When they reached each other, they
> both removed the masks and began catching up."
> 
> Now they both handled their masks, they both likely did not clean their
> hands after handling their masks, and will probably touch other stuff
> before washing up. And the masks themselves were not allowed to do one bit
> of good for anybody, because they uncover their mouths when in the
> presence of others. Possible benefit: zero. Possible detriment: nonzero.
> 
> Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Masks

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Exactly correct on all points, from scientific viewpoint and "proper"
investigation and development.

However, world wide, public panic is inflamed, rather than soothed, by
conflicting informations and opinions from "people who should know better"
than to make statements other than what you just outlined as the normal
glacial pace of science.

Here, we are now having a second wave of near tsunami size with new
infections, or with better testing, newly discovered infections..
The lead / lag between good science and public panic is truly abysmal.



On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 1:16 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Six months is an eyeblink in normal infectious disease research.
>
> At normal research pace, I doubt that's enough time to run a
> scientifically valid experiment, write up the results, submit it for
> publication and have it reviewed.
>
> Allan
>
>
> G Mann via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > What impresses me most about covid 19, after now 6 months of endless news
> > broadcasts, information releases, and talk by "experts" is:
> >
> > How little we actually know about the disease, its origin, its short term
> > AND long term effects, and how to actually avoid or stop spreading
> > infections.
> >
> > Everyone has opinions.. few have anything that can be remotely called
> hard
> > fact.
> > Most who claim to have hard facts have been found to have BS and
> > speculation..
> > If ignorance is bliss... this must be the most blissful time in human
> > history..
> >
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: [Okietalk] Masks

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I think the answer is, like most things about this disease, we don't
really know.

Droplets, spit, snot -- yes a mask will obviously contain that.

Aerosolized virus particles, probably not. It would be like trying to
contain mosquitoes with chicken wire. If that turns out to be how the
virus spreads, a typical "cloth mask" will be basically useless.

It's my guess that in the end we'll conclude that basic hygiene (washing
hands, not picking your nose, covering your coughs, staying home if
you're sick) will be about the best we can do. A large number of people
are bad at this. I suspect a large number of nursing home workers are
shockingly bad at this.

Allan

Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes  writes:

> I have a question:
>
> What is the particle size that contain the virus as expelled from
> humans when they talk, breathe, sing, sneeze, or cough? Without
> knowing that critical fact, we have no idea how effective masks are.
>
> Greg
>

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Re: [MBZ] Poos

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I just posted on the latest “bagger/restomod” post. Nicely, of course.

-D


> On Jul 6, 2020, at 4:41 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It’s the same admins, they may have a few that are different but overall it’s 
> the same
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dan inquires:
>> 
>>> How is this one related to the W123 group?
>> 
>> Several members are members of both groups.
>> 
>>> Are the admins the same?
>> 
>> I don't think so.
>> 
>>> You, Rich and Rick all appear to have given me likes. Trying >to push me 
>>> off the cliff, eh?
>> 
>> We wouldn't do that. Would we? Lol.
>> 
>> I have yet to see a 124 with a hole in the hood, or cut springs. We may be 
>> safe giving advice there for a while...
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Poos

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

It’s the same admins, they may have a few that are different but overall it’s 
the same

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> On Jul 6, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan inquires:
> 
>> How is this one related to the W123 group?
> 
> Several members are members of both groups.
> 
>> Are the admins the same?
> 
> I don't think so.
> 
>> You, Rich and Rick all appear to have given me likes. Trying >to push me off 
>> the cliff, eh?
> 
> We wouldn't do that. Would we? Lol.
> 
> I have yet to see a 124 with a hole in the hood, or cut springs. We may be 
> safe giving advice there for a while...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Masks

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Six months is an eyeblink in normal infectious disease research.

At normal research pace, I doubt that's enough time to run a
scientifically valid experiment, write up the results, submit it for
publication and have it reviewed.

Allan


G Mann via Mercedes  writes:

> What impresses me most about covid 19, after now 6 months of endless news
> broadcasts, information releases, and talk by "experts" is:
>
> How little we actually know about the disease, its origin, its short term
> AND long term effects, and how to actually avoid or stop spreading
> infections.
>
> Everyone has opinions.. few have anything that can be remotely called hard
> fact.
> Most who claim to have hard facts have been found to have BS and
> speculation..
> If ignorance is bliss... this must be the most blissful time in human
> history..
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ringo is 80???

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s a good day if I wake up on this side of the ground, I believe. Anything 
else is gravy.

-D

> On Jul 6, 2020, at 2:39 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Rule #1:  If you can still feel, you are not old.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 11:26 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Holy. Makes you feel old.
>> 
>> https://www.thebeatles.com 
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Masks

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

 I've seen hospital potos - they wear head to toe protective gear when
operating in a COV 19 ward.

If they are tested and learn they're positive, I would assume they would
not risk spreading the virus for any surgical procedure..

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 3:24 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Don, I just have a simple question.  Do surgeons who are sick still
> continue to perform operations, do they just put in the mask and say to
> themselves "This mask will protect the patient from virii I spew from my
> nose and mouth"?  Is that what they do?
>
> I'll bet you a dollar they don't, because they know the truth.
>
> One more simple question.  Do the doctors and nurses who test positive for
> Wuhan Red Death just put on a mask and go back to work?
>
> God did not give us a spirit of fear, but a spirit of love.  Have faith,
> look for truth, use that brain that God gave you.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
> Jul 6, 2020 1:15:40 PM OK Don via Mercedes :
>
> > One more time. Those masks are to protect ME from whatever you are
> spewing,
> > NOT to protect YOU from incoming particles.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 11:20 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] Masks

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Exactly, Mitch. It’s not just masks or hand washing or isolating - it’s a 
combination of things that best protects everyone as far as we know at this 
point. Masks are just one part of the equation.

And your later point about the women who meet, remove and handle their masks 
just reinforces this. One without the other pretty well negates any benefits.

-D

> On Jul 6, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> That's the wish/theory.
> And it seems reasonable that reducing the outgoing air velocity would
> reduce transmission.
> It would be nice if we had some clinical evidence that it actually worked
> that way across any given population.
> 
> There might be countervailing acts at work, like people spreading disease
> by handling their masks and not washing their hands.
> 
> One thing we do know makes a difference:
> Wash your hands!
> Mitch.
> 
> On Mon, July 6, 2020 1:14 pm, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> One more time. Those masks are to protect ME from whatever you are
>> spewing, NOT to protect YOU from incoming particles.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Masks

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Don, I just have a simple question.  Do surgeons who are sick still continue to 
perform operations, do they just put in the mask and say to themselves "This 
mask will protect the patient from virii I spew from my nose and mouth"?  Is 
that what they do?

I'll bet you a dollar they don't, because they know the truth.

One more simple question.  Do the doctors and nurses who test positive for 
Wuhan Red Death just put on a mask and go back to work?

God did not give us a spirit of fear, but a spirit of love.  Have faith, look 
for truth, use that brain that God gave you.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jul 6, 2020 1:15:40 PM OK Don via Mercedes :

> One more time. Those masks are to protect ME from whatever you are spewing,
> NOT to protect YOU from incoming particles.
> 
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] Masks

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I saw this anecdote posted elsewhere, it might give a clue as to why you
can't fix this by asking/requiring the populace to cover their faces:
"Yesterday I witnessed two ladies walking down the street separately, each
wearing a mask, despite being alone. When they reached each other, they
both removed the masks and began catching up."

Now they both handled their masks, they both likely did not clean their
hands after handling their masks, and will probably touch other stuff
before washing up. And the masks themselves were not allowed to do one bit
of good for anybody, because they uncover their mouths when in the
presence of others. Possible benefit: zero. Possible detriment: nonzero.

Mitch.

On Mon, July 6, 2020 2:52 pm, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> What impresses me most about covid 19, after now 6 months of endless news
>  broadcasts, information releases, and talk by "experts" is:
>
> How little we actually know about the disease, its origin, its short term
>  AND long term effects, and how to actually avoid or stop spreading
> infections.


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Re: [MBZ] Masks

[G Mann via Mercedes]

What impresses me most about covid 19, after now 6 months of endless news
broadcasts, information releases, and talk by "experts" is:

How little we actually know about the disease, its origin, its short term
AND long term effects, and how to actually avoid or stop spreading
infections.

Everyone has opinions.. few have anything that can be remotely called hard
fact.
Most who claim to have hard facts have been found to have BS and
speculation..
If ignorance is bliss... this must be the most blissful time in human
history..


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> That's the wish/theory.
> And it seems reasonable that reducing the outgoing air velocity would
> reduce transmission.
> It would be nice if we had some clinical evidence that it actually worked
> that way across any given population.
>
> There might be countervailing acts at work, like people spreading disease
> by handling their masks and not washing their hands.
>
> One thing we do know makes a difference:
> Wash your hands!
> Mitch.
>
> On Mon, July 6, 2020 1:14 pm, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > One more time. Those masks are to protect ME from whatever you are
> > spewing, NOT to protect YOU from incoming particles.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Masks

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

That's the wish/theory.
And it seems reasonable that reducing the outgoing air velocity would
reduce transmission.
It would be nice if we had some clinical evidence that it actually worked
that way across any given population.

There might be countervailing acts at work, like people spreading disease
by handling their masks and not washing their hands.

One thing we do know makes a difference:
Wash your hands!
Mitch.

On Mon, July 6, 2020 1:14 pm, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> One more time. Those masks are to protect ME from whatever you are
> spewing, NOT to protect YOU from incoming particles.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ringo is 80???

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Rule #1:  If you can still feel, you are not old.

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> Holy. Makes you feel old.
>
> https://www.thebeatles.com 
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Re: [MBZ] Poos

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Dan inquires:

>How is this one related to the W123 group?

Several members are members of both groups.

>Are the admins the same?

I don't think so.

>You, Rich and Rick all appear to have given me likes. Trying >to push me off 
>the cliff, eh?

We wouldn't do that. Would we? Lol.

I have yet to see a 124 with a hole in the hood, or cut springs. We may be safe 
giving advice there for a while...

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[MBZ] OT - Ringo is 80???

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Holy. Makes you feel old.

https://www.thebeatles.com 

-D
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Amazon

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Mostly stupid people who think that being required to wear a face mask is a 
violation of their personal freedoms and not an obligation to protect others 
and society as a whole. Bars and beaches were packed a few weeks ago when they 
were opened. Now we see the results.

I welcome it. I see it as a textbook example of Darwinism.

That and testing has ramped up significantly here, so many of the asymptomatic 
folks are now being identified.

-D

> On Jul 6, 2020, at 1:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Hey Dan, sorry for being OT but what's behind the COV 19 surge around Tampa?
> 
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 12:58 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> I’m surrounded by distribution centers and they’re building more. They just 
> bought an existing 400,000 SF warehouse about 10 miles north of me and are 
> building another on the east side of Tampa. This is in addition to an 
> existing distribution center in Ruskin, about 20 miles south of me, and a 
> large parcel distribution center in Lakeland, FL, about 20 miles east of me.
> 
> I’ve heard rumors that they’re looking to leverage the airport in Lakeland, 
> too. If you’re an EAA fan that’s where their “Sun ’n Fun” event is held every 
> year, the southern version of Oshkosh.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:51 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > It depends what you order and how far the warehouse is. I often receive 
> > items in one day since they put in a new warehouse not too far from me.
> > 
> > Greg
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com 
> > ] On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via 
> > Mercedes
> > Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2020 7:57 PM
> > To: Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> > Cc: Kaleb Striplin
> > Subject: [MBZ] Amazon
> > 
> > Is there no such thing as Prime 2 day shipping anymore?  Just about 
> > everytime I see a Prime item, it is about a week ship time. For example 
> > looking at ordering something now and it will not arrive until Friday.  
> > Another item is Thursday?  It used to be 2 days or less with Prime for me.
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Poos

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Interesting 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:01 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ludmilla should weigh in
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 7/6/20 12:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> I’m surprised they let me join.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
 On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes it is the same bunch of dumb asses.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 6, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 You guys are piling on. You, Rich and Rick all appear to have given me 
 likes. Trying to push me off the cliff, eh?
 
 How is this one related to the W123 group? Are the admins the same?
 
 -D
 
> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have been in there since they started it but after getting kicked off 
> 123 I don’t post anything. I often see people needing help and I could 
> help them but all they get is stupidity. Since you are posting I might 
> start posting as well.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> Yeah, I know. I’ve been waiting for someone to take me to task on it, 
>> but crickets so far. That and I used big fancy words which tend to 
>> confuse and often render those with limited intelligence confused.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> yeah but you spoke Troof which is verboten
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
 On 7/6/20 12:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Why? I didn’t say anything wrong, and the comments I did make were 
 pleasant and hardly inflammatory.
 
 -D
 
 
> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Is working on getting himself banned from the 124 Fakebook group.
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Re: [MBZ] Masks

[OK Don via Mercedes]

One more time. Those masks are to protect ME from whatever you are spewing,
NOT to protect YOU from incoming particles.

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: [Okietalk] Masks

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have a question:

What is the particle size that contain the virus as expelled from humans when 
they talk, breathe, sing, sneeze, or cough? Without knowing that critical fact, 
we have no idea how effective masks are.

Greg

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Striplin via Okietalk
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Amazon

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Hey Dan, sorry for being OT but what's behind the COV 19 surge around Tampa?

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 12:58 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I’m surrounded by distribution centers and they’re building more. They
> just bought an existing 400,000 SF warehouse about 10 miles north of me and
> are building another on the east side of Tampa. This is in addition to an
> existing distribution center in Ruskin, about 20 miles south of me, and a
> large parcel distribution center in Lakeland, FL, about 20 miles east of me.
>
> I’ve heard rumors that they’re looking to leverage the airport in
> Lakeland, too. If you’re an EAA fan that’s where their “Sun ’n Fun” event
> is held every year, the southern version of Oshkosh.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:51 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > It depends what you order and how far the warehouse is. I often receive
> items in one day since they put in a new warehouse not too far from me.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> > Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2020 7:57 PM
> > To: Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> > Cc: Kaleb Striplin
> > Subject: [MBZ] Amazon
> >
> > Is there no such thing as Prime 2 day shipping anymore?  Just about
> > everytime I see a Prime item, it is about a week ship time. For example
> > looking at ordering something now and it will not arrive until Friday.
> > Another item is Thursday?  It used to be 2 days or less with Prime for
> me.
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Re: [MBZ] Amazon

[OK Don via Mercedes]

It depends on what you order. Some things are here the next day with Prime
two day shipping, others take longer than two days now. I'm guessing the
increased volume and sick drivers from Covid is the reason - it'll get back
to normal some day, maybe ...

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 9:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Is there no such thing as Prime 2 day shipping anymore?  Just about
> everytime I see a Prime item, it is about a week ship time. For example
> looking at ordering something now and it will not arrive until Friday.
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Re: [MBZ] Poos

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Ludmilla should weigh in

--FT

On 7/6/20 12:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I’m surprised they let me join.

-D



On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Yes it is the same bunch of dumb asses.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 6, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

You guys are piling on. You, Rich and Rick all appear to have given me likes. 
Trying to push me off the cliff, eh?

How is this one related to the W123 group? Are the admins the same?

-D


On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I have been in there since they started it but after getting kicked off 123 I 
don’t post anything. I often see people needing help and I could help them but 
all they get is stupidity. Since you are posting I might start posting as well.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 6, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Yeah, I know. I’ve been waiting for someone to take me to task on it, but 
crickets so far. That and I used big fancy words which tend to confuse and 
often render those with limited intelligence confused.

-D




On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

yeah but you spoke Troof which is verboten

--FT


On 7/6/20 12:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Why? I didn’t say anything wrong, and the comments I did make were pleasant and 
hardly inflammatory.

-D



On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Is working on getting himself banned from the 124 Fakebook group.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Amazon

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’m surrounded by distribution centers and they’re building more. They just 
bought an existing 400,000 SF warehouse about 10 miles north of me and are 
building another on the east side of Tampa. This is in addition to an existing 
distribution center in Ruskin, about 20 miles south of me, and a large parcel 
distribution center in Lakeland, FL, about 20 miles east of me.

I’ve heard rumors that they’re looking to leverage the airport in Lakeland, 
too. If you’re an EAA fan that’s where their “Sun ’n Fun” event is held every 
year, the southern version of Oshkosh.

-D

> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:51 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It depends what you order and how far the warehouse is. I often receive items 
> in one day since they put in a new warehouse not too far from me.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb 
> Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2020 7:57 PM
> To: Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin
> Subject: [MBZ] Amazon
> 
> Is there no such thing as Prime 2 day shipping anymore?  Just about 
> everytime I see a Prime item, it is about a week ship time. For example 
> looking at ordering something now and it will not arrive until Friday.  
> Another item is Thursday?  It used to be 2 days or less with Prime for me.
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Amazon

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

It depends what you order and how far the warehouse is. I often receive items 
in one day since they put in a new warehouse not too far from me.

Greg

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Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2020 7:57 PM
To: Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Cc: Kaleb Striplin
Subject: [MBZ] Amazon

Is there no such thing as Prime 2 day shipping anymore?  Just about 
everytime I see a Prime item, it is about a week ship time. For example 
looking at ordering something now and it will not arrive until Friday.  
Another item is Thursday?  It used to be 2 days or less with Prime for me.


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Re: [MBZ] Poos

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’m surprised they let me join.

-D


> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes it is the same bunch of dumb asses.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> You guys are piling on. You, Rich and Rick all appear to have given me 
>> likes. Trying to push me off the cliff, eh?
>> 
>> How is this one related to the W123 group? Are the admins the same?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have been in there since they started it but after getting kicked off 123 
>>> I don’t post anything. I often see people needing help and I could help 
>>> them but all they get is stupidity. Since you are posting I might start 
>>> posting as well. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jul 6, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Yeah, I know. I’ve been waiting for someone to take me to task on it, but 
 crickets so far. That and I used big fancy words which tend to confuse and 
 often render those with limited intelligence confused.
 
 -D
 
 
 
> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> yeah but you spoke Troof which is verboten
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 7/6/20 12:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Why? I didn’t say anything wrong, and the comments I did make were 
>> pleasant and hardly inflammatory.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is working on getting himself banned from the 124 Fakebook group.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] that'll buff out

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

"Transmission is shot" could be broken B2 piston. Pretty cheap fix.

Allan

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/499546357498366
>
> 1982 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D · Sedan 4D
> $750
> Vehicles 
> Listed 20 hours ago in St Helena, SC 
> 
>
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> About This Vehicle…
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> Driven 150,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Yellow · Interior color: Off_white
> Fuel type: Diesel
>
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>
> 1982 Mercedes benz 300tdt, about 150k miles. Pretty much rust free. 
> Motor runs, transmission is shot. Would make a great parts car or fix it 
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Re: [MBZ] Poos

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Yes it is the same bunch of dumb asses.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You guys are piling on. You, Rich and Rick all appear to have given me 
> likes. Trying to push me off the cliff, eh?
> 
> How is this one related to the W123 group? Are the admins the same?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have been in there since they started it but after getting kicked off 123 
>> I don’t post anything. I often see people needing help and I could help them 
>> but all they get is stupidity. Since you are posting I might start posting 
>> as well. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 6, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, I know. I’ve been waiting for someone to take me to task on it, but 
>>> crickets so far. That and I used big fancy words which tend to confuse and 
>>> often render those with limited intelligence confused.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 yeah but you spoke Troof which is verboten
 
 --FT
 
> On 7/6/20 12:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Why? I didn’t say anything wrong, and the comments I did make were 
> pleasant and hardly inflammatory.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
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>> Is working on getting himself banned from the 124 Fakebook group.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Poos

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You guys are piling on. You, Rich and Rick all appear to have given me likes. 
Trying to push me off the cliff, eh?

How is this one related to the W123 group? Are the admins the same?

-D

> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have been in there since they started it but after getting kicked off 123 I 
> don’t post anything. I often see people needing help and I could help them 
> but all they get is stupidity. Since you are posting I might start posting as 
> well. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, I know. I’ve been waiting for someone to take me to task on it, but 
>> crickets so far. That and I used big fancy words which tend to confuse and 
>> often render those with limited intelligence confused.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> yeah but you spoke Troof which is verboten
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
 On 7/6/20 12:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Why? I didn’t say anything wrong, and the comments I did make were 
 pleasant and hardly inflammatory.
 
 -D
 
 
> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Is working on getting himself banned from the 124 Fakebook group.
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Re: [MBZ] Poos

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I have been in there since they started it but after getting kicked off 123 I 
don’t post anything. I often see people needing help and I could help them but 
all they get is stupidity. Since you are posting I might start posting as well. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I know. I’ve been waiting for someone to take me to task on it, but 
> crickets so far. That and I used big fancy words which tend to confuse and 
> often render those with limited intelligence confused.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> yeah but you spoke Troof which is verboten
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 7/6/20 12:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Why? I didn’t say anything wrong, and the comments I did make were pleasant 
>>> and hardly inflammatory.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Is working on getting himself banned from the 124 Fakebook group.
 
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[MBZ] Masks

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Re: [MBZ] crack meth mushrooms opium

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Right off the bat, Gunter commands an extra $10k for an appearance fee.
Deduct $150 for the inop top.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 11:00 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Insanity
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2732244890210822
>
> 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300SL
> $16,900
> Dealership· Listed about an hour ago in Rock Hill, SC
> 
>
>
> About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 90,212 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Red · Interior color:
> VIN: WDBFA61E8MF023810
> Fuel type: Gasoline
>
>
> Seller's description…
>
> Thanks for visiting www.guntermercedes.com This beauty has a Bright
> Signal Red Exterior and Palomino Leather Interior. It is a Rare 6 Cyl.
> 3.0 Liter Twin Cam Engine and Automatic Transmission. Comes with both
> tops: Soft Canvas Top is Tan and the Hard Top is Red, although the TOP
> is INOPERATIVE at the moment. Interior has AC, Updated JVC Stereo w/ 12
> Disc CD Changer, Heated Seats and Wood Grain Accents. Exterior has Power
> Windows, Updated 17" MBZ Wheels, and Professionally painted(Lower side
> panels & bumpers) many years ago due to lower part was a different color
> as was common back then. Locally Owned. Low miles of 90 k!!
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Re: [MBZ] Poos

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, I know. I’ve been waiting for someone to take me to task on it, but 
crickets so far. That and I used big fancy words which tend to confuse and 
often render those with limited intelligence confused.

-D



> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> yeah but you spoke Troof which is verboten
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 7/6/20 12:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Why? I didn’t say anything wrong, and the comments I did make were pleasant 
>> and hardly inflammatory.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Barry Manilow

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

A celeb who treats a nobody as a nobody is himself a nobody.

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> Yep
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 5, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > IMO it says a lot about the character of celebs to see how they treat
> us "nobodies" they meet in everyday life.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> Penoff via Mercedes
> > Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2020 5:08 PM
> > To: Okie Benz
> > Cc: Dan Penoff
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Barry Manilow
> >
> > While it has been many years, in the summer in junior/senior years of
> high school and later before I was in tech school I used to drive a semi
> with a Landoll trailer carrying a 350kW generator set and cables to be used
> by the various tours as they went around the Midwest. A lot of the venues
> back in that time didn’t have adequate house power to run their whole show,
> so they would run the sound off house power and used our generator for
> lighting.
> >
> > I would often follow a given show for a week at a time, sometimes more,
> as they toured around the Midwest. We also had a standing gig with Market
> Square Area and the Clay Courts in Indianapolis for the same thing, so in
> some cases I would be doing it during the rest of the year locally, too.
> >
> > I was first in, last out. For a typical 8:00 pm show I had to be there
> no later than 8:00 am, sound check was usually around 2:00-3:00, then cool
> my heels until the show started. A lot of times we wouldn’t have everything
> struck at the prior venue until 2:00 - 3:00 am, which meant I might have to
> high tail it a couple hundred miles to the next venue, like maybe
> Louisville to Columbus or St. Louis, for example. Longer distances usually
> meant a travel day in between. Lots of sleeping in the truck.
> >
> > Some of the artists I toured with:
> >
> > Rush
> > Fleetwood Mac
> > Don Henley
> > Stevie Nicks
> > Kiss
> > Foreigner
> > Phil Collins
> > Def Leppard
> > Dire Straits
> > AC/DC
> > Journey
> > REO Speedwagon
> > Pat Benatar
> > ZZ Top
> > Heart
> > Toto
> > Kenny Loggins
> > Steve Winwood
> >
> > I’m sure there were others, but these are the ones I recall. All I can
> say is that while it was fun, sort of, it made me realize what a crappy way
> to make a living it was. I had to carry a firearm because I always got paid
> in cash by the road manager before the end of the show, so I always had
> large sums of cash on me until the morning when I could deposit it if I
> could find the right bank where we were. I was not union, so at the union
> (IATSE) halls I had to have a union member “assigned” to me that made all
> the final connections and I pretty much just flipped the switch and made
> sure all was well. Once that was done I was free to hit the buffet if there
> was one for the crew.
> >
> > My recollections about artists are as such:
> >
> > Rush was the absolute best band to work for. They had a dedicated crew
> that toured exclusively with them, some of them having been with the band
> for some time. Food was excellent and they (Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson)
> were always very nice and came by before the show to thank everyone. Molson
> and cold shrimp were some of the regular things on the after show buffet,
> and they always had a “to-go” kit of food and goodies for everyone on the
> crew after things were broken down/struck. A good breakfast was out on the
> morning of the show, too, with lots of fresh fruit and good things to eat.
> >
> > Don Henley’s entourage was the worst. That was one of those “avert your
> eyes when the “artist” is moving through the wings and backstage.” A real
> douche. No buffet or food, a pile of order-out pizza and cooler full of
> generic soda was all they would put out, and it was rarely enough to feed
> everyone.
> >
> > Keep in mind that food is always provided by the venue/promoter and
> costs the act a minimal amount of money, if any, as it’s factored into the
> cost of the show and spelled out in the rider in advance. That’s the
> contract that says “no brown M’s.” So if a tour does a crappy job on food
> for the crew, it’s on the tour, not the venue.
> >
> > Understand that as a crew member you rarely see the talent. If you do,
> they’re moving through backstage from point A to point B with their
> entourage around them, so you often can’t even see them if you tried. The
> only ones I recall circulating backstage were Rush, ZZ Top and I think
> Kenny Loggins. They would often hang around and chat a little bit after the
> sound check. As I mentioned before, Rush would come around and thank
> everyone before the show.
> >
> > I really don’t recall a lot of details, as it was 40 years ago, but
> those are the ones that stand out. The rest were pretty decent because they
> recognized the value of keeping the help happy. It was 

Re: [MBZ] Poos

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Pretty soon they will not want to take any advice because they think they know 
everything then get rid of you. 

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> On Jul 6, 2020, at 11:07 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Why? I didn’t say anything wrong, and the comments I did make were pleasant 
> and hardly inflammatory.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Is working on getting himself banned from the 124 Fakebook group. 
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Re: [MBZ] Poos

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yeah but you spoke Troof which is verboten

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On 7/6/20 12:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Why? I didn’t say anything wrong, and the comments I did make were pleasant and 
hardly inflammatory.

-D



On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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Is working on getting himself banned from the 124 Fakebook group.

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Re: [MBZ] Poos

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Why? I didn’t say anything wrong, and the comments I did make were pleasant and 
hardly inflammatory.

-D


> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is working on getting himself banned from the 124 Fakebook group. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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[MBZ] Poos

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Is working on getting himself banned from the 124 Fakebook group. 

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Re: [MBZ] Amazon

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

We have Prime trucks all over our neighborhood.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 11:06 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  When I order stuff with Prime it comes quick. I'd expected the "slow
> downs" that had been reported would be going away with people getting back
> to normal as far as shopping goes. We've stopped ordering much mostly
> because we really don't need anything...
> -Curt
>
> On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 10:56:44 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  Is there no such thing as Prime 2 day shipping anymore?  Just about
> everytime I see a Prime item, it is about a week ship time. For example
> looking at ordering something now and it will not arrive until Friday.
> Another item is Thursday?  It used to be 2 days or less with Prime for me.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Amazon

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ve mentioned this before, but nearly everything we’ve ordered in the past 
couple of months has come early. That’s usually two day or longer stuff, 
getting plenty of things the next day when promised.

-D

> On Jul 6, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> When I order stuff with Prime it comes quick. I'd expected the "slow downs" 
> that had been reported would be going away with people getting back to normal 
> as far as shopping goes. We've stopped ordering much mostly because we really 
> don't need anything...
> -Curt
> 
>On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 10:56:44 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Is there no such thing as Prime 2 day shipping anymore?  Just about 
> everytime I see a Prime item, it is about a week ship time. For example 
> looking at ordering something now and it will not arrive until Friday.  
> Another item is Thursday?  It used to be 2 days or less with Prime for me.
> 
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[MBZ] I will ignore dumb messages.,,The car is bagged,

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

ugh

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/552952035384031/

1994 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Wagon 4D
$777
Vehicles 
Listed a day ago in Lancaster, SC 




   About This Vehicle…

Driven 155,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: White · Interior color: Grey
Fuel type: Gasoline
16.0 MPG city · 22.0 MPG highway · 18.0 MPG combined
Very good condition 


   Typical Features…

 *
   Moon Roof
 *
   Alloy Wheels
 *
   6-Cyl, 3.2 Liter
 *
   ABS
 *


   Seller's description…

This is a 1994 Mercedes Benz E320, $7000 or trade. Picture album with 50 
pictures linked below. I will ignore dumb messages. The car is bagged, 
but nothing is modified on the car, that wouldn't allow it to be put 
back to stock. The car is in nice shape for being 26 years old, but it 
is not perfect. The car gets attention where ever it goes but hasn't 
really been shown since it was finished, other than a couple of cars and 
coffee events. The car starts and runs just fine, all the windows work. 
Air Ride is stealth installed, nothing is visible except the switch box. 
The Good: Fresh color matched paint on all exterior plastic. New 
cat-back exhaust Main wire harness replaced (common problem on this car) 
Throttle body replaced (common problem on this car) Drive belts and 
pulley were changed (common problem on this car) Rear window regulators 
were changed (common problem on this car) Fishbowl clear glass all 
around. Looks sweet, but also would allow for matching tint all around. 
The bad: The air conditioner compressor appears to be bad and won't stay 
engaged. It could be something else, but I've not investigated it. 
Sunroof seal needed to be replaced, it doesn't leak, it is just ugly, 
see the pictures. The car needs two covers for jack points on the 
passenger side. I have one that needs to be painted, another needs to be 
sourced, I can provide a contact. Two small dents, they could be fixed 
by PDR Wheel fitment rubbed the front fender and it needs to be painted 
Carpets are dirty and stained. The battery will die if the car is left 
sitting for about 10 days. I'll throw in the maintenance charger I use 
for the car. Aftermarket Parts AMG Body kit, that is likely fake, but I 
don't really know. AMG Monoblock wheels. Staggered 8/9 inch wide 
fitment. Common Wealth Motoring bracket kit, cups and rear control arms. 
Slam Specialties SS6 Air Bags VU4 Manifold Block AVS 7 Switch Billet 
Switch box 5 Gallon Air Tanks 2 Viair 400Cs Sweet 90s Motorola Cell 
phone(for Radwood Cred) Air Ride is all installed in hidden locations, 
The seats can fold down, and no air management is visible other than the 
switch box. Photo Album of 50 pictures. 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/EnTgWWeEoh2uAEDLA Price $7000 I am open to 
trades up or down. I will trade for projects, but I won't trade for a 
box of parts and a chassis. Bagged duallys or body dropped trucks will 
get my attention. I'll consider anything bagged with 4 doors. I'll 
consider RUNNING LS swap projects. I won't trade for import cars on fake 
wheels or euro cars that aren't air-cooled. If you want to trade for a 
project that can't drive, you must be willing to deliver it to 
Charlotte, NC area. FYI I won't take payments or hold this car for a 
year on a $50 down payment. So don't bother with that crap.


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[MBZ] OUCH -- 03 Mercedes e500 was t boned

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I could pull the airmatic off this to put on the 03 E500 that took an 
off-road excursion


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2003 Mercedes-Benz E-Class · E 500 Sedan 4D
$1,234
Vehicles 
Listed a day ago in Cary, NC 




   About This Vehicle…

Driven 240,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Silver


   Typical Features…

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   Leather Seats
 *
   Moon Roof
 *
   Alloy Wheels
 *
   ABS
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   Seller's description…

03 Mercedes e500 was t boned. Selling for parts or will sell whole. Make 
an offer


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Re: [MBZ] Amazon

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 When I order stuff with Prime it comes quick. I'd expected the "slow downs" 
that had been reported would be going away with people getting back to normal 
as far as shopping goes. We've stopped ordering much mostly because we really 
don't need anything...
-Curt

On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 10:56:44 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Is there no such thing as Prime 2 day shipping anymore?  Just about 
everytime I see a Prime item, it is about a week ship time. For example 
looking at ordering something now and it will not arrive until Friday.  
Another item is Thursday?  It used to be 2 days or less with Prime for me.


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[MBZ] that'll buff out

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/499546357498366

1982 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D · Sedan 4D
$750
Vehicles 
Listed 20 hours ago in St Helena, SC 




   About This Vehicle…

Driven 150,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Yellow · Interior color: Off_white
Fuel type: Diesel


   Seller's description…

1982 Mercedes benz 300tdt, about 150k miles. Pretty much rust free. 
Motor runs, transmission is shot. Would make a great parts car or fix it 
up. Clear title.


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[MBZ] she took some pretty hard blows from an angry baseball bat

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I wonder if the BF is in jail

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/201301464541322

2004 Mercedes-Benz C-Class · C 230 Sport Sedan 4D
$1,000
Vehicles 
Listed 7 hours ago in Asheboro, NC 




   About This Vehicle…

Driven 200,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Gold
Fuel type: Gasoline
20.0 MPG city · 28.0 MPG highway · 23.0 MPG combined


   Typical Features…

 *
   Alloy Wheels
 *
   4-Cyl, Supercharged
 *
   ABS
 *
   AM/FM Stereo
 *


   Seller's description…

04 mercedes c230 kompressor. she took some pretty hard blows from an 
angry baseball bat . runs and shifts great . high miles but taken care 
of . all the windows except windshield is busted out and needs all new 
tires . the head and taillight covers are cracked and busted , most 
damage is cosmetic . comes with clean title . supercharged 4 cylinder . 
best offer gets her .


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[MBZ] crack meth mushrooms opium

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Insanity

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2732244890210822

1991 Mercedes-Benz 300SL
$16,900
Dealership· Listed about an hour ago in Rock Hill, SC 




   About This Vehicle…

Driven 90,212 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Red · Interior color:
VIN: WDBFA61E8MF023810
Fuel type: Gasoline


   Seller's description…

Thanks for visiting www.guntermercedes.com This beauty has a Bright 
Signal Red Exterior and Palomino Leather Interior. It is a Rare 6 Cyl. 
3.0 Liter Twin Cam Engine and Automatic Transmission. Comes with both 
tops: Soft Canvas Top is Tan and the Hard Top is Red, although the TOP 
is INOPERATIVE at the moment. Interior has AC, Updated JVC Stereo w/ 12 
Disc CD Changer, Heated Seats and Wood Grain Accents. Exterior has Power 
Windows, Updated 17" MBZ Wheels, and Professionally painted(Lower side 
panels & bumpers) many years ago due to lower part was a different color 
as was common back then. Locally Owned. Low miles of 90 k!!


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Re: [MBZ] Barry Manilow

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep

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> On Jul 5, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> IMO it says a lot about the character of celebs to see how they treat us 
> "nobodies" they meet in everyday life.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
> via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2020 5:08 PM
> To: Okie Benz
> Cc: Dan Penoff
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Barry Manilow
> 
> While it has been many years, in the summer in junior/senior years of high 
> school and later before I was in tech school I used to drive a semi with a 
> Landoll trailer carrying a 350kW generator set and cables to be used by the 
> various tours as they went around the Midwest. A lot of the venues back in 
> that time didn’t have adequate house power to run their whole show, so they 
> would run the sound off house power and used our generator for lighting.
> 
> I would often follow a given show for a week at a time, sometimes more, as 
> they toured around the Midwest. We also had a standing gig with Market Square 
> Area and the Clay Courts in Indianapolis for the same thing, so in some cases 
> I would be doing it during the rest of the year locally, too.
> 
> I was first in, last out. For a typical 8:00 pm show I had to be there no 
> later than 8:00 am, sound check was usually around 2:00-3:00, then cool my 
> heels until the show started. A lot of times we wouldn’t have everything 
> struck at the prior venue until 2:00 - 3:00 am, which meant I might have to 
> high tail it a couple hundred miles to the next venue, like maybe Louisville 
> to Columbus or St. Louis, for example. Longer distances usually meant a 
> travel day in between. Lots of sleeping in the truck.
> 
> Some of the artists I toured with:
> 
> Rush
> Fleetwood Mac
> Don Henley
> Stevie Nicks
> Kiss
> Foreigner
> Phil Collins
> Def Leppard
> Dire Straits
> AC/DC
> Journey
> REO Speedwagon
> Pat Benatar
> ZZ Top
> Heart
> Toto
> Kenny Loggins
> Steve Winwood
> 
> I’m sure there were others, but these are the ones I recall. All I can say is 
> that while it was fun, sort of, it made me realize what a crappy way to make 
> a living it was. I had to carry a firearm because I always got paid in cash 
> by the road manager before the end of the show, so I always had large sums of 
> cash on me until the morning when I could deposit it if I could find the 
> right bank where we were. I was not union, so at the union (IATSE) halls I 
> had to have a union member “assigned” to me that made all the final 
> connections and I pretty much just flipped the switch and made sure all was 
> well. Once that was done I was free to hit the buffet if there was one for 
> the crew.
> 
> My recollections about artists are as such:
> 
> Rush was the absolute best band to work for. They had a dedicated crew that 
> toured exclusively with them, some of them having been with the band for some 
> time. Food was excellent and they (Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson) were always 
> very nice and came by before the show to thank everyone. Molson and cold 
> shrimp were some of the regular things on the after show buffet, and they 
> always had a “to-go” kit of food and goodies for everyone on the crew after 
> things were broken down/struck. A good breakfast was out on the morning of 
> the show, too, with lots of fresh fruit and good things to eat.
> 
> Don Henley’s entourage was the worst. That was one of those “avert your eyes 
> when the “artist” is moving through the wings and backstage.” A real douche. 
> No buffet or food, a pile of order-out pizza and cooler full of generic soda 
> was all they would put out, and it was rarely enough to feed everyone.
> 
> Keep in mind that food is always provided by the venue/promoter and costs the 
> act a minimal amount of money, if any, as it’s factored into the cost of the 
> show and spelled out in the rider in advance. That’s the contract that says 
> “no brown M’s.” So if a tour does a crappy job on food for the crew, it’s 
> on the tour, not the venue.
> 
> Understand that as a crew member you rarely see the talent. If you do, 
> they’re moving through backstage from point A to point B with their entourage 
> around them, so you often can’t even see them if you tried. The only ones I 
> recall circulating backstage were Rush, ZZ Top and I think Kenny Loggins. 
> They would often hang around and chat a little bit after the sound check. As 
> I mentioned before, Rush would come around and thank everyone before the show.
> 
> I really don’t recall a lot of details, as it was 40 years ago, but those are 
> the ones that stand out. The rest were pretty decent because they recognized 
> the value of keeping the help happy. It was still a crappy gig, but I got 
> paid pretty well for the time, I think $200/day in cash.
> 
> -D “Yeah, I’m with the band, baby”
> 
>> On Jul 4, 2020, at 6:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I just heard a Barry