Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are

2020-12-03 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
If we still have the Internet and virtual processes used during COVID, do we
really need markets and exchanges in big cities?  Why can't all that be
virtual from wherever?  With online banking, investing, etc. I think we are
close to that now.   There is, however, a serious drawback in reduced social
contact:  https://biggeekdad.com/2016/12/the-millennial-question/ 

The traditional retirement investment was to have kids who can take care of
you in old age.  If we, as a nation, continue to have too few children it
won't matter how much gold or dollars the old geezers have; there will be no
care-givers to hire, at least not American ones.

-Original Message-
From:  Allan Streib via Mercedes

Subject: Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are

I get the sentiment but we need both unless we revert to pure subsistence
living. Farmers absolutely need commodities markets in Chicago and New York,
for example. Anyone with any substantial assets needs insurance. Anyone who
wants income to retire on needs investments.

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Re: [MBZ] 1977 Mercedes SL 380 blown head gasket brand new paint job, $1500

2020-12-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
In that case 1981 - 1985 MY

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 9:24 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> 380SL
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Dec 3, 2020, at 8:53 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > The Fakebook page said "something is wrong" and won't show me the car.
> > Andrew is correct, if it's a '77, it's a 450SL, or a Euro 300SL with an
> > inline six.
> >
> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 7:35 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> 300SL?  1977 is likely a 450SL.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 7:44 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hopefully one of you guys goes and gets that thing.
> >>>
> >>> On 12/3/2020 4:20 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>  I wonder why, if he had spent the money to paint it, did he give up
>  rather than having the engine repaired?
> 
>  RB
> 
>  On 03/12/2020 3:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > Imagine painting an SL and then getting a blown head gasket.  I guess
> >> if
> > the guy didn't have bad luck he would have no luck at all...
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:44 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> This looks pretty nice
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/298751908073091/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> --FT
> >>
> 
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> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
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Re: [MBZ] 1977 Mercedes SL 380 blown head gasket brand new paint job, $1500

2020-12-03 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
380SL

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Dec 3, 2020, at 8:53 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> The Fakebook page said "something is wrong" and won't show me the car.
> Andrew is correct, if it's a '77, it's a 450SL, or a Euro 300SL with an
> inline six.
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 7:35 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 300SL?  1977 is likely a 450SL.
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 7:44 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hopefully one of you guys goes and gets that thing.
>>> 
>>> On 12/3/2020 4:20 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
 I wonder why, if he had spent the money to paint it, did he give up
 rather than having the engine repaired?
 
 RB
 
 On 03/12/2020 3:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Imagine painting an SL and then getting a blown head gasket.  I guess
>> if
> the guy didn't have bad luck he would have no luck at all...
> 
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:44 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> This looks pretty nice
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/298751908073091/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> --FT
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> OK Don
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Scott Ritchey via Mercedes  writes:

> Windows Classic Shell can provide a very W2K/XP interface:
> http://www.classicshell.net/downloads/

Seems that's a dormant project now, but work has continued at
https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] very nice, all records 1992 Mercedes 300 Diesel - $4, 500 (Woodruff SC)

2020-12-03 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Photog phail.  Couldn't quite cover the license plate number with his / her
thumb and take a picture at the same time...
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/woodruff-1992-mercedes-300-diesel/7240493621.html
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Re: [MBZ] 83 Mercedes-Benz 240D - $700 (Durham) 4spd

2020-12-03 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
" It's a cool car and the price is going up."

The price of...  restoring the car to running condition?
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> Kinda rough but appears to be a runner
>
>
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/durham-83-mercedes-benz-240d/7240545779.html
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Re: [MBZ] 1977 Mercedes SL 380 blown head gasket brand new paint job, $1500

2020-12-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The Fakebook page said "something is wrong" and won't show me the car.
Andrew is correct, if it's a '77, it's a 450SL, or a Euro 300SL with an
inline six.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 7:35 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 300SL?  1977 is likely a 450SL.
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 7:44 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Hopefully one of you guys goes and gets that thing.
> >
> > On 12/3/2020 4:20 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> > > I wonder why, if he had spent the money to paint it, did he give up
> > > rather than having the engine repaired?
> > >
> > > RB
> > >
> > > On 03/12/2020 3:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> Imagine painting an SL and then getting a blown head gasket.  I guess
> if
> > >> the guy didn't have bad luck he would have no luck at all...
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:44 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> This looks pretty nice
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/298751908073091/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined
> > >>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 For Windows 10 I've given up on using menus for anything. I just hit the 
windows key and start typing what I want. I've gotta say its not so bad, no 
searching through menus, just let Windows find it for me.
Actually my favorite OS right now is Windows Server 2016, actually 2019 seems 
mostly the same from a UI perspective. Very old school look, minimal GUI, more 
like WinXP than Win10. Much better than 2012 which was like Win8. Too bad its 
very expensive although you could use the free trial for half a year at a time.

-Curt

On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 3:57:21 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On 2020-12-03 15:18, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
>  I never saw any benefit to those stupid boxes in Win10.
> AND it's not worth my time to learn a new GUI every time some liberal 
> arts
> clown at Micro$oft has a wild hair.

Now that you mention it, I run everything at work off a Win10 Desktop 
homescreen, except I have to hit
some key combo like CTRL-I to get a power button. I just got that 
computer at the end of January, and haven't seen it since we closed the 
office March 23.

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Re: [MBZ] 1977 Mercedes SL 380 blown head gasket brand new paint job, $1500

2020-12-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
300SL?  1977 is likely a 450SL.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 7:44 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hopefully one of you guys goes and gets that thing.
>
> On 12/3/2020 4:20 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> > I wonder why, if he had spent the money to paint it, did he give up
> > rather than having the engine repaired?
> >
> > RB
> >
> > On 03/12/2020 3:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Imagine painting an SL and then getting a blown head gasket.  I guess if
> >> the guy didn't have bad luck he would have no luck at all...
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:44 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> This looks pretty nice
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/298751908073091/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Clay Monroe via Mercedes  writes:

> I am thinking that with ARM chips, once the OS goes native, that
> spells the death of hackintosh.

Agree. MacOS will continue to work on Intel for a while of course, and
continue to get updates and new releases, until the Intel Macs "age out"
of their supported lifetime. Then they'll be abandonded, like the
PowerPC Macs were.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] 1977 Mercedes SL 380 blown head gasket brand new paint job, $1500

2020-12-03 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Hopefully one of you guys goes and gets that thing.

On 12/3/2020 4:20 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
I wonder why, if he had spent the money to paint it, did he give up 
rather than having the engine repaired?


RB

On 03/12/2020 3:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Imagine painting an SL and then getting a blown head gasket.  I guess if
the guy didn't have bad luck he would have no luck at all...

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:44 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


This looks pretty nice


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/298751908073091/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined 



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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E500 low miles

2020-12-03 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Looks nice from limited pics but kinda high for a 16yo car even with the low 
miles

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] 1977 Mercedes SL 380 blown head gasket brand new paint job, $1500

2020-12-03 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I’d kinda like one of those hotted-up 560s  that outfit in NM is building 

--FT
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> On Dec 3, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You could always swap in a SBC!
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 03/12/2020 5:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> I guess I should hook up the trailer and head up there with some bennies! I 
>> wonder what else is wrong with it.  I was reading about those engines and 
>> how they were prone to various issues
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 12/3/20 5:43 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>>> True - here's your chance get it cheap and flip it ---
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:37 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I understand that but, it is a nice looking car and he is going to get
 little or nothing for it. If he repaired it, one would think he would do
 fairly well.
 
 RB
 
 On 03/12/2020 4:29 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> He got tired of throwing money at it. I wonder if the ACC works, etc ...
> 
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:21 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I wonder why, if he had spent the money to paint it, did he give up
>> rather than having the engine repaired?
>> 
>> RB
>> 
>> On 03/12/2020 3:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Imagine painting an SL and then getting a blown head gasket.  I guess
 if
>>> the guy didn't have bad luck he would have no luck at all...
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:44 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 This looks pretty nice
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1977 Mercedes SL 380 blown head gasket brand new paint job, $1500

2020-12-03 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

You could always swap in a SBC!

RB

On 03/12/2020 5:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
I guess I should hook up the trailer and head up there with some 
bennies! I wonder what else is wrong with it.  I was reading about 
those engines and how they were prone to various issues


--FT

On 12/3/20 5:43 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

True - here's your chance get it cheap and flip it ---

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:37 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I understand that but, it is a nice looking car and he is going to get
little or nothing for it. If he repaired it, one would think he 
would do

fairly well.

RB

On 03/12/2020 4:29 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
He got tired of throwing money at it. I wonder if the ACC works, 
etc ...


On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:21 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I wonder why, if he had spent the money to paint it, did he give up
rather than having the engine repaired?

RB

On 03/12/2020 3:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
Imagine painting an SL and then getting a blown head gasket.  I 
guess

if

the guy didn't have bad luck he would have no luck at all...

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:44 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


This looks pretty nice



https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/298751908073091/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined 


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Re: [MBZ] 1977 Mercedes SL 380 blown head gasket brand new paint job, $1500

2020-12-03 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Too many issues right now with COVID etc.
Plus, that is a nice car but not exactly what I want.
I have the old 115 300D. If I were going to look for another old MB it 
would be the bigger turbo diesel sedan, the 300SD, or a 123 turbo diesel 
sedan. but I am not likely to do that either. I don't really want to 
give up the one I have and unlike some of you folks, I don't have a 
"vast estate" so I have no place to park another one.


RB



On 03/12/2020 4:43 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

True - here's your chance get it cheap and flip it ---

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:37 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I understand that but, it is a nice looking car and he is going to get
little or nothing for it. If he repaired it, one would think he would do
fairly well.

RB

On 03/12/2020 4:29 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

He got tired of throwing money at it. I wonder if the ACC works, etc ...

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:21 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I wonder why, if he had spent the money to paint it, did he give up
rather than having the engine repaired?

RB

On 03/12/2020 3:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Imagine painting an SL and then getting a blown head gasket.  I guess

if

the guy didn't have bad luck he would have no luck at all...

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:44 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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This looks pretty nice




https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/298751908073091/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined

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Re: [MBZ] 1977 Mercedes SL 380 blown head gasket brand new paint job, $1500

2020-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2020-12-03 18:03, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

I guess I should hook up the trailer and head up there with some
bennies!  I wonder what else is wrong with it.  I was reading about
those engines and how they were prone to various issues


Single row timing chain?

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Re: [MBZ] 1977 Mercedes SL 380 blown head gasket brand new paint job, $1500

2020-12-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I guess I should hook up the trailer and head up there with some 
bennies!  I wonder what else is wrong with it.  I was reading about 
those engines and how they were prone to various issues


--FT

On 12/3/20 5:43 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

True - here's your chance get it cheap and flip it ---

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:37 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I understand that but, it is a nice looking car and he is going to get
little or nothing for it. If he repaired it, one would think he would do
fairly well.

RB

On 03/12/2020 4:29 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

He got tired of throwing money at it. I wonder if the ACC works, etc ...

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:21 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I wonder why, if he had spent the money to paint it, did he give up
rather than having the engine repaired?

RB

On 03/12/2020 3:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Imagine painting an SL and then getting a blown head gasket.  I guess

if

the guy didn't have bad luck he would have no luck at all...

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:44 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


This looks pretty nice




https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/298751908073091/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined

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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
App store has Parallels and other VM software, so probably able to run what you 
like.  I am thinking that with ARM chips, once the OS goes native, that spells 
the death of hackintosh.  Only able to run the OS on proprietary hardware on a 
chip.  I did contemplate the 16” MacBook Pro, but wanted more than the specs 
seemed to allow for ram and storage.

Clay


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> On Dec 3, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> The inability to emulate Windows is a total showstopper.
> 
> How would an ARM-based Mac be any less capable than a 68K or PowerPC-based 
> Mac?
> Windows was available for those via emulation, after suitable product 
> development delays.
> You think VMware is going to abandon that market segment in a fit of pique?
> 
> -- Jim
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[MBZ] 2004 E500 low miles

2020-12-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes


https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-2004-mercedes-e500-awd/7240898265.html

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Re: [MBZ] 1977 Mercedes SL 380 blown head gasket brand new paint job, $1500

2020-12-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
True - here's your chance get it cheap and flip it ---

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:37 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I understand that but, it is a nice looking car and he is going to get
> little or nothing for it. If he repaired it, one would think he would do
> fairly well.
>
> RB
>
> On 03/12/2020 4:29 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > He got tired of throwing money at it. I wonder if the ACC works, etc ...
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:21 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I wonder why, if he had spent the money to paint it, did he give up
> >> rather than having the engine repaired?
> >>
> >> RB
> >>
> >> On 03/12/2020 3:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Imagine painting an SL and then getting a blown head gasket.  I guess
> if
> >>> the guy didn't have bad luck he would have no luck at all...
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:44 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  This looks pretty nice
> 
> 
> 
> >>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/298751908073091/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined
>  --
>  --FT
> 
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 1977 Mercedes SL 380 blown head gasket brand new paint job, $1500

2020-12-03 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I understand that but, it is a nice looking car and he is going to get 
little or nothing for it. If he repaired it, one would think he would do 
fairly well.


RB

On 03/12/2020 4:29 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

He got tired of throwing money at it. I wonder if the ACC works, etc ...

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:21 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I wonder why, if he had spent the money to paint it, did he give up
rather than having the engine repaired?

RB

On 03/12/2020 3:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Imagine painting an SL and then getting a blown head gasket.  I guess if
the guy didn't have bad luck he would have no luck at all...

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:44 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


This looks pretty nice




https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/298751908073091/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined

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Re: [MBZ] 1977 Mercedes SL 380 blown head gasket brand new paint job, $1500

2020-12-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
He got tired of throwing money at it. I wonder if the ACC works, etc ...

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:21 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I wonder why, if he had spent the money to paint it, did he give up
> rather than having the engine repaired?
>
> RB
>
> On 03/12/2020 3:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > Imagine painting an SL and then getting a blown head gasket.  I guess if
> > the guy didn't have bad luck he would have no luck at all...
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:44 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> This looks pretty nice
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/298751908073091/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 1977 Mercedes SL 380 blown head gasket brand new paint job, $1500

2020-12-03 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I wonder why, if he had spent the money to paint it, did he give up 
rather than having the engine repaired?


RB

On 03/12/2020 3:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Imagine painting an SL and then getting a blown head gasket.  I guess if
the guy didn't have bad luck he would have no luck at all...

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:44 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


This looks pretty nice


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/298751908073091/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined

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Re: [MBZ] 1977 Mercedes SL 380 blown head gasket brand new paint job, $1500

2020-12-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The owner should be beaten about the head and face for having those goshawful 
wheel arch metal trim pieces on the car.

-D

> On Dec 3, 2020, at 4:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Imagine painting an SL and then getting a blown head gasket.  I guess if
> the guy didn't have bad luck he would have no luck at all...
> 
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:44 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> This looks pretty nice
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/298751908073091/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1977 Mercedes SL 380 blown head gasket brand new paint job, $1500

2020-12-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Imagine painting an SL and then getting a blown head gasket.  I guess if
the guy didn't have bad luck he would have no luck at all...

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:44 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This looks pretty nice
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/298751908073091/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined
>
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Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are

2020-12-03 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
It is a Tech worker from the left coast.  Not a functional human in the manner 
of older tech workers who actually got into the nuts and bolts of code and 
physical hardware.  This is a Lego programmer or drone who has no interest in 
knowing how “things” work, I am guessing, based on neighbors of mine who were 
slaves at M$, Gargle, Azaman, or Fakebuk.  It was a miracle they were able to 
make it to the shuttle bus each morning.  Most of them had crawled out of 
mama’s basement, got in early enough that stock options were offered, then 
purchased homes based on the assumption the stock would vest and banks were 
tossing out cash like it was confetti.  

One good aspect of the idiots on the block was the constant flow of service 
providers (plumbing, electrical, cleaning, yard tending)  Employing others to 
do the daily jobs these knobs were too clueless to figure out.

On a sadder note, the idiots also tended to create unsafe conditions because 
the stove tended to mystify them.  A few household fires had the station down 
the block rolling up with lights and sirens wailing any time of the day or 
night.  With the residents from 30 years back, the ambulance was in tow, since 
the Silent Generation tended to be in poor health, but knew well how to keep 
their homes functional.

clay 

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> On Dec 2, 2020, at 7:31 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Probably from Portland and expects the gummint to deal with everything for 
> him, take care of him and his needs. Probably hasn’t factored a Kleb into 
> that calculation 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Good question. She doesn't do much with it that isn't in a web browser. I bet 
if I put the same desktop wallpaper and Chrome shortcut she wouldn't know...

Curt

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  On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:29 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:   On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 18:52:10 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Heck I should probably drop an SSD in there and upgrade it to Win10 at
> the same time, it'll be like a whole new machine.

How much retraining will she have to do to go from Win8.1 to Win10?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 03 Dec 2020 14:53:32 -0500 Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Getting my Mom a Ryzen 7 system that I probably can't run Win7 on due
> to lack of drivers.

I ran Win7 on our "new" Ryzen 3 system on a BioStar motherboard and found
everything worked except the USB connectors. I contacted the factory and
was told they had a program which would add the correct drivers to an
Win7 install on a pen drive. I tried that and went around and around with
them (I'm sure the language difference did not help) with my saying it
did not work and their saying it did. Perhaps a different motherboard
company (ASUS? ASRock?) would be different.

I finally gave up and installed CentOS 7 (with Gnome3) and got working
USB ports, but a lot of other things I do not like about Gnome3.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2020-12-03 15:18, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

 I never saw any benefit to those stupid boxes in Win10.
AND it's not worth my time to learn a new GUI every time some liberal 
arts

clown at Micro$oft has a wild hair.


Now that you mention it, I run everything at work off a Win10 Desktop 
homescreen, except I have to hit
some key combo like CTRL-I to get a power button. I just got that 
computer at the end of January, and haven't seen it since we closed the 
office March 23.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Windows Classic Shell can provide a very W2K/XP interface:
http://www.classicshell.net/downloads/

It's all I use.  I never saw any benefit to those stupid boxes in Win10.  
AND it's not worth my time to learn a new GUI every time some liberal arts
clown at Micro$oft has a wild hair.


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From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 3:01 PM
To: Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
Cc: Allan Streib 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> Does Win10 have a Classic Mode to make the switch more transparent?

I don't use Windows much these days, but as far as I know Windows 10 does
not have a "classic" mode built-in. I believe there are themes you can find
(buy?) that approximate the look and feel of Windows 7.

My favorite Windows from a UI standpoint was Windows 2000 Professional.
Clean, responsive, minimal lipstick and eye candy.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> Does Win10 have a Classic Mode to make the switch more transparent?

I don't use Windows much these days, but as far as I know Windows 10
does not have a "classic" mode built-in. I believe there are themes you
can find (buy?) that approximate the look and feel of Windows 7.

My favorite Windows from a UI standpoint was Windows 2000
Professional. Clean, responsive, minimal lipstick and eye candy.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Almost transparent - you can boot into desktop mode instead of those funky
boxes all over the screen. My wife (totally non-techy) made the transition
with very little effort. It's been too long ago to remember how you do that
though ... YMMV

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> On 2020-12-03 14:28, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> > On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 18:52:10 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Heck I should probably drop an SSD in there and upgrade it to Win10 at
> >> the same time, it'll be like a whole new machine.
> >
> > How much retraining will she have to do to go from Win8.1 to Win10?
>
> Getting my Mom a Ryzen 7 system that I probably can't run Win7 on due to
> lack of drivers.
> Does Win10 have a Classic Mode to make the switch more transparent?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2020-12-03 14:28, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 18:52:10 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:


Heck I should probably drop an SSD in there and upgrade it to Win10 at
the same time, it'll be like a whole new machine.


How much retraining will she have to do to go from Win8.1 to Win10?


Getting my Mom a Ryzen 7 system that I probably can't run Win7 on due to 
lack of drivers.

Does Win10 have a Classic Mode to make the switch more transparent?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2020-12-03 14:11, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
Microsoft also has Windows for the ARM architecture (Surface Pro). 
Would

not be beyond belief if they get that ported to the Apple silicon.


I was only loosely familiar with M$ $urface products with Intel CPUs, 
never really looked hard at them because the prices stopped me cold.


This older article claims 2 Tflops, seems to run decent on native 
software, and emulates Intel x86 like, well, a SnapDragon.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-SQ1-SoC.436918.0.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Just for giggles (since I haven't done it for a couple years) I went and played 
with the Apple and HP sites. The prices you can spec those machines out to is 
amazing. The HP Z8 with 56 cores (2x processors at 28 cores each) with 1.5TB of 
RAM is over $50,000.
Both Apple and HP support video cards in the $10,000+ range. 

It must be neat to have that kind of money...
-Curt

On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 2:11:55 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Microsoft also has Windows for the ARM architecture (Surface Pro). Would
not be beyond belief if they get that ported to the Apple silicon.

Apple gives away their OS. They don't make any money on it, they make
money on hardware and the app store. So IMO they don't really care if
people want to run something else. They aren't going to go out of their
way to support it maybe, but I doubt they'll stop it. If it sells a few
percent more machines it's a win for them.

Efforts are underway to port Linux and other OSes to the new Macs, which
reportedly blow Intel out of the water on performance and power use.

Allan


Jim Cathey via Mercedes  writes:

>> The inability to emulate Windows is a total showstopper.
>
> How would an ARM-based Mac be any less capable than a 68K or
> PowerPC-based Mac?  Windows was available for those via emulation,
> after suitable product development delays.  You think VMware is going
> to abandon that market segment in a fit of pique?
>
> -- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 18:52:10 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Heck I should probably drop an SSD in there and upgrade it to Win10 at
> the same time, it'll be like a whole new machine.

How much retraining will she have to do to go from Win8.1 to Win10?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb

2020-12-03 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I sent him a message before it ended, but I really don't want or need another 
project.
Here's the message and his reply.

"$1200 is pretty high for a high mileage non running car. If it doesn't sell 
(again), if you need to be rid of it, I will give you $500 for it. Thanks"

"$500 it is! Would you like to pick the car up in person?"

I probably should have offered less.

If you want it, give me your email and phone number off list and I will forward 
it to him.

rickkno...@hotmail.com

Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: December 3, 2020 1:00 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: ka...@striplin.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb

I thought it sold on eBay? How did you come by this info? Yes I would be 
interested for sure.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 3, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> If you want that non-running 97 E300d eBay car in Memphis, the guy will take 
> $500.
>
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Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are

2020-12-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I get the sentiment but we need both unless we revert to pure
subsistence living. Farmers absolutely need commodities markets in
Chicago and New York, for example. Anyone with any substantial assets
needs insurance. Anyone who wants income to retire on needs investments.

If we're talking a Mad Max total social collapse, yeah the country folks
are probably better off.

Allan

Scott Ritchey via Mercedes  writes:

> VD Hanson podcast episode 44 talks about the urban-rural divide:
> https://www.nationalreview.com/podcasts/the-victor-davis-hanson-podcast/episode-44-the-critical-essence-of-the-country-mouse/
>
> One key take-away, IMO, is the urban folks cannot survive without country 
> folks that provide food, water, energy, and other raw materials.
>
> On the other hand, without the urban folks, rural folks would lack what?  A 
> stock market?  Insurance policies? Most taxes?  Streaming Video?  Class 
> action law suits?  Network/cable news?
>
> To be sure, there are many blue collar urban folks that make an honest 
> living.  I criticize the white-collar snobs that live off their credentials 
> and connections.
>
> The arrogance of those urban parasites who contribute almost nothing but 
> think they are better than the rest.  Even a one-day strike (no food, no 
> water, no gas, no garbage removal, etc.) against any big city would be an 
> eye-opener.   Maybe give them a one-week preview of the green new deal.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of OK Don via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 10:47 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: OK Don 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are
>
> I know some people like that - they are from the East coast - always renters, 
> never dealt with anything themselves - just call the landlord.
> Also, he might have only lived in all electric houses - they "just work".
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 10:34 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I know a guy like this. Tech guy, smart, but clueless about ordinary 
>> stuff. He knows how to put gas in his car. Any other issue, even a 
>> burned out bulb, bad wiper blade, etc. it goes to the dealer. That's 
>> actually not uncommon I guess.
>>
>> I'm surprised, honestly, that you would shut off utilities in the 
>> house between tenants. Not something I would do but your business I 
>> guess. Just seems to me it makes things that much more complicated on 
>> move-in day for very minimal savings.
>>
>> Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 That said my last Macbook lasted 4 years almost exactly, I think it was 
murdered by my road warrior life at that point. An equivalent HP or Dell would 
have been $1000 cheaper and, based on previous experience lasted at least as 
long.
If you don't resell then the resale value doesn't mean much.

I've actually still got the first HP laptop this employer gave me back in 2005. 
It was used (none too gently) when I got it and it still works fine although 
the battery is totally croaked. I keep it around for an older video editing 
application I really like that only runs in WinXP which it is totally adequate 
for.That machine has done a LOT of work both for my employer and side work for 
me, even after it was "retired". Its also the best machine I've ever had for my 
old Agfa scanner.
-Curt

On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 2:03:24 PM EST, Jim Cathey 
 wrote:  
 
 You have to treat your computer expenses like you might treat
automotive expenses.  It's not how much it costs, it's how much
it costs _you_, net, versus service and service life.

My Dodge diesel cost around $4000 more than a gasser when new.
It's worth more than $4000 more than that gasser, now.  So, the extra
cost wasn't a cost at all.  I'll get it all back on resale.

Mac laptops actually have a resale value, and they tend to have
service lives (except for the lemons) longer than the Wintel equivalents.

-- Jim

  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Microsoft also has Windows for the ARM architecture (Surface Pro). Would
not be beyond belief if they get that ported to the Apple silicon.

Apple gives away their OS. They don't make any money on it, they make
money on hardware and the app store. So IMO they don't really care if
people want to run something else. They aren't going to go out of their
way to support it maybe, but I doubt they'll stop it. If it sells a few
percent more machines it's a win for them.

Efforts are underway to port Linux and other OSes to the new Macs, which
reportedly blow Intel out of the water on performance and power use.

Allan


Jim Cathey via Mercedes  writes:

>> The inability to emulate Windows is a total showstopper.
>
> How would an ARM-based Mac be any less capable than a 68K or
> PowerPC-based Mac?  Windows was available for those via emulation,
> after suitable product development delays.  You think VMware is going
> to abandon that market segment in a fit of pique?
>
> -- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 IIRC there is some sort of Windows available on Raspberry pi although its a 
bit of a hack, so Microsoft has some code that will run on ARM anyway.
I hate what Apple has done to their laptops, their charge to be the thinnest, 
lightest, "coolest" (and I don't mean temperature), has given us less capable 
hardware. Until I know for sure they're making something better I'm not giving 
them any money again.
Example: My touchbar macbook was slower out of the box than the retina Macbook 
it replaced. The keyboard sucks and the touchbar is a waste of time. Battery 
life is worse and it doesn't have any *&%#! ports. For doing any real work it 
sucks. Apple has burned me as a customer and it'll take a lot to earn me back.
-Curt

On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 1:59:09 PM EST, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Apple chose the ARM in the first place (Newton) because it was the clear win in
MIPS/mW, which meant the best possible battery life.  That is still an 
operative factor.
Phones live and die on battery life, are there now any non-ARM phones?

MS has run Windows on non-Intel processors before, it's entirely possible
that there may be an ARM-based Windows product line in the future, if battery
life is sufficiently improved by doing so.  (Not saying it would be.)  Apple 
has a
sufficient market share that other parts of the market might react to this move.
Even Microsoft, though that seems somewhat doubtful.

My Wintel needs were _never_ driven by performance.  Just connectivity.
So what if Word runs kinda crappy on my Mac.  I don't live there, i do my work
in native world, and mostly only do conversions (and cross-compilation) in 
Wintel
space.  I wouldn't care if an ARMac ran it slower than the current stuff does.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
You have to treat your computer expenses like you might treat
automotive expenses.  It's not how much it costs, it's how much
it costs _you_, net, versus service and service life.

My Dodge diesel cost around $4000 more than a gasser when new.
It's worth more than $4000 more than that gasser, now.  So, the extra
cost wasn't a cost at all.  I'll get it all back on resale.

Mac laptops actually have a resale value, and they tend to have
service lives (except for the lemons) longer than the Wintel equivalents.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Hey Kaleb

2020-12-03 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I thought it sold on eBay? How did you come by this info? Yes I would be 
interested for sure. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 3, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> If you want that non-running 97 E300d eBay car in Memphis, the guy will take 
> $500.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Apple chose the ARM in the first place (Newton) because it was the clear win in
MIPS/mW, which meant the best possible battery life.  That is still an 
operative factor.
Phones live and die on battery life, are there now any non-ARM phones?

MS has run Windows on non-Intel processors before, it's entirely possible
that there may be an ARM-based Windows product line in the future, if battery
life is sufficiently improved by doing so.  (Not saying it would be.)  Apple 
has a
sufficient market share that other parts of the market might react to this move.
Even Microsoft, though that seems somewhat doubtful.

My Wintel needs were _never_ driven by performance.  Just connectivity.
So what if Word runs kinda crappy on my Mac.  I don't live there, i do my work
in native world, and mostly only do conversions (and cross-compilation) in 
Wintel
space.  I wouldn't care if an ARMac ran it slower than the current stuff does.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 I've had Windows running in VirtualBox on a Mac for going on 8 years now, it 
works pretty well. Newer versions of VirtualBox are better. I suspect VMWare 
would be better still but VB is free...
I spent last weekend working on my parent's Win8 box. Yes, Win8 flat. It took 
some figuring but I finally found out how to update it to 8.1 which greatly 
improved stability.
Also I think the "hybrid shutdown" BS had screwed them, when I first powered it 
up it couldn't get out of its own way, after a reboot it was mostly fine, after 
uninstalling Norton AV it was pretty good.
Norton was a strange one, it claimed to be expired but was eating up 30+% of 
the CPU and 50+% of the disk.
The machine is a dual core processor with 4GB of RAM. Looks like I can make it 
quad core and 16GB for about $150. That and the service call will be a good 
start to a birthday present for my mom. Heck I should probably drop an SSD in 
there and upgrade it to Win10 at the same time, it'll be like a whole new 
machine.

-Curt

On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 1:45:57 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On 2020-12-03 13:21, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> I meant to say Virtualize, of course you can emulate.
> While I was writing the previous message I was thinking "I suppose
> emulation is an option..."

 From what I understand, running x86 stuff on Apple APUs is horrible, but 
maybe not quite as horrible as doing it on SnapDragon. I just bought a 
$207 laptop with Win10 Home (not S) and 8GB RAM on an Athlon 3150, so 
I'm not too interested in $800 versions with cell phone processors, even 
if the phone based stuff has more computations per Watt.

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[MBZ] Hey Kaleb

2020-12-03 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
If you want that non-running 97 E300d eBay car in Memphis, the guy will take 
$500.


Rick

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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2020-12-03 13:21, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I meant to say Virtualize, of course you can emulate.
While I was writing the previous message I was thinking "I suppose
emulation is an option..."


From what I understand, running x86 stuff on Apple APUs is horrible, but 
maybe not quite as horrible as doing it on SnapDragon. I just bought a 
$207 laptop with Win10 Home (not S) and 8GB RAM on an Athlon 3150, so 
I'm not too interested in $800 versions with cell phone processors, even 
if the phone based stuff has more computations per Watt.


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[MBZ] 1977 Mercedes SL 380 blown head gasket brand new paint job, $1500

2020-12-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

This looks pretty nice

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/298751908073091/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined

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Re: [MBZ] If this wasn't so far away I'd be all over it -- 380SEC $200

2020-12-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I don't think a wrecker could have negotiated the slippery slope to pull 
it out, that Georgia clay is really greasy when wet, esp with a bunch of 
wet leaves on top of it.  Maybe when it dries out some I will talk to 
the kid about doing that.  The kid lives an hour away from where the car 
is at his step-grandmother's place so it is a PITA for him to deal with 
it all.  I'll keep in touch with him about it, maybe he can figure it 
out from his end.  I don't think he realized how hard it would be, 
wasn't his thing dealing with cars, he was just facilitating getting rid 
of them.  The kid was really nice so no issues on that aspect, he said 
he will try to figure something out.


It was an interesting area where the car was.  Lots looked like 
2-3acres, a lot of fancy houses in the area.  It was a pretty area.  
This place had a 60s house with like 2 additions on it, the lot was nice 
esp with the creek, but the house looked like a tear-down, just sorta 
run down and the additions were sorta half-assed.  Maybe some serious 
renovations would help.  Whoever lives there also rescues cats and dogs, 
there were several dog pens and cats all over the place, it was just 
kinda redneck in amongst a fairly upscale-looking area.  Whatever, not 
my place...


As far as winching the thing, there was really no good way to do that.   
The issue was getting the truck on a stable place to do it, both 
vehicles would just have been sliding around.  I had a come-along, I 
guess I could have used various trees as anchors but that would have 
been a LOT of work, and I am not even sure how I would have gotten it to 
where I could have loaded it.  It was just not a very good situation.  
The other cars were pulled out before the rain, I could have done that 
too with the truck too if dry but not with it being so wet.


I have thought about a winch for the truck and trailer, one of these 
days maybe...


I went over to the tire shop this morning to swap out the wrong spare 
they gave me, the guy couldn't find mine, I guess someone else will 
discover the error at some point.  He ordered a new tire/wheel which 
will be in tomorrow and he will give me that so that will sort out the 
issue.


So, the cheep old Benz bottom feeder adventures continue...

--FT

On 12/2/20 7:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Probably could have paid a wrecker $100 to winch it out so you can load it.

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:06 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
wrote:

At that point, for the time and trouble already invested, not worth it
to call a local recovery service who can come with a winch and a long
cable to drag it out?


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:


Yea. Mistake was not diving into the location and accessibility with the seller 
before making the trip

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

OK kids, I went to get this thing yesterday.  5hr drive that turned into 8.  
Blew out a trailer tire on I-20, fortunately I had got a new spare on Monday.  
Jacked up the trailer, took off the old  (shredded) tire and go to put on the 
new one.  Doesn't fit. Apparently the tire shop gave me someone else's 
wheel/tire, the wheel looked just like mine but the bolt pattern was bigger. 
H.

So there is an exit a mile down, the 3-wheeled trailer looked like the missing 
hub/drum won't drag, so I go on down there and get off.  Nowhere GA.  I look on 
my maps app and there is a tire shop a few miles down some country road, so I 
head there.  I get there and there is an old garage in ruins, I guess that 
ain't no tar shop no mo.  So then the next nearest one is another 6 or 7 miles 
away, so I head there on back country roads (rural Georgia is interesting). 
 I come to a sizable town and find the tar shop, get that tire replaced and 
another that is looking a bit iffy while I am at it.  Nice guys at the place so 
that was a positive.  Then hit a Tractor Supply to buy an actual spare 
wheel/tire so I have one in case of another mishap.  An adventure!

I get to where the car is, 3hr later than I had figured, sort of semi-rural 
area, nice properties and houses around.  I get in there, park the truck and 
trailer, no car anywhere.  So I get out and look around, it is sitting down 
about 20ft below where I am parked, the back of the lot slopes down to a creek 
and the car is down there.  Kinda wooded around it, there is sort of a path 
through the woods down the hill to get down there.  How the hell is that thing 
going to come out of there?

The guy I had been dealing with, this young guy who is really nice, tells me 
this long story about how the previous owner of the property like 4yr ago was a 
mechanic and he had dragged a bunch of cars from his shop, people had left them 
there or something, and parked them down there.  His step somethingorotherz 
lived there now and wanted the cars gone.  He had sold a bunch of them but this 
SEC was left.  We discuss how to get it ou

Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 I meant to say Virtualize, of course you can emulate.
While I was writing the previous message I was thinking "I suppose emulation is 
an option..."
I think the days of virtualization on Mac are numbered for a number of reasons, 
incompatible hardware being one of them. The Mac OS not supporting (in fact 
banning) is another.

-Curt

On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 12:35:51 PM EST, Jim Cathey 
 wrote:  
 
 > The inability to emulate Windows is a total showstopper.

How would an ARM-based Mac be any less capable than a 68K or PowerPC-based Mac?
Windows was available for those via emulation, after suitable product 
development delays.
You think VMware is going to abandon that market segment in a fit of pique?

-- Jim
  
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[MBZ] very nice, all records 1992 Mercedes 300 Diesel - $4, 500 (Woodruff SC)

2020-12-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/woodruff-1992-mercedes-300-diesel/7240493621.html

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[MBZ] 83 Mercedes-Benz 240D - $700 (Durham) 4spd

2020-12-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Kinda rough but appears to be a runner

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/durham-83-mercedes-benz-240d/7240545779.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> The inability to emulate Windows is a total showstopper.

How would an ARM-based Mac be any less capable than a 68K or PowerPC-based Mac?
Windows was available for those via emulation, after suitable product 
development delays.
You think VMware is going to abandon that market segment in a fit of pique?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] If this wasn't so far away I'd be all over it -- 380SEC $200

2020-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Mount the winch on a receiver hitch, mount a receiver on the trailer. Dual use 
winch...
-Curt

On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 10:49:18 AM EST, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Or both - one to pull the car onto the trailer, the other to pull the truck
out of the mud once the trailer is loaded.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 6:56 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well now you have an excuse to put a power winch on either your truck or
> your trailer!
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 5:29 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I get to where the car is, 3hr later than I had figured, sort of
> > semi-rural area, nice properties and houses around.  I get in there,
> > park the truck and trailer, no car anywhere.  So I get out and look
> > around, it is sitting down about 20ft below where I am parked, the back
> > of the lot slopes down to a creek and the car is down there.  Kinda
> > wooded around it, there is sort of a path through the woods down the
> > hill to get down there.  How the hell is that thing going to come out of
> > there?
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 They're never getting any more of my money. The inability to emulate Windows 
is a total showstopper.
-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] If this wasn't so far away I'd be all over it -- 380SEC $200

2020-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2020-12-03 11:01, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

or, you can likely set it up so that you can move the winch from the
truck to the trailer and vice versa.


The fun part is powering the winch.
A friend of mine has an equipment trailer with hydraulic tilt, and the 
trailer has its own battery.

So he just hooked up to that when he put a winch on it.

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Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are

2020-12-03 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
VD Hanson podcast episode 44 talks about the urban-rural divide:
https://www.nationalreview.com/podcasts/the-victor-davis-hanson-podcast/episode-44-the-critical-essence-of-the-country-mouse/

One key take-away, IMO, is the urban folks cannot survive without country folks 
that provide food, water, energy, and other raw materials.

On the other hand, without the urban folks, rural folks would lack what?  A 
stock market?  Insurance policies? Most taxes?  Streaming Video?  Class action 
law suits?  Network/cable news?

To be sure, there are many blue collar urban folks that make an honest living.  
I criticize the white-collar snobs that live off their credentials and 
connections.

The arrogance of those urban parasites who contribute almost nothing but think 
they are better than the rest.  Even a one-day strike (no food, no water, no 
gas, no garbage removal, etc.) against any big city would be an eye-opener.   
Maybe give them a one-week preview of the green new deal.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are

I know some people like that - they are from the East coast - always renters, 
never dealt with anything themselves - just call the landlord.
Also, he might have only lived in all electric houses - they "just work".

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> I know a guy like this. Tech guy, smart, but clueless about ordinary 
> stuff. He knows how to put gas in his car. Any other issue, even a 
> burned out bulb, bad wiper blade, etc. it goes to the dealer. That's 
> actually not uncommon I guess.
>
> I'm surprised, honestly, that you would shut off utilities in the 
> house between tenants. Not something I would do but your business I 
> guess. Just seems to me it makes things that much more complicated on 
> move-in day for very minimal savings.
>
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Re: [MBZ] W107 560 SL topless pictures later today

2020-12-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The earliest R107s had the battery under the hood - it was moved to the
trunk to make room for the ACC. I don't know much about the earlier cars
other than the W115 chassis.

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> On 2020-12-03 10:42, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > Yes, it's in the trunk.
>
> Was the 107 Chassis the first to do that?
> I can't think of anything else pre W140.
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Re: [MBZ] If this wasn't so far away I'd be all over it -- 380SEC $200

2020-12-03 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
or, you can likely set it up so that you can move the winch from the 
truck to the trailer and vice versa.


RB

On 03/12/2020 9:48 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Or both - one to pull the car onto the trailer, the other to pull the truck
out of the mud once the trailer is loaded.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 6:56 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Well now you have an excuse to put a power winch on either your truck or
your trailer!
-
Max
Charleston SC


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I get to where the car is, 3hr later than I had figured, sort of
semi-rural area, nice properties and houses around.  I get in there,
park the truck and trailer, no car anywhere.  So I get out and look
around, it is sitting down about 20ft below where I am parked, the back
of the lot slopes down to a creek and the car is down there.  Kinda
wooded around it, there is sort of a path through the woods down the
hill to get down there.  How the hell is that thing going to come out of
there?




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Re: [MBZ] W107 560 SL topless pictures later today

2020-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2020-12-03 10:42, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Yes, it's in the trunk.


Was the 107 Chassis the first to do that?
I can't think of anything else pre W140.

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Re: [MBZ] If this wasn't so far away I'd be all over it -- 380SEC $200

2020-12-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Or both - one to pull the car onto the trailer, the other to pull the truck
out of the mud once the trailer is loaded.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well now you have an excuse to put a power winch on either your truck or
> your trailer!
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 5:29 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I get to where the car is, 3hr later than I had figured, sort of
> > semi-rural area, nice properties and houses around.  I get in there,
> > park the truck and trailer, no car anywhere.  So I get out and look
> > around, it is sitting down about 20ft below where I am parked, the back
> > of the lot slopes down to a creek and the car is down there.  Kinda
> > wooded around it, there is sort of a path through the woods down the
> > hill to get down there.  How the hell is that thing going to come out of
> > there?
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are

2020-12-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I know some people like that - they are from the East coast - always
renters, never dealt with anything themselves - just call the landlord.
Also, he might have only lived in all electric houses - they "just work".

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I know a guy like this. Tech guy, smart, but clueless about ordinary
> stuff. He knows how to put gas in his car. Any other issue, even a
> burned out bulb, bad wiper blade, etc. it goes to the dealer. That's
> actually not uncommon I guess.
>
> I'm surprised, honestly, that you would shut off utilities in the house
> between tenants. Not something I would do but your business I
> guess. Just seems to me it makes things that much more complicated on
> move-in day for very minimal savings.
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] W107 560 SL topless pictures later today

2020-12-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Yes, it's in the trunk.

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> I think the trunk?  Not a bad price for a 560 if the car is reasonably nice
>
> --FT
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>
> > On Dec 2, 2020, at 11:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Haven't seen one of these in person but... where's the battery?  Is it
> > not under the hood, or just not visible in that photo?
> >
> >
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/hickory-hills-mercedes-560-sl/7240407265.html
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[MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

2020-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

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Re: [MBZ] OT anyone need a deuce-and-a-half?

2020-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2020-12-02 22:26, ned kleinhenz via Mercedes wrote:

Probably a decade or two ago I met a Hummer dealer at a social event in
western Pennsylvania.  I think his customer base was the strip mining
industry.  He was amazed that he was starting to get a few suburbanite
customers who wanted them for street use.  He described the cost to 
buy,
operate and maintain the Hummer of those days as astronomical for 
highway

use.  The vehicles were not particularly comfortable or convenient for
highway voyages.  And the size and capabilities of his Hummers were not
appropriate for on-road use.


But, Ahnold drives one in Beverly Hills, so I gotta keep up 
appearances...


Only H1 owner I knew was an ER doc in DA UP.
I don't know if it was military or consumer model.
Had a Suburban 4x4 for everyday driving, H1 was only for when the Doc 
must get through, and the 4x4 Chevy couldn't hack it.


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Re: [MBZ] If this wasn't so far away I'd be all over it -- 380SEC $200

2020-12-03 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Well now you have an excuse to put a power winch on either your truck or
your trailer!
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 5:29 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> I get to where the car is, 3hr later than I had figured, sort of
> semi-rural area, nice properties and houses around.  I get in there,
> park the truck and trailer, no car anywhere.  So I get out and look
> around, it is sitting down about 20ft below where I am parked, the back
> of the lot slopes down to a creek and the car is down there.  Kinda
> wooded around it, there is sort of a path through the woods down the
> hill to get down there.  How the hell is that thing going to come out of
> there?
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are

2020-12-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If this is the case he’ll be bringing some homeless people with him to set up a 
tent camp in the front yard, too.

-D

> On Dec 2, 2020, at 11:31 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Probably from Portland and expects the gummint to deal with everything for 
> him, take care of him and his needs. Probably hasn’t factored a Kleb into 
> that calculation 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 11:02 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> As I recall, this renter is coming from California or Oregon, left coast
>> area?
>> 
>> There is your explanation Next call will be to ask you why the toilet
>> paper isn't an auto ass wipe feature.
>> 
>> Hope you collected both First and Last month rent as part of the move in
>> deposit... if anything breaks, it will stay broken, he won't fix it.
>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 7:13 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The new renters moved into the house Monday. Keep in mind they were
>>> moving from Oregon and paid for Novembers rent even though they were not
>>> moving in till this week.  We told them all the info as far as utilities
>>> middle of last month.  Guy shows up on Sunday to move a few things in
>>> and we are there finishing up a couple of last minute items.  He walks
>>> the house and wants some light bulbs replaced and a few other minor
>>> deals.  Whatever.  He better be sure there are no burned out  bulbs when
>>> he moves out.  I explained to him that I had shut the water off at the
>>> meter because there is not gas on in the house and it was going to be
>>> down to 25 or so a couple of nights.  I explained when he gets the gas
>>> turned on so there is heat in the house, he can then go down to the
>>> meter and turn it back on.  Yesterday he calls and it took quite a while
>>> to explain to him how to turn the damn valve on at the meter.  He just
>>> could not grasp it.  He finally got it. Later, he messages and says he
>>> turned the heater on and it ran for an hour but never got hot.  We asked
>>> him if he turned the gas on. No, he has not.  Well sir, it is a gas
>>> furnace so it will not heat until you get the gas turned on.  We had to
>>> have one of the garage doors worked on and had an appointment with then
>>> to come out today.  The guy knows this.  He messages saying one of the
>>> garage doors (the working one) starts going down then comes back up. It
>>> was working fine Sunday so he must have something blocking the sensors
>>> or knocked one of them loose.  Why bring this up anyway when you know
>>> the garage door guy will be coming over.  He then states he can't figure
>>> out how to light the gas log fireplaces that are in the house.  It is
>>> real simple, turn gas on, turn knob to pilot and hold it hit, hit the
>>> button to ignite it, turn knob to on, then you are in business. Could
>>> not get it.  The wife had to do it for him.  He says the jets do not
>>> work in the jacuzzi tub.  I just repaired bad air line going from the
>>> switch to the unit, it works fine.  She fills tub up and it works fine.
>>> Guy says oh, you have to have water in the but before they work?  Uh
>>> yea, otherwise you will burn the motor up.  What did he think, it
>>> sprayed jets of water out.  Holy crap.
>>> 
>>> So what does the guy do for a living?  He is in commercial construction
>>> of some sort.  He was relocated here to work on some big expansion the
>>> google server farm is doing here.  That is quite scary.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W107 560 SL topless pictures later today

2020-12-03 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I think the trunk?  Not a bad price for a 560 if the car is reasonably nice

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Dec 2, 2020, at 11:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Haven't seen one of these in person but... where's the battery?  Is it
> not under the hood, or just not visible in that photo?
> 
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/hickory-hills-mercedes-560-sl/7240407265.html
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