Re: [MBZ] Pleasantly weird — $900E500 in limp mode

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

attaboy.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 6:58 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I started the car up this evening to charge the battery and aired up the
> tars. I fooled around with the radio While I was sitting there and found a
> Logic7 setting. It has a Harmon Kardon system. WOW does it sound good. My
> 05E320 wagon does not have this and it sounds pretty good but this car is
> way better.
>
> So anyway I thought why not take it out just to warm it up and get the
> fluids circulating. Going out the driveway I noticed it was shifting ok.
> H. I did some manual shifting 1-7 and it was shifting ok still. H.
> Got out on the road, stomped it, it kicked down into first and ran like a
> scalded rat shifting fine up to 80 or so which was maybe 4th gear. Backed
> off and it shifted ok again. Did a little more enthusiastic motoring and it
> was shifting fine. Hm.
>
> So this makes me think there might just be some loose connector somewhere
> that is throwing the thing into limp mode as it did for the PO. Or some
> other fault that is causing that to happen. The CEL is on, when I checked
> it before there were a coupla faults in the airmatic and something else I
> don’t recall, nothing serious. I’ll check it again tomorrow in the
> daylight.
>
> I drove it twice before I brought it home, the second time after I bought
> it I thought it was shifting fine. Drove it once after I dragged it home
> and it was limping.
>
> Wouldn’t it be something if it is just some minor thing. Really nice (but
> needs a good interior detailing) car $900. Oh, and this thing is WOWWOWOW!
> when you mash the go pedal.  I’m liking it.  I’m not sure I want to drive
> it any distance if it decides to kakk again, don’t have plates on it
> either.
>
> Hm
>
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

It is more than a little slop at this point so that is what I want to resolve. 
I know they have a bit of play but this one is getting a little concerning 
after 350k or 400k miles. If it goes another 50k tighter that should be good at 
least another 20years at the rate I drive it. 

--FT
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> On Mar 11, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> IIRC they need to have a little slop in the steering. If you tighten
> the steering box up too much it just wears faster.
> 
> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> I have not driven this car for awhile so took it out this evening for a 
>> little spin. I do like driving me a 126. The steering box is a little loose 
>> though, I need to tighten it up a bit. I’ve seen some vids and such on that 
>> and know it can be tricky but I should give it a try. I rebuilt the Front 
>> suspension some years ago so it Is good. 
>> 
>> As I was turning back into the driveway a G63 passed me. Got me thinking 
>> that a 37yo car is still pretty nice. 
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 84 300SD

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

IIRC they need to have a little slop in the steering. If you tighten
the steering box up too much it just wears faster.

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:

> I have not driven this car for awhile so took it out this evening for a 
> little spin. I do like driving me a 126. The steering box is a little loose 
> though, I need to tighten it up a bit. I’ve seen some vids and such on that 
> and know it can be tricky but I should give it a try. I rebuilt the Front 
> suspension some years ago so it Is good. 
>
> As I was turning back into the driveway a G63 passed me. Got me thinking that 
> a 37yo car is still pretty nice. 
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] One For Dan

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

That looks really nice but yeah that is probably about $1k too high. The 320 
performs well and gets good fuel mileage 21-22Mpg in my wagon. 

--FT
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> On Mar 11, 2021, at 6:25 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Not a wagon though. Slightly over priced too.
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/land-lakes-2004-mercedes-e320/7289960587.html
> 
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[MBZ] 84 300SD

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I have not driven this car for awhile so took it out this evening for a little 
spin. I do like driving me a 126. The steering box is a little loose though, I 
need to tighten it up a bit. I’ve seen some vids and such on that and know it 
can be tricky but I should give it a try. I rebuilt the Front suspension some 
years ago so it Is good. 

As I was turning back into the driveway a G63 passed me. Got me thinking that a 
37yo car is still pretty nice. 

--FT
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[MBZ] Pleasantly weird — $900E500 in limp mode

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I started the car up this evening to charge the battery and aired up the tars. 
I fooled around with the radio While I was sitting there and found a Logic7 
setting. It has a Harmon Kardon system. WOW does it sound good. My 05E320 wagon 
does not have this and it sounds pretty good but this car is way better. 

So anyway I thought why not take it out just to warm it up and get the fluids 
circulating. Going out the driveway I noticed it was shifting ok. H. I did 
some manual shifting 1-7 and it was shifting ok still. H. Got out on the 
road, stomped it, it kicked down into first and ran like a scalded rat shifting 
fine up to 80 or so which was maybe 4th gear. Backed off and it shifted ok 
again. Did a little more enthusiastic motoring and it was shifting fine. 
Hm. 

So this makes me think there might just be some loose connector somewhere that 
is throwing the thing into limp mode as it did for the PO. Or some other fault 
that is causing that to happen. The CEL is on, when I checked it before there 
were a coupla faults in the airmatic and something else I don’t recall, nothing 
serious. I’ll check it again tomorrow in the daylight. 

I drove it twice before I brought it home, the second time after I bought it I 
thought it was shifting fine. Drove it once after I dragged it home and it was 
limping. 

Wouldn’t it be something if it is just some minor thing. Really nice (but needs 
a good interior detailing) car $900. Oh, and this thing is WOWWOWOW! when you 
mash the go pedal.  I’m liking it.  I’m not sure I want to drive it any 
distance if it decides to kakk again, don’t have plates on it either. 

Hm

--FT
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[MBZ] One For Dan

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Not a wagon though. Slightly over priced too.

https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/land-lakes-2004-mercedes-e320/7289960587.html


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Re: [MBZ] 2013 Sprinter service truck - 59k miles - $17,500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That doesn't seem like too bad a deal if it is not all rusty

--FT

On 3/11/21 1:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Includes air compressor and tool boxes.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/d/romeoville-2013-mercedes-benz-sprinter/7289651938.html

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] 2013 Sprinter service truck - 59k miles - $17,500

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

*New brakes, fresh oil change.*

So glad it didn't receive a stale oil change.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 1:45 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Includes air compressor and tool boxes.
>
>
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/d/romeoville-2013-mercedes-benz-sprinter/7289651938.html
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E-500 4matic - 123k miles - $3,800

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I bought this pretty nice 04E500 recently for $900, the transmission is 
in limp mode, although one time I drove it the thing shifted OK, weird.  
Code seems to be for conductor plate.  It has airmatic but is not a 
4matic, it is throwing a code for the RR shock but it seems to be 
working OK, might just have a leak.  I'll probably open up the tranny 
and check on the conductor plate and connectors, change fluid and filter 
and see what is going on.


As far as 4m goes, my 05E320 wagon with 4m makes kinda gronching noises 
in reverse, I will open it up at some point and see if it a bearing or 
chain or what.  You can buy the whole bearing and chain rebuild kit for 
like $250 if I recall, and doesn't seem to be a big job.  Would be 
interesting to see what this guy had done and what his complaint is.  If 
it something that seems serious, I wouldn't go much more than $2k on the 
car, he probably wouldn't entertain that.  But good for him on the honesty.


--FT

On 3/11/21 3:27 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

I read that as fluids replaced, but maybe?

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:


Replaced in last 6 months?

--FT
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On Mar 11, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
wrote:

"Transfer case is making noise/bumps"

https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/bardstown-2004-mercedes-500-4matic/7289634494.html

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E-500 4matic - 123k miles - $3,800

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Check vin. Some had recall.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 3:39 PM Dwight Giles  wrote:

> Yes dealer changed bearing & fluid  in transfer case.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 3:27 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> The ad said the fluids got changed. I *think* Dwight had transfer case
>> issues, that were resolved. The big issue with the E500 W211 is going to be
>> the Airmatic suspension.
>>
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Sent: March 11, 2021 1:05 PM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 E-500 4matic - 123k miles - $3,800
>>
>> Replaced in last 6 months?
>>
>> --FT
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>>
>> > On Mar 11, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > "Transfer case is making noise/bumps"
>> >
>> >
>> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/bardstown-2004-mercedes-500-4matic/7289634494.html
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E-500 4matic - 123k miles - $3,800

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes dealer changed bearing & fluid  in transfer case.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 3:27 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The ad said the fluids got changed. I *think* Dwight had transfer case
> issues, that were resolved. The big issue with the E500 W211 is going to be
> the Airmatic suspension.
>
>
> Rick
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 E-500 4matic - 123k miles - $3,800
>
> Replaced in last 6 months?
>
> --FT
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>
> > On Mar 11, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > "Transfer case is making noise/bumps"
> >
> >
> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/bardstown-2004-mercedes-500-4matic/7289634494.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E-500 4matic - 123k miles - $3,800

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I read that as fluids replaced, but maybe?

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:

> Replaced in last 6 months?
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> "Transfer case is making noise/bumps"
>> 
>> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/bardstown-2004-mercedes-500-4matic/7289634494.html
>> 
>> Allan
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E-500 4matic - 123k miles - $3,800

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

The ad said the fluids got changed. I *think* Dwight had transfer case issues, 
that were resolved. The big issue with the E500 W211 is going to be the 
Airmatic suspension.


Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 E-500 4matic - 123k miles - $3,800

Replaced in last 6 months?

--FT
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> On Mar 11, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> "Transfer case is making noise/bumps"
>
> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/bardstown-2004-mercedes-500-4matic/7289634494.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E-500 4matic - 123k miles - $3,800

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Replaced in last 6 months?

--FT
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> On Mar 11, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> "Transfer case is making noise/bumps"
> 
> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/bardstown-2004-mercedes-500-4matic/7289634494.html
> 
> Allan
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[MBZ] 2013 Sprinter service truck - 59k miles - $17,500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Includes air compressor and tool boxes.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/d/romeoville-2013-mercedes-benz-sprinter/7289651938.html

Allan

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[MBZ] 2004 E-500 4matic - 123k miles - $3,800

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

"Transfer case is making noise/bumps"

https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/bardstown-2004-mercedes-500-4matic/7289634494.html

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT MaryKayMobile

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On 11/03/2021 11:20 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I saw this Cadillac SUV in some sort of like a pearlescent White with a very 
light pink tint. It was vaguely attractive as an article con of 21st century 
excess

--FT


Essentially, the exact opposite of an old 240D?

RB


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[MBZ] OT MaryKayMobile

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I saw this Cadillac SUV in some sort of like a pearlescent White with a very 
light pink tint. It was vaguely attractive as an article con of 21st century 
excess

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Re: [MBZ] now S600

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

W140 chassis cars are very complex, probably the most complex cars of their 
time. Multiple independent systems that do all sorts of things, like soft close 
doors, control interior lighting, ACC, etc., etc.

That being said, they’re not all that bad to work on. Since each system is 
independent of the others, when something like your soft close feature stops 
working, you’re not stuck on the side of the road - you just have to slam to 
door to get it to shut.

The V12 models bring another reality of complexity into view, as they’re 
essentially double everything (or thereabouts) that’s on the M119 V8s. So when 
one MAF goes bad, you’re betting the other won’t be far behind.

This is where it gets ugly, as the costs involved to maintain these are the 
typical downfall of most owners, and the reason why these wonderful cars often 
get parked and abandoned.

I’m not suggesting they are trouble prone - the W140 chassis cars are quite 
robust and run well - I had several that exceeded 350k miles without any major 
issues. They’re just very complex and require someone who has the time and 
interest to maintain them.

-D

> On Mar 11, 2021, at 12:03 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you can buy it cheap enough, you can take your time with correcting its 
> faults.
> It is not likely that there is a line up of potential buyers for it.
> Worst case scenario, it becomes tasteful yard art?
> 
> RB
> 
> On 10/03/2021 9:00 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>> FT, Thanks for the words of wisdom and guidance re the S600. This is  > an 
>> elegant car, even if it is 26 years old. That draws me to it.. 
> The > unbelievable electrical nannies push me away with equal force. The > 
> guy that presently owns it owns a pretty successful repair shop, and > he 
> parked it 3 years ago rather than get into it.. overwhelmed him, I > think. 
> My plate is pretty full as it is, I question my choice to even > consider it, 
> at this early point. Then, if there was / is a quick > magic fix.. it might 
> be an enjoyable car to cruise. > >
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Re: [MBZ] now S600

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

If you can buy it cheap enough, you can take your time with correcting 
its faults.

It is not likely that there is a line up of potential buyers for it.
Worst case scenario, it becomes tasteful yard art?

RB

On 10/03/2021 9:00 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
FT, Thanks for the words of wisdom and guidance re the S600. This is  > an elegant car, even if it is 26 years old. That draws me to it.. 
The > unbelievable electrical nannies push me away with equal force. The 
> guy that presently owns it owns a pretty successful repair shop, and 
> he parked it 3 years ago rather than get into it.. overwhelmed him, I 
> think. My plate is pretty full as it is, I question my choice to even 
> consider it, at this early point. Then, if there was / is a quick > 
magic fix.. it might be an enjoyable car to cruise. > >


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes G63 omg - $79,000

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That and as a rule those tires with the low sidewalls don’t typically have 
warranties on them, that is, they don’t guarantee them for a set number of 
miles, it’s basically, you buy it and hope they last.

That’s why I moved away from these on Mrs. Dan’s SL500. A set of tires was 
$1200, and she was going through them in 2 years or less. Some careful research 
with a tire size calculator and I was able to get very similar tires that were 
common sizes and had real warranties. They last longer, too, as the compound 
seems to be much harder.

-D 

> On Mar 11, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had to get a new tire on the Dodge yesterday. A friend runs the local "Tire 
> Warehouse", while I waited I wandered around looking at the tires and found 
> some massive wide tires with thin sidewalls, they were like 295/55R22 or 
> something. I asked and my friend told me that those are "Profit tires". 
> People like me buying normal tires is what keeps the doors of the shop open 
> but those stupid tires are the ones that "Make the numbers" and get bonuses 
> for the sales team. He said there's something like 80% markup on those...
> -Curt
> 
>On Thursday, March 11, 2021, 10:38:09 AM EST, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Stupid wheels, why hobble such a beast with wheels that can't navigate a 
> pothole.  AMG, OMG, ID10T, whatever it takes...
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> Mar 11, 2021 10:24:05 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :
> 
>> Special omg package
>> 
>> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/mount-pleasant-mercedes-g63-omg/7289616964.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes G63 omg - $79,000

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I had to get a new tire on the Dodge yesterday. A friend runs the local "Tire 
Warehouse", while I waited I wandered around looking at the tires and found 
some massive wide tires with thin sidewalls, they were like 295/55R22 or 
something. I asked and my friend told me that those are "Profit tires". People 
like me buying normal tires is what keeps the doors of the shop open but those 
stupid tires are the ones that "Make the numbers" and get bonuses for the sales 
team. He said there's something like 80% markup on those...
-Curt

On Thursday, March 11, 2021, 10:38:09 AM EST, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Stupid wheels, why hobble such a beast with wheels that can't navigate a 
pothole.  AMG, OMG, ID10T, whatever it takes...

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Mar 11, 2021 10:24:05 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> Special omg package
> 
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/mount-pleasant-mercedes-g63-omg/7289616964.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes G63 omg - $79,000

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Stupid wheels, why hobble such a beast with wheels that can't navigate a 
pothole.  AMG, OMG, ID10T, whatever it takes...

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Mar 11, 2021 10:24:05 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> Special omg package
> 
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/mount-pleasant-mercedes-g63-omg/7289616964.html
> 
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[MBZ] this looks nice -- 1991 Mercedes Benz 300SE - $4, 300 (Durham NC)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/durham-1991-mercedes-benz-300se/7289379163.html

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[MBZ] Mercedes G63 omg - $79,000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Special omg package

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/mount-pleasant-mercedes-g63-omg/7289616964.html

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Re: [MBZ] Today's Great Deal

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

That looks nice

--FT
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> On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/tarpon-springs-1999-mercedes-e320-wagon/7289479570.html
>  
> 
> 
> If I wasn’t getting on a plane early tomorrow morning I would be making 
> arrangements to go look at this.
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I should buy Hoovies GL

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He probably put $10k into that thing

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> On Mar 10, 2021, at 10:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/122463516480521/
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