Re: [MBZ] 210 Headlights
My wagon has one replacement but I don’t know what it is. I think it’s glass Depo seem high quality --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jul 9, 2022, at 11:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > What is the preferred replacement units these days? I do not want the > horrible cheap looking aftermarket lights. Are the Depo the ones that look > factory? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1995 E320 W124 - 226k miles - $4,000
My green 95 has same color interior and it looks good with the green. I think it goes well with black too. The clear coat is shot, will need to be taken down and resprayed. Mine is shot too. Carwashes. --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jul 9, 2022, at 11:30 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Looks halfway decent, though I'm not a big fan of light-colored interiors. > Wonder if the roof could be restored with buffing? > > https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/harrison-1995-mercedes-e320-w124/7506818334.html > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1995 E320 W124 - 226k miles - $4,000
Looks halfway decent, though I'm not a big fan of light-colored interiors. Wonder if the roof could be restored with buffing? https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/harrison-1995-mercedes-e320-w124/7506818334.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 210 Headlights
What is the preferred replacement units these days? I do not want the horrible cheap looking aftermarket lights. Are the Depo the ones that look factory? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E vs S
I don't mean to sound like an a hole, but if you really want a later S class, sell some cars and go get one. It won't be inexpensive though. If, over the next year you sold twenty cars for $1,500 each that would give you 30 grand. We'll say that every time you find a deal for a grand you exercise extreme self control and bank roll the money instead of buying the car. (I have self control issues at times myself). That gives you another $10. So for forty thousand dollars go buy yourself a Maybach or a REALLY nice S class. If I could only solve MY problems that easy Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: July 9, 2022 4:09 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] E vs S Hmmm ok makes sense. I have wanted to buy a later 220 that is sorted, but they all seem to be either ghetto or both. Also somewhat been looking for a 98-99 140 but same thing. I have only owned up to 94 on the 140. No s class past that. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2022, at 3:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: > > >> >> Why do you think they get more ghetto attention than the e class? It seems >> they are usually more expensive to buy even used. > > Hmm. How to state tactfully. > The urban demographic that tends to buy the S Class used tends to buy them to > bolster an image of a higher end lifestyle, whereas the E Class would present > an appearance of a lesser, plebian lifestyle. > > In other words, these cars are purchased with money folks don't have, to buy > cars they don't need, to impress people they don't know or even like. > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E vs S
You’ve got to be willing to pay well for a nice example, too. You’re not going to get anything decent at Okie prices. -D > On Jul 9, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Hmmm ok makes sense. I have wanted to buy a later 220 that is sorted, but > they all seem to be either ghetto or both. Also somewhat been looking for a > 98-99 140 but same thing. I have only owned up to 94 on the 140. No s class > past that. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 9, 2022, at 3:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Why do you think they get more ghetto attention than the e class? It seems >>> they are usually more expensive to buy even used. >> >> Hmm. How to state tactfully. >> The urban demographic that tends to buy the S Class used tends to buy them >> to bolster an image of a higher end lifestyle, whereas the E Class would >> present an appearance of a lesser, plebian lifestyle. >> >> In other words, these cars are purchased with money folks don't have, to buy >> cars they don't need, to impress people they don't know or even like. >> >> >> Rick >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E vs S
Yes that is usually the case with the ghetto cars. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2022, at 3:12 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > And don’t forget the massive wheels that get added on, too. > > -D > >>> On Jul 9, 2022, at 4:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Why do you think they get more ghetto attention than the e class? It seems >>> they are usually more expensive to buy even used. >> >> Hmm. How to state tactfully. >> The urban demographic that tends to buy the S Class used tends to buy them >> to bolster an image of a higher end lifestyle, whereas the E Class would >> present an appearance of a lesser, plebian lifestyle. >> >> In other words, these cars are purchased with money folks don't have, to buy >> cars they don't need, to impress people they don't know or even like. >> >> >> Rick >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E vs S
Hmmm ok makes sense. I have wanted to buy a later 220 that is sorted, but they all seem to be either ghetto or both. Also somewhat been looking for a 98-99 140 but same thing. I have only owned up to 94 on the 140. No s class past that. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2022, at 3:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> >> Why do you think they get more ghetto attention than the e class? It seems >> they are usually more expensive to buy even used. > > Hmm. How to state tactfully. > The urban demographic that tends to buy the S Class used tends to buy them to > bolster an image of a higher end lifestyle, whereas the E Class would present > an appearance of a lesser, plebian lifestyle. > > In other words, these cars are purchased with money folks don't have, to buy > cars they don't need, to impress people they don't know or even like. > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD - 169k miles - $6,500
They've added some pics since I first saw the ad. Originally had just the first three or four. Looks like it has a few spots where rust is showing but doesn't look terribly bad yet. Still, there's always more rust than you can see. On Sat, Jul 9, 2022, at 4:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Crack-ish but might be worth trying to bargain them down to $3k. > > On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 12:54 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: >> Seems crackish, but hard to say from those screenshot pics. At least it has >> NEW TIRES. >> >> https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/florence-1985-mercedes-300td/7506645336.html >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E vs S
Yup. Naples, FL, home of lots of old rich white guys is a virtual candy store when it comes to cars like this. In fact, there are a couple of dealers in that area who specialize in cars like this. -D > On Jul 9, 2022, at 4:48 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Given this, what is a good source for an unmolested S class? Estate sales? > Retirement areas where old folks eventually sell cars because they can no > longer drive? > > > On Sat, Jul 9, 2022, at 3:54 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >> E class is more a buy and hold car, whereas the S class is a three year >> lease and dump. After four or five owners they get pretty trashed. >> Usually by the third owner maintenance, upkeep, and repair is out the >> window. The car is a "status symbol" that gets no love. But that's my >> opinion, not necessarily a fact. More of an observation. >> >> >> Rick >> >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Sent: July 9, 2022 2:26 PM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Cc: ka...@striplin.net >> Subject: [MBZ] E vs S >> >> I have for the most part always preferred S class cars. Specially 126 >> and 140. I have never owned anything 220 or newer. The reason for this >> is because it seems like 140 and up S classes that are nice are hard to >> find. They are usually ghettofied, beat to death etc. While this does >> happen with the e class, it seems like those are usually better taken >> care of. Anybody got any theories on that? You would think the cars >> that sold new for much much more would be better taken care of. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD - 169k miles - $6,500
Crack-ish but might be worth trying to bargain them down to $3k. On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 12:54 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Seems crackish, but hard to say from those screenshot pics. At least it > has NEW TIRES. > > > https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/florence-1985-mercedes-300td/7506645336.html > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E vs S
Given this, what is a good source for an unmolested S class? Estate sales? Retirement areas where old folks eventually sell cars because they can no longer drive? On Sat, Jul 9, 2022, at 3:54 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > E class is more a buy and hold car, whereas the S class is a three year > lease and dump. After four or five owners they get pretty trashed. > Usually by the third owner maintenance, upkeep, and repair is out the > window. The car is a "status symbol" that gets no love. But that's my > opinion, not necessarily a fact. More of an observation. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: July 9, 2022 2:26 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: ka...@striplin.net > Subject: [MBZ] E vs S > > I have for the most part always preferred S class cars. Specially 126 > and 140. I have never owned anything 220 or newer. The reason for this > is because it seems like 140 and up S classes that are nice are hard to > find. They are usually ghettofied, beat to death etc. While this does > happen with the e class, it seems like those are usually better taken > care of. Anybody got any theories on that? You would think the cars > that sold new for much much more would be better taken care of. > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E vs S
And don’t forget the massive wheels that get added on, too. -D > On Jul 9, 2022, at 4:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Why do you think they get more ghetto attention than the e class? It seems >> they are usually more expensive to buy even used. > > Hmm. How to state tactfully. > The urban demographic that tends to buy the S Class used tends to buy them to > bolster an image of a higher end lifestyle, whereas the E Class would present > an appearance of a lesser, plebian lifestyle. > > In other words, these cars are purchased with money folks don't have, to buy > cars they don't need, to impress people they don't know or even like. > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E vs S
> Why do you think they get more ghetto attention than the e class? It seems > they are usually more expensive to buy even used. Hmm. How to state tactfully. The urban demographic that tends to buy the S Class used tends to buy them to bolster an image of a higher end lifestyle, whereas the E Class would present an appearance of a lesser, plebian lifestyle. In other words, these cars are purchased with money folks don't have, to buy cars they don't need, to impress people they don't know or even like. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E vs S
I would say that’s a pretty fair observation. I would agree that E class cars are more likely to be bought and held for a while. -D > On Jul 9, 2022, at 3:54 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > E class is more a buy and hold car, whereas the S class is a three year lease > and dump. After four or five owners they get pretty trashed. Usually by the > third owner maintenance, upkeep, and repair is out the window. The car is a > "status symbol" that gets no love. But that's my opinion, not necessarily a > fact. More of an observation. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: July 9, 2022 2:26 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: ka...@striplin.net > Subject: [MBZ] E vs S > > I have for the most part always preferred S class cars. Specially 126 and > 140. I have never owned anything 220 or newer. The reason for this is because > it seems like 140 and up S classes that are nice are hard to find. They are > usually ghettofied, beat to death etc. While this does happen with the e > class, it seems like those are usually better taken care of. Anybody got any > theories on that? You would think the cars that sold new for much much more > would be better taken care of. > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E vs S
Why do you think they get more ghetto attention than the e class? It seems they are usually more expensive to buy even used. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2022, at 2:55 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > E class is more a buy and hold car, whereas the S class is a three year > lease and dump. After four or five owners they get pretty trashed. Usually by > the third owner maintenance, upkeep, and repair is out the window. The car is > a "status symbol" that gets no love. But that's my opinion, not necessarily a > fact. More of an observation. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: July 9, 2022 2:26 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: ka...@striplin.net > Subject: [MBZ] E vs S > > I have for the most part always preferred S class cars. Specially 126 and > 140. I have never owned anything 220 or newer. The reason for this is because > it seems like 140 and up S classes that are nice are hard to find. They are > usually ghettofied, beat to death etc. While this does happen with the e > class, it seems like those are usually better taken care of. Anybody got any > theories on that? You would think the cars that sold new for much much more > would be better taken care of. > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E vs S
E class is more a buy and hold car, whereas the S class is a three year lease and dump. After four or five owners they get pretty trashed. Usually by the third owner maintenance, upkeep, and repair is out the window. The car is a "status symbol" that gets no love. But that's my opinion, not necessarily a fact. More of an observation. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: July 9, 2022 2:26 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] E vs S I have for the most part always preferred S class cars. Specially 126 and 140. I have never owned anything 220 or newer. The reason for this is because it seems like 140 and up S classes that are nice are hard to find. They are usually ghettofied, beat to death etc. While this does happen with the e class, it seems like those are usually better taken care of. Anybody got any theories on that? You would think the cars that sold new for much much more would be better taken care of. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] E vs S
I have for the most part always preferred S class cars. Specially 126 and 140. I have never owned anything 220 or newer. The reason for this is because it seems like 140 and up S classes that are nice are hard to find. They are usually ghettofied, beat to death etc. While this does happen with the e class, it seems like those are usually better taken care of. Anybody got any theories on that? You would think the cars that sold new for much much more would be better taken care of. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof Sucks
A MIG welder, an angle grinder, and Bob's your uncle. On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 1:06 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Knowing dealers they will probably want to charge you an hour of labor for > a diagnosis fee to tell you how kind it will cost > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 9, 2022, at 12:50 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Probably. > > > > I’ll get a quote just for grins. > > > > -D > > > >> On Jul 9, 2022, at 1:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> I would think the dealer would charge an arm and a leg to do it. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > On Jul 9, 2022, at 12:23 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I was thinking about that as well, or seeing if Robert (the > upholstery shop owner) would just let me do it there. > >>> > >>> -D > >>> > > On Jul 9, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Can’t you have the headliner removed then do the work yourself then > take it back to replace the headliner? > > Sent from my iPhone > > >> On Jul 9, 2022, at 11:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > The ML550 sunroof has been non-functional since I bought it. I knew > this at the time, so no surprise. Not a big deal to me, but today more out > of curiosity than anything else I tore into it. > > > > Found the motor unplugged. Hmm. > > > > Plugged it in, tried to operate it. It tried to move, but wouldn’t > go full travel or close completely. Found some plastic pieces in the > tracks, not good. When it did move it was crooked in the opening, which > also wasn’t good. > > > > Used the manual crank on the motor to get everything back in place > and then went inside to do some research. > > > > Seems that the Webasto sunroof on these is a one-piece setup, much > of which is plastic (grr.) The plastic wears and is subject to lots of heat > in the roof, so it ages and gets brittle and breaks up. Only fix - $900 > part that requires removal of the headliner to replace. Bummer. > > > > However, I was planning on replacing the headliner, and my > upholstery guy is right up the street from the stealership and does a lot > of work for them. I may see if I can coordinate something between the two > so he can take the headliner out, run the car down to the dealer where they > can replace the mechanism and get things working, then take it back so > upholstery guy can finish the work. > > > > While it would still be expensive, probably over $1,000 at the > dealer alone, it would end up being a lot cheaper as I wouldn’t have to pay > them to R&R the headliner. > > > > I gotta think about this. > > > > -D > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you are wearing." "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http:
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof Sucks
Knowing dealers they will probably want to charge you an hour of labor for a diagnosis fee to tell you how kind it will cost Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2022, at 12:50 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Probably. > > I’ll get a quote just for grins. > > -D > >> On Jul 9, 2022, at 1:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I would think the dealer would charge an arm and a leg to do it. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Jul 9, 2022, at 12:23 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> I was thinking about that as well, or seeing if Robert (the upholstery >>> shop owner) would just let me do it there. >>> >>> -D >>> > On Jul 9, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: Can’t you have the headliner removed then do the work yourself then take it back to replace the headliner? Sent from my iPhone >> On Jul 9, 2022, at 11:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: > > The ML550 sunroof has been non-functional since I bought it. I knew this > at the time, so no surprise. Not a big deal to me, but today more out of > curiosity than anything else I tore into it. > > Found the motor unplugged. Hmm. > > Plugged it in, tried to operate it. It tried to move, but wouldn’t go > full travel or close completely. Found some plastic pieces in the tracks, > not good. When it did move it was crooked in the opening, which also > wasn’t good. > > Used the manual crank on the motor to get everything back in place and > then went inside to do some research. > > Seems that the Webasto sunroof on these is a one-piece setup, much of > which is plastic (grr.) The plastic wears and is subject to lots of heat > in the roof, so it ages and gets brittle and breaks up. Only fix - $900 > part that requires removal of the headliner to replace. Bummer. > > However, I was planning on replacing the headliner, and my upholstery guy > is right up the street from the stealership and does a lot of work for > them. I may see if I can coordinate something between the two so he can > take the headliner out, run the car down to the dealer where they can > replace the mechanism and get things working, then take it back so > upholstery guy can finish the work. > > While it would still be expensive, probably over $1,000 at the dealer > alone, it would end up being a lot cheaper as I wouldn’t have to pay them > to R&R the headliner. > > I gotta think about this. > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof Sucks
Probably. I’ll get a quote just for grins. -D > On Jul 9, 2022, at 1:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I would think the dealer would charge an arm and a leg to do it. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 9, 2022, at 12:23 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I was thinking about that as well, or seeing if Robert (the upholstery shop >> owner) would just let me do it there. >> >> -D >> On Jul 9, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Can’t you have the headliner removed then do the work yourself then take >>> it back to replace the headliner? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > On Jul 9, 2022, at 11:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: The ML550 sunroof has been non-functional since I bought it. I knew this at the time, so no surprise. Not a big deal to me, but today more out of curiosity than anything else I tore into it. Found the motor unplugged. Hmm. Plugged it in, tried to operate it. It tried to move, but wouldn’t go full travel or close completely. Found some plastic pieces in the tracks, not good. When it did move it was crooked in the opening, which also wasn’t good. Used the manual crank on the motor to get everything back in place and then went inside to do some research. Seems that the Webasto sunroof on these is a one-piece setup, much of which is plastic (grr.) The plastic wears and is subject to lots of heat in the roof, so it ages and gets brittle and breaks up. Only fix - $900 part that requires removal of the headliner to replace. Bummer. However, I was planning on replacing the headliner, and my upholstery guy is right up the street from the stealership and does a lot of work for them. I may see if I can coordinate something between the two so he can take the headliner out, run the car down to the dealer where they can replace the mechanism and get things working, then take it back so upholstery guy can finish the work. While it would still be expensive, probably over $1,000 at the dealer alone, it would end up being a lot cheaper as I wouldn’t have to pay them to R&R the headliner. I gotta think about this. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof Sucks
I would think the dealer would charge an arm and a leg to do it. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2022, at 12:23 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > I was thinking about that as well, or seeing if Robert (the upholstery shop > owner) would just let me do it there. > > -D > >> On Jul 9, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Can’t you have the headliner removed then do the work yourself then take it >> back to replace the headliner? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Jul 9, 2022, at 11:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> The ML550 sunroof has been non-functional since I bought it. I knew this >>> at the time, so no surprise. Not a big deal to me, but today more out of >>> curiosity than anything else I tore into it. >>> >>> Found the motor unplugged. Hmm. >>> >>> Plugged it in, tried to operate it. It tried to move, but wouldn’t go full >>> travel or close completely. Found some plastic pieces in the tracks, not >>> good. When it did move it was crooked in the opening, which also wasn’t >>> good. >>> >>> Used the manual crank on the motor to get everything back in place and then >>> went inside to do some research. >>> >>> Seems that the Webasto sunroof on these is a one-piece setup, much of which >>> is plastic (grr.) The plastic wears and is subject to lots of heat in the >>> roof, so it ages and gets brittle and breaks up. Only fix - $900 part that >>> requires removal of the headliner to replace. Bummer. >>> >>> However, I was planning on replacing the headliner, and my upholstery guy >>> is right up the street from the stealership and does a lot of work for >>> them. I may see if I can coordinate something between the two so he can >>> take the headliner out, run the car down to the dealer where they can >>> replace the mechanism and get things working, then take it back so >>> upholstery guy can finish the work. >>> >>> While it would still be expensive, probably over $1,000 at the dealer >>> alone, it would end up being a lot cheaper as I wouldn’t have to pay them >>> to R&R the headliner. >>> >>> I gotta think about this. >>> >>> -D >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof Sucks
I was thinking about that as well, or seeing if Robert (the upholstery shop owner) would just let me do it there. -D > On Jul 9, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Can’t you have the headliner removed then do the work yourself then take it > back to replace the headliner? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 9, 2022, at 11:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> The ML550 sunroof has been non-functional since I bought it. I knew this at >> the time, so no surprise. Not a big deal to me, but today more out of >> curiosity than anything else I tore into it. >> >> Found the motor unplugged. Hmm. >> >> Plugged it in, tried to operate it. It tried to move, but wouldn’t go full >> travel or close completely. Found some plastic pieces in the tracks, not >> good. When it did move it was crooked in the opening, which also wasn’t good. >> >> Used the manual crank on the motor to get everything back in place and then >> went inside to do some research. >> >> Seems that the Webasto sunroof on these is a one-piece setup, much of which >> is plastic (grr.) The plastic wears and is subject to lots of heat in the >> roof, so it ages and gets brittle and breaks up. Only fix - $900 part that >> requires removal of the headliner to replace. Bummer. >> >> However, I was planning on replacing the headliner, and my upholstery guy is >> right up the street from the stealership and does a lot of work for them. I >> may see if I can coordinate something between the two so he can take the >> headliner out, run the car down to the dealer where they can replace the >> mechanism and get things working, then take it back so upholstery guy can >> finish the work. >> >> While it would still be expensive, probably over $1,000 at the dealer alone, >> it would end up being a lot cheaper as I wouldn’t have to pay them to R&R >> the headliner. >> >> I gotta think about this. >> >> -D >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2005 E320 CDI - 140k miles - $8,000
"Stage 1 tune that was programmed by German Diesel based out of Tennessee." Rebuilt title. https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/hickory-hills-2005-mercedes-e320-cdi/7506319426.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof Sucks
Pull the headliner out, MIG the sunroof closed and solid, then have a new headliner installed - fixed permanently. On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 11:52 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Can’t you have the headliner removed then do the work yourself then take > it back to replace the headliner? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 9, 2022, at 11:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > The ML550 sunroof has been non-functional since I bought it. I knew > this at the time, so no surprise. Not a big deal to me, but today more out > of curiosity than anything else I tore into it. > > > > Found the motor unplugged. Hmm. > > > > Plugged it in, tried to operate it. It tried to move, but wouldn’t go > full travel or close completely. Found some plastic pieces in the tracks, > not good. When it did move it was crooked in the opening, which also wasn’t > good. > > > > Used the manual crank on the motor to get everything back in place and > then went inside to do some research. > > > > Seems that the Webasto sunroof on these is a one-piece setup, much of > which is plastic (grr.) The plastic wears and is subject to lots of heat in > the roof, so it ages and gets brittle and breaks up. Only fix - $900 part > that requires removal of the headliner to replace. Bummer. > > > > However, I was planning on replacing the headliner, and my upholstery > guy is right up the street from the stealership and does a lot of work for > them. I may see if I can coordinate something between the two so he can > take the headliner out, run the car down to the dealer where they can > replace the mechanism and get things working, then take it back so > upholstery guy can finish the work. > > > > While it would still be expensive, probably over $1,000 at the dealer > alone, it would end up being a lot cheaper as I wouldn’t have to pay them > to R&R the headliner. > > > > I gotta think about this. > > > > -D > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you are wearing." "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1991 190E 2.6 - 290k miles - $4,900
A lot of work history listed. Needs a cat. Too bad about the color scheme. https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/valparaiso-mercedes-benz-190e-26/7506432388.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1985 300TD - 169k miles - $6,500
Seems crackish, but hard to say from those screenshot pics. At least it has NEW TIRES. https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/florence-1985-mercedes-300td/7506645336.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof Sucks
Can’t you have the headliner removed then do the work yourself then take it back to replace the headliner? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2022, at 11:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > The ML550 sunroof has been non-functional since I bought it. I knew this at > the time, so no surprise. Not a big deal to me, but today more out of > curiosity than anything else I tore into it. > > Found the motor unplugged. Hmm. > > Plugged it in, tried to operate it. It tried to move, but wouldn’t go full > travel or close completely. Found some plastic pieces in the tracks, not > good. When it did move it was crooked in the opening, which also wasn’t good. > > Used the manual crank on the motor to get everything back in place and then > went inside to do some research. > > Seems that the Webasto sunroof on these is a one-piece setup, much of which > is plastic (grr.) The plastic wears and is subject to lots of heat in the > roof, so it ages and gets brittle and breaks up. Only fix - $900 part that > requires removal of the headliner to replace. Bummer. > > However, I was planning on replacing the headliner, and my upholstery guy is > right up the street from the stealership and does a lot of work for them. I > may see if I can coordinate something between the two so he can take the > headliner out, run the car down to the dealer where they can replace the > mechanism and get things working, then take it back so upholstery guy can > finish the work. > > While it would still be expensive, probably over $1,000 at the dealer alone, > it would end up being a lot cheaper as I wouldn’t have to pay them to R&R the > headliner. > > I gotta think about this. > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sunroof Sucks
The ML550 sunroof has been non-functional since I bought it. I knew this at the time, so no surprise. Not a big deal to me, but today more out of curiosity than anything else I tore into it. Found the motor unplugged. Hmm. Plugged it in, tried to operate it. It tried to move, but wouldn’t go full travel or close completely. Found some plastic pieces in the tracks, not good. When it did move it was crooked in the opening, which also wasn’t good. Used the manual crank on the motor to get everything back in place and then went inside to do some research. Seems that the Webasto sunroof on these is a one-piece setup, much of which is plastic (grr.) The plastic wears and is subject to lots of heat in the roof, so it ages and gets brittle and breaks up. Only fix - $900 part that requires removal of the headliner to replace. Bummer. However, I was planning on replacing the headliner, and my upholstery guy is right up the street from the stealership and does a lot of work for them. I may see if I can coordinate something between the two so he can take the headliner out, run the car down to the dealer where they can replace the mechanism and get things working, then take it back so upholstery guy can finish the work. While it would still be expensive, probably over $1,000 at the dealer alone, it would end up being a lot cheaper as I wouldn’t have to pay them to R&R the headliner. I gotta think about this. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
