Re: [MBZ] Here come the diesels!
Mitch Haley wrote: My dad's cousin owns a plumbing company. I was at his shop one saturday while he was outfitting a new truck (F250). I asked him why gas, and the reason he gave wasn't the $4k extra purchase price, it was too expensive to maintain. He wasn't willing to do an $80 oil change every 3000 miles. Was it a new or used F250? If it was new surely the owners manual said you could change the oil at larger intervals than that!!! My CDI says I'm good for 13k miles. Although, I'm not towing 10k lbs. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.T. AZ Weather
Zoltan Finks wrote: Yes, I used to absolutely love the smell of rain in Tucson. Is it the Desert Broom plant? I can identify the bush visually, but never knew its name. I really enjoyed the monsoon season. Temps would drop 30 degrees in minutes and the streets would flood and we got to watch cars flooding out. And the lightening was spectacular. I know I'm making you jealous, Phoenixite. As for Western Washington, we set record highs about a week ago with some areas hitting 90. Now we're back to a bit below normal. This winter has been quite below normal I understand. Down in MS we occasionally get that rain smell... doesn't happen very often though (despite all the rain we get). After going to visit in Phoenix last month I really want to move back out there. It will take at least 5 years for me to be able to pull that off, and its more likely going to take 10 years. Want to get my house to a selling point and start finish my masters while I can for free (hooray for being a University employee). Just curious, but why did you leave Tucson for Washington? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $12/gallon gas?
Donald Snook wrote: It is a MASSIVE field. Of course, this is what the geological reports estimate. It could be even bigger than we think OR smaller than we think. After Royce's comments, I wonder how much of it we can actually get out? Depending on the type of oil,etc it may not be as massive as we think since a lot of it could be impossible (aka expensive) to extract. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!
Royce Engler wrote: Sorry to make this so long...I just couldn't let it go unchallenged. I appreciated all the information at least! Thanks for writing it up :) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Pensacola?
Yep. I'm going to Pensacola for a week of training in National Instruments' LabView. For those programmers out there it is a *graphical* programming language. I'm not a big fan of it, but it pays the bills. Wonko the Sane wrote: computer engineering On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps I was not paying attention, but what sort of work are you in? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!
What I was getting at is there seems to be a net loss of oil there... I think most people are smart enough to realize that is a bad idea for making money. Now if it takes a barrel of oil to make 1.1 barrel from oil shale then there is still a net positive amount of oil. But 3 barrels of oil to get 1? That makes NO sense. R A Bennell wrote: Unfortunately, they is YOU, as most of what comes out of Alberta goes South. How much of your available fuel stock are you prepared to do without? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 5:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price! Peter Frederick wrote: Horrible environmental mess and it takes several barrels of oil to produce one barrel from the shale Seems to me like they should stop getting oil from there then. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $12/gallon gas?
R A Bennell wrote: So, how are the tourists going to get to Dubai - on sail boats? Or overland by Camel?? And, if the economy keeps going downhill, who is going to have money to go on long distance holidays to places like Dubai (which is not exactly high on my wish list of places to visit)?? The source of oil they can make money off of is drying up... so they have to make money elsewhere, which they've chosen to be tourism. The tourists are free to use oil from wherever they want. I never said *all* the oil was drying up everywhere. Just the UAE's. There are other economies besides ours that can supply tourists. It isn't high on my list either, but if I had gobs of money laying around I think it would be pretty cool to see some of their engineering feats. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here come the diesels!
Kevin Kraly wrote: I would hope that I can extend the interval for the next oil change out to at least 5-6Kmi. The service sticker only gives me 3K (not sure if warranty would be void if I let it go longer). http://www.everytime.cummins.com/every/applications/ram67_maintenance.jsp Yep, 7500 miles. It sounds like there is supposed to be an oil change monitoring system that will let you know when you need to change the oil based on your driving habits. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $12/gallon gas?
OK Don wrote: The airlines are ordering new planes that are more effecient to replace the old ones that burn too much fuel per mile - a reaction to the higher prices of fuel, not a comment on how much oil is left. Also, the planes they are replacing have a finite lifespan. I don't think they are going out and buying new planes to replace them for the sole reason of fuel economy, but it might be leading to an early retirement ;) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fat man in the heat question
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Throw a damp (not dripping) towel over that fan, or better yet, hang the towel from the ceiling with the last few inches submerged in a pan of water. Instant swamp cooler! Not when the RH is as high as it is in the south!! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fat man in the heat question
Alex Chamberlain wrote: You win, I've never lived anywhere where it got very humid in the summer (thankfully). It is currently 78% outside... ugh. Works well here (in the PNW) except in August. They work great in Phoenix until the monsoon season starts in July. I think they worked pretty much all summer in Vegas, which gets even less rain a year than Phoenix. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fat man in the heat question
Mitch Haley wrote: I'm living in a house with a lot of the glass facing west-southwest. On a sunny January afternoon, 20F outdoors translates into 76-78F indoors. That would equate to a $300 summer electric bill in my area! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here come the diesels!
I think the data he gets comes from the older cars... With the newer engines that are more efficient and have tighter clearances it might (should) be different. I've seen oil analysis from multiple OM60x engines going 10k miles or more with the oil analysis being just fine. My owners manual states 13k miles as well. I don't think we're the only two changing them at 13k mile intervals either ;) John John Freer wrote: 7500 miles on M1? If so, then MB is way off base as I just had the oil changed in my CDI and it is telling me I have 13K to go or one year. On 5/23/08, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've done a number of TBN (total base number) tests for customers over the years and they all seem to say the same thing - the additives that control the acids created by the combustion process are typically exhausted by around 7500 miles. Based on this I generally suggest oil be changed every 5000 miles or so which allows some safety factor as the TBN can be depleted at different rates depending on a variety of factors. Of course, some customers have special situations which dictate shorter changes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Benz/VW heresy
Wonko the Sane wrote: Forgive me Lord, but I think I've decided to park my 240D in favor of driving my turbo-diesel VW. This is somewhat the result of my seeing diesel prices in my small town hit $4.55 per gallon. What happened to the 190D? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Here come the diesels!
http://gas2.org/2008/05/21/clean-diesel-cars-coming-to-us-this-fall-2008-2010-timeline/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anybody in Pensacola?
I'm hopefully going to be in Pensacola for business the week of June 2nd... Anybody want to meet up for dinner or something? Also, if anybody has any good hotel recommendations I'd appreciate those. :) Thanks! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody in Pensacola?
Wonko the Sane wrote: The beach is very nice there, so if possible spend the money and get a room as close as possible to the water. If you are on a budget, there used to be (in 1981) lots of cheaper places close to the Naval Air Station. Work is paying for it, and they don't have a problem with a nicer hotel so long as it isn't obscene. A business class hotel wouldn't be a problem at all. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MSU wins again!
http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/05/mississippi-sta.html http://domesticfuel.com/2008/05/21/bulldogs-biodiesel-dominate-challenge-x/ http://fastlane.gmblogs.com/archives/2008/05/challenge_x_cro_1.html I wasn't in the competition, but I work closely with the folks who are and they definitely deserve the award. The vehicle drives/feels just like a factory vehicle!! 34mpg on the highway isn't too bad for an Equinox either ;) and thats real world driving (we got that driving the car to Huntsville for a conference). It was a lot of work, but they were exposed to MANY opportunities and experiences through the program (interviewed by Jay Leno, able to attend the California auto show, free training and travel to different places, etc etc). I think I'm going to join the bandwagon with the next competition, EcoCAR. :) John the MSU cheerleader ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel price!
Peter Frederick wrote: Horrible environmental mess and it takes several barrels of oil to produce one barrel from the shale Seems to me like they should stop getting oil from there then. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $12/gallon gas?
Peter Frederick wrote: What has happened is that the easy oil is pretty much gone -- no more drilling a hole and having it geyser out at you. This is also why Dubai has gone crazy. They know their oil revenue is about up so they are using the money they made to start a tourism based economy while they still can... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Gas Heat Exchangers was Hydrogen Power?
OK Don wrote: I wonder if the water's expansion would off-set the cooling of the exhaust (lowering pressure and volume). I think so... or at least thats how I read the whole 'conservation of energy' thing. If not, could this be a way to get low RPM boost - an alternative to the variable vane turbos? Water injection is typically used to cool down the air temperature AFTER the turbo (compressing the air adds LOTS of heat). Its the poor mans intercooler... You don't want to inject water before a turbocharger since a turbo spins at 100k+ RPM... water droplets wouldn't do kind things. In the original context of it being in the exhaust the water would probably evaporate, but then you really wouldn't get anything out of it. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Crack in the CDI's windshield
Well there is about an 8 inch crack in my windshield... grew 4 inches while the car was sitting in the heat. The rock hit right on the very edge of the glass, and thus the crack comes from the side of the glass. Is there any way to stop the crack from spreading? I doubt it... I really really don't want to find out how much this costs because of the automagic windshield wipers. It doesn't look like the sensors are embedded in the glass, but you never know... This thread scares me: http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=196483 I've put in a request for quote at Safelite... I believe this was the one mentioned as a good price a while back? John '05 CDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crack in the CDI's windshield
John Robbins wrote: I've put in a request for quote at Safelite... I believe this was the one mentioned as a good price a while back? Turns out they don't service my area... :( Got a quote for some random area (Huntsville) that they do cover... EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS!!! Guess I'll be going to my local body guy for lunch tomorrow and calling my insurance company! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crack in the CDI's windshield
Tom Hargrave wrote: The crack is in the outside layer you can stop it by drilling a small hole into the very end of the crack. Drill through the outer layer only you really need a mill bit cooling water to do it right. The radius of the hole will act as a strain relief will stop the crack from spreading. Fill the small hole with some RTV, level with the outside of the windshield. Sounds like something I would easily screw up. Will see if the body man can stop the crack. It isn't in my line of sight, but it is pretty close. Its an inch above the cutoff line for tinting the windshield, but the sun glares off of it noticeably. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Civic
Mitch Haley wrote: I assume it's automatic? It is a manual. He bought the 2.5T (that I own now... still for sale!) when he was injured to the point he couldn't drive a standard. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crack in the CDI's windshield
R A Bennell wrote: Remember that it can be a safety issue as well. My understanding is that the windshield is a structural element in most cars these days. Excellent point! Besides, why would you want to drive around in a beautiful car with a broken windshield? I agree! :) Bill R wrote: Not sure what laws yoi work under, but while my car was still owned by my son in SC insurance companies were required to repair the glass and couldn't even put it on your file that it had been done. Very good info. According to the internet, a similar law is in place here, but they might be able to file it/raise my rates. There wasn't any info about that. After I get a quote, I'll call my insurance lady and see what she says. John Freer wrote: Let's try this again. Check with your MB service department as to who they use. I did that and guy came to my house and did a great job on my W140 and it was 180.00. Used grade A glass vs. seconds. The installer knew his rep was on the line since the MB dealer recommended him. Unfortunately, the two dealers closest to me are each 2 hours away (in the opposite direction no less). Thanks guys! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crack in the CDI's windshield
John Freer wrote: I just asked the service department who they used but didn't use the dealer. I called the installer direct. Whoever they use is going to be two hours away though :( John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was: NOT what I wanted, now engineers
Loren Faeth wrote: Why should shop guys have to fix or hide the errors of incompetent engineers? Again, I am not flaming engineers, just pointing out the weakness of many I have come across. I am myself an engineer, although i have never wanted the P.E. ball and chain of legal responsibility. There are many competent engineers. It is, if anything, a condemnation of engineering curriculum in college. I wouldn't blame a university (mostly)... I think it is just a matter of the top 10-20% of engineers are just that, and you have many more mediocre engineers that don't care, don't want to know, etc. I don't think a university has any chance of changing that. My field is computer engineering, and it is going to be interesting to see how long it takes for P.E. mandates. Things like medical equipment, airplanes (fly by wire), and whatnot will probably end up with them... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.2 manual on Ebay
R A Bennell wrote: WHY does every ad for a diesel suggest bio-diesel I assume when they say that they are suggesting garbage oil so it will be cheap ( and will ruin what was a nice car ). If someone suggested they planned to do that to my poor old MB, I wouldn't sell it to them. I would want someone who planned to treat it right. I think you are confusing Biodiesel with WVO or SVO (waste/straight vegetable oil). The WVO is what has to be heated, etc to not ruin the engine. Biodiesel won't cause those problems at all so long as you have rubber fuel lines that are biodiesel resistant. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190E mileage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, for under two grand, how badly can you be hurt, anyway? Thats funny!! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.2 manual on Ebay
R A Bennell wrote: No I am aware of the differences. I suggest the party placing the ad is the one who confuses the issue (perhaps deliberately). No argument from me then :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T News Server
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using Giganews, I think I'm getting hammered price wise, about $250/year. What newsgroups are you hosting? I don't have any suggestions, but that doesn't seem like a service that should cost all that much. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lawsuit over a Mercedes
Donald Snook wrote: I was reading the Journal of the Kansas Bar Association today and it has reports of recent decisions by the Kansas Court of Appeals. There was a case about a guy who bought a 1995 Mercedes (it just says it was a 320) for $17,000 in January 2005. It had over 135,000 miles. The new owners discovered that the A/C didn't work. Of course, it was the evaporator. They sued under the implied warranty of merchantability. One of the seller's defenses was that he lost money on the sale. I find that hard to believe. A ten year old E320 with over 135,000 miles cannot possibly be worth $17,000. At any rate, the decision of the Court is pretty interesting. Here is the text of the decision. I agree with the dissenting judge. IANAL, but if the car sold for fair market value for a 10 year old car, nobody checked the A/C, etc then I don't think the Hodges had any claim. However, since they payed $17k for it... I agree with the dissenting judge. For that price you would expect a car in near-mint condition! If I read that correctly, if there was an individual selling that car instead of a dealer they couldn't sue about an implied warranty of merchantability? This would be good to know for all of us that sell cars... So how much would all of those attorney fees cost? Surely more than the $4k in question! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Crazy Quantum
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190221724964 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crazy Quantum
Tom Hargrave wrote: $4500 is a little high for a VW wagon... Just a little ;) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] was diesel, now Motorcycles for Bob/NOT!
Loren Faeth wrote: If you study motorcycle statistics, you will find most accidents are inexperienced riders on Harleys, or imitation harleys. THey are too heavy for most riders, and not a way to get good mileage either. Inexperienced Harley drivers beat out the inexperienced crotch rocket folks? Impressive! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diesel
Robert Rentfro wrote: And, may I add, my 300D getting no better than 22mpg is annoying. You could always buy my 300D. ;) Gets 29MPG driving like a madman. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 service CD
Don (the Wonko one) has them. I gave him the W124 CDs at the IowaQ... so he has those now as well. Mitch Haley wrote: Didn't Dan or Don or Jim or somebody have a server to download those at one time? I got 116, 201 and 123 from that other site (braingears?) several years ago when it took me 20 hours to download a CD. Wilton Strickland wrote: Will the factory service CD help me significantly for evaporator/dash, etc, removal on my 87 300D? 'Anybody have good deal on one? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 service CD
Mitch Haley wrote: Didn't Wonko take down his web server? Not a clue. I wouldn't be surprised to see Wonko burn copies and mail them to Wilton. I've got a webserver I can put the W124 and W116 CDs on, but it would be on an individual basis... if Wonko doesn't have his stuff anymore let me know Wilton. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Linux Query
Jeff Zedic wrote: I think we have about 11 people in total. More than 11 systems running Linux but I'm looking for the percentage of listers not systems. Next I'd need to have an idea of how many members are here. I think there are a LOT of lurkers. Kaleb can inform us. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SOS - Sluggo 1985 300CD
andrew strasfogel wrote: Hey stay focussed! This is NOT about either Clinton. Upon more rigorous road testing, the dealer ascertained that car still refused to shift into 4th gear despite the linkage adjustment. Further shop testing diagnosed the front tranmission pump was leaking (internally), thereby preventing adequate pressure to get the car to shift into fourth. They claim that replacing the pump ($1300) will solve the problem. This is cheaper than a rebuild ($1900 at an indy shop) and way cheaper than installing a factory rebuilt transmission ($4500). Any advice or comment? SWMBO is leaning toward having them replace the pump. Get a rebuilt from Rusty for $1900. It has a 20k mile warranty that includes labor (IIRC). Rusty's transmission also includes a torque converter. If you're going to go replace the pump get the whole thing done... or get a used tranny from a junkyard. My $.02 John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SOS - Sluggo 1985 300CD
Rolf wrote: Again, to each their own, some like to drive without having to pay attention to whats really going on. Thats a little over-the-top... I like to drive an auto because I'm lazy, but I still pay attention to whats going on around me. If I lived in a very urban environment I would probably want an auto as well. That said, I **HATE** changing ATF. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SOS - Sluggo 1985 300CD
R A Bennell wrote: Don't you just use your $2 super sucker and clean it out through the fill tube? I've yet to make one of those... Even then changing the filter with all the ATF dripping from the valve body is still a bunch of fun. I guess I could suck it out and come back a day later? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] evading state sales tax
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example, cars bought in Oregon (no sales tax) and registered in WA. You get to pay state sales tax _anyway_. In Washington, you are also fined significantly and get your name in the paper. Buyers of high-end motor homes have been publicly disgraced in the past here. For vehicles? I bought my CDI in Alabama, and since I was out of state, I didn't pay any AL tax. When I registered the car in MS I had to pay the same tax I would have if I bought the car at a local dealer. No fines or anything... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] For Sale: 1992 300D 2.5T
My brother has decided to be fiscally conservative (unlike the example I'm setting for him), and has decided he doesn't need two cars. So the 2.5T is officially for sale. 1992 300D 2.5T, 303k miles, Starkville, MS http://picasaweb.google.com/Tymbrymi/92_300D I want $5k, and it needs new tires. The center drag link for the steering went bad, and the front tires went nearly bald (nearly to the wear markers) before I had the chance to fix it. Then I had a flat tire that cut a sidewall... So if you were to make a cross country trip you wouldn't have a spare tire. I'll gladly put on a set of tires of your choice for cost if you would like. Although I'm not 100% sure if there needs to be an alignment after the drag-link replacement. I doubt it since there isn't any adjustment on it, but you never know. Since I bought it at 292k... --New windshield, rust repair, repainted roof and c pillars ($1200) --Euro headlights from Katmac Imports (not Bosch, but still good) --Rebuilt injectors at local Bosch shop --New glowplugs I have been using Mobil 1 5w-40 Turbo Diesel Truck. Same as the Delvac1 synthetic the truckers use. I've changed it ~3 times in the 10k miles I've owned it. I have records (of when I changed it, not oil purchase receipts). There is one spot of rust bubbling up underneath the paint in the center of the passenger door. That is the only body rust I know of. The car did come from Ohio, and a lot of fasteners, etc have rust on them. I believe the body to be straight though. The trunk lid has a few scratches on it. The interior is in very good shape. The carpets are a little worn/sunwashed, but Rusty sells OE floormat sets for $100. The drivers seat has a little wear on it, there are two small tears shown in the pictures. All the other seats are in great shape. The worst thing about the interior is the little sliding wood lid for the center console compartment. The latch part at the end has become disconnected from the wood that rolls. I have it taken apart and it should be an easy fix with a little glue. Mechanical work it needs: The brakes are *mildly* warped and there is a lip on the rim of the front rotors. There is a lifter tick. Possibly needs alignment. The transmission shifts a little rough for my liking under moderate throttle (just fine at light throttle). The idle isn't perfectly smooth (smoothest of all the diesels I've ridden in minus my CDI). I am the 4th owner, Sunil was the 3rd, the 2nd owner owned the car from 200k to 286k. The second owner never sent Sunil his records, so there are no receipts but he told Sunil that a lot of work was done. I have all the records from the first owner. The second owner supposedly replaced the head gasket, tranny, and suspension. The lifter tick makes me wonder about the headwork, but it is possible for it to have failed after it was done. 10k miles of synthetic haven't cleared it up... Overall it is a very nice 16 year old car. It needs a few little things to get it in perfect shape, but I don't need four Mercedes, especially with one of them being a CDI. Up till I bought the CDI I was planning on taking this car to Phoenix, and the car easily made the trip up to the IowaQ. Let me know if you guys are interested... I will gladly meet anyone at the Jackson airport. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 evaporator RR [was: 124 cooling (A/C) system]
R A Bennell wrote: That is truly ridiculous. The engineers who design these things should be sent into the field to perform repairs on some of their designs. It might result in better design. Unfortunately, MB is not alone. I have done a Taurus heater core that required almost that level of dismantling and I understand the F150 trucks that I currently have are no fun to do either. There should be a little door that requires the removal of 4 screws and the offending part should slide on out. If there was a way to do that don't you think they would have done it that way? What is your plan to put all that together and only need an access panel? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 evaporator RR [was: 124 cooling (A/C) system]
R A Bennell wrote: I truly believe that anyone who can come up with a complicated mess like that can find a way to do it better. Certainly, but the engineers were given design requirements that weren't 100% in their control. Ie, it has to fit under this dashboard, and you can't cut any holes in the firewall (safety and sound problems?). There are compromises in every design decision in that car, and putting the evaporator in the middle of the dash is a result of that. Besides, SOMETHING is going to be buried deep in the dash, what else would you rather put there? Personally, the fact that you can remove all that stuff and put it back together in 10 hours (if you're an experienced mechanic) shows that a lot of good engineering went into putting all those parts together. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Bookmarks across multiple computers
Since we're on the topic of moving things from computer to comptuter, etc. thought I would mention foxmarks. It synchronizes bookmarks across multiple computers. I have the same bookmarks on my work computer, home desktop, laptop, and server. It is 99% transparent to keep them all synchronized. And its free! http://www.foxmarks.com/ :) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Linux Query
Wonko the Sane wrote: Three hour download / install to upgrade. Didn't see what changed -- but I did notice that it has a new KDE-Desktop (strange for a Gnome distro). I regret doing it, since I discovered after the upgrade that Auttomatix isn't going to be supported past 7.10 (what I was running previously). What is so special about Automatix? Adept for KDE works just fine for me. I have to use 8.04 since my Shuttle XPC has a funky ethernet driver that isn't supported in 7.10. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] computer OS other than MS
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN Charleston SC J63 wrote: So, can I make Linux work with Active Card Gold or Active Client? Please contact me offline if anyone has been down this path. Secure communication paths are available to me. I've tried to make Mozilla Firefox work for these military sites on my XP machine, can't do it and haven't found anyone that knows (but I haven't really tried very hard). If you can't get it to work with Firefox... odds are you won't in Linux seeing as there is no IE... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer
Jim Cathey wrote: Then take a look at how long it takes to open a spreadsheet. WTF? Have you used Office 2007? Took the nice *quick* Office 2003 apps that everyone was familiar with, and re-wrote the interface from SCRATCH. They also made it slower. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Linux Query
Jeff Zedic wrote: Since we're all talking computers, I was curious to find out how many of us are actually using Linux? My laptop and desktop run Windows XP with the stupid bubble theme turned off (looks like Win2k). I have no plans to change this for the immediate future... WinXP is fast, stable, runs everything I need it to, and is more minimalist as far as the user experience goes compared to KDE/Gnome. My server runs Kubuntu. Later this week I'll be upgrading my server to some new hardware. Shuttle XPC case (super small case) dual core Intel chip, 500GB 320GB hdd, Hauppage TV Tuner card, etc. I have a webserver, email server, file server, etc running on it. The main reason for the hardware upgrade is so I can connect the PC to my 42 TV (using the DVI output on the mobo). That way I can watch YouTube, MythTV(linux version of Tivo), and other HD content I have on it. The old computer simply doesn't have the horsepower to do all that media work. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Linux Query
Rolf wrote: MS Project. Ugh. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Linux Query
Rolf wrote: Are you kidding me? Its the only decent product out there I have ever seen. MS Project Enterprise is hands down the best thing on the market. Of course they had to buy the software from another company to do so but thats SOP for M$. Sounds like I haven't used the Enterprise version! The one I used wasn't all that fantastic... Then again, the class I used it in probably didn't use it in a way that it would be used in the real world (where it would make sense!). John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ebay WTF??
Rolf wrote: More than likely you got a virus that hacked the DNS resolver in IE. Since firefox isnt affected one can assume its not the hosts file. Pretty nice hack. These are my thoughts as well. This happened to my Dad's computer back in the day, and instead of eBay it blocked all the anti-virus websites. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green
Tom Hargrave wrote: Then there's the long term impact of compact florescent bulbs. Every one contains a bit of mercury. I don't know about you but I throw mine out when they burn out and I bet that 99% of the county does the same. So, do mercury tainted landfills appeal to you? Metal-halide, low-pressure sodium, and normal (tube) fluorescent bulbs also have mercury in them... I have no numbers, but I think the use of those bulbs far outnumber CFL usage. This has been an ongoing thing for quite some time now... its not a new problem. Eventually Joe Public will be made aware of the problem, and recycling centers for the public will be popularized. It also depends on the area. In the rural south it isn't as likely to be a problem as it would be for more urbanized areas with significantly denser populations (and thus much larger and more concentrated landfills). http://www.p2pays.org/mercury/lights.asp John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Feeling blue over trying to be green
Mitch Haley wrote: Can't remember if some players were supposed to stand near the target area and then throw them back in the next round, or was everybody supposed to stand behind the thrower at all times? I was watching some old (50's 60's) home movies with my Mom the other night... you threw it right next to the other kids... then they would throw them back to your side, etc. With my aim, somebody would've got one planted on their head. It does look like an awesome game though! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] grass
Curt Raymond wrote: Genius, bag up your clippings, send 'em in and then BUY them back... Wow and people wonder why the world is going to hell. You're paying for someone to perform the composting process... Sounds like good old capitalism to me! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer
archer wrote: What's the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu? Linux is able to have multiple window managers. Kubuntu uses the KDE window manager whereas Ubuntu uses Gnome. Each window manager provides the way you interface with your computer... its best seen with screenshots... KDE: http://kde.org/screenshots/kde350shots.php GNOME: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/screenshots.html http://www.lynucs.org/?gnome Did that help any? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens
Jim Cathey wrote: And it doesn't beep at me. Ever. I hate beeping. My mircowave gets upset if I haven't taken the food out fast enough for its liking... about every 30 seconds or so it beeps at me. Kinda overkill IMO. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put in left overs, push warm button and the are warm, regardless of weight, quantity, etc. How do they do that? How do they thaw red meat perfectly without cooking it a little? I wish mine would work that well! The meat always gets a little browned on the outside. Is this one of those permanent mount microwaves? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshield replacement
LWB250 wrote: Also, UI would highly advise that you buy a new seal - an OEM seal. It's good insurance. Isn't his 190D new enough that that isn't an issue? I know on the W123 and older cars there is no sealant... just the seal. In those cases it is very important to have the OE seal. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Windshield replacement
LWB250 wrote: Bzzzt. On the 123s and older there *is* a seal. You're thinking about 126 chassis cars, which have a windshield that is laid in place using some really nasty adhesive. Thats what I was trying to get at... guess I messed up in the wording somehow... The car that is getting the windshield replaced is a 190D, which should have the sealant instead of a rubber seal. Correct? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OK Don has a new car
Isn't that what he says every time he sells a nice car? Mitch Haley wrote: Isn't that what you say every time you sell a 2.5? Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yea, but I loved that car ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OK Don has a new car
Are you ever going to approve my message about the CDI that has pictures? Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yea, that is also true John Robbins wrote: Isn't that what he says every time he sells a nice car? Mitch Haley wrote: Isn't that what you say every time you sell a 2.5? Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yea, but I loved that car ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The CDI.... 5k miles later
This car can be summed up in one word: Ridiculous Ridiculus power, comfort, features, handling, etc. I bought the car with 68k miles on it and am up to 73k now, after this weekend it'll be up to 6k miles! The 4k mile trip to Phoenix helped it out a little bit ;) The car is an absolute dream on the highway. As Marshall always said the only difference between 60mph and 100mph is that the trees move by faster. Applying 1/4 throttle at 70mph will shoot you up to 95mph seemingly instantly, and you only notice it from glancing at the speedometer. IMO, all of you that complain about the new cars being full of plastic have never been in one. The materials used in the car all seem to be of the same type/caliber as all the Mercedes I've been in. None of that hard plastic junk you find in domestic vehicles. Everything is padded and elegant. The fit finish is first class as well. Also, all of the small doors (ashtray, etc) and the fold out cup holders unfold quietly and slowly. For example, on any other car, if you had fold out cup holders they would snap out and make all kinds of noise. In the CDI you push the release latch and it slowly and elegantly unfolds. IMO, this is what makes a Mercedes a Mercedes. There are lots of those little things on this car. The handling is typical Mercedes. Kinda rough at low speeds, but smooths out the faster you go. 45mph or so seems to be the magic speed that it calms down. In Phoenix it was hardly noticeable since the roads are in such good shape and you drive 45mph+ everywhere. However, in Starkville where the roads aren't so nice and the speed limits are 35mph its a little rough. No better or worse than the others I have. The transmission is also typical Mercedes... its noticeable. In almost all other (non MB) vehicles I've ridden in the transmission shifts are barely noticeable, but the MBs have always had noticeable shifts. Especially under medium throttle. The CDI is 10x better than any other MB I've driven, but I expected better. To be fair, I think part of it is the crazy torque the CDI produces. At full throttle its like driving a standard. full power - full power - computer backs off throttle - shift - computer re-applies throttle - full power - etc. It doesn't get off the throttle completely, but you can notice it. The transitions are smooth though! :) And as time passes it won't need re-adjustment constantly (I hate those mechanical adjustments!!!). It *is* significantly better than any of the mechanical adjustment cars I've driven, and if you get used to the shift points you can make it as smooth as any other car. I just expected that to be unnecessary. Overall, I'm very happy with the car. It has its few little quirks (like every car on the market), but they are far overshadowed by how fun the car is to drive and how nice it is. I've attached some pictures... One picture is of the instrument cluster somewhere on I-40. The MPG estimate is a little high (actual on that tank was 36.6 I think), but that is still awesome. Especially the way I drive. ;) The other picture is of the car at my Uncle's house. Its not black though.. its a dark gray that is slightly metallic. VERY pretty color. Bob R, how are you (or your wife) enjoying the E320? John -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: InPhoenix.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 94208 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080430/8c19884e/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: InstrumentCluster.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 70818 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080430/8c19884e/attachment-0001.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The CDI.... 5k miles later
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You should have stopped by on your way thru. I thought about it, but by the time my plans changed to where I had time for it I was about to hit the road and lose internet access. Stayed just below you in Shawnee Saturday night. I just cant get past that ugly instrument cluster though. You get used to it. The LCD display is *very* nice. The only problem is the graduations on the speedometer make it difficult to maintain speed in the city since in the US you technically can't use the right half of it. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The CDI.... 5k miles later
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Oh, thats way out west I think. could have put you up here for free Will keep that in mind next time :) Didn't want to invite myself over this time around... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive
archer wrote: A major hard drive mfg is selling a standalone unit that supposedly works like an internal hard drive complete with its own OS. It requires two USB jacks and cords, it's fairly small and compact, has (160 gig capacity?), sells for about $150, and seems to be targetted at travelers. I noticed them at Walmart. Anyone tried them yet? Sounds vaguely like a Network Area Storage (NAS). Do you have brand or model numbers? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive
Ed Booher wrote: I would have said NAS as well, but it requires two USB connections to the computer? That doesn't sound quite right. Unless this OS the drive is running is using the USB as a paired send and receive. Seen some Cisco gear that would take several varied connections, 56K, ISDN, Frac T and then combine them up to increase the overall speed. That could be an interesting item if they have some how bound two USB controllers together to increase the throughput to the system. Maybe the two USB connections are for hooking up additional external hard drives? Also, a friend recently bought a 2.5 based external harddrive, and it has lots of built-in tools and functionality on the hard drive (like those stupid U3 flash drives). It would install a CD-ROM drive and use the autostart facility in windows to launch their toolset. You could also access the HDD traditionally... Since it was based on a 2.5 laptop hard drive, it only requires 1 amp at 5V to run. The USB spec gives a max of 500mA per USB port, so the provided cable has one USB connection to the computer and a dummy branch off of that cable to get the other 500mA off the second port (only the VCC and ground pins are hooked up, no data lines). Usually you don't need to do that though. Now that I've remembered all that... the second is probably what it is. Is it a Maxtor unit? It was from Wal-mart and thats what he purchsed. Gerry, its junk IMO, and I would just get a normal external hard drive. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for some information - Carfax, etc
Ed Booher wrote: Looking for someone to Carfax my Mercedes. Curious to know how much Carfax knows about it It looks like it has the older style VIN. This is for your 1966 MB? Carfax doesn't go back that far because of the VIN style... I think it only goes back to the early 80's. The main reason I ask is because it throws more light on the fact that MB doesn't classify by engine, but by chassis. So do I need to be on the look out if I was in the market for a 300D, let's say, and someone had taken a 240D and changed the badges to 300D would the title say Model 240, or Model 0123? The W123 chassis has both 300D and 240D models (and others). They were the same chassis, but with different engines in them. To specify what engine is in them there is a second set of three numbers. For example a 78-80 300SD was the W116 chassis. The specific model is 116.120, so the vin starts as 116120. The .120 signifies that there was a OM617 turbodiesel in the car. The newer VINS do not contain a chassis number... the first few digits signify where the car is manufactured, etc. However, the model designation still lives on. For the CDI it is W211.026. It just isn't in the VIN anymore. Hope that made some sense! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (OT) general motors and their old tricks
Donald Snook wrote: I agree. There are a lot of cars out there that will give 75,000-100,000 of trouble free service. The only problem with a lot of these cars is that they will never get 200,000 miles or 300,000 miles. I don't know whether the new Mercedes will do that either. But, I know all of the Mercedes most of us own will. I'm on my way to finding out! I'm biased, but I have been very impressed with the build quality of the CDI. I don't know where anyone gets the idea that it is plasticy or has poor fit and finish. John '05 CDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Rusty Euro Audi Parts
Allan Streib wrote: Don't know how kosher it is but you can go into www.buymbparts.com -- go to the online catalog, select any year. Then, don't select a Mercedes model but click the Vehicle link at the top, then you can pick any vehicle in the WorldPac catalog, Ford, whatever. Now that is a nice little trick!! :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CYA on an eBay Sale
Rolf wrote: Its only $50. Send it with signature verification. $50 over the next highest bid. Could be a couple hundred dollars... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Diesel vs. Gasoline
Hendrik Fay wrote: wait for the tow truck because our super dooper efficient cars have fried electronics but wait the tow truck is broken down too because the you beaut CDI engine is not working. How many vehicles with EFI are out there? They seem to be pretty reliable... Although I wasn't around at the time, I imagine there were many similar sentiments when that came of age. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I found a car, so its time to get serious
Is the Bonneville's fuel mileage that much better to justify selling the explorer and finding out all the new vehicle's problems? My $.02 John Donald Snook wrote: I found a 1999 Pontiac Booneville that I want to buy. So, I need to sell my Explorer. For any of you that might be interested here is the information on it. It is a 4X4 with 115,000 miles. It is the 4.0 SOHC engine. It has the towing package, roof rack, running boards, nice wheels (factory alloy), nice shiny paint, nice interior. We bought it 3 years ago (from the local Ford Dealer) with about 75,000 miles. In that time the only things we have had to do was replace the freeze plugs (to correct a coolant seep). I have replaced the tires, and flushed and filled the coolant, transmission flush and replaced the fuel filter. It has been a trouble free car. Everything works. It really is a nice vehicle, but we don't need two SUV's. city mileage is not terrible, 20 mpg on 100% highway driving. Kelly Bluebook Private Party Value (good condition) $4505 NADA retail from $3850-$5700 Edmunds Appraisal $3800 -- $5200. SALE PRICE $3500 Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo
Rolf wrote: The other reason I like the w123 is headroom. I test drove some 124/201 and felt like I was in a Mitsubishi Eclipse or a Miata with the top down. Did you have the seats moved down all the way? The spiffy seat adjustments can make me feel tall (I'm 5'6) or really short... maybe you just didn't have time to fiddle with it enough? The only thing the om60x can offer is a little better fuel economy and performance. And of course more plastic than should be on a car. My W124s never felt any more plastic-y than my W116. My 190D on the other hand... You should drive a CDI. Not an OM60x... but still good stuff. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
Jim Cathey wrote: Doesn't make the job itself any less evil, consider the gas oven guards. We can change the jobs our society depends on to something a bit more productive and/or respectable. Comparing an IRS desk job to a guard job for the Holocaust is wrong by many orders of magnitude. Its reprehensible. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel-Electric for the Army
Loren Faeth wrote: Looks like a bantam/willys jeep redesigned for the video game generation. It is sure to draw fire, both verbal and literal because there is no apparent armor plate/bullet proof glass. Neither does the HMMWV... although that is still a valid criticism of the HMMWV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel-Electric for the Army
Allan Streib wrote: Reminds me of a question I had -- do hybrids such as the Prius use the electric drive motors at all times, and the gas engine is just basically a genset (like in a locomotive)? Or is there both a conventional and an electric drivetrain somehow? Like all good questions... It depends. There are parallel hybrids and series hybrids. Series hybrids use an engine to power a genset to power an electric motor. The goal here is to only run the engine in its most fuel efficient range... Parallel hybrids (I think most of the ones on the road are this way, our ChallengeX car is) have a normal ICE drivetrain and an electric motor. The engine is smaller than a non-hybrid for better fuel mileage, and the electric motor is used to assist the ICE so you get the performance of a much larger engine. The Next Big Thing(tm) is the Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle (PHEV). This is basically an electric car with a ~30-50 mile range on pure electric, with a small engine - genset as a range extender. The idea being that you only need to run on batteries for your daily commute, but you can still leave town if you need to. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Volt http://www.chevrolet.com/electriccar/ HTH! Not sure if I made any sense though.. ;) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel-Electric for the Army
Christopher McCann wrote: I wish I understood this better as a series hybrid is so simple and parallels are so complicated. The setup we use for ChallengeX is fairly simple... it's the controls that are complicated! The Equinox was an all-wheel drive car, and it was converted for the ICE to be FWD, and the electric motor would be RWD. I think commercial vehicles have some kind of crazy torque converter that combines the two. The simple version of the controls is that the engine does the brute force of the work (all the work on the highway and when maintaining speed) while the electric motor is there to make the car perform like a normal car since the engine is much smaller than a normal car. Of course, when braking it also acts as a generator. Did that help any? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel-Electric for the Army
Mitch Haley wrote: Some of the Voltsrabbit users have taken a diesel/automatic Rabbit front end and converted it to a pusher trailer for long range use. That way you aren't dragging the engine around on your daily commute. I remember that guys webpage... It was definitely an interesting mod!! Probably not ideal for the everyday driver though ;) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 05 CDI for 24k
Could you maybe send the actual craigslist link? This site said to disable some stuff on my browser... Kaleb C. Striplin, Okiebenz wrote: http://www.crazedlist.org/index.cgi?areas=127,200,207,231,320,100,293,322,323,13,210,287,288,315,326,328,307,344,345,346,347,349,98,11,190,223,224,225,339,340,280,350,351,99,221,222,29,30,367,218,369,371,50,385,386,54,70,132,15,21,23,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,308,396,397,398,399,400,401,53,165,47catAbbreviation=sssquery=mercedesminAsk=minmaxAsk=maxthiscat=8submit=Search ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 05 CDI for 24k
Sounds like a better deal than what I got... Oh well, I still like the car :) Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: damn, yea I will, 2005 E320 CDI - Dr. Owned Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008-04-17, 8:16AM 2005 Mercedes 320 CDI (turbo diesel). These are great cars getting around 38 MPG, full leather, sunroof, Navigation system, great tires, no dints, dings, paint damage and has never been in an accident. 55k miles and has always been garaged. Asking $24,000. * This item has been posted by-owner. * Location: LADUE * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/645559621.html John Robbins wrote: Could you maybe send the actual craigslist link? This site said to disable some stuff on my browser... Kaleb C. Striplin, Okiebenz wrote: http://www.crazedlist.org/index.cgi?areas=127,200,207,231,320,100,293,322,323,13,210,287,288,315,326,328,307,344,345,346,347,349,98,11,190,223,224,225,339,340,280,350,351,99,221,222,29,30,367,218,369,371,50,385,386,54,70,132,15,21,23,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,308,396,397,398,399,400,401,53,165,47catAbbreviation=sssquery=mercedesminAsk=minmaxAsk=maxthiscat=8submit=Search ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 05 CDI for 24k
I'll talk to my brother ;) While he had the car in Huntsville getting sat radio installed I was driving the 2.5T again... the CDI is all the more amazing after that. Made the W124 seem like a jalopy... which is impressive because they most certainly aren't! Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: you might as well have 2 of them John Robbins wrote: Sounds like a better deal than what I got... Oh well, I still like the car :) Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: damn, yea I will, 2005 E320 CDI - Dr. Owned Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008-04-17, 8:16AM 2005 Mercedes 320 CDI (turbo diesel). These are great cars getting around 38 MPG, full leather, sunroof, Navigation system, great tires, no dints, dings, paint damage and has never been in an accident. 55k miles and has always been garaged. Asking $24,000. * This item has been posted by-owner. * Location: LADUE * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/645559621.html John Robbins wrote: Could you maybe send the actual craigslist link? This site said to disable some stuff on my browser... Kaleb C. Striplin, Okiebenz wrote: http://www.crazedlist.org/index.cgi?areas=127,200,207,231,320,100,293,322,323,13,210,287,288,315,326,328,307,344,345,346,347,349,98,11,190,223,224,225,339,340,280,350,351,99,221,222,29,30,367,218,369,371,50,385,386,54,70,132,15,21,23,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,308,396,397,398,399,400,401,53,165,47catAbbreviation=sssquery=mercedesminAsk=minmaxAsk=maxthiscat=8submit=Search ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OkieQ?
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: We have been thinking about having the OkieQ June 6th. I need a show of hands who would show up for sure and who would most likely show up, and who might show up? If there is enough interest, will have it. If not, then its dead I guess. Let me know ASAP. Friday? I should be able to go regardless. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OkieQ?
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Im sorry, I meant the 7th. Things usually start off on friday though. Fair enough. What time Friday? Evening or day? Its a 9 hour drive and just trying to figure out how much time I'll have to take off work, and so that my brother can put in his schedule to take off (he needs a 3 week lead time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Diesel vs. Gasoline
Curt Raymond wrote: How about we impose larger restrictions on fuel wasters, houses greater than 2000 square feet with families smaller than 6 for instance? Smaller houses waste less fuel. I think its possible for the average 1600sqft house built in the 50's-60's etc to consume more energy than a 2000+ sqft house built to todays insulation and building standards. It would be nice if pickups had to conform to EPA regulations though! John (1284 sqft house built in 1954) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OkieQ?
Greg and I can do the Friday-Sunday thing (9 hour drive) for sure. Just let us know when you have the date set in stone and we'll show up... Gotta do some driving to justify the CDI ;) Just noticed that I can drive to your house on one tank!! hehehehe Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well, when we have them the main event is saturday, but we usually get together at the bbq joint or something like that friday night for people that are in town then. This is all in the planning stages as of yet, based on if there is going to be anybody showing up. Would love for you to show up in your CDI, thats for sure. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Portland CL interesting cars roundup
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Trade the last one for this when you get tired of it http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/640750450.html 2.2L gas engine?!? Wow that is going to be slow... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
Jim Cathey wrote: I could perhaps be talked into a poverty-level exemption, below which there were no taxes, but that would open up the game to endlessly moving that line around (upwards, I'd imagine), and it would place a huge barrier (or an incentive to deception) at the point where you rose above the line. It would have to be set at a level that was truly poverty, such that NOBODY would want to stay on the low side of it. And I think little enough of human nature that it wouldn't stay there long. Best to set a flat rate and be done with it. You change the rate and it affects EVERYBODY, none of that BS about voting a tax change for somebody else. (And that's the truly evil part of our system today.) I think the poverty level today is defined pretty reasonably... its $14k a year for a family of two. The high level approach they use to get to that number is the threshold below which families or individuals are considered to be lacking the resources to meet the basic needs for healthy living; having insufficient income to provide the food, shelter and clothing needed to preserve health. Sounds reasonable to me, and that is certainly something that will change over time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States I think what you were getting at is you are apposed to a relative poverty measure for taxes, and would prefer an absolute poverty measure. On this I would have to agree... otherwise you get into the problem of it bouncing around often and decided by the electorate instead of math/data/statistics. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
Luther wrote: no more IRS should save nearly a billion in salaries each year. :D For all the people who complain about taxes losing other people jobs (increased taxes on the rich - one less condo - condo industry going down - construction workers etc losing jobs) nobody seems too concerned about all the folks at the IRS losing their jobs. Just an observation (not trying to make a point... just noticing) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: McCain proposes break in fuel taxes
Donald Snook wrote: He could sell the strategic petroleum reserves. Clinton did that one year when he wanted to show that he had balanced the budget. He sold the whole reserve put nearly a billion dollars in the federal coffers and then started building up the reserve the next day. One billion dollars isn't all that much... http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2009/summarytables.html John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Gartner predicts the collapse of Windows
Gary Hurst wrote: i personally believe that the only reason for anyone to be involved with a microsoft product is if you are one of the legions who make a living at supporting users of microsoft products. otherwise, it's just plain stupidity. I use thousands of dollars of software at work that is windows only. At home I'm too cheap to pony up the money for a mac machine... I seem to get along well with XP anyway. Turning off the bubbly theme (the default blue one) seems to improve the peppiness of the machine quite a bit. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Patriot Politics
Sunny Letot wrote: I know there are markers in our money that can be 'read' by law enforcement officials at a distance, and we can be stopped and interrogated -- and our cash confiscated -- if we're carrying too much. What? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX CL E300 Diesel $4500
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy cow. Lookie what one of yous could have: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/641187266.html I vote scam ultra cheap price and pictures of snow in Phoenix. Also notice that the exterior color is supposed to be yellow and the interior is supposed to be tan (that one might be passable). John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question for haley and all the anti government nut jobs
LWB250 wrote: non-military security for the government, such as the infamous cammo dudes of Nellis AFB (Area 51). Just a nit-pick, but Nellis AFB is not Area 51... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question for haley and all the anti government nut jobs
LWB250 wrote: FWIW, if you ever have a chance, go see the LV air show at Nellis that's in November every year. If you like to see military hardware up close, this is definitely the place. When I was in elementary school we lived just south of Nellis. I've only been to the LV air show once (think it was 1st or 2nd grade), but I could always watch the air show part from my backyard! :) There were many times at recess where I could sit and watch the Thunderbirds practice! Middle school was up on Sunrise (Frenchman's) mountain, and provided an even better view of the air show if I biked up there to watch. We moved to MS between my 7th and 8th grade years. I'm almost to 11 years in MS now! I never thought I would stick around here after (or even to attend) college. Funny how that works ;) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Has anyone ever thought about setting up a forum?
Chris Thomas wrote: I try to be active on this list, but it is impossible to follow the threads from beginning to end and very difficult to tell who is talking to whom when I come home to 7 emails with 15-20 messages in each. There are many free php forums that you could easily set up on the okie benz website. I could even do it myself. You all seem pretty progressive about your politics and gun ownership so lets move away from this circa 1995 method of internet communcation. You might like Mercedesshop or others out there. I like having access to both. They each have their ups and downs. The big up is that I can check email at work ;) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Has anyone ever thought about setting up a forum?
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Hear, hear! Gnus is a great solution too. I used to use rmail in Emacs for non-web email, not sure why I stopped... maybe I'll go back. I was a big fan of pine until mail attachments and spam became enough of a problem that I've switched to Thunderbird. You can really fly through some emails with a text based mail reader! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
