Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I have had those types on something I used to own, but cant remember what.
They blew often enough that i didn't have to worry about corrosion...
hahaha!

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> Kyle sez:
>
> >Change your fuses seems to be >pretty solid advice.  Is this a frequent
> >problem/occurrence or a once a year >type of event?
>
> They are a bullet shaped fuse, with a copper or lead element that is also
> the contact surface. They tend to corrode and can cause infuriating
> intermittent electrical problems. How often to change...? I dunno. I change
> them out when I get a car. Maybe every 4-5 years? If you live near salt air
> maybe more often
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I did notice the super vintage Java Had to add all sorts of exceptions
to run the main website! hahaha!

Kyle

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> A few clarification. I ran the mbz.org lists for Dickarde when they
> crashed for good in 2005 and moved the list here. The okie website was
> thrown together by me then and has not been updated since. One of these
> days maybe I will tackle that.
>
> Speaking of Marshall, he was also involved in the movie business for a
> short while and was the sound guy or something for a little movie you may
> have heard of that started it all called Night of the Living Dead.
>
> http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0063350/fullcredits/sound_
> department?ref_=m_ttfc_10
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 21, 2016, at 8:15 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > ‎Hi there Kyle, welcome to the club. A little about our group here, in
> case you weren't informed. Someone please correct me if I am errant in the
> facts.
> >
> > This ema‎il group originally started as a MB diesel list, with servers
> based in Canada. That list was incarnated in the late nineteen nineties
> (1997?). In about 2006, the server crashed and was never properly brought
> back online. When the system went down, Kaleb got a list of the membership
> and proceeded to contact everyone and started a new email list, with all of
> the old members. Many folks here, have been here since the beginning.
> >
> > About the members here. You will find this to be amongst the most
> august, well educated, intelligent, and well rounded groups anywhere in the
> physical, or cyber world. We have numerous engineers, several commercial
> and military pilots (ret), a couple of PhD 's, a couple JD's. ‎Some of us
> have no letters after our name, but have been educated by life, and the
> passage of time.
> >
> > We tend to veer off topic occasionally (a LOT), but most members endure
> the off topic excursions without too much complaint. If we stuck to MB
> topics only, the list traffic would be sparse, and would eventually fade
> away. Any question or topic imaginable can be asked here, and answers will
> magically appear in your inbox. Want to know how to fix your dishwasher?
> Ask away. What is the best apple for pies? Yep, someone here knows. The
> subject of politics ‎is endured, but can get out of hand. Fortunately, most
> of us do an adequate job of self policing. Personal attacks, and cursing
> will not be tolerated, and will get you moderated or banned. (Somebody else
> can explain the origins of the email group "Banned".) A couple of folks use
> pseudonyms instead of their given names, I suppose as an attempt to lessen
> their Internet footprint. To each his own.
> >
> > We have had a few members pass away, most notable among them was A.
> Marshall Booth PhD. The man was a genius in several‎ fields, and Mercedes
> Benz diesel automobile systems happened to be one of them. I, for one, feel
> blessed to have known him digitally. He would USE CAPS for emphasis, and
> any electrical malady would usually bring the response from him to CHANGE
> YOUR FUSES. It is an iconic phrase around here...
> >
> > A few of us can be considered Luddites (kermudgians, refusing to accept
> modern amenities)‎. I would say the majority of us put the "C" in "cheap".
> We understand the hard work behind the value of a dollar, and wish to
> extract the most value we can from each one of those hard earned dollars.
> Hence the love of Mercedes Benz automobiles. And that is the reason we are
> here.
> >
> > Welcome to the club.
> >
> > ‎https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtiEkUollnQ=em
> >
> > ‎Rick
> >  ‎A link to Marshall's obit. Can't believe it's been nine years.
> > http://www.post-gazette.com/news/obituaries/2007/11/30/
> Obituary-Dr-August-M-Booth-Jr-Pitt-pharmacology-researcher-
> was-instrumental-in-department-s-growth/stories/200711300171
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Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

That is a pretty long history!  Not really that surprising as the "older"
generations seem to not be part of the throw away generation we are seeing
today.  I was introduced to this group and encouraged to get involved by
Dan and Manfred and in my quest for a seasoned Mercedes W123 wagon, this
group will certainly be of benefit to me!  I appreciate knowing some of the
history behind this effort and I will certainly use the knowledge available
for good and not evil!

Change your fuses seems to be pretty solid advice.  Is this a frequent
problem/occurrence or a once a year type of event?

Thanks!  Kyle

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> ‎Hi there Kyle, welcome to the club. A little about our group here, in
> case you weren't informed. Someone please correct me if I am errant in the
> facts.
>
> This ema‎il group originally started as a MB diesel list, with servers
> based in Canada. That list was incarnated in the late nineteen nineties
> (1997?). In about 2006, the server crashed and was never properly brought
> back online. When the system went down, Kaleb got a list of the membership
> and proceeded to contact everyone and started a new email list, with all of
> the old members. Many folks here, have been here since the beginning.
>
> About the members here. You will find this to be amongst the most august,
> well educated, intelligent, and well rounded groups anywhere in the
> physical, or cyber world. We have numerous engineers, several commercial
> and military pilots (ret), a couple of PhD 's, a couple JD's. ‎Some of us
> have no letters after our name, but have been educated by life, and the
> passage of time.
>
> We tend to veer off topic occasionally (a LOT), but most members endure
> the off topic excursions without too much complaint. If we stuck to MB
> topics only, the list traffic would be sparse, and would eventually fade
> away. Any question or topic imaginable can be asked here, and answers will
> magically appear in your inbox. Want to know how to fix your dishwasher?
> Ask away. What is the best apple for pies? Yep, someone here knows. The
> subject of politics ‎is endured, but can get out of hand. Fortunately, most
> of us do an adequate job of self policing. Personal attacks, and cursing
> will not be tolerated, and will get you moderated or banned. (Somebody else
> can explain the origins of the email group "Banned".) A couple of folks use
> pseudonyms instead of their given names, I suppose as an attempt to lessen
> their Internet footprint. To each his own.
>
> We have had a few members pass away, most notable among them was A.
> Marshall Booth PhD. The man was a genius in several‎ fields, and Mercedes
> Benz diesel automobile systems happened to be one of them. I, for one, feel
> blessed to have known him digitally. He would USE CAPS for emphasis, and
> any electrical malady would usually bring the response from him to CHANGE
> YOUR FUSES. It is an iconic phrase around here...
>
> A few of us can be considered Luddites (kermudgians, refusing to accept
> modern amenities)‎. I would say the majority of us put the "C" in "cheap".
> We understand the hard work behind the value of a dollar, and wish to
> extract the most value we can from each one of those hard earned dollars.
> Hence the love of Mercedes Benz automobiles. And that is the reason we are
> here.
>
> Welcome to the club.
>
> ‎https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtiEkUollnQ=em
>
> ‎Rick
>  ‎A link to Marshall's obit. Can't believe it's been nine years.
> http://www.post-gazette.com/news/obituaries/2007/11/30/
> Obituary-Dr-August-M-Booth-Jr-Pitt-pharmacology-researcher-
> was-instrumental-in-department-s-growth/stories/200711300171
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Andrew! Was: Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Clay,

That is so true!  Looking for the past month and before joining this list
and 2 other MB forums I feel that I have a good idea of what these cars are
going for.  That being said, one of the reasons for joining this merry band
of travelers is to get some help with finding this car, making friends in
this community, and trying to not get screwed by a seller.  hahaha!  Saving
us a trip up north would be pretty amazing!  Appreciate that for sure!
I will have to make a note on my growing list of "what to look at" about
the seals and such.
Thanks!
Kyle

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 11:47 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Welcome Kyle.
>
> If you want a car you do not need to screw with for a decade, you may need
> to up the buy in.   The W123 is rather bullet proof, but the 85 TD is over
> 30 years old.  Were I in the market with the parameters you lay out, I
> think I would want a very recently refreshed example with all new rubber
> bits, seals, hoses, injectors, exhaust, and no rust.  Black or white, since
> that can be one step paint that will buff out and not mess with clear
> coating.
>
> I will keep an eye out in the great north wet.  Might drive it down if you
> like it, saving you a trip up
>
> clay
>
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
>
> retired models-
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 20, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Garage queens don't last on the farm.. The dogs like to pee on the tires!
> > hahaha! I just cant get them to quit.
> >
> > What you are saying makes perfect sense, and which is why I would prefer
> to
> > get a car from someone who knows what it is and has done the work on it
> to
> > keep it running reliably and take the advice of people who know these
> > cars.
> >
> > Since this is hopefully the last car I buy for 10+ years, I just have to
> > remember these lessons in the future!
> >
> > Kyle
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The way I have always approached this has been to explain that I am
> >> looking for the best reasonably priced example of the car that doesn’t
> need
> >> repairs.  No basket cases, project cars, etc., something I can get into,
> >> turn the key and go with minimal concerns.  In my case I want the best
> >> cosmetics as I don’t do body work nor do I want to pay for it.  Minor
> >> mechanical or electrical issues can be present as long as it’s clear
> they
> >> are something that I can resolve without major effort.
> >>
> >> Believe me, you always want to go for the best possible example of the
> car
> >> you can get for your money.  Fixer-uppers are not what you should buy if
> >> you’re looking for a daily driver right out of the gate, and I know this
> >> isn’t the case for you.
> >>
> >> For example, I really wanted a long wheelbase W126 diesel.  I paid
> between
> >> $4k-$5k for the 1990 350SDL I now have.  It’s not perfect, nor was it
> when
> >> I bought it.  However, I got a really good, solid car with a history I
> was
> >> comfortable with and few, if any, issues, all of which were very minor
> and
> >> easily resolved by me.  I didn’t want a garage queen, parade car or
> >> concours entry.  It’s far from perfect but the average non-MB owner
> would
> >> look at it and say it’s a really nice car.  As an MB owner I’m far more
> >> discerning and I know what to look for, but I didn’t pay for perfection.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Dec 20, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> That is certainly true, I was hoping to avoid the whole "buy my basket
> >>> case" event, but perhaps a quick edit to my post might eliminate this
> >>> problem... I will try that.
> >>>
> >>> Kyle
> >>>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] k: Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Karl,

I would like to see as many examples as possible so I understand better
what I am getting when we do finally purchase a car.  Cali is a haul, no
doubt, and I am unsure of shipping costs from there to Florida.  We would
do that for the "right" car for our family.

Kyle

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 11:44 PM, Karl Wittnebel <atypical...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> If Andrew doesn't pan out you can buy mine. I should have the window leak
> fixed by then. California though.
>
> On Dec 20, 2016 3:38 PM, "Kyle Arola via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Giles! So far so awesome here!
>> Kyle
>>
>> On Dec 20, 2016 6:36 PM, "Dwight Giles via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Welcome Kyle
>> > I don't know of any 123 TD'S here in New,England  bit will be,alert.
>> When
>> > you get one you can drive it up to the New England ChowdahQ  in
>> September.
>> >
>> > Dwight Giles Jr.
>> > 1982 300CD
>> > 2005 E320 4 matic
>> > Wickford RI
>> >
>> > On Dec 20, 2016 11:44 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > There ya go Andrew!  Drive your spare 123.193 down to the Q, ride da dog
>> > home!
>> >
>> >
>> > Welcome Kyle!
>> >
>> > Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> > > December 20, 2016 at 9:19 AM
>> > > Thanks Dan!
>> > >
>> > > Had a problem with the vintage Java version and my Win10 machine, had
>> to
>> > > add some security exceptions and such. The direct sign up link from
>> > Manfred
>> > > worked like a charm to register!
>> > >
>> > > Looking forward the the meet in January and it is on the same day we
>> sell
>> > > back our VW! WH!
>> > >
>> > > We are really searching for a 300TD Wagon now, the 81-85 version, and
>> > will
>> > > consider cars that are not projects and are solid, correct, and fully
>> > > functional. I know, not too demanding. hahaha!
>> > >
>> > > If anyone is considering selling their wagon, we will love and care
>> for
>> > > your baby properly!
>> > >
>> > > Kyle
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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>> > > Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> > > December 20, 2016 at 9:06 AM
>> > > Kyle Arola has just subscribed to the Okie List.
>> > >
>> > > Kyle lives up in north central Florida near Manfred. I saw his post on
>> > > Benzworld last week looking for a nice 300TD to replace his soon to be
>> > > returned VW diesel and reached out to him about our list and Manfred’s
>> > > proximity, which really worked out well.
>> > >
>> > > Kyle has already paid Manfred a visit so he could test drive a diesel
>> > > wagon, and he’s planning on attending the Manfred “Q” in January.
>> > >
>> > > Welcome, Kyle!
>> > >
>> > > Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Andrew! Was: Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Awesome!!

I am still sad I sold my 52 Ford tractor and pickup... They were quite fine
motoring around...

Myle

On Dec 20, 2016 7:46 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Nice!  My favorite was a JD 5500N  Narrow, with MFW and a cab.  (Yanmar,
> but was labelled USA)  75 HP in a package not much different from your
> Ford.  It was fantastic pulling PTO air sprayer up and down hills.  1993 I
> think
> Curt has a farmall super M.  I have a Farmall H (1948).  All the rest are
> gone.  I run the H on the tractor ride.  http://whoradio.iheart.com/ona
> ir/tractor-ride-blog-26573/2016-tractor-ride-photos-14872170/The
> oliver guys in black group are my homies.  About 400-500 tractors each year.
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> December 20, 2016 at 6:16 PM
>> 1987 Ford 2110 with the Ford FEL. 36 horse diesel engine built in Shibaura
>> Japan. Sweet ride and 4 wheel,drive. Was my Grandfathers and only 1900
>> hours..
>>
>> On Dec 20, 2016 7:10 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, what kind/model (s)?
>>
>> Kleb has never seen the Big Show tractor ride! Or the WMT tractor ride.
>>
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[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

It is all about the body style Cool trumps refined any day... And 123's
are cool...

On Dec 20, 2016 7:30 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Why have a tractor like 123 when you can have a refined 124.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 20, 2016, at 5:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Coupes, apparently.  I was surprised that coupe didn’t do better.
> >
> > I will say that diesel coupes seem to have a “red headed stepchild” sort
> of thing going.  It’s sort of like combining two unlike things - a coupe
> and diesel.
> >
> > I loved my W123 coupe, and despite the opposite, it would get up and
> go.  Maybe not as quickly as the equivalent vergasser, but it was fast for
> a diesel.
> >
> > And of course it had the rare Zündfolge engine, too.  That makes all the
> difference.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 20, 2016, at 6:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> The 123 are like tractors, nobody wants them.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] k: Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

That is what email filing rules are for!

Hahahaha!

On Dec 20, 2016 7:13 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> You'll get fed up with us soon enough!
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> December 20, 2016 at 5:38 PM
>> Thanks Giles! So far so awesome here!
>> Kyle
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Andrew! Was: Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

1987 Ford 2110 with the Ford FEL. 36 horse diesel engine built in Shibaura
Japan. Sweet ride and 4 wheel,drive. Was my Grandfathers and only 1900
hours..

On Dec 20, 2016 7:10 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

Yeah, what kind/model (s)?

Kleb has never seen the Big Show tractor ride!  Or the WMT tractor ride.

Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> December 20, 2016 at 5:28 PM
>
> Funny, I also have a tractor... hahaha!
>
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[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Thanks Giles! So far so awesome here!
Kyle

On Dec 20, 2016 6:36 PM, "Dwight Giles via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Welcome Kyle
> I don't know of any 123 TD'S here in New,England  bit will be,alert. When
> you get one you can drive it up to the New England ChowdahQ  in September.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 2005 E320 4 matic
> Wickford RI
>
> On Dec 20, 2016 11:44 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> There ya go Andrew!  Drive your spare 123.193 down to the Q, ride da dog
> home!
>
>
> Welcome Kyle!
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > December 20, 2016 at 9:19 AM
> > Thanks Dan!
> >
> > Had a problem with the vintage Java version and my Win10 machine, had to
> > add some security exceptions and such. The direct sign up link from
> Manfred
> > worked like a charm to register!
> >
> > Looking forward the the meet in January and it is on the same day we sell
> > back our VW! WH!
> >
> > We are really searching for a 300TD Wagon now, the 81-85 version, and
> will
> > consider cars that are not projects and are solid, correct, and fully
> > functional. I know, not too demanding. hahaha!
> >
> > If anyone is considering selling their wagon, we will love and care for
> > your baby properly!
> >
> > Kyle
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> > December 20, 2016 at 9:06 AM
> > Kyle Arola has just subscribed to the Okie List.
> >
> > Kyle lives up in north central Florida near Manfred. I saw his post on
> > Benzworld last week looking for a nice 300TD to replace his soon to be
> > returned VW diesel and reached out to him about our list and Manfred’s
> > proximity, which really worked out well.
> >
> > Kyle has already paid Manfred a visit so he could test drive a diesel
> > wagon, and he’s planning on attending the Manfred “Q” in January.
> >
> > Welcome, Kyle!
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Andrew! Was: Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Funny, I also have a tractor... hahaha!



On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The 123 are like tractors, nobody wants them.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 20, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > He might have gotten hosed on a rebuilt trans for a B2 piston or
> something.
> > If he's got dealer records from day 1, he should be able to prove the
> odometer.
> > Then it's up to the market to decide what a clean well maintained low
> mileage
> > car is worth, but for 123 sedans I've been seeing 90kmi cars for a lot
> less than
> > $16k. Wagons and coupes are of course a different story.
> >
> > There was a coupe recently that we had a 'guess the auction price'
> contest on
> > last week. I was the lowest guess at $9xxx and it sold for $7200.
> >
> > Mitch.
> >
> >> On December 20, 2016 at 2:49 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> $16k for that car is crackhead money, in my opinion.  I would also be
> suspect
> >> of an 83 with only 137k on the clock having a rebuilt transmission.
> That’s
> >> way, way below the norm. I could see maybe $10k or $12k, but $16k is
> pretty
> >> outrageous in my opinion.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Dec 20, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> hahaha! I was hopeful that I had not disappointed Curley to that point
> >>> quite yet...
> >>>
> >>> So is it worth flying to California to buy a "perfect" 123 wagon for
> 16K?
> >>> Opinions please.  I do know there is no such thing as a perfect
> car,
> >>> but, you can get it pretty close.  It is a guy on peachparts and he is
> >>> going to be sending me pictures.  bwhitmore is the user name.  He
> doesnt
> >>> have a gallery so I couldnt see the car.  Here is what he sent me.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *Kyle - I have a 1983 300TD wagon that fits your description however I
> am
> >>> in Southern California and my price is $16K. The car is white with
> Palomino
> >>> interior with 137, 545 miles. Everything (AC, cruise, SLS, engine
> trans,
> >>> door locks, etc.) works perfectly. I am the second owner of the car
> which
> >>> was sold new by Stahl Motors Mercedes in Monterey, Ca (now called
> Mercedes
> >>> of Monterey). I have all service records since new plus all of the
> original
> >>> manuals for the car. The car is 95% original paint with no rust ever.
> The
> >>> hood and the small panels below the headlights were painted due to
> stone
> >>> chips. The interior is immaculate with a no crack dash and perfect
> Zebrano
> >>> wood. The carpets and seats (MBTex) are like new including the cargo
> area
> >>> carpet. Work on the car within the last year includes: New AC
> >>> compressor/receiver drier/expansion valve Rebuilt transmission New,
> genuine
> >>> MBZ vacuum pump New genuine MBZ timing chain and guides/tensioner New
> >>> genuine MBZ SLS accumulators New tires I am a W123 enthusiast and also
> own
> >>> a W123 coupe and sedan. The work mentioned above (with the exception
> of the
> >>> AC work and transmission) was done as part of my routine maintenance
> >>> schedule. The car has received regular 3,000 mile oil changes along
> with
> >>> fuel filters every 6,000 miles and valve adjustment every 8,000 miles.
> If
> >>> interested, I am glad to send pictures. Thanks. Bill Whitmore*
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Ja, Shore!
> >>>>
> >>>> Uff Da
> >>>>
> >>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >>>>> December 20, 2016 at 1:30 PM
> >>>>> Methinks Curly was referring to Andrew, not you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dan
> >>>>>
> >

Re: [MBZ] more 300TDs

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Andrew, email sent!

Kyle

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> An don't forget list member Strasfogel whose 1985 300td is being readied to
> list on Bring a Trailer.   Diamond blue with a blue interior, immaculate,
> and rust free with lots of great photos to share.  Contact me privately if
> Interested.  Not cheap, but not expensive either considering all the work
> and $$s done in restoring the car.  Currently garaged in Cabin John, MD.
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > There are members in Chucktown, I believe.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > > On Dec 20, 2016, at 1:43 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > This one has been listed for almost 30 days and just chatted with him
> and
> > > he is going to take close up pictures of lots of stuff for me tonight.
> > > Anyone in South Carolina near Charleston that can check it out?
> > >
> > > http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5888491675.html
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Andrew! Was: Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

This is so helpful!  I really do NOT want to get taken to the cleaners on a
car, and that is why my first inclination was to meet people in the "club"
and attempt to get a wagon from someone known, or at least suspected, of
loving their car!

Kyle

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 6:16 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> He might have gotten hosed on a rebuilt trans for a B2 piston or something.
> If he's got dealer records from day 1, he should be able to prove the
> odometer.
> Then it's up to the market to decide what a clean well maintained low
> mileage
> car is worth, but for 123 sedans I've been seeing 90kmi cars for a lot
> less than
> $16k. Wagons and coupes are of course a different story.
>
> There was a coupe recently that we had a 'guess the auction price' contest
> on
> last week. I was the lowest guess at $9xxx and it sold for $7200.
>
> Mitch.
>
> > On December 20, 2016 at 2:49 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > $16k for that car is crackhead money, in my opinion.  I would also be
> suspect
> > of an 83 with only 137k on the clock having a rebuilt transmission.
> That’s
> > way, way below the norm. I could see maybe $10k or $12k, but $16k is
> pretty
> > outrageous in my opinion.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Dec 20, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > hahaha! I was hopeful that I had not disappointed Curley to that point
> > > quite yet...
> > >
> > > So is it worth flying to California to buy a "perfect" 123 wagon for
> 16K?
> > > Opinions please.  I do know there is no such thing as a perfect
> car,
> > > but, you can get it pretty close.  It is a guy on peachparts and he is
> > > going to be sending me pictures.  bwhitmore is the user name.  He
> doesnt
> > > have a gallery so I couldnt see the car.  Here is what he sent me.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *Kyle - I have a 1983 300TD wagon that fits your description however I
> am
> > > in Southern California and my price is $16K. The car is white with
> Palomino
> > > interior with 137, 545 miles. Everything (AC, cruise, SLS, engine
> trans,
> > > door locks, etc.) works perfectly. I am the second owner of the car
> which
> > > was sold new by Stahl Motors Mercedes in Monterey, Ca (now called
> Mercedes
> > > of Monterey). I have all service records since new plus all of the
> original
> > > manuals for the car. The car is 95% original paint with no rust ever.
> The
> > > hood and the small panels below the headlights were painted due to
> stone
> > > chips. The interior is immaculate with a no crack dash and perfect
> Zebrano
> > > wood. The carpets and seats (MBTex) are like new including the cargo
> area
> > > carpet. Work on the car within the last year includes: New AC
> > > compressor/receiver drier/expansion valve Rebuilt transmission New,
> genuine
> > > MBZ vacuum pump New genuine MBZ timing chain and guides/tensioner New
> > > genuine MBZ SLS accumulators New tires I am a W123 enthusiast and also
> own
> > > a W123 coupe and sedan. The work mentioned above (with the exception
> of the
> > > AC work and transmission) was done as part of my routine maintenance
> > > schedule. The car has received regular 3,000 mile oil changes along
> with
> > > fuel filters every 6,000 miles and valve adjustment every 8,000 miles.
> If
> > > interested, I am glad to send pictures. Thanks. Bill Whitmore*
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ja, Shore!
> > >>
> > >> Uff Da
> > >>
> > >> Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > >>> December 20, 2016 at 1:30 PM
> > >>> Methinks Curly was referring to Andrew, not you.
> > >>>
> > >>> Dan
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Andrew! Was: Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Truth! I figured 10 was a good start. Hahaha

Kyle

On Dec 20, 2016 5:03 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> Aim higher!  I have had my 200D (110) for 44 years, and the 240D (123)
> over 20 years.  Between my son and I we have had the 200D 2.4 for 25 years
> as of Dec 7, 2016.
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> December 20, 2016 at 2:38 PM
>> Garage queens don't last on the farm.. The dogs like to pee on the tires!
>> hahaha! I just cant get them to quit.
>>
>> What you are saying makes perfect sense, and which is why I would prefer
>> to
>> get a car from someone who knows what it is and has done the work on it to
>> keep it running reliably and take the advice of people who know these
>> cars.
>>
>> Since this is hopefully the last car I buy for 10+ years, I just have to
>> remember these lessons in the future!
>>
>> Kyle
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Andrew! Was: Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Garage queens don't last on the farm.. The dogs like to pee on the tires!
hahaha! I just cant get them to quit.

What you are saying makes perfect sense, and which is why I would prefer to
get a car from someone who knows what it is and has done the work on it to
keep it running reliably and take the advice of people who know these
cars.

Since this is hopefully the last car I buy for 10+ years, I just have to
remember these lessons in the future!

Kyle

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The way I have always approached this has been to explain that I am
> looking for the best reasonably priced example of the car that doesn’t need
> repairs.  No basket cases, project cars, etc., something I can get into,
> turn the key and go with minimal concerns.  In my case I want the best
> cosmetics as I don’t do body work nor do I want to pay for it.  Minor
> mechanical or electrical issues can be present as long as it’s clear they
> are something that I can resolve without major effort.
>
> Believe me, you always want to go for the best possible example of the car
> you can get for your money.  Fixer-uppers are not what you should buy if
> you’re looking for a daily driver right out of the gate, and I know this
> isn’t the case for you.
>
> For example, I really wanted a long wheelbase W126 diesel.  I paid between
> $4k-$5k for the 1990 350SDL I now have.  It’s not perfect, nor was it when
> I bought it.  However, I got a really good, solid car with a history I was
> comfortable with and few, if any, issues, all of which were very minor and
> easily resolved by me.  I didn’t want a garage queen, parade car or
> concours entry.  It’s far from perfect but the average non-MB owner would
> look at it and say it’s a really nice car.  As an MB owner I’m far more
> discerning and I know what to look for, but I didn’t pay for perfection.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> > On Dec 20, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > That is certainly true, I was hoping to avoid the whole "buy my basket
> > case" event, but perhaps a quick edit to my post might eliminate this
> > problem... I will try that.
> >
> > Kyle
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Andrew! Was: Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Edited on peachparts, but cant on benzworld.  Oh well, live and learn.
hahaha!

No harm no foul, as I will have to stay tough in negotiations!  I can
always use the " that includes the travel and fuel driving back expenses"
argument.  They don't need to know we have budgeted for that...

Kyle

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Kyle Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That is certainly true, I was hoping to avoid the whole "buy my basket
> case" event, but perhaps a quick edit to my post might eliminate this
> problem... I will try that.
>
> Kyle
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Everything is negotiable.  If not, the seller has unrealistic
>> expectations that you’re not going to overcome.  In that case, thank them
>> and move on.
>>
>> The problem is that you have put a number out already, so people know
>> what your top end is.  Had you not done so you could have easily responded
>> to the offer by telling them that the car sounds really nice but it’s out
>> of your budget range.  That forces them to respond with a counter if
>> they’re motivated to sell or don’t have unrealistic expectations.
>>
>> Sorry.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 20, 2016, at 3:06 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I do recognize that that can certainly happen, and I am willing to
>> accept
>> > it if it happens to me!  My problems are California is a really long way
>> > away and if they will take 10k after starting at 16k, they knew the car
>> was
>> > only worth 10k and tried to screw a new (caveat emptor) enthusiast
>> over...
>> > I don't like that part of the deal.
>> >
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Andrew! Was: Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

That is certainly true, I was hoping to avoid the whole "buy my basket
case" event, but perhaps a quick edit to my post might eliminate this
problem... I will try that.

Kyle

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Everything is negotiable.  If not, the seller has unrealistic expectations
> that you’re not going to overcome.  In that case, thank them and move on.
>
> The problem is that you have put a number out already, so people know what
> your top end is.  Had you not done so you could have easily responded to
> the offer by telling them that the car sounds really nice but it’s out of
> your budget range.  That forces them to respond with a counter if they’re
> motivated to sell or don’t have unrealistic expectations.
>
> Sorry.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Dec 20, 2016, at 3:06 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I do recognize that that can certainly happen, and I am willing to accept
> > it if it happens to me!  My problems are California is a really long way
> > away and if they will take 10k after starting at 16k, they knew the car
> was
> > only worth 10k and tried to screw a new (caveat emptor) enthusiast
> over...
> > I don't like that part of the deal.
> >
>
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[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I do recognize that that can certainly happen, and I am willing to accept
it if it happens to me!  My problems are California is a really long way
away and if they will take 10k after starting at 16k, they knew the car was
only worth 10k and tried to screw a new (caveat emptor) enthusiast over...
I don't like that part of the deal.

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Don’t dismiss the random user, as sometimes they can be “the one”.  My
> 1990 350SDL came from a random user on Benzworld that I didn’t know but had
> enough cred there that I was satisfied after talking to him a number of
> times that the car was represented truthfully, and it was.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Dec 20, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > That was my general thought also.  I would spend that if it was someone
> > that everyone vouched for... but some random user that wants to sell me
> > some pretty nice car, not likely.. and i don't support crack!
> >
>
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[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

That was my general thought also.  I would spend that if it was someone
that everyone vouched for... but some random user that wants to sell me
some pretty nice car, not likely.. and i don't support crack!

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> $16k for that car is crackhead money, in my opinion.  I would also be
> suspect of an 83 with only 137k on the clock having a rebuilt
> transmission.  That’s way, way below the norm. I could see maybe $10k or
> $12k, but $16k is pretty outrageous in my opinion.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 20, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > hahaha! I was hopeful that I had not disappointed Curley to that point
> > quite yet...
> >
> > So is it worth flying to California to buy a "perfect" 123 wagon for 16K?
> > Opinions please.  I do know there is no such thing as a perfect car,
> > but, you can get it pretty close.  It is a guy on peachparts and he is
> > going to be sending me pictures.  bwhitmore is the user name.  He doesnt
> > have a gallery so I couldnt see the car.  Here is what he sent me.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Kyle - I have a 1983 300TD wagon that fits your description however I am
> > in Southern California and my price is $16K. The car is white with
> Palomino
> > interior with 137, 545 miles. Everything (AC, cruise, SLS, engine trans,
> > door locks, etc.) works perfectly. I am the second owner of the car which
> > was sold new by Stahl Motors Mercedes in Monterey, Ca (now called
> Mercedes
> > of Monterey). I have all service records since new plus all of the
> original
> > manuals for the car. The car is 95% original paint with no rust ever. The
> > hood and the small panels below the headlights were painted due to stone
> > chips. The interior is immaculate with a no crack dash and perfect
> Zebrano
> > wood. The carpets and seats (MBTex) are like new including the cargo area
> > carpet. Work on the car within the last year includes: New AC
> > compressor/receiver drier/expansion valve Rebuilt transmission New,
> genuine
> > MBZ vacuum pump New genuine MBZ timing chain and guides/tensioner New
> > genuine MBZ SLS accumulators New tires I am a W123 enthusiast and also
> own
> > a W123 coupe and sedan. The work mentioned above (with the exception of
> the
> > AC work and transmission) was done as part of my routine maintenance
> > schedule. The car has received regular 3,000 mile oil changes along with
> > fuel filters every 6,000 miles and valve adjustment every 8,000 miles. If
> > interested, I am glad to send pictures. Thanks. Bill Whitmore*
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Ja, Shore!
> >>
> >> Uff Da
> >>
> >> Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >>> December 20, 2016 at 1:30 PM
> >>> Methinks Curly was referring to Andrew, not you.
> >>>
> >>> Dan
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Oh... You are talking about Andrew... not the craigslist ad in Charleston
South Carolina.  These threads are somewhat hard for me to follow along
with!  Learning curve most likely.



On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Kyle Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Manfred!  He told me today that he would go take many close up
> pictures and send them along.  He is most likely giddy to have 2 hits in 2
> days for a car posted for almost a month!
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 2:39 PM, MG via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I already emailed him yesterday and was told that he would "try and get
>> you some pictures in a few days."
>>
>> Manfred
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:43:24 -0600
>>> From: Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca>
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe Andrew has 2 of them and wants to sell one.
>>> That is a good place to start.
>>> Where are you Andrew? Pay attention!
>>>
>>> RB
>>>
>>> On 20/12/2016 9:19 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Dan!
>>>>
>>>> Had a problem with the vintage Java version and my Win10 machine, had to
>>>> add some security exceptions and such. The direct sign up link from
>>>> Manfred
>>>> worked like a charm to register!
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward the the meet in January and it is on the same day we
>>>> sell
>>>> back our VW!  WH!
>>>>
>>>> We are really searching for a 300TD Wagon now, the 81-85 version, and
>>>> will
>>>> consider cars that are not projects and are solid, correct, and fully
>>>> functional.  I know, not too demanding. hahaha!
>>>>
>>>> If anyone is considering selling their wagon, we will love and care for
>>>> your baby properly!
>>>>
>>>> Kyle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:43:57 -0600
>>> From: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> Subject: [MBZ] Oh Andrew!  Was: Welcome New Member
>>> Message-ID: <58595fcd.8060...@gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>>
>>> There ya go Andrew!  Drive your spare 123.193 down to the Q, ride da dog
>>> home!
>>>
>>>
>>> Welcome Kyle!
>>>
>>> Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> December 20, 2016 at 9:19 AM
>>>> Thanks Dan!
>>>>
>>>> Had a problem with the vintage Java version and my Win10 machine, had to
>>>> add some security exceptions and such. The direct sign up link from
>>>> Manfred
>>>> worked like a charm to register!
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward the the meet in January and it is on the same day we
>>>> sell
>>>> back our VW! WH!
>>>>
>>>> We are really searching for a 300TD Wagon now, the 81-85 version, and
>>>> will
>>>> consider cars that are not projects and are solid, correct, and fully
>>>> functional. I know, not too demanding. hahaha!
>>>>
>>>> If anyone is considering selling their wagon, we will love and care for
>>>> your baby properly!
>>>>
>>>> Kyle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>>> ___
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>>>> December 20, 2016 at 9:06 AM
>>>> Kyle Arola has just subscribed to the Okie List.
>>>>
>>>> Kyle lives up in north central Florida near Manfred. I saw his post on
>>>> Benzworld last week looking for a nice 300TD to replace his soon to be
>>>> returned VW diesel and reached out to him about our list and Manfred?s
>>>> proximity, which really w

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Thanks Manfred!  He told me today that he would go take many close up
pictures and send them along.  He is most likely giddy to have 2 hits in 2
days for a car posted for almost a month!



On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 2:39 PM, MG via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> I already emailed him yesterday and was told that he would "try and get
> you some pictures in a few days."
>
> Manfred
>
>
>
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:43:24 -0600
>> From: Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca>
>>
>>
>> I believe Andrew has 2 of them and wants to sell one.
>> That is a good place to start.
>> Where are you Andrew? Pay attention!
>>
>> RB
>>
>> On 20/12/2016 9:19 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Dan!
>>>
>>> Had a problem with the vintage Java version and my Win10 machine, had to
>>> add some security exceptions and such. The direct sign up link from
>>> Manfred
>>> worked like a charm to register!
>>>
>>> Looking forward the the meet in January and it is on the same day we sell
>>> back our VW!  WH!
>>>
>>> We are really searching for a 300TD Wagon now, the 81-85 version, and
>>> will
>>> consider cars that are not projects and are solid, correct, and fully
>>> functional.  I know, not too demanding. hahaha!
>>>
>>> If anyone is considering selling their wagon, we will love and care for
>>> your baby properly!
>>>
>>> Kyle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:43:57 -0600
>> From: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Subject: [MBZ] Oh Andrew!  Was: Welcome New Member
>> Message-ID: <58595fcd.8060...@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>
>> There ya go Andrew!  Drive your spare 123.193 down to the Q, ride da dog
>> home!
>>
>>
>> Welcome Kyle!
>>
>> Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> December 20, 2016 at 9:19 AM
>>> Thanks Dan!
>>>
>>> Had a problem with the vintage Java version and my Win10 machine, had to
>>> add some security exceptions and such. The direct sign up link from
>>> Manfred
>>> worked like a charm to register!
>>>
>>> Looking forward the the meet in January and it is on the same day we sell
>>> back our VW! WH!
>>>
>>> We are really searching for a 300TD Wagon now, the 81-85 version, and
>>> will
>>> consider cars that are not projects and are solid, correct, and fully
>>> functional. I know, not too demanding. hahaha!
>>>
>>> If anyone is considering selling their wagon, we will love and care for
>>> your baby properly!
>>>
>>> Kyle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> ___
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>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> December 20, 2016 at 9:06 AM
>>> Kyle Arola has just subscribed to the Okie List.
>>>
>>> Kyle lives up in north central Florida near Manfred. I saw his post on
>>> Benzworld last week looking for a nice 300TD to replace his soon to be
>>> returned VW diesel and reached out to him about our list and Manfred?s
>>> proximity, which really worked out well.
>>>
>>> Kyle has already paid Manfred a visit so he could test drive a diesel
>>> wagon, and he?s planning on attending the Manfred ?Q? in January.
>>>
>>> Welcome, Kyle!
>>>
>>> Dan
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:46:58 -0600
>> From: Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca>
>>

Re: [MBZ] Oh Andrew! Was: Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

hahaha! I was hopeful that I had not disappointed Curley to that point
quite yet...

So is it worth flying to California to buy a "perfect" 123 wagon for 16K?
Opinions please.  I do know there is no such thing as a perfect car,
but, you can get it pretty close.  It is a guy on peachparts and he is
going to be sending me pictures.  bwhitmore is the user name.  He doesnt
have a gallery so I couldnt see the car.  Here is what he sent me.
















*Kyle - I have a 1983 300TD wagon that fits your description however I am
in Southern California and my price is $16K. The car is white with Palomino
interior with 137, 545 miles. Everything (AC, cruise, SLS, engine trans,
door locks, etc.) works perfectly. I am the second owner of the car which
was sold new by Stahl Motors Mercedes in Monterey, Ca (now called Mercedes
of Monterey). I have all service records since new plus all of the original
manuals for the car. The car is 95% original paint with no rust ever. The
hood and the small panels below the headlights were painted due to stone
chips. The interior is immaculate with a no crack dash and perfect Zebrano
wood. The carpets and seats (MBTex) are like new including the cargo area
carpet. Work on the car within the last year includes: New AC
compressor/receiver drier/expansion valve Rebuilt transmission New, genuine
MBZ vacuum pump New genuine MBZ timing chain and guides/tensioner New
genuine MBZ SLS accumulators New tires I am a W123 enthusiast and also own
a W123 coupe and sedan. The work mentioned above (with the exception of the
AC work and transmission) was done as part of my routine maintenance
schedule. The car has received regular 3,000 mile oil changes along with
fuel filters every 6,000 miles and valve adjustment every 8,000 miles. If
interested, I am glad to send pictures. Thanks. Bill Whitmore*

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Ja, Shore!
>
> Uff Da
>
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> December 20, 2016 at 1:30 PM
>> Methinks Curly was referring to Andrew, not you.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Andrew! Was: Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=big%20hat%2C%20no%20cattle

Someone who presents themselves as a person of great importance, but who's
actual credentials are spurious or questionable.

Not sure who that is here, hopefully not me!  hahaha!  I know I have no
Mercedes cred

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 1:44 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com
> wrote:

> What does that mean?BB
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>  Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2016-12-20  12:40 PM  (GMT-06:00) To:
> Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Curley McLain <
> 126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oh Andrew! Was: Welcome New Member
> Big hat  No cattle
>
> > Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > December 20, 2016 at 12:29 PM
> > If Andrew is interested in selling a car, and he is 12 hours or less
> away,
> > I would be happy to drive my truck and trailer to him For the right
> > car, I would certainly take time off work and travel or fly out and drive
> > back!
> >
> > Kyle
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Windows?

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Yep sad to see that end for sure!  Well, you may as well wait until you get
a new machine and it will come with the Win10.  I dont feel that there is
much sense buying something for an older computer that has a greater chance
of a hardware failure.

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well I guess I should have taken them up on the free upgrade offer.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 20, 2016, at 12:25 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Totally correct, always set the advanced update settings to "notify to
> > schedule restart" and that disables the autoreboot that you experienced.
> >
> > Win10 is faster, lighter, and takes up less space on your hard drive.
> All
> > good reasons to update.  Also, in 2020 Win7 drops out of microsofts
> support.
> >
> > Kyle
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> While the *use* of Windows 10 isn't that different from 7, and as an OS
> is
> >> fairly stable and complete, I have to stress on forcing the thing out of
> >> auto-update mode. I have come home to one system running 10 that was
> doing
> >> a compile, only to find out it had failed because the system had
> rebooted
> >> right in the middle of a job. A POS system with a non-profit I help out
> at
> >> once couldn't do work for an hour and a half as it booted, said it
> needed
> >> updates, then forcibly rebooted without any concern to the business it
> just
> >> took down. Microsoft has gone the wrong direction on this one, and has
> >> forgotten that this system is *my* system. I do not lease it from
> >> Microsoft, I do not have a Desktop as a Service. I have systems I need
> to
> >> run when I have work I need to do.
> >>
> >> Application wise, however, I haven't found anything third-party that
> >> refuses to run outright. To the underlying software it isn't that
> different
> >> from 8, relatively speaking, so if it runs on 8 it should run on 10. My
> >> game system is currently running 10.
> >>
> >> EdB
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I know many of you folks are against anything from MS but, it one has
> to
> >>> use Windows, is it now a good idea to change over to Windows 10 from
> >>> Windows 7?
> >>>
> >>> Any real reason not to do so now?
> >>>
> >>> RB
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] more 300TDs

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

This one has been listed for almost 30 days and just chatted with him and
he is going to take close up pictures of lots of stuff for me tonight.
Anyone in South Carolina near Charleston that can check it out?

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5888491675.html

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Kyle Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> We are planning on getting a prepurchase inspection for sure...  I also
> hope to pick everyones brain about the car we eventually decide on.
>
> Good info on what else to check/not worry so much about.  I am going to
> make a list of all this..
>
> Kyle
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> A prepurchase inspection is a must.  Even if you go through a few hundred
>> dollars to find the right car, it’s money well spent, especially since
>> you’re relatively new to the marque.
>>
>> Fortunately these cars aren’t terribly complex, so the things that will
>> be most important t check are rust and rust.  Door bottoms, bottom edge of
>> the rear hatch, lower corners of rear window, jack points, etc., are all
>> critical places to look for damage, and ones that you will use to rule out
>> a potential addition to your garage.
>>
>> After that I would focus on systems such as the SLS (leveling) as parts
>> of it are expensive to repair/replace.  From there on out the rest are
>> pretty easy to deal with and not deal breakers in most situations.  Central
>> locking is a piece of cake to troubleshoot and repair as are most
>> electrical issues.  ACC (automatic climate control) is also pretty
>> straightforward and will most likely have you replacing leaking vacuum
>> actuators, none of which are terribly expensive, maybe $50.
>>
>> Post your findings here if you talk to or check out a car - there are a
>> lot of current and former W123 owners around with many years of experience.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 20, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I didnt think of that.  I will attempt a phone call in a bit.  If at all
>> > possible I only really want to get one after I have someone that knows
>> > their MB business checks it out with me.
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Andrew! Was: Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

If Andrew is interested in selling a car, and he is 12 hours or less away,
I would be happy to drive my truck and trailer to him  For the right
car, I would certainly take time off work and travel or fly out and drive
back!

Kyle

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There ya go Andrew!  Drive your spare 123.193 down to the Q, ride da dog
> home!
>
>
> Welcome Kyle!
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> December 20, 2016 at 9:19 AM
>> Thanks Dan!
>>
>> Had a problem with the vintage Java version and my Win10 machine, had to
>> add some security exceptions and such. The direct sign up link from
>> Manfred
>> worked like a charm to register!
>>
>> Looking forward the the meet in January and it is on the same day we sell
>> back our VW! WH!
>>
>> We are really searching for a 300TD Wagon now, the 81-85 version, and will
>> consider cars that are not projects and are solid, correct, and fully
>> functional. I know, not too demanding. hahaha!
>>
>> If anyone is considering selling their wagon, we will love and care for
>> your baby properly!
>>
>> Kyle
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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>> December 20, 2016 at 9:06 AM
>> Kyle Arola has just subscribed to the Okie List.
>>
>> Kyle lives up in north central Florida near Manfred. I saw his post on
>> Benzworld last week looking for a nice 300TD to replace his soon to be
>> returned VW diesel and reached out to him about our list and Manfred’s
>> proximity, which really worked out well.
>>
>> Kyle has already paid Manfred a visit so he could test drive a diesel
>> wagon, and he’s planning on attending the Manfred “Q” in January.
>>
>> Welcome, Kyle!
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Windows?

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Totally correct, always set the advanced update settings to "notify to
schedule restart" and that disables the autoreboot that you experienced.

Win10 is faster, lighter, and takes up less space on your hard drive.  All
good reasons to update.  Also, in 2020 Win7 drops out of microsofts support.

Kyle

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> While the *use* of Windows 10 isn't that different from 7, and as an OS is
> fairly stable and complete, I have to stress on forcing the thing out of
> auto-update mode. I have come home to one system running 10 that was doing
> a compile, only to find out it had failed because the system had rebooted
> right in the middle of a job. A POS system with a non-profit I help out at
> once couldn't do work for an hour and a half as it booted, said it needed
> updates, then forcibly rebooted without any concern to the business it just
> took down. Microsoft has gone the wrong direction on this one, and has
> forgotten that this system is *my* system. I do not lease it from
> Microsoft, I do not have a Desktop as a Service. I have systems I need to
> run when I have work I need to do.
>
> Application wise, however, I haven't found anything third-party that
> refuses to run outright. To the underlying software it isn't that different
> from 8, relatively speaking, so if it runs on 8 it should run on 10. My
> game system is currently running 10.
>
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> > Any real reason not to do so now?
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Re: [MBZ] more 300TDs

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

We are planning on getting a prepurchase inspection for sure...  I also
hope to pick everyones brain about the car we eventually decide on.

Good info on what else to check/not worry so much about.  I am going to
make a list of all this..

Kyle

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> A prepurchase inspection is a must.  Even if you go through a few hundred
> dollars to find the right car, it’s money well spent, especially since
> you’re relatively new to the marque.
>
> Fortunately these cars aren’t terribly complex, so the things that will be
> most important t check are rust and rust.  Door bottoms, bottom edge of the
> rear hatch, lower corners of rear window, jack points, etc., are all
> critical places to look for damage, and ones that you will use to rule out
> a potential addition to your garage.
>
> After that I would focus on systems such as the SLS (leveling) as parts of
> it are expensive to repair/replace.  From there on out the rest are pretty
> easy to deal with and not deal breakers in most situations.  Central
> locking is a piece of cake to troubleshoot and repair as are most
> electrical issues.  ACC (automatic climate control) is also pretty
> straightforward and will most likely have you replacing leaking vacuum
> actuators, none of which are terribly expensive, maybe $50.
>
> Post your findings here if you talk to or check out a car - there are a
> lot of current and former W123 owners around with many years of experience.
>
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> > On Dec 20, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
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> >
> > I didnt think of that.  I will attempt a phone call in a bit.  If at all
> > possible I only really want to get one after I have someone that knows
> > their MB business checks it out with me.
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Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I KNEW THAT ONE!  WOOHOO!!!  (well not the engine number part...)

hahahaha!

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> Well, not us market in the 123.  The 300TD 124 IS a 6 cyl OM603
>
> Randy Bennell via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> December 20, 2016 at 11:19 AM
>> You do realize there are no 6 cylinder ones, I hope.
>>
>> RB
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>> The 6 cylinder one is in Ontario... That is one hell of a drive for me!
>>
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>> Hey, if you are quick, you could get the 6 cylinder one advertised on
>> that website. That would be a real coup as is may well be the only one.
>>
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>> I believe Andrew has 2 of them and wants to sell one.
>> That is a good place to start.
>> Where are you Andrew? Pay attention!
>>
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>> Thanks Dan!
>>
>> Had a problem with the vintage Java version and my Win10 machine, had to
>> add some security exceptions and such. The direct sign up link from
>> Manfred
>> worked like a charm to register!
>>
>> Looking forward the the meet in January and it is on the same day we sell
>> back our VW! WH!
>>
>> We are really searching for a 300TD Wagon now, the 81-85 version, and will
>> consider cars that are not projects and are solid, correct, and fully
>> functional. I know, not too demanding. hahaha!
>>
>> If anyone is considering selling their wagon, we will love and care for
>> your baby properly!
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Yep.  The no clue is one of the errors I am trying to avoid myself... Hence
the desire to get a wagon from someone that knows someone that may even
know something

Kyle

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> The info on the ad did not mention an engine swap so I assume the owner
> just has no clue.
>
> RB
>
>
> On 20/12/2016 11:24 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I figured it was an engine swap or a typo!  hahaha  I know there are no
>> "real" 6 cylinder models of what we are looking for.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> You do realize there are no 6 cylinder ones, I hope.
>>>
>>> RB
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20/12/2016 11:06 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>> The 6 cylinder one is in Ontario... That is one hell of a drive for me!
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey, if you are quick, you could get the 6 cylinder one advertised on
>>>> that
>>>>
>>>>> website. That would be a real coup as is may well be the only one.
>>>>>
>>>>> RB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 20/12/2016 10:48 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars-for-sale?make=
>>>>>
>>>>>> mercedes-benz=300td
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 83 is in cocoa beach FL.  How far is that from you Kyle?
>>>>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I figured it was an engine swap or a typo!  hahaha  I know there are no
"real" 6 cylinder models of what we are looking for.

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> You do realize there are no 6 cylinder ones, I hope.
>
> RB
>
>
> On 20/12/2016 11:06 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> The 6 cylinder one is in Ontario... That is one hell of a drive for me!
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey, if you are quick, you could get the 6 cylinder one advertised on that
>>> website. That would be a real coup as is may well be the only one.
>>>
>>> RB
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20/12/2016 10:48 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>> https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars-for-sale?make=
>>>> mercedes-benz=300td
>>>>
>>>> The 83 is in cocoa beach FL.  How far is that from you Kyle?
>>>>
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Re: [MBZ] more 300TDs

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I didnt think of that.  I will attempt a phone call in a bit.  If at all
possible I only really want to get one after I have someone that knows
their MB business checks it out with me.

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> Just my $0.02, but I’ve found that a lot of CL poster that give email
> addresses don’t respond.  If there’s a phone number, I use it.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Dec 20, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
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> >
> > I emailed the Atlanta CL seller this morning as well as the Charleston
> one
> > here. - http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5888491675.html
> >
> > No word back from either of them
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Re: [MBZ] more 300TDs

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

And honestly my wife and I prefer the W123 body style and that is what we
are attempting to get.  The newer styles are just not quite what we are
looking for.

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Kyle Arola 
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> I emailed the Atlanta CL seller this morning as well as the Charleston one
> here. - http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5888491675.html
>
> No word back from either of them
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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>
>> https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/mercedes-benz/30
>> 0td/1762161.html
>>
>> Kyle,  you will soon learn that the internet is inhabited by morons who
>> call their 300D sedan a 300TD.  Apparently they are unable to read the
>> badge on the back which only has 4 alphanumeric characters.  Beware...
>>
>> http://germancarsforsaleblog.com/tag/300td/
>>
>> http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/cto/5856177279.html
>>
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Re: [MBZ] more 300TDs

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I emailed the Atlanta CL seller this morning as well as the Charleston one
here. - http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5888491675.html

No word back from either of them

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> https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/mercedes-benz/
> 300td/1762161.html
>
> Kyle,  you will soon learn that the internet is inhabited by morons who
> call their 300D sedan a 300TD.  Apparently they are unable to read the
> badge on the back which only has 4 alphanumeric characters.  Beware...
>
> http://germancarsforsaleblog.com/tag/300td/
>
> http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/cto/5856177279.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

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The 6 cylinder one is in Ontario... That is one hell of a drive for me!

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> Hey, if you are quick, you could get the 6 cylinder one advertised on that
> website. That would be a real coup as is may well be the only one.
>
> RB
>
>
> On 20/12/2016 10:48 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars-for-sale?make=
>> mercedes-benz=300td
>>
>> The 83 is in cocoa beach FL.  How far is that from you Kyle?
>>
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Re: [MBZ] more 300TDs

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I have noticed that regarding the morons... But I shall persevere...


I looked at that one in NY, but that is pretty far to travel and I have a
natural distrust of car dealers.  My "best" senario is to get the wagon
from an enthusiast who loved/loves their car.

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> https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/mercedes-benz/
> 300td/1762161.html
>
> Kyle,  you will soon learn that the internet is inhabited by morons who
> call their 300D sedan a 300TD.  Apparently they are unable to read the
> badge on the back which only has 4 alphanumeric characters.  Beware...
>
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Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

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I emailed that seller yesterday and have not heard back from them.  They
also had it posted on Backpage and that posting has been removed.  Cocoa is
close for sure!

Kyle

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> https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars-for-sale?make=
> mercedes-benz=300td
>
> The 83 is in cocoa beach FL.  How far is that from you Kyle?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Thanks Dan!

Had a problem with the vintage Java version and my Win10 machine, had to
add some security exceptions and such. The direct sign up link from Manfred
worked like a charm to register!

Looking forward the the meet in January and it is on the same day we sell
back our VW!  WH!

We are really searching for a 300TD Wagon now, the 81-85 version, and will
consider cars that are not projects and are solid, correct, and fully
functional.  I know, not too demanding. hahaha!

If anyone is considering selling their wagon, we will love and care for
your baby properly!

Kyle



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> Kyle lives up in north central Florida near Manfred.  I saw his post on
> Benzworld last week looking for a nice 300TD to replace his soon to be
> returned VW diesel and reached out to him about our list and Manfred’s
> proximity, which really worked out well.
>
> Kyle has already paid Manfred a visit so he could test drive a diesel
> wagon, and he’s planning on attending the Manfred “Q” in January.
>
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