Re: [MBZ] It Ain't Right
Go up to Flag. :) Tom At 06:22 PM 12/22/2005 -0700, you wrote: It is supposed to be 81 degrees here on Christmas Day. That is not right. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 145K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.3/209 - Release Date: 12/21/2005
Re: [MBZ] Ebay photos
Maybe they figure the lack of light might hide some flaws? Or, they take them before (or after) work when, especially at this time of year, there's not a lot of daylight? Or they just want to take it when the light is most romantic? I dunno. Best, Tom R Sand Springs, OK At 09:33 PM 12/19/2005 -0600, you wrote: Is there some reason why these people like to take pictures at dusk or after dark? Makes no sense to me. I figured someone must know the reason. At 09:15 PM 12/19/2005, you wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300TD-WAGON-RARE-1 987-MERCEDES-300TD-WAGON-GREAT-CONDITION-NR_W0QQitemZ4599005971QQcategoryZ63 30QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Nitrogen in Tires -- Seriously?
Let's really go out on a limb and put helium in the tires. Maybe the car will float...ah, but then we'd probably have to certify it as Experimental or something with the FAA. Hey, turf war between EPA, DOT, NHTSA, and FAA, and who knows what other agencies would join in? Wow, I gotta get on the road again. Tom (can't wait to leave) Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 04:09 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: If I remember Chuck Boyle's law properly, PV=nRT, there is almost no difference between the expansion properties of air and nitrogen, being that air is 80% or so nitrogen anyway, another 20% just ain't gonna get you much. But then again I'm going to go buy a Tornado vortex generator to improve fuel/air mixing and combustion, hence fuel mileage, so what do I know. --R ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)
Thanks Larry! (Might as well talk here, not much happenin' on the F list...) I think we were almost to the point of a group buy on those puppies... Tom (ducking and spinning) Sand Springs, OK At 05:19 PM 12/15/2005 -0500, you wrote: Levi wrote:There's also cheap valve stem caps that change color when you start getting low on air that would be a good bet to save the effort as well. I bought a set of the valve stem caps and initially liked them so well I bought 2 more sets. One morning I found a flat tire, ran out with the air hose and refilled it to see if I could get to Costso for a free fix - it held air but when I put the valve cap back on the air started flooding out! O, I figure I got a bad one - then a week later one of the tires on my van (with wheelchair lift for my mom) was flat one morning - check it and, yep, *another* bad valve stem cap! The scary thing is the air didn't just seep out of the new fangled valve stem cap - it flooded out so the tire was flat again in less than a minute! If we'd been driving at 65 with the van full of people on a hot summer day when the valve stem cap decided to play dead the situation could have been serious. I removed all the tire pressure monitoring valve caps then and kept them off. I tried to find someone to report them to but they're made by several different companies in several different countries - mostly China. I sent a note to the NHTSA but never got a reply except to say they rec'd my note and would get back to me. I'm not holding my breath. ;-) If you're using these little gems be *very* careful - I refuse to ride in vehicles with them but then I rarely need to ride in someone else's car. Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D - 285K) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) Sounds like you guys need some new tires or cleaner wheels or something. Unless I've got a slow leak my tires hold their pressure other than a couple lbs difference summer to winter. In other words, I set the tire pressure in the summer ones when I put them on at around 60-70 degrees and that's good until about winter when I put the winter tires on at around 20-30 degrees. And that's fine until spring. At least here in upstate NY where the temps average around there. I'm certainly not going to run out and change my tire pressure pressure when it gets down to 5 degrees at night, then reduce them again for the ride home when it's 20 or 30 degrees... Of course I lived for a couple years in WAY upstate NY where the temps are similar except the winter ones can hit 20 below frequently and 40 below a couple times. At that point I was NOT going to go out and change the pressures again... But suffice to say the tires don't leak normally. I.e. if I fill them to 32lbs in the spring, come fall that's where they're at at the same temp. By the NEXT spring, they might be down a couple lbs, but not much. If you're checking them every week or so and the pressures are actually changing much I think you've got leaks... There's also cheap valve stem caps that change color when you start getting low on air that would be a good bet to save the effort as well. Heck, I'm not against using nitrogen, but it's an extra cost, and even if it's not supposed to leak as much as regular air, how am I going to KNOW that other than checking it at which point I'm letting some out that will need to be replaced... On 12/15/05, Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doc, Agrgavation? To me, aggravation is getting out in a cold, dark parking lot, (whoops, I forgot windy) trying to find the valve, pushing down my glasses so I can see, checking the pressure, picking UP my glasses, then finding the darned air pump either costs money or is somehow defective to my physical limitations (I'm somewhat of a klutz) so that when I try to use it I LOSE air, or the pump is actually turned off. In which case I opt for plan B, which is usually go home, park the car as close to the garage as possible, get the little portable cigarette lighter plug in generator, and then fill my tires, and 8 other ones, because my wife and daughter tell me to fill theirs as well. Aggravation? Heck, I'll pay a buck and a half per tire for nitrogen and a sexy green valve cover cap. smile Tom Sand Springs, OK At 11:54 AM 12/15/2005 -0500, you wrote: Tom Reynolds wrote: Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen fillups. Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a lot less likely to be affected
Re: [MBZ] Nitrogen in Tires -- Seriously?
Well, we don't want to try hydrogen, do we? grin Tom At 06:30 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Now that would cause problems -- helium atoms are very very tiny, and leak out of anything not metal, fairly quickly (think helium balloon vs one with air). I think they would migrate through the rubber pretty quickly. --R Tom Reynolds wrote: Let's really go out on a limb and put helium in the tires. Maybe the car will float...ah, but then we'd probably have to certify it as Experimental or something with the FAA. Hey, turf war between EPA, DOT, NHTSA, and FAA, and who knows what other agencies would join in? Wow, I gotta get on the road again. Tom (can't wait to leave) Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 04:09 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: If I remember Chuck Boyle's law properly, PV=nRT, there is almost no difference between the expansion properties of air and nitrogen, being that air is 80% or so nitrogen anyway, another 20% just ain't gonna get you much. But then again I'm going to go buy a Tornado vortex generator to improve fuel/air mixing and combustion, hence fuel mileage, so what do I know. --R ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bike racing (was: Filling tires with nitrogen)
Er, I meant bike as in bicycle racing, not (motor) bike or motorcycle racing, but hey, at least it's two wheels...(you guys are cwyzie!) Tom At 08:53 PM 12/15/2005 -0700, you wrote: Content-Disposition: inline I've been waiting for someone to mention bike racing. Here's a little taste of Moto GP for the uninitiated: http://media.putfile.com/MotogpLifessweetdrug Suddenly NASCAR looks like a bunch of hicks chasing their tails in a high-speed rush hour traffic jam, no? dons flame suit =) +dm -- Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:46:31 -0700 From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) I don't think as fast, though. Ah well, it was just a conversation starter. Anyone wanna talk about F1 or bike racing? grin Tom Sand Springs, OK ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)
I find a nice mixture of (low fat) peanut butter and SPF 50 sunscreen works wonders. You know, I wonder about the sunscreen...resists oxidation, maybe? Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 07:14 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Content-Disposition: inline And what saves my tires - Nitro filled, of course - from being attackes on the outside. C'mon, is there any sense left in this crazy world? Think of something stupid most normal people don't understand and tell 'em it's the latest hi-tech stuff, and they will come and buy it, no matter what the cost. Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D On 12/15/05, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...because air is evil and destroying your tires (or as they put it: Oxygen, on the other hand, is immensely destructive to rubber and This same process occurs in tires inflated with air as the oxygen attacks the rubber molecules, ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] OT: US influences Canada's car market
I know that in aircraft a night light is usually a red light. I'm not going to get into wavelengths or anything, other than to note that I think red light has a very short wavelength and blue is long-er than red. How much longer, if it makes any difference, why (or why not) is something I'll leave up to an optometrist, physicist (if someone studies physics, why isn't that person a physician...?) and the like. Tom (eyes closed) Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 11:05 AM 12/16/2005 -0800, you wrote: Isn't there a theory that blue light helps the eyes adjust to night vision or something similar? I don't see them anymore but I recall that stores used to advertise (in catalogues) a small light that was to be mounted on the windshield pillar on the driver's side. It had a blue lense and the idea was that the light helped one see better at night. I don't know if it was supposed to help with driving in the dark or with the eyes adjusting when one met another vehicle on a dark stretch of 2 lane highway and had to deal with the oncoming lights. Most of us now live in areas where it is never really dark because of all of the streetlights etc so it may not be useful anymore even it if actually was at some point in the past. I know it is a bit disconcerting out at the lake in the summer as it is sometimes so dark that one cannot see one's hand in front of one's face. Never seems to be like that in the City. So who knows, the underdash glow of blue may actually have some positive application? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:23 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: US influences Canada's car market David Brodbeck wrote: Maybe they're afraid of the people who buy Scions. Kind of like how insurance companies tend to charge higher rates on cars that are attractive to teenagers. Definitely idiot-oriented. Blue lights under the dash are an option on the Xa, cruise control isn't. I might not have wanted the cruise when I was 16, but I sure wouldn't have gone for the blue floor glow after I was about twelve years old. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] OT: US influences Canada's car market
Blue light special, wonder if there's any connection (or why it was even called this) blue plate special. Now I have to go to Google. Oh, boy... Tom (stop thinking!) Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 09:19 AM 12/16/2005 -0800, you wrote: It is a Kmart thing. Gets you in the mood for a bargain. Must be a way to keep you from shopping at wally world On Friday, December 16, 2005, at 11:05 AM, R A Bennell wrote: Isn't there a theory that blue light helps the eyes adjust to night vision or something similar? I don't see them anymore but I recall that stores used to advertise (in catalogues) a small light that was to be mounted on the windshield pillar on the driver's side. It had a blue lense and the idea was that the light helped one see better at night. I don't know if it was supposed to help with driving in the dark or with the eyes adjusting when one met another vehicle on a dark stretch of 2 lane highway and had to deal with the oncoming lights. Most of us now live in areas where it is never really dark because of all of the streetlights etc so it may not be useful anymore even it if actually was at some point in the past. I know it is a bit disconcerting out at the lake in the summer as it is sometimes so dark that one cannot see one's hand in front of one's face. Never seems to be like that in the City. So who knows, the underdash glow of blue may actually have some positive application? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:23 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: US influences Canada's car market David Brodbeck wrote: Maybe they're afraid of the people who buy Scions. Kind of like how insurance companies tend to charge higher rates on cars that are attractive to teenagers. Definitely idiot-oriented. Blue lights under the dash are an option on the Xa, cruise control isn't. I might not have wanted the cruise when I was 16, but I sure wouldn't have gone for the blue floor glow after I was about twelve years old. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
[MBZ] No MB content: Blue Plate Special
Well, that was pretty easy. But now I'm hungry. Why am I thinking of meat loaf...? (link to supposed origins of the term blue plate special):http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-blu3.htm Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] OT: US influences Canada's car market
Ah, I see, sorry. I started my assumption from the wrong end. Yeah, I should have realized that before I started writing, but then I'd have to engage my brain and we all know what a hazard that can be at times. grin So, additionally, that's why the safe lights in a darkroom are red or orange. My vision isn't what it used to be, and even then it wasn't particularly wonderful... Thanks for the correction, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 11:13 AM 12/16/2005 -0700, you wrote: On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:38:05 -0700 Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that in aircraft a night light is usually a red light. I'm not going to get into wavelengths or anything, other than to note that I think red light has a very short wavelength and blue is long-er than red. How much longer, if it makes any difference, why (or why not) is something I'll leave up to an optometrist, physicist (if someone studies physics, why isn't that person a physician...?) and the like. I'm a physicist; my Dad's a physician... Red light has a longer wavelength than blue light. The wavelength of red light is nearly twice as long as the wavelength of blue light. Red light affects your night vision less than blue light. Astronomers have flashlights with red filters. Craig ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
[MBZ] NFC: Track car for sale
Ex Bondurant car for sale, please contact current owner if you're interested. I have no monetary interest, have not seen the car, etc. I'm just lucky enough to be on Dan's (at Bondurant) contact list when something like this comes along. Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK From: Ron Huston[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 9:51:12 PM To: newsletter Cc: Ron Huston Subject: 95 Mustang GT #30 Auto forwarded by a Rule Would you please pass this on to whoever is handling the sale of the remaining Ford student cars? Thanks. 95 Mustang GT #30 purchased by Ron Huston, November 2003 is for sale again. I only ran it with ProAutoSports about 10 different days and the mechanicals seem just fine and ready for the track. I'm asking $8,000. If you happen to get an inquiry for a GT I would be grateful if you would pass them to me or, give them my name. Ron Huston, Home 520-797-1315 or, Cell 520-850-8435 Thanks, Ron -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials
Outsmart everyone. Fill with nitrogen and then put green valve caps on so you know it's not air in there any more. Actually, I think some major stores are doing just that, maybe even Costco. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 06:19 PM 12/14/2005 -0800, you wrote: LT, did he offer you the proper Teutonic Air or was he able to assure you that common Iowa air is good enough for the tires, since they are not OEM and long out of warranty? I am sure I do not need to order the air from Rusty, as I am using nasty cheapo tires on Gump. On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, at 05:20 PM, LT Don wrote: Actually, I shouldn't trash Gary. I got him that last few times I called (except I got Rusty for the most important order, but that was because I asked for him). Gary is good on the phone. He was very professional until he realized who I was. And then he turned into Howard Stern on the wrong meds. But in the end, in spite of himself, he guided me toward what I needed to go along with the part I was ordering, etc. Yea, maybe he called me a few names and was abusive (in a good natured way) and kept me on the phone for a long time, but that is what builds long-term customers, letting them know that you as a vendor really care about the customer and his/her needs. Gary is very helpful on the phone. Prior to talking to him, I had no idea that I had to periodically replace the air in my tires. On 12/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, especially if you are from canada. LT Don wrote: You call and ask to speak to anyone other than Gary. On 12/15/05, Mike Piles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rusty how do I take advantage of this special? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)
List, Is that what the stores do who fill up tires with nitrogen? Thanks, Tom At 09:49 AM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Temperature changes will affect the nitrogen the same. The real gain is no moisture but to get there you need to fill bleed out the nitrogen 3 - 4 times so that all of the air is purged out of the tire. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Reynolds Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:40 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen fillups. Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a lot less likely to be affected by temperature changes. Anyone know of any place in the Tulsa area that can fill up tires with nitrogen? Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 07:35 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote: My local Tire Warehouse offers nitrogen, offers free refills if any leaks out. I've been sort of thinking that when I put new skins on the 190D I'll actually get nice tires for the first time in my life (rather than store brand) and maybe get the nitrogen, its only like $6 more. -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:22:16 -0700 From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-ED93C79 Outsmart everyone. Fill with nitrogen and then put green valve caps on so you know it's not air in there any more. Actually, I think some major stores are doing just that, maybe even Costco. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)
Actually, upon looking at the statement, temperature changes will affect nitrogen the same that's not true. Being more inert (less water content) than compressed air, a nitrogen filled tire will not be nearly as affected by temperature variations as a compressed air filled tire. Thus, it's safer, easier to control for racing conditions (one less variable to worry about), etc. Used by airlines and NASCAR for the two reasons cited above, and the list goes on, check Google. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 09:54 AM 12/15/2005 -0700, you wrote: List, Is that what the stores do who fill up tires with nitrogen? Thanks, Tom At 09:49 AM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Temperature changes will affect the nitrogen the same. The real gain is no moisture but to get there you need to fill bleed out the nitrogen 3 - 4 times so that all of the air is purged out of the tire. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Reynolds Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:40 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen fillups. Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a lot less likely to be affected by temperature changes. Anyone know of any place in the Tulsa area that can fill up tires with nitrogen? Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 07:35 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote: My local Tire Warehouse offers nitrogen, offers free refills if any leaks out. I've been sort of thinking that when I put new skins on the 190D I'll actually get nice tires for the first time in my life (rather than store brand) and maybe get the nitrogen, its only like $6 more. -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:22:16 -0700 From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-ED93C79 Outsmart everyone. Fill with nitrogen and then put green valve caps on so you know it's not air in there any more. Actually, I think some major stores are doing just that, maybe even Costco. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)
Heh heh, GROUP BUY!!! grin Tom At 10:23 AM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: There is a big sunoco refinery over in west tulsa your direction, close to the big sinclair refinery. Tom Reynolds wrote: Kinda like filling up at Sunoco with their blended pumps. Remember that? Is Sunoco still around, and if so, do they still give you the option of Sunoco 260 and down to whatever their lowest grade was? Hmmm Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 10:15 AM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Probably not and at 32 PSI, you will end up with 1/3 air mixed with 2/3 pure nitrogen. The results still are better than just air since you will have 1/3 the moisture in your tires. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Reynolds Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:55 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) List, Is that what the stores do who fill up tires with nitrogen? Thanks, Tom At 09:49 AM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Temperature changes will affect the nitrogen the same. The real gain is no moisture but to get there you need to fill bleed out the nitrogen 3 - 4 times so that all of the air is purged out of the tire. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Reynolds Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:40 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen fillups. Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a lot less likely to be affected by temperature changes. Anyone know of any place in the Tulsa area that can fill up tires with nitrogen? Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 07:35 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote: My local Tire Warehouse offers nitrogen, offers free refills if any leaks out. I've been sort of thinking that when I put new skins on the 190D I'll actually get nice tires for the first time in my life (rather than store brand) and maybe get the nitrogen, its only like $6 more. -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:22:16 -0700 From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-ED93C79 Outsmart everyone. Fill with nitrogen and then put green valve caps on so you know it's not air in there any more. Actually, I think some major stores are doing just that, maybe even Costco. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)
No gimmick. Science. Physics. etc. But, yeah, on a practical note, as none of us (well, few of us) are out there on public roads pretending to be doing laps at (insert race track of your choice here), the only real benefit we'll likely see is increased fuel mileage because our tires no longer have such a decrease in pressure because of temperature change. And, don't quote me on this, but I *think* I remember that nitrogen is a more dense gas (compared to our friend compressed air) so is more likely to hang around in the tire than the other stuff. And, for people who normally check their tires once a week or once every two weeks, that chore should be lessened as well, so less bending down and messing with dirty valve cap covers, etc. Best, Tom Sand Springs, OK At 11:26 AM 12/15/2005 -0500, you wrote: Content-Disposition: inline If there's a Tire Discounters where you are, they exclusively use nitrogen to fill all the tires they sell. I think it's a gimmick, though - you're not driving fast enough to really take advantage of the properties of nitrogen filling. On 12/15/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a big sunoco refinery over in west tulsa your direction, close to the big sinclair refinery. Tom Reynolds wrote: Kinda like filling up at Sunoco with their blended pumps. Remember that? Is Sunoco still around, and if so, do they still give you the option of Sunoco 260 and down to whatever their lowest grade was? Hmmm Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 10:15 AM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Probably not and at 32 PSI, you will end up with 1/3 air mixed with 2/3 pure nitrogen. The results still are better than just air since you will have 1/3 the moisture in your tires. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Reynolds Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:55 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) List, Is that what the stores do who fill up tires with nitrogen? Thanks, Tom At 09:49 AM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Temperature changes will affect the nitrogen the same. The real gain is no moisture but to get there you need to fill bleed out the nitrogen 3 - 4 times so that all of the air is purged out of the tire. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Reynolds Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:40 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials) Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen fillups. Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a lot less likely to be affected by temperature changes. Anyone know of any place in the Tulsa area that can fill up tires with nitrogen? Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 07:35 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote: My local Tire Warehouse offers nitrogen, offers free refills if any leaks out. I've been sort of thinking that when I put new skins on the 190D I'll actually get nice tires for the first time in my life (rather than store brand) and maybe get the nitrogen, its only like $6 more. -Curt Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:22:16 -0700 From: Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Year End Specials To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-ED93C79 Outsmart everyone. Fill with nitrogen and then put green valve caps on so you know it's not air in there any more. Actually, I think some major stores are doing just that, maybe even Costco. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen
Yes, chemical reaction with compressed air and aluminum wheels, not so with inert nitrogen gas. Less tire filling. Yea! Tom SS, OK At 10:49 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote: I understand it helps to prevent leaks with aluminum wheels. Exactly why, I am not sure? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 8:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen I was in Guadalajara Mexico this Summer and there were car washers that were pushing this, they seemed to be having a lot of success getting customers. Surprised people would pay for this, sort of, luxury item. Dan 82 300D-T 90kmi Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)
Doc, Agrgavation? To me, aggravation is getting out in a cold, dark parking lot, (whoops, I forgot windy) trying to find the valve, pushing down my glasses so I can see, checking the pressure, picking UP my glasses, then finding the darned air pump either costs money or is somehow defective to my physical limitations (I'm somewhat of a klutz) so that when I try to use it I LOSE air, or the pump is actually turned off. In which case I opt for plan B, which is usually go home, park the car as close to the garage as possible, get the little portable cigarette lighter plug in generator, and then fill my tires, and 8 other ones, because my wife and daughter tell me to fill theirs as well. Aggravation? Heck, I'll pay a buck and a half per tire for nitrogen and a sexy green valve cover cap. smile Tom Sand Springs, OK At 11:54 AM 12/15/2005 -0500, you wrote: Tom Reynolds wrote: Yep, I think I'm going to look around the Tulsa area for nitrogen fillups. Being more inert than the common air from compressed air pumps, it's a lot less likely to be affected by temperature changes. Anyone know of any place in the Tulsa area that can fill up tires with nitrogen? The air surrounding us is 80% nitrogen! The removal of the 20% that consists MOSTLY of oxygen and carbon dioxide doesn't substantially change the way the gas reacts to temperature. There are some theoretical advantages to using nitrogen compared to using air, but the reward doesn't begin to warrant the cost (the reward is extremely small and the cost in money and aggravation is relatively MUCH larger IN MY OPINION). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)
There's water in the compressed air, but not in the nitrogen. That's what makes it temperature sensitive. Best, Tom At 10:16 AM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote: Tom Reynolds wrote: Actually, upon looking at the statement, temperature changes will affect nitrogen the same that's not true. Being more inert (less water content) than compressed air, a nitrogen filled tire will not be nearly as affected by temperature variations as a compressed air filled tire. I don't get it. It's been a long time since I took physics, but all gases are going to expand and contract with temperature, aren't they? Maybe I'm just not clear on what the problem people are trying to solve is. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)
Yes and no. There IS (believe me folks, I'm not making this up...) a performance benefit. You know, for example, how engineers try to make a chassis as stiff as possible? That's because if the chassis is stiff, it takes a big variable out of suspension tuning. They can concentrate on the plethora of mystical things that Steve Matchett, for example, talks about in attempting to dial a car in to its maximum performance capability at that track in those conditions at that time. Same thing for tires. Cars handle differently when tire pressures change, and with uneven tire pressures (other than desired by those smart engineers). Been to an autocross? Competitors there (and moreso at higher levels of competition) check their pressures after every run. And adjust them. Aircraft use nitrogen in tires, F1, NASCAR, etc. Really. But, of course, having said that, will it make a noticeable difference to Joe or Josephine Driver? Hey, I don't know. Would I like to try it? Sure, why not? Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 12:31 PM 12/15/2005 -0600, you wrote: Content-Disposition: inline The only reason for using Nitrogen is not in the tire performance aspect, but important for a shop functioning in cold, subfreezing weather. Water freezes. Compressor air has water in it. Purchased Nitrogen has no water in it. Shop tools, such as air driven impacts, hoist controls and what not, will fail if water droplets freeze in them. It is cheaper for shops like D.T. or COSTCO to buy Nitrogen rather than dehydrating compressor air. On 12/15/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Reynolds wrote: Actually, upon looking at the statement, temperature changes will affect nitrogen the same that's not true. Being more inert (less water content) than compressed air, a nitrogen filled tire will not be nearly as affected by temperature variations as a compressed air filled tire. I don't get it. It's been a long time since I took physics, but all gases are going to expand and contract with temperature, aren't they? Maybe I'm just not clear on what the problem people are trying to solve is. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Filling tires with nitrogen (was Re: Year End Specials)
I don't think as fast, though. Ah well, it was just a conversation starter. Anyone wanna talk about F1 or bike racing? grin Tom Sand Springs, OK At 12:19 PM 12/15/2005 -0800, you wrote: Tom Reynolds wrote: Doc, Agrgavation? To me, aggravation is getting out in a cold, dark parking lot, (whoops, I forgot windy) trying to find the valve, pushing down my glasses so I can see, checking the pressure, picking UP my glasses, then finding the darned air pump either costs money or is somehow defective to my physical limitations (I'm somewhat of a klutz) so that when I try to use it I LOSE air, or the pump is actually turned off. If your tires leak air, they're gonna leak nitrogen, too. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Replacing light bulb for gearshift selector light
Jim, I think Howard Ginsberg just did this to the car I'm getting from him on Saturday. You can email him directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe just forward this email to him? Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 08:29 PM 12/13/2005 -0800, you wrote: My light bulb underneath the gearshift lights went out and I bought a new bulb to replace it. I need to remove the gearshift cover to get to the bulbholder, but HOW does one remove the gearshift cover in an 84 300D? Can it be done without removing the ashtray? Any suggestions are most helpful. Thanks, Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
[MBZ] Cash: $ now takes Tulsa area 300E
'Star' (1988 300E) is for sale as a parts car, or possibly as a fix 'er up project. See pictures at: http://www.tomandkarenspage.com/cars/starspage.html The engine starts and runs great, biggest possible problem is that although the driver's door opens, there is a noise when so doing. More when you open it than when you close it. I'll be happy to provide you with more information. I do need immediate payment, (wire transfer?) but the car will be here for a pick up later on, it's not like it's going anywhere (nor am I). You'd need to come pick it up at my house in Sand Springs, just west of Tulsa. If anyone's interested, please email me. Thanks all very much Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK P.S. I was sourcing parts last Friday, and it didn't look like it was going to be more than around $600 or so, but then there'd be the Mercedes jig and alignment cost, plus labor and paint. If you have a body shop, it might be worthwhile. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Cash: $ now takes Tulsa area 300E
Sorry, that was the side the light pole jumped in front of me on, I should have been in England, or Australia, or ...(RHD) Tom At 12:09 PM 12/14/2005 -0600, you wrote: Doggoneit! Why'd ya have to crunch up the left front corner and hood? If you had done in some other corner, I'd have bought it in a flash. I still need a hood, grille and L headlight assy for the 124 Bambi altercation. At 12:12 PM 12/14/2005, you wrote: 'Star' (1988 300E) is for sale as a parts car, or possibly as a fix 'er up project. See pictures at: http://www.tomandkarenspage.com/cars/starspage.html The engine starts and runs great, biggest possible problem is that although the driver's door opens, there is a noise when so doing. More when you open it than when you close it. I'll be happy to provide you with more information. I do need immediate payment, (wire transfer?) but the car will be here for a pick up later on, it's not like it's going anywhere (nor am I). You'd need to come pick it up at my house in Sand Springs, just west of Tulsa. If anyone's interested, please email me. Thanks all very much Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK P.S. I was sourcing parts last Friday, and it didn't look like it was going to be more than around $600 or so, but then there'd be the Mercedes jig and alignment cost, plus labor and paint. If you have a body shop, it might be worthwhile. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Buying a car in GA and registering it in OK:
I called the Sand Springs tag agency and they told me the registration amount is going to be $44.50 or $45.50, something like that. Excise tax is separate? Thanks, Tom At 07:53 PM 12/12/2005 -0600, you wrote: Content-Disposition: inline You'll also need the bill of sale for the amout to pay the excise tax on in OK when you first register the car. The tag agency here in OK just needs the title, proof of insurance, the vehicle (so they can check the VIN) and, erm, money (for the new tags). -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Buying a car in GA and registering it in OK:
Well, if I have it on the Bill of Sale that the purchase price is $4000, they'll have to base it on that. Right? Sounds like I have to go to the tag agency tomorrow and ask a couple questions, one for the car I'm buying, and one for the car you're buying. The link you provided, Kaleb, was one they told me I could do if I wanted for a fee of $10, I just want to find out the right way to do it from the horse's mouth, like I did from the Georgia Department of Revenue. That way nothing comes back to bite me in the ass. I'll email you what they say so we'll know exactly what to do Wednesday morning. Best, Tom At 08:10 PM 12/12/2005 -0600, you wrote: yes, its based on the actual purchase price. The catch is they have a min amount which is usually way high. Tom Reynolds wrote: I called the Sand Springs tag agency and they told me the registration amount is going to be $44.50 or $45.50, something like that. Excise tax is separate? Thanks, Tom At 07:53 PM 12/12/2005 -0600, you wrote: Content-Disposition: inline You'll also need the bill of sale for the amout to pay the excise tax on in OK when you first register the car. The tag agency here in OK just needs the title, proof of insurance, the vehicle (so they can check the VIN) and, erm, money (for the new tags). -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Buying a car in GA and registering it in OK:
What was the purchase price of the vehicle you registered? Do they take plastic? thanks, Tom At 08:13 PM 12/12/2005 -0600, you wrote: Content-Disposition: inline Yup - it sure is. Just paid for both when I registered the '90 300D 2.5 last month. Here's the list from the receipts: Title fee Excise tax Insurance fee Mail fee Notary fee (yes - the tile was notarized before I walked in) Inspection fee Registration fee Waste tire fee Most of these are between $1 and $5, but the excise tax was $118 !! On 12/12/05, Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I called the Sand Springs tag agency and they told me the registration amount is going to be $44.50 or $45.50, something like that. Excise tax is separate? Thanks, Tom At 07:53 PM 12/12/2005 -0600, you wrote: Content-Disposition: inline You'll also need the bill of sale for the amout to pay the excise tax on in OK when you first register the car. The tag agency here in OK just needs the title, proof of insurance, the vehicle (so they can check the VIN) and, erm, money (for the new tags). -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Buying a car in GA and registering it in OK:
So, they charged you, what, $118 excise tax on a $4500 purchase price, that's 2.6%. So, for me that should equate to $104.00. I wonder where all that money goes? Doubt it's for new roads, 51st Street is a mess... Best regards, and thanks for the tips, Tom At 08:37 PM 12/12/2005 -0600, you wrote: Content-Disposition: inline $4500, and only Discover, and they charge a fee for using it. A check is the best way -- On 12/12/05, Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What was the purchase price of the vehicle you registered? Do they take plastic? thanks, Tom -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
[MBZ] Email to OK tag agency for official word from horse's mouth
Well, I just emailed the Prattville tag agency, we'll see what the official word is. When (if) I get a reply I'll post it here for all to see. Here's the email I sent: Hi Berta, Car number 1, a total loss 1988 Mercedes-Benz 300E. I'm going to sell it for parts to a guy who lives in Claremore and is coming over to my house Wednesday morning to pick it up. I have the original Oklahoma title. I suppose at some point I would receive a salvage title from the insurance company (AIG) who declared it a total loss and issued me a check for it? What's the best way for me to sell the car to the guy from Claremore? Car number 2 is also a 1988 Mercedes-Benz 300E. The car I'm buying is from Georgia. I'm picking it up Saturday and will most likely bring it to the tag agency on Monday. In order for me to register this car is all that I have to do is bring the car's title, the car, and some form of payment? Can you tell me what it will cost to register the car in Oklahoma? There's no lien on it or anything. Thanks very much for your help, I need an answer before Wednesday so I'll know what to do about the parts car I'm selling on Wednesday morning. Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
[MBZ] Oklahoma's rules for excise tax on vehicles
Got this from the site at http://www.oktax.state.ok.us/excise.html It does state that vehicle condition is not relevant, they take an average valuation without considering condition. Having said that, this blurb is basically what we've been discussing. I know Arizona used NADA values, OK doesn't say *where* they get their values from (what source or sources). Standard vehicle excise tax is assessed as follows: New Vehicle: 3.25% of the purchase price (or taxable value, if different) Used Vehicle: $20.00 on the 1st $1250.00 of value + 3.25% of the remainder* * Effective July 1, 2002, the excise tax will be assessed at $20.00 on the 1st $1500.00 of value + 3.25% of the remainder) So, using my soon to be purchased 300E, I key in the zip code for Sand Springs, the vehicle type, make, year, model and trim, and, voila! NADA says that the value of my used car is $3775.00 average retail. Going by the formula above, (hey, it's 6 A.M., I'm drinking some coffee, and the most exciting thing I'll probably be doing today is playing frisbee with one of the dogs...) we get $20 on the first $1500 (leaving a balance of $2275.) which we then tax at 3.25% = $73.94 for a total of $93.74. If that's what they use for their value. If not, well, back to square one, I guess. More later, and everyone have a great day~ Tom SS, OK -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Oil Analysis
Here's Larry's email address. He and I were both mentioned in last year's Scottsdale Barrett-Jackson Auction. Our 15 minutes of fame. And, to be perfectly honest, I don't think they mentioned our names, just the questions or comments we sent in. Let me graft some stuff from his sig line; Sincerely, Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info Best regards, tell him Tom says hi, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 10:33 AM 12/13/2005 -0500, you wrote: Does he have a web site? Do they check soot? Sounds like a good deal. J.B. At 10:18 AM 12/13/2005, you wrote: Just wanted to drop a note with kudos for Larry T and his Oil Analysis Company. I just got the results back from the second test on my '96 Dodge Dakota. I LOVE it when the results match what I expected. Fuel in the oil was up a bit which is probably because my wife drives the truck and just sticks around town. At the last sample we'd just come back from a trip with 900 highway miles which kept that number down. I haven't been doing analysis on Hammie (the 240D) because he consumes so much oil it doesn't seem like its worth it, but I will on the 190D once I start driving that regularly. Anyway 3 samples from Larry is $55 and TOTALLY worth it. I'd shopped around before and most labs I found were $25 a pop and didn't have bellows samplers to draw the sample up the dipstick hole. -Curt - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/199 - Release Date: 12/13/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/199 - Release Date: 12/13/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers
I know that some shocks can be rebuilt. I think I had some on a previous car that I sent to Hilliard, OH (Truechoice?) for rebuilding. I think they were Koni shocks and the rebuild cost around $85. less freight. If I'm correct about this you can give the car the old rebound test, although I'm pretty sure other listers will chime in with better ways to check. Get over the appropriate corner of the car (where you think the bad shock is located) and push like heck on it a few times. Then when you stop pushing, see how long/how many times it bounces up before it finally settles down. Anything more than one cycle means that the shock is in need of replacement. The shock modulates the action of the springs, if there were no shocks, the springs would just keep going boing, boing, boing, (techincal terminology) and you'd never get a stable ride. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 11:58 AM 12/13/2005 -0500, you wrote: How do you know when to replace the shocks ? Does anybody ever just keep the orginals ? Dan E 82 300D-T 90kmi Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Buying a car in GA and registering it in OK:
Well boys and girls, yesterday I went to the Georgia Tax Commission's website and looked up the local (Fayette County) tag office location, and sent them the following email: I'm coming in with my daughter on Saturday (December 17) to purchase a 1988 Mercedes-Benz 300E from a resident of Peachtree City. On Sunday my daughter and I will be leaving to drive back to Tulsa. What do we need to do in order to buy the car properly and make sure that there are no glitches on our way back to Oklahoma? Here's what I'm thinking of and please feel free to add or modify this; Proof of insurance on the car we're purchasing Bill of Sale from seller (should include vehicle VIN, seller's name, address, and phone number) Title should be transferred, should this (or anything else) be notarized? If so, can it be done at a bank, or should it be done at the tag office ahead of Saturday? Do we need to put anything in the rear window, like a sign saying Vehicle in Transit or get any kind of a driveaway permit? Thanks very much for your help. I need this information pretty quickly, as we are coming in Saturday (leaving Tulsa this Friday night) so anything you can do to ease this process will be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs (just west of Tulsa) OK 918-246-9543 (from the site at:http://www.dmvs.ga.gov/locate/tagoffices/Tagoffices.asp?county=112ty pe=cx=34y=16) Pretty well worded, don't you think? And, for all who have been keeping up with the thread on Buying a car in GA and registering it in OK here's the official word from a person, (George Wingo), employed by the State of Georgia, Department of Revenue, who works at the Fayette County Tag Office location: You have it figured out pretty well. In GA you can drive 30 days with a Bill of Sale and insurance before being required to register the vehicle. I cannot say about other states. You should insist on a TITLE along with the vehicle. That should be all you need. George Wingo So, from the horse's mouth. And, just called my insurance company, incredibly she said my rates will go DOWN ~$80 per year (but I don't know if that takes into account the two claims we've had recently). So, they'll mail (and fax) a proof of insurance card so I'll have it for the trip back (told them I'd be picking up the car on the 17th). The tag agency here in OK just needs the title, proof of insurance, the vehicle (so they can check the VIN) and, erm, money (for the new tags). On the vehicle that I'm selling to Kaleb, when he picks it up on Wednesday morning, all we'll have to do is transfer the title, he keeps the plate from that one. So, everything's coming together. Oh, I had ordered a right hand side headlight cover assembly for Star, and of course the way things turned out, I didn't need it. Randy (EPS) Steele told me that I could return it, no restocking charge, so I sent that back to him today. If anyone needs one of those, it should be back in stock by Friday. Best regards to all Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
[MBZ] Buying a car in GA and registering it in OK
Well, as some of you may know by now, I'm buying Howard Ginsberg's 1988 300E. Howard and the car ('Providence') are in Georgia, and I'm driving down there next weekend with my daughter. Does anyone have 1st hand experience in how GA treats the license plates (tags)? Here's what I've been told by a GA resident, but I'd like confirmation one way or t'other. I think what he said is that the plates transfer with the car and not the owner. So, I'd be driving back to Tulsa with GA plates, a Bill of Sale, and a signed over title. Right? Wrong? Thanks all very much, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
[MBZ] 93 W201 Sportline for sale in Tulsa
Dear listers; Until today, I had an appointment for 1:00 P.M. tomorrow (Sunday) to see a 1993 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.6 Sportline. It's silver, has 123k miles, has lately been serviced by Sid and Denny at Benzin Motor Works, has all (I'm pretty sure) records, automatic transmission, and the bench rear seat. Sounds like a great car, and I was seriously thinking of buying it if it was as pleasant as I was hoping it would be, but then I found a great 300E, and in my circumstances I prefer the 300E (even though it's not a Sportline) over a 2.6 Sportline W201. So, if anyone is interested in this car, please give Jane a call on her cell at 918-361-3421 or 918-378-7731 or at home at 918-227-0591 where you may get her husband Jack. (enough numbers?) It was advertised in the Tulsa World, which is how I found out about it. The asking price in the ad is $4750.00 I have no financial interest, etc. and have not seen the car. But, I was interested enough to set up an appointment to look at it, and would have if I hadn't found another car I'd like better. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Buying a car in GA and registering it in OK
No, I inquired about that one lately as well, but Howard sold it some time ago, think maybe a few years ago, but a long-ish time, I know I would have been kicking myself if it just would have been sold a few months before I started looking. This one is burgundy/palomino with 162k, a '88 300E. Best, Tom At 05:35 PM 12/10/2005 -0500, you wrote: Content-Disposition: inline is that the manny tranny one he told me was sold when i enquired about it several years ago?? On 12/10/05, Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, as some of you may know by now, I'm buying Howard Ginsberg's 1988 300E. Howard and the car ('Providence') are in Georgia, and I'm driving down there next weekend with my daughter. Does anyone have 1st hand experience in how GA treats the license plates (tags)? Here's what I've been told by a GA resident, but I'd like confirmation one way or t'other. I think what he said is that the plates transfer with the car and not the owner. So, I'd be driving back to Tulsa with GA plates, a Bill of Sale, and a signed over title. Right? Wrong? Thanks all very much, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] 93 W201 Sportline for sale in Tulsa
Well, yeah, as opposed to the two individual buckets in the 500E (or the 928). Jane did say you could seat three back there, but that the person in the middle was going to be pretty uncomfortable, as the rear armrest would be in the center of their back. Tom At 05:41 PM 12/10/2005 -0500, you wrote: Tom Reynolds wrote: and the bench rear seat. By bench, do you mean three across seating? Sportline seats are double bucket, it really would not be comfortable to sit in the middle. Also, the front seats are heavily bolstered on the sides. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Scrofulous
Definition of character? LOL. At 09:25 AM 12/08/2005 -0500, you wrote: Tom Reynolds wrote: Hmm, morally degenerate...OTOH, what's he gonna do, sue you? There are plenty of people who will sue for definition of character. The less character they have, they more likely they are to sue anybody who points it out. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Weather
Tulsa (Sand Springs) had about 2 inches, maybe, of snow. Nice dry powder. Temp this morning when I went out to shovel a bit was 7, but that was about 9:30 A.M. I miss Arizona. Oh well... :( Tom At 10:43 AM 12/08/2005 -0600, you wrote: Lt. Don wrote: You folks aren't even in the contest. This is our first morning this week when the temperature was above 0F when I drove to work. Today it was a sweltering +9F at 7:00 a.m., up 18 degrees from yesterday morning's temps. ... Oh, car has not failed me at all since adding 2 cups of distilled water to the battery. In Wichita, it was minus 4 this morning with 1-2 inches of snow. Donald H. Snook ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Weather
We were in Hereford, just south of Sierra Vista, at around 4700'. We could see the snow on the mountains around us, but only got it on the ground at our level around 2 times a year, and it was mostly gone by 2 P.M. Of course, not good if you wanted to x/c ski... Tom At 10:08 AM 12/08/2005 -0700, you wrote: Tom sighed: I miss Arizona. Oh well... It was 39 this morning, but it is going to be 72 this afternoon. Sorry. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 144K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Scrofulous
Hmm, morally degenerate...OTOH, what's he gonna do, sue you? grin Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 03:46 PM 12/08/2005 -0600, you wrote: I used the word scrofulous in a legal brief yesterday. I was very proud of myself and the new word. Although, if the attorney on the other side looks up the word, he might not like having his legal reasoning described that way. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
[MBZ] Recommended Tulsa area independents?
Hi gang, Found a 300E that might not be a total POS and reasonably priced. But, said car has a few problems. And, it has a salvage title. Known problems (so far) are that the cruise control, while for a time intermittant, now seems to finally bit the bullet and died. Also, the aircon doesn't work. The heater, on the other hand, does work, but current owner says the fan never seems to go completely off. Are the problems with the cc and the a/c-fan issue something that can be pretty easily (read cheaply) fixed? And, if it passes a PPI (am thinking about Benzin, but will consider other recommendations) should a salvage title concern me if I plan to keep the car? (Current owner has no idea why it has a salvage title, he bought it from his brother.) I should get the VIN and run a Carfax, maybe? Thanks very much, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/05/2005
Re: [MBZ] Recommended Tulsa area independents?
Thanks Rusty, I found out that here in Oklahoma, you can have a salvage car repaired, take the receipts and the car to a tag agency, and they can issue a rebuild (or maybe it was rebuilt and I just wasn't hearing too well that day) title. And, yeah, I know that it can be for an economic total or a structural total, could be something minor, I'm hoping that, if things get that far, to have a good PPI done. Just want to get some ideas on how much it might cost to fix an inoperative cruise control and a fluctuating heater fan (doesn't seem to shut off completely) and (not too important right now) inoperative aircon for a 1987 300E. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 07:22 AM 12/07/2005 -0600, you wrote: Salvage title in my state (IA) means the car was totalled, then repaired. Depending on what caused it to be totalled, could mean problems with structural integrity that you might not discover until your next bad accident, or a tendency to rust prematurely. Or it could be fine. Get it checked carefully, and take a hefty discount for the salvage title. -- Dan Weeks 82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 186k 82 Mercedes 300SD, 275k ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Some things are just plain wrong
Don't know the official terminology, but gravel pits? Big heavy machinery, etc. As I type this I'm trying to remember why they do it, though... Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 07:41 AM 12/07/2005 -0600, you wrote: OK. Here is my trivia question: Where in the United States do folks drive on the left? (Unless it has changed in the last 20 years). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:47 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Some things are just plain wrong THere's that old joke about the switchover, wanting to ease into it. On Monday all trucks and buses will switch sides, and if it works out OK on Tuesday the cars will switch too. --R Jim Cathey wrote: It was, I believe in the early 60', when Sweden changed from L/H to R/H traffic. They did it over night and had minor mishaps. Swedes I worked with years ago said that after much argument back and forth and wrangling about the details, it was decreed by the King to be on such-and-such a day. And so it was. Traffic accidents went _down_, too. Mostly because everybody was being extremely careful at first. -- Jim ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Recommended Tulsa area independents?
Bob, doh!!! Sorry Dan, it's just to friggin' cold and I'm going blind looking at cars from $4000 and under 50 miles from 74063 to see/read/type straight any more. :-( Sigh, Tom (er, I *think* it's Tom...) Sand Springs, OK At 08:55 AM 12/07/2005 -0600, you wrote: You're welcome, Jim! :-) Dan Thanks Rusty, I found out that here in Oklahoma, you can have a salvage car repaired, take the receipts and the car to a tag agency, and they can issue a rebuild (or maybe it was rebuilt and I just wasn't hearing too well that day) title. And, yeah, I know that it can be for an economic total or a structural total, could be something minor, I'm hoping that, if things get that far, to have a good PPI done. Just want to get some ideas on how much it might cost to fix an inoperative cruise control and a fluctuating heater fan (doesn't seem to shut off completely) and (not too important right now) inoperative aircon for a 1987 300E. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 07:22 AM 12/07/2005 -0600, you wrote: Salvage title in my state (IA) means the car was totalled, then repaired. Depending on what caused it to be totalled, could mean problems with structural integrity that you might not discover until your next bad accident, or a tendency to rust prematurely. Or it could be fine. Get it checked carefully, and take a hefty discount for the salvage title. -- Dan Weeks 82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 186k 82 Mercedes 300SD, 275k ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- Dan Weeks 82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 186k 82 Mercedes 300SD, 275k ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?
How about Valentine? Have them equip the vehicles going up there for safety's sake. Might not be a bad idea to check with some cell phone companies to see if they cover the areas to be driven, maybe they can supply phones/intercoms for the event. Car to car communications as well as possible emergency situations. Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 11:17 AM 12/07/2005 -0500, you wrote: Content-Disposition: inline How about Willy Nelson's biodiesel company? There's somebody with money and an actual link to the cause! Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 12/7/05, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris mentioned: but we could still advertise the list with magnets on our cars...without the list we'd all be on our own. They do a thing out here each year, the Copperstate 1000 (or something like that), which is not a rally...it's just vintage cars going roundy roundy in Arizona. They have sponsors galore. I'd bet we'd be surprised at the sponsors we could get. We'd have to think outside the box. I will get in touch with those Copperstate dudes and ask them how they go about getting sponsors for something that isn't a race or a rally. I'm sure they have good ideas and methods. Our possibilities could be Mobil 1, Hengst/Mann Filters, Bosch, Michelin, etc. Could go into REI (camping gear) and stuff like that. I'm sure, once we get something tenativly hammered out, Chuck would be happy to speak to Mr. Frank Barrett. Chuck is a very benevolent, diplomatic human. Bob Rentfro (studying route to Deadhorse) '77 300D 144K Litchfield Park, AZ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Credos
Yeah, sometimes junk is junque g Tom SS, OK At 08:40 AM 12/07/2005 -0800, you wrote: Hey, even if it _is_ junk doesn't mean it's bad either! Amazing what you can do with junk sometimes. -- Jim ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?
Never having done this, but just thinking out loud would it be possible to rent a mailbox at one of those Mailboxes, Etc. or such and then ship it to that address? But, then you face the possibility of having one of the staff at the place reroute it. Of course, that could happen at any time, anywhere. Just wonderin' Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 12:07 PM 12/07/2005 -0500, you wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: been thinking of that. No permit is needed in Alaska AT ALL to carrry a concealed weapon. I think I would have my PPK/S and AR-15 carbine transferred to an FFL in some AK gun shop along the route and pick them up there and ship back the same way. Annoying but simple solution. You could mail the AR to yourself general delivery at an AK post office. USPS won't allow handguns unfortunately. I don't know if you could UPS it to yourself for counter pickup. The problem is that UPS only takes handguns by overnight air, which is expensive to AK and I bet they don't want it sitting there for a couple weeks while you're enroute. They might also refuse to give it to a private person, even if it's the same guy who shipped it. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/06/2005
Re: [MBZ] OT - CarFax Anyone?
Ralph, Before you go near a Boxster, go to PPBB (Porsche Pete's Boxster Board) and read about the Rear Main Seal (RMS) and other associated problems. They can happen to ANY Boxster, and can REPEAT as well. Also other somewhat associated problems, non concentric shafts, etc. Not only with the Boxster, but the 996 and 997 models as well. Better to find out before than after. Best regards, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 10:17 PM 12/05/2005 -0500, you wrote: Hi Folks, Just wondering if someone has an open CarFax? Wife is looking at a local Porsche Boxster with a suspect history. If someone could run it for us we would greatly appreciate it. Kaleb perhaps? 2001 BoxsterVIN WP0CA29851U625549 Ralph Wasserbaech '83 300CD my car '90 300D '01 E320 Wagonwife's cars '82 300TD parts car '82 300TD currently smashed ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/05/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/05/2005
[MBZ] Dave Peters?
Hi all, sorry for the cross post, but wanted to reach as many as possible in one shot. Am trying to reach Dave Peters of Indepedence, Kansas. Not sure what section he'd belong to, but have one phone number which I tried calling and it rings and rings and, well, you know. Anyone have contact information for him or possibly an email address or ?? Thanks very much for your help. Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK (only 105 miles from Dave, if I could reach him) -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/05/2005
Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?
I'm gettin' hypothermia just *thinking* about it. 17F with some wind and outside for 8 minutes letting the dogs out in the morning just about kills me. Tom Sand Springs, OK At 02:05 PM 12/06/2005 -0800, you wrote: oh yes. I think the Arctic Circle is mile 115 on the Dalton Hwy...it starts in Fairbanks and goes about 440 miles to Deadhorse...you are abour 300 miles NORTH of the arctic circle - you stand on the shore of the Arctic Ocean. Some people take off their shoes and stand in it. One guy said it was about 50 F (result of 24 hours of sunlight for two months straight) - another was there in summer - it was right about freezing and the ocean was ice and slush - I would still stand in about 1 foot deep for a picture...although if you slipped, you might die - hypothermia happens FAST...so does frostbite - had it once - VERY painful. Chris Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would this put us above the arctic circle?? On 12/6/05, Christopher McCann wrote: A few years ago, my dad's cousin and her husband drove the Dalton Highway to Deadhorse, Alaska...some 4,000+ miles from Kansas City in a camper. You can drive within 3 miles of the Arctic Ocean and from there a bus takes you to the Ocean...Prudhoe Bay to be exact. Usually about freezing even in the summer. The Dalton Highway is mostly gravel, hard on cars (particularly windshields and headlights), etc. Tons of articles on line and picture galleries. A sample: http://gorp.away.com/gorp/activity/byway/ak_dalton.htm Anyone interested in an Arctic-Q? Not really able to do this any time soon - maybe this coming summer...or the following summer...but I have been thinking about it and thought I would throw it out for thoughts, reactions, ideas, etc. Could be very interesting as a multi-car caravan...we could carry lots of tools and spare parts between several vehicles in addition to all the other stuff - spare tires, food, water, clothes for the arctic blasts that can come at any time, etc. Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Try Yahoo! Personals ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Richard 1987 300D 178k with miles and miles to go!!! Midwest City, Oklahoma ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/05/2005 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/05/2005
[MBZ] Subjective opinions, please
Anyone who's ever driven a 5 speed 300E please feel free to respond. Alternatively, if anyone's driven a 5 speed 2.3-16 valve or a 2.6 5 speed, your comments would be appreciated as well. I'm trying to get a handle on how the car feels, what the shift throws are like, how tight the linkage is, the general characteristics of the ride, handling, etc. Karen and I have pretty much decided that we're going to keep our '88 300E and either have it repaired or sell it to a local Mercedes enthusiast. If the car isn't repaired, we of course have to go out and buy one, and there are two that I have my eye on and will see on Monday. Have a local place lined up for a PPI as well (Benzin) so that's covered. But, and here's where you all come in, I do want a fun car once I get a job (interview on Monday) and I don't know in my heart of hearts if a 5 speed 300E will be fun enough or not. Maybe I'm just thinking of them now because our 300E was wrecked, and I'm feeling remorse, and have the gotta get another one virus. Just to get back to where we were before, you know? Having said that, I do like the idea of a Sportline suspension (or better?) modification, maybe larger wheels/tires (not sure about that, I do like the way the stock 300E feels, but I'm sure I'd like a bit firmer, more responsive ride as long as it isn't too rough), and I have missed not having a stick shift since I sold my '78 308gt4. So, what say you? For a benchmark, I like the feel of a '94 Miata R, my '78 Ferrari was nice, but I might want other people to ride in the new fun car as well, and 'Mario' was a bit too firm for some of them. Wouldn't bother me too much, though if it was on the firm side. I guess I'm just afraid it's going to feel too big to feel sporty, so any and all feedback, suggestions encouraged. Thanks very much to you all, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/05/2005