Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

No definitely not stainless!

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> On Nov 25, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> I think my brother had put stainless on it?
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2017 9:02 AM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes"  
>> wrote:
>> I'm trying to remember but I don't think I ever did any exhaust work on that 
>> car which I think makes it the only car I ever owned that didn't need 
>> exhaust work...
>> Curt
>> 
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>>   On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Dimitri via 
>> Mercedes wrote:   Wow! 22 years of patch jobs, now 
>> that’s impressive! Might take you up on the resonator and muffler offer! The 
>> last exhaust I repaired was on the 240 that Curt gave me (formerly 
>> Dwight’s)-the one with the head issue. I repaired the muffler and resonator 
>> with sheet metal as well as replacing a good amount of the pipes. Whole 
>> thing cost me $90 in parts from flaps that I pieced together. It fit better 
>> than an OE exhaust as I pretty much tailored it to car!
>> 
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>> > On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > Nice work!  (as always)  I broke down and put new exhaust on both 240Ds.  
>> > From crockauto the price is not so bad  I patched the exhaust on the 
>> > 81 for 22 years.  the front pipe kept rotting away.  Methinks it was a 
>> > flaps replacement sometime, while the rest was original.  I have a good 
>> > muffler, and a good resonator in the shed.  If you ever need either, you 
>> > could weld them on.
>> >
>> >> Dimitri via Mercedes 
>> >> November 24, 2017 at 4:49 PM
>> >> So the entire exhaust with the exception of the front pipe fell off one 
>> >> of my 240Ds last November while driving locally. I pulled over, picked it 
>> >> off the road and ratchet strapped it to the roof rack. I drove the car 
>> >> sans exhaust for the remainder of the winter- neighbors loved me! As I 
>> >> was busy with a massive rental property renovation, I had no time until 
>> >> now to deal with it. Basically the pipe rotted at the flange where the 
>> >> front pipe and remainder of exhaust attach.
>> >> I bought a section pipe slightly wider than the exhaust, cut off rotted 
>> >> flange and welded it on, effectively creating a new flange. I then bought 
>> >> a new front pipe from Rockauto for a whopping $20. So for a grand total 
>> >> of $35 including shipping, new “flange”, and new clamp, I effected a 
>> >> permanent and high quality repair!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I think my brother had put stainless on it?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Nov 25, 2017 9:02 AM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I'm trying to remember but I don't think I ever did any exhaust work on
> that car which I think makes it the only car I ever owned that didn't need
> exhaust work...
> Curt
>
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>   On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Wow! 22 years of patch jobs, now that’s
> impressive! Might take you up on the resonator and muffler offer! The last
> exhaust I repaired was on the 240 that Curt gave me (formerly Dwight’s)-the
> one with the head issue. I repaired the muffler and resonator with sheet
> metal as well as replacing a good amount of the pipes. Whole thing cost me
> $90 in parts from flaps that I pieced together. It fit better than an OE
> exhaust as I pretty much tailored it to car!
>
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> > On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Nice work!  (as always)  I broke down and put new exhaust on both
> 240Ds.  From crockauto the price is not so bad  I patched the exhaust
> on the 81 for 22 years.  the front pipe kept rotting away.  Methinks it was
> a flaps replacement sometime, while the rest was original.  I have a good
> muffler, and a good resonator in the shed.  If you ever need either, you
> could weld them on.
> >
> >> Dimitri via Mercedes 
> >> November 24, 2017 at 4:49 PM
> >> So the entire exhaust with the exception of the front pipe fell off one
> of my 240Ds last November while driving locally. I pulled over, picked it
> off the road and ratchet strapped it to the roof rack. I drove the car sans
> exhaust for the remainder of the winter- neighbors loved me! As I was busy
> with a massive rental property renovation, I had no time until now to deal
> with it. Basically the pipe rotted at the flange where the front pipe and
> remainder of exhaust attach.
> >> I bought a section pipe slightly wider than the exhaust, cut off rotted
> flange and welded it on, effectively creating a new flange. I then bought a
> new front pipe from Rockauto for a whopping $20. So for a grand total of
> $35 including shipping, new “flange”, and new clamp, I effected a permanent
> and high quality repair!
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I'm trying to remember but I don't think I ever did any exhaust work on that 
car which I think makes it the only car I ever owned that didn't need exhaust 
work...
Curt

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  On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes 
wrote:   Wow! 22 years of patch jobs, now that’s impressive! Might take you up 
on the resonator and muffler offer! The last exhaust I repaired was on the 240 
that Curt gave me (formerly Dwight’s)-the one with the head issue. I repaired 
the muffler and resonator with sheet metal as well as replacing a good amount 
of the pipes. Whole thing cost me $90 in parts from flaps that I pieced 
together. It fit better than an OE exhaust as I pretty much tailored it to car!

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> On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nice work!  (as always)  I broke down and put new exhaust on both 240Ds.  
> From crockauto the price is not so bad  I patched the exhaust on the 81 
> for 22 years.  the front pipe kept rotting away.  Methinks it was a flaps 
> replacement sometime, while the rest was original.  I have a good muffler, 
> and a good resonator in the shed.  If you ever need either, you could weld 
> them on.
> 
>> Dimitri via Mercedes 
>> November 24, 2017 at 4:49 PM
>> So the entire exhaust with the exception of the front pipe fell off one of 
>> my 240Ds last November while driving locally. I pulled over, picked it off 
>> the road and ratchet strapped it to the roof rack. I drove the car sans 
>> exhaust for the remainder of the winter- neighbors loved me! As I was busy 
>> with a massive rental property renovation, I had no time until now to deal 
>> with it. Basically the pipe rotted at the flange where the front pipe and 
>> remainder of exhaust attach.
>> I bought a section pipe slightly wider than the exhaust, cut off rotted 
>> flange and welded it on, effectively creating a new flange. I then bought a 
>> new front pipe from Rockauto for a whopping $20. So for a grand total of $35 
>> including shipping, new “flange”, and new clamp, I effected a permanent and 
>> high quality repair!
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

You have to dissect the rotted pipe stub out of the muffler, insert a new pipe 
into the hole  in the side of the muffler and weld the new pipe to the sheet 
metal on the muffler. Since the steel is thicker on the pipe, you have to 
direct the mig nozzle more towards the pipe and weave the puddle into the sheet 
metal carefully so as to not burn through the muffler but at the same time get 
good penetration on the pipe. 

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> On Nov 24, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I dont' thing there is 2 " of pipe off the muffler.  I think the only thing 
> that MIGHT work is to have a connector section that is smaller and fits up 
> inside the muffler.  At the end of the day it probably needs a new muffler.  
> Which it being a 1 year only sort of deal is $300+ iirc.
> 
> 
>> On 11/24/2017 6:11 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>> Make gussets.  weld to muffler and pipe over your welds. (or griind off the 
>> welds for the gussets, and reweld with the gussets.)  Probably need 4 
>> gussets.
>> 
>> If there is at least 2" of pipe in front  of the muffler, grind off the 
>> welds, and use the tin can hose clamp bandaid.   It is cracking from 
>> vibration.  the bandaid releives the stress and vibration.  I have run those 
>> on 200Ds for 40 + years.  You need to replace the can every 2-7 years.  Or 
>> you can use 22-26 ga flat steel.  One hose clamp on the back, one on the 
>> front.
>> 
>> Or,  you can give the POS to Dimitri.  He will fix it!
>>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>> November 24, 2017 at 6:01 PM
>>> I need to do something about the exhaust on my 95 e300. It started breaking 
>>> off close to where the pipe runs into the rear muffler. I welded it up, 
>>> rather poorly probably as it was my first time. It lasted a couple of weeks 
>>> then started breaking loose again. I welded it some more but it probably 
>>> won’t last. I need to pull it off again and see about getting some sort or 
>>> connector that will fit over or in the pipe and weld that.
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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I dont' thing there is 2 " of pipe off the muffler.  I think the only 
thing that MIGHT work is to have a connector section that is smaller and 
fits up inside the muffler.  At the end of the day it probably needs a 
new muffler.  Which it being a 1 year only sort of deal is $300+ iirc.



On 11/24/2017 6:11 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Make gussets.  weld to muffler and pipe over your welds. (or griind 
off the welds for the gussets, and reweld with the gussets.)  Probably 
need 4 gussets.


If there is at least 2" of pipe in front  of the muffler, grind off 
the welds, and use the tin can hose clamp bandaid.   It is cracking 
from vibration.  the bandaid releives the stress and vibration.  I 
have run those on 200Ds for 40 + years.  You need to replace the can 
every 2-7 years.  Or you can use 22-26 ga flat steel.  One hose clamp 
on the back, one on the front.


Or,  you can give the POS to Dimitri.  He will fix it!

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
November 24, 2017 at 6:01 PM
I need to do something about the exhaust on my 95 e300. It started 
breaking off close to where the pipe runs into the rear muffler. I 
welded it up, rather poorly probably as it was my first time. It 
lasted a couple of weeks then started breaking loose again. I welded 
it some more but it probably won’t last. I need to pull it off again 
and see about getting some sort or connector that will fit over or in 
the pipe and weld that.


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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Make gussets.  weld to muffler and pipe over your welds. (or griind off 
the welds for the gussets, and reweld with the gussets.)  Probably need 
4 gussets.


If there is at least 2" of pipe in front  of the muffler, grind off the 
welds, and use the tin can hose clamp bandaid.   It is cracking from 
vibration.  the bandaid releives the stress and vibration.  I have run 
those on 200Ds for 40 + years.  You need to replace the can every 2-7 
years.  Or you can use 22-26 ga flat steel.  One hose clamp on the back, 
one on the front.


Or,  you can give the POS to Dimitri.  He will fix it!

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
November 24, 2017 at 6:01 PM
I need to do something about the exhaust on my 95 e300. It started 
breaking off close to where the pipe runs into the rear muffler. I 
welded it up, rather poorly probably as it was my first time. It 
lasted a couple of weeks then started breaking loose again. I welded 
it some more but it probably won’t last. I need to pull it off again 
and see about getting some sort or connector that will fit over or in 
the pipe and weld that.


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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Wow! 22 years of patch jobs, now that’s impressive! Might take you up on the 
resonator and muffler offer! The last exhaust I repaired was on the 240 that 
Curt gave me (formerly Dwight’s)-the one with the head issue. I repaired the 
muffler and resonator with sheet metal as well as replacing a good amount of 
the pipes. Whole thing cost me $90 in parts from flaps that I pieced together. 
It fit better than an OE exhaust as I pretty much tailored it to car!

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> On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nice work!  (as always)  I broke down and put new exhaust on both 240Ds.   
> From crockauto the price is not so bad  I patched the exhaust on the 81 
> for 22 years.  the front pipe kept rotting away.  Methinks it was a flaps 
> replacement sometime, while the rest was original.   I have a good muffler, 
> and a good resonator in the shed.  If you ever need either, you could weld 
> them on.
> 
>> Dimitri via Mercedes 
>> November 24, 2017 at 4:49 PM
>> So the entire exhaust with the exception of the front pipe fell off one of 
>> my 240Ds last November while driving locally. I pulled over, picked it off 
>> the road and ratchet strapped it to the roof rack. I drove the car sans 
>> exhaust for the remainder of the winter- neighbors loved me! As I was busy 
>> with a massive rental property renovation, I had no time until now to deal 
>> with it. Basically the pipe rotted at the flange where the front pipe and 
>> remainder of exhaust attach.
>> I bought a section pipe slightly wider than the exhaust, cut off rotted 
>> flange and welded it on, effectively creating a new flange. I then bought a 
>> new front pipe from Rockauto for a whopping $20. So for a grand total of $35 
>> including shipping, new “flange”, and new clamp, I effected a permanent and 
>> high quality repair!
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I need to do something about the exhaust on my 95 e300. It started breaking off 
close to where the pipe runs into the rear muffler. I welded it up, rather 
poorly probably as it was my first time. It lasted a couple of weeks then 
started breaking loose again. I welded it some more but it probably won’t last. 
I need to pull it off again and see about getting some sort or connector that 
will fit over or in the pipe and weld that. 

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> On Nov 24, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nice work!  (as always)  I broke down and put new exhaust on both 240Ds.   
> From crockauto the price is not so bad  I patched the exhaust on the 81 
> for 22 years.  the front pipe kept rotting away.  Methinks it was a flaps 
> replacement sometime, while the rest was original.   I have a good muffler, 
> and a good resonator in the shed.  If you ever need either, you could weld 
> them on.
> 
>> Dimitri via Mercedes 
>> November 24, 2017 at 4:49 PM
>> So the entire exhaust with the exception of the front pipe fell off one of 
>> my 240Ds last November while driving locally. I pulled over, picked it off 
>> the road and ratchet strapped it to the roof rack. I drove the car sans 
>> exhaust for the remainder of the winter- neighbors loved me! As I was busy 
>> with a massive rental property renovation, I had no time until now to deal 
>> with it. Basically the pipe rotted at the flange where the front pipe and 
>> remainder of exhaust attach.
>> I bought a section pipe slightly wider than the exhaust, cut off rotted 
>> flange and welded it on, effectively creating a new flange. I then bought a 
>> new front pipe from Rockauto for a whopping $20. So for a grand total of $35 
>> including shipping, new “flange”, and new clamp, I effected a permanent and 
>> high quality repair!
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Nice work!  (as always)  I broke down and put new exhaust on both 
240Ds.   From crockauto the price is not so bad  I patched the 
exhaust on the 81 for 22 years.  the front pipe kept rotting away.  
Methinks it was a flaps replacement sometime, while the rest was 
original.   I have a good muffler, and a good resonator in the shed.  If 
you ever need either, you could weld them on.



Dimitri via Mercedes 
November 24, 2017 at 4:49 PM
So the entire exhaust with the exception of the front pipe fell off 
one of my 240Ds last November while driving locally. I pulled over, 
picked it off the road and ratchet strapped it to the roof rack. I 
drove the car sans exhaust for the remainder of the winter- neighbors 
loved me! As I was busy with a massive rental property renovation, I 
had no time until now to deal with it. Basically the pipe rotted at 
the flange where the front pipe and remainder of exhaust attach.
I bought a section pipe slightly wider than the exhaust, cut off 
rotted flange and welded it on, effectively creating a new flange. I 
then bought a new front pipe from Rockauto for a whopping $20. So for 
a grand total of $35 including shipping, new “flange”, and new clamp, 
I effected a permanent and high quality repair!






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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

You are a wizard. Was this the southern princess?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Nov 24, 2017 5:49 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> So the entire exhaust with the exception of the front pipe fell off one of
> my 240Ds last November while driving locally. I pulled over, picked it off
> the road and ratchet strapped it to the roof rack. I drove the car sans
> exhaust for the remainder of the winter- neighbors loved me! As I was busy
> with a massive rental property renovation, I had no time until now to deal
> with it. Basically the pipe rotted at the flange where the front pipe and
> remainder of exhaust attach.
> I bought a section pipe slightly wider than the exhaust, cut off rotted
> flange and welded it on, effectively creating a new flange. I then bought a
> new front pipe from Rockauto for a whopping $20. So for a grand total of
> $35 including shipping, new “flange”, and new clamp, I effected a permanent
> and high quality repair!
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust

[WILTON via Mercedes]

ATTABOY!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Curly McLain via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:27 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 240D exhaust


The 240D got loud today.  Discovered the patch pipe just to the rear of 
the bend in the downpipe was cracking at the weld.   Further investigation 
led to a thumb sized hole on the inside.


Well, it needs a new pipe...Same as it did maybe 15 years ago.

I took two hose clamps and a piece of heavy flashing that I have been 
tempted to throw out several times, but saved for some reason.  Put the 
car up on ramps, crawled under, wrapped the flashing around, put the hose 
clamps on it and tightened up the clamps.


Diesel Muffler bandaid 101.  It will probably last for 5 years, then I 
will replace the flashing again.  That should be good until 2024.


123 Diesels are great, but I love the OM603 too!


Oh, By the way, 15 years ago, I didn't buy a new pipe.  That is when the 
patch pipe was welded in.



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[MBZ] 240D exhaust

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

The 240D got loud today.  Discovered the patch pipe just to the rear 
of the bend in the downpipe was cracking at the weld.   Further 
investigation led to a thumb sized hole on the inside.


Well, it needs a new pipe...Same as it did maybe 15 years ago.

I took two hose clamps and a piece of heavy flashing that I have been 
tempted to throw out several times, but saved for some reason.  Put 
the car up on ramps, crawled under, wrapped the flashing around, put 
the hose clamps on it and tightened up the clamps.


Diesel Muffler bandaid 101.  It will probably last for 5 years, then 
I will replace the flashing again.  That should be good until 2024.


123 Diesels are great, but I love the OM603 too!


Oh, By the way, 15 years ago, I didn't buy a new pipe.  That is when 
the patch pipe was welded in.



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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust continuing saga

[redghost]

I might could have done that with Gump, but there are three bolts with  
springs that sort of rust welded themselves together.  Had to sawzall  
the thing or your method would have resulted in a new manifold and  
possibly engine


clay

Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers




On Jul 9, 2011, at 8:53 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:


Its too late for this advice, but in the past I was able to break and
exhaust system free from the manifold by dropping it down off of all  
the
rubber hangers and  swinging it side to side a bit from the end at  
the back

of the car.  The torque on that length of pipe is huge.

Just don't go too crazy or you might break the exhaust manifold.   
But this
is unlikely since the weakest point should still be the joint  
between the

manifold and exhaust pipe.

Of course, soaking it with lots of penetrating oil first is necessary.

Jaime


On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Curt Raymond   
wrote:


So unbolting the '83 exhaust at the flange worked well, the 2 bolts  
broke
nicely and it all came out. However I still couldn't get the front  
pipe
detached from the rest and I ended up cutting the first couple  
inches of the
front exhaust pipe. A quick trip to FLAPS got me a 2" exhaust pipe  
adapter
which this morning I welded into place. My welding is definitely  
getting
better, I got only a couple little divots in it, none of which  
appears to go
all the way through. A quick spritz of grill paint should keep the  
weld from
rusting. I only expect this exhaust to be good for a couple three  
years

anyway...

Next step, getting the old rotten exhaust out from under the '78  
while
preserving 2 rubber donuts, I have 2 in my spares pile... I'll  
order 2 (4
really so I have spares) more from Rusty next week so I don't have  
to trust

the used ones.

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust continuing saga

[WILTON]

'Nother reminder of why I've become so distrustful of "help."  'Hard to find 
anybody interested in doing things RIGHT.  Too many want to do a half a$$ 
job, get  their money and run.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust continuing saga


Ja, I tried that maybe 10 years ago after we put the 2.4 in the 200D. THe 
muffler fell of and got lost, so I told #1 son to take it to the "lifetime 
guarantee" muffler shop because they would replace it for as long as he 
owned the car.  BIG mistake.  Now it has a too short, too fat muffler with 
tooo small an outlet that they made sit wrong in the space (angled up, not 
level).  Every time I see it I get mad that those bozos are almost as 
stupid as stealership parts changers.


I recommend changing it yourself if you physically can.



Oh man.  Each time I do an exhaust system, I say I'm never going to do it
again and I'd rather just pay someone.  But somehow, I just keep doing 
them.


Jaime


On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:


 Tried that, didn't work on either exhaust...

 On the trashed one I cut grooves in the pipe and peeled it like a 
banana.

 Then drove the remnant off with a screwdriver and BFH. Oh what fun!

 -Curt

 Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 11:53:24 -0400
 From: Jaime Kopchinski 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust continuing saga
 Message-ID:

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 Its too late for this advice, but in the past I was able to break and
 exhaust system free from the manifold by dropping it down off of all 
the
 rubber hangers and  swinging it side to side a bit from the end at the 
back

 of the car.  The torque on that length of pipe is huge.

 Just don't go too crazy or you might break the exhaust manifold.  But 
this
 is unlikely since the weakest point should still be the joint between 
the

 manifold and exhaust pipe.

 Of course, soaking it with lots of penetrating oil first is necessary.

 Jaime


 On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Curt Raymond 
 wrote:

 > So unbolting the '83 exhaust at the flange worked well, the 2 bolts 
broke
 > nicely and it all came out. However I still couldn't get the front 
pipe
 > detached from the rest and I ended up cutting the first couple inches 
of

 the
 > front exhaust pipe. A quick trip to FLAPS got me a 2" exhaust pipe
 adapter
 > which this morning I welded into place. My welding is definitely 
getting
 > better, I got only a couple little divots in it, none of which 
appears to

 go
 > all the way through. A quick spritz of grill paint should keep the 
weld

 from
 > rusting. I only expect this exhaust to be good for a couple three 
years

 > anyway...
 >
 > Next step, getting the old rotten exhaust out from under the '78 
while
 > preserving 2 rubber donuts, I have 2 in my spares pile... I'll order 
2 (4

 > really so I have spares) more from Rusty next week so I don't have to
 trust
 > the used ones.
 >
 > -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust continuing saga

[Dieselhead]

Ja, I tried that maybe 10 years ago after we put the 2.4 in the 200D. 
THe muffler fell of and got lost, so I told #1 son to take it to the 
"lifetime guarantee" muffler shop because they would replace it for 
as long as he owned the car.  BIG mistake.  Now it has a too short, 
too fat muffler with tooo small an outlet that they made sit wrong in 
the space (angled up, not level).  Every time I see it I get mad that 
those bozos are almost as stupid as stealership parts changers.


I recommend changing it yourself if you physically can.



Oh man.  Each time I do an exhaust system, I say I'm never going to do it
again and I'd rather just pay someone.  But somehow, I just keep doing them.

Jaime


On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:


 Tried that, didn't work on either exhaust...

 On the trashed one I cut grooves in the pipe and peeled it like a banana.
 Then drove the remnant off with a screwdriver and BFH. Oh what fun!

 -Curt

 Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 11:53:24 -0400
 From: Jaime Kopchinski 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust continuing saga
 Message-ID:

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 Its too late for this advice, but in the past I was able to break and
 exhaust system free from the manifold by dropping it down off of all the
 rubber hangers and  swinging it side to side a bit from the end at the back
 of the car.  The torque on that length of pipe is huge.

 Just don't go too crazy or you might break the exhaust manifold.  But this
 is unlikely since the weakest point should still be the joint between the
 manifold and exhaust pipe.

 Of course, soaking it with lots of penetrating oil first is necessary.

 Jaime


 On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Curt Raymond 
 wrote:

 > So unbolting the '83 exhaust at the flange worked well, the 2 bolts broke
 > nicely and it all came out. However I still couldn't get the front pipe
 > detached from the rest and I ended up cutting the first couple inches of
 the
 > front exhaust pipe. A quick trip to FLAPS got me a 2" exhaust pipe
 adapter
 > which this morning I welded into place. My welding is definitely getting
 > better, I got only a couple little divots in it, none of which appears to
 go
 > all the way through. A quick spritz of grill paint should keep the weld
 from
 > rusting. I only expect this exhaust to be good for a couple three years
 > anyway...
 >
 > Next step, getting the old rotten exhaust out from under the '78 while
 > preserving 2 rubber donuts, I have 2 in my spares pile... I'll order 2 (4
 > really so I have spares) more from Rusty next week so I don't have to
 trust
 > the used ones.
 >
 > -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust continuing saga

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Oh man.  Each time I do an exhaust system, I say I'm never going to do it
again and I'd rather just pay someone.  But somehow, I just keep doing them.

Jaime


On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Tried that, didn't work on either exhaust...
>
> On the trashed one I cut grooves in the pipe and peeled it like a banana.
> Then drove the remnant off with a screwdriver and BFH. Oh what fun!
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 11:53:24 -0400
> From: Jaime Kopchinski 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust continuing saga
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Its too late for this advice, but in the past I was able to break and
> exhaust system free from the manifold by dropping it down off of all the
> rubber hangers and  swinging it side to side a bit from the end at the back
> of the car.  The torque on that length of pipe is huge.
>
> Just don't go too crazy or you might break the exhaust manifold.  But this
> is unlikely since the weakest point should still be the joint between the
> manifold and exhaust pipe.
>
> Of course, soaking it with lots of penetrating oil first is necessary.
>
> Jaime
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Curt Raymond 
> wrote:
>
> > So unbolting the '83 exhaust at the flange worked well, the 2 bolts broke
> > nicely and it all came out. However I still couldn't get the front pipe
> > detached from the rest and I ended up cutting the first couple inches of
> the
> > front exhaust pipe. A quick trip to FLAPS got me a 2" exhaust pipe
> adapter
> > which this morning I welded into place. My welding is definitely getting
> > better, I got only a couple little divots in it, none of which appears to
> go
> > all the way through. A quick spritz of grill paint should keep the weld
> from
> > rusting. I only expect this exhaust to be good for a couple three years
> > anyway...
> >
> > Next step, getting the old rotten exhaust out from under the '78 while
> > preserving 2 rubber donuts, I have 2 in my spares pile... I'll order 2 (4
> > really so I have spares) more from Rusty next week so I don't have to
> trust
> > the used ones.
> >
> > -Curt
>
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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust continuing saga

[Curt Raymond]

Tried that, didn't work on either exhaust...

On the trashed one I cut grooves in the pipe and peeled it like a banana. Then 
drove the remnant off with a screwdriver and BFH. Oh what fun!

-Curt

Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 11:53:24 -0400
From: Jaime Kopchinski 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust continuing saga
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Its too late for this advice, but in the past I was able to break and
exhaust system free from the manifold by dropping it down off of all the
rubber hangers and  swinging it side to side a bit from the end at the back
of the car.  The torque on that length of pipe is huge.

Just don't go too crazy or you might break the exhaust manifold.  But this
is unlikely since the weakest point should still be the joint between the
manifold and exhaust pipe.

Of course, soaking it with lots of penetrating oil first is necessary.

Jaime


On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> So unbolting the '83 exhaust at the flange worked well, the 2 bolts broke
> nicely and it all came out. However I still couldn't get the front pipe
> detached from the rest and I ended up cutting the first couple inches of the
> front exhaust pipe. A quick trip to FLAPS got me a 2" exhaust pipe adapter
> which this morning I welded into place. My welding is definitely getting
> better, I got only a couple little divots in it, none of which appears to go
> all the way through. A quick spritz of grill paint should keep the weld from
> rusting. I only expect this exhaust to be good for a couple three years
> anyway...
>
> Next step, getting the old rotten exhaust out from under the '78 while
> preserving 2 rubber donuts, I have 2 in my spares pile... I'll order 2 (4
> really so I have spares) more from Rusty next week so I don't have to trust
> the used ones.
>
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust continuing saga

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Its too late for this advice, but in the past I was able to break and
exhaust system free from the manifold by dropping it down off of all the
rubber hangers and  swinging it side to side a bit from the end at the back
of the car.  The torque on that length of pipe is huge.

Just don't go too crazy or you might break the exhaust manifold.  But this
is unlikely since the weakest point should still be the joint between the
manifold and exhaust pipe.

Of course, soaking it with lots of penetrating oil first is necessary.

Jaime


On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> So unbolting the '83 exhaust at the flange worked well, the 2 bolts broke
> nicely and it all came out. However I still couldn't get the front pipe
> detached from the rest and I ended up cutting the first couple inches of the
> front exhaust pipe. A quick trip to FLAPS got me a 2" exhaust pipe adapter
> which this morning I welded into place. My welding is definitely getting
> better, I got only a couple little divots in it, none of which appears to go
> all the way through. A quick spritz of grill paint should keep the weld from
> rusting. I only expect this exhaust to be good for a couple three years
> anyway...
>
> Next step, getting the old rotten exhaust out from under the '78 while
> preserving 2 rubber donuts, I have 2 in my spares pile... I'll order 2 (4
> really so I have spares) more from Rusty next week so I don't have to trust
> the used ones.
>
> -Curt
>
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[MBZ] 240D exhaust continuing saga

[Curt Raymond]

So unbolting the '83 exhaust at the flange worked well, the 2 bolts broke 
nicely and it all came out. However I still couldn't get the front pipe 
detached from the rest and I ended up cutting the first couple inches of the 
front exhaust pipe. A quick trip to FLAPS got me a 2" exhaust pipe adapter 
which this morning I welded into place. My welding is definitely getting 
better, I got only a couple little divots in it, none of which appears to go 
all the way through. A quick spritz of grill paint should keep the weld from 
rusting. I only expect this exhaust to be good for a couple three years 
anyway...

Next step, getting the old rotten exhaust out from under the '78 while 
preserving 2 rubber donuts, I have 2 in my spares pile... I'll order 2 (4 
really so I have spares) more from Rusty next week so I don't have to trust the 
used ones.

-Curt

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[MBZ] 240D exhaust

[Wilton Strickland]

At about 3 years and 38 kmi, My '80 240D and I were cruising comfortably at
about 65 mph when, suddenly, the deafening roar of an un-muffled I-2400
blasted away my serenity.  'Took a coupla seconds to realize that the noise
was not from an R-4360 that it sounded like, but was from my lowly MB 2.4L.
The exhaust pipe had broken away from the muffler immediately at the front
end of the muffler.  Everything stayed in place - just broke apart.  MB
replaced exhaust sys from manifold back at no cost to me.

Wilton


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