Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE
I think I've solved it. Third day in a row with no sign of alternator problems. It's nice when they're easy! Max -Original Message- From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:24 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: RE: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE As described, the job was too easy. The VR seemed to be just fine. I noticed that the bail was off, it holds the plug into the back of the alternator, so I pulled the plug out and cleaned the contacts up with some Radio Shack contact cleaner. Reinstalled plug and its bail, checked voltage at the battery with engine running at idle (13.8 volts). This a.m. there were no issues with the light coming on, so I may have just had some dirty electrical contacts. Also checked the belt, tension was fine. I did not have time to T/S any of the noises, which seem to be mostly loose and rattling stuff, maybe this weekend I'll be able to take a look. Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE
As described, the job was too easy. The VR seemed to be just fine. I noticed that the bail was off, it holds the plug into the back of the alternator, so I pulled the plug out and cleaned the contacts up with some Radio Shack contact cleaner. Reinstalled plug and its bail, checked voltage at the battery with engine running at idle (13.8 volts). This a.m. there were no issues with the light coming on, so I may have just had some dirty electrical contacts. Also checked the belt, tension was fine. I did not have time to T/S any of the noises, which seem to be mostly loose and rattling stuff, maybe this weekend I'll be able to take a look. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE Having done this job on both Diesel and vergasser versions of the 124, I can verify that they are in the same relative position. That being said, I've also learned that when the brushes have been too short for awhile, the rings in the alternator are often black or burnt, or both. A little fine sandpaper cleaned up mine so the alternator works again. Hope this isn't a trend or epidemic, but my '92 300D 2.5 wouldn't start this morning - just figured out that the battery is dead. Don't know whether the 2 1/2 year old (84 month) battery is toast, or if the alternator isn't charging yet. This is the only alternaotr in my collection that doesn't have a new VR/brush pack yet. As it will be 20F in the AM, I hope charging the battery out of the son's parked 190D will cure the situation. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: Now that I look at what I wrote, I think I've only done that job on the 300E, so I can't swear to the alternator on the diesel being in the same place, but it probably is---besides the obviously different stuff like the fuel injection system, ignition system (or lack thereof), and turbo (ditto), most everything under the hood is in more or less the same place on the OM603 and M103 cars. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Thanks Alex, uncharted territory for me and an easy approach to the alternator definitely helps. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Thanks Curt, I'm going to check the belt and then probably pull the VR package and check the brushes. The latter is a trivial job on a 124 if you can raise it up a foot or so with ramps or stands. Just slide under the passenger side of the engine on your back with your head towards the rear wheels, take off the belly panels (if you are lucky enough to have them), and the back of the alternator is staring you in the face---two Phillips screws and the VR is out. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: I did not have time to T/S any of the noises, which seem to be mostly loose and rattling stuff, maybe this weekend I'll be able to take a look. Belt tensioner. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE
Yes, and I even have the MB tool and new bits to install. I've had them on the shelf for about two years now, need to just make some time and get 'er done! However, there's also something loose that sounds like muffler or heat shield, really obnoxious at low RPM / idle speeds, and probably some other contributors around the car. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:26 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: I did not have time to T/S any of the noises, which seem to be mostly loose and rattling stuff, maybe this weekend I'll be able to take a look. Belt tensioner. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE
All, In the last few weeks, on my '87 300TD with 317k miles, my alternator light has started to glow faintly at times, usually right after starting. Yesterday it even briefly came on twice while I was driving to work. Is this most likely the voltage regulator? Is the proper test to measure voltage at the battery, pass is 13.5 volts or greater, but less than 14.5 volts? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 317k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE
That would be my guess --- On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: All, In the last few weeks, on my '87 300TD with 317k miles, my alternator light has started to glow faintly at times, usually right after starting. Yesterday it even briefly came on twice while I was driving to work. Is this most likely the voltage regulator? Is the proper test to measure voltage at the battery, pass is 13.5 volts or greater, but less than 14.5 volts? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 317k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE
Loose belt? On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:05 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: That would be my guess --- On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: All, In the last few weeks, on my '87 300TD with 317k miles, my alternator light has started to glow faintly at times, usually right after starting. Yesterday it even briefly came on twice while I was driving to work. Is this most likely the voltage regulator? Is the proper test to measure voltage at the battery, pass is 13.5 volts or greater, but less than 14.5 volts? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 317k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE
Is this most likely the voltage regulator? Sounds suspiciously like short brushes to me. Same fix: new regulator/brush pack. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE
Maybe... In my experience it means the alternator is toast. I went through that many many times with my 240D before getting a good McParts one. Learn from my mistakes, don't buy a McParts alternator... Voltage regulator is worth a shot though. -Curt Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:56:50 -0500 From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil Subject: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 1370e90cffd2ac4b8cb65267ba10c4b801db9...@naeachrlez02v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii All, In the last few weeks, on my '87 300TD with 317k miles, my alternator light has started to glow faintly at times, usually right after starting. Yesterday it even briefly came on twice while I was driving to work. Is this most likely the voltage regulator? Is the proper test to measure voltage at the battery, pass is 13.5 volts or greater, but less than 14.5 volts? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 317k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE
Thanks Don. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:06 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE That would be my guess --- On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: All, In the last few weeks, on my '87 300TD with 317k miles, my alternator light has started to glow faintly at times, usually right after starting. Yesterday it even briefly came on twice while I was driving to work. Is this most likely the voltage regulator? Is the proper test to measure voltage at the battery, pass is 13.5 volts or greater, but less than 14.5 volts? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 317k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE
Serpentine belt, fairly new, I'll check to make sure the tensioner still tensions. Thanks for the suggestion, would be nice if it were that simple. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE Loose belt? On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:05 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: That would be my guess --- On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: All, In the last few weeks, on my '87 300TD with 317k miles, my alternator light has started to glow faintly at times, usually right after starting. Yesterday it even briefly came on twice while I was driving to work. Is this most likely the voltage regulator? Is the proper test to measure voltage at the battery, pass is 13.5 volts or greater, but less than 14.5 volts? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 317k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE
Thanks Jim. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:38 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE Is this most likely the voltage regulator? Sounds suspiciously like short brushes to me. Same fix: new regulator/brush pack. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE
I was told that replacing an alternator in a car with a weak battery can cause failure of the new alternator. Is this true? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Serpentine belt, fairly new, I'll check to make sure the tensioner still tensions. Thanks for the suggestion, would be nice if it were that simple. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE Loose belt? On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:05 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: That would be my guess --- On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: All, In the last few weeks, on my '87 300TD with 317k miles, my alternator light has started to glow faintly at times, usually right after starting. Yesterday it even briefly came on twice while I was driving to work. Is this most likely the voltage regulator? Is the proper test to measure voltage at the battery, pass is 13.5 volts or greater, but less than 14.5 volts? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 317k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE
Thanks Curt, I'm going to check the belt and then probably pull the VR package and check the brushes. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:27 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE Maybe... In my experience it means the alternator is toast. I went through that many many times with my 240D before getting a good McParts one. Learn from my mistakes, don't buy a McParts alternator... Voltage regulator is worth a shot though. -Curt Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:56:50 -0500 From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil Subject: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 1370e90cffd2ac4b8cb65267ba10c4b801db9...@naeachrlez02v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii All, In the last few weeks, on my '87 300TD with 317k miles, my alternator light has started to glow faintly at times, usually right after starting. Yesterday it even briefly came on twice while I was driving to work. Is this most likely the voltage regulator? Is the proper test to measure voltage at the battery, pass is 13.5 volts or greater, but less than 14.5 volts? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 317k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE
Dimitri, I hope I haven't confused you, I have two threads going, one for my Wife's Infiniti which just got a new battery but still has hard-to-start condition plus O2 sensor codes, second thread is for '87 300TD with alternator light woes and many minor irritating noises but no new battery. One of the symphony of noises is the belt tensionser, maybe I'll find out that another is the alternator's death knell? Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dimitri Seretakis Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:56 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE I was told that replacing an alternator in a car with a weak battery can cause failure of the new alternator. Is this true? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Serpentine belt, fairly new, I'll check to make sure the tensioner still tensions. Thanks for the suggestion, would be nice if it were that simple. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE Loose belt? On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:05 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: That would be my guess --- On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: All, In the last few weeks, on my '87 300TD with 317k miles, my alternator light has started to glow faintly at times, usually right after starting. Yesterday it even briefly came on twice while I was driving to work. Is this most likely the voltage regulator? Is the proper test to measure voltage at the battery, pass is 13.5 volts or greater, but less than 14.5 volts? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 317k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No confusion. Your thread just triggered curiosity on my part. I have a car - 220D which I've been slowly restoring which has a healthy appetite for alternators. Not putting a new alternator in a car with a weak battery was just one of the tips I received at one point in time. Sent from my iPhoneh On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Dimitri, I hope I haven't confused you, I have two threads going, one for my Wife's Infiniti which just got a new battery but still has hard-to-start condition plus O2 sensor codes, second thread is for '87 300TD with alternator light woes and many minor irritating noises but no new battery. One of the symphony of noises is the belt tensionser, maybe I'll find out that another is the alternator's death knell? Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dimitri Seretakis Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:56 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE I was told that replacing an alternator in a car with a weak battery can cause failure of the new alternator. Is this true? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Serpentine belt, fairly new, I'll check to make sure the tensioner still tensions. Thanks for the suggestion, would be nice if it were that simple. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE Loose belt? On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:05 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: That would be my guess --- On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: All, In the last few weeks, on my '87 300TD with 317k miles, my alternator light has started to glow faintly at times, usually right after starting. Yesterday it even briefly came on twice while I was driving to work. Is this most likely the voltage regulator? Is the proper test to measure voltage at the battery, pass is 13.5 volts or greater, but less than 14.5 volts? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 317k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It might be. My 240D went through many (4 or 5) alternators. Then I replaced the battery and it hasn't had an alternator for 4 or 5 years... -Curt Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:56:17 -0800 (PST) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 311288.38695...@web113210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was told that replacing an alternator in a car with a weak battery can cause failure of the new alternator. Is this true? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Serpentine belt, fairly new, I'll check to make sure the tensioner still tensions. Thanks for the suggestion, would be nice if it were that simple. Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Thanks Curt, I'm going to check the belt and then probably pull the VR package and check the brushes. The latter is a trivial job on a 124 if you can raise it up a foot or so with ramps or stands. Just slide under the passenger side of the engine on your back with your head towards the rear wheels, take off the belly panels (if you are lucky enough to have them), and the back of the alternator is staring you in the face---two Phillips screws and the VR is out. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks Alex, uncharted territory for me and an easy approach to the alternator definitely helps. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Thanks Curt, I'm going to check the belt and then probably pull the VR package and check the brushes. The latter is a trivial job on a 124 if you can raise it up a foot or so with ramps or stands. Just slide under the passenger side of the engine on your back with your head towards the rear wheels, take off the belly panels (if you are lucky enough to have them), and the back of the alternator is staring you in the face---two Phillips screws and the VR is out. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Now that I look at what I wrote, I think I've only done that job on the 300E, so I can't swear to the alternator on the diesel being in the same place, but it probably is---besides the obviously different stuff like the fuel injection system, ignition system (or lack thereof), and turbo (ditto), most everything under the hood is in more or less the same place on the OM603 and M103 cars. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Thanks Alex, uncharted territory for me and an easy approach to the alternator definitely helps. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Thanks Curt, I'm going to check the belt and then probably pull the VR package and check the brushes. The latter is a trivial job on a 124 if you can raise it up a foot or so with ramps or stands. Just slide under the passenger side of the engine on your back with your head towards the rear wheels, take off the belly panels (if you are lucky enough to have them), and the back of the alternator is staring you in the face---two Phillips screws and the VR is out. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm pretty sure you are correct. I had to R/R the AC compressor two summers ago, and I remember that the alternator was on the opposite side down low. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 2:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE Now that I look at what I wrote, I think I've only done that job on the 300E, so I can't swear to the alternator on the diesel being in the same place, but it probably is---besides the obviously different stuff like the fuel injection system, ignition system (or lack thereof), and turbo (ditto), most everything under the hood is in more or less the same place on the OM603 and M103 cars. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Thanks Alex, uncharted territory for me and an easy approach to the alternator definitely helps. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Thanks Curt, I'm going to check the belt and then probably pull the VR package and check the brushes. The latter is a trivial job on a 124 if you can raise it up a foot or so with ramps or stands. Just slide under the passenger side of the engine on your back with your head towards the rear wheels, take off the belly panels (if you are lucky enough to have them), and the back of the alternator is staring you in the face---two Phillips screws and the VR is out. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Having done this job on both Diesel and vergasser versions of the 124, I can verify that they are in the same relative position. That being said, I've also learned that when the brushes have been too short for awhile, the rings in the alternator are often black or burnt, or both. A little fine sandpaper cleaned up mine so the alternator works again. Hope this isn't a trend or epidemic, but my '92 300D 2.5 wouldn't start this morning - just figured out that the battery is dead. Don't know whether the 2 1/2 year old (84 month) battery is toast, or if the alternator isn't charging yet. This is the only alternaotr in my collection that doesn't have a new VR/brush pack yet. As it will be 20F in the AM, I hope charging the battery out of the son's parked 190D will cure the situation. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: Now that I look at what I wrote, I think I've only done that job on the 300E, so I can't swear to the alternator on the diesel being in the same place, but it probably is---besides the obviously different stuff like the fuel injection system, ignition system (or lack thereof), and turbo (ditto), most everything under the hood is in more or less the same place on the OM603 and M103 cars. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Thanks Alex, uncharted territory for me and an easy approach to the alternator definitely helps. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Thanks Curt, I'm going to check the belt and then probably pull the VR package and check the brushes. The latter is a trivial job on a 124 if you can raise it up a foot or so with ramps or stands. Just slide under the passenger side of the engine on your back with your head towards the rear wheels, take off the belly panels (if you are lucky enough to have them), and the back of the alternator is staring you in the face---two Phillips screws and the VR is out. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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where are you sourcing the alternators? Gump killed one. I had a dead alt, and just took it to the rebuilder. Cost more than getting one from Rusty, but it came back better than new. clay On Dec 8, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: No confusion. Your thread just triggered curiosity on my part. I have a car - 220D which I've been slowly restoring which has a healthy appetite for alternators. Not putting a new alternator in a car with a weak battery was just one of the tips I received at one point in time. Sent from my iPhoneh On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN- ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Dimitri, I hope I haven't confused you, I have two threads going, one for my Wife's Infiniti which just got a new battery but still has hard-to- start condition plus O2 sensor codes, second thread is for '87 300TD with alternator light woes and many minor irritating noises but no new battery. One of the symphony of noises is the belt tensionser, maybe I'll find out that another is the alternator's death knell? Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dimitri Seretakis Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:56 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE I was told that replacing an alternator in a car with a weak battery can cause failure of the new alternator. Is this true? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN- ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Serpentine belt, fairly new, I'll check to make sure the tensioner still tensions. Thanks for the suggestion, would be nice if it were that simple. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE Loose belt? On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:05 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: That would be my guess --- On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: All, In the last few weeks, on my '87 300TD with 317k miles, my alternator light has started to glow faintly at times, usually right after starting. Yesterday it even briefly came on twice while I was driving to work. Is this most likely the voltage regulator? Is the proper test to measure voltage at the battery, pass is 13.5 volts or greater, but less than 14.5 volts? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 317k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
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I was told that replacing an alternator in a car with a weak battery can cause failure of the new alternator. Is this true? If the battery has a short inside, yes it could happen. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE
This was some years ago. The alternators came from Rusty (Bosch reman) but honestly at this point I think that the car must have some electrical gremlin or something. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2009, at 9:38 PM, Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: where are you sourcing the alternators? Gump killed one. I had a dead alt, and just took it to the rebuilder. Cost more than getting one from Rusty, but it came back better than new. clay On Dec 8, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: No confusion. Your thread just triggered curiosity on my part. I have a car - 220D which I've been slowly restoring which has a healthy appetite for alternators. Not putting a new alternator in a car with a weak battery was just one of the tips I received at one point in time. Sent from my iPhoneh On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Dimitri, I hope I haven't confused you, I have two threads going, one for my Wife's Infiniti which just got a new battery but still has hard-to-start condition plus O2 sensor codes, second thread is for '87 300TD with alternator light woes and many minor irritating noises but no new battery. One of the symphony of noises is the belt tensionser, maybe I'll find out that another is the alternator's death knell? Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dimitri Seretakis Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:56 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE I was told that replacing an alternator in a car with a weak battery can cause failure of the new alternator. Is this true? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Serpentine belt, fairly new, I'll check to make sure the tensioner still tensions. Thanks for the suggestion, would be nice if it were that simple. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE Loose belt? On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:05 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: That would be my guess --- On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: All, In the last few weeks, on my '87 300TD with 317k miles, my alternator light has started to glow faintly at times, usually right after starting. Yesterday it even briefly came on twice while I was driving to work. Is this most likely the voltage regulator? Is the proper test to measure voltage at the battery, pass is 13.5 volts or greater, but less than 14.5 volts? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 317k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe
