Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
People don't need to eat meat to be strong. My son has been a vegan for a decade and can probably bench press his Miata, I on the other hand, eat everything and am quite the opposite in terms of strength. On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: > :-) > > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of Mitch Haley > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 5:44 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit > > Greg Fiorentino wrote: > > Hey, there are a lot of people out there who don't want to kill, but are > > happy to pay someone else to kill for them. > > Hey, it makes jobs for butchers. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
:-) -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 5:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit Greg Fiorentino wrote: > Hey, there are a lot of people out there who don't want to kill, but are > happy to pay someone else to kill for them. Hey, it makes jobs for butchers. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Greg Fiorentino wrote: Hey, there are a lot of people out there who don't want to kill, but are happy to pay someone else to kill for them. Hey, it makes jobs for butchers. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Hey, there are a lot of people out there who don't want to kill, but are happy to pay someone else to kill for them. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 3:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit How do you get blood with out violence? -Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. andrew strasfogel wrote: People: No need for violence or the purchase of costly firearms. Dried predator blood seems to be doing the trick, but I shall remain vigilant as the soybeans begin to sprout... Soybeans are the caviar of urban rabbit food. Andrew On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:33 PM, John Reames wrote: > .22WMR (with scope), a nice bench or chair under a nice shade tree with a > breeze, a good book, and a pitcher of iced tea... > > Oh and some commercial trash bags... Or a good idea of where the local > skunks are (they seem to take care of carcasses well enough) > > Be the mountain... Then reach out and touch them! > > -- > John W Reames > jream...@verizon.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > On Apr 29, 2011, at 11:37, Rich Thomas < > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > > > My granddaddy used to shoot groundhogs with a .22 at some distance and it > would generally go right through them, not kill them right away, they would > usually crawl back in their hole never to emerge. Those things are pretty > tough. Getting close enough to them to use a shotgun is a good challenge, > they are wary and quick. They also seem to have a sense for a gun, on the > farm they would be out around the barn in the evenings, and you could get > fairly close to them before they ran off, but if you were carrying a shotgun > they would take off quickly as soon as they saw it. > > > > --R > > > > On 4/29/2011 11:25 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > >> At camp a squirrel can be dispatched with a .22 but a groundhog REQUIRES > a .410 or larger because I'm nervous about a groundhog crawling under the > camp to die. The stink would be awful! > >> > >> -Curt > >> > >> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:30:58 -0400 > >> From: John Reames > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally > >> wabbit > >> Message-ID: > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >> > >> There is something to be said for something with 30lb-ft at the muzzle > without using any sort of powder... > >> > >> That might deal with groundhogs at short-mid range... > >> > >> > >> -- > >> John W Reames > >> jream...@verizon.net > >> Home: +14106646986 > >> Mobile: +14437915905 > >> > >> > >>_ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > >_ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >_ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Andrew has a secret life: he sneaks out at night to club helpless little wolves and coyotes How do you get blood with out violence? -Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. andrew strasfogel wrote: People: No need for violence or the purchase of costly firearms. Dried predator blood seems to be doing the trick, but I shall remain vigilant as the soybeans begin to sprout... Soybeans are the caviar of urban rabbit food. Andrew On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:33 PM, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
LOL!! I think there either was a critter blood drive, or perhaps they sold their blood for rabbit meat? On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > How do you get blood with out violence? > > -Max > -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > andrew strasfogel wrote: > > People: No need for violence or the purchase of costly firearms. Dried > predator blood seems to be doing the trick, but I shall remain vigilant as > the soybeans begin to sprout... Soybeans are the caviar of urban rabbit > food. Andrew On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:33 PM, John Reames < > jwrea...@comcast.net> wrote: > .22WMR (with scope), a nice bench or chair > under a nice shade tree with a > breeze, a good book, and a pitcher of iced > tea... > > Oh and some commercial trash bags... Or a good idea of where the > local > skunks are (they seem to take care of carcasses well enough) > > Be > the mountain... Then reach out and touch them! > > -- > John W Reames > > jream...@verizon.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > On > Apr 29, 2011, at 11:37, Rich Thomas < > > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > > > My granddaddy used to > shoot groundhogs with a .22 at some distance and it > would generally go > right through them, not kill them right away, they would > usually crawl > back in their > hole never to emerge. Those things are pretty > tough. Getting close enough > to them to use a shotgun is a good challenge, > they are wary and quick. > They also seem to have a sense for a gun, on the > farm they would be out > around the barn in the evenings, and you could get > fairly close to them > before they ran off, but if you were carrying a shotgun > they would take > off quickly as soon as they saw it. > > > > --R > > > > On 4/29/2011 11:25 > AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > >> At camp a squirrel can be dispatched with a .22 > but a groundhog REQUIRES > a .410 or larger because I'm nervous about a > groundhog crawling under the > camp to die. The stink would be awful! > >> > > >> -Curt > >> > >> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:30:58 -0400 > >> From: John > Reames > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List< > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a > trap to catch a wascally > >> wabbit > >> Message-ID:< > b192579d-a126-4a9c-988b-be32bedde...@comcast.net> > >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >> > >> There is something to > be said for something with 30lb-ft at the muzzle > without using any sort of > powder... > >> > >> That might deal with groundhogs at short-mid range... > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> John W Reames > >> jream...@verizon.net > >> Home: > +14106646986 > >> Mobile: +14437915905 > >> > >> > > >>_ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to > www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change > delivery options go to: > >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > >_ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to > www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery > options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >_ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com> To > > search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery > options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>_ > http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To > search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or > change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
How do you get blood with out violence? -Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. andrew strasfogel wrote: People: No need for violence or the purchase of costly firearms. Dried predator blood seems to be doing the trick, but I shall remain vigilant as the soybeans begin to sprout... Soybeans are the caviar of urban rabbit food. Andrew On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:33 PM, John Reames wrote: > .22WMR (with scope), a nice bench or chair under a nice shade tree with a > breeze, a good book, and a pitcher of iced tea... > > Oh and some commercial trash bags... Or a good idea of where the local > skunks are (they seem to take care of carcasses well enough) > > Be the mountain... Then reach out and touch them! > > -- > John W Reames > jream...@verizon.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > On Apr 29, 2011, at 11:37, Rich Thomas < > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > > > My granddaddy used to shoot groundhogs with a .22 at some distance and it > would generally go right through them, not kill them right away, they would > usually crawl back in their hole never to emerge. Those things are pretty > tough. Getting close enough to them to use a shotgun is a good challenge, > they are wary and quick. They also seem to have a sense for a gun, on the > farm they would be out around the barn in the evenings, and you could get > fairly close to them before they ran off, but if you were carrying a shotgun > they would take off quickly as soon as they saw it. > > > > --R > > > > On 4/29/2011 11:25 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > >> At camp a squirrel can be dispatched with a .22 but a groundhog REQUIRES > a .410 or larger because I'm nervous about a groundhog crawling under the > camp to die. The stink would be awful! > >> > >> -Curt > >> > >> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:30:58 -0400 > >> From: John Reames > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally > >> wabbit > >> Message-ID: > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >> > >> There is something to be said for something with 30lb-ft at the muzzle > without using any sort of powder... > >> > >> That might deal with groundhogs at short-mid range... > >> > >> > >> -- > >> John W Reames > >> jream...@verizon.net > >> Home: +14106646986 > >> Mobile: +14437915905 > >> > >> > >>_ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To > >> Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > >> >_ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To > > Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >_ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To > search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or > change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
People: No need for violence or the purchase of costly firearms. Dried predator blood seems to be doing the trick, but I shall remain vigilant as the soybeans begin to sprout... Soybeans are the caviar of urban rabbit food. Andrew On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:33 PM, John Reames wrote: > .22WMR (with scope), a nice bench or chair under a nice shade tree with a > breeze, a good book, and a pitcher of iced tea... > > Oh and some commercial trash bags... Or a good idea of where the local > skunks are (they seem to take care of carcasses well enough) > > Be the mountain... Then reach out and touch them! > > -- > John W Reames > jream...@verizon.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > On Apr 29, 2011, at 11:37, Rich Thomas < > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > > > My granddaddy used to shoot groundhogs with a .22 at some distance and it > would generally go right through them, not kill them right away, they would > usually crawl back in their hole never to emerge. Those things are pretty > tough. Getting close enough to them to use a shotgun is a good challenge, > they are wary and quick. They also seem to have a sense for a gun, on the > farm they would be out around the barn in the evenings, and you could get > fairly close to them before they ran off, but if you were carrying a shotgun > they would take off quickly as soon as they saw it. > > > > --R > > > > On 4/29/2011 11:25 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > >> At camp a squirrel can be dispatched with a .22 but a groundhog REQUIRES > a .410 or larger because I'm nervous about a groundhog crawling under the > camp to die. The stink would be awful! > >> > >> -Curt > >> > >> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:30:58 -0400 > >> From: John Reames > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally > >> wabbit > >> Message-ID: > >> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii > >> > >> There is something to be said for something with 30lb-ft at the muzzle > without using any sort of powder... > >> > >> That might deal with groundhogs at short-mid range... > >> > >> > >> -- > >> John W Reames > >> jream...@verizon.net > >> Home: +14106646986 > >> Mobile: +14437915905 > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
.22WMR (with scope), a nice bench or chair under a nice shade tree with a breeze, a good book, and a pitcher of iced tea... Oh and some commercial trash bags... Or a good idea of where the local skunks are (they seem to take care of carcasses well enough) Be the mountain... Then reach out and touch them! -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 29, 2011, at 11:37, Rich Thomas wrote: > My granddaddy used to shoot groundhogs with a .22 at some distance and it > would generally go right through them, not kill them right away, they would > usually crawl back in their hole never to emerge. Those things are pretty > tough. Getting close enough to them to use a shotgun is a good challenge, > they are wary and quick. They also seem to have a sense for a gun, on the > farm they would be out around the barn in the evenings, and you could get > fairly close to them before they ran off, but if you were carrying a shotgun > they would take off quickly as soon as they saw it. > > --R > > On 4/29/2011 11:25 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: >> At camp a squirrel can be dispatched with a .22 but a groundhog REQUIRES a >> .410 or larger because I'm nervous about a groundhog crawling under the camp >> to die. The stink would be awful! >> >> -Curt >> >> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:30:58 -0400 >> From: John Reames >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally >> wabbit >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii >> >> There is something to be said for something with 30lb-ft at the muzzle >> without using any sort of powder... >> >> That might deal with groundhogs at short-mid range... >> >> >> -- >> John W Reames >> jream...@verizon.net >> Home: +14106646986 >> Mobile: +14437915905 >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
.22WMR works great on groundhogs--at least with headshots, at least out to 120yds. (and they don't crawl very far) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 29, 2011, at 11:25, Curt Raymond wrote: > At camp a squirrel can be dispatched with a .22 but a groundhog REQUIRES a > .410 or larger because I'm nervous about a groundhog crawling under the camp > to die. The stink would be awful! > > -Curt > > Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:30:58 -0400 > From: John Reames > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally >wabbit > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii > > There is something to be said for something with 30lb-ft at the muzzle > without using any sort of powder... > > That might deal with groundhogs at short-mid range... > > > -- > John W Reames > jream...@verizon.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
They probably could smell the gun. Either the powder or the oil but they learned it was a danger. Randy On 29/04/2011 10:37 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: My granddaddy used to shoot groundhogs with a .22 at some distance and it would generally go right through them, not kill them right away, they would usually crawl back in their hole never to emerge. Those things are pretty tough. Getting close enough to them to use a shotgun is a good challenge, they are wary and quick. They also seem to have a sense for a gun, on the farm they would be out around the barn in the evenings, and you could get fairly close to them before they ran off, but if you were carrying a shotgun they would take off quickly as soon as they saw it. --R On 4/29/2011 11:25 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: At camp a squirrel can be dispatched with a .22 but a groundhog REQUIRES a .410 or larger because I'm nervous about a groundhog crawling under the camp to die. The stink would be awful! -Curt Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:30:58 -0400 From: John Reames To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii There is something to be said for something with 30lb-ft at the muzzle without using any sort of powder... That might deal with groundhogs at short-mid range... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
My granddaddy used to shoot groundhogs with a .22 at some distance and it would generally go right through them, not kill them right away, they would usually crawl back in their hole never to emerge. Those things are pretty tough. Getting close enough to them to use a shotgun is a good challenge, they are wary and quick. They also seem to have a sense for a gun, on the farm they would be out around the barn in the evenings, and you could get fairly close to them before they ran off, but if you were carrying a shotgun they would take off quickly as soon as they saw it. --R On 4/29/2011 11:25 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: At camp a squirrel can be dispatched with a .22 but a groundhog REQUIRES a .410 or larger because I'm nervous about a groundhog crawling under the camp to die. The stink would be awful! -Curt Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:30:58 -0400 From: John Reames To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii There is something to be said for something with 30lb-ft at the muzzle without using any sort of powder... That might deal with groundhogs at short-mid range... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
At camp a squirrel can be dispatched with a .22 but a groundhog REQUIRES a .410 or larger because I'm nervous about a groundhog crawling under the camp to die. The stink would be awful! -Curt Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:30:58 -0400 From: John Reames To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii There is something to be said for something with 30lb-ft at the muzzle without using any sort of powder... That might deal with groundhogs at short-mid range... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Depending on the weather that kind of noise can really travel. My parents live
well over 2 miles from the local range and sometimes when they shoot trap on a
Sunday the sound comes through loud and clear...
-Curt
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:10:01 -0400
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:34 -0700, "Curt Raymond" wrote:
> Still in a dense urban area a pellet gun ensures neighborhood tranquility.
Out here in our wooded neighborhood I heard machine-gun fire, or at least
semi-auto with a very quick trigger finger, last weekend. I think someone out
here has built a firing range on his property, but I'm not sure exactly where
it is. It's within earshot, but not really close.
Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
There is something to be said for something with 30lb-ft at the muzzle without using any sort of powder... That might deal with groundhogs at short-mid range... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 28, 2011, at 21:46, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > I understand. I just rebel at the $350 price tag for a pellet gun. When I > was a kid the Daisy bb gun was $20 to $25, and a pellet gun was $35 to $50 > > But then I guess if you use cars or fuel for comparison, the pellet gun is a > bargain. The Ruger 10/22 is a way better bargain, especially since they are > plentiful used, and a used one is as good or better than a new one. > >> In Canada we have long gun registry. I am looking for something that will >> dispatch squirrels but not require registration. Also, the cottage is within >> a town area that does not permit shooting. We have been using a little >> single shot 22 with shorts but I would feel more legally justified with >> pellets. >> >> Randy >> >> On 27/04/2011 9:47 PM, Dieselhead wrote: >>> Ruger 10-22. Much cheaper and more useful. Plentiful on the used market. >>> Got any recommendations on what sort of pellet gun to buy? Randy >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Yah, it was, although beeman quit handling them about the time they went to the birds... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 28, 2011, at 19:27, Mitch Haley wrote: > John Reames wrote: >> You mean like the beeman kodiak .25 (NLA)? > > Kodiak was a Webley Patriot, wasn't it? > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
I understand. I just rebel at the $350 price tag for a pellet gun. When I was a kid the Daisy bb gun was $20 to $25, and a pellet gun was $35 to $50 But then I guess if you use cars or fuel for comparison, the pellet gun is a bargain. The Ruger 10/22 is a way better bargain, especially since they are plentiful used, and a used one is as good or better than a new one. In Canada we have long gun registry. I am looking for something that will dispatch squirrels but not require registration. Also, the cottage is within a town area that does not permit shooting. We have been using a little single shot 22 with shorts but I would feel more legally justified with pellets. Randy On 27/04/2011 9:47 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Ruger 10-22. Much cheaper and more useful. Plentiful on the used market. Got any recommendations on what sort of pellet gun to buy? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
John Reames wrote: You mean like the beeman kodiak .25 (NLA)? Kodiak was a Webley Patriot, wasn't it? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Yeah. Real quiet in a bolt action. You'll hear the critter squawk over the shot. (prob because they are subsonic) Btw mossberg made som bull-barreled .22 bolts for civil marksmanship training... Of course there are no scope provisions. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 28, 2011, at 15:09, andrew strasfogel wrote: > Shooting with shorts?? > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: > >> In Canada we have long gun registry. I am looking for something that will >> dispatch squirrels but not require registration. Also, the cottage is within >> a town area that does not permit shooting. We have been using a little >> single shot 22 with shorts but I would feel more legally justified with >> pellets. >> >> Randy >> >> On 27/04/2011 9:47 PM, Dieselhead wrote: >> >>> Ruger 10-22. Much cheaper and more useful. Plentiful on the used market. >>> >>> Got any recommendations on what sort of pellet gun to buy? Randy >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
You mean like the beeman kodiak .25 (NLA)? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 27, 2011, at 19:33, Mitch Haley wrote: > Randy Bennell wrote: >> Got any recommendations on what sort of pellet gun to buy? > > This is the sweetest little gun around: > http://www.pyramydair.com/p/beeman-HW30-air-rifle.shtml > > You might want more power for hunting, but you don't want something that > kicks and vibrates like crazy. I'd shy away from very high powered Spanish > rifles and just about anything Chinese. > > Something with the power and quality of a Beeman R9 or BSA Supersport makes a > good all around pellet rifle. I really don't know what's hit the market in > the last ten years or so, but the market seems to have caught a severe case > of Magnumitis. Any spring piston rifle that makes my RWS 48 look weak is > probably not going to be a joy to shoot. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Yes, little 1/2 long bullets that make very little noise when fired. Still go a long way however. I have shot off of the hill, out over the bay, when the lake was smooth and they go probably a half mile. You can see them hit the water way out. Might wear shorts too if it is warm enough and the bugs are not too bad. Randy On 28/04/2011 2:09 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Shooting with shorts?? On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: In Canada we have long gun registry. I am looking for something that will dispatch squirrels but not require registration. Also, the cottage is within a town area that does not permit shooting. We have been using a little single shot 22 with shorts but I would feel more legally justified with pellets. Randy On 27/04/2011 9:47 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Ruger 10-22. Much cheaper and more useful. Plentiful on the used market. Got any recommendations on what sort of pellet gun to buy? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
The militia is training to fight the New World Order. --R On 4/28/2011 3:10 PM, Allan Streib wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:34 -0700, "Curt Raymond" wrote: Still in a dense urban area a pellet gun ensures neighborhood tranquility. Out here in our wooded neighborhood I heard machine-gun fire, or at least semi-auto with a very quick trigger finger, last weekend. I think someone out here has built a firing range on his property, but I'm not sure exactly where it is. It's within earshot, but not really close. Allan -- 1979 300SD 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:34 -0700, "Curt Raymond" wrote: > Still in a dense urban area a pellet gun ensures neighborhood tranquility. Out here in our wooded neighborhood I heard machine-gun fire, or at least semi-auto with a very quick trigger finger, last weekend. I think someone out here has built a firing range on his property, but I'm not sure exactly where it is. It's within earshot, but not really close. Allan -- 1979 300SD 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Shooting with shorts?? On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: > In Canada we have long gun registry. I am looking for something that will > dispatch squirrels but not require registration. Also, the cottage is within > a town area that does not permit shooting. We have been using a little > single shot 22 with shorts but I would feel more legally justified with > pellets. > > Randy > > On 27/04/2011 9:47 PM, Dieselhead wrote: > >> Ruger 10-22. Much cheaper and more useful. Plentiful on the used market. >> >> Got any recommendations on what sort of pellet gun to buy? >>> >>> Randy >>> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Not all that cheap, I bet you'll pay over a hundred... Can only shoot .22 long rifle in them, not so good in an urban context. A single shot bolt action is more useful for urban varmint warfare. My Dad has been collecting "boy's rifles" for some time now, won't pay more than $100 for one. The beauty is they'll shoot anything. Still in a dense urban area a pellet gun ensures neighborhood tranquility. -Curt Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:47:57 -0500 From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Ruger 10-22. Much cheaper and more useful. Plentiful on the used market. >Got any recommendations on what sort of pellet gun to buy? > >Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
In Canada we have long gun registry. I am looking for something that will dispatch squirrels but not require registration. Also, the cottage is within a town area that does not permit shooting. We have been using a little single shot 22 with shorts but I would feel more legally justified with pellets. Randy On 27/04/2011 9:47 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Ruger 10-22. Much cheaper and more useful. Plentiful on the used market. Got any recommendations on what sort of pellet gun to buy? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Last time I checked, the pellet guns were more expensive than a cheap .22 So I always just used a .22 with CB or BB caps An old bolt-action rifle and a box of CB's. Shoot from inside, through open door/window. Cheap and highly effective. Just the ticket! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Ruger 10-22. Much cheaper and more useful. Plentiful on the used market. Got any recommendations on what sort of pellet gun to buy? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 17:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond wrote: > Not really, check Cabellas, they carry higher end stuff. http://www.cabelas.com/home.jsp Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Go to HF, buy a live trap, Bait it with the aforementioned bunny bait. One of them was 'nanners People: The topic line says "trap" not "shoot". I could very easily dispatch the rabbit; the challenge is to TRAP and release him or her far away from the garden. As an incentive, I will ship a jar of homemade jalapeno pepper jelly - made without any unnatural resources - to the first list member who comes up with a successful resolution of my problem that does not involve lethal methods. Andrew On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: But in most jurisdictions they are legal to use even where firearms are not. IIRC British Columbia considers air guns as firearms if their projectiles are above a certain velocity. As far as noise...I am surprised to see that the governor of Washington has just signed a bill into law allowing the use of legally owned suppressors (silencers). These require a not-too-expensive federal tax stamp. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit I had a certain interest in gas-sprung .22 pellet rifles for a while, but the darn things (and the pellets) are more expensive than a "real" .22! I've favored the pointed field pellets when I needed to be extra-assertive myself. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 26, 2011, at 17:49, Curt Raymond wrote: > .22 CB caps are VERY quiet as they're subsonic. I've killed many a squirrel with them although the effective range is ~50 feet. > A good subsonic air rife is even quieter and can have similar range. > > A Red Ryder bb gun won't kill a squirrel but enough shots in the behind will convince one to move on to safer territory. > > -Curt > > Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:25:46 -0400 > From: John Reames > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally >wabbit > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii > > .22 shorts in a rifle are known to be relatively quiet... > > -- > John W Reames > jream...@verizon.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OK Don wrote: Very high ratings, but discountinued --- Only at that store, I'm sure. Hermann Weirauch isn't going to discontinue the HW30, especially with as many of them as Beeman sells under the R-7 name. http://www.beeman.com/r7.htm If you really want the best: https://mac1airgunstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=278 For warm weather use, a 50 year old Crosman can be just the ticket. All the bulk fill CO2 guns and the early CO2 bulb guns were pretty good. I wish I'd never sold my 400 (a .22 caliber bolt action repeater). I'm sure I got at least $160 for it, about 15 years ago. http://www.airguns.net/classifieds/show_ad.php?adNum=31449&adSort=&StartingAd=0&NumberOfPages=5 I've still got one of my 160s, and a heavily modified replica of a 167 that I built for Field Target matches. (if you can imagine a little 1960s vintage Crosman with an extended length gas tube and a 6.5-20x50mm scope on it) A pump up gun is more of an all weather tool, doesn't lose power when cold like CO2 does. Crosman 140/1400, and the Benjamin/Sheridan guns were quite well made. That reminds me, I've got an old .177 nickel plated Benjamin that needs a rebuild, I've had it for over ten years and never gotten into it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Very high ratings, but discountinued --- On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Randy Bennell wrote: > >> Got any recommendations on what sort of pellet gun to buy? >> > > This is the sweetest little gun around: > http://www.pyramydair.com/p/beeman-HW30-air-rifle.shtml > > > -- > OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
RWS is hard to beat for quality at a somewhat high but not extreme price. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 3:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit Got any recommendations on what sort of pellet gun to buy? Randy On 27/04/2011 4:56 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > Pellet guns have advanced amazingly in the last 15-20 years. These days for ~$300 you can get a just barely supersonic model that will punch the same hole over and over at 50 feet. They'll knock a squirrel for a loop. > > -Curt > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:51:29 -0700 (PDT) > From: LWB250 > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally > wabbit > Message-ID:<504835.39745...@web65706.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I used the .177 domed pellets. I also have some target rounds from my high school days - these have points and "tails" to increase accuracy. As far as dispatching varmints, they're not that great, as they just stick in the skin and don't penetrate a great deal. > > Dan > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Not really, check Cabellas, they carry higher end stuff. -Curt Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 17:08:09 -0500 From: Randy Bennell To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit Message-ID: <4db893c9.2020...@bennell.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Got any recommendations on what sort of pellet gun to buy? Randy On 27/04/2011 4:56 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > Pellet guns have advanced amazingly in the last 15-20 years. These days for > ~$300 you can get a just barely supersonic model that will punch the same > hole over and over at 50 feet. They'll knock a squirrel for a loop. > > -Curt > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:51:29 -0700 (PDT) > From: LWB250 > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally > wabbit > Message-ID:<504835.39745...@web65706.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I used the .177 domed pellets. I also have some target rounds from my high > school days - these have points and "tails" to increase accuracy. As far as > dispatching varmints, they're not that great, as they just stick in the skin > and don't penetrate a great deal. > > Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
I again second the nanners, it's like rabbit heroine. Too many and they get the rabbit-runs though... Walt On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 7:10 PM, John Reames wrote: > I'll say it again. Bananas. > > Rabbits *do* have a sweet tooth. > > -- > John W Reames > jream...@verizon.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > On Apr 27, 2011, at 12:34, andrew strasfogel wrote: > >> People: The topic line says "trap" not "shoot". I could very easily >> dispatch the rabbit; the challenge is to TRAP and release him or her far >> away from the garden. >> >> As an incentive, I will ship a jar of homemade jalapeno pepper jelly - made >> without any unnatural resources - to the first list member who comes up with >> a successful resolution of my problem that does not involve lethal methods. >> Andrew >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Greg Fiorentino >> wrote: >> >>> But in most jurisdictions they are legal to use even where firearms are >>> not. >>> IIRC British Columbia considers air guns as firearms if their projectiles >>> are above a certain velocity. >>> >>> As far as noise...I am surprised to see that the governor of Washington has >>> just signed a bill into law allowing the use of legally owned suppressors >>> (silencers). These require a not-too-expensive federal tax stamp. >>> >>> Greg >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] >>> On Behalf Of John Reames >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:01 AM >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit >>> >>> I had a certain interest in gas-sprung .22 pellet rifles for a while, but >>> the darn things (and the pellets) are more expensive than a "real" .22! >>> >>> I've favored the pointed field pellets when I needed to be extra-assertive >>> myself. >>> >>> -- >>> John W Reames >>> jream...@verizon.net >>> Home: +14106646986 >>> Mobile: +14437915905 >>> >>> On Apr 26, 2011, at 17:49, Curt Raymond wrote: >>> >>>> .22 CB caps are VERY quiet as they're subsonic. I've killed many a >>> squirrel with them although the effective range is ~50 feet. >>>> A good subsonic air rife is even quieter and can have similar range. >>>> >>>> A Red Ryder bb gun won't kill a squirrel but enough shots in the behind >>> will convince one to move on to safer territory. >>>> >>>> -Curt >>>> >>>> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:25:46 -0400 >>>> From: John Reames >>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally >>>> wabbit >>>> Message-ID: >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>>> >>>> .22 shorts in a rifle are known to be relatively quiet... >>>> >>>> -- >>>> John W Reames >>>> jream...@verizon.net >>>> Home: +14106646986 >>>> Mobile: +14437915905 >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Randy Bennell wrote: Got any recommendations on what sort of pellet gun to buy? This is the sweetest little gun around: http://www.pyramydair.com/p/beeman-HW30-air-rifle.shtml You might want more power for hunting, but you don't want something that kicks and vibrates like crazy. I'd shy away from very high powered Spanish rifles and just about anything Chinese. Something with the power and quality of a Beeman R9 or BSA Supersport makes a good all around pellet rifle. I really don't know what's hit the market in the last ten years or so, but the market seems to have caught a severe case of Magnumitis. Any spring piston rifle that makes my RWS 48 look weak is probably not going to be a joy to shoot. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
I'll say it again. Bananas. Rabbits *do* have a sweet tooth. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 27, 2011, at 12:34, andrew strasfogel wrote: > People: The topic line says "trap" not "shoot". I could very easily > dispatch the rabbit; the challenge is to TRAP and release him or her far > away from the garden. > > As an incentive, I will ship a jar of homemade jalapeno pepper jelly - made > without any unnatural resources - to the first list member who comes up with > a successful resolution of my problem that does not involve lethal methods. > Andrew > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Greg Fiorentino > wrote: > >> But in most jurisdictions they are legal to use even where firearms are >> not. >> IIRC British Columbia considers air guns as firearms if their projectiles >> are above a certain velocity. >> >> As far as noise...I am surprised to see that the governor of Washington has >> just signed a bill into law allowing the use of legally owned suppressors >> (silencers). These require a not-too-expensive federal tax stamp. >> >> Greg >> >> -Original Message- >> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] >> On Behalf Of John Reames >> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:01 AM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit >> >> I had a certain interest in gas-sprung .22 pellet rifles for a while, but >> the darn things (and the pellets) are more expensive than a "real" .22! >> >> I've favored the pointed field pellets when I needed to be extra-assertive >> myself. >> >> -- >> John W Reames >> jream...@verizon.net >> Home: +14106646986 >> Mobile: +14437915905 >> >> On Apr 26, 2011, at 17:49, Curt Raymond wrote: >> >>> .22 CB caps are VERY quiet as they're subsonic. I've killed many a >> squirrel with them although the effective range is ~50 feet. >>> A good subsonic air rife is even quieter and can have similar range. >>> >>> A Red Ryder bb gun won't kill a squirrel but enough shots in the behind >> will convince one to move on to safer territory. >>> >>> -Curt >>> >>> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:25:46 -0400 >>> From: John Reames >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally >>> wabbit >>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii >>> >>> .22 shorts in a rifle are known to be relatively quiet... >>> >>> -- >>> John W Reames >>> jream...@verizon.net >>> Home: +14106646986 >>> Mobile: +14437915905 >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
The Benjamin .177 pistol I speak of was my Dad's as a kid. It's got to be at least 70 years old if not more. Dan --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Curt Raymond wrote: > From: Curt Raymond > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit > To: "Diesel List" > Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 5:56 PM > Pellet guns have advanced amazingly > in the last 15-20 years. These days for ~$300 you can get a > just barely supersonic model that will punch the same hole > over and over at 50 feet. They'll knock a squirrel for a > loop. > > -Curt > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:51:29 -0700 (PDT) > From: LWB250 > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a > wascally > wabbit > Message-ID: <504835.39745...@web65706.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I used the .177 domed pellets. I also have some > target rounds from my high school days - these have points > and "tails" to increase accuracy. As far as > dispatching varmints, they're not that great, as they just > stick in the skin and don't penetrate a great deal. > > Dan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Got any recommendations on what sort of pellet gun to buy? Randy On 27/04/2011 4:56 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Pellet guns have advanced amazingly in the last 15-20 years. These days for ~$300 you can get a just barely supersonic model that will punch the same hole over and over at 50 feet. They'll knock a squirrel for a loop. -Curt Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:51:29 -0700 (PDT) From: LWB250 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit Message-ID:<504835.39745...@web65706.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I used the .177 domed pellets. I also have some target rounds from my high school days - these have points and "tails" to increase accuracy. As far as dispatching varmints, they're not that great, as they just stick in the skin and don't penetrate a great deal. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
One other thing that I haven't seen mentioned: get a dog, and an invisible fence. Allan andrew strasfogel writes: > We have some pretty huge parks that would swallow up a bunny and maybe even > provide food for a coyote... > -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Pellet guns have advanced amazingly in the last 15-20 years. These days for ~$300 you can get a just barely supersonic model that will punch the same hole over and over at 50 feet. They'll knock a squirrel for a loop. -Curt Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:51:29 -0700 (PDT) From: LWB250 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit Message-ID: <504835.39745...@web65706.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I used the .177 domed pellets. I also have some target rounds from my high school days - these have points and "tails" to increase accuracy. As far as dispatching varmints, they're not that great, as they just stick in the skin and don't penetrate a great deal. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
We have some pretty huge parks that would swallow up a bunny and maybe even provide food for a coyote... On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > My dad kills (with a rat trap) about 40 chipmunks a year. People in the > city live trap them and deposit the little buggers near his house where they > decide he has the tastiest lawn around... > > You're just giving your problem to somebody else. > > -Curt > > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:34:04 -0400 > From: andrew strasfogel > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally >wabbit > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > People: The topic line says "trap" not "shoot". I could very easily > dispatch the rabbit; the challenge is to TRAP and release him or her far > away from the garden. > > As an incentive, I will ship a jar of homemade jalapeno pepper jelly - made > without any unnatural resources - to the first list member who comes up > with > a successful resolution of my problem that does not involve lethal methods. > Andrew > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
My dad kills (with a rat trap) about 40 chipmunks a year. People in the city live trap them and deposit the little buggers near his house where they decide he has the tastiest lawn around... You're just giving your problem to somebody else. -Curt Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:34:04 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 People: The topic line says "trap" not "shoot". I could very easily dispatch the rabbit; the challenge is to TRAP and release him or her far away from the garden. As an incentive, I will ship a jar of homemade jalapeno pepper jelly - made without any unnatural resources - to the first list member who comes up with a successful resolution of my problem that does not involve lethal methods. Andrew ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
andrew strasfogel wrote: This sounds like an urban myth. I was just looking for it and failed to find it. Too long ago I guess, and I do not remember the guy's name. He fancied himself a modern day Johnny Appleseed. His arrest was at least mentioned in a MSM news source at the time, as I first found it on Keepandbeararms.com's newslinks page. His web site and/or blog had quite a diatribe about it. He ended up hating the Secret Service more than he hated the Arbor Day Foundation (which had to do with their enforcement of a copyright on the phrase 'Arbor Day'). Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
OK, do this. http://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/survival-trapping/homemade-box-trap/ Bait it with something tasty and tomorrow morning you will have your bunny. You can build one in no time from scrap. BTW they work for cats too, just use some tuna or catfood wrapped in a cloth bag or something like that for bait. --R On 4/27/2011 12:34 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: People: The topic line says "trap" not "shoot". I could very easily dispatch the rabbit; the challenge is to TRAP and release him or her far away from the garden. As an incentive, I will ship a jar of homemade jalapeno pepper jelly - made without any unnatural resources - to the first list member who comes up with a successful resolution of my problem that does not involve lethal methods. Andrew ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
This sounds like an urban myth. On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Greg Fiorentino wrote: > >> But in most jurisdictions they are legal to use even where firearms are >> not. >> > > Just don't be like the guy who went into DC on Arbor Day to give trees to > Gore and Clinton. The SS found a Benjamin pellet gun in his vehicle and > handed him over to DC Metro for prosecution on DC weapons charges. Andrew > and Donna live in that hellhole, IIRC. > > Mitch. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Greg Fiorentino wrote: But in most jurisdictions they are legal to use even where firearms are not. Just don't be like the guy who went into DC on Arbor Day to give trees to Gore and Clinton. The SS found a Benjamin pellet gun in his vehicle and handed him over to DC Metro for prosecution on DC weapons charges. Andrew and Donna live in that hellhole, IIRC. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Forgot to mention they LOVE dried alfalfa. another one of those bunny magnets. Walt On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:34 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > People: The topic line says "trap" not "shoot". I could very easily > dispatch the rabbit; the challenge is to TRAP and release him or her far > away from the garden. > > As an incentive, I will ship a jar of homemade jalapeno pepper jelly - made > without any unnatural resources - to the first list member who comes up with > a successful resolution of my problem that does not involve lethal methods. > Andrew > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Greg Fiorentino > wrote: > >> But in most jurisdictions they are legal to use even where firearms are >> not. >> IIRC British Columbia considers air guns as firearms if their projectiles >> are above a certain velocity. >> >> As far as noise...I am surprised to see that the governor of Washington has >> just signed a bill into law allowing the use of legally owned suppressors >> (silencers). These require a not-too-expensive federal tax stamp. >> >> Greg >> >> -Original Message- >> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] >> On Behalf Of John Reames >> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:01 AM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit >> >> I had a certain interest in gas-sprung .22 pellet rifles for a while, but >> the darn things (and the pellets) are more expensive than a "real" .22! >> >> I've favored the pointed field pellets when I needed to be extra-assertive >> myself. >> >> -- >> John W Reames >> jream...@verizon.net >> Home: +14106646986 >> Mobile: +14437915905 >> >> On Apr 26, 2011, at 17:49, Curt Raymond wrote: >> >> > .22 CB caps are VERY quiet as they're subsonic. I've killed many a >> squirrel with them although the effective range is ~50 feet. >> > A good subsonic air rife is even quieter and can have similar range. >> > >> > A Red Ryder bb gun won't kill a squirrel but enough shots in the behind >> will convince one to move on to safer territory. >> > >> > -Curt >> > >> > Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:25:46 -0400 >> > From: John Reames >> > To: Mercedes Discussion List >> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally >> > wabbit >> > Message-ID: >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> > >> > .22 shorts in a rifle are known to be relatively quiet... >> > >> > -- >> > John W Reames >> > jream...@verizon.net >> > Home: +14106646986 >> > Mobile: +14437915905 >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
People: The topic line says "trap" not "shoot". I could very easily dispatch the rabbit; the challenge is to TRAP and release him or her far away from the garden. As an incentive, I will ship a jar of homemade jalapeno pepper jelly - made without any unnatural resources - to the first list member who comes up with a successful resolution of my problem that does not involve lethal methods. Andrew On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: > But in most jurisdictions they are legal to use even where firearms are > not. > IIRC British Columbia considers air guns as firearms if their projectiles > are above a certain velocity. > > As far as noise...I am surprised to see that the governor of Washington has > just signed a bill into law allowing the use of legally owned suppressors > (silencers). These require a not-too-expensive federal tax stamp. > > Greg > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of John Reames > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:01 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit > > I had a certain interest in gas-sprung .22 pellet rifles for a while, but > the darn things (and the pellets) are more expensive than a "real" .22! > > I've favored the pointed field pellets when I needed to be extra-assertive > myself. > > -- > John W Reames > jream...@verizon.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > On Apr 26, 2011, at 17:49, Curt Raymond wrote: > > > .22 CB caps are VERY quiet as they're subsonic. I've killed many a > squirrel with them although the effective range is ~50 feet. > > A good subsonic air rife is even quieter and can have similar range. > > > > A Red Ryder bb gun won't kill a squirrel but enough shots in the behind > will convince one to move on to safer territory. > > > > -Curt > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:25:46 -0400 > > From: John Reames > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally > >wabbit > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii > > > > .22 shorts in a rifle are known to be relatively quiet... > > > > -- > > John W Reames > > jream...@verizon.net > > Home: +14106646986 > > Mobile: +14437915905 > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
But in most jurisdictions they are legal to use even where firearms are not. IIRC British Columbia considers air guns as firearms if their projectiles are above a certain velocity. As far as noise...I am surprised to see that the governor of Washington has just signed a bill into law allowing the use of legally owned suppressors (silencers). These require a not-too-expensive federal tax stamp. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit I had a certain interest in gas-sprung .22 pellet rifles for a while, but the darn things (and the pellets) are more expensive than a "real" .22! I've favored the pointed field pellets when I needed to be extra-assertive myself. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 26, 2011, at 17:49, Curt Raymond wrote: > .22 CB caps are VERY quiet as they're subsonic. I've killed many a squirrel with them although the effective range is ~50 feet. > A good subsonic air rife is even quieter and can have similar range. > > A Red Ryder bb gun won't kill a squirrel but enough shots in the behind will convince one to move on to safer territory. > > -Curt > > Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:25:46 -0400 > From: John Reames > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally >wabbit > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii > > .22 shorts in a rifle are known to be relatively quiet... > > -- > John W Reames > jream...@verizon.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
I used the .177 domed pellets. I also have some target rounds from my high school days - these have points and "tails" to increase accuracy. As far as dispatching varmints, they're not that great, as they just stick in the skin and don't penetrate a great deal. Dan --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Mitch Haley wrote: > From: Mitch Haley > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 9:22 AM > John Reames wrote: > > I had a certain interest in gas-sprung .22 pellet > rifles for a while, but the darn things (and the pellets) > are more expensive than a "real" .22! > > > > I've favored the pointed field pellets when I needed > to be extra-assertive myself. > > IMO, there are two pellet types. > Domes for aerodynamics and retained energy downrange, and > wadcutters to make neat holes in paper targets. > > Looks like Crosman Premier .22 in the tin are about $8 for > 500. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Last time I checked, the pellet guns were more expensive than a cheap .22 So I always just used a .22 with CB or BB caps for the residential/farm type stuff. both have enough punch to take care of a wabbit. One box lasts for years. Both are effective to clean pigeons out of a barn, and won't penetrate the old fashioned corrugated steel roof. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
John Reames wrote: I had a certain interest in gas-sprung .22 pellet rifles for a while, but the darn things (and the pellets) are more expensive than a "real" .22! I've favored the pointed field pellets when I needed to be extra-assertive myself. IMO, there are two pellet types. Domes for aerodynamics and retained energy downrange, and wadcutters to make neat holes in paper targets. Looks like Crosman Premier .22 in the tin are about $8 for 500. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit -- now raccoons
I was talking to this guy the other day, somehow the conversation got around to raccoons. He said he used to catch them by drilling a small hole in a log, sticking in some aluminum foil, then pounding in a nail such that the point stuck into the hole, The raccoon would come along and stick in a paw to try to get the foil (why this was attractive to them was not explained) but would not want to pull their paw out because the nail point would hurt them. So they would just sit there, paw in hole, until this guy came along to catch them or dispatch them or something. He would sell the skin (got good money) and give the carcass to some local Gullah folk who loved to cook them up. This probably won't work on a rabbit, but a simple box trap works fine on them. I used to make them as a kid and we would catch rabbits and skunks (this presented certain challenges) but they were too small for coons. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
I had a certain interest in gas-sprung .22 pellet rifles for a while, but the darn things (and the pellets) are more expensive than a "real" .22! I've favored the pointed field pellets when I needed to be extra-assertive myself. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 26, 2011, at 17:49, Curt Raymond wrote: > .22 CB caps are VERY quiet as they're subsonic. I've killed many a squirrel > with them although the effective range is ~50 feet. > A good subsonic air rife is even quieter and can have similar range. > > A Red Ryder bb gun won't kill a squirrel but enough shots in the behind will > convince one to move on to safer territory. > > -Curt > > Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:25:46 -0400 > From: John Reames > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally >wabbit > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii > > .22 shorts in a rifle are known to be relatively quiet... > > -- > John W Reames > jream...@verizon.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
> > > On Apr 26, 2011 3:51 AM, "Fmiser" wrote: > > > Rich Thomas wrote: > > > > > > Pellet gun, crossbow (more challenging), poison, or a pet > > > eagle or hawk. > > Fmiser wrote: > > > > Please not poison. > > > > A reason the rabbits are a problem is too few predators... > > > > And since the poisoned animal will attract the attention of > > the predators that are around... > > > > And since the poison will likely kill the predator too... > > > > Please avoid poison if there is any other method that will > > work. > Walt Zarnoch wrote: > > Agreed, they really aren't that bad if you fence in the garden > with chicken wire, and they can be intoxicatingly cute! I did not mean they should be tolerated damaging the garden. Use a fence, dog, rifle, big stick, bow, or some such to prevent damage. My point was poison deaths can ripple up and down the food chain and might cause more troubles than they solve. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
I nailed one right through the eye with my Dad's Benjamin .177 air pistol at about 4 meters. (Pump, not CO2) Didn't drop it on the spot, but it didn't get too far before it bit the big one, either. Dan --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Curt Raymond wrote: > From: Curt Raymond > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit > To: "Diesel List" > Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 5:49 PM > .22 CB caps are VERY quiet as they're > subsonic. I've killed many a squirrel with them although the > effective range is ~50 feet. > A good subsonic air rife is even quieter and can have > similar range. > > A Red Ryder bb gun won't kill a squirrel but enough shots > in the behind will convince one to move on to safer > territory. > > -Curt > > Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:25:46 -0400 > From: John Reames > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a > wascally > wabbit > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > .22 shorts in a rifle are known to be relatively quiet... > > -- > John W Reames > jream...@verizon.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
.22 CB caps are VERY quiet as they're subsonic. I've killed many a squirrel with them although the effective range is ~50 feet. A good subsonic air rife is even quieter and can have similar range. A Red Ryder bb gun won't kill a squirrel but enough shots in the behind will convince one to move on to safer territory. -Curt Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:25:46 -0400 From: John Reames To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii .22 shorts in a rifle are known to be relatively quiet... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
.22 shorts in a rifle are known to be relatively quiet... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 26, 2011, at 14:41, Benz Hogs wrote: > Shotgun! If you want a more silent approach, .22 :) > > Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL > '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) > '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) > > > On 4/25/2011 3:30 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: >> The d*mned cottontail rabbit left us alone last year but this year is in the >> back yard every morning, grazing the weeds and patiently waiting for my >> veggies (especially soybeands) to emerge so he can nip them off at ground >> level. This furry vandal has no redeeming qualities. >> >> I set a trap to snare him but he was completely unmoved by my choice of bait >> (carrots, fresh lettuce, melon pieces). What could possibly entice him? >> This is a savvy, well fed urban wabbit, not a naive country bumpkin. >> >> TIA, >> >> Andrew >> 1983 and 1985 300CD and 300TDs >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Do not laugh, I did that to the curb-stoning seller of the POS SDL. He was not happy to have homeland security looking into his affairs clay Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Apr 26, 2011, at 3:46 AM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: Ring the govenmentors and inform them that you suspect the rabbit of being an al quida operative. They'll come and take it away for a little chat. Hendrik who thinks some of the possums in the roof are acting suspicious Fmiser wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Pellet gun, crossbow (more challenging), poison, or a pet eagle or hawk. Please not poison. A reason the rabbits are a problem is too few predators... And since the poisoned animal will attract the attention of the predators that are around... And since the poison will likely kill the predator too... Please avoid poison if there is any other method that will work. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Shotgun! If you want a more silent approach, .22 :) Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 4/25/2011 3:30 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: The d*mned cottontail rabbit left us alone last year but this year is in the back yard every morning, grazing the weeds and patiently waiting for my veggies (especially soybeands) to emerge so he can nip them off at ground level. This furry vandal has no redeeming qualities. I set a trap to snare him but he was completely unmoved by my choice of bait (carrots, fresh lettuce, melon pieces). What could possibly entice him? This is a savvy, well fed urban wabbit, not a naive country bumpkin. TIA, Andrew 1983 and 1985 300CD and 300TDs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Not that it matters, but these were gray squirrels. The ones in Florida are almost waif-like compared to the ones in the Midwest. Not sure why, but it does make it harder to target them. A .22 is still as deadly to them, however. Dan --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Walt Zarnoch wrote: > From: Walt Zarnoch > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 12:09 PM > Red squirrels are demonic, and should > be shot on sight. > > Walt > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:41 AM, LWB250 > wrote: > > I prefer lead poisoning for these pesky rodents. > Much the same as I did for the squirrels who tried to turn > my attic into a condo a few years back. > > > > Dan > > > > > > --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Mitch Haley > wrote: > > > >> From: Mitch Haley > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap > to catch a wascally wabbit > >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > >> Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 11:30 AM > >> John Reames wrote: > >> > The bunnies that were around my parents > garden > >> preferred the clover to the veggies. > >> > > >> > Now long-legged wood rats LOVE to take the > tops off > >> green beans... > >> > > >> > Thankfully they are tasty too! > >> > >> Venison? > >> > >> Mitch. > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Red squirrels are demonic, and should be shot on sight. Walt On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:41 AM, LWB250 wrote: > I prefer lead poisoning for these pesky rodents. Much the same as I did for > the squirrels who tried to turn my attic into a condo a few years back. > > Dan > > > --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Mitch Haley wrote: > >> From: Mitch Haley >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 11:30 AM >> John Reames wrote: >> > The bunnies that were around my parents garden >> preferred the clover to the veggies. >> > >> > Now long-legged wood rats LOVE to take the tops off >> green beans... >> > >> > Thankfully they are tasty too! >> >> Venison? >> >> Mitch. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
I prefer lead poisoning for these pesky rodents. Much the same as I did for the squirrels who tried to turn my attic into a condo a few years back. Dan --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Mitch Haley wrote: > From: Mitch Haley > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 11:30 AM > John Reames wrote: > > The bunnies that were around my parents garden > preferred the clover to the veggies. > > > > Now long-legged wood rats LOVE to take the tops off > green beans... > > > > Thankfully they are tasty too! > > Venison? > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
John Reames wrote: The bunnies that were around my parents garden preferred the clover to the veggies. Now long-legged wood rats LOVE to take the tops off green beans... Thankfully they are tasty too! Venison? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
The bunnies that were around my parents garden preferred the clover to the veggies. Now long-legged wood rats LOVE to take the tops off green beans... Thankfully they are tasty too! -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 26, 2011, at 9:47, andrew strasfogel wrote: > Clover?? We call that "lawn" around here! Are you saying rabbits > *avoid*patches of clover, or that clover is > *more delicious* than carrot tops? > > I have sprinkled the dried predator blood aorund the garden but it loses its > effectiveness after a rain. > > Keep those suggestions coming! > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:04 AM, John Reames wrote: > >> What about sprinkling things with blood meal as a repellant? >> >> How about letting some big patches of clover grow? >> >> -- >> John W Reames >> jream...@verizon.net >> Home: +14106646986 >> Mobile: +14437915905 >> >> On Apr 25, 2011, at 16:30, andrew strasfogel >> wrote: >> >>> The d*mned cottontail rabbit left us alone last year but this year is in >> the >>> back yard every morning, grazing the weeds and patiently waiting for my >>> veggies (especially soybeands) to emerge so he can nip them off at ground >>> level. This furry vandal has no redeeming qualities. >>> >>> I set a trap to snare him but he was completely unmoved by my choice of >> bait >>> (carrots, fresh lettuce, melon pieces). What could possibly entice him? >>> This is a savvy, well fed urban wabbit, not a naive country bumpkin. >>> >>> TIA, >>> >>> Andrew >>> 1983 and 1985 300CD and 300TDs >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
There's always the option of hosting a frat party enery other week and telling the attendees to meditate on nature near the garden... High nitrogen fertilizer, haha. Walt, who can't stop laughing now... On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:47 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > Clover?? We call that "lawn" around here! Are you saying rabbits > *avoid*patches of clover, or that clover is > *more delicious* than carrot tops? > > I have sprinkled the dried predator blood aorund the garden but it loses its > effectiveness after a rain. > > Keep those suggestions coming! > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:04 AM, John Reames wrote: > >> What about sprinkling things with blood meal as a repellant? >> >> How about letting some big patches of clover grow? >> >> -- >> John W Reames >> jream...@verizon.net >> Home: +14106646986 >> Mobile: +14437915905 >> >> On Apr 25, 2011, at 16:30, andrew strasfogel >> wrote: >> >> > The d*mned cottontail rabbit left us alone last year but this year is in >> the >> > back yard every morning, grazing the weeds and patiently waiting for my >> > veggies (especially soybeands) to emerge so he can nip them off at ground >> > level. This furry vandal has no redeeming qualities. >> > >> > I set a trap to snare him but he was completely unmoved by my choice of >> bait >> > (carrots, fresh lettuce, melon pieces). What could possibly entice him? >> > This is a savvy, well fed urban wabbit, not a naive country bumpkin. >> > >> > TIA, >> > >> > Andrew >> > 1983 and 1985 300CD and 300TDs >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Clover?? We call that "lawn" around here! Are you saying rabbits *avoid*patches of clover, or that clover is *more delicious* than carrot tops? I have sprinkled the dried predator blood aorund the garden but it loses its effectiveness after a rain. Keep those suggestions coming! On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:04 AM, John Reames wrote: > What about sprinkling things with blood meal as a repellant? > > How about letting some big patches of clover grow? > > -- > John W Reames > jream...@verizon.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > On Apr 25, 2011, at 16:30, andrew strasfogel > wrote: > > > The d*mned cottontail rabbit left us alone last year but this year is in > the > > back yard every morning, grazing the weeds and patiently waiting for my > > veggies (especially soybeands) to emerge so he can nip them off at ground > > level. This furry vandal has no redeeming qualities. > > > > I set a trap to snare him but he was completely unmoved by my choice of > bait > > (carrots, fresh lettuce, melon pieces). What could possibly entice him? > > This is a savvy, well fed urban wabbit, not a naive country bumpkin. > > > > TIA, > > > > Andrew > > 1983 and 1985 300CD and 300TDs > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
On the pineapple/mango, not really, nanners, hell yeah, that's like crack for rabbits! I say learn to live with em if you can, they really are freaking cute when they start clearing out the dandelions! Walt On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:05 AM, John Reames wrote: > Try bananas, both fresh and dehydrated. Other options might be dehydrated > pineapple and/or mango. > > > -- > John W Reames > jream...@verizon.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > On Apr 25, 2011, at 16:30, andrew strasfogel wrote: > >> The d*mned cottontail rabbit left us alone last year but this year is in the >> back yard every morning, grazing the weeds and patiently waiting for my >> veggies (especially soybeands) to emerge so he can nip them off at ground >> level. This furry vandal has no redeeming qualities. >> >> I set a trap to snare him but he was completely unmoved by my choice of bait >> (carrots, fresh lettuce, melon pieces). What could possibly entice him? >> This is a savvy, well fed urban wabbit, not a naive country bumpkin. >> >> TIA, >> >> Andrew >> 1983 and 1985 300CD and 300TDs >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Try bananas, both fresh and dehydrated. Other options might be dehydrated pineapple and/or mango. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 25, 2011, at 16:30, andrew strasfogel wrote: > The d*mned cottontail rabbit left us alone last year but this year is in the > back yard every morning, grazing the weeds and patiently waiting for my > veggies (especially soybeands) to emerge so he can nip them off at ground > level. This furry vandal has no redeeming qualities. > > I set a trap to snare him but he was completely unmoved by my choice of bait > (carrots, fresh lettuce, melon pieces). What could possibly entice him? > This is a savvy, well fed urban wabbit, not a naive country bumpkin. > > TIA, > > Andrew > 1983 and 1985 300CD and 300TDs > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
What about sprinkling things with blood meal as a repellant? How about letting some big patches of clover grow? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 25, 2011, at 16:30, andrew strasfogel wrote: > The d*mned cottontail rabbit left us alone last year but this year is in the > back yard every morning, grazing the weeds and patiently waiting for my > veggies (especially soybeands) to emerge so he can nip them off at ground > level. This furry vandal has no redeeming qualities. > > I set a trap to snare him but he was completely unmoved by my choice of bait > (carrots, fresh lettuce, melon pieces). What could possibly entice him? > This is a savvy, well fed urban wabbit, not a naive country bumpkin. > > TIA, > > Andrew > 1983 and 1985 300CD and 300TDs > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
My mom also uses this concoction of Tabasco, egg, black pepper, vinegar, and water to deter the cotonbottoms from getting into the non-fenced section of the garden with the taters and squash. I think it was 2 eggs, half a cup of Tabasco, quarter cup black pepper, a few cups of vinegar, and mix with water in a gallon jug. Seems to have worked great. Walt On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Lee wrote: > Agreed. > > A couple of years ago, a rancher came to me asking how she could control > the gopher epidemic on her property without poison. > > "Weird," I said, "that the snakes and coyotes aren't doing the job for you." > > "Coyotes?" She replied. "Hell, we shot all of them." > > Mother Nature is the original gardener, and she's been at it for a > billion years plus. Cooperate with her and things will go smoothly. > Fight her and, after a long and costly conflict, you will lose. > > Predator piss will tend to keep the wee beasties away. You can buy fox > urine for this purpose online. > > Lee > > > Fmiser wrote: >>> Rich Thomas wrote: >>> >> >> >>> Pellet gun, crossbow (more challenging), poison, or a pet >>> eagle or hawk. >>> >> >> Please not poison. >> >> A reason the rabbits are a problem is too few predators... >> >> And since the poisoned animal will attract the attention of the >> predators that are around... >> >> And since the poison will likely kill the predator too... >> >> Please avoid poison if there is any other method that will work. >> >> -- Philip >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Agreed. A couple of years ago, a rancher came to me asking how she could control the gopher epidemic on her property without poison. "Weird," I said, "that the snakes and coyotes aren't doing the job for you." "Coyotes?" She replied. "Hell, we shot all of them." Mother Nature is the original gardener, and she's been at it for a billion years plus. Cooperate with her and things will go smoothly. Fight her and, after a long and costly conflict, you will lose. Predator piss will tend to keep the wee beasties away. You can buy fox urine for this purpose online. Lee Fmiser wrote: >> Rich Thomas wrote: >> > > >> Pellet gun, crossbow (more challenging), poison, or a pet >> eagle or hawk. >> > > Please not poison. > > A reason the rabbits are a problem is too few predators... > > And since the poisoned animal will attract the attention of the > predators that are around... > > And since the poison will likely kill the predator too... > > Please avoid poison if there is any other method that will work. > > -- Philip > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
I saw a very nice air rifle with scope at Wallyworld the other day. Shot through an open window from five or ten feet into the room, no one but the rabbit, you and your girl will know. Find a nice recipe for rabbit. Repeat as needed. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High & dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: andrew strasfogel To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 4:30:12 PM Subject: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit The d*mned cottontail rabbit left us alone last year but this year is in the back yard every morning, grazing the weeds and patiently waiting for my veggies (especially soybeands) to emerge so he can nip them off at ground level. This furry vandal has no redeeming qualities. I set a trap to snare him but he was completely unmoved by my choice of bait (carrots, fresh lettuce, melon pieces). What could possibly entice him? This is a savvy, well fed urban wabbit, not a naive country bumpkin. TIA, Andrew 1983 and 1985 300CD and 300TDs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Agreed, they really aren't that bad if you fence in the garden with chicken wire, and they can be intoxicatingly cute! Walt On Apr 26, 2011 3:51 AM, "Fmiser" wrote: >> Rich Thomas wrote: > >> Pellet gun, crossbow (more challenging), poison, or a pet >> eagle or hawk. > > Please not poison. > > A reason the rabbits are a problem is too few predators... > > And since the poisoned animal will attract the attention of the > predators that are around... > > And since the poison will likely kill the predator too... > > Please avoid poison if there is any other method that will work. > > -- Philip > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Ring the govenmentors and inform them that you suspect the rabbit of being an al quida operative. They'll come and take it away for a little chat. Hendrik who thinks some of the possums in the roof are acting suspicious Fmiser wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Pellet gun, crossbow (more challenging), poison, or a pet eagle or hawk. Please not poison. A reason the rabbits are a problem is too few predators... And since the poisoned animal will attract the attention of the predators that are around... And since the poison will likely kill the predator too... Please avoid poison if there is any other method that will work. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
> Rich Thomas wrote: > Pellet gun, crossbow (more challenging), poison, or a pet > eagle or hawk. Please not poison. A reason the rabbits are a problem is too few predators... And since the poisoned animal will attract the attention of the predators that are around... And since the poison will likely kill the predator too... Please avoid poison if there is any other method that will work. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Either, as long as they aren't sugared, flavored, etc. Walt On Apr 25, 2011 11:15 PM, "andrew strasfogel" wrote: > Instant oats or old fashioned Irish oatmeal oats that take 30 minutes? > > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: > >> Oh, non-sweetened shredded wheat and rolled oats are rabbit magnets as >> well. >> >> Walt >> >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Curt Raymond >> wrote: >> > Yeah I was going to say potato chips. The salt drives them wild. >> > >> > -Curt >> > >> > Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:15:04 -0400 >> > From: Walt Zarnoch >> > To: Mercedes Discussion List >> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally >> > wabbit >> > Message-ID: >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> > >> > Live trap with cheerios and saltine crackers inside. >> > >> > Walt >> > On Apr 25, 2011 5:03 PM, "andrew strasfogel" >> wrote: >> >> No firearms may be used. That would be too easy. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Greg Fiorentino < >> gf...@dslnorthwest.net >> >>wrote: >> >> >> >>> Cottontails have at least one redeeming quality: they taste good. >> >>> >> >>> Greg >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Instant oats or old fashioned Irish oatmeal oats that take 30 minutes? On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: > Oh, non-sweetened shredded wheat and rolled oats are rabbit magnets as > well. > > Walt > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Curt Raymond > wrote: > > Yeah I was going to say potato chips. The salt drives them wild. > > > > -Curt > > > > Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:15:04 -0400 > > From: Walt Zarnoch > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally > >wabbit > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Live trap with cheerios and saltine crackers inside. > > > > Walt > > On Apr 25, 2011 5:03 PM, "andrew strasfogel" > wrote: > >> No firearms may be used. That would be too easy. > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Greg Fiorentino < > gf...@dslnorthwest.net > >>wrote: > >> > >>> Cottontails have at least one redeeming quality: they taste good. > >>> > >>> Greg > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Oh, non-sweetened shredded wheat and rolled oats are rabbit magnets as well. Walt On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > Yeah I was going to say potato chips. The salt drives them wild. > > -Curt > > Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:15:04 -0400 > From: Walt Zarnoch > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally > wabbit > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Live trap with cheerios and saltine crackers inside. > > Walt > On Apr 25, 2011 5:03 PM, "andrew strasfogel" wrote: >> No firearms may be used. That would be too easy. >> >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Greg Fiorentino >wrote: >> >>> Cottontails have at least one redeeming quality: they taste good. >>> >>> Greg > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Yeah I was going to say potato chips. The salt drives them wild. -Curt Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:15:04 -0400 From: Walt Zarnoch To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Live trap with cheerios and saltine crackers inside. Walt On Apr 25, 2011 5:03 PM, "andrew strasfogel" wrote: > No firearms may be used. That would be too easy. > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: > >> Cottontails have at least one redeeming quality: they taste good. >> >> Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
.22 with sub-sonic rounds. http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/detail.aspx?use=3&loadNo=0026 Rick Sent from my iPhone On Apr 25, 2011, at 3:30 PM, "andrew strasfogel" wrote: > The d*mned cottontail rabbit left us alone last year but this year is in the > back yard every morning, grazing the weeds and patiently waiting for my > veggies (especially soybeands) to emerge so he can nip them off at ground > level. This furry vandal has no redeeming qualities. > > I set a trap to snare him but he was completely unmoved by my choice of bait > (carrots, fresh lettuce, melon pieces). What could possibly entice him? > This is a savvy, well fed urban wabbit, not a naive country bumpkin. > > TIA, > > Andrew > 1983 and 1985 300CD and 300TDs > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Pellet gun, crossbow (more challenging), poison, or a pet eagle or hawk. Cats seem to like them too. When I was a kid we had one make a nest in the backyard (this in the city). I would feed it old apples from the basket in the basement, it ate one every night, then had 4 babies which went scampering off from the hole one day when my dad was mowing (did not get any wabbits). You might want to try that tactic, get it nice and friendly, then WHAM!!! --R On 4/25/2011 5:03 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: No firearms may be used. That would be too easy. On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Greg Fiorentinowrote: Cottontails have at least one redeeming quality: they taste good. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit The d*mned cottontail rabbit left us alone last year but this year is in the back yard every morning, grazing the weeds and patiently waiting for my veggies (especially soybeands) to emerge so he can nip them off at ground level. This furry vandal has no redeeming qualities. I set a trap to snare him but he was completely unmoved by my choice of bait (carrots, fresh lettuce, melon pieces). What could possibly entice him? This is a savvy, well fed urban wabbit, not a naive country bumpkin. TIA, Andrew 1983 and 1985 300CD and 300TDs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Fencing - chickenwire or the like perhaps. Where there is one rabbit, there will be others. Not likely going to trap them all. Randy On 25/04/2011 3:30 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: The d*mned cottontail rabbit left us alone last year but this year is in the back yard every morning, grazing the weeds and patiently waiting for my veggies (especially soybeands) to emerge so he can nip them off at ground level. This furry vandal has no redeeming qualities. I set a trap to snare him but he was completely unmoved by my choice of bait (carrots, fresh lettuce, melon pieces). What could possibly entice him? This is a savvy, well fed urban wabbit, not a naive country bumpkin. TIA, Andrew 1983 and 1985 300CD and 300TDs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Live trap with cheerios and saltine crackers inside. Walt On Apr 25, 2011 5:03 PM, "andrew strasfogel" wrote: > No firearms may be used. That would be too easy. > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: > >> Cottontails have at least one redeeming quality: they taste good. >> >> Greg >> >> -Original Message- >> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com ] >> On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel >> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:30 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit >> >> The d*mned cottontail rabbit left us alone last year but this year is in >> the >> back yard every morning, grazing the weeds and patiently waiting for my >> veggies (especially soybeands) to emerge so he can nip them off at ground >> level. This furry vandal has no redeeming qualities. >> >> I set a trap to snare him but he was completely unmoved by my choice of >> bait >> (carrots, fresh lettuce, melon pieces). What could possibly entice him? >> This is a savvy, well fed urban wabbit, not a naive country bumpkin. >> >> TIA, >> >> Andrew >> 1983 and 1985 300CD and 300TDs >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
No firearms may be used. That would be too easy. On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: > Cottontails have at least one redeeming quality: they taste good. > > Greg > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:30 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit > > The d*mned cottontail rabbit left us alone last year but this year is in > the > back yard every morning, grazing the weeds and patiently waiting for my > veggies (especially soybeands) to emerge so he can nip them off at ground > level. This furry vandal has no redeeming qualities. > > I set a trap to snare him but he was completely unmoved by my choice of > bait > (carrots, fresh lettuce, melon pieces). What could possibly entice him? > This is a savvy, well fed urban wabbit, not a naive country bumpkin. > > TIA, > > Andrew > 1983 and 1985 300CD and 300TDs > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
A .22 or even a powerful pellet gun should do the job. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit Shotgun oughta take car of him. On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:30 -0400, "andrew strasfogel" wrote: > The d*mned cottontail rabbit left us alone last year but this year is in the > back yard every morning, grazing the weeds and patiently waiting for my > veggies (especially soybeands) to emerge so he can nip them off at ground > level. This furry vandal has no redeeming qualities. > > I set a trap to snare him but he was completely unmoved by my choice of bait > (carrots, fresh lettuce, melon pieces). What could possibly entice him? > This is a savvy, well fed urban wabbit, not a naive country bumpkin. > > TIA, > > Andrew > 1983 and 1985 300CD and 300TDs > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Cottontails have at least one redeeming quality: they taste good. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 1:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit The d*mned cottontail rabbit left us alone last year but this year is in the back yard every morning, grazing the weeds and patiently waiting for my veggies (especially soybeands) to emerge so he can nip them off at ground level. This furry vandal has no redeeming qualities. I set a trap to snare him but he was completely unmoved by my choice of bait (carrots, fresh lettuce, melon pieces). What could possibly entice him? This is a savvy, well fed urban wabbit, not a naive country bumpkin. TIA, Andrew 1983 and 1985 300CD and 300TDs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
Shotgun oughta take car of him. On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:30 -0400, "andrew strasfogel" wrote: > The d*mned cottontail rabbit left us alone last year but this year is in the > back yard every morning, grazing the weeds and patiently waiting for my > veggies (especially soybeands) to emerge so he can nip them off at ground > level. This furry vandal has no redeeming qualities. > > I set a trap to snare him but he was completely unmoved by my choice of bait > (carrots, fresh lettuce, melon pieces). What could possibly entice him? > This is a savvy, well fed urban wabbit, not a naive country bumpkin. > > TIA, > > Andrew > 1983 and 1985 300CD and 300TDs > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Beyond OT: How to bait a trap to catch a wascally wabbit
The d*mned cottontail rabbit left us alone last year but this year is in the back yard every morning, grazing the weeds and patiently waiting for my veggies (especially soybeands) to emerge so he can nip them off at ground level. This furry vandal has no redeeming qualities. I set a trap to snare him but he was completely unmoved by my choice of bait (carrots, fresh lettuce, melon pieces). What could possibly entice him? This is a savvy, well fed urban wabbit, not a naive country bumpkin. TIA, Andrew 1983 and 1985 300CD and 300TDs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
