Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
Yeah. Now to get rid of those awful looking wheels. Bundts are going on it today. Mike On May 3, 2011 11:22 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 2 May 2011 12:08:40 -0400 Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think the 78 has that sensor. But it's a hole. I can make holes. Here is a pic of the headlight progress. Yup, that's progress! :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
The hole for the AC temp sensor in the middle of the dash. This can be gotten around I am sure although I would really look for the facelift version, it *should* last longer. -Rolf On 05/02/2011 09:41 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Rolf, What hole is it missing? The dash in my 83 is cracked bad, the 78 is not cracked at all. I don't think the texture really matters to me. I thought they looked the same. Thanks, Mike On May 1, 2011 11:55 PM, Rolfr...@winmutt.com wrote: Stop It wont fit. It is missing the hole in the dash. It is also a different texture AND the earlier styles are more prone to cracking. -Rolf On 5/1/2011 10:56 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Thanks to everyone. As long as the weather is nice out I am going to give it a shot in the morning. Looks pretty easy really. The CD has a great dash with near perfect burlwood trim. Finding matching burlwood pieces for the center console and heater control should be fun Started changing the 300D over to the H4 Euro headlights today as well. I found the plugs are different. Does anyone know if I can just swap out plugs from car to car or if there is anything else that goes with the Euro lights(relays or the like) that might make the swap harder than it looks? Thanks, Mike On May 1, 2011 5:40 PM, WILTONwilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I like the puller too - usually simple, fast and easy, but removing inst cluster on my 124 3 years ago for the evapectomy was quite an ordeal. 'Turned out it had become glued very securely in place with an excess of factory glue that had squeezed out between the cluster and the dash and didn't want to release its hold without a fight. With skill and cunning, though, I got it out, anyway - I don't give up easily. Other clusters I've removed (my 2 123's, my 124 and, now, my 124) come out very nicely with the coathanger puller. I don't like getting into the footwell, either - much rather sit up comfortably in the seat. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? That works, too. I just found this a bit easier to use if you didn't want to have to pull the bolster. I hate having to get down in the footwell... and I have come across a few clusters that would not come out easily, too. Dan - Original Message - From: Craigdiese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2011 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? That said, I have never needed to use a tool to get the instrument cluster out. All I have ever done is to remove the panel below the dash and push the cluster frontwards from the rear. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
I am not concerned with how long it lasts. It is way better than what I have and I already own it. It will look better than what is there. Mike On May 3, 2011 3:49 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: The hole for the AC temp sensor in the middle of the dash. This can be gotten around I am sure although I would really look for the facelift version, it *should* last longer. -Rolf On 05/02/2011 09:41 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Rolf, What hole is it missing? The dash in my 83 is cracked bad, the 78 is not cracked at all. I don't think the texture really matters to me. I thought they looked the same. Thanks, Mike On May 1, 2011 11:55 PM, Rolfr...@winmutt.com wrote: Stop It wont fit. It is missing the hole in the dash. It is also a different texture AND the earlier styles are more prone to cracking. -Rolf On 5/1/2011 10:56 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Thanks to everyone. As long as the weather is nice out I am going to give it a shot in the morning. Looks pretty easy really. The CD has a great dash with near perfect burlwood trim. Finding matching burlwood pieces for the center console and heater control should be fun Started changing the 300D over to the H4 Euro headlights today as well. I found the plugs are different. Does anyone know if I can just swap out plugs from car to car or if there is anything else that goes with the Euro lights(relays or the like) that might make the swap harder than it looks? Thanks, Mike On May 1, 2011 5:40 PM, WILTONwilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I like the puller too - usually simple, fast and easy, but removing inst cluster on my 124 3 years ago for the evapectomy was quite an ordeal. 'Turned out it had become glued very securely in place with an excess of factory glue that had squeezed out between the cluster and the dash and didn't want to release its hold without a fight. With skill and cunning, though, I got it out, anyway - I don't give up easily. Other clusters I've removed (my 2 123's, my 124 and, now, my 124) come out very nicely with the coathanger puller. I don't like getting into the footwell, either - much rather sit up comfortably in the seat. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? That works, too. I just found this a bit easier to use if you didn't want to have to pull the bolster. I hate having to get down in the footwell... and I have come across a few clusters that would not come out easily, too. Dan - Original Message - From: Craigdiese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2011 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? That said, I have never needed to use a tool to get the instrument cluster out. All I have ever done is to remove the panel below the dash and push the cluster frontwards from the rear. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
Use it, and if you need the hole, you can probably cut it and use the hole cover/grommet from the old one. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? I am not concerned with how long it lasts. It is way better than what I have and I already own it. It will look better than what is there. Mike On May 3, 2011 3:49 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: The hole for the AC temp sensor in the middle of the dash. This can be gotten around I am sure although I would really look for the facelift version, it *should* last longer. -Rolf On 05/02/2011 09:41 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Rolf, What hole is it missing? The dash in my 83 is cracked bad, the 78 is not cracked at all. I don't think the texture really matters to me. I thought they looked the same. Thanks, Mike On May 1, 2011 11:55 PM, Rolfr...@winmutt.com wrote: Stop It wont fit. It is missing the hole in the dash. It is also a different texture AND the earlier styles are more prone to cracking. -Rolf On 5/1/2011 10:56 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Thanks to everyone. As long as the weather is nice out I am going to give it a shot in the morning. Looks pretty easy really. The CD has a great dash with near perfect burlwood trim. Finding matching burlwood pieces for the center console and heater control should be fun Started changing the 300D over to the H4 Euro headlights today as well. I found the plugs are different. Does anyone know if I can just swap out plugs from car to car or if there is anything else that goes with the Euro lights(relays or the like) that might make the swap harder than it looks? Thanks, Mike On May 1, 2011 5:40 PM, WILTONwilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I like the puller too - usually simple, fast and easy, but removing inst cluster on my 124 3 years ago for the evapectomy was quite an ordeal. 'Turned out it had become glued very securely in place with an excess of factory glue that had squeezed out between the cluster and the dash and didn't want to release its hold without a fight. With skill and cunning, though, I got it out, anyway - I don't give up easily. Other clusters I've removed (my 2 123's, my 124 and, now, my 124) come out very nicely with the coathanger puller. I don't like getting into the footwell, either - much rather sit up comfortably in the seat. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? That works, too. I just found this a bit easier to use if you didn't want to have to pull the bolster. I hate having to get down in the footwell... and I have come across a few clusters that would not come out easily, too. Dan - Original Message - From: Craigdiese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2011 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? That said, I have never needed to use a tool to get the instrument cluster out. All I have ever done is to remove the panel below the dash and push the cluster frontwards from the rear. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
I don't think the 78 has that sensor. But it's a hole. I can make holes. Here is a pic of the headlight progress. Mike On May 2, 2011 10:14 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Does anyone know if I can just swap out plugs from car to car or if there is anything else that goes with the Euro lights(relays or the like) that might make the swap harder than it looks? If you can re-pin the connectors you should be home free. There are no relays. Try not to mess up what's there, it may be that someday you want to sell the car but keep the lights for a different (better?) one. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMAG0391.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1030689 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20110502/6b46c5d5/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
On Mon, 2 May 2011 12:08:40 -0400 Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think the 78 has that sensor. But it's a hole. I can make holes. Here is a pic of the headlight progress. Yup, that's progress! :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
Rolf, What hole is it missing? The dash in my 83 is cracked bad, the 78 is not cracked at all. I don't think the texture really matters to me. I thought they looked the same. Thanks, Mike On May 1, 2011 11:55 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: Stop It wont fit. It is missing the hole in the dash. It is also a different texture AND the earlier styles are more prone to cracking. -Rolf On 5/1/2011 10:56 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Thanks to everyone. As long as the weather is nice out I am going to give it a shot in the morning. Looks pretty easy really. The CD has a great dash with near perfect burlwood trim. Finding matching burlwood pieces for the center console and heater control should be fun Started changing the 300D over to the H4 Euro headlights today as well. I found the plugs are different. Does anyone know if I can just swap out plugs from car to car or if there is anything else that goes with the Euro lights(relays or the like) that might make the swap harder than it looks? Thanks, Mike On May 1, 2011 5:40 PM, WILTONwilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I like the puller too - usually simple, fast and easy, but removing inst cluster on my 124 3 years ago for the evapectomy was quite an ordeal. 'Turned out it had become glued very securely in place with an excess of factory glue that had squeezed out between the cluster and the dash and didn't want to release its hold without a fight. With skill and cunning, though, I got it out, anyway - I don't give up easily. Other clusters I've removed (my 2 123's, my 124 and, now, my 124) come out very nicely with the coathanger puller. I don't like getting into the footwell, either - much rather sit up comfortably in the seat. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? That works, too. I just found this a bit easier to use if you didn't want to have to pull the bolster. I hate having to get down in the footwell... and I have come across a few clusters that would not come out easily, too. Dan - Original Message - From: Craigdiese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2011 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? That said, I have never needed to use a tool to get the instrument cluster out. All I have ever done is to remove the panel below the dash and push the cluster frontwards from the rear. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
What hole is it missing? Do both dashes have the hole in the top for the HVAC cabin temperature sensor? I think a dash swap is straightforward, but quite the PITA due to all the stuff you have to remove to get it out of the way. Never done a 123, but I've had dashes out of more 107's than I care to think of. (And another one due soon, the windshield wipers are loose, and the HVAC pods are wacky.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
Does anyone know if I can just swap out plugs from car to car or if there is anything else that goes with the Euro lights(relays or the like) that might make the swap harder than it looks? If you can re-pin the connectors you should be home free. There are no relays. Try not to mess up what's there, it may be that someday you want to sell the car but keep the lights for a different (better?) one. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
I re-pinned numerous headlight plugs over the years. MB wiring harness plugs are easy to work on with a good soldering iron and quality solder. The plugs are designed to be repairable, so they are easy to pen and extract all the parts. Dan Sent from my iPod On May 2, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Does anyone know if I can just swap out plugs from car to car or if there is anything else that goes with the Euro lights(relays or the like) that might make the swap harder than it looks? If you can re-pin the connectors you should be home free. There are no relays. Try not to mess up what's there, it may be that someday you want to sell the car but keep the lights for a different (better?) one. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Plugs look simple enough to work with after checking them out. I just got looking at my headlights and found out that they have the vacuum adjustment system in them. VERY cool, if I can make them work. Any wise words on that? Thanks again, Mike On May 2, 2011 12:48 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I re-pinned numerous headlight plugs over the years. MB wiring harness plugs are easy to work on with a good soldering iron and quality solder. The plugs are designed to be repairable, so they are easy to pen and extract all the parts. Dan Sent from my iPod On May 2, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Does anyone know if I can just swap out plugs from car to car or if there is anything else that goes with the Euro lights(relays or the like) that might make the swap harder than it looks? If you can re-pin the connectors you should be home free. There are no relays. Try not to mess up what's there, it may be that someday you want to sell the car but keep the lights for a different (better?) one. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Michael Canfield wrote: Plugs look simple enough to work with after checking them out. I just got looking at my headlights and found out that they have the vacuum adjustment system in them. VERY cool, if I can make them work. Any wise words on that? Send Rusty what, $80, for the headlight switch with the vac level knob incorporated? Join the Banned list and talk Alex into going to a Swiss Pick-N-Pull to get one? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, 2 May 2011 07:26:04 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Does anyone know if I can just swap out plugs from car to car or if there is anything else that goes with the Euro lights(relays or the like) that might make the swap harder than it looks? If you can re-pin the connectors you should be home free. Yes, I've done it myself. There are no relays. Try not to mess up what's there, it may be that someday you want to sell the car but keep the lights for a different (better?) one. The easiest way is to take the cover off a connector and take a close-up picture of the way it was, and then transfer the wires to the new connector. Most likely the old one will be 4 contact and the new one will be six contact. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
On Mon, 2 May 2011 12:46:32 -0400 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I re-pinned numerous headlight plugs over the years. MB wiring harness plugs are easy to work on with a good soldering iron and quality solder. The plugs are designed to be repairable, so they are easy to pen and extract all the parts. When I changed from our '82 240D/3.0's US headlights to Euro headlights, I did not need a soldering iron. All I did was remove the wired contacts from the original 4-pin housing and put them in the correct order in a 6-pin housing. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
Ok. So the headlights are in. Seems only the passenger side has all of the vacuum parts so I will eventually get them all and make that work. All I had to do was to put the pins in the correct plug like has been said here and add a pigtail to the marker lights so the cool little markers in the headlights work too. A little time consuming but remarkably easy to do. Changing out the grille from the coupe as well as it is a bit nicer. Thinking of painting all of the grey slats black. I think it will look sharp with the Euro lights and black body color. Oh how nice it is to work on a well engineered piece of machinery with nearly no rust after working on my rusty Subaru. Mike On May 2, 2011 4:11 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 2 May 2011 12:46:32 -0400 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I re-pinned numerous headlight plugs over the years. MB wiring harness plugs are easy to work on with a good soldering iron and quality solder. The plugs are designed to be repairable, so they are easy to pen and extract all the parts. When I changed from our '82 240D/3.0's US headlights to Euro headlights, I did not need a soldering iron. All I did was remove the wired contacts from the original 4-pin housing and put them in the correct order in a 6-pin housing. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123?
On Mon, 2 May 2011 16:48:07 -0400 Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. So the headlights are in. Seems only the passenger side has all of the vacuum parts so I will eventually get them all and make that work. All I had to do was to put the pins in the correct plug like has been said here and add a pigtail to the marker lights so the cool little markers in the headlights work too. H ... I'll have to check on the marker lights when my right hand heals up from the surgery and gets back to normal. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I was thinking about this, and the reason I was thinking about pins and soldering was because I always added the city light circuit. I don't think this was standard on the US spec cars. Dan Sent from my iPod On May 2, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 2 May 2011 12:46:32 -0400 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I re-pinned numerous headlight plugs over the years. MB wiring harness plugs are easy to work on with a good soldering iron and quality solder. The plugs are designed to be repairable, so they are easy to pen and extract all the parts. When I changed from our '82 240D/3.0's US headlights to Euro headlights, I did not need a soldering iron. All I did was remove the wired contacts from the original 4-pin housing and put them in the correct order in a 6-pin housing. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, 2 May 2011 17:31:23 -0400 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I was thinking about this, and the reason I was thinking about pins and soldering was because I always added the city light circuit. I don't think this was standard on the US spec cars. Oh. What is the city light circuit, and how does it work/how is it used? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I,am assuming the city light feature is the little bulbs in the actual headlight. I wired them the same way they were in the coupe and they don't come on. Ran out of time to check the bulbs. Mike On May 2, 2011 5:43 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 2 May 2011 17:31:23 -0400 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I was thinking about this, and the reason I was thinking about pins and soldering was because I always added the city light circuit. I don't think this was standard on the US spec cars. Oh. What is the city light circuit, and how does it work/how is it used? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dan Penoff wrote: I was thinking about this, and the reason I was thinking about pins and soldering was because I always added the city light circuit. I don't think this was standard on the US spec cars. Craig wrote: Oh. What is the city light circuit, and how does it work/how is it used? I believe city lights are bright parking lights. That is, enough to locate and identify the front of the car, but really depends on street lights for actual illumination. But maybe I'm remembering wrong... --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Change dash in 123?
I have a 79 300CD with a perfect dash, I want to put it in my 83 300D. How bad of a job is it? Any tips or tricks? Like how to get the instrument cluster out.. Thanks in advance, Mike On May 1, 2011 11:45 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: your a looser --R On 4/30/2011 11:45 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote: It will probably loose oil out the front. There's nothing worse than LOOSE oil!! Watch where you step, and don't let your foot slip off the break petal :D. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mike, I just e-mailed pdf for inst cluster and inst panel/dash removal to you off list. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? I have a 79 300CD with a perfect dash, I want to put it in my 83 300D. How bad of a job is it? Any tips or tricks? Like how to get the instrument cluster out.. Thanks in advance, Mike On May 1, 2011 11:45 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: your a looser --R On 4/30/2011 11:45 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote: It will probably loose oil out the front. There's nothing worse than LOOSE oil!! Watch where you step, and don't let your foot slip off the break petal :D. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Here is a link to an image of a cluster puller made out of a piece of coat hanger: http://gallery.me.com/dpenoff#100286/hooktoolbgcolor=black Stick this in between the cluster and the dash, rotate to engage the hook, and pull. You may have to alternate this from one side to another to get the cluster out if it's really tight. Dan - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2011 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? Mike, I just e-mailed pdf for inst cluster and inst panel/dash removal to you off list. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 2:53 PM Subject: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? I have a 79 300CD with a perfect dash, I want to put it in my 83 300D. How bad of a job is it? Any tips or tricks? Like how to get the instrument cluster out.. Thanks in advance, Mike On May 1, 2011 11:45 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: your a looser --R On 4/30/2011 11:45 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote: It will probably loose oil out the front. There's nothing worse than LOOSE oil!! Watch where you step, and don't let your foot slip off the break petal :D. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, 1 May 2011 13:11:53 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Here is a link to an image of a cluster puller made out of a piece of coat hanger: http://gallery.me.com/dpenoff#100286/hooktoolbgcolor=black Stick this in between the cluster and the dash, rotate to engage the hook, and pull. You may have to alternate this from one side to another to get the cluster out if it's really tight. That said, I have never needed to use a tool to get the instrument cluster out. All I have ever done is to remove the panel below the dash and push the cluster frontwards from the rear. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That works, too. I just found this a bit easier to use if you didn't want to have to pull the bolster. I hate having to get down in the footwell... and I have come across a few clusters that would not come out easily, too. Dan - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2011 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? That said, I have never needed to use a tool to get the instrument cluster out. All I have ever done is to remove the panel below the dash and push the cluster frontwards from the rear. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I like the puller too - usually simple, fast and easy, but removing inst cluster on my 124 3 years ago for the evapectomy was quite an ordeal. 'Turned out it had become glued very securely in place with an excess of factory glue that had squeezed out between the cluster and the dash and didn't want to release its hold without a fight. With skill and cunning, though, I got it out, anyway - I don't give up easily. Other clusters I've removed (my 2 123's, my 124 and, now, my 124) come out very nicely with the coathanger puller. I don't like getting into the footwell, either - much rather sit up comfortably in the seat. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? That works, too. I just found this a bit easier to use if you didn't want to have to pull the bolster. I hate having to get down in the footwell... and I have come across a few clusters that would not come out easily, too. Dan - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2011 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? That said, I have never needed to use a tool to get the instrument cluster out. All I have ever done is to remove the panel below the dash and push the cluster frontwards from the rear. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks to everyone. As long as the weather is nice out I am going to give it a shot in the morning. Looks pretty easy really. The CD has a great dash with near perfect burlwood trim. Finding matching burlwood pieces for the center console and heater control should be fun Started changing the 300D over to the H4 Euro headlights today as well. I found the plugs are different. Does anyone know if I can just swap out plugs from car to car or if there is anything else that goes with the Euro lights(relays or the like) that might make the swap harder than it looks? Thanks, Mike On May 1, 2011 5:40 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I like the puller too - usually simple, fast and easy, but removing inst cluster on my 124 3 years ago for the evapectomy was quite an ordeal. 'Turned out it had become glued very securely in place with an excess of factory glue that had squeezed out between the cluster and the dash and didn't want to release its hold without a fight. With skill and cunning, though, I got it out, anyway - I don't give up easily. Other clusters I've removed (my 2 123's, my 124 and, now, my 124) come out very nicely with the coathanger puller. I don't like getting into the footwell, either - much rather sit up comfortably in the seat. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? That works, too. I just found this a bit easier to use if you didn't want to have to pull the bolster. I hate having to get down in the footwell... and I have come across a few clusters that would not come out easily, too. Dan - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2011 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? That said, I have never needed to use a tool to get the instrument cluster out. All I have ever done is to remove the panel below the dash and push the cluster frontwards from the rear. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Stop It wont fit. It is missing the hole in the dash. It is also a different texture AND the earlier styles are more prone to cracking. -Rolf On 5/1/2011 10:56 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Thanks to everyone. As long as the weather is nice out I am going to give it a shot in the morning. Looks pretty easy really. The CD has a great dash with near perfect burlwood trim. Finding matching burlwood pieces for the center console and heater control should be fun Started changing the 300D over to the H4 Euro headlights today as well. I found the plugs are different. Does anyone know if I can just swap out plugs from car to car or if there is anything else that goes with the Euro lights(relays or the like) that might make the swap harder than it looks? Thanks, Mike On May 1, 2011 5:40 PM, WILTONwilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I like the puller too - usually simple, fast and easy, but removing inst cluster on my 124 3 years ago for the evapectomy was quite an ordeal. 'Turned out it had become glued very securely in place with an excess of factory glue that had squeezed out between the cluster and the dash and didn't want to release its hold without a fight. With skill and cunning, though, I got it out, anyway - I don't give up easily. Other clusters I've removed (my 2 123's, my 124 and, now, my 124) come out very nicely with the coathanger puller. I don't like getting into the footwell, either - much rather sit up comfortably in the seat. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? That works, too. I just found this a bit easier to use if you didn't want to have to pull the bolster. I hate having to get down in the footwell... and I have come across a few clusters that would not come out easily, too. Dan - Original Message - From: Craigdiese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2011 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Change dash in 123? That said, I have never needed to use a tool to get the instrument cluster out. All I have ever done is to remove the panel below the dash and push the cluster frontwards from the rear. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
