Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
No inflation means you never get a raise...
If wood has only doubled in price in the last 20 years that's pretty good, look 
at the price of cars...

Curt

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  On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:45 AM, archer75--- via 
Mercedes wrote:   
> > GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER
> > By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)
> > 
> >    
> > The boys were terribly embarrassed that a friend might see
> > them helping Dad scrounge salvaged material.  I told them, "Your
> > friends are not even near this area, so don't be concerned about it,
> > and think about this.  For every stud you put in the van, that's 50
> > cents we're getting for nothing."
> 
> Boy, don't we all wish studs were still 50 cents now!
> Craig

So true! Bought them for a dollar 20 years ago. $2.00 now.
When the U.S. was on the real gold standard there was no inflation, but that 
was around 80-100 years ago. I think Switzerland is still (sort of) on the gold 
standard.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-10 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes 
True, but it's "buying power" is never based on deliberate governmental 
devalutation (inflation) like the dollar. Over time, the averaged price of gold 
continues to increase in value. For example, the gold that a friend bought in 
the 1980s is now worth four times what he paid for it, and at one time was 
worth 6 times what he paid for it in US$.
Of course, the gold standard is an impractical system in the current, fast 
moving, computerized world. 
Gerry

Rich Thomas wrote:
> Gold price fluctuates constantly, a dollar is never worth a fixed amount 
> of gold.
> 
> --R
> 
> On 11/10/15 10:13 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > No inflation means you never "need" a raise. You might get a raise for 
> > various reasons, but the dollar is always worth a fixed amount of gold and 
> > always has the same buying power.
> >
> > BTW: What are you and Don going to do with the $1000 Volkswagen is sending 
> > you?
> > http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-09/vw-giving-1-000-payments-to-owners-in-diesel-scandal
> > Gerry
> >
> > Curt wrote:
> >> No inflation means you never get a raise...
> >> If wood has only doubled in price in the last 20 years that's pretty good, 
> >> look at the price of cars...
> >>
> >> Curt
> >>
> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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> >>On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:45 AM, archer75--- via 
> >> Mercedes wrote:
>  GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER
>  By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)
> 
>   
>  The boys were terribly embarrassed that a friend might see
>  them helping Dad scrounge salvaged material.  I told them, "Your
>  friends are not even near this area, so don't be concerned about it,
>  and think about this.  For every stud you put in the van, that's 50
>  cents we're getting for nothing."
> >>> Boy, don't we all wish studs were still 50 cents now!
> >>> Craig
> >> So true! Bought them for a dollar 20 years ago. $2.00 now.
> >> When the U.S. was on the real gold standard there was no inflation, but 
> >> that was around 80-100 years ago. I think Switzerland is still (sort of) 
> >> on the gold standard.
> >> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
Gold price fluctuates constantly, a dollar is never worth a fixed amount 
of gold.


--R

On 11/10/15 10:13 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

No inflation means you never "need" a raise. You might get a raise for various 
reasons, but the dollar is always worth a fixed amount of gold and always has the same 
buying power.

BTW: What are you and Don going to do with the $1000 Volkswagen is sending you?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-09/vw-giving-1-000-payments-to-owners-in-diesel-scandal
Gerry

Curt wrote:

No inflation means you never get a raise...
If wood has only doubled in price in the last 20 years that's pretty good, look 
at the price of cars...

Curt

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   On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:45 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER
By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)

 
The boys were terribly embarrassed that a friend might see
them helping Dad scrounge salvaged material.  I told them, "Your
friends are not even near this area, so don't be concerned about it,
and think about this.  For every stud you put in the van, that's 50
cents we're getting for nothing."

Boy, don't we all wish studs were still 50 cents now!
Craig

So true! Bought them for a dollar 20 years ago. $2.00 now.
When the U.S. was on the real gold standard there was no inflation, but that 
was around 80-100 years ago. I think Switzerland is still (sort of) on the gold 
standard.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-10 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes 
No inflation means you never "need" a raise. You might get a raise for various 
reasons, but the dollar is always worth a fixed amount of gold and always has 
the same buying power.

BTW: What are you and Don going to do with the $1000 Volkswagen is sending you?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-09/vw-giving-1-000-payments-to-owners-in-diesel-scandal
Gerry

Curt wrote:
> No inflation means you never get a raise...
> If wood has only doubled in price in the last 20 years that's pretty good, 
> look at the price of cars...
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>  
>   On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:45 AM, archer75--- via 
> Mercedes wrote:   
> > > GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER
> > > By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)
> > > 
> > >    
> > > The boys were terribly embarrassed that a friend might see
> > > them helping Dad scrounge salvaged material.  I told them, "Your
> > > friends are not even near this area, so don't be concerned about it,
> > > and think about this.  For every stud you put in the van, that's 50
> > > cents we're getting for nothing."
> > 
> > Boy, don't we all wish studs were still 50 cents now!
> > Craig
> 
> So true! Bought them for a dollar 20 years ago. $2.00 now.
> When the U.S. was on the real gold standard there was no inflation, but that 
> was around 80-100 years ago. I think Switzerland is still (sort of) on the 
> gold standard.
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes 
I might point out, those dollars your friend paid for that gold is now
worth about 0.13 cents in real buying power. Adjusted against the dollars
buying power at the time of purchase.

Hard to keep such comparisons in a strictly "apples to apples" frame of
reference. But quite necessary when assessing real buying power of stored
investment gold.

The worldwide ponzi schemes of central banks AKA Federal Reserve have just
run out of fresh victims and ponzi... expect major crash in near future,
some have already crashed and been propped up in short term.. there is no
"reserve" to call on for long term left.



On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 8:50 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> True, but it's "buying power" is never based on deliberate governmental
> devalutation (inflation) like the dollar. Over time, the averaged price of
> gold continues to increase in value. For example, the gold that a friend
> bought in the 1980s is now worth four times what he paid for it, and at one
> time was worth 6 times what he paid for it in US$.
> Of course, the gold standard is an impractical system in the current, fast
> moving, computerized world.
> Gerry
>
> Rich Thomas wrote:
> > Gold price fluctuates constantly, a dollar is never worth a fixed amount
> > of gold.
> >
> > --R
> >
> > On 11/10/15 10:13 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > > No inflation means you never "need" a raise. You might get a raise for
> various reasons, but the dollar is always worth a fixed amount of gold and
> always has the same buying power.
> > >
> > > BTW: What are you and Don going to do with the $1000 Volkswagen is
> sending you?
> > >
> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-09/vw-giving-1-000-payments-to-owners-in-diesel-scandal
> > > Gerry
> > >
> > > Curt wrote:
> > >> No inflation means you never get a raise...
> > >> If wood has only doubled in price in the last 20 years that's pretty
> good, look at the price of cars...
> > >>
> > >> Curt
> > >>
> > >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> > >>
> > >>On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:45 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >  GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER
> >  By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)
> > 
> >   
> >  The boys were terribly embarrassed that a friend might see
> >  them helping Dad scrounge salvaged material.  I told them, "Your
> >  friends are not even near this area, so don't be concerned about it,
> >  and think about this.  For every stud you put in the van, that's 50
> >  cents we're getting for nothing."
> > >>> Boy, don't we all wish studs were still 50 cents now!
> > >>> Craig
> > >> So true! Bought them for a dollar 20 years ago. $2.00 now.
> > >> When the U.S. was on the real gold standard there was no inflation,
> but that was around 80-100 years ago. I think Switzerland is still (sort
> of) on the gold standard.
> > >> Gerry
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
Hey Grant, I'll buy ALL your soon-to-be-worthless paper dollars for 50 REAL
copper pennies each!

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 11:19 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

> I might point out, those dollars your friend paid for that gold is now
> worth about 0.13 cents in real buying power. Adjusted against the dollars
> buying power at the time of purchase.
>
> Hard to keep such comparisons in a strictly "apples to apples" frame of
> reference. But quite necessary when assessing real buying power of stored
> investment gold.
>
> The worldwide ponzi schemes of central banks AKA Federal Reserve have just
> run out of fresh victims and ponzi... expect major crash in near future,
> some have already crashed and been propped up in short term.. there is no
> "reserve" to call on for long term left.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 8:50 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > True, but it's "buying power" is never based on deliberate governmental
> > devalutation (inflation) like the dollar. Over time, the averaged price
> of
> > gold continues to increase in value. For example, the gold that a friend
> > bought in the 1980s is now worth four times what he paid for it, and at
> one
> > time was worth 6 times what he paid for it in US$.
> > Of course, the gold standard is an impractical system in the current,
> fast
> > moving, computerized world.
> > Gerry
> >
> > Rich Thomas wrote:
> > > Gold price fluctuates constantly, a dollar is never worth a fixed
> amount
> > > of gold.
> > >
> > > --R
> > >
> > > On 11/10/15 10:13 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > No inflation means you never "need" a raise. You might get a raise
> for
> > various reasons, but the dollar is always worth a fixed amount of gold
> and
> > always has the same buying power.
> > > >
> > > > BTW: What are you and Don going to do with the $1000 Volkswagen is
> > sending you?
> > > >
> >
> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-09/vw-giving-1-000-payments-to-owners-in-diesel-scandal
> > > > Gerry
> > > >
> > > > Curt wrote:
> > > >> No inflation means you never get a raise...
> > > >> If wood has only doubled in price in the last 20 years that's pretty
> > good, look at the price of cars...
> > > >>
> > > >> Curt
> > > >>
> > > >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> > > >>
> > > >>On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:45 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes<
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >  GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER
> > >  By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)
> > > 
> > >   
> > >  The boys were terribly embarrassed that a friend might see
> > >  them helping Dad scrounge salvaged material.  I told them, "Your
> > >  friends are not even near this area, so don't be concerned about
> it,
> > >  and think about this.  For every stud you put in the van, that's
> 50
> > >  cents we're getting for nothing."
> > > >>> Boy, don't we all wish studs were still 50 cents now!
> > > >>> Craig
> > > >> So true! Bought them for a dollar 20 years ago. $2.00 now.
> > > >> When the U.S. was on the real gold standard there was no inflation,
> > but that was around 80-100 years ago. I think Switzerland is still (sort
> > of) on the gold standard.
> > > >> Gerry
> > > >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-10 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes 
Thanks. I neglected to look that up and point that out.
Gerry

G Mann wrote:

> I might point out, those dollars your friend paid for that gold is now
> worth about 0.13 cents in real buying power. Adjusted against the dollars
> buying power at the time of purchase.
> 
> Hard to keep such comparisons in a strictly "apples to apples" frame of
> reference. But quite necessary when assessing real buying power of stored
> investment gold.
> 
> The worldwide ponzi schemes of central banks AKA Federal Reserve have just
> run out of fresh victims and ponzi... expect major crash in near future,
> some have already crashed and been propped up in short term.. there is no
> "reserve" to call on for long term left.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 8:50 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > True, but it's "buying power" is never based on deliberate governmental
> > devalutation (inflation) like the dollar. Over time, the averaged price of
> > gold continues to increase in value. For example, the gold that a friend
> > bought in the 1980s is now worth four times what he paid for it, and at one
> > time was worth 6 times what he paid for it in US$.
> > Of course, the gold standard is an impractical system in the current, fast
> > moving, computerized world.
> > Gerry
> >
> > Rich Thomas wrote:
> > > Gold price fluctuates constantly, a dollar is never worth a fixed amount
> > > of gold.
> > >
> > > --R
> > >
> > > On 11/10/15 10:13 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > No inflation means you never "need" a raise. You might get a raise for
> > various reasons, but the dollar is always worth a fixed amount of gold and
> > always has the same buying power.
> > > >
> > > > BTW: What are you and Don going to do with the $1000 Volkswagen is
> > sending you?
> > > >
> > http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-09/vw-giving-1-000-payments-to-owners-in-diesel-scandal
> > > > Gerry
> > > >
> > > > Curt wrote:
> > > >> No inflation means you never get a raise...
> > > >> If wood has only doubled in price in the last 20 years that's pretty
> > good, look at the price of cars...
> > > >>
> > > >> Curt
> > > >>
> > > >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> > > >>
> > > >>On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:45 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes<
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >  GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER
> > >  By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)
> > > 
> > >   
> > >  The boys were terribly embarrassed that a friend might see
> > >  them helping Dad scrounge salvaged material.  I told them, "Your
> > >  friends are not even near this area, so don't be concerned about it,
> > >  and think about this.  For every stud you put in the van, that's 50
> > >  cents we're getting for nothing."
> > > >>> Boy, don't we all wish studs were still 50 cents now!
> > > >>> Craig
> > > >> So true! Bought them for a dollar 20 years ago. $2.00 now.
> > > >> When the U.S. was on the real gold standard there was no inflation,
> > but that was around 80-100 years ago. I think Switzerland is still (sort
> > of) on the gold standard.
> > > >> Gerry
> > > >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
My cars both have 1.9l engines, no scandal...


Curt

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Date:Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:13 AM
Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

No inflation means you never "need" a raise. You might get a raise for various 
reasons, but the dollar is always worth a fixed amount of gold and always has 
the same buying power.

BTW: What are you and Don going to do with the $1000 Volkswagen is sending you?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-09/vw-giving-1-000-payments-to-owners-in-diesel-scandal
Gerry

Curt wrote:
> No inflation means you never get a raise...
> If wood has only doubled in price in the last 20 years that's pretty good, 
> look at the price of cars...
> 
> Curt
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>Mercedes<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:  
> > > GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER
> > > By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)
> > > 
> > >    
> > > The boys were terribly embarrassed that a friend might see
> > > them helping Dad scrounge salvaged material.  I told them, "Your
> > > friends are not even near this area, so don't be concerned about it,
> > > and think about this.  For every stud you put in the van, that's 50
> > > cents we're getting for nothing."
> > 
> > Boy, don't we all wish studs were still 50 cents now!
> > Craig
> 
> So true! Bought them for a dollar 20 years ago. $2.00 now.
> When the U.S. was on the real gold standard there was no inflation, but that 
> was around 80-100 years ago. I think Switzerland is still (sort of) on the 
> gold standard.
> Gerry
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[MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-10 Thread WILTON via Mercedes 
BTW, due to the appreciating real estate market and the significant 
improvements I made to the cabin using the scrounged/salvaged materials, I 
was rewarded handsomely when we sold it in Aug '79.  'Even made it possible 
for me to buy a new '80 MB 240D ($17.4k) in Nov '79.  'Been driving MB 
Diesels since.


Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-09 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
Sunday evening I was scrounging / salvaging.  I'd gotten a pallet of wood
flooring for our house and had a nice long pallet to dispose of.  I spent
about an hour or so taking it all apart and removing all the nails so I
have three nice 2x4 pieces, each is at least six feet long.  Daughter unit
watched and had me explain what and why I was doing "So I can do it when I
grow up".

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Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-09 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes 

> > GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER
> > By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)
> > 
> > 
> > The boys were terribly embarrassed that a friend might see
> > them helping Dad scrounge salvaged material.  I told them, "Your
> > friends are not even near this area, so don't be concerned about it,
> > and think about this.  For every stud you put in the van, that's 50
> > cents we're getting for nothing."
> 
> Boy, don't we all wish studs were still 50 cents now!
> Craig

So true! Bought them for a dollar 20 years ago. $2.00 now.
When the U.S. was on the real gold standard there was no inflation, but that 
was around 80-100 years ago. I think Switzerland is still (sort of) on the gold 
standard.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes 
On Mon, 9 Nov 2015 09:52:56 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
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> Daughter unit watched and had me explain what and why I was doing "So I
> can do it when I grow up".

Way to go, Max! Training them up right!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes 
On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 18:21:37 -0500 WILTON via Mercedes
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> GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER
> By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)
> 
>   
> The boys were terribly embarrassed that a friend might see
> them helping Dad scrounge salvaged material.  I told them, "Your
> friends are not even near this area, so don't be concerned about it,
> and think about this.  For every stud you put in the van, that's 50
> cents we're getting for nothing."

Boy, don't we all wish studs were still 50 cents now!


Craig

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[MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-08 Thread WILTON via Mercedes 

GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER
By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)

   We had many buildings on base that were built during WWII and were now 
condemned, sold to salvagers or awaiting being burned by our fire department 
for training exercises.  I examined three of the buildings to be burned and 
realized that I could easily remove certain 2 x 6 and 2 x 8 beams without 
rendering the buildings unsafe for the fire department's exercises, so I 
obtained proper written permission from the base commander to remove 
elements from certain buildings "of no further value to the Air Force."
   Often, on late afternoons or Saturday mornings, then, I'd pull my van up 
to one of the condemned buildings and go in with my step ladder, crow bar 
and hammer and take some of the building parts, load up my bounty and drive 
away without anybody ever questioning my actions.  One of the buildings was 
directly and immediately beside Security Police Headquarters, and a small 
wooden bridge I dismantled and hauled away was less than half a block 
directly in front of the police building.  I was surprised that nobody was 
ever curious enough to confront me.  Maybe they recognized the van or me and 
assumed that it must be okay (which it was), but I never had to show the 
commander's letter.  This does not mean that the dismantling and hauling 
went completely unobserved, however.
   Late one afternoon and early evening, I had partially dismantled the 
bridge and most of the long beams were loaded onto my '74 Plymouth van with 
several feet of each protruding out the back of the van.  I had attached a 
red flag and red reflector on the end of one of the beams to improve their 
visibility for the night trip to our cabin 35 miles away in the San Gabriel 
Mountains, where I planned to use the beams in the building of a deck.
   Almost immediately after I exited the base onto the main highway for the 
trip to the cabin, flashing blue lights of a CHP cruiser were behind me.  I 
pulled over, thinking the officer was going to jump me for having the beams 
protruding so far out the back or not having a light on them or question why 
I was leaving the base loaded with such beams, especially at night.  He 
asked for my license and registration, which I immediately presented, of 
course. He glanced at them, handed them back and said, "Sorry to have 
bothered you, Sir.  Have a nice evening."  I put my license back in my 
wallet, threw the registration card on the engine cover by my right leg and 
proceeded on my trip.  A couple of days later, I picked up the 
registration card and, as I started to put it back in the glove compartment, 
I noticed that the card was for a '64 Dodge van that I had traded a couple 
of years before for the '76 Plymouth van that I was driving!!!  The CHP 
officer never noticed the difference, and I never knew why he had stopped 
me.
I also salvaged several nice 2 X 12's that had served as overhead bullet 
baffles at an outdoor firing range no longer in use.  Many of the beams 
downrange had bullets in them, but those from near the firing line were 
bullet-free.  I ripped these 2 X 12's down the middle to make 2 X 6's 
rafters for a new outbuilding at the cabin.
   We also had a contract to completely refurbish a significant number of 
base living quarters/houses, including "gutting" and rebuilding the 
interiors.  Late one afternoon, I drove through the project area and 
observed many stacks of used 2 X 4 studs lying outside the houses.  They had 
been in the houses for at least 30 years and were dry, straight and would be 
very serviceable after removing the nails.  The next day, I asked the 
contractor what he planned to do with them.  He replied that he'd probably 
have to give them away or burn them, "Nobody wants to bother with removing 
the nails to reuse them."  I asked if I could have some of them, to which he 
replied, "Please take all you want.  It'll certainly save me the bother of 
getting rid of them."
   Late that afternoon, I took my two teenage sons to help me load the van 
with the studs.  The boys were terribly embarrassed that a friend might see 
them helping Dad scrounge salvaged material.  I told them, "Your friends are 
not even near this area, so don't be concerned about it, and think about 
this.  For every stud you put in the van, that's 50 cents we're getting for 
nothing."  Over a few days we filled the van with several loads of the 
studs.
I also salvaged enough kitchen cabinets from the housing project to build a 
nice, modern kitchen in the cabin.  'Also used some of the cabinets for 
storage space and a work bench in the new outbuilding.
   The 20 X 16 outbuilding was built mostly of materials salvaged from the 
base.  The only things I had to buy for the building were concrete for the 
floor, roof covering, cedar shingles for siding to match the house, nails 
and electrical wiring and fixtures,  'Even scrounged a couple of windows and 
a door from the condemned buildings on

Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-08 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
There is a woman here who has a little business demolishing houses and 
other structures by hand, she takes out all the reusable stuff and sells 
it pretty cheap -- flooring, framing lumber, doors, windows, cabinets, 
fixtures, etc.  I bought 6 largish double-hung windows from her a coupla 
months ago, thinking about using them in a new shed, $5 each.  I also 
bought some really nice wrought iron railings from the porch on a house 
she was tearing down, put them in the loft of my addition, $300 for 
about 30ft.  Took them to the welding shop and got them trimmed and 
bracketed for not much, they look really nice and have a bit of patina.  
She has a ratty old warehouse she keeps a lot of stuff in, some 
treasures there!


She had a nice shed the other day for $150 then $75, you move it. More 
than I wanted to fool with but it would have been a great deal.


--R

On 11/8/15 6:21 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER
By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret) 



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Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER

2015-11-08 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes 
There is a woman here who has a little business demolishing houses 
and other structures by hand, she takes out all the reusable stuff 
and sells it pretty cheap -- flooring, framing lumber, doors, 
windows, cabinets, fixtures, etc.  I bought 6 largish double-hung 
windows from her a coupla months ago, thinking about using them in a 
new shed, $5 each.  I also bought some really nice wrought iron 
railings from the porch on a house she was tearing down, put them in 
the loft of my addition, $300 for about 30ft.  Took them to the 
welding shop and got them trimmed and bracketed for not much, they 
look really nice and have a bit of patina.  She has a ratty old 
warehouse she keeps a lot of stuff in, some treasures there!


She had a nice shed the other day for $150 then $75, you move it. 
More than I wanted to fool with but it would have been a great deal.


--R

On 11/8/15 6:21 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

GEORGE TALES - THE SCROUNGER
By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret)


I've used salvage lumber and nails for years, but never for a whole 
building.  I did salvage a garage in collage.  Jacked it up and moved 
it whole with 2 bridge blanks across the truck bed under stringers 
nailed on the studs of the garage.  The truck was mostly in the 
garage, so I got a neighbor to watch it, check clearances, etc., 
direct me as I drove from where it was to where it was going, very 
slowly.  No permits, no notifying the politzei.


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