Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair - wristwatches?
I'm hooked on vintage self winding Wittnauer and Longines watches from the 60s and earlier... On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: My favorites are the 21 jewel watches by Bulova (Swiss made) and Elgin from the 40's and 50's. I have a couple that can keep time to a second a day when worn, very nice watches indeed. Snap back cases, though, so NO water -- in fact, no sweat, either -- so they are dress only, but very nice. Especially when I can get a gold filled sterling silver cased one for $12 on Ebay that only needs a new mainspring and a cleaning to run like new. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've always wondered why an odd number of jewels - aren't they used as bearings? If so, isn't there one on each end of a shaft? Where does the odd one go? On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: My favorites are the 21 jewel watches by Bulova (Swiss made) and Elgin from the 40's and 50's. Peter OKDon 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've always wondered why an odd number of jewels - aren't they used as bearings? If so, isn't there one on each end of a shaft? Where does the odd one go? Isn't there a pallet or three in the escapement? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used. Don't they form to the owners foot? On Sunday, January 6, 2013, Benz Hogs wrote: No worse than feet getting soaked running through a creek (think Hell Race) or racing through mud/water in a Cyclocross race. I've soaked more than one pair of running/cycling shoes in vinegar or sprayed the interior with alcohol/tea tree oil to combat bacteria. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (159,xxx mi) On 1/6/2013 10:53 PM, Craig wrote: On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 22:28:04 -0600 Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Goodwill in Johnson County. Lots of executive castoffs. I just bought a pair of Allen Edmonds from Savers for $6. The uppers are in very good condition. One sole has a tiny hole. I also own Johnston Murphy purchased in the early 90's, maybe '94/'95. Are you at all concerned about getting athlete's foot or some other foot infection from used shoes? Craig __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used. Don't they form to the owners foot? And why would they not RE-form? At least until they were ready to RE-tire. I'm not big on used shoes. (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.) But hey, I wear socks so what do I care? I'd think that with some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the shop oven at 200 degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth considering. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
My shoes (SAS) come with a replaceable insert that conforms to the wearer's foot. In fact, I've replaced inserts a few times, making the shoes feel new again and always very comfortable. Might some of the shoes under discussion have such a replaceable insert? (BTW, I'm not talking about some sort of universal (Dr. Scholl's, or whatever) insert, I'm talking about an OE insert.) Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used. Don't they form to the owners foot? And why would they not RE-form? At least until they were ready to RE-tire. I'm not big on used shoes. (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.) But hey, I wear socks so what do I care? I'd think that with some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the shop oven at 200 degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth considering. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used. Don't they form to the owners foot? And why would they not RE-form? At least until they were ready to RE-tire. I'm not big on used shoes. (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.) But hey, I wear socks so what do I care? I'd think that with some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the shop oven at 200 degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth considering. -- Jim Sheesh! what's the big deal? Have these guys never put bare feet on a beach? There used to be a song about Its a treat to put your feet in da Mississippi mud Mississippi mud is exquisitely smooth, and the residue sticks to your skin like used OM616 motor oil. Bacteria and fungi are everywhere. If you are healthy, your body is equipped to fight them off. Spray em with your favorite disinfectant (if you must) and move on. One of the problems with our society is that we are too sterile. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Among other things, the soles can wear down depending on how people walk. I think it goes beyond the inserts. On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used. Don't they form to the owners foot? And why would they not RE-form? At least until they were ready to RE-tire. I'm not big on used shoes. (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.) But hey, I wear socks so what do I care? I'd think that with some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the shop oven at 200 degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth considering. -- Jim Sheesh! what's the big deal? Have these guys never put bare feet on a beach? There used to be a song about Its a treat to put your feet in da Mississippi mud Mississippi mud is exquisitely smooth, and the residue sticks to your skin like used OM616 motor oil. Bacteria and fungi are everywhere. If you are healthy, your body is equipped to fight them off. Spray em with your favorite disinfectant (if you must) and move on. One of the problems with our society is that we are too sterile. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Of course, 'COULD go well beyond inserts, but if everything else is good or better - tread, uppers, etc., new OE insert may work very well. Wilton - Original Message - From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair Among other things, the soles can wear down depending on how people walk. I think it goes beyond the inserts. On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used. Don't they form to the owners foot? And why would they not RE-form? At least until they were ready to RE-tire. I'm not big on used shoes. (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.) But hey, I wear socks so what do I care? I'd think that with some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the shop oven at 200 degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth considering. -- Jim Sheesh! what's the big deal? Have these guys never put bare feet on a beach? There used to be a song about Its a treat to put your feet in da Mississippi mud Mississippi mud is exquisitely smooth, and the residue sticks to your skin like used OM616 motor oil. Bacteria and fungi are everywhere. If you are healthy, your body is equipped to fight them off. Spray em with your favorite disinfectant (if you must) and move on. One of the problems with our society is that we are too sterile. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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But haven't you heard? There are germs and they're going to kiiilll you. Live in fear, buy our anti-germ stuff, it'll save you. If it doesn't we'll sell you some new some new anti-germ stuff. I've read that IBS is basically unheard of in the third world, the current working theory is that some of the parasites in our gut that we work so hard to kill are actually good for us and keep our gut running right. Thus our germ-o-phobic world resigns some (many?) people to the bathroom. People are funny about stuff, poo especially. I keep thinking I ought to start humanure composting. I've read the handbook, we did an experiment at camp one time (shoveling out a full outhouse is no fun, I'm looking for an alternative) and ended up with nothing. Meaning one bucket full of stuff (which is to say poo covered in sawdust) from the trial dumped in a pile in the woods with leaves added over top became nothing in 1 year, meaning I couldn't find where I'd dumped it... At home I was thinking about how much water we'd save. -Curt Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:35:17 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair Message-ID: a06240803cd109a5b042c@[192.168.0.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used. Don't they form to the owners foot? And why would they not RE-form? At least until they were ready to RE-tire. I'm not big on used shoes. (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.) But hey, I wear socks so what do I care? I'd think that with some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the shop oven at 200 degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth considering. -- Jim Sheesh! what's the big deal? Have these guys never put bare feet on a beach? There used to be a song about Its a treat to put your feet in da Mississippi mud Mississippi mud is exquisitely smooth, and the residue sticks to your skin like used OM616 motor oil. Bacteria and fungi are everywhere. If you are healthy, your body is equipped to fight them off. Spray em with your favorite disinfectant (if you must) and move on. One of the problems with our society is that we are too sterile. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Jim wrote: I'm not big on used shoes. (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.) But hey, I wear socks so what do I care? I'd think that with some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the shop oven at 200 degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth considering. I have purchased three pair of used shoes. Two from Goodwill thrift store and one on ebay. They were all in nearly perfect shape and were Johnston Murphy and Allen Edmonds. I wouldn't have bought them if they had lots of wear. I have been very happy with them. I have been doing some research on this and I think I am going to start selling men's shoes on ebay. But, they will only be top name brands and in Excellent Shape. I have two pair Allen Edmonds, Two pair Cole Haans, and two pair of Bostonian (the older version with all leather soles and leather lined and leather insoles. It will probably just end up being a hobby that I don't make money on, unless it will provide me with free dress shoes for work. There seemed to be a lot of interest in boots. So, which brands of boots would be worth buying to resell? Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I really like my SAS shoes - where do you get the OM inserts? I have a pair that could use new ones. The local shoe shop I bought them from don't carry them and weren't helpful (will be looking for another source). On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 9:32 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: My shoes (SAS) come with a replaceable insert that conforms to the wearer's foot. In fact, I've replaced inserts a few times, making the shoes feel new again and always very comfortable. Might some of the shoes under discussion have such a replaceable insert? (BTW, I'm not talking about some sort of universal (Dr. Scholl's, or whatever) insert, I'm talking about an OE insert.) Wilton -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Google for a SAS store near you; inserts available only at SAS store as far as I know. As last resort, I'll get insert(s) for you at store about 8 blocks from here and send 'em to ya. You know, too, that the inserts are washable, don't you? Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair I really like my SAS shoes - where do you get the OM inserts? I have a pair that could use new ones. The local shoe shop I bought them from don't carry them and weren't helpful (will be looking for another source). On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 9:32 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: My shoes (SAS) come with a replaceable insert that conforms to the wearer's foot. In fact, I've replaced inserts a few times, making the shoes feel new again and always very comfortable. Might some of the shoes under discussion have such a replaceable insert? (BTW, I'm not talking about some sort of universal (Dr. Scholl's, or whatever) insert, I'm talking about an OE insert.) Wilton -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I notice SAS stores in Okie City, Moore, Seminole, Duncan, Tulsa; 'don't know where else. 'Forgot where you live. If store too far, call store and have 'em sent. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair Google for a SAS store near you; inserts available only at SAS store as far as I know. As last resort, I'll get insert(s) for you at store about 8 blocks from here and send 'em to ya. You know, too, that the inserts are washable, don't you? Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair I really like my SAS shoes - where do you get the OM inserts? I have a pair that could use new ones. The local shoe shop I bought them from don't carry them and weren't helpful (will be looking for another source). On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 9:32 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: My shoes (SAS) come with a replaceable insert that conforms to the wearer's foot. In fact, I've replaced inserts a few times, making the shoes feel new again and always very comfortable. Might some of the shoes under discussion have such a replaceable insert? (BTW, I'm not talking about some sort of universal (Dr. Scholl's, or whatever) insert, I'm talking about an OE insert.) Wilton -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That they do. Podiatrist told me to only get new shoes and they would mold to my foot. Since for a bit my oldest was the same shoe size, I was advised to strike him, smite him if I must, should I find my shoes on his feet. clay On Jan 7, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Brian Toscano wrote: I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used. Don't they form to the owners foot? On Sunday, January 6, 2013, Benz Hogs wrote: No worse than feet getting soaked running through a creek (think Hell Race) or racing through mud/water in a Cyclocross race. I've soaked more than one pair of running/cycling shoes in vinegar or sprayed the interior with alcohol/tea tree oil to combat bacteria. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (159,xxx mi) On 1/6/2013 10:53 PM, Craig wrote: On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 22:28:04 -0600 Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Goodwill in Johnson County. Lots of executive castoffs. I just bought a pair of Allen Edmonds from Savers for $6. The uppers are in very good condition. One sole has a tiny hole. I also own Johnston Murphy purchased in the early 90's, maybe '94/'95. Are you at all concerned about getting athlete's foot or some other foot infection from used shoes? Craig __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A quality shoe can be revitalized. You have to take the insole out and do some cobblery mucking about, then fit a good leather insole formed and fitted to your foot and the shoe. The cost is not reasonable, and unless we are speaking of near magical Italian or other handmade footwear, best to get your own new shoe. That said, if you do not mind investing $200+, it can be done. clay On Jan 7, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used. Don't they form to the owners foot? And why would they not RE-form? At least until they were ready to RE-tire. I'm not big on used shoes. (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.) But hey, I wear socks so what do I care? I'd think that with some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the shop oven at 200 degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth considering. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Used to be that you took the night soil (poop) and contents of the piss pot (if you did not live in town, where that was needed at the tannery) to the garden. Three sided compost pen where you emptied the chamber pot, cover it with hay, toss the liquid on, and kitchen scraps went there as well. Weeds too. Turn it once a month, and in the spring you amend the soil in the garden. Granddad told me about this when I asked him about the quality of his veggies. After I walked to the garden and found him discharging the processed beer into the hay filled bin. He was not interested in walking back inside while gardening and the old fridge was stocked to the gills with cases of beer. Gardening was a six pack affair. That allowed enough time away from Granny, got the work done and kept Granddad hydrated. clay On Jan 7, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: But haven't you heard? There are germs and they're going to kiiilll you. Live in fear, buy our anti-germ stuff, it'll save you. If it doesn't we'll sell you some new some new anti-germ stuff. I've read that IBS is basically unheard of in the third world, the current working theory is that some of the parasites in our gut that we work so hard to kill are actually good for us and keep our gut running right. Thus our germ-o-phobic world resigns some (many?) people to the bathroom. People are funny about stuff, poo especially. I keep thinking I ought to start humanure composting. I've read the handbook, we did an experiment at camp one time (shoveling out a full outhouse is no fun, I'm looking for an alternative) and ended up with nothing. Meaning one bucket full of stuff (which is to say poo covered in sawdust) from the trial dumped in a pile in the woods with leaves added over top became nothing in 1 year, meaning I couldn't find where I'd dumped it... At home I was thinking about how much water we'd save. -Curt Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:35:17 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair Message-ID: a06240803cd109a5b042c@[192.168.0.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used. Don't they form to the owners foot? And why would they not RE-form? At least until they were ready to RE-tire. I'm not big on used shoes. (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.) But hey, I wear socks so what do I care? I'd think that with some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the shop oven at 200 degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth considering. -- Jim Sheesh! what's the big deal? Have these guys never put bare feet on a beach? There used to be a song about Its a treat to put your feet in da Mississippi mud Mississippi mud is exquisitely smooth, and the residue sticks to your skin like used OM616 motor oil. Bacteria and fungi are everywhere. If you are healthy, your body is equipped to fight them off. Spray em with your favorite disinfectant (if you must) and move on. One of the problems with our society is that we are too sterile. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Old shoes are a big industry for the local africans. The goodwill has an outlet store. All the stuff that was not moving at the retail locations or not up to par for putting on the shelf. Massive rolling bins of clothing, shoes, toys, what ever. The africans descend upon the shoes and fill 25 bushel trolly carts with them. Then they go off into a corner, sort them, and dump the rejects back in the bin. There are at least a half dozen of these guys there every day. Yammering into their cell phones in loud voices, shoving and being rude. The books are attacked by the hipsters and old men. Both have smart phones with specialized ISBN scanners. Same assault on the bin, fill the trolly and sort the books. Pretty fast, as they scan, toss, and grab another. Probably keep a dozen of the hundreds they initially took. Seattle Goodwill Industries has gone upscale and now have dedicated goodies identifying staff. They look at just about everything that used to hit the in store boutique. If it is old, or interesting, it will not ever hit the retail floor. Goes to the Online Sales wing, which researches, and posts it to fleabay. They are making a mint. Opening bids are $9.99, unless they know it is worth much more, then it goes up for lowest accepted appraised value. There was a Dali sketch, maybe 3x5, posted at $999.00, sold for 9k clay On Jan 7, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Donald Snook wrote: Jim wrote: I'm not big on used shoes. (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.) But hey, I wear socks so what do I care? I'd think that with some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the shop oven at 200 degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth considering. I have purchased three pair of used shoes. Two from Goodwill thrift store and one on ebay. They were all in nearly perfect shape and were Johnston Murphy and Allen Edmonds. I wouldn't have bought them if they had lots of wear. I have been very happy with them. I have been doing some research on this and I think I am going to start selling men's shoes on ebay. But, they will only be top name brands and in Excellent Shape. I have two pair Allen Edmonds, Two pair Cole Haans, and two pair of Bostonian (the older version with all leather soles and leather lined and leather insoles. It will probably just end up being a hobby that I don't make money on, unless it will provide me with free dress shoes for work. There seemed to be a lot of interest in boots. So, which brands of boots would be worth buying to resell? Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm joining this late, but I'm also a fan of high quality shoes for the same reason. A shoemaker can breathe new life into them and they last for years and years. I'm a huge fan of Lloyd shoes from Germany. Until recently, I was only able to buy them in Europe, but there is a shoe store in Pittsburgh that sells them now: http://bondstreetshoes.com/ Last pair I bought was on sale for about $150, which is a real steal! I think I paid over 200EUR for the previous pair. Here is a good example of an excellent shoe on sale: http://bondstreetshoes.com/store/fairbanks Enjoy, Jaime On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. But, with leather soles they wear out. I just dropped off my favorite Cole Haan shoes for soles and heels it was $65. That seems steep. But, they were the most expensive and most comfortable dress shoes I have ever had. I went ahead and had them do it. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm north of OKC - but one of th stores is near my daughter's place, so not out of the way. I'll check it out next time we head that way - thanks! On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:40 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I notice SAS stores in Okie City, Moore, Seminole, Duncan, Tulsa; 'don't know where else. 'Forgot where you live. If store too far, call store and have 'em sent. Wilton OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT shoes and repair - wristwatches?
How about wristwatches for quality items? Richarde used to have a watch email list at mbz.org - that was a fun time. I grew to like the european stuff, primarily mechanical movements mostly vintage. How about this wristwatch for nice german mechanical craftmanship - EZM-1: http://members.chello.nl/~h.mennink/watches/_private/SinnEZM1.htm http://www.broadarrow.net/ezm1.htm The swiss, of course, are the movement makers of renown, although, there are good russian and chinese mechanical movements also. I like this vintage french aviator wristwatch: http://www.qahill.com/tz/type20/type20.html The Type 20/21 chronograph movement is true flyback - retour en vol. It requires one press to reset and restart the timing of the aviation leg. Not many watches have that. The panel clock by Mathey-Tissot Type 12 is also true flyback. Ok - that is a beginning. I bet we can drag this out like the shoes or bread thread. Begin the fun. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair - wristwatches?
My favorites are the 21 jewel watches by Bulova (Swiss made) and Elgin from the 40's and 50's. I have a couple that can keep time to a second a day when worn, very nice watches indeed. Snap back cases, though, so NO water -- in fact, no sweat, either -- so they are dress only, but very nice. Especially when I can get a gold filled sterling silver cased one for $12 on Ebay that only needs a new mainspring and a cleaning to run like new. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jan 7, 2013, at 11:06 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: There seemed to be a lot of interest in boots. So, which brands of boots would be worth buying to resell? Stewart's. http://stewartbootcompany.com/ Possibly Frye. http://www.thefryecompany.com/ I'm sure there are others. I have personal experience with these. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Goodwill in Johnson County. Lots of executive castoffs. I just bought a pair of Allen Edmonds from Savers for $6. The uppers are in very good condition. One sole has a tiny hole. I also own Johnston Murphy purchased in the early 90's, maybe '94/'95. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (159,xxx mi) On 1/4/2013 6:52 AM, Donald Snook wrote: Rich wrote: Do you ever waltz in them? Sorry no waltzing. I did date a woman in college that was a dance instructor. She tried to teach me to dance. Never was very good. Perhaps it was because I was 19 year old kid and ballroom dancing didn't seem very cool. Gerry provided the following link: http://www.gucci.com/us/category/m/men_s_shoes/oxfords___lace_ups I would wear some of the more conservative styles, but I am afraid I would have to buy them at Goodwill. Maybe Beverly Hills has a goodwill store I could visit. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 22:28:04 -0600 Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Goodwill in Johnson County. Lots of executive castoffs. I just bought a pair of Allen Edmonds from Savers for $6. The uppers are in very good condition. One sole has a tiny hole. I also own Johnston Murphy purchased in the early 90's, maybe '94/'95. Are you at all concerned about getting athlete's foot or some other foot infection from used shoes? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No worse than feet getting soaked running through a creek (think Hell Race) or racing through mud/water in a Cyclocross race. I've soaked more than one pair of running/cycling shoes in vinegar or sprayed the interior with alcohol/tea tree oil to combat bacteria. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (159,xxx mi) On 1/6/2013 10:53 PM, Craig wrote: On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 22:28:04 -0600 Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Goodwill in Johnson County. Lots of executive castoffs. I just bought a pair of Allen Edmonds from Savers for $6. The uppers are in very good condition. One sole has a tiny hole. I also own Johnston Murphy purchased in the early 90's, maybe '94/'95. Are you at all concerned about getting athlete's foot or some other foot infection from used shoes? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rich wrote: Do you ever waltz in them? Sorry no waltzing. I did date a woman in college that was a dance instructor. She tried to teach me to dance. Never was very good. Perhaps it was because I was 19 year old kid and ballroom dancing didn't seem very cool. Gerry provided the following link: http://www.gucci.com/us/category/m/men_s_shoes/oxfords___lace_ups I would wear some of the more conservative styles, but I am afraid I would have to buy them at Goodwill. Maybe Beverly Hills has a goodwill store I could visit. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dan Penoff: Allen-Edmonds are made in Port Washington, WI, and Belgium, WI (little town up the road from Port Washington.) Expense is relative. If you take the example I gave on the other list, I have been wearing a shoe that cost me $300 over its life for over 20 years. Do that math. It cost me $15/year. For that I'll pay big $$ up front. Maybe I should just buy used Allen Edmonds and send them to the Factory for the AE restoration. That might be the way to go. I actually bought a pair of AE at Goodwill because I was thinking about selling them on EBAY. I bet there could be a good market for premium used shoes. The pair I bought is a 10.5. That must be the most popular men's size, because after buying that pair, I have found several other AE's at Goodwill/Salvation Army and they are all 10 or 10.5. I wear 11.5 or 12. :( Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
Dan Penoff: Allen-Edmonds are made in Port Washington, WI, and Belgium, WI (little town up the road from Port Washington.) Expense is relative. If you take the example I gave on the other list, I have been wearing a shoe that cost me $300 over its life for over 20 years. Do that math. It cost me $15/year. For that I'll pay big $$ up front. Maybe I should just buy used Allen Edmonds and send them to the Factory for the AE restoration. That might be the way to go. I actually bought a pair of AE at Goodwill because I was thinking about selling them on EBAY. I bet there could be a good market for premium used shoes. The pair I bought is a 10.5. That must be the most popular men's size, because after buying that pair, I have found several other AE's at Goodwill/Salvation Army and they are all 10 or 10.5. I wear 11.5 or 12. :( Donald H. Snook Lots of Allen-Edmonds shoes on Ebay; $75 up. Click Allen Edmonds shoes Ebay on Bing. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com Rich wrote: Do you ever waltz in them? Sorry no waltzing. I did date a woman in college that was a dance instructor. She tried to teach me to dance. Never was very good. Perhaps it was because I was 19 year old kid and ballroom dancing didn't seem very cool. Gerry provided the following link: http://www.gucci.com/us/category/m/men_s_shoes/oxfords___lace_ups I would wear some of the more conservative styles, but I am afraid I would have to buy them at Goodwill. Maybe Beverly Hills has a goodwill store I could visit. Donald H. Snook ___ Goodwill is too expensive for me, but I'll keep my eye open for Guccis at the Salvation Army Store and the Florida Sheriffs Boys Ranch Store and let you know. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Maybe I should just buy used Allen Edmonds and send them to the Factory for the AE restoration. That might be the way to go. I just checked the web site, looks like a standard recraft is now $125, with the prestige package priced at $150. Makes the distressed gray McTavish look like a real bargain at $147 shipped. I wonder if they'd be willing to sell me a clearance shoe in 11.5B/9.5D? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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SWMBO is the flip-flop maven in our household, and she swears that the only good ones are found in Hawaii. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair No experience or knowledge of them. For sandals or flip flop hybrids I go with Chacos. I got 4-5 years out of the last pair wearing them all summer long and using them for hiking, etc. Very comfortable. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Mephisto Flip Flop --R On 1/3/13 5:29 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: No, I only waltz in flip flops. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79TD300@constructivi ty.net wrote: Do you ever waltz in them? --R On 1/3/13 2:12 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: I've enjoyed my Mephistos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archi ve/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz. comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz. com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comh ttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comht tp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My shoe guy down here does a full recraft with German leather soles for $100. I like the German leather soles, as they seem to wear better/longer than the soles that A-E uses for their recrafting. Wow! $125 for a recraft! They must be short on beer money up there. Dan On Jan 4, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Maybe I should just buy used Allen Edmonds and send them to the Factory for the AE restoration. That might be the way to go. I just checked the web site, looks like a standard recraft is now $125, with the prestige package priced at $150. Makes the distressed gray McTavish look like a real bargain at $147 shipped. I wonder if they'd be willing to sell me a clearance shoe in 11.5B/9.5D? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair now BOOTS
I have owned and worn many decent boots (Dunham, Redwing, Justin, and others) over the decades, but have never encountered better quality and comfort than Danner Boots. I have given a few pair to my sons, and recently saw that one of my sons has gone and bought his own pair, notwithstanding he is a starving student. They are made in the USA, right across the river from me in Portland, OR. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 5:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I wear Red Wing 101 no longer made, made in USA. My sons all wear made in USA Red Wing or made in USA boots from Wesco. I wear Redwing boots also. I work in a blue collar job, so they are the boot of choice for me. I refuse to sacrifice my comfort and safety for a few dollars. It's not worth it. They may make shoes for a business environment also. I do recall Dan P. posting that he had a steel toe pair for when he went on the floor of a manufacturing plant in Wisconsin when he worked there. Briggs Stratton, or perhaps Tecumseh, I think. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think I mentioned buying a Made-in-the-USA pair of Redwings about 2 years ago. Best dammed boots I've ever had. Like somebody else said no break in time at all, super comfortable right out of the box. Last year I bought a pair of Made in Italy hiking boots at LL Bean. They're not bad but they're serious hiking boots not the tall sneakers I usually wear. They're taking FOREVER to break in and they're heavy but have excellent support and are warm when needed and cool when not. Expensive but if they last several years they'll be worth it. -Curt From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 5:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I wear Red Wing 101 no longer made, made in USA. My sons all wear made in USA Red Wing or made in USA boots from Wesco. I wear Redwing boots also. I work in a blue collar job, so they are the boot of choice for me. I refuse to sacrifice my comfort and safety for a few dollars. It's not worth it. They may make shoes for a business environment also. I do recall Dan P. posting that he had a steel toe pair for when he went on the floor of a manufacturing plant in Wisconsin when he worked there. Briggs Stratton, or perhaps Tecumseh, I think. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My wife wore a pair of LL Bean made in Italy hiking boots after she broke an ankle - they were the only shoe/boot that eliminated pain. SHe wore them as her every-day shoes with the exception of special dress-up events (few and far between for us) for six or seven years. Finally the uppers started seperating from the soles, so she bought another pair. She loves them. I don't wear mine that often as we haven't hiked in the mountains that much recently (hopefully that will change soon), but I expect that they will last the rest of my life. However, they do require some break-in, they are quite stiff at first. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I think I mentioned buying a Made-in-the-USA pair of Redwings about 2 years ago. Best dammed boots I've ever had. Like somebody else said no break in time at all, super comfortable right out of the box. Last year I bought a pair of Made in Italy hiking boots at LL Bean. They're not bad but they're serious hiking boots not the tall sneakers I usually wear. They're taking FOREVER to break in and they're heavy but have excellent support and are warm when needed and cool when not. Expensive but if they last several years they'll be worth it. -Curt -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair now BOOTS
On Jan 4, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: I have owned and worn many decent boots (Dunham, Redwing, Justin, and others) over the decades, but have never encountered better quality and comfort than Danner Boots. I have heard that before. They are not cheap though. Must be the A-E of the blue collar world. http://m.danner.com/?utm_source=adcenterutm_medium=cpcutm_term=danner%20bootsutm_campaign=Danner%20-%20Branded%20Mobile#product/26614 Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 20:23:07 -0600 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: I have heard that before. They are not cheap though. Must be the A-E of the blue collar world. http://m.danner.com/?utm_source=adcenterutm_medium=cpcutm_term=danner%20bootsutm_campaign=Danner%20-%20Branded%20Mobile#product/26614 Or if you want to see them on your computer, http://www.danner.com Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. But, with leather soles they wear out. I just dropped off my favorite Cole Haan shoes for soles and heels it was $65. That seems steep. But, they were the most expensive and most comfortable dress shoes I have ever had. I went ahead and had them do it. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:09:36 -0600 Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. Indeed! Our newest automobile is 17-18 years old. Some of us have 30 year and more old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. From the subject, I thought you were talking about shoes for our cars! Silly me. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! I have a pair of Florsheims I have had for 24 years, though I do not wear them every day. I took them to a shoe repair place in Santa Fe a couple of years ago. That place restitched some of the seams and then resoled them. Unfortunately, in trimming the sole to the size of the shoe, they ground off too much on one of the shoes and the stitching on the toe is already wearing through. With that and the stitching on the top of the shoes failing, I may not have them repaired again. I was given a pair of Bates Uniform Footware shoes and am considering using them as my dress shoes. I just have to figure out how to sterilize them before I start wearing them (not knowing if the fellow from whom I got them had problems with Athlete's foot). The shoe trees I have were a Christmas present 44 years ago. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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From: dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:09:36 -0600 Subject: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. But, with leather soles they wear out. I just dropped off my favorite Cole Haan shoes for soles and heels it was $65. That seems steep. But, they were the most expensive and most comfortable dress shoes I have ever had. I went ahead and had them do it. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! Lt. Don had a FB post the other day on some shoes he bought second hand. I don't think they are dress shoes, but the manufacturer may make some. Going to start breaking in a new pair of shoes tomorrow. My wife got them for $25 from a friend of hers, who was selling them for her son. Never been worn. Pretty heavy but seem to be well constructed and should last a while. Since I'd never heard of the brand (Mephisto) did a little research. Found the exact shoe. Looks like I saved about $400. http://www.shoebuy.com/mephisto-abel/117186 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My suggestion. If you have found a competent cobbler, in todays marketplace, give him a huge tip, adopt him/her as your long lost child, and NEVER let them move away or retire. Well built shoes are becoming more rare every day. People to repair them properly and keep them well built are even more rare. Good Luck !! Grant.. Who walks on his feet still most days. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. But, with leather soles they wear out. I just dropped off my favorite Cole Haan shoes for soles and heels it was $65. That seems steep. But, they were the most expensive and most comfortable dress shoes I have ever had. I went ahead and had them do it. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've enjoyed my Mephistos. My advise is to get quality repairs when needed. In my case they last longer than several pairs of cheaper shoes before they need any repairs. I was not happy with their sandals but the shoes have been fine. On Thursday, January 3, 2013, Craig wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:09:36 -0600 Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.comjavascript:; wrote: I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. Indeed! Our newest automobile is 17-18 years old. Some of us have 30 year and more old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. From the subject, I thought you were talking about shoes for our cars! Silly me. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! I have a pair of Florsheims I have had for 24 years, though I do not wear them every day. I took them to a shoe repair place in Santa Fe a couple of years ago. That place restitched some of the seams and then resoled them. Unfortunately, in trimming the sole to the size of the shoe, they ground off too much on one of the shoes and the stitching on the toe is already wearing through. With that and the stitching on the top of the shoes failing, I may not have them repaired again. I was given a pair of Bates Uniform Footware shoes and am considering using them as my dress shoes. I just have to figure out how to sterilize them before I start wearing them (not knowing if the fellow from whom I got them had problems with Athlete's foot). The shoe trees I have were a Christmas present 44 years ago. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Two words: Allen Edmonds. My Dad was an A-E guy all of his life, and I often hassled him about his expensive shoes. I grew up and got smart. The trick is to not buy them at list, but wait for the sales. Get on their online mailing list. They had several online sales in the past month, which are now expired. Find one of their retailers in your area and get fitted so you know your size - this saves a lot of hassles with having to guess and return shoes purchased online. I wouldn't even have a lot of qualms about buying them at list. Here's why: I have 6-7 pairs of A-E shoes in my closet right now. I have two more that they refused to recraft, mainly because of their age. Of the pairs I still wear, the NEWEST pair was purchased in 1996, with the others ranging in age all the way back to 1991-2 or thereabouts. I had the privilege of living in Port Washington, WI, where A-Es are made. If you're lucky enough to be in the area, the first week of July is their tent sale. This is the annual meeting for their salespeople, and they put up a huge tent in front of the plant where they sell discontinued and factory seconds at as much as 50% off. The salespeople staff the tent, so every person you speak to knows the shoes better than any retail store clerk will. The sales people will often point out why a particular shoe is a second, and believe me, the stuff they showed me was imperceptible to me and probably every other person who looked at them. Most of my shoes have been recrafted at least once, which costs around $100 depending on the package you choose. I can take a pair of brown tasseled wingtips I bought in 1994 for around $200 (a $400 shoe new) and add in the recrafting I had done around 2001 and I have a shoe that cost me $300 that has lasted close to 20 years (and is still going.) I do want some new black loafers and maybe another brown shoe, so I am planning on making a trip to Port Washington in July. As far as I'm concerned, it's money well spent. On a related note, one of the finest shoe repair guys in the nation is about 40 minutes away from me in Lakeland, FL. He recrafted one of my pairs of A-Es for the same price and did a fantastic job. I highly recommend him for any serious shoe repair. http://www.mcfarlandsshoerepair.net/ Dan On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:09 PM, Donald Snook wrote: I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. But, with leather soles they wear out. I just dropped off my favorite Cole Haan shoes for soles and heels it was $65. That seems steep. But, they were the most expensive and most comfortable dress shoes I have ever had. I went ahead and had them do it. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:12:32 -0700 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I've enjoyed my Mephistos. My advise is to get quality repairs when needed. Aye, and there's the rub! How do you know who does quality repairs before you have them repair your shoes? In my case they last longer than several pairs of cheaper shoes before they need any repairs. I was not happy with their sandals but the shoes have been fine. That's good to know. I checked out the Bates on the website Rick mentioned and found they are $114.95, while the Mephisto Abels are $429.95. For right now, being unemployed, I think I'll stick with the Bates -- they are used but like new. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Do you ever waltz in them? --R On 1/3/13 2:12 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: I've enjoyed my Mephistos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. Indeed! Our newest automobile is 17-18 years old. Some of us have 30 year and more old Mercedes. ... The shoe trees I have were a Christmas present 44 years ago. Craig I have a car that turned 40 in 2006. My son has one too. Daughter drives a car as old as she is, and she graduated from HS almost 10 years ago. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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From: dsn...@mtsqh.com I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. But, with leather soles they wear out. I just dropped off my favorite Cole Haan shoes for soles and heels it was $65. That seems steep. But, they were the most expensive and most comfortable dress shoes I have ever had. I went ahead and had them do it. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! --- http://www.gucci.com/us/category/m/men_s_shoes/oxfords___lace_ups Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My 280SEL is only a 44 year old car. Still a baby. But she gets me to work and home every day. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. Indeed! Our newest automobile is 17-18 years old. Some of us have 30 year and more old Mercedes. ... The shoe trees I have were a Christmas present 44 years ago. Craig I have a car that turned 40 in 2006. My son has one too. Daughter drives a car as old as she is, and she graduated from HS almost 10 years ago. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I like the rubber thong flip flops for $185.00 you can get at K-Mart for $2.95 Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Archer Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair From: dsn...@mtsqh.com I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. But, with leather soles they wear out. I just dropped off my favorite Cole Haan shoes for soles and heels it was $65. That seems steep. But, they were the most expensive and most comfortable dress shoes I have ever had. I went ahead and had them do it. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! --- http://www.gucci.com/us/category/m/men_s_shoes/oxfords___lace_ups Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I wonder which of the Mercedes diesel models built between, say, 1995 and 2005 will become as legendary as the 240Ds and the 300Ds; and last 30 to 44 years? Gerry From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com My 280SEL is only a 44 year old car. Still a baby. But she gets me to work and home every day. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. Indeed! Our newest automobile is 17-18 years old. Some of us have 30 year and more old Mercedes. ... The shoe trees I have were a Christmas present 44 years ago. Craig I have a car that turned 40 in 2006. My son has one too. Daughter drives a car as old as she is, and she graduated from HS almost 10 years ago. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2637/5507 - Release Date: 01/03/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Tch! We Walmart shoppers wouldn't be caught dead in a K-mart. Have you seen our I'm a Walmartian tee shirts? Gerry From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com I like the rubber thong flip flops for $185.00 you can get at K-Mart for $2.95 Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Archer Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair From: dsn...@mtsqh.com I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. But, with leather soles they wear out. I just dropped off my favorite Cole Haan shoes for soles and heels it was $65. That seems steep. But, they were the most expensive and most comfortable dress shoes I have ever had. I went ahead and had them do it. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! --- http://www.gucci.com/us/category/m/men_s_shoes/oxfords___lace_ups Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2637/5507 - Release Date: 01/03/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No, I only waltz in flip flops. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Do you ever waltz in them? --R On 1/3/13 2:12 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: I've enjoyed my Mephistos. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Not a one. Maybe the CDI engines but probably not until you get to blue tech. The cars are pretty forgettable in design and reliability. When they divested from Chrysler, the quality began to increase to the point it was worth investing in a benz once more. Sadly, they remain nothing special to look at. We like the older ones because we recall seeing them when younger or lusting after them as young adults. Maybe a parent or grandparent had one and we have fond memories. If we think of older folks in a benz now, it is not going to be a diesel and having not spread the diesel engine throughout the line, you do not have the depth of models to chose from. All the benz from that period are E class. The 210 was just ugly clay On Jan 3, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: I wonder which of the Mercedes diesel models built between, say, 1995 and 2005 will become as legendary as the 240Ds and the 300Ds; and last 30 to 44 years? Gerry From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com My 280SEL is only a 44 year old car. Still a baby. But she gets me to work and home every day. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. Indeed! Our newest automobile is 17-18 years old. Some of us have 30 year and more old Mercedes. ... The shoe trees I have were a Christmas present 44 years ago. Craig I have a car that turned 40 in 2006. My son has one too. Daughter drives a car as old as she is, and she graduated from HS almost 10 years ago. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2637/5507 - Release Date: 01/03/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mephisto Flip Flop --R On 1/3/13 5:29 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: No, I only waltz in flip flops. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Do you ever waltz in them? --R On 1/3/13 2:12 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: I've enjoyed my Mephistos. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No experience or knowledge of them. For sandals or flip flop hybrids I go with Chacos. I got 4-5 years out of the last pair wearing them all summer long and using them for hiking, etc. Very comfortable. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Mephisto Flip Flop --R On 1/3/13 5:29 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: No, I only waltz in flip flops. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Do you ever waltz in them? --R On 1/3/13 2:12 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: I've enjoyed my Mephistos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Lessee - Edmunds, Dan sez are made in USA. Where are the rest of these famous shoes made? Mephisto, Bates, Gucci? I wear Red Wing 101 no longer made, made in USA. My sons all wear made in USA Red Wing or made in USA boots from Wesco. Expensive must include enjoyment and lifespan. Inexpensive becomes unaffordable in the end. And, part of affordable includes people like me at work here in USA. No walmartian here. That place does not know the shadow I cast at their doors - nope! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I used to buy brands like Florsheim and Bush/Nunn, which typically lasted me a year under normal wear in a business environment. Maybe $100 for a good pair, less if I could find them on sale. One of the things about A-Es that can't be quantified is that they never have to break in. That is, they are comfortable from the first time you put them on - no breaking in, no sore back of the heels, etc., that you have with other shoes. I don't know if it's the quality of materials or the way they are made, but this is one part of A-Es that I have never found in another brand of shoes. Allen-Edmonds are made in Port Washington, WI, and Belgium, WI (little town up the road from Port Washington.) Expense is relative. If you take the example I gave on the other list, I have been wearing a shoe that cost me $300 over its life for over 20 years. Do that math. It cost me $15/year. For that I'll pay big $$ up front. Dan On Jan 3, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Lessee - Edmunds, Dan sez are made in USA. Where are the rest of these famous shoes made? Mephisto, Bates, Gucci? I wear Red Wing 101 no longer made, made in USA. My sons all wear made in USA Red Wing or made in USA boots from Wesco. Expensive must include enjoyment and lifespan. Inexpensive becomes unaffordable in the end. And, part of affordable includes people like me at work here in USA. No walmartian here. That place does not know the shadow I cast at their doors - nope! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I wear Red Wing 101 no longer made, made in USA. My sons all wear made in USA Red Wing or made in USA boots from Wesco. I wear Redwing boots also. I work in a blue collar job, so they are the boot of choice for me. I refuse to sacrifice my comfort and safety for a few dollars. It's not worth it. They may make shoes for a business environment also. I do recall Dan P. posting that he had a steel toe pair for when he went on the floor of a manufacturing plant in Wisconsin when he worked there. Briggs Stratton, or perhaps Tecumseh, I think. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have to concur about the Allen Edmonds. I have a pair in cordovan leather- not the color but the leather apparently made from horse hide or something and let me tell you they are tough! And don't laugh but during my pimpin' days back in Boston during the late 90's, I bought a couple of Gucci shoes. They were also made from cordovan leather. Wow are those shoes tough. I wore them clubbing, to bars, in the rain, snow and sleet and they held up incredibly well- better than the Allen- Edmonds. Looking back, I am horrified at what I paid for those shoes but I now realize that they were a lifetime purchase. I Never have to buy another nice shoe again. For everyday shoes I now pay $20-30 for whatever Timberland shoe is on clearance at the Factory Outlet in Freeport, Maine. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: dsn...@mtsqh.com I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to 10 or 20 year old Mercedes. I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. But, with leather soles they wear out. I just dropped off my favorite Cole Haan shoes for soles and heels it was $65. That seems steep. But, they were the most expensive and most comfortable dress shoes I have ever had. I went ahead and had them do it. Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are worth repairing and keeping for years? I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet! --- http://www.gucci.com/us/category/m/men_s_shoes/oxfords___lace_ups Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We had a shoe truck that came to the plant at Kohler once a month. They sold shoes for the employees on the factory floor. I wandered in one time and asked if they had any dress safety shoes, which they did. I bought a pair of black steel toed wing tips. Not sure what brand they were, but I only had to wear them on the factory floor so they got very little wear. There was a union steward who was a real dick to all of the white collar employees. He would walk up and step on the toes of your shoes to see if you were wearing steel toes - if not, he would file a complaint with the safety committee. I told a couple of people I worked with about my new shoes, who then followed me out to the factory floor. Sure enough, Mr. Dick came walking up and stepped on the toe of one of my shoes. He had a really strange look on his face when he realized that I had steel toed shoes. I tossed a shop towel at him and told him he owed me a shine. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2013, at 8:21 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I wear Red Wing 101 no longer made, made in USA. My sons all wear made in USA Red Wing or made in USA boots from Wesco. I wear Redwing boots also. I work in a blue collar job, so they are the boot of choice for me. I refuse to sacrifice my comfort and safety for a few dollars. It's not worth it. They may make shoes for a business environment also. I do recall Dan P. posting that he had a steel toe pair for when he went on the floor of a manufacturing plant in Wisconsin when he worked there. Briggs Stratton, or perhaps Tecumseh, I think. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kohler. I knew it was a small engine plant. Funny story. Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: We had a shoe truck that came to the plant at Kohler once a month. Dan Sent from my iPad . I do recall Dan P. posting that he had a steel toe pair for when he went on the floor of a manufacturing plant in Wisconsin when he worked there. Briggs Stratton, or perhaps Tecumseh, I think. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Actually, I worked for the Generator Division. Even smaller plant than the Engine Division, only about 350 people total, including admin employees. Funny, cause the guy was really nice to me after that. Never did shine my shoes, though. Dan On Jan 3, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: Kohler. I knew it was a small engine plant. Funny story. Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: We had a shoe truck that came to the plant at Kohler once a month. Dan Sent from my iPad . I do recall Dan P. posting that he had a steel toe pair for when he went on the floor of a manufacturing plant in Wisconsin when he worked there. Briggs Stratton, or perhaps Tecumseh, I think. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com