Re: [MBZ] Today's Fun with 300SEL

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Youse guys are fulla ginger!


Craig via Mercedes 
April 28, 2017 at 10:05 PM
On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 18:28:11 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
  wrote:


OK, let’s let this shittake go.


Certainly, before we allspice go nutmegs.





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Re: [MBZ] Today's Fun with 300SEL

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 18:28:11 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> OK, let’s let this shittake go.

Certainly, before we allspice go nutmegs.




> > On Apr 28, 2017, at 6:21 PM, Craig via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:23:49 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> No need to tell me, I oregano.
> > 
> > Celery we stop this and get back to cardamom?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>> On Apr 28, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Sage advice.  Its about thyme you started using it.
> >>> 
> >>> --FT
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On 4/28/17 5:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>  Good to know.  I have boatloads of parsley growing in the garden…
>  
>  -D
>  
> >> 
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> > Craig
> > 
> > --
> > Present: '82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   285 kmi (Still need to fix leaking
> >oil pressure gauge and do
> >something about the failed
> >hood paint and attend to
> > the headlight switch -- and now I
> >need to do something about
> > the broken left rear trailing arm)
> > '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the
> > BRV, the Big Red Van)
> > 
> > Past:'95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
> > '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
> > '86 190E/2.3
> > '72 220/8
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Present: '82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   285 kmi (Still need to fix leaking
oil pressure gauge and do
something about the failed
hood paint and attend to the
headlight switch -- and now I
need to do something about the
broken left rear trailing arm)
 '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV,
 the Big Red Van)

Past:'95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
 '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
 '86 190E/2.3
 '72 220/8
 '64 190Dc  Emma
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Fun with 300SEL

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

OK, let’s let this shittake go.


> On Apr 28, 2017, at 6:21 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:23:49 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> No need to tell me, I oregano.
> 
> Celery we stop this and get back to cardamom?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sage advice.  Its about thyme you started using it.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 4/28/17 5:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Good to know.  I have boatloads of parsley growing in the garden…
 
 -D
 
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> Craig
> 
> --
> Present: '82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   285 kmi (Still need to fix leaking
>oil pressure gauge and do
>something about the failed
>hood paint and attend to the
>   headlight switch -- and now I
>need to do something about the
>broken left rear trailing arm)
> '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV,
> the Big Red Van)
> 
> Past:'95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
> '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
> '86 190E/2.3
> '72 220/8
> '64 190Dc  Emma
> '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Fun with 300SEL

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:23:49 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> No need to tell me, I oregano.

Celery we stop this and get back to cardamom?




> > On Apr 28, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Sage advice.  Its about thyme you started using it.
> > 
> > --FT
> > 
> > 
> > On 4/28/17 5:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Good to know.  I have boatloads of parsley growing in the garden…
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
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Present: '82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   285 kmi (Still need to fix leaking
oil pressure gauge and do
something about the failed
hood paint and attend to the
headlight switch -- and now I
need to do something about the
broken left rear trailing arm)
 '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV,
 the Big Red Van)

Past:'95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
 '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
 '86 190E/2.3
 '72 220/8
 '64 190Dc  Emma
 '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi

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Re: [MBZ] Today's Fun with 300SEL

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

No need to tell me, I oregano.


> On Apr 28, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sage advice.  Its about thyme you started using it.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 4/28/17 5:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Good to know.  I have boatloads of parsley growing in the garden…
>> 
>> -D
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] Today's Fun with 300SEL

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Sage advice.  Its about thyme you started using it.

--FT


On 4/28/17 5:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Good to know.  I have boatloads of parsley growing in the garden…

-D



On Apr 28, 2017, at 5:16 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

I've found that rubbing my hands with a wad of fresh parsley gets most of
the gasoline or Diesel stink off my hands. YMMV. Another reason to have a
bunch growing in the garden - - -

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 6:13 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


That’s why you always glove up, man.  Always.  Not to mention it keeps
your hands a lot cleaner…

-D



On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:39 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Not to mention how gasoline stinks and you can't get the stink off your

hands.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
April 27, 2017 at 9:07 PM
Yeah, I really hate doing fuel system work on a vergasser. Despite

having the fire extinguisher handy at all times, I always worry about
something bursting into flames…

-D

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“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Fun with 300SEL

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Good to know.  I have boatloads of parsley growing in the garden…

-D


> On Apr 28, 2017, at 5:16 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I've found that rubbing my hands with a wad of fresh parsley gets most of
> the gasoline or Diesel stink off my hands. YMMV. Another reason to have a
> bunch growing in the garden - - -
> 
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 6:13 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> That’s why you always glove up, man.  Always.  Not to mention it keeps
>> your hands a lot cleaner…
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:39 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not to mention how gasoline stinks and you can't get the stink off your
>> hands.
>>> 
 Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 April 27, 2017 at 9:07 PM
 Yeah, I really hate doing fuel system work on a vergasser. Despite
>> having the fire extinguisher handy at all times, I always worry about
>> something bursting into flames…
 
 -D
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> OK Don
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Fun with 300SEL

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I've found that rubbing my hands with a wad of fresh parsley gets most of
the gasoline or Diesel stink off my hands. YMMV. Another reason to have a
bunch growing in the garden - - -

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 6:13 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That’s why you always glove up, man.  Always.  Not to mention it keeps
> your hands a lot cleaner…
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:39 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Not to mention how gasoline stinks and you can't get the stink off your
> hands.
> >
> >> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> >> April 27, 2017 at 9:07 PM
> >> Yeah, I really hate doing fuel system work on a vergasser. Despite
> having the fire extinguisher handy at all times, I always worry about
> something bursting into flames…
> >>
> >> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Fun with 300SEL

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s why you always glove up, man.  Always.  Not to mention it keeps your 
hands a lot cleaner…

-D


> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:39 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Not to mention how gasoline stinks and you can't get the stink off your hands.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> April 27, 2017 at 9:07 PM
>> Yeah, I really hate doing fuel system work on a vergasser. Despite having 
>> the fire extinguisher handy at all times, I always worry about something 
>> bursting into flames…
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Fun with 300SEL

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Not to mention how gasoline stinks and you can't get the stink off your 
hands.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
April 27, 2017 at 9:07 PM
Yeah, I really hate doing fuel system work on a vergasser. Despite 
having the fire extinguisher handy at all times, I always worry about 
something bursting into flames…


-D


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Re: [MBZ] Today's Fun with 300SEL

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, I really hate doing fuel system work on a vergasser.  Despite having the 
fire extinguisher handy at all times, I always worry about something bursting 
into flames…

-D

> On Apr 27, 2017, at 9:56 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good work!  I am glad I dumped my vergassers before I had to do stuff like 
> that.
> 
> Diesel on.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> April 27, 2017 at 8:41 PM
>> As the weather forecast is saying it’s going to be hotter than heck this 
>> weekend, I figured I would go ahead and take a swing at replacing the air 
>> meter boot and injectors on the 300SEL when I got home today.
>> 
>> I started around 5:00 and finished around 8:00. It wasn’t a difficult job, 
>> just a lot of fiddly stuff.
>> 
>> I pulled the fuel distributor/air meter as a complete assembly, including 
>> the injector lines. Buy removing the wiring harness gutter I could lift the 
>> whole thing, lines and all, off the engine without a lot of effort. This 
>> went a long way in cutting down disassembly/reassembly time and also reduced 
>> the possibility of getting dirt in the injection lines.
>> 
>> The boot was intact and undamaged from what I could tell when I removed 
>> everything. So it was probably not my vacuum leak source. I replaced the 
>> hoses from the manifold to the idle air valve and on to the air meter 
>> housing as well. And yes, Peter, even with everything out of the way getting 
>> the hose on the intake manifold was a real PITA….
>> 
>> Pulled all of the injectors, O rings and plastic shields/housings. Nothing 
>> obvious wrong here other than the shields being really sooty or black. I’m 
>> not sure if that’s normal or not. Cleaned the injector bores in the head. 
>> Installed the new shields, O-rings and injectors.
>> 
>> Got the fuel distributor/air meter back on. Holy mother of pearl, getting 
>> the boot over the throttle valve was nothing short of a major undertaking 
>> and not something for those who are easily frustrated. Put the injector 
>> clamps and bolts in place, torqued everything and reconnected the injection 
>> lines. Reconnected the main fuel lines and fired it up.
>> 
>> Amazing. Idle is amazingly smooth. I can only suspect that the injectors 
>> that were in the engine were slobbering or had bad patterns. Acceleration is 
>> smooth, smooth, smooth as is cruising at speed. I test drove about 10-12 
>> miles and saw no change in the fuel level, so with the previous MPG being in 
>> the 10-12 mpg range I’m hoping things are much better with the new 
>> injectors. Vacuum is on the far left at idle, no indication of a vacuum leak 
>> from what I can see.
>> 
>> One observation: I didn’t disconnect the fuel pump to relieve pressure on 
>> the fuel system before I started. When I cracked the supply line, I didn’t 
>> get sprayed with fuel - it pretty much just dribbled out. With this in mind, 
>> am I correct in assuming the check valve at the pump/filter is bad? You do 
>> have to crank it for a few seconds when it’s been sitting, so that makes 
>> sense if it is bad…
>> 
>> I’ll drive it this weekend and see how the fuel consumption goes. Hopefully 
>> it’s far better than it has been.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Fun with 300SEL

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Good work!  I am glad I dumped my vergassers before I had to do stuff 
like that.


Diesel on.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
April 27, 2017 at 8:41 PM
As the weather forecast is saying it’s going to be hotter than heck 
this weekend, I figured I would go ahead and take a swing at replacing 
the air meter boot and injectors on the 300SEL when I got home today.


I started around 5:00 and finished around 8:00. It wasn’t a difficult 
job, just a lot of fiddly stuff.


I pulled the fuel distributor/air meter as a complete assembly, 
including the injector lines. Buy removing the wiring harness gutter I 
could lift the whole thing, lines and all, off the engine without a 
lot of effort. This went a long way in cutting down 
disassembly/reassembly time and also reduced the possibility of 
getting dirt in the injection lines.


The boot was intact and undamaged from what I could tell when I 
removed everything. So it was probably not my vacuum leak source. I 
replaced the hoses from the manifold to the idle air valve and on to 
the air meter housing as well. And yes, Peter, even with everything 
out of the way getting the hose on the intake manifold was a real PITA….


Pulled all of the injectors, O rings and plastic shields/housings. 
Nothing obvious wrong here other than the shields being really sooty 
or black. I’m not sure if that’s normal or not. Cleaned the injector 
bores in the head. Installed the new shields, O-rings and injectors.


Got the fuel distributor/air meter back on. Holy mother of pearl, 
getting the boot over the throttle valve was nothing short of a major 
undertaking and not something for those who are easily frustrated. Put 
the injector clamps and bolts in place, torqued everything and 
reconnected the injection lines. Reconnected the main fuel lines and 
fired it up.


Amazing. Idle is amazingly smooth. I can only suspect that the 
injectors that were in the engine were slobbering or had bad patterns. 
Acceleration is smooth, smooth, smooth as is cruising at speed. I test 
drove about 10-12 miles and saw no change in the fuel level, so with 
the previous MPG being in the 10-12 mpg range I’m hoping things are 
much better with the new injectors. Vacuum is on the far left at idle, 
no indication of a vacuum leak from what I can see.


One observation: I didn’t disconnect the fuel pump to relieve pressure 
on the fuel system before I started. When I cracked the supply line, I 
didn’t get sprayed with fuel - it pretty much just dribbled out. With 
this in mind, am I correct in assuming the check valve at the 
pump/filter is bad? You do have to crank it for a few seconds when 
it’s been sitting, so that makes sense if it is bad…


I’ll drive it this weekend and see how the fuel consumption goes. 
Hopefully it’s far better than it has been.


-D


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[MBZ] Today's Fun with 300SEL

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

As the weather forecast is saying it’s going to be hotter than heck this 
weekend, I figured I would go ahead and take a swing at replacing the air meter 
boot and injectors on the 300SEL when I got home today.

I started around 5:00 and finished around 8:00.  It wasn’t a difficult job, 
just a lot of fiddly stuff.

I pulled the fuel distributor/air meter as a complete assembly, including the 
injector lines.  Buy removing the wiring harness gutter I could lift the whole 
thing, lines and all, off the engine without a lot of effort.  This went a long 
way in cutting down disassembly/reassembly time and also reduced the 
possibility of getting dirt in the injection lines.

The boot was intact and undamaged from what I could tell when I removed 
everything. So it was probably not my vacuum leak source.  I replaced the hoses 
from the manifold to the idle air valve and on to the air meter housing as 
well.  And yes, Peter, even with everything out of the way getting the hose on 
the intake manifold was a real PITA….

Pulled all of the injectors, O rings and plastic shields/housings.  Nothing 
obvious wrong here other than the shields being really sooty or black.  I’m not 
sure if that’s normal or not.  Cleaned the injector bores in the head.  
Installed the new shields, O-rings and injectors.

Got the fuel distributor/air meter back on.  Holy mother of pearl, getting the 
boot over the throttle valve was nothing short of a major undertaking and not 
something for those who are easily frustrated.  Put the injector clamps and 
bolts in place, torqued everything and reconnected the injection lines.  
Reconnected the main fuel lines and fired it up.

Amazing.  Idle is amazingly smooth.  I can only suspect that the injectors that 
were in the engine were slobbering or had bad patterns.  Acceleration is 
smooth, smooth, smooth as is cruising at speed.  I test drove about 10-12 miles 
and saw no change in the fuel level, so with the previous MPG being in the 
10-12 mpg range I’m hoping things are much better with the new injectors.  
Vacuum is on the far left at idle, no indication of a vacuum leak from what I 
can see.

One observation:  I didn’t disconnect the fuel pump to relieve pressure on the 
fuel system before I started.  When I cracked the supply line, I didn’t get 
sprayed with fuel - it pretty much just dribbled out.  With this in mind, am I 
correct in assuming the check valve at the pump/filter is bad?  You do have to 
crank it for a few seconds when it’s been sitting, so that makes sense if it is 
bad…

I’ll drive it this weekend and see how the fuel consumption goes.  Hopefully 
it’s far better than it has been.

-D


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Nothing wrong with that, M1 would be my second choice.  Since this was on sale 
for less than M1, I jumped at the opportunity.  And it’s the factory 
recommended stuff, so you can’t go wrong with it.

Dan


> On Apr 16, 2016, at 10:23 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh Ok. I have been  using M1 ATF  in my 124 for over 140k miles.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI


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[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Oh Ok. I have been  using M1 ATF  in my 124 for over 140k miles.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Apr 16, 2016 10:19 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Febi 08971.
>
> Jaime was kind enough to point out the sale FCPEuro had a week ago Friday
> for $7.11/liter.  I bought 10 at that price, and free shipping, too!
>
> Dan
>
> > On Apr 16, 2016, at 10:14 PM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
> >
> > Dan.
> > What type of ATF did you  use? You remind me that I need to  put the
> belly pans back on my 90  300D.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > 1982 300CD
> > 1990 300D
> > Wickford RI
> >
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Febi 08971.

Jaime was kind enough to point out the sale FCPEuro had a week ago Friday for 
$7.11/liter.  I bought 10 at that price, and free shipping, too!

Dan
 
> On Apr 16, 2016, at 10:14 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> Dan.
> What type of ATF did you  use? You remind me that I need to  put the belly 
> pans back on my 90  300D.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI
> 

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[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Dan.
What type of ATF did you  use? You remind me that I need to  put the belly
pans back on my 90  300D.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Apr 16, 2016 9:50 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

Did a transmission fluid and filter change with Febi fluid and filter.
Probably wasn’t needed, but at least now I have a point of reference for
future fluid and filter changes.  Car does shift a little better.

The other thing I did as a part of this was to install the front “noise
capsule” or forward belly pan that was missing when I got the car.

Wilton was kind enough to offer the belly pan from his former 350SDL that
he just happened to have.  I had the hardware in my “box ‘o’ Mercedes
hardware” so that was nice.

The difference in the noise level of the engine with the panel in place was
amazing.  I can’t believe how much quieter the car is with this panel
installed.  Now I understand why Mercedes refers to them as “noise
capsules”.

A big “Thanks!” to Wilton for offering the part to me.  Now it’s in a place
where it can continue its job for many more miles.

Dan
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[MBZ] Today's Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Did a transmission fluid and filter change with Febi fluid and filter. Probably 
wasn’t needed, but at least now I have a point of reference for future fluid 
and filter changes.  Car does shift a little better.

The other thing I did as a part of this was to install the front “noise 
capsule” or forward belly pan that was missing when I got the car.

Wilton was kind enough to offer the belly pan from his former 350SDL that he 
just happened to have.  I had the hardware in my “box ‘o’ Mercedes hardware” so 
that was nice.

The difference in the noise level of the engine with the panel in place was 
amazing.  I can’t believe how much quieter the car is with this panel 
installed.  Now I understand why Mercedes refers to them as “noise capsules”.

A big “Thanks!” to Wilton for offering the part to me.  Now it’s in a place 
where it can continue its job for many more miles.

Dan
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[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

ATABOY DAN.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Mar 31, 2016 8:39 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Oldest son texts me today that his car (1998 S420) is running rough and is
> throwing a CEL.  Hmm.  I get home and he starts it up. Sounds OK, but he
> points out that there is some vibration at idle and it seems to be a little
> sluggish.
>
> I pop the DAS computer on it, run a full set of diagnostics, and the first
> thing I see is a P303 error.  Ah-hah!  Bad #3 coil.
>
> Weird brand coil on Amazon is under $30, but won’t get here until Saturday
> since it’s too late to make their next day cutoff.  I dig into Advance
> Auto’s web site and find a store nearby that has one along with a new boot
> (most places sell these things sans boot, or so it seems.)
>
> Between a 30% off coupon and a $5 SpeedPerks coupon I have the whole bill
> is around $70 out the door.
>
> Get home, pop the hood, in under 10 minutes a new coil is installed and he
> claims it’s never felt smoother.  He says he thinks it’s been going out
> over a period of time.
>
> I love those easy fixes.
>
> Coming up this weekend on the W126:
>
> Transmission mount, center vent vacuum actuator and new breather pipe and
> O-ring.
>
> Dan
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[MBZ] Today's Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Oldest son texts me today that his car (1998 S420) is running rough and is 
throwing a CEL.  Hmm.  I get home and he starts it up. Sounds OK, but he points 
out that there is some vibration at idle and it seems to be a little sluggish.

I pop the DAS computer on it, run a full set of diagnostics, and the first 
thing I see is a P303 error.  Ah-hah!  Bad #3 coil.

Weird brand coil on Amazon is under $30, but won’t get here until Saturday 
since it’s too late to make their next day cutoff.  I dig into Advance Auto’s 
web site and find a store nearby that has one along with a new boot (most 
places sell these things sans boot, or so it seems.)

Between a 30% off coupon and a $5 SpeedPerks coupon I have the whole bill is 
around $70 out the door.

Get home, pop the hood, in under 10 minutes a new coil is installed and he 
claims it’s never felt smoother.  He says he thinks it’s been going out over a 
period of time.

I love those easy fixes.

Coming up this weekend on the W126:

Transmission mount, center vent vacuum actuator and new breather pipe and 
O-ring.

Dan
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[MBZ] Today's Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Looking for some low impact stuff to do today.

I had a meter of power steering return line I wanted to get installed, as the 
W126’s power steering return lines were mushy and look like they have been 
seeping for a while.  I also wanted to drain and refill the power steering 
system with fresh MB power steering fluid, too.

Got that done.  Easy, low impact, a little messy but took me all of maybe a 
half hour.

After replacing the grommets on the windshield and headlight washer pumps a few 
weeks ago, I noticed the other day when I ran into some rain that the 
windshield washer was really weak.  I figured I might have a clogged line or 
nozzle, so while I had the hood up I figured I would put some power to the pump 
as well as run some low pressure air through the lines to see what’s up.

I ran the washer once before I started, and as before, it was pretty wimpy, 
barely making it onto the glass.

When I got back under the hood, I noticed some liquid near the passenger side 
hood hinge.  Ah-ha! The washer line was cracked from age at the hood hinge.

So I pulled the outer jacket back and separated the halves of the washer hose 
as much as I could (remember, this is the hose that has the wires for the 
nozzle heaters in it.)  I found a plastic vacuum line straight through fitting 
that was the right size, and was able to separate the hose halves far enough to 
get it inserted well into both sides.  After drying it off and wiping the hose 
and outer jacket off with some 3M Adhesive Remover, I wrapped the hose with 
some 3M electrical tape, then did the same with the outer jacket as well.

Windshield washer is working as intended now, spraying vigorously.

It’s starting to warm up here, probably into the 80s today with pretty high 
humidity due to a couple of days of rain.  I might work on removing the 
pinstripe if I feel like doing anything else today…

Dan
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[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep, 'nother ATTABOY!

Wilt

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To: "Mercedes List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: "Dan Penoff" <dpen...@verizon.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Today's Fun


Started out with a cooling system drain and flush to get all the nasty 
stuff out.  Ran some errands and the cooling system was dead nuts on 85C 
the whole time. Nice!


Decided I would tackle the motor mounts this afternoon.

Driver’s side came out in a heartbeat.  Fasteners were at torque, nothing 
stuck, just the requisite “snap” to break things loose and out they came. 
Took all of maybe 10 minutes.


Moved to the passenger side.  Ugh. Turbo and exhaust in the way.  Bottom 
bolt came loose no problem, one of the top bolts with about three feet of 
extension on the ratchet, pop and out it came.  Then the back bolt. 
Appeared to be nearly impossible to reach from any direction until I 
started poking around and found that I could reach my arm into the opening 
where the tie rod came through the bottom shield.  A little tight, but 
after a few minutes I was able to get the last bolt out.


The driver’s side mount wasn’t collapsed too much, maybe an 1/8” or a 
little bit more, but the passenger side was deflected more than a 1/4”, 
which I thought was pretty substantial.  The rubber was cracked in several 
places as well.  Strangely enough, the heat shield on the passenger side 
mount is much smaller, which I thought was sort of weird since the turbo 
is directly above it.


So while the car is cold and sitting level again, I’m draining the cooling 
system for the last time before filing it with Water Wetter and a 50-50 
premix of MB coolant.


The oak trees are starting to come into season, meaning everything is 
coated with a film of oak pollen, including my car.  Guuess I might try 
and sneak a wash in tonight before it gets dark…


Dan
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[MBZ] Today's Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Started out with a cooling system drain and flush to get all the nasty stuff 
out.  Ran some errands and the cooling system was dead nuts on 85C the whole 
time. Nice!

Decided I would tackle the motor mounts this afternoon.

Driver’s side came out in a heartbeat.  Fasteners were at torque, nothing 
stuck, just the requisite “snap” to break things loose and out they came.  Took 
all of maybe 10 minutes.

Moved to the passenger side.  Ugh. Turbo and exhaust in the way.  Bottom bolt 
came loose no problem, one of the top bolts with about three feet of extension 
on the ratchet, pop and out it came.  Then the back bolt.  Appeared to be 
nearly impossible to reach from any direction until I started poking around and 
found that I could reach my arm into the opening where the tie rod came through 
the bottom shield.  A little tight, but after a few minutes I was able to get 
the last bolt out.

The driver’s side mount wasn’t collapsed too much, maybe an 1/8” or a little 
bit more, but the passenger side was deflected more than a 1/4”, which I 
thought was pretty substantial.  The rubber was cracked in several places as 
well.  Strangely enough, the heat shield on the passenger side mount is much 
smaller, which I thought was sort of weird since the turbo is directly above it.

So while the car is cold and sitting level again, I’m draining the cooling 
system for the last time before filing it with Water Wetter and a 50-50 premix 
of MB coolant.

The oak trees are starting to come into season, meaning everything is coated 
with a film of oak pollen, including my car.  Guuess I might try and sneak a 
wash in tonight before it gets dark…

Dan
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[WILTON via Mercedes]

'Nother ATTABOY!

Wilt

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Cc: "Dan Penoff" <dpen...@verizon.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 7:34 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Today's Fun


After scraping the hood down for the future hood pad installation, I began 
to do the thermostat swap.


Despite Curly’s warnings about it being tight, it was really easy to get 
to from below.  The bottom bolt came right out with minimal effort and the 
top bolt was actually easier to break loose from above and then run it out 
by hand from below.  Start to finish it took me under 30 minutes.


One thing I did find that I’ve never encountered before on a Mercedes:  I 
went to install the thermostat, and being attentive to the position of the 
bleed valve, I attempted to insert the thermostat with the bleed valve 
facing up, as I have on every other engine I’ve ever replaced a thermostat 
on.


It wouldn’t go in.  Strange.

I compared it to the old thermostat, and noticed that there is a cutout in 
the part of the thermostat that is the main metal disc.  I looked in the 
thermostat housing, and sure enough, there is a projection on the inside 
of the housing that interfaces with this notch.  I rotated the thermostat 
to align with the notch, and in it went.  I did note that the bleed valve 
was now positioned around the 3:00 o’clock position when the housing was 
bolted up to the engine.


Other than that I took note that the car had the evil green stuff in it, 
which was strange, as it didn’t look green in the reservoir.  I filled it 
back up with water, because this is Florida.  I’ll drive it tomorrow a 
little, drain it out, fill it with water again, drain it, then put the 
good MB stuff (which is now blue) in it along with a bottle of 
WaterWetter.


After that was done I took the car for a short drive around the 
neighborhood. The temp came right up to 85C, spiked up to about 110C for a 
minute, then came right back down to 85C and stayed there like the needle 
was nailed in place.  This proves that the old thermostat was definitely 
toast, as it wouldn’t get to 85C if I drove it with my foot to the floor 
for 3-4 miles.  It would also drop down to 60C when I came to a stop or 
idled for more than a minute or two.


After all this was done it was time for some fun stuff.

I pulled the aftermarket radio nightmare and the ACC panel as the ACC unit 
had a lamp out.  Replaced the lamp and got the panel back in place. 
Installed an ashtray I snagged on eBay in what remains of the opening for 
it.  Nothing to anchor it to, as the black plastic bar that goes across 
the bottom of the opening is gone.


Once that was in place I got the aftermarket radio jammed in the radio 
opening with nothing holding it in place.  his is also due to the hack who 
put the radio in cutting out the plastic “box” all everything that went 
with it to install the aftermarket radio.  I’m not sure what, of anything, 
I can do to restore some of the stuff they cut out.  At least for now it 
looks stock again and doesn’t have the gosh awful box the radio was 
installed in.


Had some stainless steel screws for the license plate but they were too 
small.  I got #8s and looks like they’re #10s.  Trip to the Ace tomorrow.


Dan
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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Well done.  The radiator on my 1985 300TS has a small unrepairable leak.
Should I swap in a good used OEM radiator or buy a new aftermarket one?

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:58 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Radio: are you going to try a Continental?
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
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[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Radio: are you going to try a Continental?
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 19:34:44 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Had some stainless steel screws for the license plate but they were too
> small.  I got #8s and looks like they’re #10s.  Trip to the Ace
> tomorrow.

SAE thread, or metric?


Craig

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[MBZ] Today's Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

After scraping the hood down for the future hood pad installation, I began to 
do the thermostat swap.

Despite Curly’s warnings about it being tight, it was really easy to get to 
from below.  The bottom bolt came right out with minimal effort and the top 
bolt was actually easier to break loose from above and then run it out by hand 
from below.  Start to finish it took me under 30 minutes.

One thing I did find that I’ve never encountered before on a Mercedes:  I went 
to install the thermostat, and being attentive to the position of the bleed 
valve, I attempted to insert the thermostat with the bleed valve facing up, as 
I have on every other engine I’ve ever replaced a thermostat on.

It wouldn’t go in.  Strange.

I compared it to the old thermostat, and noticed that there is a cutout in the 
part of the thermostat that is the main metal disc.  I looked in the thermostat 
housing, and sure enough, there is a projection on the inside of the housing 
that interfaces with this notch.  I rotated the thermostat to align with the 
notch, and in it went.  I did note that the bleed valve was now positioned 
around the 3:00 o’clock position when the housing was bolted up to the engine.

Other than that I took note that the car had the evil green stuff in it, which 
was strange, as it didn’t look green in the reservoir.  I filled it back up 
with water, because this is Florida.  I’ll drive it tomorrow a little, drain it 
out, fill it with water again, drain it, then put the good MB stuff (which is 
now blue) in it along with a bottle of WaterWetter.

After that was done I took the car for a short drive around the neighborhood. 
The temp came right up to 85C, spiked up to about 110C for a minute, then came 
right back down to 85C and stayed there like the needle was nailed in place.  
This proves that the old thermostat was definitely toast, as it wouldn’t get to 
85C if I drove it with my foot to the floor for 3-4 miles.  It would also drop 
down to 60C when I came to a stop or idled for more than a minute or two.

After all this was done it was time for some fun stuff.

I pulled the aftermarket radio nightmare and the ACC panel as the ACC unit had 
a lamp out.  Replaced the lamp and got the panel back in place.  Installed an 
ashtray I snagged on eBay in what remains of the opening for it.  Nothing to 
anchor it to, as the black plastic bar that goes across the bottom of the 
opening is gone.

Once that was in place I got the aftermarket radio jammed in the radio opening 
with nothing holding it in place.  his is also due to the hack who put the 
radio in cutting out the plastic “box” all everything that went with it to 
install the aftermarket radio.  I’m not sure what, of anything, I can do to 
restore some of the stuff they cut out.  At least for now it looks stock again 
and doesn’t have the gosh awful box the radio was installed in.

Had some stainless steel screws for the license plate but they were too small.  
I got #8s and looks like they’re #10s.  Trip to the Ace tomorrow.

Dan
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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Got a used window regulator for the driver’s window, which does the 
“pop-pop-pop” and doesn’t go all the way up.

Removed the inner door panel and was pleased to see that not too many of the 
top edge hooks were broken off - only 3 of 5.  Everything else was intact, and 
the interior of the door very clean and dry. Even the moisture barrier was 
still glued in place from the factory from what I could tell.

I discovered that there are early and late window regulators, too.  I had an 
early one form the knackers, my car, as you would expect, used the later 
version. Dang it.

Once again Amazon Prime comes to the rescue.  New Dorman regulator for $45 by 
Monday, another $5 to have it tomorrow.  I ponied up the difference since it 
would give me a day to leave the inner door panel off and allow me to glue the 
tabs back on the door at the top.  The speaker grille had a couple of hooks 
broken on it, all of which I was able to recover from inside as well.  These 
have been glued and are drying, waiting to be reinstalled tomorrow after I get 
the new regulator in.

Nice to see the later W126 models have speaker enclosures on the door, which 
not only make things sound better, they protect the back of the speaker from 
the elements that might make it inside the door.

Dan
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[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Dan wrote:
> 
> Still not sure about this battery issue.  Getting about
> 13.8 VDC at the battery terminals at idle, which seems a
> little low.

It is low.  But when the alternator is spinning slow, it's
output voltage can be low if the load is high.

Far more significant is with the engine spinning faster, does
the voltage ever get to 14.4 V?

> Just as a precaution I tossed my jumper cables into the
> trunk.

Really?   Does that mean you usually do _not_ have jumper
cables in the car?

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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Got tires on the car.  Couldn’t start it after they were done.  Had to put 
their roll around charger on it for 15 minutes and it cranked right up.

Brought it home and started in on the AC, which was in need as it was low.  It 
did build up pressure but not enough to get the low pressure switch to close.  
I evacuated the system and pulled a vacuum - 30" instantly.  I left the pump on 
it for about 45 minutes, then closed off the valves and turned off the pump a 
couple hours later it was still holding a vacuum.

So I charge it. Dump a couple of cans into it, getting about 45-50 degrees in 
the center vent at 1500-2000 rpm. Good.

Go to pull the service gauges off and the low pressure Schrader valve sticks 
open. Dang it!  I get the service valves back on it, but it lost enough that 
it’s not cooling.  I operate the service valves a couple of times and now it 
seems to hold.

I ordered a set of valve cores and new caps for delivery tomorrow.  Thank you, 
Amazon!

Still not sure about this battery issue.  Getting about 13.8 VDC at the battery 
terminals at idle, which seems a little low.  I’m charging the MB battery up to 
see how it works out.  Just as a precaution I tossed my jumper cables into the 
trunk. I’ll back into my spot at work tomorrow, too, just in case.

Now I think I’ll dig into the cruise control after I put a new G. Daimler 
sticker on the windshield.  The original was totally cooked and shrunk about 
10%.  Will probably do some interior cleaning, too - I haven’t yet pulled the 
back seat to see what kind of surprises there might be there….

Dan
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