Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
I think you are allowed to say toilet, just don't shoot your gun while saying toilet. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: "Hendrik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 8/20/07 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels That or a large dog using the wheels as a toilet (I am allowed to say toilet?), a friend of ours had the wheels of her Hyundai rusted on so tight I had to take the wheel off with the hub and then use my medium hammer and a big punch to persuade it to come apart. Tom Hargrave wrote: > Yep, a little salt & water goes a long way - the parts actually bond > together. > > Tom > www.kegkits.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
That or a large dog using the wheels as a toilet (I am allowed to say toilet?), a friend of ours had the wheels of her Hyundai rusted on so tight I had to take the wheel off with the hub and then use my medium hammer and a big punch to persuade it to come apart. Tom Hargrave wrote: > Yep, a little salt & water goes a long way - the parts actually bond > together. > > Tom > www.kegkits.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
Aero Kroil is your friend www.kanolabs.com Soak the glow plugs down overnight with that stuff, a couple of days if really stuck. Definitely use antisieze compound on the new ones. I personally like the stuff that Liqui Moly makes, the copper base. GPs come right out of aluminum or iron heads without a fuss. -Robert andrew strasfogel wrote: > Is the same true about glow plugs? I wanted to install new ones this > weekend (1983 300TD) but they were in so tight I was afraid of doing > serious damage in case they were "frozen" in place. Is it possible these > are the original GPs? I haven't changed them since purchaseing the vehicle > in 1989! I also discovered a split CV boot. What's the best way to deal > with that? > > > > On 8/20/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Yep, a little salt & water goes a long way - the parts actually bond >> together. >> >> Tom >> www.kegkits.com >> >> Original Message >> From: Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: 08/20/07 01:43 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Mercedes Discussion List >> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels >> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Robert Bigham wrote: >> >>> I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with >>> loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub. Wow. >>> >> Happens routinely in the rust belt! >> >> Marshall >> -- >> Marshall Booth Ph.D. >> Ass't Prof. (ret.) >> Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
Is the same true about glow plugs? I wanted to install new ones this weekend (1983 300TD) but they were in so tight I was afraid of doing serious damage in case they were "frozen" in place. Is it possible these are the original GPs? I haven't changed them since purchaseing the vehicle in 1989! I also discovered a split CV boot. What's the best way to deal with that? On 8/20/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yep, a little salt & water goes a long way - the parts actually bond > together. > > Tom > www.kegkits.com > > Original Message > From: Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 08/20/07 01:43 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Robert Bigham wrote: > > I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with > > loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub. Wow. > > Happens routinely in the rust belt! > > Marshall > -- > Marshall Booth Ph.D. > Ass't Prof. (ret.) > Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
Yep, a little salt & water goes a long way - the parts actually bond together. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 08/20/07 01:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Robert Bigham wrote: > I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with > loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub. Wow. Happens routinely in the rust belt! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
Robert Bigham wrote: > I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with > loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub. Wow. Happens routinely in the rust belt! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
This was probably not one of my better ideas, or one that's very good for the bolts or rim, but as I was once told, you do what you gotta do, and this was one of those times. Steel wheel was really stuck on a friends car, wouldn't come off with any amount of pounding. So, we back the nuts off enough on the ground to give a few mm of play between the back of the wheel and the hub. Jacked the car, and then dropped it!! That's all it took. Again, not somethign I recommend, but we were doing a lot of work on that car, and changing many bits, so if we bent anything, we planned to just add it to the list. Ed 300E On 20/08/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My uncle got a flat on his Ford F150 one time way back in the woods and > couldn't get the wheel off the hub for love or money. > Drove 3 miles with no lugnuts at all. Finally a logger came along with a > sledge and broke the aluminum wheel that had stuck to the drum. > > Of course the truck was 2 years old with 30,000 miles and had never had a > wheel off. Now he gets the tires rotated... > > -Curt > > > Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:11:57 -0500 > From: "Robert Bigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with > loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub. Wow. > > How could anti sieze hurt? Use it. I use it on just about > everything unless the manufacturer specifies a sealer or > adhesive on the bolt or joint. Anti sieze is one of the great > inventions of the age of old cars. > > Don't put it on too thick, or it will run radially and could wind > up splattered on the brake dust inside the rim. And the problem > then would be ? > > > > > - > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
My uncle got a flat on his Ford F150 one time way back in the woods and couldn't get the wheel off the hub for love or money. Drove 3 miles with no lugnuts at all. Finally a logger came along with a sledge and broke the aluminum wheel that had stuck to the drum. Of course the truck was 2 years old with 30,000 miles and had never had a wheel off. Now he gets the tires rotated... -Curt Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:11:57 -0500 From: "Robert Bigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub. Wow. How could anti sieze hurt? Use it. I use it on just about everything unless the manufacturer specifies a sealer or adhesive on the bolt or joint. Anti sieze is one of the great inventions of the age of old cars. Don't put it on too thick, or it will run radially and could wind up splattered on the brake dust inside the rim. And the problem then would be ? - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
Also, we should not forget that the torque required to break a bolt loose may be only vaguely unrelated to the torque to which it was tightened. Corrosion, heat, and all that. - Original Message - From: E M To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 8/19/2007 10:56:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels I've read about 85 f/lbs dry. When I had to put a 3 foot length of pipe on the wrench to get enough torque on it to remove them, I couldn't believe, even with an air gun, some idiot could get them on that tight! While cheaning the inside of the rim, once off, it gave me a chance to see just what a great piece of engineer that wheel is. It looks pretty plain on the outside, but a lot of thougth went into that wheel. I think they spent more money engineering the clip ring for the benz star in the centre, than most companies spend in R & D for the whole front corner suspension. :-) Ed 300E On 19/08/07, Robert Bigham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 250 ft lb is way too much torque on spherical collar screws holding on steel or alloy road wheels. My Daimler Benz Passenger Car Technical Data book says tighten them to 110 NM, equal roughly to 81 ft lb if I didn't botch the conversion. No wonder they are hard to get off when torqued to 250 ft lb. The wonder is that they survive being so overtightened without damage to screw, wheel, or hub. "Engineered like no other car" - Original Message - From: E M To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 8/19/2007 5:08:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels Oh, the wheel didn't have a problem sitting flush with the hub, but when you torque the bolts to about 250 or more f/lbs, it's amazing how two things can kind of stick themselves together! :-) ( Note to me: never never leave the car unattended at the garage!! I should know this by now!) All fixed now and it allowed me to give the inside of the wheel a good detailing too. Just have to do the other three now. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
Funny thing is, I had the wheel on the other side off about 2 weeks ago just to take a quick look at the pads. The bolts on that side felt over tight too, but nothing like the other side, and the rim came right off without any trouble. Maybe I should upgrade to a set of F1 rims with a single centre lock nut. :-) Save a lot of trouble. lol Ed 300E On 20/08/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A lot of people don't realize that a torqued fastener takes more torque to > remove than it took to tighten. I've had to remove lug bolts that I've > tightened myself to 85 lb ft with a 4' pipe. The impact wrench would not > make them budge. > > This happened recently on my 01 Jeep Grand Cherokee. I was doing the front > brakes and none of the lug nuts on the right, front wheel would budge. And > I > was the last one with the wheels off - I rotated the tires front to back. > Obviously something was going on because none of the lug nuts would budge > but it wasn't the way they were tightened. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of E M > Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:57 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels > > I've read about 85 f/lbs dry. When I had to put a 3 foot length of pipe > on > the wrench to get enough torque on it to remove them, I couldn't believe, > even with an air gun, some idiot could get them on that tight! While > cheaning the inside of the rim, once off, it gave me a chance to see just > what a great piece of engineer that wheel is. It looks pretty plain on > the > outside, but a lot of thougth went into that wheel. I think they spent > more > money engineering the clip ring for the benz star in the centre, than most > companies spend in R & D for the whole front corner suspension. :-) > > Ed > 300E > On 19/08/07, Robert Bigham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 250 ft lb is way too much torque on spherical collar screws holding on > > steel > > or alloy road wheels. > > > > My Daimler Benz Passenger Car Technical Data book says tighten them > > to 110 NM, equal roughly to 81 ft lb if I didn't botch the conversion. > > > > No wonder they are hard to get off when torqued to 250 ft lb. The wonder > > is > > that they survive being so overtightened without damage to screw, wheel, > > or hub. > > > > "Engineered like no other car" > > > > - Original Message - > > > > *From:* E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To: *Mercedes Discussion List *Cc: * > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* 8/19/2007 5:08:52 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels > > > > Oh, the wheel didn't have a problem sitting flush with the hub, but when > > you torque the bolts to about 250 or more f/lbs, it's amazing how two > things > > can kind of stick themselves together! :-) ( Note to me: never never > leave > > the car unattended at the garage!! I should know this by now!) All > fixed > > now and it allowed me to give the inside of the wheel a good detailing > too. > > Just have to do the other three now. > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
To be honest, with a 3 foot length of pipe, I had to "jerk" the pipe to break them lose. Even after allowing them to heat sink, they were by far the tightest lugbolts I have ever felt. I really was worried that the wheel was damaged, but it seems ok, no visable hairline cracks anyway. Ed 300E On 19/08/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't think he was serious about the 250 ft lb, just stressing the fact > that they were way over-torqued. > > That's OK, I was an Engineer once but now I'm a "Recovering Engineer". > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Robert Bigham > Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:09 PM > To: E M; mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels > > 250 ft lb is way too much torque on spherical collar screws holding on > steel > > or alloy road wheels. > > My Daimler Benz Passenger Car Technical Data book says tighten them > to 110 NM, equal roughly to 81 ft lb if I didn't botch the conversion. > > No wonder they are hard to get off when torqued to 250 ft lb. The wonder > is > that they survive being so overtightened without damage to screw, wheel, > or > hub. > > "Engineered like no other car" > > - Original Message - > From: E M > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 8/19/2007 5:08:52 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels > > > Oh, the wheel didn't have a problem sitting flush with the hub, but when > you > torque the bolts to about 250 or more f/lbs, it's amazing how two things > can > kind of stick themselves together! :-) ( Note to me: never never leave > the > car unattended at the garage!! I should know this by now!) All fixed now > and it allowed me to give the inside of the wheel a good detailing too. > Just have to do the other three now. > > Ed > 300E > > > On 19/08/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yu have another problem - the wheel should sit flush with the hub with no > interference. With the last one of these I had, the lip on the inside of > the > wheel was damaged. > > Adding anti-seize is just working around the issue. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Robert Bigham > Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 4:12 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels > > I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with > loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub. Wow. > > How could anti sieze hurt? Use it. I use it on just about > everything unless the manufacturer specifies a sealer or > adhesive on the bolt or joint. Anti sieze is one of the great > inventions of the age of old cars. > > Don't put it on too thick, or it will run radially and could wind > up splattered on the brake dust inside the rim. And the problem > then would be ? > > > Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:25:08 -0400 > Subject: [MBZ] Stuck wheel! > > "E M" < [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote > > Took one of the wheels on the front of the W124 the other day. The guy in > shop had it on SO tight, I had to use a pipe on the wrench to get the > bolts > off!!! Once the bolts were off, the wheel was stuck to the hub. AH! After > finally getting it off, but driving it, using the brakes hard and allowing > it to heat sink a little, oh yeah, plus some pounding on the tires with a > hammer against a piece of wood, it came off. There was some light rust on > the hub. I cleaned it off with steelwoo, and also the big of rust that was > on the aluminum rim. No, the rim didn't rust, hee hee, but the rim was on > so tight, the rust from the hub was imbedded in the rim!! > > So, the question, I know we recently had a chat about anti-stick paste on > lug bolts, but what are the thoughts about some on the back of the rim, > where it meets the hub, or more accuratly, I guess it's the face of the > rotor? I do this with other cars with steel rims, but haven't do some in > the past with aluminum rims. Any thoughts? > > Thanks, > Ed > 300E > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
A lot of people don't realize that a torqued fastener takes more torque to remove than it took to tighten. I've had to remove lug bolts that I've tightened myself to 85 lb ft with a 4' pipe. The impact wrench would not make them budge. This happened recently on my 01 Jeep Grand Cherokee. I was doing the front brakes and none of the lug nuts on the right, front wheel would budge. And I was the last one with the wheels off - I rotated the tires front to back. Obviously something was going on because none of the lug nuts would budge but it wasn't the way they were tightened. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels I've read about 85 f/lbs dry. When I had to put a 3 foot length of pipe on the wrench to get enough torque on it to remove them, I couldn't believe, even with an air gun, some idiot could get them on that tight! While cheaning the inside of the rim, once off, it gave me a chance to see just what a great piece of engineer that wheel is. It looks pretty plain on the outside, but a lot of thougth went into that wheel. I think they spent more money engineering the clip ring for the benz star in the centre, than most companies spend in R & D for the whole front corner suspension. :-) Ed 300E On 19/08/07, Robert Bigham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 250 ft lb is way too much torque on spherical collar screws holding on > steel > or alloy road wheels. > > My Daimler Benz Passenger Car Technical Data book says tighten them > to 110 NM, equal roughly to 81 ft lb if I didn't botch the conversion. > > No wonder they are hard to get off when torqued to 250 ft lb. The wonder > is > that they survive being so overtightened without damage to screw, wheel, > or hub. > > "Engineered like no other car" > > - Original Message - > > *From:* E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To: *Mercedes Discussion List *Cc: * > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* 8/19/2007 5:08:52 PM > *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels > > Oh, the wheel didn't have a problem sitting flush with the hub, but when > you torque the bolts to about 250 or more f/lbs, it's amazing how two things > can kind of stick themselves together! :-) ( Note to me: never never leave > the car unattended at the garage!! I should know this by now!) All fixed > now and it allowed me to give the inside of the wheel a good detailing too. > Just have to do the other three now. > > Ed > 300E > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
I've read about 85 f/lbs dry. When I had to put a 3 foot length of pipe on the wrench to get enough torque on it to remove them, I couldn't believe, even with an air gun, some idiot could get them on that tight! While cheaning the inside of the rim, once off, it gave me a chance to see just what a great piece of engineer that wheel is. It looks pretty plain on the outside, but a lot of thougth went into that wheel. I think they spent more money engineering the clip ring for the benz star in the centre, than most companies spend in R & D for the whole front corner suspension. :-) Ed 300E On 19/08/07, Robert Bigham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 250 ft lb is way too much torque on spherical collar screws holding on > steel > or alloy road wheels. > > My Daimler Benz Passenger Car Technical Data book says tighten them > to 110 NM, equal roughly to 81 ft lb if I didn't botch the conversion. > > No wonder they are hard to get off when torqued to 250 ft lb. The wonder > is > that they survive being so overtightened without damage to screw, wheel, > or hub. > > "Engineered like no other car" > > - Original Message - > > *From:* E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To: *Mercedes Discussion List *Cc: * > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* 8/19/2007 5:08:52 PM > *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels > > Oh, the wheel didn't have a problem sitting flush with the hub, but when > you torque the bolts to about 250 or more f/lbs, it's amazing how two things > can kind of stick themselves together! :-) ( Note to me: never never leave > the car unattended at the garage!! I should know this by now!) All fixed > now and it allowed me to give the inside of the wheel a good detailing too. > Just have to do the other three now. > > Ed > 300E > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
I don't think he was serious about the 250 ft lb, just stressing the fact that they were way over-torqued. That's OK, I was an Engineer once but now I'm a "Recovering Engineer". Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Bigham Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:09 PM To: E M; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels 250 ft lb is way too much torque on spherical collar screws holding on steel or alloy road wheels. My Daimler Benz Passenger Car Technical Data book says tighten them to 110 NM, equal roughly to 81 ft lb if I didn't botch the conversion. No wonder they are hard to get off when torqued to 250 ft lb. The wonder is that they survive being so overtightened without damage to screw, wheel, or hub. "Engineered like no other car" - Original Message - From: E M To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 8/19/2007 5:08:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels Oh, the wheel didn't have a problem sitting flush with the hub, but when you torque the bolts to about 250 or more f/lbs, it's amazing how two things can kind of stick themselves together! :-) ( Note to me: never never leave the car unattended at the garage!! I should know this by now!) All fixed now and it allowed me to give the inside of the wheel a good detailing too. Just have to do the other three now. Ed 300E On 19/08/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yu have another problem - the wheel should sit flush with the hub with no interference. With the last one of these I had, the lip on the inside of the wheel was damaged. Adding anti-seize is just working around the issue. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Bigham Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 4:12 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub. Wow. How could anti sieze hurt? Use it. I use it on just about everything unless the manufacturer specifies a sealer or adhesive on the bolt or joint. Anti sieze is one of the great inventions of the age of old cars. Don't put it on too thick, or it will run radially and could wind up splattered on the brake dust inside the rim. And the problem then would be ? Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:25:08 -0400 Subject: [MBZ] Stuck wheel! "E M" < [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Took one of the wheels on the front of the W124 the other day. The guy in shop had it on SO tight, I had to use a pipe on the wrench to get the bolts off!!! Once the bolts were off, the wheel was stuck to the hub. AH! After finally getting it off, but driving it, using the brakes hard and allowing it to heat sink a little, oh yeah, plus some pounding on the tires with a hammer against a piece of wood, it came off. There was some light rust on the hub. I cleaned it off with steelwoo, and also the big of rust that was on the aluminum rim. No, the rim didn't rust, hee hee, but the rim was on so tight, the rust from the hub was imbedded in the rim!! So, the question, I know we recently had a chat about anti-stick paste on lug bolts, but what are the thoughts about some on the back of the rim, where it meets the hub, or more accuratly, I guess it's the face of the rotor? I do this with other cars with steel rims, but haven't do some in the past with aluminum rims. Any thoughts? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
I'm glad to hear you are not that brave. Some of the listers are. - Original Message - From: E M To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Mercedes Discussion List Sent: 8/19/2007 5:03:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels Hee hee, I should have proof read that Robert. I drove the car, and "then" allowed it to heat sink before before trying the bolts again!!! :-) Not even I"m brave (stupid) enough to drive the car around withou any bolts holding on the wheels!!! ha ha ha. Ed 300E On 19/08/07, Robert Bigham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub. Wow. How could anti sieze hurt? Use it. I use it on just about everything unless the manufacturer specifies a sealer or adhesive on the bolt or joint. Anti sieze is one of the great inventions of the age of old cars. Don't put it on too thick, or it will run radially and could wind up splattered on the brake dust inside the rim. And the problem then would be ? Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:25:08 -0400 Subject: [MBZ] Stuck wheel! "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Took one of the wheels on the front of the W124 the other day. The guy in shop had it on SO tight, I had to use a pipe on the wrench to get the bolts off!!! Once the bolts were off, the wheel was stuck to the hub. AH! After finally getting it off, but driving it, using the brakes hard and allowing it to heat sink a little, oh yeah, plus some pounding on the tires with a hammer against a piece of wood, it came off. There was some light rust on the hub. I cleaned it off with steelwoo, and also the big of rust that was on the aluminum rim. No, the rim didn't rust, hee hee, but the rim was on so tight, the rust from the hub was imbedded in the rim!! So, the question, I know we recently had a chat about anti-stick paste on lug bolts, but what are the thoughts about some on the back of the rim, where it meets the hub, or more accuratly, I guess it's the face of the rotor? I do this with other cars with steel rims, but haven't do some in the past with aluminum rims. Any thoughts? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
250 ft lb is way too much torque on spherical collar screws holding on steel or alloy road wheels. My Daimler Benz Passenger Car Technical Data book says tighten them to 110 NM, equal roughly to 81 ft lb if I didn't botch the conversion. No wonder they are hard to get off when torqued to 250 ft lb. The wonder is that they survive being so overtightened without damage to screw, wheel, or hub. "Engineered like no other car" - Original Message - From: E M To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 8/19/2007 5:08:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels Oh, the wheel didn't have a problem sitting flush with the hub, but when you torque the bolts to about 250 or more f/lbs, it's amazing how two things can kind of stick themselves together! :-) ( Note to me: never never leave the car unattended at the garage!! I should know this by now!) All fixed now and it allowed me to give the inside of the wheel a good detailing too. Just have to do the other three now. Ed 300E On 19/08/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yu have another problem - the wheel should sit flush with the hub with no interference. With the last one of these I had, the lip on the inside of the wheel was damaged. Adding anti-seize is just working around the issue. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Bigham Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 4:12 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub. Wow. How could anti sieze hurt? Use it. I use it on just about everything unless the manufacturer specifies a sealer or adhesive on the bolt or joint. Anti sieze is one of the great inventions of the age of old cars. Don't put it on too thick, or it will run radially and could wind up splattered on the brake dust inside the rim. And the problem then would be ? Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:25:08 -0400 Subject: [MBZ] Stuck wheel! "E M" < [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Took one of the wheels on the front of the W124 the other day. The guy in shop had it on SO tight, I had to use a pipe on the wrench to get the bolts off!!! Once the bolts were off, the wheel was stuck to the hub. AH! After finally getting it off, but driving it, using the brakes hard and allowing it to heat sink a little, oh yeah, plus some pounding on the tires with a hammer against a piece of wood, it came off. There was some light rust on the hub. I cleaned it off with steelwoo, and also the big of rust that was on the aluminum rim. No, the rim didn't rust, hee hee, but the rim was on so tight, the rust from the hub was imbedded in the rim!! So, the question, I know we recently had a chat about anti-stick paste on lug bolts, but what are the thoughts about some on the back of the rim, where it meets the hub, or more accuratly, I guess it's the face of the rotor? I do this with other cars with steel rims, but haven't do some in the past with aluminum rims. Any thoughts? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
Maybe too, we mercedes owners are a little more fussy with maintance and have the wheels off more often, so it's not such a problem. I nearly pulled the car off the axle stands before reaching for the hammer! :-) Ed 300E On 19/08/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Robert Bigham wrote: > > > > I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with > > loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub. Wow. > > Usually caused by corrosion bonding between the wheel center hole > and the hub. Give both a few strokes with a wire brush. I've had > to loosen lugs and drive back and forth until the wheels pop loose > before, almost always with aluminum wheels that hadn't been dislodged > in a couple of years. Haven't yet met a MBZ wheel that I couldn't > yank off by hand, but I'm sure it's possible. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
Oh, the wheel didn't have a problem sitting flush with the hub, but when you torque the bolts to about 250 or more f/lbs, it's amazing how two things can kind of stick themselves together! :-) ( Note to me: never never leave the car unattended at the garage!! I should know this by now!) All fixed now and it allowed me to give the inside of the wheel a good detailing too. Just have to do the other three now. Ed 300E On 19/08/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yu have another problem - the wheel should sit flush with the hub with no > interference. With the last one of these I had, the lip on the inside of > the > wheel was damaged. > > Adding anti-seize is just working around the issue. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Robert Bigham > Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 4:12 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels > > I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with > loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub. Wow. > > How could anti sieze hurt? Use it. I use it on just about > everything unless the manufacturer specifies a sealer or > adhesive on the bolt or joint. Anti sieze is one of the great > inventions of the age of old cars. > > Don't put it on too thick, or it will run radially and could wind > up splattered on the brake dust inside the rim. And the problem > then would be ? > > > Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:25:08 -0400 > Subject: [MBZ] Stuck wheel! > > "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote > > Took one of the wheels on the front of the W124 the other day. The guy in > shop had it on SO tight, I had to use a pipe on the wrench to get the > bolts > off!!! Once the bolts were off, the wheel was stuck to the hub. AH! After > finally getting it off, but driving it, using the brakes hard and allowing > it to heat sink a little, oh yeah, plus some pounding on the tires with a > hammer against a piece of wood, it came off. There was some light rust on > the hub. I cleaned it off with steelwoo, and also the big of rust that was > on the aluminum rim. No, the rim didn't rust, hee hee, but the rim was on > so tight, the rust from the hub was imbedded in the rim!! > > So, the question, I know we recently had a chat about anti-stick paste on > lug bolts, but what are the thoughts about some on the back of the rim, > where it meets the hub, or more accuratly, I guess it's the face of the > rotor? I do this with other cars with steel rims, but haven't do some in > the past with aluminum rims. Any thoughts? > > Thanks, > Ed > 300E > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
Hee hee, I should have proof read that Robert. I drove the car, and "then" allowed it to heat sink before before trying the bolts again!!! :-) Not even I"m brave (stupid) enough to drive the car around withou any bolts holding on the wheels!!! ha ha ha. Ed 300E On 19/08/07, Robert Bigham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with > loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub. Wow. > > How could anti sieze hurt? Use it. I use it on just about > everything unless the manufacturer specifies a sealer or > adhesive on the bolt or joint. Anti sieze is one of the great > inventions of the age of old cars. > > Don't put it on too thick, or it will run radially and could wind > up splattered on the brake dust inside the rim. And the problem > then would be ? > > > Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:25:08 -0400 > Subject: [MBZ] Stuck wheel! > > "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote > > Took one of the wheels on the front of the W124 the other day. The guy in > shop had it on SO tight, I had to use a pipe on the wrench to get the > bolts > off!!! Once the bolts were off, the wheel was stuck to the hub. AH! After > finally getting it off, but driving it, using the brakes hard and allowing > it to heat sink a little, oh yeah, plus some pounding on the tires with a > hammer against a piece of wood, it came off. There was some light rust on > the hub. I cleaned it off with steelwoo, and also the big of rust that was > on the aluminum rim. No, the rim didn't rust, hee hee, but the rim was on > so tight, the rust from the hub was imbedded in the rim!! > > So, the question, I know we recently had a chat about anti-stick paste on > lug bolts, but what are the thoughts about some on the back of the rim, > where it meets the hub, or more accuratly, I guess it's the face of the > rotor? I do this with other cars with steel rims, but haven't do some in > the past with aluminum rims. Any thoughts? > > Thanks, > Ed > 300E > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
Robert Bigham wrote: > > I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with > loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub. Wow. Usually caused by corrosion bonding between the wheel center hole and the hub. Give both a few strokes with a wire brush. I've had to loosen lugs and drive back and forth until the wheels pop loose before, almost always with aluminum wheels that hadn't been dislodged in a couple of years. Haven't yet met a MBZ wheel that I couldn't yank off by hand, but I'm sure it's possible. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
Yu have another problem - the wheel should sit flush with the hub with no interference. With the last one of these I had, the lip on the inside of the wheel was damaged. Adding anti-seize is just working around the issue. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Bigham Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 4:12 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub. Wow. How could anti sieze hurt? Use it. I use it on just about everything unless the manufacturer specifies a sealer or adhesive on the bolt or joint. Anti sieze is one of the great inventions of the age of old cars. Don't put it on too thick, or it will run radially and could wind up splattered on the brake dust inside the rim. And the problem then would be ? Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:25:08 -0400 Subject: [MBZ] Stuck wheel! "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Took one of the wheels on the front of the W124 the other day. The guy in shop had it on SO tight, I had to use a pipe on the wrench to get the bolts off!!! Once the bolts were off, the wheel was stuck to the hub. AH! After finally getting it off, but driving it, using the brakes hard and allowing it to heat sink a little, oh yeah, plus some pounding on the tires with a hammer against a piece of wood, it came off. There was some light rust on the hub. I cleaned it off with steelwoo, and also the big of rust that was on the aluminum rim. No, the rim didn't rust, hee hee, but the rim was on so tight, the rust from the hub was imbedded in the rim!! So, the question, I know we recently had a chat about anti-stick paste on lug bolts, but what are the thoughts about some on the back of the rim, where it meets the hub, or more accuratly, I guess it's the face of the rotor? I do this with other cars with steel rims, but haven't do some in the past with aluminum rims. Any thoughts? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub. Wow. How could anti sieze hurt? Use it. I use it on just about everything unless the manufacturer specifies a sealer or adhesive on the bolt or joint. Anti sieze is one of the great inventions of the age of old cars. Don't put it on too thick, or it will run radially and could wind up splattered on the brake dust inside the rim. And the problem then would be ? Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:25:08 -0400 Subject: [MBZ] Stuck wheel! "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Took one of the wheels on the front of the W124 the other day. The guy in shop had it on SO tight, I had to use a pipe on the wrench to get the bolts off!!! Once the bolts were off, the wheel was stuck to the hub. AH! After finally getting it off, but driving it, using the brakes hard and allowing it to heat sink a little, oh yeah, plus some pounding on the tires with a hammer against a piece of wood, it came off. There was some light rust on the hub. I cleaned it off with steelwoo, and also the big of rust that was on the aluminum rim. No, the rim didn't rust, hee hee, but the rim was on so tight, the rust from the hub was imbedded in the rim!! So, the question, I know we recently had a chat about anti-stick paste on lug bolts, but what are the thoughts about some on the back of the rim, where it meets the hub, or more accuratly, I guess it's the face of the rotor? I do this with other cars with steel rims, but haven't do some in the past with aluminum rims. Any thoughts? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
