Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
Motorized parachutes look like fun. The used ones seem a little pricey. http://parachutepilot.com/equipment_for_sale.htm If your engine quits, how hard do you hit the ground? The local restrictions here are probably necessary because of constant dry conditions and the subdivision being heavily forested with houses built among the trees. The underbrush is like tinder. Gerry On 3/25/2014 10:10 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: http://pt709.synology.me/DSCF0543.JPG http://pt709.synology.me/DSCF0545.JPG You can fly anything in our unrestricted rural area. Links to photos of motorized parachute above. The transport trailer is in the foreground of the first photo. The runway is just a closely-mowed strip in my neighbor's field across the road. Scott -Original Message- From: arche...@embarqmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 3:33 PM ... The large deed restricted community where I live provides a field and a club for model flying, but they won't allow anything but battery operated models. ... Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
I am up for that! Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 On Mar 25, 2014, at 9:11 PM, Mitchell Haley, EA m...@voyager.net wrote: When I was flying radio control airplanes I built a Dallaire Sportser. Craig and Shirley need to meet Esh when they drive back up to Jerry Ford's airstrip. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 21:11:34 -0400 (EDT) Mitchell Haley, EA m...@voyager.net wrote: When I was flying radio control airplanes I built a Dallaire Sportser. Craig and Shirley need to meet Esh when they drive back up to Jerry Ford's airstrip. When you wrote this message, we were almost all the way back to Albuquerque. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
I can't say for sure but the forward speed under power is only about 35 mph. If there is a flat spot ahead you can glide it in for a rolling landing on the wheels. The airframe is pretty light so a vertical landing should be like sport parachuting with the airframe absorbing much of the impact. -Original Message- From: arche...@embarqmail.com Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:45 AM ... If your engine quits, how hard do you hit the ground? ... Gerry On 3/25/2014 10:10 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: http://pt709.synology.me/DSCF0543.JPG http://pt709.synology.me/DSCF0545.JPG You can fly anything in our unrestricted rural area. Links to photos of motorized parachute above. The transport trailer is in the foreground of the first photo. The runway is just a closely-mowed strip in my neighbor's field across the road. Scott -Original Message- From: arche...@embarqmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 3:33 PM ... The large deed restricted community where I live provides a field and a club for model flying, but they won't allow anything but battery operated models. ... Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
Was it used in the little 2 cycle Cox airplane engines? I remember that stuff stunk big time. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2014, at 10:33 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: ROFL!!! Hadn't heard that before. Seem to remember that castor oil and whale oil was used. As late as the (60s?) whale (sperm) oil was used in high performance engines of that era. Castor oil was used in race car engines of the '40s and '50s. I think the popular Offenhauser engines might have required it. You could smell it for blocks when the cars were racing at the Tampa Fairground. On 3/23/2014 8:36 AM, Jon Agne wrote: Okra…didn’t they grind that stuff up in WWI and use it to lube airplane engines? On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:27 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Slimeless okra? No problem. Find a well respected Southern cook or go to a real Southern restaurant. You'll be asking for more. Barkless dog? How about a basenji? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basenji On 3/22/2014 9:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Cherry without a stone? Easy. They are the most desirable of cherries but you can have only one at a time. [:o) Gerry Slimeless okra? That's like a barkless dog, a cherry w/o a stone,.. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Our okra is not very slippery - start it in a frying pan with a bit of EVOO and the lid on. After is starts to get soft, take the lid off and let it dry out some. Nicely cooked okra, no slime. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I have been eating okra lately. Not quite oil, but... okra is quite like oil. It occurred to me that okra might substitute for decent personal lubricant? since it is sooo slippery. Okra lube does not work for heat situations, but it certainly is slippery and green for most other needs of slippery, I suggest. Yes, things come out the other end slippery also. mao -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
ROFL!!! Hadn't heard that before. Seem to remember that castor oil and whale oil was used. As late as the (60s?) whale (sperm) oil was used in high performance engines of that era. Castor oil was used in race car engines of the '40s and '50s. I think the popular Offenhauser engines might have required it. You could smell it for blocks when the cars were racing at the Tampa Fairground. On 3/23/2014 8:36 AM, Jon Agne wrote: Okra…didn’t they grind that stuff up in WWI and use it to lube airplane engines? On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:27 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Slimeless okra? No problem. Find a well respected Southern cook or go to a real Southern restaurant. You'll be asking for more. Barkless dog? How about a basenji? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basenji On 3/22/2014 9:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Cherry without a stone? Easy. They are the most desirable of cherries but you can have only one at a time. [:o) Gerry Slimeless okra? That's like a barkless dog, a cherry w/o a stone,.. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Our okra is not very slippery - start it in a frying pan with a bit of EVOO and the lid on. After is starts to get soft, take the lid off and let it dry out some. Nicely cooked okra, no slime. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I have been eating okra lately. Not quite oil, but... okra is quite like oil. It occurred to me that okra might substitute for decent personal lubricant? since it is sooo slippery. Okra lube does not work for heat situations, but it certainly is slippery and green for most other needs of slippery, I suggest. Yes, things come out the other end slippery also. mao -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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When there were a lot of complaints about a member, the list owner was very astute. He would say that he never liked to ban anyone and then he would vote no as one of the moderators when the vote was taken. To this day, he's never been blamed for suspending a member even though he provided the means to do so. I think one moderator of that group; a lady named Marie Laveau in Louisiana, problem did sacrifice a chicken and read its entrails before she voted. There are lots of Californians on that list so some them probably wear cloaks and pointed hats and sacrifice jack rabbits; just like those New Englanders wear cloak and pointed hats and sacrifice witches. Don't know what y'all do in Ozzieland. BTW, I used to enjoy your arguments with Roger (r.i.p.). Both of you were very creative. Gerry On 3/23/2014 1:43 AM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Ooooh will they get to wear a fancy cloak type things and do funky stuff like sacrifice chickens? http://www.haunted-yorkshire.co.uk/secret%20societies.jpg Hendrik who may well be the first order of business for the secret order On 23/03/14 15:38, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: In order for the list owner to avoid hostility from the people he bans, the list owner privately selects up to fifteen members as moderators whose only function will be to secretly vote on 30 day suspensions. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
Son had a couple of those glow plug engines, but I don't think castor oil was used or I would have remembered. That was a very pungent smell. Gerry On 3/25/2014 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Was it used in the little 2 cycle Cox airplane engines? I remember that stuff stunk big time. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2014, at 10:33 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: ROFL!!! Hadn't heard that before. Seem to remember that castor oil and whale oil was used. As late as the (60s?) whale (sperm) oil was used in high performance engines of that era. Castor oil was used in race car engines of the '40s and '50s. I think the popular Offenhauser engines might have required it. You could smell it for blocks when the cars were racing at the Tampa Fairground. On 3/23/2014 8:36 AM, Jon Agne wrote: Okra…didn’t they grind that stuff up in WWI and use it to lube airplane engines? On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:27 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Slimeless okra? No problem. Find a well respected Southern cook or go to a real Southern restaurant. You'll be asking for more. Barkless dog? How about a basenji? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basenji On 3/22/2014 9:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Cherry without a stone? Easy. They are the most desirable of cherries but you can have only one at a time. [:o) Gerry Slimeless okra? That's like a barkless dog, a cherry w/o a stone,.. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Our okra is not very slippery - start it in a frying pan with a bit of EVOO and the lid on. After is starts to get soft, take the lid off and let it dry out some. Nicely cooked okra, no slime. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I have been eating okra lately. Not quite oil, but... okra is quite like oil. It occurred to me that okra might substitute for decent personal lubricant? since it is sooo slippery. Okra lube does not work for heat situations, but it certainly is slippery and green for most other needs of slippery, I suggest. Yes, things come out the other end slippery also. mao -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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When I was flying radio control airplanes I built a Dallaire Sportser. The wingspan was 9 feet and it flew like a big old kite. I put a size .40 diesel engine in it and used a 16 inch prop. I would take off into the wind and it would be off the ground in about 10 feet. Then you could throttle back and just float around and watch everyone else fly their fast machines. For fuel we used a mixture of JetA (purchased at the local airport) and castor oil. It was a pretty messy fuel and the plane would need to be cleaned up after a day of flying. I am not sure of the mix and it seemed like we used ether as well. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Mar 25, 2014, at 11:39 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Son had a couple of those glow plug engines, but I don't think castor oil was used or I would have remembered. That was a very pungent smell. Gerry On 3/25/2014 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Was it used in the little 2 cycle Cox airplane engines? I remember that stuff stunk big time. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2014, at 10:33 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: ROFL!!! Hadn't heard that before. Seem to remember that castor oil and whale oil was used. As late as the (60s?) whale (sperm) oil was used in high performance engines of that era. Castor oil was used in race car engines of the '40s and '50s. I think the popular Offenhauser engines might have required it. You could smell it for blocks when the cars were racing at the Tampa Fairground. On 3/23/2014 8:36 AM, Jon Agne wrote: Okra…didn’t they grind that stuff up in WWI and use it to lube airplane engines? On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:27 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Slimeless okra? No problem. Find a well respected Southern cook or go to a real Southern restaurant. You'll be asking for more. Barkless dog? How about a basenji? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basenji On 3/22/2014 9:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Cherry without a stone? Easy. They are the most desirable of cherries but you can have only one at a time. [:o) Gerry Slimeless okra? That's like a barkless dog, a cherry w/o a stone,.. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Our okra is not very slippery - start it in a frying pan with a bit of EVOO and the lid on. After is starts to get soft, take the lid off and let it dry out some. Nicely cooked okra, no slime. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I have been eating okra lately. Not quite oil, but... okra is quite like oil. It occurred to me that okra might substitute for decent personal lubricant? since it is sooo slippery. Okra lube does not work for heat situations, but it certainly is slippery and green for most other needs of slippery, I suggest. Yes, things come out the other end slippery also. mao -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
Glow fuel is a mixture if methanol and nitromethane (up to 30%). For two-cycle engines it also includes oil. From Wikipedia: Most model engines require oil to be included with the fuel as a lubricant since the engine has no independent oiling capability. Model engine fuel is typically 8-22% oil, with the higher percentages run in older design two-stroke glow engines that use bushings for the crankshaft bearings. The most commonly used lubricants are castor oil and synthetic oils, and many glow fuels include a mixture of the two. The oils included in glow fuel generally are not burned by the engine, and are expelled out the exhaust of the engine. This also helps the engine dissipate heat, as the oil emitted is generally hot. So for us oldsters (pre synthetics) the distinct aroma was caster oil. Scott ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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yes, the little cox engine for the plane on a string. how easily pleased we were back in the day! On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Was it used in the little 2 cycle Cox airplane engines? I remember that stuff stunk big time. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2014, at 10:33 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: ROFL!!! Hadn't heard that before. Seem to remember that castor oil and whale oil was used. As late as the (60s?) whale (sperm) oil was used in high performance engines of that era. Castor oil was used in race car engines of the '40s and '50s. I think the popular Offenhauser engines might have required it. You could smell it for blocks when the cars were racing at the Tampa Fairground. On 3/23/2014 8:36 AM, Jon Agne wrote: Okra...didn't they grind that stuff up in WWI and use it to lube airplane engines? On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:27 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Slimeless okra? No problem. Find a well respected Southern cook or go to a real Southern restaurant. You'll be asking for more. Barkless dog? How about a basenji? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basenji On 3/22/2014 9:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Cherry without a stone? Easy. They are the most desirable of cherries but you can have only one at a time. [:o) Gerry Slimeless okra? That's like a barkless dog, a cherry w/o a stone,.. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Our okra is not very slippery - start it in a frying pan with a bit of EVOO and the lid on. After is starts to get soft, take the lid off and let it dry out some. Nicely cooked okra, no slime. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I have been eating okra lately. Not quite oil, but... okra is quite like oil. It occurred to me that okra might substitute for decent personal lubricant? since it is sooo slippery. Okra lube does not work for heat situations, but it certainly is slippery and green for most other needs of slippery, I suggest. Yes, things come out the other end slippery also. mao -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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That sounds like the kind of model flying I would prefer to do, Mike. Never cared for flying the smaller models. The large deed restricted community where I live provides a field and a club for model flying, but they won't allow anything but battery operated models. Friend in Tallahassee who flew all his life; singles, twins, gliders, seaplanes, etc. got into electric model flying after he got too old to pass the physical. He had electric planes with cameras sending video back. Gerry On 3/25/2014 1:43 PM, Mike Esh wrote: When I was flying radio control airplanes I built a Dallaire Sportser. The wingspan was 9 feet and it flew like a big old kite. I put a size .40 diesel engine in it and used a 16 inch prop. I would take off into the wind and it would be off the ground in about 10 feet. Then you could throttle back and just float around and watch everyone else fly their fast machines. For fuel we used a mixture of JetA (purchased at the local airport) and castor oil. It was a pretty messy fuel and the plane would need to be cleaned up after a day of flying. I am not sure of the mix and it seemed like we used ether as well. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Mar 25, 2014, at 11:39 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Son had a couple of those glow plug engines, but I don't think castor oil was used or I would have remembered. That was a very pungent smell. Gerry On 3/25/2014 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Was it used in the little 2 cycle Cox airplane engines? I remember that stuff stunk big time. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2014, at 10:33 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: ROFL!!! Hadn't heard that before. Seem to remember that castor oil and whale oil was used. As late as the (60s?) whale (sperm) oil was used in high performance engines of that era. Castor oil was used in race car engines of the '40s and '50s. I think the popular Offenhauser engines might have required it. You could smell it for blocks when the cars were racing at the Tampa Fairground. On 3/23/2014 8:36 AM, Jon Agne wrote: Okra…didn’t they grind that stuff up in WWI and use it to lube airplane engines? On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:27 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Slimeless okra? No problem. Find a well respected Southern cook or go to a real Southern restaurant. You'll be asking for more. Barkless dog? How about a basenji? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basenji On 3/22/2014 9:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Cherry without a stone? Easy. They are the most desirable of cherries but you can have only one at a time. [:o) Gerry Slimeless okra? That's like a barkless dog, a cherry w/o a stone,.. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Our okra is not very slippery - start it in a frying pan with a bit of EVOO and the lid on. After is starts to get soft, take the lid off and let it dry out some. Nicely cooked okra, no slime. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I have been eating okra lately. Not quite oil, but... okra is quite like oil. It occurred to me that okra might substitute for decent personal lubricant? since it is sooo slippery. Okra lube does not work for heat situations, but it certainly is slippery and green for most other needs of slippery, I suggest. Yes, things come out the other end slippery also.
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From childhood in the '30s I seem to remember two kinds of castor oil; plain and odorless. The plain was a yellowish color and the odorless was colorless and cost more. Most of the kids I knew got a periodic dose which amazingly seemed to correspond with various kinds of bad behavior. My kids might have been using the odorless in their Cox engines. Gerry On 3/25/2014 2:14 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: Glow fuel is a mixture if methanol and nitromethane (up to 30%). For two-cycle engines it also includes oil. From Wikipedia: Most model engines require oil to be included with the fuel as a lubricant since the engine has no independent oiling capability. Model engine fuel is typically 8-22% oil, with the higher percentages run in older design two-stroke glow engines that use bushings for the crankshaft bearings. The most commonly used lubricants are castor oil and synthetic oils, and many glow fuels include a mixture of the two. The oils included in glow fuel generally are not burned by the engine, and are expelled out the exhaust of the engine. This also helps the engine dissipate heat, as the oil emitted is generally hot. So for us oldsters (pre synthetics) the distinct aroma was caster oil. Scott ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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When I was flying radio control airplanes I built a Dallaire Sportser. Craig and Shirley need to meet Esh when they drive back up to Jerry Ford's airstrip. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
http://pt709.synology.me/DSCF0543.JPG http://pt709.synology.me/DSCF0545.JPG You can fly anything in our unrestricted rural area. Links to photos of motorized parachute above. The transport trailer is in the foreground of the first photo. The runway is just a closely-mowed strip in my neighbor's field across the road. Scott -Original Message- From: arche...@embarqmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 3:33 PM ... The large deed restricted community where I live provides a field and a club for model flying, but they won't allow anything but battery operated models. ... Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Yes. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Was it used in the little 2 cycle Cox airplane engines? I remember that stuff stunk big time. Dan -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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i'm optimistic. let's see how it goes On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Dan is clearly much smarter than me and I am glad you approve. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2014, at 9:12 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i endorse dan penoff as moderator. i am confident that he will call the game honestly and censure ALL who violate the agreed upon terms. it is such a simple and obvious solution that i feel i was remiss in never having told dan tell kaleb you'd like to be moderater it just never came to my mind clearly enough On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I hate to point out the obvious, but if you don't like it you can always unsubscribe. I'm not trying to be a smart aleck, but if this list is no better than the others you describe, why are you still on them? Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:23 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Gary wrote: so what is left to do? be boring be polite be kind be boring be boring be boring mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Where you can not work too! --R On 3/23/14 9:58 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I don't work in education any more. It's up to others to sort that out now. I have moved on to county government. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
Slimeless okra? No problem. Find a well respected Southern cook or go to a real Southern restaurant. You'll be asking for more. Barkless dog? How about a basenji? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basenji On 3/22/2014 9:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Cherry without a stone? Easy. They are the most desirable of cherries but you can have only one at a time. [:o) Gerry Slimeless okra? That's like a barkless dog, a cherry w/o a stone,.. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Our okra is not very slippery - start it in a frying pan with a bit of EVOO and the lid on. After is starts to get soft, take the lid off and let it dry out some. Nicely cooked okra, no slime. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I have been eating okra lately. Not quite oil, but... okra is quite like oil. It occurred to me that okra might substitute for decent personal lubricant? since it is sooo slippery. Okra lube does not work for heat situations, but it certainly is slippery and green for most other needs of slippery, I suggest. Yes, things come out the other end slippery also. mao -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
Okra…didn’t they grind that stuff up in WWI and use it to lube airplane engines? On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:27 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Slimeless okra? No problem. Find a well respected Southern cook or go to a real Southern restaurant. You'll be asking for more. Barkless dog? How about a basenji? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basenji On 3/22/2014 9:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Cherry without a stone? Easy. They are the most desirable of cherries but you can have only one at a time. [:o) Gerry Slimeless okra? That's like a barkless dog, a cherry w/o a stone,.. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Our okra is not very slippery - start it in a frying pan with a bit of EVOO and the lid on. After is starts to get soft, take the lid off and let it dry out some. Nicely cooked okra, no slime. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I have been eating okra lately. Not quite oil, but... okra is quite like oil. It occurred to me that okra might substitute for decent personal lubricant? since it is sooo slippery. Okra lube does not work for heat situations, but it certainly is slippery and green for most other needs of slippery, I suggest. Yes, things come out the other end slippery also. mao -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
yes, well, that would solve it. but this whole list is personal attacks and then the stupid mob piling on, so kaleb won't do it as he fears the attackers won't like him anymore On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:08 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: This is a common problem on many other lists. The most successful solution I've seen is to have only one rule: NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. If a member persists with personal attacks he/she will be suspended for 30 days. In order for the list owner to avoid hostility from the people he bans, the list owner privately selects up to fifteen members as moderators whose only function will be to secretly vote on 30 day suspensions. The votes will be sent to someone on the list whom everyone trusts; usually the list owner ; and the list owner will then take the member off the list if a majority of moderators have agreed. Any time after 30 days the member can rejoin. Members can attack other members position on whatever is being discussed, but not other members personally. In the 8 years I've been on one list, only two members out of 150 were given 30 day suspensions and both returned as valuable list members. The fact that the rule is there and will be enforced has a very calming effect on members who tend to be too outspoken. Some hosting services have a way to conduct a survey of X number of moderators so that no moderators votes will be revealed. I don't know if Kalebs has one or not. Gerry On 3/22/2014 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
Quitnyerfuckinwhinin. A German word some folks need to learn. Mike On Mar 23, 2014 8:46 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: yes, well, that would solve it. but this whole list is personal attacks and then the stupid mob piling on, so kaleb won't do it as he fears the attackers won't like him anymore On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:08 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: This is a common problem on many other lists. The most successful solution I've seen is to have only one rule: NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. If a member persists with personal attacks he/she will be suspended for 30 days. In order for the list owner to avoid hostility from the people he bans, the list owner privately selects up to fifteen members as moderators whose only function will be to secretly vote on 30 day suspensions. The votes will be sent to someone on the list whom everyone trusts; usually the list owner ; and the list owner will then take the member off the list if a majority of moderators have agreed. Any time after 30 days the member can rejoin. Members can attack other members position on whatever is being discussed, but not other members personally. In the 8 years I've been on one list, only two members out of 150 were given 30 day suspensions and both returned as valuable list members. The fact that the rule is there and will be enforced has a very calming effect on members who tend to be too outspoken. Some hosting services have a way to conduct a survey of X number of moderators so that no moderators votes will be revealed. I don't know if Kalebs has one or not. Gerry On 3/22/2014 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
geez, another personal attack. what a surprise! On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: Quitnyerfuckinwhinin. A German word some folks need to learn. Mike On Mar 23, 2014 8:46 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: yes, well, that would solve it. but this whole list is personal attacks and then the stupid mob piling on, so kaleb won't do it as he fears the attackers won't like him anymore On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:08 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: This is a common problem on many other lists. The most successful solution I've seen is to have only one rule: NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. If a member persists with personal attacks he/she will be suspended for 30 days. In order for the list owner to avoid hostility from the people he bans, the list owner privately selects up to fifteen members as moderators whose only function will be to secretly vote on 30 day suspensions. The votes will be sent to someone on the list whom everyone trusts; usually the list owner ; and the list owner will then take the member off the list if a majority of moderators have agreed. Any time after 30 days the member can rejoin. Members can attack other members position on whatever is being discussed, but not other members personally. In the 8 years I've been on one list, only two members out of 150 were given 30 day suspensions and both returned as valuable list members. The fact that the rule is there and will be enforced has a very calming effect on members who tend to be too outspoken. Some hosting services have a way to conduct a survey of X number of moderators so that no moderators votes will be revealed. I don't know if Kalebs has one or not. Gerry On 3/22/2014 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
Geez Gary. I guess I need banned then. Here's a personal attack...Hey Gary, you need to quityerfuckinwhinin. Ban away. I prefer to listen to teenage girls on Facebook. Mike On Mar 23, 2014 9:31 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: geez, another personal attack. what a surprise! On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Quitnyerfuckinwhinin. A German word some folks need to learn. Mike On Mar 23, 2014 8:46 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: yes, well, that would solve it. but this whole list is personal attacks and then the stupid mob piling on, so kaleb won't do it as he fears the attackers won't like him anymore On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:08 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: This is a common problem on many other lists. The most successful solution I've seen is to have only one rule: NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. If a member persists with personal attacks he/she will be suspended for 30 days. In order for the list owner to avoid hostility from the people he bans, the list owner privately selects up to fifteen members as moderators whose only function will be to secretly vote on 30 day suspensions. The votes will be sent to someone on the list whom everyone trusts; usually the list owner ; and the list owner will then take the member off the list if a majority of moderators have agreed. Any time after 30 days the member can rejoin. Members can attack other members position on whatever is being discussed, but not other members personally. In the 8 years I've been on one list, only two members out of 150 were given 30 day suspensions and both returned as valuable list members. The fact that the rule is there and will be enforced has a very calming effect on members who tend to be too outspoken. Some hosting services have a way to conduct a survey of X number of moderators so that no moderators votes will be revealed. I don't know if Kalebs has one or not. Gerry On 3/22/2014 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
there is a vocal minority on this list who live to be bullies. the only solution is the one gerry suggests, that of zero tolerance towards personal attacks. but the moderator is asleep at the wheel and the majority has no will to to insist the solution be implemented. so what is left to do? On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: Geez Gary. I guess I need banned then. Here's a personal attack...Hey Gary, you need to quityerfuckinwhinin. Ban away. I prefer to listen to teenage girls on Facebook. Mike On Mar 23, 2014 9:31 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: geez, another personal attack. what a surprise! On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Quitnyerfuckinwhinin. A German word some folks need to learn. Mike On Mar 23, 2014 8:46 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: yes, well, that would solve it. but this whole list is personal attacks and then the stupid mob piling on, so kaleb won't do it as he fears the attackers won't like him anymore On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:08 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: This is a common problem on many other lists. The most successful solution I've seen is to have only one rule: NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. If a member persists with personal attacks he/she will be suspended for 30 days. In order for the list owner to avoid hostility from the people he bans, the list owner privately selects up to fifteen members as moderators whose only function will be to secretly vote on 30 day suspensions. The votes will be sent to someone on the list whom everyone trusts; usually the list owner ; and the list owner will then take the member off the list if a majority of moderators have agreed. Any time after 30 days the member can rejoin. Members can attack other members position on whatever is being discussed, but not other members personally. In the 8 years I've been on one list, only two members out of 150 were given 30 day suspensions and both returned as valuable list members. The fact that the rule is there and will be enforced has a very calming effect on members who tend to be too outspoken. Some hosting services have a way to conduct a survey of X number of moderators so that no moderators votes will be revealed. I don't know if Kalebs has one or not. Gerry On 3/22/2014 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or
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Okradidn't they grind that stuff up in WWI and use it to lube airplane engines? Naaa that was castor beans ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's just like I tell my kids. It works for them, it will work for you. Quit whining and giving the bullies what they want. Simple. You don't respond because, well, you should always try to be a bigger man than your attacker. Mike On Mar 23, 2014 9:44 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: there is a vocal minority on this list who live to be bullies. the only solution is the one gerry suggests, that of zero tolerance towards personal attacks. but the moderator is asleep at the wheel and the majority has no will to to insist the solution be implemented. so what is left to do? On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Geez Gary. I guess I need banned then. Here's a personal attack...Hey Gary, you need to quityerfuckinwhinin. Ban away. I prefer to listen to teenage girls on Facebook. Mike On Mar 23, 2014 9:31 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: geez, another personal attack. what a surprise! On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Quitnyerfuckinwhinin. A German word some folks need to learn. Mike On Mar 23, 2014 8:46 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: yes, well, that would solve it. but this whole list is personal attacks and then the stupid mob piling on, so kaleb won't do it as he fears the attackers won't like him anymore On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:08 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: This is a common problem on many other lists. The most successful solution I've seen is to have only one rule: NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. If a member persists with personal attacks he/she will be suspended for 30 days. In order for the list owner to avoid hostility from the people he bans, the list owner privately selects up to fifteen members as moderators whose only function will be to secretly vote on 30 day suspensions. The votes will be sent to someone on the list whom everyone trusts; usually the list owner ; and the list owner will then take the member off the list if a majority of moderators have agreed. Any time after 30 days the member can rejoin. Members can attack other members position on whatever is being discussed, but not other members personally. In the 8 years I've been on one list, only two members out of 150 were given 30 day suspensions and both returned as valuable list members. The fact that the rule is there and will be enforced has a very calming effect on members who tend to be too outspoken. Some hosting services have a way to conduct a survey of X number of moderators so that no moderators votes will be revealed. I don't know if Kalebs has one or not. Gerry On 3/22/2014 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
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there is a vocal minority of one on this list who live to be bullies. Yep, and its name is gary hurst, AKA MN Fats. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've never been to a Trader Joe's that wasn't packed full of rude people. They seem to have good stuff but I can't stand the other shoppers. Same reason I don't go to Wal-Mart but for a whole different category of people. -Curt Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 20:14:45 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fats driving Message-ID: d8e565ea-59bf-49f2-8876-b5fef94c9...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just opened the first Trader Joe's in Tampa this weekend. They had police officers present for crowd control. Oy. Dan no two buck Chuck for me, thank you ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I hesitate to suggest this but Gary, you are the one who makes personal attacks. If we made up a list of personal attack words like, say, idiot I'd submit that 80% of the time those words are used its from you attacking one of us. I'd bet a nickel your response to this email will be about how stupid I am for attacking you (which I'm not, merely making an observation) and defending your detractors (which again I'm not). -Curt Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 09:44:15 -0400 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fats driving Message-ID: caciok3spdfaxbnenadcd6zvu5yicxabagjhrx5hsh36wn-l...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 there is a vocal minority on this list who live to be bullies. the only solution is the one gerry suggests, that of zero tolerance towards personal attacks. but the moderator is asleep at the wheel and the majority has no will to to insist the solution be implemented. so what is left to do? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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I don't go to Walmart because it destroyed the economy of the small town I lived in inWisconsin when they moved into town. Probably 15 years ago, but I'm still bitter about it. As for Trader Joe's, I just don't understand the attraction. The edgy people? (The Apple Store does that - nope.) The funky products? Not really. Prices? Hardly. If I'm missing something I would love for someone to point it out. I just don't get it. Befuddled Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 23, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I've never been to a Trader Joe's that wasn't packed full of rude people. They seem to have good stuff but I can't stand the other shoppers. Same reason I don't go to Wal-Mart but for a whole different category of people. -Curt Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 20:14:45 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fats driving Message-ID: d8e565ea-59bf-49f2-8876-b5fef94c9...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just opened the first Trader Joe's in Tampa this weekend. They had police officers present for crowd control. Oy. Dan no two buck Chuck for me, thank you ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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They have the TASTIEST wet cat food sans by-products for the price, plus cheap chips and lots of neat frozen fish and entrees. Their proprietary products are very good and cost way less than the national brands. And, you can get nearly everything there, such as laundry soap, toothpaste, great vitamins and minerals, and motor oil. Well, not motor oil, but they do have the least expensive olive oil selection from many continents. Plus good produce, cheeses, etc. What's not to like? Here in the DC area people are invariably polite everywhere so you should just move up and support our local economy. Andrew Descending from his soap box (purchased at TJs) On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I don't go to Walmart because it destroyed the economy of the small town I lived in inWisconsin when they moved into town. Probably 15 years ago, but I'm still bitter about it. As for Trader Joe's, I just don't understand the attraction. The edgy people? (The Apple Store does that - nope.) The funky products? Not really. Prices? Hardly. If I'm missing something I would love for someone to point it out. I just don't get it. Befuddled Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 23, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I've never been to a Trader Joe's that wasn't packed full of rude people. They seem to have good stuff but I can't stand the other shoppers. Same reason I don't go to Wal-Mart but for a whole different category of people. -Curt Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 20:14:45 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fats driving Message-ID: d8e565ea-59bf-49f2-8876-b5fef94c9...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just opened the first Trader Joe's in Tampa this weekend. They had police officers present for crowd control. Oy. Dan no two buck Chuck for me, thank you ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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What did they do with the... Umm... Residue? (It's kinda noxious stuff, and needs special handling; you certainly don't want anyone getting ahold of any of it...) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Mar 23, 2014, at 9:44, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: OkraŠdidn't they grind that stuff up in WWI and use it to lube airplane engines? Naaa that was castor beans ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Btw their fruity o's taste like old-school fruit loops (from 30 or so years ago), and their pound plus chocolate bars are very good quality (the smaller versions of them are nowhere near as good...) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Mar 23, 2014, at 13:25, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: They have the TASTIEST wet cat food sans by-products for the price, plus cheap chips and lots of neat frozen fish and entrees. Their proprietary products are very good and cost way less than the national brands. And, you can get nearly everything there, such as laundry soap, toothpaste, great vitamins and minerals, and motor oil. Well, not motor oil, but they do have the least expensive olive oil selection from many continents. Plus good produce, cheeses, etc. What's not to like? Here in the DC area people are invariably polite everywhere so you should just move up and support our local economy. Andrew Descending from his soap box (purchased at TJs) On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I don't go to Walmart because it destroyed the economy of the small town I lived in inWisconsin when they moved into town. Probably 15 years ago, but I'm still bitter about it. As for Trader Joe's, I just don't understand the attraction. The edgy people? (The Apple Store does that - nope.) The funky products? Not really. Prices? Hardly. If I'm missing something I would love for someone to point it out. I just don't get it. Befuddled Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 23, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I've never been to a Trader Joe's that wasn't packed full of rude people. They seem to have good stuff but I can't stand the other shoppers. Same reason I don't go to Wal-Mart but for a whole different category of people. -Curt Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 20:14:45 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fats driving Message-ID: d8e565ea-59bf-49f2-8876-b5fef94c9...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just opened the first Trader Joe's in Tampa this weekend. They had police officers present for crowd control. Oy. Dan no two buck Chuck for me, thank you ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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I'm not to the point in my life where I'm having to eat cat food. Sorry. I'm sure their stuff is good, I just don't understand why people get all frothy about the place. We have a Fresh Market opening up a few blocks away in April. Supposed to be a high end market focusing mainly on meats and produce. Publix (right across the street) is not happy. They have ratcheted up their marketing in the neighborhood. There is a meat market right next door to the place, too. We're taking bets to see how long they last once it opens. Dan On Mar 23, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: They have the TASTIEST wet cat food sans by-products for the price, plus cheap chips and lots of neat frozen fish and entrees. Their proprietary products are very good and cost way less than the national brands. And, you can get nearly everything there, such as laundry soap, toothpaste, great vitamins and minerals, and motor oil. Well, not motor oil, but they do have the least expensive olive oil selection from many continents. Plus good produce, cheeses, etc. What's not to like? Here in the DC area people are invariably polite everywhere so you should just move up and support our local economy. Andrew Descending from his soap box (purchased at TJs) On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I don't go to Walmart because it destroyed the economy of the small town I lived in inWisconsin when they moved into town. Probably 15 years ago, but I'm still bitter about it. As for Trader Joe's, I just don't understand the attraction. The edgy people? (The Apple Store does that - nope.) The funky products? Not really. Prices? Hardly. If I'm missing something I would love for someone to point it out. I just don't get it. Befuddled Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 23, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I've never been to a Trader Joe's that wasn't packed full of rude people. They seem to have good stuff but I can't stand the other shoppers. Same reason I don't go to Wal-Mart but for a whole different category of people. -Curt Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 20:14:45 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fats driving Message-ID: d8e565ea-59bf-49f2-8876-b5fef94c9...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just opened the first Trader Joe's in Tampa this weekend. They had police officers present for crowd control. Oy. Dan no two buck Chuck for me, thank you ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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I heard they dumped it into a swamp in LOOsiana. That’s where they filmed all those swamp monster movies from the ‘50s. On Mar 23, 2014, at 1:54 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: What did they do with the... Umm... Residue? (It's kinda noxious stuff, and needs special handling; you certainly don't want anyone getting ahold of any of it...) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Mar 23, 2014, at 9:44, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: OkraŠdidn't they grind that stuff up in WWI and use it to lube airplane engines? Naaa that was castor beans ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Dan, as nearly everyone in dieseldom knows, I had two black cats (now one) to whose judgment as to the tastiness of cat food I defer. Polydamas eats their wet food 2x daily and relishes every morsel. On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: I heard they dumped it into a swamp in LOOsiana. That’s where they filmed all those swamp monster movies from the ‘50s. On Mar 23, 2014, at 1:54 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: What did they do with the... Umm... Residue? (It's kinda noxious stuff, and needs special handling; you certainly don't want anyone getting ahold of any of it...) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Mar 23, 2014, at 9:44, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: OkraŠdidn't they grind that stuff up in WWI and use it to lube airplane engines? Naaa that was castor beans ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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That was caster beans for castor oil. AFAIK, it's still used in model airplane engine fuel. It was when I was a kid anyway. We ordered a gallon from the pharmacist , he commented that it would be enough to move congress. My brothers and I burned a lot of model airplane fuel then, mixed it ourselves - ethanol and castor oil. On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Okra...didn't they grind that stuff up in WWI and use it to lube airplane engines? On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:27 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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I've read several historical accounts of WW1 pilots who flew and fought in the open cockpit, castor oil lubricated airplanes of the era. Apparently constant and extreme bowl movements were part of the price you paid to be brave enough to fly the airplanes. Several accounts are written about how much weight they lost and how truly sick they became, between the poor sanitation of the day, and the constant breathing of castor oil. Brave takes a new meaning. On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:22 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: That was caster beans for castor oil. AFAIK, it's still used in model airplane engine fuel. It was when I was a kid anyway. We ordered a gallon from the pharmacist , he commented that it would be enough to move congress. My brothers and I burned a lot of model airplane fuel then, mixed it ourselves - ethanol and castor oil. On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Okra...didn't they grind that stuff up in WWI and use it to lube airplane engines? On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:27 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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fresh market has some higher end merchandise than publix. they seem to mostly cater to yuppies who don't want to cook so they buy pre-made food. not the place for me whole foods is my kind of place when it comes to higher end stores On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I'm not to the point in my life where I'm having to eat cat food. Sorry. I'm sure their stuff is good, I just don't understand why people get all frothy about the place. We have a Fresh Market opening up a few blocks away in April. Supposed to be a high end market focusing mainly on meats and produce. Publix (right across the street) is not happy. They have ratcheted up their marketing in the neighborhood. There is a meat market right next door to the place, too. We're taking bets to see how long they last once it opens. Dan On Mar 23, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: They have the TASTIEST wet cat food sans by-products for the price, plus cheap chips and lots of neat frozen fish and entrees. Their proprietary products are very good and cost way less than the national brands. And, you can get nearly everything there, such as laundry soap, toothpaste, great vitamins and minerals, and motor oil. Well, not motor oil, but they do have the least expensive olive oil selection from many continents. Plus good produce, cheeses, etc. What's not to like? Here in the DC area people are invariably polite everywhere so you should just move up and support our local economy. Andrew Descending from his soap box (purchased at TJs) On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I don't go to Walmart because it destroyed the economy of the small town I lived in inWisconsin when they moved into town. Probably 15 years ago, but I'm still bitter about it. As for Trader Joe's, I just don't understand the attraction. The edgy people? (The Apple Store does that - nope.) The funky products? Not really. Prices? Hardly. If I'm missing something I would love for someone to point it out. I just don't get it. Befuddled Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 23, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I've never been to a Trader Joe's that wasn't packed full of rude people. They seem to have good stuff but I can't stand the other shoppers. Same reason I don't go to Wal-Mart but for a whole different category of people. -Curt Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 20:14:45 -0400 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fats driving Message-ID: d8e565ea-59bf-49f2-8876-b5fef94c9...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just opened the first Trader Joe's in Tampa this weekend. They had police officers present for crowd control. Oy. Dan no two buck Chuck for me, thank you ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual
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Gary wrote: so what is left to do? be boring be polite be kind be boring be boring be boring mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Hey I thought you where supposed to be busy reworking the education system so it spews out innovative and non boring people. Get to it. Hendrik who is supposed to be doing book work On 24/03/14 10:53, Mountain Man wrote: Gary wrote: so what is left to do? be boring be polite be kind be boring be boring be boring mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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HF wrote: Hey I thought you where supposed to be busy reworking the education system... Nah. I leave that for Dan to administer in his professional position. More boring. Uniformity, not diversity or catastrophic. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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I don't work in education any more. It's up to others to sort that out now. I have moved on to county government. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: HF wrote: Hey I thought you where supposed to be busy reworking the education system... Nah. I leave that for Dan to administer in his professional position. More boring. Uniformity, not diversity or catastrophic. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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I hate to point out the obvious, but if you don't like it you can always unsubscribe. I'm not trying to be a smart aleck, but if this list is no better than the others you describe, why are you still on them? Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:23 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Gary wrote: so what is left to do? be boring be polite be kind be boring be boring be boring mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Mao is just being is usually self. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I hate to point out the obvious, but if you don't like it you can always unsubscribe. I'm not trying to be a smart aleck, but if this list is no better than the others you describe, why are you still on them? Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:23 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Gary wrote: so what is left to do? be boring be polite be kind be boring be boring be boring mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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i endorse dan penoff as moderator. i am confident that he will call the game honestly and censure ALL who violate the agreed upon terms. it is such a simple and obvious solution that i feel i was remiss in never having told dan tell kaleb you'd like to be moderater it just never came to my mind clearly enough On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I hate to point out the obvious, but if you don't like it you can always unsubscribe. I'm not trying to be a smart aleck, but if this list is no better than the others you describe, why are you still on them? Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:23 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Gary wrote: so what is left to do? be boring be polite be kind be boring be boring be boring mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Dan is clearly much smarter than me and I am glad you approve. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2014, at 9:12 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i endorse dan penoff as moderator. i am confident that he will call the game honestly and censure ALL who violate the agreed upon terms. it is such a simple and obvious solution that i feel i was remiss in never having told dan tell kaleb you'd like to be moderater it just never came to my mind clearly enough On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I hate to point out the obvious, but if you don't like it you can always unsubscribe. I'm not trying to be a smart aleck, but if this list is no better than the others you describe, why are you still on them? Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:23 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Gary wrote: so what is left to do? be boring be polite be kind be boring be boring be boring mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thank you Jaime On Mar 22, 2014 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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And right you are. I guess I was not clear enough before. Correct me if I missed somebody but it seems hendrik, Loren, and hurst all have a problem with each other. I do not want to hear any name calling, bickering, fighting, or anything at all directed at one another. What does that mean? It means hendrik and Loren should not talk to or about Gary, Gary should not talk to or about the other 2. I am sick and tired of the back and forth. Everyone is sick if it. Take it to banned and have at it if you want but keep the name calling, foul language etc of here, period. If I see it again beyond today, I will start putting people on moderation status. If that does not work they will be banned. If the problem continues you will just shut down the list. This is not just directed at the 3 people above, it is directed at everyone. If you think you want to attack somebody, accuse them of something, think twice before posting it. It should not happen, period. Gary sells parts but is not any sort of official parts supplier of this list. If you think he ripped you off, do not buy from him. You can let me know off list if you want. If I hear many complaints from many people I would not allow Gary to sell parts here, but knowing Gary that is highly unlikely he is ripping people off. So, with that said I do not want to see anymore of these attacks. People do not need to be attacking Gary, Gary does not need to be attacking people. It is only natural if you are attacked you should defend yourself. That just keeps it going. No attacks in the first place means no problems. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Amen! I second the motion! All in favor? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: March 22, 2014 2:38:54 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fats driving And right you are. I guess I was not clear enough before. Correct me if I missed somebody but it seems hendrik, Loren, and hurst all have a problem with each other. I do not want to hear any name calling, bickering, fighting, or anything at all directed at one another. What does that mean? It means hendrik and Loren should not talk to or about Gary, Gary should not talk to or about the other 2. I am sick and tired of the back and forth. Everyone is sick if it. Take it to banned and have at it if you want but keep the name calling, foul language etc of here, period. If I see it again beyond today, I will start putting people on moderation status. If that does not work they will be banned. If the problem continues you will just shut down the list. This is not just directed at the 3 people above, it is directed at everyone. If you think you want to attack somebody, accuse them of something, think twice before posting it. It should not happen, period. Gary sells parts but is not any sort of official parts supplier of this list. If you think he ripped you off, do not buy from him. You can let me know off list if you want. If I hear many complaints from many people I would not allow Gary to sell parts here, but knowing Gary that is highly unlikely he is ripping people off. So, with that said I do not want to see anymore of these attacks. People do not need to be attacking Gary, Gary does not need to be attacking people. It is only natural if you are attacked you should defend yourself. That just keeps it going. No attacks in the first place means no problems. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
Maybe we need a designated scapegoat of the month, a rotating position, so that everyone has to take a load of sh*t from the entire list at some point. The rules would require that you can vent only against this one individual. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Amen! I second the motion! All in favor? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: March 22, 2014 2:38:54 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fats driving And right you are. I guess I was not clear enough before. Correct me if I missed somebody but it seems hendrik, Loren, and hurst all have a problem with each other. I do not want to hear any name calling, bickering, fighting, or anything at all directed at one another. What does that mean? It means hendrik and Loren should not talk to or about Gary, Gary should not talk to or about the other 2. I am sick and tired of the back and forth. Everyone is sick if it. Take it to banned and have at it if you want but keep the name calling, foul language etc of here, period. If I see it again beyond today, I will start putting people on moderation status. If that does not work they will be banned. If the problem continues you will just shut down the list. This is not just directed at the 3 people above, it is directed at everyone. If you think you want to attack somebody, accuse them of something, think twice before posting it. It should not happen, period. Gary sells parts but is not any sort of official parts supplier of this list. If you think he ripped you off, do not buy from him. You can let me know off list if you want. If I hear many complaints from many people I would not allow Gary to sell parts here, but knowing Gary that is highly unlikely he is ripping people off. So, with that said I do not want to see anymore of these attacks. People do not need to be attacking Gary, Gary does not need to be attacking people. It is only natural if you are attacked you should defend yourself. That just keeps it going. No attacks in the first place means no problems. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
Let's go back to oil threads instead. On Mar 22, 2014 7:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe we need a designated scapegoat of the month, a rotating position, so that everyone has to take a load of sh*t from the entire list at some point. The rules would require that you can vent only against this one individual. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Amen! I second the motion! All in favor? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: March 22, 2014 2:38:54 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fats driving And right you are. I guess I was not clear enough before. Correct me if I missed somebody but it seems hendrik, Loren, and hurst all have a problem with each other. I do not want to hear any name calling, bickering, fighting, or anything at all directed at one another. What does that mean? It means hendrik and Loren should not talk to or about Gary, Gary should not talk to or about the other 2. I am sick and tired of the back and forth. Everyone is sick if it. Take it to banned and have at it if you want but keep the name calling, foul language etc of here, period. If I see it again beyond today, I will start putting people on moderation status. If that does not work they will be banned. If the problem continues you will just shut down the list. This is not just directed at the 3 people above, it is directed at everyone. If you think you want to attack somebody, accuse them of something, think twice before posting it. It should not happen, period. Gary sells parts but is not any sort of official parts supplier of this list. If you think he ripped you off, do not buy from him. You can let me know off list if you want. If I hear many complaints from many people I would not allow Gary to sell parts here, but knowing Gary that is highly unlikely he is ripping people off. So, with that said I do not want to see anymore of these attacks. People do not need to be attacking Gary, Gary does not need to be attacking people. It is only natural if you are attacked you should defend yourself. That just keeps it going. No attacks in the first place means no problems. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
OK - fair enough.
I bough some rice bran oil a Trader Joe's. It has a very high flash point
and is great for stir frying. Also, although it costs more than canola oil
a little goes a long way. Anyone heard of or used this before?
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.comwrote:
Let's go back to oil threads instead.
On Mar 22, 2014 7:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
wrote:
Maybe we need a designated scapegoat of the month, a rotating position,
so that everyone has to take a load of sh*t from the entire list at some
point. The rules would require that you can vent only against this one
individual.
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
Amen! I second the motion! All in favor?
--
Max Dillon
Charleston, SC
Original Message
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
Sent: March 22, 2014 2:38:54 PM EDT
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
And right you are. I guess I was not clear enough before. Correct me
if I
missed somebody but it seems hendrik, Loren, and hurst all have a
problem
with each other. I do not want to hear any name calling, bickering,
fighting, or anything at all directed at one another. What does that
mean?
It means hendrik and Loren should not talk to or about Gary, Gary
should
not talk to or about the other 2. I am sick and tired of the back and
forth. Everyone is sick if it. Take it to banned and have at it if you
want
but keep the name calling, foul language etc of here, period. If I see
it
again beyond today, I will start putting people on moderation status.
If
that does not work they will be banned. If the problem continues you
will
just shut down the list. This is not just directed at the 3 people
above,
it is directed at everyone. If you think you want to attack somebody,
accuse them of something, think twice before posting it. It should not
happen, period. Gary sells parts but is not any sort of official parts
supplier of this list. If you think he ripped you off, do not buy from
him.
You can let me know off list if you want. If I hear many complaints
from
many people I would not allow Gary to sell parts here, but knowing Gary
that is highly unlikely he is ripping people off. So, with that said I
do
not want to see anymore of these attacks. People do not need to be
attacking Gary, Gary does not need to be attacking people. It is only
natural if you are attacked you should defend yourself. That just keeps
it
going. No attacks in the first place means no problems.
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 22, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
wrote:
Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is
ridiculous.
There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like
this
seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the
list
is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even
slightly
useful.
How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days?
Jaime
On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this
list
with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap
that
fats spews. Good description Hendrik!
Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us
are
not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade.
I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying
parts
from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It
amounts to
several thousand dollars.
He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his
(former)
customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers.
If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to
vendors
who
do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just
willing
to help people find good sources for good parts.)
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
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Jaime Kopchinski
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Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
No but how does it compare with Mobil 1? I use peanut oil for stir fry because of high flash point. On Mar 22, 2014 7:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: OK - fair enough. I bough some rice bran oil a Trader Joe's. It has a very high flash point and is great for stir frying. Also, although it costs more than canola oil a little goes a long way. Anyone heard of or used this before? On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Let's go back to oil threads instead. On Mar 22, 2014 7:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe we need a designated scapegoat of the month, a rotating position, so that everyone has to take a load of sh*t from the entire list at some point. The rules would require that you can vent only against this one individual. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Amen! I second the motion! All in favor? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: March 22, 2014 2:38:54 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fats driving And right you are. I guess I was not clear enough before. Correct me if I missed somebody but it seems hendrik, Loren, and hurst all have a problem with each other. I do not want to hear any name calling, bickering, fighting, or anything at all directed at one another. What does that mean? It means hendrik and Loren should not talk to or about Gary, Gary should not talk to or about the other 2. I am sick and tired of the back and forth. Everyone is sick if it. Take it to banned and have at it if you want but keep the name calling, foul language etc of here, period. If I see it again beyond today, I will start putting people on moderation status. If that does not work they will be banned. If the problem continues you will just shut down the list. This is not just directed at the 3 people above, it is directed at everyone. If you think you want to attack somebody, accuse them of something, think twice before posting it. It should not happen, period. Gary sells parts but is not any sort of official parts supplier of this list. If you think he ripped you off, do not buy from him. You can let me know off list if you want. If I hear many complaints from many people I would not allow Gary to sell parts here, but knowing Gary that is highly unlikely he is ripping people off. So, with that said I do not want to see anymore of these attacks. People do not need to be attacking Gary, Gary does not need to be attacking people. It is only natural if you are attacked you should defend yourself. That just keeps it going. No attacks in the first place means no problems. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
Mobil 1 has some subtle flavor elements with slight overtones of mineral astringency. It's high heat tolerance provides for quick sautéing or stir frying without any greasy overtones. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Mar 22, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: No but how does it compare with Mobil 1? I use peanut oil for stir fry because of high flash point. On Mar 22, 2014 7:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: OK - fair enough. I bough some rice bran oil a Trader Joe's. It has a very high flash point and is great for stir frying. Also, although it costs more than canola oil a little goes a long way. Anyone heard of or used this before? On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Let's go back to oil threads instead. On Mar 22, 2014 7:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe we need a designated scapegoat of the month, a rotating position, so that everyone has to take a load of sh*t from the entire list at some point. The rules would require that you can vent only against this one individual. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Amen! I second the motion! All in favor? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: March 22, 2014 2:38:54 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fats driving ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
Just opened the first Trader Joe's in Tampa this weekend. They had police officers present for crowd control. Oy. Dan no two buck Chuck for me, thank you On Mar 22, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: OK - fair enough. I bough some rice bran oil a Trader Joe's. It has a very high flash point and is great for stir frying. Also, although it costs more than canola oil a little goes a long way. Anyone heard of or used this before? On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.comwrote: Let's go back to oil threads instead. On Mar 22, 2014 7:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe we need a designated scapegoat of the month, a rotating position, so that everyone has to take a load of sh*t from the entire list at some point. The rules would require that you can vent only against this one individual. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Amen! I second the motion! All in favor? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: March 22, 2014 2:38:54 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fats driving And right you are. I guess I was not clear enough before. Correct me if I missed somebody but it seems hendrik, Loren, and hurst all have a problem with each other. I do not want to hear any name calling, bickering, fighting, or anything at all directed at one another. What does that mean? It means hendrik and Loren should not talk to or about Gary, Gary should not talk to or about the other 2. I am sick and tired of the back and forth. Everyone is sick if it. Take it to banned and have at it if you want but keep the name calling, foul language etc of here, period. If I see it again beyond today, I will start putting people on moderation status. If that does not work they will be banned. If the problem continues you will just shut down the list. This is not just directed at the 3 people above, it is directed at everyone. If you think you want to attack somebody, accuse them of something, think twice before posting it. It should not happen, period. Gary sells parts but is not any sort of official parts supplier of this list. If you think he ripped you off, do not buy from him. You can let me know off list if you want. If I hear many complaints from many people I would not allow Gary to sell parts here, but knowing Gary that is highly unlikely he is ripping people off. So, with that said I do not want to see anymore of these attacks. People do not need to be attacking Gary, Gary does not need to be attacking people. It is only natural if you are attacked you should defend yourself. That just keeps it going. No attacks in the first place means no problems. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
Excellent review. Not to mentious its viciousness. On Mar 22, 2014 8:11 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Mobil 1 has some subtle flavor elements with slight overtones of mineral astringency. It's high heat tolerance provides for quick sautéing or stir frying without any greasy overtones. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Mar 22, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: No but how does it compare with Mobil 1? I use peanut oil for stir fry because of high flash point. On Mar 22, 2014 7:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: OK - fair enough. I bough some rice bran oil a Trader Joe's. It has a very high flash point and is great for stir frying. Also, although it costs more than canola oil a little goes a long way. Anyone heard of or used this before? On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Let's go back to oil threads instead. On Mar 22, 2014 7:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe we need a designated scapegoat of the month, a rotating position, so that everyone has to take a load of sh*t from the entire list at some point. The rules would require that you can vent only against this one individual. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Amen! I second the motion! All in favor? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: March 22, 2014 2:38:54 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fats driving ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Nope, but my wife has started buying grape seed oil to use when she doesn't want to use EVOO. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: OK - fair enough. I bough some rice bran oil a Trader Joe's. It has a very high flash point and is great for stir frying. Also, although it costs more than canola oil a little goes a long way. Anyone heard of or used this before? -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Gary wrote: who wears an akubra snowy river hat? I do. I have worn it for 25 years. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Jaime wrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. Better yet, Kaleb - we shall now call this list banned. Start a new okiembz list that will have nice dialog. This list (banned) can trash anyone, everyone, all the time - and then we will have banned back to what it has been. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kaleb wrote: ...I do not want to hear any name calling, bickering, fighting, or anything at all directed at one another. What does that mean? The tough Spencer daddy thing comes out. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OK Don wrote: Nope, but my wife has started buying grape seed oil to use when she doesn't want to use EVOO. I have been eating okra lately. Not quite oil, but... okra is quite like oil. It occurred to me that okra might substitute for decent personal lubricant? since it is sooo slippery. Okra lube does not work for heat situations, but it certainly is slippery and green for most other needs of slippery, I suggest. Yes, things come out the other end slippery also. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Our okra is not very slippery - start it in a frying pan with a bit of EVOO and the lid on. After is starts to get soft, take the lid off and let it dry out some. Nicely cooked okra, no slime. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I have been eating okra lately. Not quite oil, but... okra is quite like oil. It occurred to me that okra might substitute for decent personal lubricant? since it is sooo slippery. Okra lube does not work for heat situations, but it certainly is slippery and green for most other needs of slippery, I suggest. Yes, things come out the other end slippery also. mao -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Slimeless okra? That's like a barkless dog, a cherry w/o a stone,.. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Our okra is not very slippery - start it in a frying pan with a bit of EVOO and the lid on. After is starts to get soft, take the lid off and let it dry out some. Nicely cooked okra, no slime. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I have been eating okra lately. Not quite oil, but... okra is quite like oil. It occurred to me that okra might substitute for decent personal lubricant? since it is sooo slippery. Okra lube does not work for heat situations, but it certainly is slippery and green for most other needs of slippery, I suggest. Yes, things come out the other end slippery also. mao -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's all in the technique works with either fresh or frozen okra. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Slimeless okra? That's like a barkless dog, a cherry w/o a stone,.. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OK Don wrote: It's all in the technique works with either fresh or frozen okra. I soak in water overnight and drink the thick water in the morning for the health of it and then eat the pieces. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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richard says my only course is legal action against kleb. he has let this shit go on for 5 years now and has not done a single thing to stop it. if anything , he encourages daily attacks against me from these scumbags and then screams about banning me when i object i try very hard to be friends with kleb but he doesn't understand that you don't treat a friend this way. he is ignorant and i can't communicate with him On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Gary wrote: i try very hard to be friends with kleb but he doesn't understand that you don't treat a friend this way. he is ignorant and i can't communicate with him Hear Hear Now we got richarde drawn in to this fiasco. I love okiebenz fiascos - they draw out our color and leave the drab in the past. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i still try to be kleb's friend. i like him very much and i like his family. that he comes here and starts the conversation with how he has to ban me because he thinks it will impress the scumbags is more sad than anything. the scumbags will not be his friend and they might just turn on him as well as they are without moral center but merely kick whomever they think they can get away with kicking On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.comwrote: Gary wrote: i try very hard to be friends with kleb but he doesn't understand that you don't treat a friend this way. he is ignorant and i can't communicate with him Hear Hear Now we got richarde drawn in to this fiasco. I love okiebenz fiascos - they draw out our color and leave the drab in the past. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah Kaleb think of the children, next thing you know they'll all have potty mouths and getting drunk. Seriously though, we all pretty much know where we stand now and better to have it out in the open and dealt with than festering away in the background. Hendrik who is barely technical but pretends otherwise On 23/03/14 04:20, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Sure I got no problem with that, don't read most of the pearls of wisdom from Florida anyway. It's just that in our culture we can't stand someone who has a big mouth in the playground but when told to shut up runs crying home to Mum and says he got bullied. Hendrik who is gonna tell his mum that kaleb is a bully On 23/03/14 05:08, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: And right you are. I guess I was not clear enough before. Correct me if I missed somebody but it seems hendrik, Loren, and hurst all have a problem with each other. I do not want to hear any name calling, bickering, fighting, or anything at all directed at one another. What does that mean? It means hendrik and Loren should not talk to or about Gary, Gary should not talk to or about the other 2. I am sick and tired of the back and forth. Everyone is sick if it. Take it to banned and have at it if you want but keep the name calling, foul language etc of here, period. If I see it again beyond today, I will start putting people on moderation status. If that does not work they will be banned. If the problem continues you will just shut down the list. This is not just directed at the 3 people above, it is directed at everyone. If you think you want to attack somebody, accuse them of something, think twice before posting it. It should not happen, period. Gary sells parts but is not any so rt of official parts supplier of this list. If you think he ripped you off, do not buy from him. You can let me know off list if you want. If I hear many complaints from many people I would not allow Gary to sell parts here, but knowing Gary that is highly unlikely he is ripping people off. So, with that said I do not want to see anymore of these attacks. People do not need to be attacking Gary, Gary does not need to be attacking people. It is only natural if you are attacked you should defend yourself. That just keeps it going. No attacks in the first place means no problems. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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This is a common problem on many other lists. The most successful solution I've seen is to have only one rule: NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. If a member persists with personal attacks he/she will be suspended for 30 days. In order for the list owner to avoid hostility from the people he bans, the list owner privately selects up to fifteen members as moderators whose only function will be to secretly vote on 30 day suspensions. The votes will be sent to someone on the list whom everyone trusts; usually the list owner ; and the list owner will then take the member off the list if a majority of moderators have agreed. Any time after 30 days the member can rejoin. Members can attack other members position on whatever is being discussed, but not other members personally. In the 8 years I've been on one list, only two members out of 150 were given 30 day suspensions and both returned as valuable list members. The fact that the rule is there and will be enforced has a very calming effect on members who tend to be too outspoken. Some hosting services have a way to conduct a survey of X number of moderators so that no moderators votes will be revealed. I don't know if Kalebs has one or not. Gerry On 3/22/2014 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I really like pickled okra and okra sauteed in butter with onions. Fried okra is ok. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com Sent: March 22, 2014 9:02:59 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fats driving I have been eating okra lately. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ooooh will they get to wear a fancy cloak type things and do funky stuff like sacrifice chickens? http://www.haunted-yorkshire.co.uk/secret%20societies.jpg Hendrik who may well be the first order of business for the secret order On 23/03/14 15:38, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: In order for the list owner to avoid hostility from the people he bans, the list owner privately selects up to fifteen members as moderators whose only function will be to secretly vote on 30 day suspensions. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dieselhead wrote: Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. Heh. Afraid? Naw - gave up trying to make people change. I voice my opinion early on and all evidence supports the position I had then. Gary seems eager to source grief, but squawks loudly and vehemently should he ever be the object. Whatever. It hasn't really changed in a decade, so I hold no hope that any comments I make will sway anybody. So I have my client set to obscure his posts to make it easy to ignore. -- Philip, not hating, just ignoring - well, trying to ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Philip wrote: Whatever. It hasn't really changed in a decade... Not much ever changes. That is the human condition. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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how do you morons plan to stop fighting if you simply won't stop talking shit about me? and why doesn't kleb or any of the other allegedly responsible adults ever suggest you guys stop it but only insist that i never respond? kaleb? and who is going to help me pick out my crown? On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Dieselhead wrote: Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. Heh. Afraid? Naw - gave up trying to make people change. I voice my opinion early on and all evidence supports the position I had then. Gary seems eager to source grief, but squawks loudly and vehemently should he ever be the object. Whatever. It hasn't really changed in a decade, so I hold no hope that any comments I make will sway anybody. So I have my client set to obscure his posts to make it easy to ignore. -- Philip, not hating, just ignoring - well, trying to ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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who wears an akubra snowy river hat? On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Philip wrote: Whatever. It hasn't really changed in a decade... Not much ever changes. That is the human condition. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
