Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
Both are long gone... On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> It now turns - car was facing the sun all morning. Is there any way >> to PREVENT this from happening again, short of building another >> garage? > > Is the flap still over they keyhole? If so, there's also > a thin plastic drip shield that's supposed to be over the > lock assembly on the inside of the door, so that it doesn't > get rained on by the window. That doesn't last long, and > is one of the first things lost when the door is worked > on. (The other being the vapor barrier.) > > -- Jim > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
It now turns - car was facing the sun all morning. Is there any way to PREVENT this from happening again, short of building another garage? Is the flap still over they keyhole? If so, there's also a thin plastic drip shield that's supposed to be over the lock assembly on the inside of the door, so that it doesn't get rained on by the window. That doesn't last long, and is one of the first things lost when the door is worked on. (The other being the vapor barrier.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
PAH! Southerners know nothing... Take a propane torch and just touch the lock with it for a second (while its lit obviously) it'll melt the ice out easy peasy. No propane torch? Go get a wind proof butane lighter, same deal, hold it on longer. -Curt Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:54:24 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I may need to call Roadside to unfreeze the door locks in my1985 300TD. I tried copious amounts of de-icer solution but it didn'tt work. I can finally insert the key into the driver's door lock, but it won't turn. What puzzles me is that it isn't even that cold in D.C. but it rained a ton yesterday, then dipped below freezing last night. What else can I do without wrecking my brand new door handle? Andrew 300TDs - 1983 and '85 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
Isn't there some kind of lock deicer in a spray can? --R On 12/13/2010 12:36 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: It now turns - car was facing the sun all morning. Is there any way to PREVENT this from happening again, short of building another garage? On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Heat the key with a cigarette lighter. Insert into lock, allow heat to transfer, repeat until lock turns. Allan On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:54 -0500, "andrew strasfogel" wrote: I may need to call Roadside to unfreeze the door locks in my1985 300TD. I tried copious amounts of de-icer solution but it didn'tt work. I can finally insert the key into the driver's door lock, but it won't turn. What puzzles me is that it isn't even that cold in D.C. but it rained a ton yesterday, then dipped below freezing last night. What else can I do without wrecking my brand new door handle? Andrew 300TDs - 1983 and '85 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:36 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > It now turns - car was facing the sun all morning. Is there any way > to PREVENT this from happening again, short of building another > garage? > An adhesive-backed foam insulating strip over the keyhole? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
It now turns - car was facing the sun all morning. Is there any way to PREVENT this from happening again, short of building another garage? On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Allan Streib wrote: > Heat the key with a cigarette lighter. Insert into lock, allow heat to > transfer, repeat until lock turns. > > Allan > > > On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:54 -0500, "andrew strasfogel" > wrote: >> I may need to call Roadside to unfreeze the door locks in my1985 >> 300TD. I tried copious amounts of de-icer solution but it didn'tt >> work. I can finally insert the key into the driver's door lock, but >> it won't turn. What puzzles me is that it isn't even that cold in >> D.C. but it rained a ton yesterday, then dipped below freezing last >> night. >> >> What else can I do without wrecking my brand new door handle? >> >> Andrew >> 300TDs - 1983 and '85 >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
Heat the key with a cigarette lighter. Insert into lock, allow heat to transfer, repeat until lock turns. Allan On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:54 -0500, "andrew strasfogel" wrote: > I may need to call Roadside to unfreeze the door locks in my1985 > 300TD. I tried copious amounts of de-icer solution but it didn'tt > work. I can finally insert the key into the driver's door lock, but > it won't turn. What puzzles me is that it isn't even that cold in > D.C. but it rained a ton yesterday, then dipped below freezing last > night. > > What else can I do without wrecking my brand new door handle? > > Andrew > 300TDs - 1983 and '85 > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
You can heat the key then put it in and try again. After enough repetitions it will go. Even is you just put it in your pocket to warm for a minute. I have never spent more than 5 min doing that and breathing on the doorlock while the key is warming in my pocket. I may need to call Roadside to unfreeze the door locks in my1985 300TD. I tried copious amounts of de-icer solution but it didn'tt work. I can finally insert the key into the driver's door lock, but it won't turn. What puzzles me is that it isn't even that cold in D.C. but it rained a ton yesterday, then dipped below freezing last night. What else can I do without wrecking my brand new door handle? Andrew 300TDs - 1983 and '85 On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:48 AM, E M wrote: Alignments do provide revenue for a dealer, and good revenue. If they didn't, we'd still be driving cars with solid rear axles and non-adjustable front ends. (same reason Ferrari dealers never really complained to the engineers to much about having to take the engine out of a Testarossa to change the water pump) If you are getting a full alignment at the dealer, and your car is 10-15 years old, expect several of the rubber bits to require replacement, with dealer parts. I'm not suggesting you or anyone should pass on needed replacement items, or put off properly servicing a car. I'm just saying, most likely by the time you have done a proper full alignment at the dealer on your older car, you will have well earned, and dare I say, paid for, your "free" Roadside Assistance. Dealers do not operate as charities for those of us who have a thing for German iron. Ed 300E On 12 December 2010 00:07, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: Getting your car aligned at the stealer does nothing for MB. Assuming the stealership is not gaming the system (that is a stretch), buying parts from the stealer does help MB. You don't think the premium you will pay for your dealer alignment isn't in part going towards covering your "free" roadside assist? Nothing in life is free. MB is a for profit business (which I'm all for), so if they're giving you something, you're paying for it one way or another. Hey, I'm not knocking Benz dealers, or the good ones. I buy most of my parts from them, and have offered to let them find and sell me cars on two occasions (OK, they fell through on both occasions). But I'm fully aware that part of the price of those oil filters and other bits I buy, just like your alignment, is helping to pay for the "free" stuff. ;-) Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
If you're at home, and by an outlet, maybe hit it with a hairdryer for a few minutes? Not too hot, keep it moving, you don't want to damage the paint or anything. I've had that too, where a mild day allows water to get inside, then freezes. If I know it's going to be really cold, I try to park so that the drivers door is facing the sun the next morning. Even if cold, that bit of sun can sometimes make a difference I find. Ed 300E On 13 December 2010 10:54, andrew strasfogel wrote: > I may need to call Roadside to unfreeze the door locks in my1985 > 300TD. I tried copious amounts of de-icer solution but it didn'tt > work. I can finally insert the key into the driver's door lock, but > it won't turn. What puzzles me is that it isn't even that cold in > D.C. but it rained a ton yesterday, then dipped below freezing last > night. > > What else can I do without wrecking my brand new door handle? > > Andrew > 300TDs - 1983 and '85 > > On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:48 AM, E M wrote: > > Alignments do provide revenue for a dealer, and good revenue. If they > > didn't, we'd still be driving cars with solid rear axles and > non-adjustable > > front ends. (same reason Ferrari dealers never really complained to the > > engineers to much about having to take the engine out of a Testarossa to > > change the water pump) > > > > If you are getting a full alignment at the dealer, and your car is 10-15 > > years old, expect several of the rubber bits to require replacement, with > > dealer parts. I'm not suggesting you or anyone should pass on needed > > replacement items, or put off properly servicing a car. I'm just saying, > > most likely by the time you have done a proper full alignment at the > dealer > > on your older car, you will have well earned, and dare I say, paid for, > your > > "free" Roadside Assistance. > > > > Dealers do not operate as charities for those of us who have a thing for > > German iron. > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > On 12 December 2010 00:07, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Getting your car aligned at the stealer does nothing for MB. Assuming > the > >> stealership is not gaming the system (that is a stretch), buying parts > from > >> the stealer does help MB. > >> > >> > >> You don't think the premium you will pay for your dealer alignment > isn't > >>> in > >>> part going towards covering your "free" roadside assist? Nothing in > life > >>> is > >>> free. MB is a for profit business (which I'm all for), so if they're > >>> giving > >>> you something, you're paying for it one way or another. > >>> > >>> Hey, I'm not knocking Benz dealers, or the good ones. I buy most of my > >>> parts from them, and have offered to let them find and sell me cars on > two > >>> occasions (OK, they fell through on both occasions). But I'm fully > aware > >>> that part of the price of those oil filters and other bits I buy, just > >>> like > >>> your alignment, is helping to pay for the "free" stuff. ;-) > >>> > >>> Ed > >>> 300E > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
I may need to call Roadside to unfreeze the door locks in my1985 300TD. I tried copious amounts of de-icer solution but it didn'tt work. I can finally insert the key into the driver's door lock, but it won't turn. What puzzles me is that it isn't even that cold in D.C. but it rained a ton yesterday, then dipped below freezing last night. What else can I do without wrecking my brand new door handle? Andrew 300TDs - 1983 and '85 On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:48 AM, E M wrote: > Alignments do provide revenue for a dealer, and good revenue. If they > didn't, we'd still be driving cars with solid rear axles and non-adjustable > front ends. (same reason Ferrari dealers never really complained to the > engineers to much about having to take the engine out of a Testarossa to > change the water pump) > > If you are getting a full alignment at the dealer, and your car is 10-15 > years old, expect several of the rubber bits to require replacement, with > dealer parts. I'm not suggesting you or anyone should pass on needed > replacement items, or put off properly servicing a car. I'm just saying, > most likely by the time you have done a proper full alignment at the dealer > on your older car, you will have well earned, and dare I say, paid for, your > "free" Roadside Assistance. > > Dealers do not operate as charities for those of us who have a thing for > German iron. > > Ed > 300E > > On 12 December 2010 00:07, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Getting your car aligned at the stealer does nothing for MB. Assuming the >> stealership is not gaming the system (that is a stretch), buying parts from >> the stealer does help MB. >> >> >> You don't think the premium you will pay for your dealer alignment isn't >>> in >>> part going towards covering your "free" roadside assist? Nothing in life >>> is >>> free. MB is a for profit business (which I'm all for), so if they're >>> giving >>> you something, you're paying for it one way or another. >>> >>> Hey, I'm not knocking Benz dealers, or the good ones. I buy most of my >>> parts from them, and have offered to let them find and sell me cars on two >>> occasions (OK, they fell through on both occasions). But I'm fully aware >>> that part of the price of those oil filters and other bits I buy, just >>> like >>> your alignment, is helping to pay for the "free" stuff. ;-) >>> >>> Ed >>> 300E >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
Ach good thing I pay AAA. (10% off @ NAPA)... BTW, MBNA only wants to tow you to a dealer... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 11, 2010, at 13:34, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > I got a letter from MBNA saying that they are "expanding coverage" by > dropping the service for anyone who does not get their car "regularly > serviced" at a MB stealership. > > If your car is under warranty, you are still covered. If you don't buy your > car from a stealership you will never be covered. > > The MB Roadside Assistance was a cool thing. Now it is not. > > RIP MB Roadside Assistance. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
Alignments do provide revenue for a dealer, and good revenue. If they didn't, we'd still be driving cars with solid rear axles and non-adjustable front ends. (same reason Ferrari dealers never really complained to the engineers to much about having to take the engine out of a Testarossa to change the water pump) If you are getting a full alignment at the dealer, and your car is 10-15 years old, expect several of the rubber bits to require replacement, with dealer parts. I'm not suggesting you or anyone should pass on needed replacement items, or put off properly servicing a car. I'm just saying, most likely by the time you have done a proper full alignment at the dealer on your older car, you will have well earned, and dare I say, paid for, your "free" Roadside Assistance. Dealers do not operate as charities for those of us who have a thing for German iron. Ed 300E On 12 December 2010 00:07, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Getting your car aligned at the stealer does nothing for MB. Assuming the > stealership is not gaming the system (that is a stretch), buying parts from > the stealer does help MB. > > > You don't think the premium you will pay for your dealer alignment isn't >> in >> part going towards covering your "free" roadside assist? Nothing in life >> is >> free. MB is a for profit business (which I'm all for), so if they're >> giving >> you something, you're paying for it one way or another. >> >> Hey, I'm not knocking Benz dealers, or the good ones. I buy most of my >> parts from them, and have offered to let them find and sell me cars on two >> occasions (OK, they fell through on both occasions). But I'm fully aware >> that part of the price of those oil filters and other bits I buy, just >> like >> your alignment, is helping to pay for the "free" stuff. ;-) >> >> Ed >> 300E >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
Getting your car aligned at the stealer does nothing for MB. Assuming the stealership is not gaming the system (that is a stretch), buying parts from the stealer does help MB. You don't think the premium you will pay for your dealer alignment isn't in part going towards covering your "free" roadside assist? Nothing in life is free. MB is a for profit business (which I'm all for), so if they're giving you something, you're paying for it one way or another. Hey, I'm not knocking Benz dealers, or the good ones. I buy most of my parts from them, and have offered to let them find and sell me cars on two occasions (OK, they fell through on both occasions). But I'm fully aware that part of the price of those oil filters and other bits I buy, just like your alignment, is helping to pay for the "free" stuff. ;-) Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
Absolutely. Wilton - Original Message - From: "E M" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out You don't think the premium you will pay for your dealer alignment isn't in part going towards covering your "free" roadside assist? Nothing in life is free. MB is a for profit business (which I'm all for), so if they're giving you something, you're paying for it one way or another. Hey, I'm not knocking Benz dealers, or the good ones. I buy most of my parts from them, and have offered to let them find and sell me cars on two occasions (OK, they fell through on both occasions). But I'm fully aware that part of the price of those oil filters and other bits I buy, just like your alignment, is helping to pay for the "free" stuff. ;-) Ed 300E On 11 December 2010 18:18, wrote: Well, I'll give you the other side. I've purchased two old MBs used from private owners. I've received MB roadside assistance on both (dead battery and a flat tire change). So, I didn't pay big bucks up front...I've let you other fellows do that and I've benefited from you wealth...thank you folks! Anyway, my point was again, that I need an alignment anyway, so I'll get it, which I need, get the free roadside assistance, and NOT pay AAA or Allstate or whoever for roadside assistance. But as always, everyone is free to make their own decision and choice. Best wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
Roger wrote << It does not seem to be an unreasonable requirement from MBNA>> Ditto - I always considered it a bit over the top for them to provide roadside help for any MB no matter how old. LarryT 91 300D -Original Message- From: roger...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 2:35 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out I received the same letter, but my copy indicated that if I had spent $100.00 within the last 18 months or continue to receive service at an authorized dealer, I would continue to get free roadside assistance. I don't see this as a major problem. I could take my car in for an alignment once a year and maintain the free roadside assistance. It does not seem to be an unreasonable requirement from MBNA. Sometimes, I think we all get spoiled with too many "free" items. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
You don't think the premium you will pay for your dealer alignment isn't in part going towards covering your "free" roadside assist? Nothing in life is free. MB is a for profit business (which I'm all for), so if they're giving you something, you're paying for it one way or another. Hey, I'm not knocking Benz dealers, or the good ones. I buy most of my parts from them, and have offered to let them find and sell me cars on two occasions (OK, they fell through on both occasions). But I'm fully aware that part of the price of those oil filters and other bits I buy, just like your alignment, is helping to pay for the "free" stuff. ;-) Ed 300E On 11 December 2010 18:18, wrote: > Well, I'll give you the other side. I've purchased two old MBs used from > private owners. I've received MB roadside assistance on both (dead battery > and a flat tire change). So, I didn't pay big bucks up front...I've let you > other fellows do that and I've benefited from you wealth...thank you folks! > Anyway, my point was again, that I need an alignment anyway, so I'll get it, > which I need, get the free roadside assistance, and NOT pay AAA or Allstate > or whoever for roadside assistance. But as always, everyone is free to make > their own decision and choice. > Best wishes, > Roger Hale > Monroe, Ga. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
Well, I guess that's helpful to keep folks in MBCA. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dimitri Seretakis Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 7:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out Apparently if you've been an MBCA member for at least twelve months prior to the initiation of this new policy which begins in January 2011 then you are still covered by roadside assistance. You have to currently be a member in good standing. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2010, at 6:18 PM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: Well, I'll give you the other side. I've purchased two old MBs used from private owners. I've received MB roadside assistance on both (dead battery and a flat tire change). So, I didn't pay big bucks up front...I've let you other fellows do that and I've benefited from you wealth...thank you folks! Anyway, my point was again, that I need an alignment anyway, so I'll get it, which I need, get the free roadside assistance, and NOT pay AAA or Allstate or whoever for roadside assistance. But as always, everyone is free to make their own decision and choice. Best wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
Apparently if you've been an MBCA member for at least twelve months prior to the initiation of this new policy which begins in January 2011 then you are still covered by roadside assistance. You have to currently be a member in good standing. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2010, at 6:18 PM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: Well, I'll give you the other side. I've purchased two old MBs used from private owners. I've received MB roadside assistance on both (dead battery and a flat tire change). So, I didn't pay big bucks up front...I've let you other fellows do that and I've benefited from you wealth...thank you folks! Anyway, my point was again, that I need an alignment anyway, so I'll get it, which I need, get the free roadside assistance, and NOT pay AAA or Allstate or whoever for roadside assistance. But as always, everyone is free to make their own decision and choice. Best wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
Well, I'll give you the other side. I've purchased two old MBs used from private owners. I've received MB roadside assistance on both (dead battery and a flat tire change). So, I didn't pay big bucks up front...I've let you other fellows do that and I've benefited from you wealth...thank you folks! Anyway, my point was again, that I need an alignment anyway, so I'll get it, which I need, get the free roadside assistance, and NOT pay AAA or Allstate or whoever for roadside assistance. But as always, everyone is free to make their own decision and choice. Best wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
Evidently the stealerships in your neck of the woods are better than the ones around here. 30 years ago, even 20 years ago, there were many good long time dealerships with knowledgeable staff around here. Then the MadAve geniuses got ahold of MBNA, changed it to MBUSA, kicked out all the good dealers and set up stealers under new ownership with kids that are parts changers. (Not to mention making cheapo plastic cars) There is not a stealer within 250 miles I would even let change the oil in one of my cars. Even if I had a brand new $100k S. Last time I had a dealer work on my car was a long-long time ago. I received the same letter, but my copy indicated that if I had spent $100.00 within the last 18 months or continue to receive service at an authorized dealer, I would continue to get free roadside assistance. I don't see this as a major problem. I could take my car in for an alignment once a year and maintain the free roadside assistance. It does not seem to be an unreasonable requirement from MBNA. Sometimes, I think we all get spoiled with too many "free" items. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I doubt if there are too many people with older cars that take advantage of this service -- what, like maybe every few years if a battery dies or a tire goes flat, if they even remember to call MB. Some bean counter probably figures they can save a $mil or so a year by pissing off the few MB customers and drivers who use the service without the service. Smart move. --R On 12/11/2010 1:34 PM, Dieselhead wrote: I got a letter from MBNA saying that they are "expanding coverage" by dropping the service for anyone who does not get their car "regularly serviced" at a MB stealership. If your car is under warranty, you are still covered. If you don't buy your car from a stealership you will never be covered. The MB Roadside Assistance was a cool thing. Now it is not. RIP MB Roadside Assistance. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I agree. Its not the services received are "free" its that they are earned. The purchase of a Benz provides the *expectation* that road side service be included, just like providing for the all of our freedoms through military service provides medical care as compensation for said service. Thank you for your service, Wilton. As a Side note - I hate it when these agreements change after purchase. I am a rather young working guy, but my father is a retired civil servant. He received fair compensation for his 30 years of dedicated service, but those years of service came with the promise of health care for himself and my mother, dental care, and some other benefits. Now that poor financial decisions have been made by our state, the rules are changing. This is fundementally unfair. Thanks for listening to my rant Peter On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 2:08 PM, WILTON wrote: > Absolutely, it's well paid for, not FREE. In the same manner that I've > have never gotten any FREE medical care, etc., as part of my military > retirement "compensation." It's all damned well paid for. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "E M" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 3:02 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out > > > > When you pay $50-100,000+ for a new Benz, I don't think there are any free >> items. You have paid for all the so called "included services" many many >> times over up front, whether you ever use them or not. >> >> Ed >> 300E >> >> On 11 December 2010 14:35, wrote: >> >> I received the same letter, but my copy indicated that if I had spent >>> $100.00 within the last 18 months or continue to receive service at an >>> authorized dealer, I would continue to get free roadside assistance. I >>> don't >>> see this as a major problem. I could take my car in for an alignment once >>> a >>> year and maintain the free roadside assistance. It does not seem to be an >>> unreasonable requirement from MBNA. Sometimes, I think we all get spoiled >>> with too many "free" items. >>> Best Wishes, >>> Roger Hale >>> Monroe, Ga. >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
Absolutely, it's well paid for, not FREE. In the same manner that I've have never gotten any FREE medical care, etc., as part of my military retirement "compensation." It's all damned well paid for. Wilton - Original Message - From: "E M" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out When you pay $50-100,000+ for a new Benz, I don't think there are any free items. You have paid for all the so called "included services" many many times over up front, whether you ever use them or not. Ed 300E On 11 December 2010 14:35, wrote: I received the same letter, but my copy indicated that if I had spent $100.00 within the last 18 months or continue to receive service at an authorized dealer, I would continue to get free roadside assistance. I don't see this as a major problem. I could take my car in for an alignment once a year and maintain the free roadside assistance. It does not seem to be an unreasonable requirement from MBNA. Sometimes, I think we all get spoiled with too many "free" items. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
When you pay $50-100,000+ for a new Benz, I don't think there are any free items. You have paid for all the so called "included services" many many times over up front, whether you ever use them or not. Ed 300E On 11 December 2010 14:35, wrote: > I received the same letter, but my copy indicated that if I had spent > $100.00 within the last 18 months or continue to receive service at an > authorized dealer, I would continue to get free roadside assistance. I don't > see this as a major problem. I could take my car in for an alignment once a > year and maintain the free roadside assistance. It does not seem to be an > unreasonable requirement from MBNA. Sometimes, I think we all get spoiled > with too many "free" items. > Best Wishes, > Roger Hale > Monroe, Ga. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah, I got it, too; never used 'em, anyway; thank God for AAA. 'Course, I wanta know how the Hell does that "expand service?" What a bunch of double talk BS! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> To: Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 1:34 PM Subject: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out I got a letter from MBNA saying that they are "expanding coverage" by dropping the service for anyone who does not get their car "regularly serviced" at a MB stealership. If your car is under warranty, you are still covered. If you don't buy your car from a stealership you will never be covered. The MB Roadside Assistance was a cool thing. Now it is not. RIP MB Roadside Assistance. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out
That is very disappointing. Some of the Asian car makers are offering superior roadside assistance compared to MB, and it also goes with the car regardless of owner. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 1:35 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] MBNA Cheaps out I got a letter from MBNA saying that they are "expanding coverage" by dropping the service for anyone who does not get their car "regularly serviced" at a MB stealership. If your car is under warranty, you are still covered. If you don't buy your car from a stealership you will never be covered. The MB Roadside Assistance was a cool thing. Now it is not. RIP MB Roadside Assistance. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
