Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Out on the desert here, if you lay down for a nap you will wake up with
vultures circling overhead. waiting just in case ;))

I've never seen them go for anything that's not dead. Rattlesnakes are
always hung on a fence to "ripen" and even coyotes won't touch them for 3
days... professional courtesy, I suppose..

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> Year ‘round.
>
> I’ve never seen them go after anything injured.  That’s not to say they
> won’t follow something they think is on its last legs, but they won’t
> attack it that I’ve ever seen.
>
> Food sources are too plentiful here, I suspect.  I see them all year
> long.  Sort of like the darned geese that used to winter in Wisconsin
> because some idiot took to feeding them.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 8, 2018, at 1:34 PM, fmiser via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Dan wrote:
> >
> >> As in Tejas, we have large groups of turkey vultures, which
> >> perform an amazing community service by clearing roads and
> >> pretty much and open areas of dead animals.
> >
> > Is that year 'round?  Or are there more of them in the winter?
> > I'm asking because most of the turkey vultures around here depart
> > for the winter.  A sure sign of spring is their return.
> >
> > And speaking of raptors, a couple days ago I saw an american
> > kestrel kiting near the road, and a few minutes later a bald eagle
> > flew over.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Year ‘round.

I’ve never seen them go after anything injured.  That’s not to say they won’t 
follow something they think is on its last legs, but they won’t attack it that 
I’ve ever seen.

Food sources are too plentiful here, I suspect.  I see them all year long.  
Sort of like the darned geese that used to winter in Wisconsin because some 
idiot took to feeding them.

-D


> On Jan 8, 2018, at 1:34 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
>> Dan wrote:
> 
>> As in Tejas, we have large groups of turkey vultures, which
>> perform an amazing community service by clearing roads and
>> pretty much and open areas of dead animals.
> 
> Is that year 'round?  Or are there more of them in the winter?
> I'm asking because most of the turkey vultures around here depart
> for the winter.  A sure sign of spring is their return.
> 
> And speaking of raptors, a couple days ago I saw an american
> kestrel kiting near the road, and a few minutes later a bald eagle
> flew over.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

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On 08/01/2018 12:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

In nature, nothing goes to waste everything gets recycled in its own
way.
Nature, is very efficient.



We toss squirrel carcasses on the brush pile that we build and burn at 
the lake. They normally disappear right away too. Not sure what takes 
them. Fox maybe or maybe crows.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

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On 08/01/2018 11:44 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
I might have related the story of the father and daughter in Texas who 
had gone out to hunt boars and after some time came back empty 
handed.  They were loading up the truck and one comes strolling across 
the dirt road right in front of the truck, the little girl who I 
remember being maybe 10 or 12 grabs her rifle and shoots the thing 
right there like 30ft away.  They took a picture of it, the thing was 
absolutely monstrous, not one of these little porkers you see running 
around but a full-grown several hundred pounder. Massive.  The little 
girl was quite proud.


--FT



Similar to the story of my friend, Greg,  from years back, which I may 
have related previously. He and his brother,. Bruce, went hunting in the 
interlake region north of Winnipeg. In order to ensure an early start, 
they drove up the night before and slept in the bucket seats of the 
truck beside a hydro access road. Come morning, Bruce quickly announced 
that Greg could build a fire and work on breakfast while he scouted 
around a bit. Greg was not all that amused, but since Bruce took off, he 
built a fire and got some coffee brewing. A few minutes later, a moose 
walked onto the road about 50 yards away. Greg got his gun and dropped 
the moose. Bruce came back a bit later and commented that he had heard a 
gun shot and asked if that was Greg shooting. Greg pointed behind the 
truck to the moose lying on the road. They were able to back the truck 
right up to it and load the quarters on to the truck. Much better than 
carrying it out of the bush.
The rest of the story is that they took it to Greg's house and hung it 
in the basement. His wife was off a the ballet with Bruce's wife. When 
she got home, she walked in and asked "what is that smell?". Greg took 
her to the basement to show off his prize. It got moved to a cold 
storage facility that afternoon. I do not blame her. I had called him 
that day and asked to borrow a big electric drill that I knew he had. He 
was agreeable and when I went to pick it up, he showed me the moose. It 
did have quite an odor.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have turkeys all over the vast estate, at least for a couple more 
weeks until turkey season opens.  I have not yet been attacked by any 
though.  If one decides to try, I might have a nice turkey dinner right 
quick.


--FT


On 1/8/18 2:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Beware the aggressive OH Turkeys!

Aggressive turkeys halt mail deliveryPublished: Monday, January 8, 2018

Aggressive wild turkeys are preventing postal carriers in Rocky River,
Ohio, from delivering mail to over two dozen homes in the area.

Several residents of the Cleveland suburb have had to pick up their mail at
the post office because the turkeys have created dangerous conditions for
the mail carriers.

Under its rules, the city is not allowed to get rid of the turkeys,
according to Rocky River Mayor Pam Bobst.

Rocky River has asked people to stop putting out bird feed, which could be
attracting the animals.

Some carriers have been pecked by the birds, but none has been injured,
according to a U.S. Postal Service spokesman (Associated Press
,
Jan. 7). *— CS*

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 2:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:


The vultures are here seasonally - I throw the dead squirrels out beside
the road for them to clean up, but they aren't here in the winter.
Something does carry them off though, they are rarely there the next
morning.

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:34 PM, fmiser via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:


Dan wrote:
As in Tejas, we have large groups of turkey vultures, which
perform an amazing community service by clearing roads and
pretty much and open areas of dead animals.

Is that year 'round?  Or are there more of them in the winter?
I'm asking because most of the turkey vultures around here depart
for the winter.  A sure sign of spring is their return.

And speaking of raptors, a couple days ago I saw an american
kestrel kiting near the road, and a few minutes later a bald eagle
flew over.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Beware the aggressive OH Turkeys!

Aggressive turkeys halt mail deliveryPublished: Monday, January 8, 2018

Aggressive wild turkeys are preventing postal carriers in Rocky River,
Ohio, from delivering mail to over two dozen homes in the area.

Several residents of the Cleveland suburb have had to pick up their mail at
the post office because the turkeys have created dangerous conditions for
the mail carriers.

Under its rules, the city is not allowed to get rid of the turkeys,
according to Rocky River Mayor Pam Bobst.

Rocky River has asked people to stop putting out bird feed, which could be
attracting the animals.

Some carriers have been pecked by the birds, but none has been injured,
according to a U.S. Postal Service spokesman (Associated Press
,
Jan. 7). *— CS*

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 2:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> The vultures are here seasonally - I throw the dead squirrels out beside
> the road for them to clean up, but they aren't here in the winter.
> Something does carry them off though, they are rarely there the next
> morning.
>
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:34 PM, fmiser via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > > Dan wrote:
> >
> > > As in Tejas, we have large groups of turkey vultures, which
> > > perform an amazing community service by clearing roads and
> > > pretty much and open areas of dead animals.
> >
> > Is that year 'round?  Or are there more of them in the winter?
> > I'm asking because most of the turkey vultures around here depart
> > for the winter.  A sure sign of spring is their return.
> >
> > And speaking of raptors, a couple days ago I saw an american
> > kestrel kiting near the road, and a few minutes later a bald eagle
> > flew over.
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The vultures are here seasonally - I throw the dead squirrels out beside
the road for them to clean up, but they aren't here in the winter.
Something does carry them off though, they are rarely there the next
morning.

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:34 PM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Dan wrote:
>
> > As in Tejas, we have large groups of turkey vultures, which
> > perform an amazing community service by clearing roads and
> > pretty much and open areas of dead animals.
>
> Is that year 'round?  Or are there more of them in the winter?
> I'm asking because most of the turkey vultures around here depart
> for the winter.  A sure sign of spring is their return.
>
> And speaking of raptors, a couple days ago I saw an american
> kestrel kiting near the road, and a few minutes later a bald eagle
> flew over.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[G Mann via Mercedes]

In nature, nothing goes to waste everything gets recycled in its own
way.
Nature, is very efficient.

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 11:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Thanks.  I guess coyotes fill the void.
>
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > They smell the decay scents and find whatever is emitting it, so it
> > usually takes a coupla days to get their attention, sometimes sooner in
> the
> > heat.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/8/18 1:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> One wonders whether vultures will go after an injured critter, or does
> it
> >> have to be fully dead?
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> As in Tejas, we have large groups of turkey vultures, which perform an
> >>> amazing community service by clearing roads and pretty much and open
> >>> areas
> >>> of dead animals.  They’re amazingly efficient, typically clearing a
> >>> carcass
> >>> in a matter of hours.  I can see a dead possum or armadillo freshly
> >>> deceased on the road when I go out in the morning and there will be no
> >>> trace of it when I come home in the afternoon.
> >>>
> >>> In the north our road and highway crews were often tasked with clearing
> >>> such stuff as a part of their jobs. Not necessary here.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 8, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> 
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  Then what did they do?  Leave it for the vultures?  Just curious.
> 
>  On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  I might have related the story of the father and daughter in Texas who
> >
>  had
> >>>
>  gone out to hunt boars and after some time came back empty handed.
> They
> > were loading up the truck and one comes strolling across the dirt
> road
> > right in front of the truck, the little girl who I remember being
> maybe
> >
>  10
> >>>
>  or 12 grabs her rifle and shoots the thing right there like 30ft away.
> > They took a picture of it, the thing was absolutely monstrous, not
> one
> >
>  of
> >>>
>  these little porkers you see running around but a full-grown several
> > hundred pounder.  Massive.  The little girl was quite proud.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> > On 1/5/18 6:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >>
> >> They are extremely dangerous to hunt, the trapper told me.  He said
> >>
> > they
> >>>
>  will turn on you in a heartbeat and if you’re not ready to pull the
> >>
> > trigger
> >>>
>  or you don’t make a good kill shot, you’re next.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 5, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> >>
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on a boar
> >>> hunt.
> >>> We don't have any up here...
> >>> -Curt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Thanks.  I guess coyotes fill the void.

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> They smell the decay scents and find whatever is emitting it, so it
> usually takes a coupla days to get their attention, sometimes sooner in the
> heat.
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 1/8/18 1:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> One wonders whether vultures will go after an injured critter, or does it
>> have to be fully dead?
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> As in Tejas, we have large groups of turkey vultures, which perform an
>>> amazing community service by clearing roads and pretty much and open
>>> areas
>>> of dead animals.  They’re amazingly efficient, typically clearing a
>>> carcass
>>> in a matter of hours.  I can see a dead possum or armadillo freshly
>>> deceased on the road when I go out in the morning and there will be no
>>> trace of it when I come home in the afternoon.
>>>
>>> In the north our road and highway crews were often tasked with clearing
>>> such stuff as a part of their jobs. Not necessary here.
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
 Then what did they do?  Leave it for the vultures?  Just curious.

 On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

 I might have related the story of the father and daughter in Texas who
>
 had
>>>
 gone out to hunt boars and after some time came back empty handed.  They
> were loading up the truck and one comes strolling across the dirt road
> right in front of the truck, the little girl who I remember being maybe
>
 10
>>>
 or 12 grabs her rifle and shoots the thing right there like 30ft away.
> They took a picture of it, the thing was absolutely monstrous, not one
>
 of
>>>
 these little porkers you see running around but a full-grown several
> hundred pounder.  Massive.  The little girl was quite proud.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 1/5/18 6:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>> They are extremely dangerous to hunt, the trapper told me.  He said
>>
> they
>>>
 will turn on you in a heartbeat and if you’re not ready to pull the
>>
> trigger
>>>
 or you don’t make a good kill shot, you’re next.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>
>> On Jan 5, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on a boar
>>> hunt.
>>> We don't have any up here...
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

They smell the decay scents and find whatever is emitting it, so it 
usually takes a coupla days to get their attention, sometimes sooner in 
the heat.


--FT


On 1/8/18 1:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

One wonders whether vultures will go after an injured critter, or does it
have to be fully dead?

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


As in Tejas, we have large groups of turkey vultures, which perform an
amazing community service by clearing roads and pretty much and open areas
of dead animals.  They’re amazingly efficient, typically clearing a carcass
in a matter of hours.  I can see a dead possum or armadillo freshly
deceased on the road when I go out in the morning and there will be no
trace of it when I come home in the afternoon.

In the north our road and highway crews were often tasked with clearing
such stuff as a part of their jobs. Not necessary here.

-D


On Jan 8, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Then what did they do?  Leave it for the vultures?  Just curious.

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I might have related the story of the father and daughter in Texas who

had

gone out to hunt boars and after some time came back empty handed.  They
were loading up the truck and one comes strolling across the dirt road
right in front of the truck, the little girl who I remember being maybe

10

or 12 grabs her rifle and shoots the thing right there like 30ft away.
They took a picture of it, the thing was absolutely monstrous, not one

of

these little porkers you see running around but a full-grown several
hundred pounder.  Massive.  The little girl was quite proud.

--FT



On 1/5/18 6:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

They are extremely dangerous to hunt, the trapper told me.  He said

they

will turn on you in a heartbeat and if you’re not ready to pull the

trigger

or you don’t make a good kill shot, you’re next.

-D


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on a boar hunt.
We don't have any up here...
-Curt





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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Maybe they left some bits for the clean-up crews after they butchered it 
and took it home, where it probably went on the smoke for a half day or so


--FT


On 1/8/18 12:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Then what did they do?  Leave it for the vultures? Just curious.

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> wrote:


I might have related the story of the father and daughter in Texas
who had gone out to hunt boars and after some time came back empty
handed.  They were loading up the truck and one comes strolling
across the dirt road right in front of the truck, the little girl
who I remember being maybe 10 or 12 grabs her rifle and shoots the
thing right there like 30ft away. They took a picture of it, the
thing was absolutely monstrous, not one of these little porkers
you see running around but a full-grown several hundred pounder. 
Massive. The little girl was quite proud.

--FT


On 1/5/18 6:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

They are extremely dangerous to hunt, the trapper told me.  He
said they will turn on you in a heartbeat and if you’re not
ready to pull the trigger or you don’t make a good kill shot,
you’re next.

-D


On Jan 5, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> wrote:

I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on
a boar hunt. We don't have any up here...
-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Dan wrote:

> As in Tejas, we have large groups of turkey vultures, which
> perform an amazing community service by clearing roads and
> pretty much and open areas of dead animals.

Is that year 'round?  Or are there more of them in the winter?
I'm asking because most of the turkey vultures around here depart
for the winter.  A sure sign of spring is their return.

And speaking of raptors, a couple days ago I saw an american
kestrel kiting near the road, and a few minutes later a bald eagle
flew over.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

One wonders whether vultures will go after an injured critter, or does it
have to be fully dead?

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> As in Tejas, we have large groups of turkey vultures, which perform an
> amazing community service by clearing roads and pretty much and open areas
> of dead animals.  They’re amazingly efficient, typically clearing a carcass
> in a matter of hours.  I can see a dead possum or armadillo freshly
> deceased on the road when I go out in the morning and there will be no
> trace of it when I come home in the afternoon.
>
> In the north our road and highway crews were often tasked with clearing
> such stuff as a part of their jobs. Not necessary here.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jan 8, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Then what did they do?  Leave it for the vultures?  Just curious.
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I might have related the story of the father and daughter in Texas who
> had
> >> gone out to hunt boars and after some time came back empty handed.  They
> >> were loading up the truck and one comes strolling across the dirt road
> >> right in front of the truck, the little girl who I remember being maybe
> 10
> >> or 12 grabs her rifle and shoots the thing right there like 30ft away.
> >> They took a picture of it, the thing was absolutely monstrous, not one
> of
> >> these little porkers you see running around but a full-grown several
> >> hundred pounder.  Massive.  The little girl was quite proud.
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 1/5/18 6:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>
> >>> They are extremely dangerous to hunt, the trapper told me.  He said
> they
> >>> will turn on you in a heartbeat and if you’re not ready to pull the
> trigger
> >>> or you don’t make a good kill shot, you’re next.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 5, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on a boar hunt.
>  We don't have any up here...
>  -Curt
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

As in Tejas, we have large groups of turkey vultures, which perform an amazing 
community service by clearing roads and pretty much and open areas of dead 
animals.  They’re amazingly efficient, typically clearing a carcass in a matter 
of hours.  I can see a dead possum or armadillo freshly deceased on the road 
when I go out in the morning and there will be no trace of it when I come home 
in the afternoon.

In the north our road and highway crews were often tasked with clearing such 
stuff as a part of their jobs. Not necessary here.

-D

> On Jan 8, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Then what did they do?  Leave it for the vultures?  Just curious.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I might have related the story of the father and daughter in Texas who had
>> gone out to hunt boars and after some time came back empty handed.  They
>> were loading up the truck and one comes strolling across the dirt road
>> right in front of the truck, the little girl who I remember being maybe 10
>> or 12 grabs her rifle and shoots the thing right there like 30ft away.
>> They took a picture of it, the thing was absolutely monstrous, not one of
>> these little porkers you see running around but a full-grown several
>> hundred pounder.  Massive.  The little girl was quite proud.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1/5/18 6:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> They are extremely dangerous to hunt, the trapper told me.  He said they
>>> will turn on you in a heartbeat and if you’re not ready to pull the trigger
>>> or you don’t make a good kill shot, you’re next.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on a boar hunt.
 We don't have any up here...
 -Curt
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Then what did they do?  Leave it for the vultures?  Just curious.

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I might have related the story of the father and daughter in Texas who had
> gone out to hunt boars and after some time came back empty handed.  They
> were loading up the truck and one comes strolling across the dirt road
> right in front of the truck, the little girl who I remember being maybe 10
> or 12 grabs her rifle and shoots the thing right there like 30ft away.
> They took a picture of it, the thing was absolutely monstrous, not one of
> these little porkers you see running around but a full-grown several
> hundred pounder.  Massive.  The little girl was quite proud.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 1/5/18 6:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> They are extremely dangerous to hunt, the trapper told me.  He said they
>> will turn on you in a heartbeat and if you’re not ready to pull the trigger
>> or you don’t make a good kill shot, you’re next.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>
>> On Jan 5, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on a boar hunt.
>>> We don't have any up here...
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I might have related the story of the father and daughter in Texas who 
had gone out to hunt boars and after some time came back empty handed.  
They were loading up the truck and one comes strolling across the dirt 
road right in front of the truck, the little girl who I remember being 
maybe 10 or 12 grabs her rifle and shoots the thing right there like 
30ft away.  They took a picture of it, the thing was absolutely 
monstrous, not one of these little porkers you see running around but a 
full-grown several hundred pounder.  Massive.  The little girl was quite 
proud.


--FT


On 1/5/18 6:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

They are extremely dangerous to hunt, the trapper told me.  He said they will 
turn on you in a heartbeat and if you’re not ready to pull the trigger or you 
don’t make a good kill shot, you’re next.

-D



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wrote:

I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on a boar hunt. We don't 
have any up here...
-Curt


 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> G wrote:

> For those of you who have never been hunting:
> 
> https://www.helibacon.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIk4idlNjG2AIVCYGzCh2DTgeaEAAYAiAAEgJ2w_D_BwE

I guess I'm picky.

The copy says "...M16 in your hands." and a bit later "Reload the
machine gun and engage."

*sigh*

Even at full auto an M16 is not a machine gun...

Of course, it makes me suspicious of the accuracy of everything
else on the site.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Dan wrote:

> That’s not hunting, that’s eradication.  Hunting would imply
> tracking and stalking your prey.

Tracking and stalking is - well, tracking and stalking.  Hunting
is "go looking for prey".  I see no requirement for tracking, or
stalking, or hiding in a blind, or being "sporting" in "hunting".
YMMV

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

That your outfit?

G Mann via Mercedes 
January 7, 2018 at 2:30 PM
For those of you who have never been hunting:

https://www.helibacon.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIk4idlNjG2AIVCYGzCh2DTgeaEAAYAiAAEgJ2w_D_BwE


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s not hunting, that’s eradication.  Hunting would imply tracking and 
stalking your prey.

I’m not criticizing, as I fully understand the rationale behind what they’re 
doing.  I just don’t see anything sporting about it.

-D

> On Jan 7, 2018, at 3:39 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Or, if you prefer shotgun:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV_d0IMJ_tk
> 
> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 1:30 PM, G Mann  wrote:
> 
>> For those of you who have never been hunting:
>> 
>> https://www.helibacon.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIk4idlNjG2AIVCYGzCh
>> 2DTgeaEAAYAiAAEgJ2w_D_BwE
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Or, if you prefer shotgun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV_d0IMJ_tk

On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 1:30 PM, G Mann  wrote:

> For those of you who have never been hunting:
>
> https://www.helibacon.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIk4idlNjG2AIVCYGzCh
> 2DTgeaEAAYAiAAEgJ2w_D_BwE
>
> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> That’s usually what prompts a call to the trapper. They go around tearing
>> up people’s yards and as HOA VP I get the word.
>>
>> -D
>>
>> > On Jan 7, 2018, at 12:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > My BIL lives a bit south of Houston, he has had herds of them come
>> through the neighborhood and dig up every yard.  Can't deal effectively
>> with them in the residential community though he has the means to do so.
>> >
>> > --FT
>> >
>> >
>> > On 1/5/18 5:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> >> I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on a boar hunt.
>> We don't have any up here...
>> >> -Curt
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

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For those of you who have never been hunting:

https://www.helibacon.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIk4idlNjG2AIVCYGzCh2DTgeaEAAYAiAAEgJ2w_D_BwE

On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That’s usually what prompts a call to the trapper. They go around tearing
> up people’s yards and as HOA VP I get the word.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jan 7, 2018, at 12:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > My BIL lives a bit south of Houston, he has had herds of them come
> through the neighborhood and dig up every yard.  Can't deal effectively
> with them in the residential community though he has the means to do so.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> > On 1/5/18 5:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on a boar hunt.
> We don't have any up here...
> >> -Curt
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s usually what prompts a call to the trapper. They go around tearing up 
people’s yards and as HOA VP I get the word.

-D

> On Jan 7, 2018, at 12:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My BIL lives a bit south of Houston, he has had herds of them come through 
> the neighborhood and dig up every yard.  Can't deal effectively with them in 
> the residential community though he has the means to do so.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 1/5/18 5:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on a boar hunt. We 
>> don't have any up here...
>> -Curt
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

My BIL lives a bit south of Houston, he has had herds of them come 
through the neighborhood and dig up every yard.  Can't deal effectively 
with them in the residential community though he has the means to do so.


--FT


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I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on a boar hunt. We don't 
have any up here...
-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[G Mann via Mercedes]

From what I've read on the subject, domestic hogs go feral more quickly
than any domestic animal. The folks that study such things wrote it only
takes 2 generations for a "full wild hog conversion" to happen.

A wild boar with full tusk is a force to contend with, head on.

On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 9:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> OR 100% boar...
>
> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 11:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
>
> > Blended with other meats of 100% boar?
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 10:57 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 21:18:57 -0600
> >> "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes"  wrote:
> >>
> >> Dan Penoff wrote:
> >> > > We have a local trapper that comes in with his dogs and traps them
> for
> >> > > free. He’s given me lots of pork in return.  Yum.
> >> > > He has a couple of dogs that he uses to trap the boars, it’s really
> >> pretty
> >> > > cool.  One is a hound (bay) that finds them, the other a (catch)
> >> mastiff
> >> > > sort of dog (I don’t know what he breed is) that catches the boars
> by
> >> the
> >> > > throat and holds them until he can get there, snare them and put
> them
> >> in a
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> >> spikes on
> >> > > them.
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> damn
> >> > dog!"
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> >> Around here in West Central Florida a wild hog can rip a dog or a person
> >> to pieces with its sharp tusks. The trained "boar dogs" will grab a hog
> by
> >> it's ears so it can't gore them with its tusks, and another will grab
> its
> >> throat or hold it while the hunter shoots it.
> >> Wild hogs are not like domestic pigs. They are built more like dogs and
> >> can run like dogs; very dangerous. Your only escape from a wild hog
> that's
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> not
> >> armed.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

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OR 100% boar...

On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 11:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> Blended with other meats of 100% boar?
>
> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 10:57 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 21:18:57 -0600
>> "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes"  wrote:
>>
>> Dan Penoff wrote:
>> > > We have a local trapper that comes in with his dogs and traps them for
>> > > free. He’s given me lots of pork in return.  Yum.
>> > > He has a couple of dogs that he uses to trap the boars, it’s really
>> pretty
>> > > cool.  One is a hound (bay) that finds them, the other a (catch)
>> mastiff
>> > > sort of dog (I don’t know what he breed is) that catches the boars by
>> the
>> > > throat and holds them until he can get there, snare them and put them
>> in a
>> > > cage.  Both of the dogs wear these big heavy leather collars with
>> spikes on
>> > > them.
>>
>> > I'm minded of that old joke.  "If I fall out of the tree, shoot the damn
>> > dog!"
>> > -MMM-
>> ~~
>> Around here in West Central Florida a wild hog can rip a dog or a person
>> to pieces with its sharp tusks. The trained "boar dogs" will grab a hog by
>> it's ears so it can't gore them with its tusks, and another will grab its
>> throat or hold it while the hunter shoots it.
>> Wild hogs are not like domestic pigs. They are built more like dogs and
>> can run like dogs; very dangerous. Your only escape from a wild hog that's
>> chasing you is to go up a tree or the bed of a pickup truck if you're not
>> armed.
>> Since boar meat around here can taste "gamey", most of it is ground into
>> sausage. It's some of the best sausage I've ever eaten.
>> Gerry
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

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Blended with other meats of 100% boar?

On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 10:57 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 21:18:57 -0600
> "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes"  wrote:
>
> Dan Penoff wrote:
> > > We have a local trapper that comes in with his dogs and traps them for
> > > free. He’s given me lots of pork in return.  Yum.
> > > He has a couple of dogs that he uses to trap the boars, it’s really
> pretty
> > > cool.  One is a hound (bay) that finds them, the other a (catch)
> mastiff
> > > sort of dog (I don’t know what he breed is) that catches the boars by
> the
> > > throat and holds them until he can get there, snare them and put them
> in a
> > > cage.  Both of the dogs wear these big heavy leather collars with
> spikes on
> > > them.
>
> > I'm minded of that old joke.  "If I fall out of the tree, shoot the damn
> > dog!"
> > -MMM-
> ~~
> Around here in West Central Florida a wild hog can rip a dog or a person
> to pieces with its sharp tusks. The trained "boar dogs" will grab a hog by
> it's ears so it can't gore them with its tusks, and another will grab its
> throat or hold it while the hunter shoots it.
> Wild hogs are not like domestic pigs. They are built more like dogs and
> can run like dogs; very dangerous. Your only escape from a wild hog that's
> chasing you is to go up a tree or the bed of a pickup truck if you're not
> armed.
> Since boar meat around here can taste "gamey", most of it is ground into
> sausage. It's some of the best sausage I've ever eaten.
> Gerry
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

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On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 21:18:57 -0600
"M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes"  wrote:

Dan Penoff wrote:
> > We have a local trapper that comes in with his dogs and traps them for
> > free. He’s given me lots of pork in return.  Yum.
> > He has a couple of dogs that he uses to trap the boars, it’s really pretty
> > cool.  One is a hound (bay) that finds them, the other a (catch) mastiff
> > sort of dog (I don’t know what he breed is) that catches the boars by the
> > throat and holds them until he can get there, snare them and put them in a
> > cage.  Both of the dogs wear these big heavy leather collars with spikes on
> > them.
 
> I'm minded of that old joke.  "If I fall out of the tree, shoot the damn
> dog!"
> -MMM-
~~
Around here in West Central Florida a wild hog can rip a dog or a person to 
pieces with its sharp tusks. The trained "boar dogs" will grab a hog by it's 
ears so it can't gore them with its tusks, and another will grab its throat or 
hold it while the hunter shoots it.
Wild hogs are not like domestic pigs. They are built more like dogs and can run 
like dogs; very dangerous. Your only escape from a wild hog that's chasing you 
is to go up a tree or the bed of a pickup truck if you're not armed.
Since boar meat around here can taste "gamey", most of it is ground into 
sausage. It's some of the best sausage I've ever eaten.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

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clay wrote:
> I am sort of interested in the impact on all the out of town snakes that got 
> let loose in the state.  Will this cold snap just slow them down, or will it 
> be able to knock out a pretty healthy proportion of them?
> Iguana is tasty.  Get it into the freezer until you have a goodly amount, 
> then you can make chili, or taco filling.  Cuban sandwich?
~~

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

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On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> We have a local trapper that comes in with his dogs and traps them for
> free. He’s given me lots of pork in return.  Yum.
>
> He has a couple of dogs that he uses to trap the boars, it’s really pretty
> cool.  One is a hound (bay) that finds them, the other a (catch) mastiff
> sort of dog (I don’t know what he breed is) that catches the boars by the
> throat and holds them until he can get there, snare them and put them in a
> cage.  Both of the dogs wear these big heavy leather collars with spikes on
> them.
>

I'm minded of that old joke.  "If I fall out of the tree, shoot the damn
dog!"

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s possible as we do have a lot of wasps, but having kept bees I can assure 
you that most of the pollinators visiting the tree are honeybees.

The trapper we use to clear our park of wild boars of which I referred to 
previously sells most of his catch to the Latino community in the area.  He 
says they pay very, very well for a whole live boar and there’s always a demand.

-D


> On Jan 5, 2018, at 6:29 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The bees might be wasps.  They like to lay eggs in the fruit.  It is a 
> symbiotic relationship.  The fruit is only good for like a day or so.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

It might surprise you how many states do have wild, or at least feral porcine 
are a pest.  WA has an issue in the hinterlands.  Not sure if the Latin 
immigrants are trying to trim the numbers.  Practice for drive bys and such, 
and you get lots of meat for tacos


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> On Jan 5, 2018, at 2:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on a boar hunt. We 
> don't have any up here...
> -Curt
> 
> 
>On Friday, January 5, 2018, 3:17:07 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Bruce Gamble, in The Black Sheep describes a situation in the South 
> Pacific, were wild hogs were wrecking things, so a fence was set up to 
> keep them out.  The fence was of limited success.  The CO had made it 
> clear nobody could shoot them.  So the ever creative Yankees opened the 
> gat to the fenced area, waited until all the hogs were inside,closed the 
> gate.  They then tried to club the hogs, but some of the boars were 
> troublesome, so they  let them out and clubbed the rest.  The resulting 
> pigroast fed fresh meat to over 500 men of two squadrons including 
> ground personnel!
> 
> Yes, wild hog is good eatin'.  Just be sure to cut off certain parts of 
> the boars right away.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> January 5, 2018 at 1:41 PM
>> 
>> 
>> Got a lot of wild boars, however. How’s about a pig roast?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

The bees might be wasps.  They like to lay eggs in the fruit.  It is a 
symbiotic relationship.  The fruit is only good for like a day or so.


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> On Jan 5, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That’s what we refer to them as.  I’ve never tried to pick one or eat them.  
> I look at it as a contribution to keeping the local flora and fauna alive.  
> Especially the bees, as I used to keep bees when I lived in Indiana.  And I 
> understand that picking the fruit won’t affect the bees….
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 5, 2018, at 1:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
>> 
>> Why ornamental figs?  Why not grow a real one?  If you don't like figs ship 
>> them north. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They are extremely dangerous to hunt, the trapper told me.  He said they will 
turn on you in a heartbeat and if you’re not ready to pull the trigger or you 
don’t make a good kill shot, you’re next.

-D


> On Jan 5, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on a boar hunt. We 
> don't have any up here...
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

And boors, we've got some of them. I try not to be

-Curt
 

On Friday, January 5, 2018, 5:39:52 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On 05/01/2018 4:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on a boar hunt. We 
> don't have any up here...
> -Curt
>  
>

No boars - just bores?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 05/01/2018 4:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on a boar hunt. We don't 
have any up here...
-Curt
  



No boars - just bores?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I've got a cousin in Texas, need to get him to take me on a boar hunt. We don't 
have any up here...
-Curt
 

On Friday, January 5, 2018, 3:17:07 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Bruce Gamble, in The Black Sheep describes a situation in the South 
Pacific, were wild hogs were wrecking things, so a fence was set up to 
keep them out.  The fence was of limited success.  The CO had made it 
clear nobody could shoot them.  So the ever creative Yankees opened the 
gat to the fenced area, waited until all the hogs were inside,closed the 
gate.  They then tried to club the hogs, but some of the boars were 
troublesome, so they  let them out and clubbed the rest.  The resulting 
pigroast fed fresh meat to over 500 men of two squadrons including 
ground personnel!

Yes, wild hog is good eatin'.  Just be sure to cut off certain parts of 
the boars right away.

> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> January 5, 2018 at 1:41 PM
>
>
> Got a lot of wild boars, however. How’s about a pig roast?
>
> -D
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

We had iguana in Honduras it was like greasy chicken with fish skin...
-Curt
 

On Friday, January 5, 2018, 2:28:17 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Iguana tail is supposed to be good eating - though I've never had the
opportunity to try it. Since they are an invasive species in FL - you'd
think people would be encouraged to collect and eat them.

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Why ornamental figs?  Why not grow a real one?  If you don't like figs ship
> them north.
>
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > It got down to freezing the last two nights.  Might make it up to the low
> > 50s today, but it’s bright and sunny (thank goodness!)
> >
> > Iguanas are more of a south Florida thing.  We do have lizards in our
> > trees and bushes, however, but I haven’t seen any fall out.  Kitty will
> > alert me if that happens, as she likes to patrol the front windows to
> watch
> > the ornamental fig tree this time of year.  It’s a (literal) beehive of
> > activity with bees, birds and chicken of the trees in it as it goes from
> > flowering to producing fruit.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 5, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > *-- Here's something you don't see every day:* The extreme cold in
> > Florida
> > > has led to frozen iguanas falling out of trees. The Post's Herman Wong
> > > explains
> > >  > YXN0cmFzZm9AYmxtLmdvdg%3D%3D/48/74/b30e639bcfaf933992e5f3db85511ad0>that
> > > "green iguanas, like all reptiles, are coldblooded animals, so when the
> > > temperature falls to a certain level iguanas become immobile." "Under
> 50
> > > degrees Fahrenheit, they become sluggish. Under 40 degrees, their blood
> > > stops moving as much, [Kristen Sommers of the Florida Fish and Wildlife
> > > Conservation Commission] said. They like to sit in trees, and 'it’s
> > become
> > > cold enough that they fall out.'"
> > >
> > > Dan - is falling lizards a safety threat down in Tampa?
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[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Aruba, if you ask a local nicely

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On 1/5/18 2:58 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Whilst on several foreign trips to locales with native iguanas (Central
America a Caribbean islands)  I have inquired about finding a store or
restaurant that serves Iguana, and I have not yet found a place but I've
gotten plenty of strange looks.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I am sort of interested in the impact on all the out of town snakes that got 
let loose in the state.  Will this cold snap just slow them down, or will it be 
able to knock out a pretty healthy proportion of them?

Iguana is tasty.  Get it into the freezer until you have a goodly amount, then 
you can make chili, or taco filling.  Cuban sandwich?

clay 

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> On Jan 5, 2018, at 8:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> *-- Here's something you don't see every day:* The extreme cold in Florida
> has led to frozen iguanas falling out of trees. The Post's Herman Wong
> explains
> that
> "green iguanas, like all reptiles, are coldblooded animals, so when the
> temperature falls to a certain level iguanas become immobile." "Under 50
> degrees Fahrenheit, they become sluggish. Under 40 degrees, their blood
> stops moving as much, [Kristen Sommers of the Florida Fish and Wildlife
> Conservation Commission] said. They like to sit in trees, and 'it’s become
> cold enough that they fall out.'"
> 
> Dan - is falling lizards a safety threat down in Tampa?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

We have a local trapper that comes in with his dogs and traps them for free. 
He’s given me lots of pork in return.  Yum.

He has a couple of dogs that he uses to trap the boars, it’s really pretty 
cool.  One is a hound (bay) that finds them, the other a (catch) mastiff sort 
of dog (I don’t know what he breed is) that catches the boars by the throat and 
holds them until he can get there, snare them and put them in a cage.  Both of 
the dogs wear these big heavy leather collars with spikes on them.

-D


> On Jan 5, 2018, at 3:16 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bruce Gamble, in The Black Sheep describes a situation in the South Pacific, 
> were wild hogs were wrecking things, so a fence was set up to keep them out.  
> The fence was of limited success.  The CO had made it clear nobody could 
> shoot them.  So the ever creative Yankees opened the gat to the fenced area, 
> waited until all the hogs were inside,closed the gate.   They then tried to 
> club the hogs, but some of the boars were troublesome, so they  let them out 
> and clubbed the rest.  The resulting pigroast fed fresh meat to over 500 men 
> of two squadrons including ground personnel!
> 
> Yes, wild hog is good eatin'.  Just be sure to cut off certain parts of the 
> boars right away.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> January 5, 2018 at 1:41 PM
>> 
>> 
>> Got a lot of wild boars, however. How’s about a pig roast?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Sounds like a great experience and a great meal.   The key to anything 
that might be tough is low and slow.


At noon I just had some more of my Man Candy(TM)  Home cured corn beef 
brisket, so tender it melts in you mouth   m  (cooked low 
and slow)


My cousins and uncle in Hawaii hunted wild boar regularly.  I never got 
in on any hunt nor the meals.  Uncle had an o3A3 (30-06) he used to get 
em.   Some of the Hawaiian crazies tried to get in close and cut the 
jugular with a knife.  A lot of dogs got killed by the pigs.

Andrew Strasfogel 
January 5, 2018 at 2:23 PM
I had wild boar sukiyaki prepared by Japanese gold miners when I was 
in Fiji.  Very juicy and flavorful, and not too tough IIRC.





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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I had wild boar sukiyaki prepared by Japanese gold miners when I was in
Fiji.  Very juicy and flavorful, and not too tough IIRC.



On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Bruce Gamble, in The Black Sheep describes a situation in the South
> Pacific, were wild hogs were wrecking things, so a fence was set up to keep
> them out.  The fence was of limited success.  The CO had made it clear
> nobody could shoot them.  So the ever creative Yankees opened the gat to
> the fenced area, waited until all the hogs were inside,closed the gate.
>  They then tried to club the hogs, but some of the boars were troublesome,
> so they  let them out and clubbed the rest.  The resulting pigroast fed
> fresh meat to over 500 men of two squadrons including ground personnel!
>
> Yes, wild hog is good eatin'.  Just be sure to cut off certain parts of
> the boars right away.
>
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> January 5, 2018 at 1:41 PM
>>
>>
>> Got a lot of wild boars, however. How’s about a pig roast?
>>
>> -D
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Bruce Gamble, in The Black Sheep describes a situation in the South 
Pacific, were wild hogs were wrecking things, so a fence was set up to 
keep them out.  The fence was of limited success.  The CO had made it 
clear nobody could shoot them.  So the ever creative Yankees opened the 
gat to the fenced area, waited until all the hogs were inside,closed the 
gate.   They then tried to club the hogs, but some of the boars were 
troublesome, so they  let them out and clubbed the rest.  The resulting 
pigroast fed fresh meat to over 500 men of two squadrons including 
ground personnel!


Yes, wild hog is good eatin'.  Just be sure to cut off certain parts of 
the boars right away.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
January 5, 2018 at 1:41 PM


Got a lot of wild boars, however. How’s about a pig roast?

-D



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Whilst on several foreign trips to locales with native iguanas (Central
America a Caribbean islands)  I have inquired about finding a store or
restaurant that serves Iguana, and I have not yet found a place but I've
gotten plenty of strange looks.

-
Max
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Lizards falling off trees reminds me of the Shmoo (plural Shmoon) invented
by cartoonist Al Capp.

Shmoos ".. reproduce asexually and are incredibly prolific, multiplying
exponentially faster than rabbits. They require no sustenance other than
air.
- Shmoos are delicious to eat, and are eager to be eaten. If a human looks
at one hungrily, it will happily immolate itself — either by jumping into a
frying pan, after which they taste like chicken, or into a broiling pan,
after which they taste like steak. When roasted they taste like pork, and
when baked they taste like catfish. (Raw, they taste like oysters
 on the half-shell.)"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shmoo

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> While the python thing is purely south Florida/Everglades, understand that
> they are extremely difficult to catch.  The state has a very nice bounty on
> them, but I don’t think there are many caught on an annual basis.
>
> Again, iguanas are not common this far north, as it’s not a tropical
> subclimate like south Florida is.  We have little skinks and lizards, but
> no iguanas like they showed in the story.
>
> Got a lot of wild boars, however.  How’s about a pig roast?
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 5, 2018, at 2:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Someone down there needs to write and market a python cookbook.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 2:28 PM, OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Iguana tail is supposed to be good eating - though I've never had the
> >> opportunity to try it. Since they are an invasive species in FL - you'd
> >> think people would be encouraged to collect and eat them.
> >>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

While the python thing is purely south Florida/Everglades, understand that they 
are extremely difficult to catch.  The state has a very nice bounty on them, 
but I don’t think there are many caught on an annual basis.

Again, iguanas are not common this far north, as it’s not a tropical subclimate 
like south Florida is.  We have little skinks and lizards, but no iguanas like 
they showed in the story.

Got a lot of wild boars, however.  How’s about a pig roast?

-D


> On Jan 5, 2018, at 2:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Someone down there needs to write and market a python cookbook.
> 
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 2:28 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Iguana tail is supposed to be good eating - though I've never had the
>> opportunity to try it. Since they are an invasive species in FL - you'd
>> think people would be encouraged to collect and eat them.
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Someone down there needs to write and market a python cookbook.

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 2:28 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Iguana tail is supposed to be good eating - though I've never had the
> opportunity to try it. Since they are an invasive species in FL - you'd
> think people would be encouraged to collect and eat them.
>
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Why ornamental figs?  Why not grow a real one?  If you don't like figs
> ship
> > them north.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > It got down to freezing the last two nights.  Might make it up to the
> low
> > > 50s today, but it’s bright and sunny (thank goodness!)
> > >
> > > Iguanas are more of a south Florida thing.  We do have lizards in our
> > > trees and bushes, however, but I haven’t seen any fall out.  Kitty will
> > > alert me if that happens, as she likes to patrol the front windows to
> > watch
> > > the ornamental fig tree this time of year.  It’s a (literal) beehive of
> > > activity with bees, birds and chicken of the trees in it as it goes
> from
> > > flowering to producing fruit.
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Jan 5, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > *-- Here's something you don't see every day:* The extreme cold in
> > > Florida
> > > > has led to frozen iguanas falling out of trees. The Post's Herman
> Wong
> > > > explains
> > > >  > > YXN0cmFzZm9AYmxtLmdvdg%3D%3D/48/74/b30e639bcfaf933992e5f3db85511a
> d0>that
> > > > "green iguanas, like all reptiles, are coldblooded animals, so when
> the
> > > > temperature falls to a certain level iguanas become immobile." "Under
> > 50
> > > > degrees Fahrenheit, they become sluggish. Under 40 degrees, their
> blood
> > > > stops moving as much, [Kristen Sommers of the Florida Fish and
> Wildlife
> > > > Conservation Commission] said. They like to sit in trees, and 'it’s
> > > become
> > > > cold enough that they fall out.'"
> > > >
> > > > Dan - is falling lizards a safety threat down in Tampa?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Iguana tail is supposed to be good eating - though I've never had the
opportunity to try it. Since they are an invasive species in FL - you'd
think people would be encouraged to collect and eat them.

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Why ornamental figs?  Why not grow a real one?  If you don't like figs ship
> them north.
>
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > It got down to freezing the last two nights.  Might make it up to the low
> > 50s today, but it’s bright and sunny (thank goodness!)
> >
> > Iguanas are more of a south Florida thing.  We do have lizards in our
> > trees and bushes, however, but I haven’t seen any fall out.  Kitty will
> > alert me if that happens, as she likes to patrol the front windows to
> watch
> > the ornamental fig tree this time of year.  It’s a (literal) beehive of
> > activity with bees, birds and chicken of the trees in it as it goes from
> > flowering to producing fruit.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 5, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > *-- Here's something you don't see every day:* The extreme cold in
> > Florida
> > > has led to frozen iguanas falling out of trees. The Post's Herman Wong
> > > explains
> > >  > YXN0cmFzZm9AYmxtLmdvdg%3D%3D/48/74/b30e639bcfaf933992e5f3db85511ad0>that
> > > "green iguanas, like all reptiles, are coldblooded animals, so when the
> > > temperature falls to a certain level iguanas become immobile." "Under
> 50
> > > degrees Fahrenheit, they become sluggish. Under 40 degrees, their blood
> > > stops moving as much, [Kristen Sommers of the Florida Fish and Wildlife
> > > Conservation Commission] said. They like to sit in trees, and 'it’s
> > become
> > > cold enough that they fall out.'"
> > >
> > > Dan - is falling lizards a safety threat down in Tampa?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s what we refer to them as.  I’ve never tried to pick one or eat them.  I 
look at it as a contribution to keeping the local flora and fauna alive.  
Especially the bees, as I used to keep bees when I lived in Indiana.  And I 
understand that picking the fruit won’t affect the bees….

-D

> On Jan 5, 2018, at 1:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Why ornamental figs?  Why not grow a real one?  If you don't like figs ship 
> them north. 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Why ornamental figs?  Why not grow a real one?  If you don't like figs ship
them north.

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It got down to freezing the last two nights.  Might make it up to the low
> 50s today, but it’s bright and sunny (thank goodness!)
>
> Iguanas are more of a south Florida thing.  We do have lizards in our
> trees and bushes, however, but I haven’t seen any fall out.  Kitty will
> alert me if that happens, as she likes to patrol the front windows to watch
> the ornamental fig tree this time of year.  It’s a (literal) beehive of
> activity with bees, birds and chicken of the trees in it as it goes from
> flowering to producing fruit.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 5, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > *-- Here's something you don't see every day:* The extreme cold in
> Florida
> > has led to frozen iguanas falling out of trees. The Post's Herman Wong
> > explains
> >  YXN0cmFzZm9AYmxtLmdvdg%3D%3D/48/74/b30e639bcfaf933992e5f3db85511ad0>that
> > "green iguanas, like all reptiles, are coldblooded animals, so when the
> > temperature falls to a certain level iguanas become immobile." "Under 50
> > degrees Fahrenheit, they become sluggish. Under 40 degrees, their blood
> > stops moving as much, [Kristen Sommers of the Florida Fish and Wildlife
> > Conservation Commission] said. They like to sit in trees, and 'it’s
> become
> > cold enough that they fall out.'"
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It got down to freezing the last two nights.  Might make it up to the low 50s 
today, but it’s bright and sunny (thank goodness!)

Iguanas are more of a south Florida thing.  We do have lizards in our trees and 
bushes, however, but I haven’t seen any fall out.  Kitty will alert me if that 
happens, as she likes to patrol the front windows to watch the ornamental fig 
tree this time of year.  It’s a (literal) beehive of activity with bees, birds 
and chicken of the trees in it as it goes from flowering to producing fruit.

-D


> On Jan 5, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> *-- Here's something you don't see every day:* The extreme cold in Florida
> has led to frozen iguanas falling out of trees. The Post's Herman Wong
> explains
> that
> "green iguanas, like all reptiles, are coldblooded animals, so when the
> temperature falls to a certain level iguanas become immobile." "Under 50
> degrees Fahrenheit, they become sluggish. Under 40 degrees, their blood
> stops moving as much, [Kristen Sommers of the Florida Fish and Wildlife
> Conservation Commission] said. They like to sit in trees, and 'it’s become
> cold enough that they fall out.'"
> 
> Dan - is falling lizards a safety threat down in Tampa?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Falling Frozen Florida lizards!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

tree chicken

--FT


On 1/5/18 11:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

*-- Here's something you don't see every day:* The extreme cold in Florida
has led to frozen iguanas falling out of trees. The Post's Herman Wong
explains
that
"green iguanas, like all reptiles, are coldblooded animals, so when the
temperature falls to a certain level iguanas become immobile." "Under 50
degrees Fahrenheit, they become sluggish. Under 40 degrees, their blood
stops moving as much, [Kristen Sommers of the Florida Fish and Wildlife
Conservation Commission] said. They like to sit in trees, and 'it’s become
cold enough that they fall out.'"

Dan - is falling lizards a safety threat down in Tampa?
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