Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
He may be in Canadia. Too bad you couldn't pay in $CDN. It would have been a lot cheaper at the time Dan Sent from my iPad > On May 28, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Rich Thomas > wrote: > > Sounds like that guy needs to be put in charge of the VA hospital system. > > --R > > >> On 5/28/14 1:29 PM, WILTON wrote: >> Yep, 'nother Sondy Tale already. >> >> CHEAPSKATE DIPLOMAT >> By Wilton Strickland >> >> After being on leave for two weeks and while returning to Sondy aboard a >> USAF C-141 from McGuire AFB, NJ, in June, '78, we stopped and remained >> overnight at Canadian Forces Base Goose Bay, Labrador. The next morning, >> when paying for breakfast at a base dining facility, I was a bit shocked by >> the high fee requested, including a "surcharge" of nearly $5 for an officer >> on "leave, temporary duty or travel time." I quickly reminded the clerk >> that I was officially 'on regular duty.' "Leave ceases the instant we check >> in at the McGuire AFB, NJ, Passenger Terminal, and our status officially >> reverts to 'present for duty.' I know that you are doing your duty as >> you've been instructed, and I'm not questioning your performance at all, but >> may I please speak to your supervisor, who may not understand that our >> travel time between McGuire and Sondrestrom is not counted as temporary >> duty, travel or leave time - it's counted as regular duty time." The clerk >> called his commander, a captain, wh o said, "That's the way we've done it for years for American troops when they come through here." I responded, "Well, I don't know how travel to other bases is counted with respect to TDY, leave, etc., but at Sodrestrom and Thule we're considered 'on duty' the instant we check in at McGuire. This may be because of the lack of other transportation to those points - we're dependent on the Air Force to get us there. I'll be glad to discuss it with your base commander if you want." He replied, "It won't be necessary to talk to the base commander. I'll look into it and talk to him about it. 'Sounds like we may need a change in policy, and I'll get it resolved." I responded, "Your policy is likely valid. The point of concern is the status of military personnel between McGuire and the Greenland bases." He proceeded, "You'll be charged at the "regular duty" rate. Is there anybody else with you to whom this applies?" I responded, "A female captain en route to Thule was in line in front of me and has already paid." He replied, "We'll give her a refund. Put the clerk back on the phone, and we'll resolve it. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. As far as I know, you're the only one who has ever mentioned it." I thanked him for his help and the outstanding hospitality shown us by everyone at the base and proceeded to enjoy a fine Canadian breakfast at a significantly more-reasonable fee. >> >> Wilton >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those >> individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has >> no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has > no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
WILTON wrote: Yep, 'nother Sondy Tale already. CHEAPSKATE DIPLOMAT By Wilton Strickland A $5 surcharge on top of whatever else they charged for breakfast, in 1978 dollars, would get my attention too. Back then a teenager could insure a motorcycle for a full year for $14. $5 would have filled the motorcycle's gas tank 3 times. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
Sounds like that guy needs to be put in charge of the VA hospital system. --R On 5/28/14 1:29 PM, WILTON wrote: Yep, 'nother Sondy Tale already. CHEAPSKATE DIPLOMAT By Wilton Strickland After being on leave for two weeks and while returning to Sondy aboard a USAF C-141 from McGuire AFB, NJ, in June, '78, we stopped and remained overnight at Canadian Forces Base Goose Bay, Labrador. The next morning, when paying for breakfast at a base dining facility, I was a bit shocked by the high fee requested, including a "surcharge" of nearly $5 for an officer on "leave, temporary duty or travel time." I quickly reminded the clerk that I was officially 'on regular duty.' "Leave ceases the instant we check in at the McGuire AFB, NJ, Passenger Terminal, and our status officially reverts to 'present for duty.' I know that you are doing your duty as you've been instructed, and I'm not questioning your performance at all, but may I please speak to your supervisor, who may not understand that our travel time between McGuire and Sondrestrom is not counted as temporary duty, travel or leave time - it's counted as regular duty time." The clerk called his commander, a captain, who said, "That's the way we've done it for years for American troops when they come through here." I responded, "Well, I don't know how travel to other bases is counted with respect to TDY, leave, etc., but at Sodrestrom and Thule we're considered 'on duty' the instant we check in at McGuire. This may be because of the lack of other transportation to those points - we're dependent on the Air Force to get us there. I'll be glad to discuss it with your base commander if you want." He replied, "It won't be necessary to talk to the base commander. I'll look into it and talk to him about it. 'Sounds like we may need a change in policy, and I'll get it resolved." I responded, "Your policy is likely valid. The point of concern is the status of military personnel between McGuire and the Greenland bases." He proceeded, "You'll be charged at the "regular duty" rate. Is there anybody else with you to whom this applies?" I responded, "A female captain en route to Thule was in line in front of me and has already paid." He replied, "We'll give her a refund. Put the clerk back on the phone, and we'll resolve it. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. As far as I know, you're the only one who has ever mentioned it." I thanked him for his help and the outstanding hospitality shown us by everyone at the base and proceeded to enjoy a fine Canadian breakfast at a significantly more-reasonable fee. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale - Danish Vignettes
A fine story, Wilton. I enjoyed it. Gerry On 5/19/2014 2:00 PM, WILTON wrote: Yep, another silly Sondy Tale already. DANISH VIGNETTES By Wilton Strickland In early December of '78, I flew from Sondrestrom Air Base, Greenland, to Copenhagen on a Scandinavian Airlines System (SAS) DC-8. As I boarded the aircraft, the SAS VP for operations greeted me immediately inside the aircraft and invited me to sit with him in the first class section. I had met him the day before when he came to me with a request to allow SAS fully-loaded DC-10's with a gross weight of 600 klbs to operate at Sondy. After checking runway and taxiway load capacities and weight distribution on DC-10 landing gear, I had to restrict their gross weight for Sondy operations to 450 klbs until they could negotiate with the US government at a much higher diplomatic level than mine to thicken existing pavement by 3 inches. A runway repaving project scheduled for summer of '79 would increase thickness by 1½ to 2 inches (don't remember exactly). I left the Sondy assignment in February, '79 and don't know the final disposition of the paving project, but several months later, while I was preparing for a B-52 training mission in base operations at Seymour Johnson AFB, NC, I saw a NOTAM (official Notice to Airmen, published by the FAA) for Sondrestrom listing the weight restrictions I had imposed. I learned later that SAS was, indeed, operating DC-10's at Sondy; at what weights I don't know. The next day, during a break in a meeting at the American Embassy Annex in downtown Copenhagen to discuss the operations and maintenance contract a Sondy, I stood in a fifth floor window and asked my host, a USAF colonel, "How old are these two and three-story buildings with the red tile roofs down below us?" He responded, "Oh, buildings in these two or three blocks close around us right here have been rebuilt since a fire in the eighteenth century. The other blocks you see farther out are from the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries." An interesting reminder of what a really "new" world we Americans have. A few days later, on a cold and rainy Saturday, my host at the Embassy drove us to tour Kronborg Castle/Fortress, immortalized as Elsinore Castle in Shakespeare's "Hamlet," on the far northeast corner of the Island of Zealand near the city of Helsingør and across the 2½-mile-wide Øresund Strait from Sweden. A small sign immediately inside the reception center clearly stated, "10 AM TOURS ARE CONDUCTED IN ENGLISH ONLY." Three German tourists (two men and a woman) were already having a heated discussion amongst themselves off to the side - the woman insisting that she wanted to go on THIS tour and that it should be in German. The men were trying to tell her that it's in English ONLY. First thing the tour guide said as she gathered us to follow her was, "Please be advised that this tour is conducted in English only." The three Germans came along anyway. Immediately at the first stop, the German lady tried to engage the guide in German; guide listened patiently and replied in English and German, "Madame, I am terribly sorry, but clear notice was made before the tour started that this tour is in English only. It is not fair to the rest of the group to change it now, and I don't have time to do it in both languages." As we proceeded with the tour, the German lady continued to harass the guide for not doing the tour in German for her. Finally, after a couple of more exchanges, the guide said to the lady, "Ma'am, I'm terribly sorry, but you give me no choice. I must ask you to leave." The lady screamed in German, "No! I paid for the tour, and you should do it in German!" (Of course, I did not understand all of it, but that's close enough.) With a wave of the guide's hand, a burley "bouncer" appeared and escorted the three Germans back to the entrance. We proceeded with the rest of the tour in peace. In spite of the distraction, I do remember much of the huge and ornate castle's architecture and some of it's fifteenth and sixteenth century furnishings, but it's a pity that what could have been a valuable lesson in history and literature is remembered most for the German lady's childish rant. On the other hand, considering the craziness of some of "Hamlet's" characters, maybe the lady's rants were appropriate for the setting, anyway. I just did not realize it at the time. Maybe she was part of the tour, and I didn't know it. The following day, still cold and rainy, a Danish Air Force officer friend took me on a tour of several other interesting sites. One was the Danish National Museum at Roskilde, the very old, historical capital of Denmark and a major Viking base. There we saw several well-preserved Viking long boats, varying in sizes from 10 to fifty feet, from the tenth and eleventh centuries that were recovered from a bog during construction and expansion of the ne
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale - Danish Vignettes
I think all of were glad to get away from her that morning. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale - Danish Vignettes WILTON wrote: The lady screamed in German, "No! I paid for the tour, and you should do it in German!" I recently read something from a criminal defense attorney that said a jury will agree to whatever the most stubborn woman on the jury wants in order to be able to go home (and probably to get away from her). Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale - Danish Vignettes
WILTON wrote: The lady screamed in German, "No! I paid for the tour, and you should do it in German!" I recently read something from a criminal defense attorney that said a jury will agree to whatever the most stubborn woman on the jury wants in order to be able to go home (and probably to get away from her). Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
On Sun, 4 May 2014 20:38:43 -0400 "WILTON" wrote: > The test required us to walk and/or run two miles (I think it was 2 > miles, may have been 1½ miles) in eleven minutes or less depending on > our age. It was 1½. When I did it last at McClellan in Sacramento, I lost track of how many laps I did and ended up doing an extra lap. > I never said a word - I "shut 'im up" the best way I knew and saved my > honor and reputation in the process. ATTABOY, WILTON!!! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
Yes, of course, I passed. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Hendrik and Fay" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale How very unAmerican of you Wilton, this is not what we see in the movies, usually the winner makes references to female dogs and owning the non winner. However between the desire to be better than someone else and women nagging, we managed to drag ourselves out of dark and cold caves into warm and lit above ground caves. "Thurg has fire in cave, why we not have fire? You want fun later, you make fire in cave." Anyway the big question is, did you pass Wilton? Hendrik who has a lovely partner who never nags (she made me write that) On 05/05/14 10:08, WILTON wrote: Yep, another silly Sondy Tale: THE RUN TEST By Wilton Strickland The day after... Trimmed as per orders ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
How very unAmerican of you Wilton, this is not what we see in the movies, usually the winner makes references to female dogs and owning the non winner. However between the desire to be better than someone else and women nagging, we managed to drag ourselves out of dark and cold caves into warm and lit above ground caves. "Thurg has fire in cave, why we not have fire? You want fun later, you make fire in cave." Anyway the big question is, did you pass Wilton? Hendrik who has a lovely partner who never nags (she made me write that) On 05/05/14 10:08, WILTON wrote: Yep, another silly Sondy Tale: THE RUN TEST By Wilton Strickland The day after... Trimmed as per orders ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
I might have done that:) Sent from my iPhone On Nov 24, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > First off who puts a burger in the pocket of their coat? > > Its dehydrated. He lives in Utah, a low humidity state (I almost wrote "dry", > HA!) and put the burger, wrapped in its paper bag in his coat further helping > it dehydrate. So of course it didn't decompose... > > I'm not pro McDs I'm anti-stupid. The above proves > > > > Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 07:36:52 -0500 > From: Dan Penoff > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale > Message-ID: <368c0d18-80c9-4856-996e-0ec643b60...@penoff.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Nope. I'm talking about this: > > http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/04/25/mcdonalds-burger-looks-the-same-14-years-later/ > > > On Nov 23, 2013, at 6:49 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > >> I think you mean french fries. Its also been pretty well established thst >> its not really fair to pick on McD's frys because basically no fries ever >> mold. The combination of cooking technique and salt preserves them well. >> >> Curt > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale taqysasy
> This was the guy who left a smoldering roach in his Corvair one morning and about 9:30 it finally ignited all the others in the ashtray and burned the car up. 2-3 of the girls in my grade were given old Mustang IIs (Pinto-Stangs I called them). One night, some girls were out partying, and ran out of weed. They used a lighter for a flashlight and searched the Mustang for joints, roaches, anything. They managed to ignite the papers in the glove compartment in the course of the search. Burned the car to a crisp. The parents bought her a NEW car for an early graduation present to replace it. I figured they felt guilty over endangering their precious snowflake by buying her a dangerous used car that went up in flames all by itself. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
That "special sauce" is probably about 90 HFCS which is what is addictive along with the fat and salt and cholesterol (4 of the basic food groups!). I cannot even eat that stuff any more, I would gag on it. In high school we had a buddy who worked at the McD's downtown, which was not A Good Place to be most of the time after dark. But after a ball game or something we would go cruising ferbergers and stop in there, the 3 or 4 of us would order one hamburger and one fry, he would go in back and gather up a grocery sack (seriously, they had bags the size of grocery bags) full of various things they had, burgers, fries, a few drinks, some pies, whatever, then ring us up for whatever the burger and fries were, probably like $1.37 at the time. We would pig out on that junk, one of the guys had 9 brothers and sisters so he would take home the rest and they all got some too. This was the guy who left a smoldering roach in his Corvair one morning and about 9:30 it finally ignited all the others in the ashtray and burned the car up. We were all together in a class, the windows looked out over the street where he had parked it, so we got to watch the fire brigade douse the car. He was still a little buzzed so was "like wow man." The Powers That Be knew it was his car so came and rounded him up and did whatever to get it organized and hauled off. He had that car rigged with a crate or something in the front trunk where he could put 3 likka bottles, with surgical rubber tubes running up through the dash, so while driving you could grab a pull off whatever was your favorite beverage. I forget what he got after that car, but he fixed it up too, and was careful with his roaches. The guy was really smart, and turned out well, I forget what he is doing now, something respectable. --R On 11/24/13 4:36 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: The onions are in fact "recon" which is to say reconstituted from dried. Its fairly hilarious when somebody does it with warm water since the onions turn pink. Doesn't hurt them any they're just pink. Interestingly the quarter pounder onions are "real" which is to say fresh. Of course everything I know about the inner workings of McD's is from the 1 month I worked there in 1995. The burger patties are salted just after they finish cooking, I can see how that would dramatically slow the rate of mold or rot or whatever. The rolls would molder normally though as would the lettuce, mold grows on cheese too. The hamburgers however are just a roll, patty (same patty as a Big Mac), mustard, ketchup and 2 pr 3 pickles I forget exactly. When I worked there I used to amuse myself by seeing how many pickles I could get on to a hamburger without somebody catching it. I once sent one out that had more pickles than meat. It didn't get returned... -Curt Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 13:29:15 -0400 From: Mitch Haley To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale Message-ID: <5290e5eb.5000...@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed WILTON wrote: Doesn't a Big Mac have lettuce, tomato, pickle and all sorts of other stuff on it? Yep, you're right if you noticed I've never had a Big Mac, either - 'guess I've really missed out on a lot, but maybe I can "get along" somehow. Pauvre moi. How'd the 1970s jingle go? Best as I can remember it, no tomato. Pickles are, well, pickled in brine and vinegar. Cheese is already moldy. "Two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions, on a sesame seed bun" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
First off who puts a burger in the pocket of their coat? Its dehydrated. He lives in Utah, a low humidity state (I almost wrote "dry", HA!) and put the burger, wrapped in its paper bag in his coat further helping it dehydrate. So of course it didn't decompose... I'm not pro McDs I'm anti-stupid. The above proves Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 07:36:52 -0500 From: Dan Penoff To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale Message-ID: <368c0d18-80c9-4856-996e-0ec643b60...@penoff.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Nope. I'm talking about this: http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/04/25/mcdonalds-burger-looks-the-same-14-years-later/ On Nov 23, 2013, at 6:49 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > I think you mean french fries. Its also been pretty well established thst its > not really fair to pick on McD's frys because basically no fries ever mold. > The combination of cooking technique and salt preserves them well. > > Curt > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
The onions are in fact "recon" which is to say reconstituted from dried. Its fairly hilarious when somebody does it with warm water since the onions turn pink. Doesn't hurt them any they're just pink. Interestingly the quarter pounder onions are "real" which is to say fresh. Of course everything I know about the inner workings of McD's is from the 1 month I worked there in 1995. The burger patties are salted just after they finish cooking, I can see how that would dramatically slow the rate of mold or rot or whatever. The rolls would molder normally though as would the lettuce, mold grows on cheese too. The hamburgers however are just a roll, patty (same patty as a Big Mac), mustard, ketchup and 2 pr 3 pickles I forget exactly. When I worked there I used to amuse myself by seeing how many pickles I could get on to a hamburger without somebody catching it. I once sent one out that had more pickles than meat. It didn't get returned... -Curt Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 13:29:15 -0400 From: Mitch Haley To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale Message-ID: <5290e5eb.5000...@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed WILTON wrote: > Doesn't a Big Mac have lettuce, tomato, pickle and all sorts of other > stuff on it? Yep, you're right if you noticed I've never had a Big Mac, > either - 'guess I've really missed out on a lot, but maybe I can "get > along" somehow. Pauvre moi. How'd the 1970s jingle go? Best as I can remember it, no tomato. Pickles are, well, pickled in brine and vinegar. Cheese is already moldy. "Two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions, on a sesame seed bun" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
Yep, I'm feeling really deprived. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale WILTON wrote: Doesn't a Big Mac have lettuce, tomato, pickle and all sorts of other stuff on it? Yep, you're right if you noticed I've never had a Big Mac, either - 'guess I've really missed out on a lot, but maybe I can "get along" somehow. Pauvre moi. How'd the 1970s jingle go? Best as I can remember it, no tomato. Pickles are, well, pickled in brine and vinegar. Cheese is already moldy. "Two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions, on a sesame seed bun" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
WILTON wrote: Doesn't a Big Mac have lettuce, tomato, pickle and all sorts of other stuff on it? Yep, you're right if you noticed I've never had a Big Mac, either - 'guess I've really missed out on a lot, but maybe I can "get along" somehow. Pauvre moi. How'd the 1970s jingle go? Best as I can remember it, no tomato. Pickles are, well, pickled in brine and vinegar. Cheese is already moldy. "Two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions, on a sesame seed bun" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
Doesn't a Big Mac have lettuce, tomato, pickle and all sorts of other stuff on it? Yep, you're right if you noticed I've never had a Big Mac, either - 'guess I've really missed out on a lot, but maybe I can "get along" somehow. Pauvre moi. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale Nope. I'm talking about this: http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/04/25/mcdonalds-burger-looks-the-same-14-years-later/ On Nov 23, 2013, at 6:49 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: I think you mean french fries. Its also been pretty well established thst its not really fair to pick on McD's frys because basically no fries ever mold. The combination of cooking technique and salt preserves them well. Curt Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 06:23:55 -0500 From: Dan Penoff To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale Message-ID: <838d9b00-e5aa-4025-8121-babf99616...@penoff.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii He didn't need refrigeration to preserve that Big Mac. I believe it has been shown that they are pretty well self preserving. Dan who reached his lifetime consumption of McDonald's years ago Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Nope. I'm talking about this: http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/04/25/mcdonalds-burger-looks-the-same-14-years-later/ On Nov 23, 2013, at 6:49 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > I think you mean french fries. Its also been pretty well established thst its > not really fair to pick on McD's frys because basically no fries ever mold. > The combination of cooking technique and salt preserves them well. > > Curt > > Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 06:23:55 -0500 > From: Dan Penoff > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale > Message-ID: <838d9b00-e5aa-4025-8121-babf99616...@penoff.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > He didn't need refrigeration to preserve that Big Mac. I believe it has been > shown that they are pretty well self preserving. > > Dan who reached his lifetime consumption of McDonald's years ago > > Sent from my iPad > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think you mean french fries. Its also been pretty well established thst its not really fair to pick on McD's frys because basically no fries ever mold. The combination of cooking technique and salt preserves them well. Curt Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 06:23:55 -0500 From: Dan Penoff To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale Message-ID: <838d9b00-e5aa-4025-8121-babf99616...@penoff.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii He didn't need refrigeration to preserve that Big Mac. I believe it has been shown that they are pretty well self preserving. Dan who reached his lifetime consumption of McDonald's years ago Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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He didn't need refrigeration to preserve that Big Mac. I believe it has been shown that they are pretty well self preserving. Dan who reached his lifetime consumption of McDonald's years ago Sent from my iPad > On Nov 22, 2013, at 11:32 PM, "WILTON" wrote: > > Yes, I stayed well enough supplied with Pepsi in Greenland; the supply of > such was a bit lacking for only a week or so before the first ship was > unloaded in late sprng. The beer drinkers may not have faired quite as well. > > A young lieutenant who lived down the hall from me came to my door one night > after he had been home on leave and asked me to accompany him to his room - > he wanted to show me a Big Mac he had brought back with him and told me he > was gonna keep it frozen in his refrigerator; 'said he would not go without a > Big Mac again, "I can at least open the refrigerator door occasionally and > look at it." I endured no such "suffering." > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 11:08 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale > > >>> On Nov 22, 2013 4:01 PM, "WILTON" wrote: >>> >>> Well, here's one, anyway. >>> >>> JUST DON'T MESS WITH THE PEPSIS >>> By Wilton Strickland >> >> Another great one, Wilton, thanks. >> >> So did you manage to stay well-supplied with Pepsi throughout your tours in >> Greenland? I would think you'd want something warmer! My dad always says >> that he acquired the habit of drinking coffee all day long on guard duty in >> Korea where it was the only way to stay warm. >> >> Alex >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes, I stayed well enough supplied with Pepsi in Greenland; the supply of such was a bit lacking for only a week or so before the first ship was unloaded in late sprng. The beer drinkers may not have faired quite as well. A young lieutenant who lived down the hall from me came to my door one night after he had been home on leave and asked me to accompany him to his room - he wanted to show me a Big Mac he had brought back with him and told me he was gonna keep it frozen in his refrigerator; 'said he would not go without a Big Mac again, "I can at least open the refrigerator door occasionally and look at it." I endured no such "suffering." Wilton - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale On Nov 22, 2013 4:01 PM, "WILTON" wrote: Well, here's one, anyway. JUST DON'T MESS WITH THE PEPSIS By Wilton Strickland Another great one, Wilton, thanks. So did you manage to stay well-supplied with Pepsi throughout your tours in Greenland? I would think you'd want something warmer! My dad always says that he acquired the habit of drinking coffee all day long on guard duty in Korea where it was the only way to stay warm. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Nov 22, 2013 4:01 PM, "WILTON" wrote: > > Well, here's one, anyway. > > JUST DON'T MESS WITH THE PEPSIS > By Wilton Strickland > Another great one, Wilton, thanks. So did you manage to stay well-supplied with Pepsi throughout your tours in Greenland? I would think you'd want something warmer! My dad always says that he acquired the habit of drinking coffee all day long on guard duty in Korea where it was the only way to stay warm. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wilton wrote: > By the way, I MEANT "palate," not "pallet." ;<) I read right thru it enjoying the story. Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thanks. By the way, I MEANT "palate," not "pallet." ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "OK Don" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale Thanks again for the story --- On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 6:00 PM, WILTON wrote: Well, here's one, anyway. JUST DON'T MESS WITH THE PEPSIS By Wilton Strickland By late spring of 1978, while I was Director of Engineering at Sondrestrom Air Base (now Kangerlussuaq), Greenland, some goods that were normally shipped by ocean-going vessel were beginning to be in short supply. A hot topic around base was beginning to be the availability (or lack thereof) of beer. This, of course, had no direct effect on me - I had already for many years been somewhat of a "Pepsi nut." I guess my enjoyment of the sweetness of a sip of Pepsi rather than the bitterness of coffee or beer betrays my unsophisticated pallet, but that's OK - I've never done something or liked something because "that's what everybody else" likes or is doing. I haven't had a cup of coffee in at least 35 years and have never had a beer or smoked a cigarette. A few days before the first supply ship of the season arrived, I went to the Base Exchange (BX) to get a six-pack of Pepsis and was told that there were NONE. At about this same time, the supervisor of the Danish stevedores who would be unloading the supply ships soon to arrive from the States asked me to inspect the quarters they would be using. In my additional capacity as Base Fire Marshall, I was especially concerned about fire safety in addition to their general livability. The quarters were in one-story wood frame buildings built in 1941 and '42 by US Army and civilian crews under the leadership of Bernt Balchan, who first proposed and established a base at the site, known then as Bluie West 8, to serve as a refueling base for American aircraft transferring to Europe. (Check "Bernt Balchan - Polar Aviator," by Carrol V. Glines.) I was at first appalled that such quarters were still in use, but these feelings were soon tempered by memories of farm houses in which I had lived as a child in eastern North Carolina - no inside plumbing, kerosene lamps, wood-fired heater in living room, wood-fired stove in the kitchen, fireplace in a bedroom and snow blowing in through cracks in the walls of my brothers' bedroom during winter of 1939/40.) Though far below modern living standards of 1978, the buildings were structurally sound, with good roofs, doors, windows, indoor plumbing, hot showers, and oil-fired heaters to ward off occasional chill of nights in the arctic summer. After finding that the buildings had appropriate smoke/fire alarms, exits and fire extinguishes, I approved them for temporary occupancy. A few days later, while I was also acting Base Commander for 2 or 3 days during the absence of our regular Base Commander, the man in charge of the re-supply operation told me that a few cases of beer were missing from one of the shipping containers unloaded from the first ship and asked me what he should do about it. I remarked, "It seems that the ship captain has a theft problem on his ship. I don't have any jurisdiction whatever on that ship." I jokingly continued, "Is it only beer that's missing? What about the Pepsis? Just make sure nobody messes with the Pepsis. Just make sure all the Pepsis are unloaded safely." A couple of days later, I returned to my office after lunch to find a six-pack of Pepsis sitting on my desk. When I asked the man who had told me about the beer theft, he denied any knowledge of the Pepsis on my desk. Unable to find the perpetrator of the attempted "bribe," I proceeded to enjoy consuming them; others on base were also happy to have their beer supply replenished, and tranquility reined supreme. By the way, perusal of Kangerlussuaq present-day web sites reveals ads touting the great adventure, advantages and fun of paying good money to spend vacation time in these same quarters, now called "Old Camp." Bernt Balchan and his crews would be really proud of their work's longevity and durability -- just think, I briefly considered having them razed as unsuitable and unsafe for habitation. Wilton - Original Message - From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tar Watch out! I may hafta throw in a Sondy Tale, silly or not. Wilt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a lit
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Thanks again for the story --- On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 6:00 PM, WILTON wrote: > Well, here's one, anyway. > > JUST DON'T MESS WITH THE PEPSIS > By Wilton Strickland > > By late spring of 1978, while I was Director of Engineering at Sondrestrom > Air Base (now Kangerlussuaq), Greenland, some goods that were normally > shipped by ocean-going vessel were beginning to be in short supply. A hot > topic around base was beginning to be the availability (or lack thereof) of > beer. This, of course, had no direct effect on me - I had already for many > years been somewhat of a "Pepsi nut." I guess my enjoyment of the > sweetness of a sip of Pepsi rather than the bitterness of coffee or beer > betrays my unsophisticated pallet, but that's OK - I've never done > something or liked something because "that's what everybody else" likes or > is doing. I haven't had a cup of coffee in at least 35 years and have > never had a beer or smoked a cigarette. A few days before the first supply > ship of the season arrived, I went to the Base Exchange (BX) to get a > six-pack of Pepsis and was told that there were NONE. > > At about this same time, the supervisor of the Danish stevedores who would > be unloading the supply ships soon to arrive from the States asked me to > inspect the quarters they would be using. In my additional capacity as > Base Fire Marshall, I was especially concerned about fire safety in > addition to their general livability. The quarters were in one-story wood > frame buildings built in 1941 and '42 by US Army and civilian crews under > the leadership of Bernt Balchan, who first proposed and established a base > at the site, known then as Bluie West 8, to serve as a refueling base for > American aircraft transferring to Europe. (Check "Bernt Balchan - Polar > Aviator," by Carrol V. Glines.) > > I was at first appalled that such quarters were still in use, but these > feelings were soon tempered by memories of farm houses in which I had lived > as a child in eastern North Carolina - no inside plumbing, kerosene lamps, > wood-fired heater in living room, wood-fired stove in the kitchen, > fireplace in a bedroom and snow blowing in through cracks in the walls of > my brothers' bedroom during winter of 1939/40.) Though far below modern > living standards of 1978, the buildings were structurally sound, with good > roofs, doors, windows, indoor plumbing, hot showers, and oil-fired heaters > to ward off occasional chill of nights in the arctic summer. After finding > that the buildings had appropriate smoke/fire alarms, exits and fire > extinguishes, I approved them for temporary occupancy. > > A few days later, while I was also acting Base Commander for 2 or 3 days > during the absence of our regular Base Commander, the man in charge of the > re-supply operation told me that a few cases of beer were missing from one > of the shipping containers unloaded from the first ship and asked me what > he should do about it. I remarked, "It seems that the ship captain has a > theft problem on his ship. I don't have any jurisdiction whatever on that > ship." I jokingly continued, "Is it only beer that's missing? What about > the Pepsis? Just make sure nobody messes with the Pepsis. Just make sure > all the Pepsis are unloaded safely." A couple of days later, I returned to > my office after lunch to find a six-pack of Pepsis sitting on my desk. > When I asked the man who had told me about the beer theft, he denied any > knowledge of the Pepsis on my desk. Unable to find the perpetrator of the > attempted "bribe," I proceeded to enjoy consuming them; others on base were > also happy to have their beer supply replenished, and tranquility reined > supreme. > > By the way, perusal of Kangerlussuaq present-day web sites reveals ads > touting the great adventure, advantages and fun of paying good money to > spend vacation time in these same quarters, now called "Old Camp." Bernt > Balchan and his crews would be really proud of their work's longevity and > durability -- just think, I briefly considered having them razed as > unsuitable and unsafe for habitation. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "WILTON" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 2:56 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tar > > > Watch out! I may hafta throw in a Sondy Tale, silly or not. > > Wilt > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- OK Don "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775 "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes." - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! __
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Thanks for the straight "skinny" (as my Navy brothers used to say) on the Myrick surname. Didn't mean to imply that there are not a lot of Myricks somewhere - just that I haven't known 'em. Maybe somewhat like Oregonians - must be a lot of 'em somewhere - most likely in Oregon, I suspect, but I haven't known 'em. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Gerry Archer" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale Myrick is a not uncommon name; many here in Florida. It has an interesting history: "This ancient surname recorded in the spellings of Meyric, Meyrick, Merrick and the American Myrick, is of Anglo-Welsh origins. The first of which is Welsh, and derives from Meyric, the Prince of Cardigan, and head of the North Wales tribe based upon Bodorgan, in the Isle of Anglesey. It is claimed that the Welsh origin is of Norman descent, being a form of "Maurice", and dating back to King John of England in 1199. The second origin is Norman, and may be the same source as the first. It derives from the Old French personal name "Maurice" introduced into England after the Conquest of 1066. This name is composed of the Germanic elements "meri" or "mari", meaning "fame", and "ric", meaning "power". The third possible origin is Scottish, and as such a locational surname from the place called "Merrick" situated near Minigaff in Dumfries and Galloway. This placename is derived from the Gaelic word "meurach" meaning "a branch or fork of a road or river". Early examples of the surname recordings include Henrye Merriche in the Poll Tax rolls of Yorkshire in 1379, David Meyrick of Bodorgan, North wales in the year 1415 and Richard Merrick, who married Martha Tither in London in 1610. One of the earliest settlers in the New world was, John Merrick Esq., who in 1678 was recorded in the parish of St. Andrew's in the Isle of Barbados, as having 266 acres of land and six servants. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Meuric de Hope, which was dated 1272, in the charter rolls known as 'Testa de Neville', during the reign of King Edward 1st, known as 'The hammer of the Scots', 1272 - 1307. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling." http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Myrick#ixzz2kADAjUvK http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Myrick Gerry .. I think that family in my home town of Nashville, NC, is the only Myrick family (man, wife, adopted daughter) I've known. Wilton - Original Message - From: "OK Don" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale No real connection to your story (that I know of), but Myrick is not a common name in these parts, yet I live on Myrick Airport, here in OK (33OK). On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 6:43 PM, WILTON wrote: "What's her name?" "Anne Myrick," he answered. I exclaimed, "She's the pretty, sweet little 3 or 4-year-old daughter of the Stedman's Grocery Store manager in Nashville " -- OK Don "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775 "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes." - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6821 - Release Date: 11/08/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Myrick is a not uncommon name; many here in Florida. It has an interesting history: "This ancient surname recorded in the spellings of Meyric, Meyrick, Merrick and the American Myrick, is of Anglo-Welsh origins. The first of which is Welsh, and derives from Meyric, the Prince of Cardigan, and head of the North Wales tribe based upon Bodorgan, in the Isle of Anglesey. It is claimed that the Welsh origin is of Norman descent, being a form of "Maurice", and dating back to King John of England in 1199. The second origin is Norman, and may be the same source as the first. It derives from the Old French personal name "Maurice" introduced into England after the Conquest of 1066. This name is composed of the Germanic elements "meri" or "mari", meaning "fame", and "ric", meaning "power". The third possible origin is Scottish, and as such a locational surname from the place called "Merrick" situated near Minigaff in Dumfries and Galloway. This placename is derived from the Gaelic word "meurach" meaning "a branch or fork of a road or river". Early examples of the surname recordings include Henrye Merriche in the Poll Tax rolls of Yorkshire in 1379, David Meyrick of Bodorgan, North wales in the year 1415 and Richard Merrick, who married Martha Tither in London in 1610. One of the earliest settlers in the New world was, John Merrick Esq., who in 1678 was recorded in the parish of St. Andrew's in the Isle of Barbados, as having 266 acres of land and six servants. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Meuric de Hope, which was dated 1272, in the charter rolls known as 'Testa de Neville', during the reign of King Edward 1st, known as 'The hammer of the Scots', 1272 - 1307. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling." http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Myrick#ixzz2kADAjUvK http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Myrick Gerry .. I think that family in my home town of Nashville, NC, is the only Myrick family (man, wife, adopted daughter) I've known. Wilton - Original Message - From: "OK Don" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale No real connection to your story (that I know of), but Myrick is not a common name in these parts, yet I live on Myrick Airport, here in OK (33OK). On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 6:43 PM, WILTON wrote: "What's her name?" "Anne Myrick," he answered. I exclaimed, "She's the pretty, sweet little 3 or 4-year-old daughter of the Stedman's Grocery Store manager in Nashville " -- OK Don "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775 "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes." - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6821 - Release Date: 11/08/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think that family in my home town of Nashville, NC, is the only Myrick family (man, wife, adopted daughter) I've known. Wilton - Original Message - From: "OK Don" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale No real connection to your story (that I know of), but Myrick is not a common name in these parts, yet I live on Myrick Airport, here in OK (33OK). On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 6:43 PM, WILTON wrote: "What's her name?" "Anne Myrick," he answered. I exclaimed, "She's the pretty, sweet little 3 or 4-year-old daughter of the Stedman's Grocery Store manager in Nashville " -- OK Don "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775 "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes." - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No real connection to your story (that I know of), but Myrick is not a common name in these parts, yet I live on Myrick Airport, here in OK (33OK). On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 6:43 PM, WILTON wrote: "What's her name?" "Anne Myrick," he answered. I exclaimed, "She's the pretty, sweet little 3 or 4-year-old daughter of the Stedman's Grocery Store manager in Nashville " -- OK Don "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775 "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes." - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
Thnks. Wilt - Original Message - From: "Craig" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 11:07:02 -0500 "WILTON" wrote: Yep, another Sondy Tale and a little more. Great! I like your Sondy Tales! Wonder how many and how often we cross such interesting paths and never know it. Because of this, I'm more likely now to ask a new acquaintance, "Where are you from originally?" It's amazing how many "strangers" are not so really "strange," after all, especially for one who has lived in many different places. Yes, it is amazing. It's a good idea to ask, as you say. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 11:07:02 -0500 "WILTON" wrote: > Yep, another Sondy Tale and a little more. Great! I like your Sondy Tales! > Wonder how many and how often we cross such interesting paths and never > know it. Because of this, I'm more likely now to ask a new > acquaintance, "Where are you from originally?" It's amazing how many > "strangers" are not so really "strange," after all, especially for one > who has lived in many different places. Yes, it is amazing. It's a good idea to ask, as you say. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale - Swimming Pool
Yep, we discussed that, and they danced around it - we finally agreed that we'd cove the corners. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale - Swimming Pool A good question might be why they did not send you the right liner?? I have some experience with that sort of thing as I worked building swimming pools for 3 summers while I was in university. By then we had pretty much moved away from using sand and instead used what we called pool pad. It was a mixture of vermiculite and cement. Initially we used a lot of cement so it looked like concrete but that ultimately moved to a drier mixture. We would pack it in in the right shape and then drop the liner in quickly and fill with water to hold things in place. Quite a process as these pools had deep ends and some were kidney shaped and at least 40 feet long. If the liner dislodged material when we were shifting it into place, someone would have to go in under it and do a quick patch. Sometimes we would have underground water that would not stop seeping and would have to get the liner in very quickly to prevent a lot of water under the liner. Randy On 18/10/2013 11:03 AM, WILTON wrote: Yep, 'nother Sondy Tale already. THE SWIMMING POOL By Wilton Strickland At Sondrestrom Air Base, we were proud to have the only swimming pool (indoors and heated, of course) in Greenland. I don't remember the exact dimensions, but probably about 20 feet by 40 feet by 4 to 5 feet. Not long after I arrived, the Danish maintenance contractor chief engineer came to me on day with bad news about the pool's plastic liner - it was leaking and had been patched so many times that it was beyond repair. We called a manufacturer in the States and ordered one of the right dimensions and had it shipped to McGuire AFB, NJ, for delivery to us via Air Force C-141 cargo aircraft a few weeks later. The Danish workmen immediately set about removing the old liner and installing the new one. Installation of the new liner involved sucking air with a vacuum cleaner from between the outside of the liner and the pool's supporting walls as the liner was filled with water. The support structure corners between the bottom and side walls and at the ends of the pool were square (sharp, 90° angles), and the old liner fitted into them nicely, but as the new liner filled with water, it became obvious that the corners of the new liner would rupture before going into the corners. We had to stop the filling process, empty the liner of water and devise a way to get the liner into the corners or support the liner appropriately in these areas. A call to the manufacturer confirmed that the liner could not have - could not assume - square corners. We finally decided to fill in the square corners in the support structure with wet sand rounded into a contour (a cove) that the new liner could more easily assume. The bottom was already sand; we just extended the sand in a rounded contour up the side for several inches and in the end corners to relieve the excessive tension on the liner in these areas. Because water in the base system was at only 56°F, we also started heating it while filling the liner to help improve the liner's stretchability. We also positioned several more suction hoses around the outside of the liner to reduce air pockets as the liner filled with water. The second filling went very well, and we had no more problems with the pool while I was there. 'Never did use it myself, though. I noticed recently in the current Kangerlussuaq hotel and tourism ads, they enthusiastically promote the heated indoor pool. 'Glad they're still enjoying it. The liner has probably been replaced once or twice or more since we did it in '78, and it's likely that nobody there has any idea about the hassle we had with seemingly such a simple task that could have been catastrophic had we just blindly let the liner fill without proper attention to those corners. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale - Swimming Pool
A good question might be why they did not send you the right liner?? I have some experience with that sort of thing as I worked building swimming pools for 3 summers while I was in university. By then we had pretty much moved away from using sand and instead used what we called pool pad. It was a mixture of vermiculite and cement. Initially we used a lot of cement so it looked like concrete but that ultimately moved to a drier mixture. We would pack it in in the right shape and then drop the liner in quickly and fill with water to hold things in place. Quite a process as these pools had deep ends and some were kidney shaped and at least 40 feet long. If the liner dislodged material when we were shifting it into place, someone would have to go in under it and do a quick patch. Sometimes we would have underground water that would not stop seeping and would have to get the liner in very quickly to prevent a lot of water under the liner. Randy On 18/10/2013 11:03 AM, WILTON wrote: Yep, 'nother Sondy Tale already. THE SWIMMING POOL By Wilton Strickland At Sondrestrom Air Base, we were proud to have the only swimming pool (indoors and heated, of course) in Greenland. I don't remember the exact dimensions, but probably about 20 feet by 40 feet by 4 to 5 feet. Not long after I arrived, the Danish maintenance contractor chief engineer came to me on day with bad news about the pool's plastic liner - it was leaking and had been patched so many times that it was beyond repair. We called a manufacturer in the States and ordered one of the right dimensions and had it shipped to McGuire AFB, NJ, for delivery to us via Air Force C-141 cargo aircraft a few weeks later. The Danish workmen immediately set about removing the old liner and installing the new one. Installation of the new liner involved sucking air with a vacuum cleaner from between the outside of the liner and the pool's supporting walls as the liner was filled with water. The support structure corners between the bottom and side walls and at the ends of the pool were square (sharp, 90° angles), and the old liner fitted into them nicely, but as the new liner filled with water, it became obvious that the corners of the new liner would rupture before going into the corners. We had to stop the filling process, empty the liner of water and devise a way to get the liner into the corners or support the liner appropriately in these areas. A call to the manufacturer confirmed that the liner could not have - could not assume - square corners. We finally decided to fill in the square corners in the support structure with wet sand rounded into a contour (a cove) that the new liner could more easily assume. The bottom was already sand; we just extended the sand in a rounded contour up the side for several inches and in the end corners to relieve the excessive tension on the liner in these areas. Because water in the base system was at only 56°F, we also started heating it while filling the liner to help improve the liner's stretchability. We also positioned several more suction hoses around the outside of the liner to reduce air pockets as the liner filled with water. The second filling went very well, and we had no more problems with the pool while I was there. 'Never did use it myself, though. I noticed recently in the current Kangerlussuaq hotel and tourism ads, they enthusiastically promote the heated indoor pool. 'Glad they're still enjoying it. The liner has probably been replaced once or twice or more since we did it in '78, and it's likely that nobody there has any idea about the hassle we had with seemingly such a simple task that could have been catastrophic had we just blindly let the liner fill without proper attention to those corners. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
Dieselhead wrote: PreXACKLY! When I lived in paradise, I heard many military and military family members whining about "there's nothing to do." They were insane. Somebody complained about being in Pearl Harbor, and the Japanese were not dropping bombs on him? Either they're insane, or they thought naval bases should come with more brothels. Mitch. No imagination, no sense of adventure, no interest in learning about the rest of the world (Sit on Waikiki and the world comes to you) or they are insane.To me, the first three choices amount to being dead, so the choice is dead or insane. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
Dieselhead wrote: PreXACKLY! When I lived in paradise, I heard many military and military family members whining about "there's nothing to do." They were insane. Somebody complained about being in Pearl Harbor, and the Japanese were not dropping bombs on him? Either they're insane, or they thought naval bases should come with more brothels. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
WILTON wrote: Just another little thing that makes living in Greenland enjoyable instead of the boring misery that it could be otherwise." - I was stationed in a number places during my 25 years in the USAF. One of the things I noticed was that a person's attitude had a lot more to do with their happiness than their actual surroundings. A lot of folks (especially junior enlisted) spent a lot of time complaining that their current assignment lacked specific things they enjoyed "at home". Others took advantage of whatever was available and they had a good time. Wilton's comments on a place many would consider "beyond the end of the world" just reinforce this thought. Scott PreXACKLY! When I lived in paradise, I heard many military and military family members whining about "there's nothing to do." They were insane. there are so many things to do, you can't do it all in a lifetime. hiking, biking, swimming, scuba, snorkel, snuba, learning the history and culture, visiting historic sites, free concerts, paid concerts, making music, making musical instruments are a few things that come to mind. You might learn the language, learn hula, make hula costumes, learn jungle or desert survival, camp, surf fish, make fishing tackle, make nets, repair nets the list is endless of things to do in Hawaii. Yet, many folks were unhappy cuz it twern't like home. Oh, and it was always entertaining to ride da bus, and to go Waikiki and watch the people. groups of Japanese tourists were always entertaining to watch. They always do as the leader says, buy expensive junk and take lots of pictures. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
'Zackly. 'Course, as I've said before, my job kept me extremely busy (no doubt that I was the busiest person on base), and I was also constantly looking for other stuff to do, too. I should say, too, that my job had me in a position where I could easily find "other" things to do, places to go, etc. Moss didn't have a chance with me in Greenland. There were many rare and interesting things to see and do all around us. Another thing that worked well for me was changing base/group commanders about half way into my year; second one had no knowledge of what I had already done or where I'd been before he got there - made it easier to go somewhere else. Once when second one began to question why I was going somewhere else so soon after I had gotten back from previous trip, I responded, "Just doing my duty, and you KNOW I'm gonna DO my duty - please, just sign, I need to be on the way." ;<) I'm sure I would have felt differently about it if I'd been "stuck" right there on base. In effort not to make others jealous or feel bad, I never bragged - never mentioned it - to others about where I'd been or what I'd seen. Many never knew I'd been anywhere else. Other than having to be away from my family, it was most enjoyable assignment I had in 22 years on active duty. The integrity, dedication and agreeable nature of the people working for/with me had a lot to to with that, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Scott Ritchey" To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale WILTON wrote: Just another little thing that makes living in Greenland enjoyable instead of the boring misery that it could be otherwise." - I was stationed in a number places during my 25 years in the USAF. One of the things I noticed was that a person's attitude had a lot more to do with their happiness than their actual surroundings. A lot of folks (especially junior enlisted) spent a lot of time complaining that their current assignment lacked specific things they enjoyed "at home". Others took advantage of whatever was available and they had a good time. Wilton's comments on a place many would consider "beyond the end of the world" just reinforce this thought. Scott ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale
WILTON wrote: Just another little thing that makes living in Greenland enjoyable instead of the boring misery that it could be otherwise." - I was stationed in a number places during my 25 years in the USAF. One of the things I noticed was that a person's attitude had a lot more to do with their happiness than their actual surroundings. A lot of folks (especially junior enlisted) spent a lot of time complaining that their current assignment lacked specific things they enjoyed "at home". Others took advantage of whatever was available and they had a good time. Wilton's comments on a place many would consider "beyond the end of the world" just reinforce this thought. Scott ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy tale
My youth was wasted in Europe and Latin America. I had no idea that I did not fit in while in the land of white folks. It seemed natural to learn the language, or else, how was I to get around, purchase goodies, or keep out of trouble? No difference in a child's mind than being in the US, other than everybody was not diverse. Latin America, you figured out pretty fast that you were the minority no matter what color or station the rest of the populace. There were the overly entitled rich, who had it all, but they were not that caucasian, so it all came out in the wash. You could be a dick without being white. Ugly Amerikans were an embarrassment. Gaudy clothing, loud, and dumb as the day is long, expecting to be served as gods, instead of having taken a few moments prior to arriving to learn about the country. I blame Disney clay On Jun 7, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Dieselhead wrote: >> There is an important lesson in here that I learned as a youngster who was >> able to travel outside the country: >> >> When visiting other countries/cultures, follow some simple rules: >> >> 1.) Respect your host's culture. Never ridicule, disrespect, or dismiss >> their culture, language, country, etc. Just because you're an American >> doesn't make you or your country better. >> >> 2.) Take a serious interest in your host's culture/language/country. It >> shows a level of respect that they are due. >> >> 3.) Make an effort to participate, even if it means publicly humiliating >> yourself. >> >> When I traveled as an adult, I went to great lengths to learn what I could >> about the country I would be visiting, including it's history, language, >> cultures, current events, etc. The response you will get from people is >> nothing short of amazing when you show an even limited knowledge of them. I >> can't count the number of times I was welcomed into complete stranger's >> homes to meet their families, neighbors, friends, and so on when I expressed >> an interest in knowing more about them. >> >> I will say this: It can be frightening at times. Be adventuresome. If you >> don't know the culture, you may be met with strange looks, gasps, whatever, >> if you act (by their norms) inappropriately. All you can do is excuse >> yourself and move on. In most cases, your host will help guide you through >> whatever the situation is - if you're gracious they'll understand you're a >> foreigner and forgive you. >> >> By being accepting and understanding that others are just as good (or >> better) than we, you'll have some amazing experiences. Some of the most >> exciting times and experiences I have ever had in my life were with people I >> didn't know and will never see again. They made me feel welcome because I >> respected them and their culture. And I learned some wonderful things about >> other peoples and places, too. >> >> There is nothing worse than the "Ugly American" who goes to another country >> and expects things to be the same as they are back home. After all, what's >> the point? >> >> Dan with over 1,000,000 lifetime flight miles on Northwest alone >> > > Hear Hear!Well said! Not sure anyone can say it better! > > I spent a summer @ 15 trying to become an English kid, and many other weeks > trying to blend into, and learn about other countries and cultures, and > months trying to be a southerner, years trying to fit into the cultures in > other parts of this country. > > Dieselkopf > > Close to a million miles in MBs, untold millions in other vehicles, and a few > thousands of air miles on a couple of handsfull of different, and mostly > extinct airlines. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy tale
There is an important lesson in here that I learned as a youngster who was able to travel outside the country: When visiting other countries/cultures, follow some simple rules: 1.) Respect your host's culture. Never ridicule, disrespect, or dismiss their culture, language, country, etc. Just because you're an American doesn't make you or your country better. 2.) Take a serious interest in your host's culture/language/country. It shows a level of respect that they are due. 3.) Make an effort to participate, even if it means publicly humiliating yourself. When I traveled as an adult, I went to great lengths to learn what I could about the country I would be visiting, including it's history, language, cultures, current events, etc. The response you will get from people is nothing short of amazing when you show an even limited knowledge of them. I can't count the number of times I was welcomed into complete stranger's homes to meet their families, neighbors, friends, and so on when I expressed an interest in knowing more about them. I will say this: It can be frightening at times. Be adventuresome. If you don't know the culture, you may be met with strange looks, gasps, whatever, if you act (by their norms) inappropriately. All you can do is excuse yourself and move on. In most cases, your host will help guide you through whatever the situation is - if you're gracious they'll understand you're a foreigner and forgive you. By being accepting and understanding that others are just as good (or better) than we, you'll have some amazing experiences. Some of the most exciting times and experiences I have ever had in my life were with people I didn't know and will never see again. They made me feel welcome because I respected them and their culture. And I learned some wonderful things about other peoples and places, too. There is nothing worse than the "Ugly American" who goes to another country and expects things to be the same as they are back home. After all, what's the point? Dan with over 1,000,000 lifetime flight miles on Northwest alone Hear Hear!Well said! Not sure anyone can say it better! I spent a summer @ 15 trying to become an English kid, and many other weeks trying to blend into, and learn about other countries and cultures, and months trying to be a southerner, years trying to fit into the cultures in other parts of this country. Dieselkopf Close to a million miles in MBs, untold millions in other vehicles, and a few thousands of air miles on a couple of handsfull of different, and mostly extinct airlines. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy tale
I agree wholeheartedly. I found that to be true not only in Greenland and Denmark, but also in Thailand, Japan and Mexico - even Ontario and Quebec ;<). It's always best to respect one's hosts and to be a good ambassador. I've always been quickly and fully respected and accepted immediately upon showing respect for and interest their culture and language. That reminds me: On a visit to Quebec City with family in '74, I walked up to hotel desk and asked for room(s), etc., with two or three flawless sentences in French. When the desk clerk's fast-paced response overwhelmed, me, I had to say, "I'm sorry, I've nearly expended my quick-response French, may we, please, revert to English, now?" We both had a good laugh, and he replied, "Yes, of course, and I thank you for trying. You were doing very well, by the way." Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy tale There is an important lesson in here that I learned as a youngster who was able to travel outside the country: When visiting other countries/cultures, follow some simple rules: 1.) Respect your host's culture. Never ridicule, disrespect, or dismiss their culture, language, country, etc. Just because you're an American doesn't make you or your country better. 2.) Take a serious interest in your host's culture/language/country. It shows a level of respect that they are due. 3.) Make an effort to participate, even if it means publicly humiliating yourself. When I traveled as an adult, I went to great lengths to learn what I could about the country I would be visiting, including it's history, language, cultures, current events, etc. The response you will get from people is nothing short of amazing when you show an even limited knowledge of them. I can't count the number of times I was welcomed into complete stranger's homes to meet their families, neighbors, friends, and so on when I expressed an interest in knowing more about them. I will say this: It can be frightening at times. Be adventuresome. If you don't know the culture, you may be met with strange looks, gasps, whatever, if you act (by their norms) inappropriately. All you can do is excuse yourself and move on. In most cases, your host will help guide you through whatever the situation is - if you're gracious they'll understand you're a foreigner and forgive you. By being accepting and understanding that others are just as good (or better) than we, you'll have some amazing experiences. Some of the most exciting times and experiences I have ever had in my life were with people I didn't know and will never see again. They made me feel welcome because I respected them and their culture. And I learned some wonderful things about other peoples and places, too. There is nothing worse than the "Ugly American" who goes to another country and expects things to be the same as they are back home. After all, what's the point? Dan with over 1,000,000 lifetime flight miles on Northwest alone On Jun 7, 2013, at 5:07 PM, WILTON wrote: How 'bout anther Sondy tale? SPEAKING DANISH By Wilton Strickland ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy tale
There is an important lesson in here that I learned as a youngster who was able to travel outside the country: When visiting other countries/cultures, follow some simple rules: 1.) Respect your host's culture. Never ridicule, disrespect, or dismiss their culture, language, country, etc. Just because you're an American doesn't make you or your country better. 2.) Take a serious interest in your host's culture/language/country. It shows a level of respect that they are due. 3.) Make an effort to participate, even if it means publicly humiliating yourself. When I traveled as an adult, I went to great lengths to learn what I could about the country I would be visiting, including it's history, language, cultures, current events, etc. The response you will get from people is nothing short of amazing when you show an even limited knowledge of them. I can't count the number of times I was welcomed into complete stranger's homes to meet their families, neighbors, friends, and so on when I expressed an interest in knowing more about them. I will say this: It can be frightening at times. Be adventuresome. If you don't know the culture, you may be met with strange looks, gasps, whatever, if you act (by their norms) inappropriately. All you can do is excuse yourself and move on. In most cases, your host will help guide you through whatever the situation is - if you're gracious they'll understand you're a foreigner and forgive you. By being accepting and understanding that others are just as good (or better) than we, you'll have some amazing experiences. Some of the most exciting times and experiences I have ever had in my life were with people I didn't know and will never see again. They made me feel welcome because I respected them and their culture. And I learned some wonderful things about other peoples and places, too. There is nothing worse than the "Ugly American" who goes to another country and expects things to be the same as they are back home. After all, what's the point? Dan with over 1,000,000 lifetime flight miles on Northwest alone On Jun 7, 2013, at 5:07 PM, WILTON wrote: > How 'bout anther Sondy tale? > > SPEAKING DANISH > By Wilton Strickland > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale - Havbro's Down!
People are usually too timid with the chest compressions. You have to push really hard. Sometimes the subject's ribs will break- that just means you did it right! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > Funny how these things come full circle - there are some people now saying > that CPR can be a bad thing because it's often done incorrectly. > > Dan > > On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Rich Thomas > wrote: > >> Well, those stupid TV shows must have had some merit. You should send this >> to the actors of that Emergency show, I vaguely recall what they looked >> like, wasn't one of them Randy something? They would probably get a kick >> out of it, and it would give them some sense that their acting actually did >> something useful. >> >> --R (who shall not admit to having watched that show) >> >> >> On 4/5/13 11:25 AM, WILTON wrote: >>> 'Nother Sondy Tale; 'don't think I've posted this before; if so, please >>> pardon the redundancy. 'Hope it's not too long for a Friday (Moose Day). >>> >>> HAVBRO'S DOWN! >>> By Wilton Strickland >>> >>> One morning about mid-January, 1979, I was sitting at a briefing table in >>> Havbro Nielsen's office at Sondrestrom Air Base, Greenland. I was Director >>> of Engineering, in charge of construction and maintenance of all physical >>> facilities on base. Havbro was the Danish civilian, civil engineering >>> contractor's chief engineer, my civilian counterpart. I had asked Havbro >>> about some aspect of one of the projects we had underway. He was standing >>> on the other side of the table from me using a flip chart to his left as a >>> briefing aid. The door into the office was behind him. >>> >>> We were having our usual friendly but very business-like discussion of the >>> situation at hand. Suddenly, Havbro stopped in mid-sentence, turned and >>> rushed outside the building. I thought for a second that he had seen >>> something out the window behind me that needed his immediate attention. I >>> turned, glanced out and saw nothing unusual. To rush out without saying, >>> "Please, excuse me", or something to that effect was not like Havbro, at >>> all. He was every bit a gentleman and a stickler for protocol. I was >>> still a bit shocked and confused by his sudden departure and even said >>> aloud to myself, "Well, I guess he'll be back in a minute." He had been >>> gone for only a few seconds when a Danish workman came rushing inside the >>> building and past the doorway to Havbro's office yelling, "Call emergency! >>> Havbro's down! Call emergency!" >>> >>> As Havbro's secretary grabbed the phone, I rushed outside and found Havbro >>> lying on the frozen ground immediately outside the doorway. My immediate >>> thought was that he was dead. His eyes had the classic "blank stare" of >>> death, and I saw no evidence of his breathing. I felt quickly for a pulse >>> at his wrist then at the side of his neck beneath his ear; I felt none, but >>> I also thought, "I may not be feeling just the right place, especially in >>> my excitement." I felt certain, though, that he was dead. >>> >>> I had never had any CPR training. I had seen actors on TV "perform" CPR in >>> such shows as "Emergency", "Squad 51", etc.; I had even seen a couple of >>> Los Angeles EMT's (emergency medical technicians) on the real Squad 53 >>> performing CPR on an actual victim as I crept past an accident scene in Los >>> Angeles several months before, but I had never had any training in it and >>> had never attempted such. My thought was, "Havbro is dead; I must do >>> something; if I can keep some air/oxygen and blood moving through his >>> system 'til the doctor gets here, it may help." I started pumping slowly >>> and rhythmically on his chest the way I had seen them do on TV and on the >>> street in LA as I passed slowly in the car. >>> >>> Meanwhile, the Danish workman had come back out of the building and was >>> kneeling beside Havbro, holding his hand and calling, "Havbro! Havbro!" >>> He also knew that Havbro was dead. I never said a word - I just thought I >>> would keep pumping as long as it takes - 'til a doctor or EMT could get >>> there. As I heard the siren of the ambulance a couple of blocks away, >>> Havbro's eyes suddenly fluttered; he gasped a couple of times and started >>> trying to get up! The workman and I tried to restrain him and tell him not >>> to get up - to just lie there, but as the ambulance pulled up, Havbro got >>> up and walked over to it! He got in the ambulance, and they drove away as >>> the workman and I just stood there in shocked disbelief. >>> >>> A few minutes later, the workman and I went to the hospital and told the >>> nurses and the doctor what had happened. At first, they doubted what we >>> were telling them, but they soon realized that if it had not been for the >>> pumping on his chest, Havbro would likely have been permanently d
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale - Havbro's Down!
Thnks. Wilt - Original Message - From: "Craig" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale - Havbro's Down! On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 11:25:03 -0400 "WILTON" wrote: The president of Havbro's company in Copenhagen, Danish Arctic Contractors, sent the Air Force and me a letter of thanks and commendation for having such "a well-trained officer who knew exactly what to do in such an emergency." As I said before, though, I've never had such training, and I certainly did not know "exactly what to do." I was guided by nothing more than the basic principles of "never give up," and "no matter how bad things get, you have to be able to think and do something." A superlative ATTABOY, Wilton!!! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale - Havbro's Down!
Some rudimentary "first aid" long before CPR became "fashionable/popular." Wilton - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale - Havbro's Down! On 05/04/2013 10:25 AM, WILTON wrote: 'Nother Sondy Tale; 'don't think I've posted this before; if so, please pardon the redundancy. 'Hope it's not too long for a Friday (Moose Day). HAVBRO'S DOWN! By Wilton Strickland I cannot help but think that the most amazing thing is that you had not had first aid training. I would have thought that would have been pretty standard in the military. Randy who took such a course about 40 years ago and needs to brush up on it ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale - Havbro's Down!
Funny how these things come full circle - there are some people now saying that CPR can be a bad thing because it's often done incorrectly. Dan On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: > Well, those stupid TV shows must have had some merit. You should send this > to the actors of that Emergency show, I vaguely recall what they looked like, > wasn't one of them Randy something? They would probably get a kick out of > it, and it would give them some sense that their acting actually did > something useful. > > --R (who shall not admit to having watched that show) > > > On 4/5/13 11:25 AM, WILTON wrote: >> 'Nother Sondy Tale; 'don't think I've posted this before; if so, please >> pardon the redundancy. 'Hope it's not too long for a Friday (Moose Day). >> >> HAVBRO'S DOWN! >> By Wilton Strickland >> >> One morning about mid-January, 1979, I was sitting at a briefing table in >> Havbro Nielsen's office at Sondrestrom Air Base, Greenland. I was Director >> of Engineering, in charge of construction and maintenance of all physical >> facilities on base. Havbro was the Danish civilian, civil engineering >> contractor's chief engineer, my civilian counterpart. I had asked Havbro >> about some aspect of one of the projects we had underway. He was standing >> on the other side of the table from me using a flip chart to his left as a >> briefing aid. The door into the office was behind him. >> >> We were having our usual friendly but very business-like discussion of the >> situation at hand. Suddenly, Havbro stopped in mid-sentence, turned and >> rushed outside the building. I thought for a second that he had seen >> something out the window behind me that needed his immediate attention. I >> turned, glanced out and saw nothing unusual. To rush out without saying, >> "Please, excuse me", or something to that effect was not like Havbro, at >> all. He was every bit a gentleman and a stickler for protocol. I was still >> a bit shocked and confused by his sudden departure and even said aloud to >> myself, "Well, I guess he'll be back in a minute." He had been gone for only >> a few seconds when a Danish workman came rushing inside the building and >> past the doorway to Havbro's office yelling, "Call emergency! Havbro's >> down! Call emergency!" >> >> As Havbro's secretary grabbed the phone, I rushed outside and found Havbro >> lying on the frozen ground immediately outside the doorway. My immediate >> thought was that he was dead. His eyes had the classic "blank stare" of >> death, and I saw no evidence of his breathing. I felt quickly for a pulse >> at his wrist then at the side of his neck beneath his ear; I felt none, but >> I also thought, "I may not be feeling just the right place, especially in my >> excitement." I felt certain, though, that he was dead. >> >> I had never had any CPR training. I had seen actors on TV "perform" CPR in >> such shows as "Emergency", "Squad 51", etc.; I had even seen a couple of Los >> Angeles EMT's (emergency medical technicians) on the real Squad 53 >> performing CPR on an actual victim as I crept past an accident scene in Los >> Angeles several months before, but I had never had any training in it and >> had never attempted such. My thought was, "Havbro is dead; I must do >> something; if I can keep some air/oxygen and blood moving through his system >> 'til the doctor gets here, it may help." I started pumping slowly and >> rhythmically on his chest the way I had seen them do on TV and on the street >> in LA as I passed slowly in the car. >> >> Meanwhile, the Danish workman had come back out of the building and was >> kneeling beside Havbro, holding his hand and calling, "Havbro! Havbro!" He >> also knew that Havbro was dead. I never said a word - I just thought I >> would keep pumping as long as it takes - 'til a doctor or EMT could get >> there. As I heard the siren of the ambulance a couple of blocks away, >> Havbro's eyes suddenly fluttered; he gasped a couple of times and started >> trying to get up! The workman and I tried to restrain him and tell him not >> to get up - to just lie there, but as the ambulance pulled up, Havbro got up >> and walked over to it! He got in the ambulance, and they drove away as the >> workman and I just stood there in shocked disbelief. >> >> A few minutes later, the workman and I went to the hospital and told the >> nurses and the doctor what had happened. At first, they doubted what we >> were telling them, but they soon realized that if it had not been for the >> pumping on his chest, Havbro would likely have been permanently dead. >> >> They flew him to Copenhagen the next day for extensive testing and >> treatment. I left about three weeks later and have not seen Havbro again. >> He recovered and returned to work for several more years at Sondrestrom. I >> spoke to him on the phone several months after this incident. He cited some >> t
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale - Havbro's Down!
On 05/04/2013 10:25 AM, WILTON wrote: 'Nother Sondy Tale; 'don't think I've posted this before; if so, please pardon the redundancy. 'Hope it's not too long for a Friday (Moose Day). HAVBRO'S DOWN! By Wilton Strickland I cannot help but think that the most amazing thing is that you had not had first aid training. I would have thought that would have been pretty standard in the military. Randy who took such a course about 40 years ago and needs to brush up on it ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale - Havbro's Down!
Well, those stupid TV shows must have had some merit. You should send this to the actors of that Emergency show, I vaguely recall what they looked like, wasn't one of them Randy something? They would probably get a kick out of it, and it would give them some sense that their acting actually did something useful. --R (who shall not admit to having watched that show) On 4/5/13 11:25 AM, WILTON wrote: 'Nother Sondy Tale; 'don't think I've posted this before; if so, please pardon the redundancy. 'Hope it's not too long for a Friday (Moose Day). HAVBRO'S DOWN! By Wilton Strickland One morning about mid-January, 1979, I was sitting at a briefing table in Havbro Nielsen's office at Sondrestrom Air Base, Greenland. I was Director of Engineering, in charge of construction and maintenance of all physical facilities on base. Havbro was the Danish civilian, civil engineering contractor's chief engineer, my civilian counterpart. I had asked Havbro about some aspect of one of the projects we had underway. He was standing on the other side of the table from me using a flip chart to his left as a briefing aid. The door into the office was behind him. We were having our usual friendly but very business-like discussion of the situation at hand. Suddenly, Havbro stopped in mid-sentence, turned and rushed outside the building. I thought for a second that he had seen something out the window behind me that needed his immediate attention. I turned, glanced out and saw nothing unusual. To rush out without saying, "Please, excuse me", or something to that effect was not like Havbro, at all. He was every bit a gentleman and a stickler for protocol. I was still a bit shocked and confused by his sudden departure and even said aloud to myself, "Well, I guess he'll be back in a minute." He had been gone for only a few seconds when a Danish workman came rushing inside the building and past the doorway to Havbro's office yelling, "Call emergency! Havbro's down! Call emergency!" As Havbro's secretary grabbed the phone, I rushed outside and found Havbro lying on the frozen ground immediately outside the doorway. My immediate thought was that he was dead. His eyes had the classic "blank stare" of death, and I saw no evidence of his breathing. I felt quickly for a pulse at his wrist then at the side of his neck beneath his ear; I felt none, but I also thought, "I may not be feeling just the right place, especially in my excitement." I felt certain, though, that he was dead. I had never had any CPR training. I had seen actors on TV "perform" CPR in such shows as "Emergency", "Squad 51", etc.; I had even seen a couple of Los Angeles EMT's (emergency medical technicians) on the real Squad 53 performing CPR on an actual victim as I crept past an accident scene in Los Angeles several months before, but I had never had any training in it and had never attempted such. My thought was, "Havbro is dead; I must do something; if I can keep some air/oxygen and blood moving through his system 'til the doctor gets here, it may help." I started pumping slowly and rhythmically on his chest the way I had seen them do on TV and on the street in LA as I passed slowly in the car. Meanwhile, the Danish workman had come back out of the building and was kneeling beside Havbro, holding his hand and calling, "Havbro! Havbro!" He also knew that Havbro was dead. I never said a word - I just thought I would keep pumping as long as it takes - 'til a doctor or EMT could get there. As I heard the siren of the ambulance a couple of blocks away, Havbro's eyes suddenly fluttered; he gasped a couple of times and started trying to get up! The workman and I tried to restrain him and tell him not to get up - to just lie there, but as the ambulance pulled up, Havbro got up and walked over to it! He got in the ambulance, and they drove away as the workman and I just stood there in shocked disbelief. A few minutes later, the workman and I went to the hospital and told the nurses and the doctor what had happened. At first, they doubted what we were telling them, but they soon realized that if it had not been for the pumping on his chest, Havbro would likely have been permanently dead. They flew him to Copenhagen the next day for extensive testing and treatment. I left about three weeks later and have not seen Havbro again. He recovered and returned to work for several more years at Sondrestrom. I spoke to him on the phone several months after this incident. He cited some type of heart problem, but I don't remember the details. He lived for 17 more years, and died of a heart attack in 1996. The president of Havbro's company in Copenhagen, Danish Arctic Contractors, sent the Air Force and me a letter of thanks and commendation for having such "a well-trained officer who knew exactly what to do in such an emergency." As I said before, though, I've never had such trai
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale - Havbro's Down!
On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 11:25:03 -0400 "WILTON" wrote: > The president of Havbro's company in Copenhagen, Danish Arctic > Contractors, sent the Air Force and me a letter of thanks and > commendation for having such "a well-trained officer who knew exactly > what to do in such an emergency." As I said before, though, I've never > had such training, and I certainly did not know "exactly what to do." > I was guided by nothing more than the basic principles of "never give > up," and "no matter how bad things get, you have to be able to think > and do something." A superlative ATTABOY, Wilton!!! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
