Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?
On 2021-01-18 18:21, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Is PGP any good anymore? Or has a backdoor? Probably "B". What bugs me about bitlocker is M$ won't activate it unless you sign up for a M$ account and let them keep your encryption key for you. The closest I want to having my key out of my control is putting it in my safe deposit box. Of course, that comes in handy sometimes, like when my bosses laptop took a dump on her last winter and she had done some payroll work on it that was not backed up anywhere. Took it to a shop and they pulled the HD, found it encrypted, and asked her for her bitlocker key. My what? I told her to log into her M$ account and get the key. Why didn't the computer shop tell me I could get it that way? Good question. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?
Is PGP any good anymore? Or has a backdoor? Probably "B". https://philzimmermann.com/EN/background/index.html Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: January 18, 2021 10:56 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal? Signal was/is considered a major threat to intelligence collection in the NSA and CIA. There are direct references to this in a number of the slide decks that Snowden exposed, and the FBI in particular has continued to clutch it’s pearls to Congress and the DOJ over it’s use by private citizens. It’s open source and not funded by any government agency. Working in the industry I can assure you that if I wanted 100% end to end encrypted messaging I would be using it. And that’s all I’m going to say about it. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?
If you don't have a web provider, you have to have your own hosting servers and internet connections. Not cheap, and you have to have people to run them. For a service that operates world wide with hundreds of millions of users potentially, we aren't talking a couple desktops in a corner. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?
Actually, they had a developer’s API that was coded by a 10 year old that allowed some European hackers to access the stored data even after their rights got pulled. They were able to download a significant amount of message traffic with user names and other identifying data. Interestingly, Parler did not scrub metadata on pictures or other such things, so EXIF and other goodies identifying the devices and their locations were ripe for the picking, so to speak. -D > On Jan 18, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > The Par ler COE said (on TV last night) that they used AWS servers for > development (dumb, IMO) and were unable to download all their codes, etc. > before Amazon pulled the plug. Bad on Amazon but Par lor should have had > safe backups. I have multiple local and cloud backups for even for my little > church site. > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes > Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 2:42 PM > To: Okie Benz > Cc: Dan Penoff > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal? > > Not to pick nits, but Parlor wasn’t “banned” from Amazon Web Services (AWS), > they were “de-platformed”. That’s essentially when your (cloud) service > provider turns off the switch. Amazon said they violated their terms of > service, so they turned it off. > > Same results, though. > > They’re back, as in they now have a hosting provider who is hosting their > domain, but that’s a far cry from having a web service provider. You can have > all the domains you want, but if there’s nowhere to host your content, you’re > pretty much SOL. > > -D > >> On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I don't use either one (I'm not on social media at all, actually) but >> the pitch for Signal is secure end-to-end encryption. I thought it was >> mostly a competitor to SMS or iMessage or other direct message apps. >> Maybe it has a "follow" feature like Twitter? Don't know. >> >> Parler appears to have some issues on the technical side, from what >> I've read. Some clues that their programmers were not very experienced >> or well-educated in secure programming practices (things like using a >> simple sequential number for message IDs, which makes them easy to >> guess). Their main selling point is/was free speech, not so much >> secrecy or privacy. They didn't seem very prepared for being suddenly >> banned from Amazon services, which is maybe understandable but when >> you use cloud providers you should always have a tested plan "B" in >> case you need it. Services like Google and Amazon are known to ban >> accounts for no discernable reason, and talking to a real person to >> get it sorted out is near-impossible. >> >> Allan >> >> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes writes: >> >>> I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem >>> interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and >>> whatnot and data privacy and such. I don't know Parler so that is >>> not something I have used. >>> >>> https://signal.org/en/ >>> >>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-bi >>> g-tech.html >>> >>> Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your >>> politics are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc. >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?
Thats extraordinarily lame. I can't imagine trusting any cloud provider at that level. -Curt On Monday, January 18, 2021, 3:27:16 PM EST, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: The Par ler COE said (on TV last night) that they used AWS servers for development (dumb, IMO) and were unable to download all their codes, etc. before Amazon pulled the plug. Bad on Amazon but Par lor should have had safe backups. I have multiple local and cloud backups for even for my little church site. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 2:42 PM To: Okie Benz Cc: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal? Not to pick nits, but Parlor wasn’t “banned” from Amazon Web Services (AWS), they were “de-platformed”. That’s essentially when your (cloud) service provider turns off the switch. Amazon said they violated their terms of service, so they turned it off. Same results, though. They’re back, as in they now have a hosting provider who is hosting their domain, but that’s a far cry from having a web service provider. You can have all the domains you want, but if there’s nowhere to host your content, you’re pretty much SOL. -D > On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > I don't use either one (I'm not on social media at all, actually) but > the pitch for Signal is secure end-to-end encryption. I thought it was > mostly a competitor to SMS or iMessage or other direct message apps. > Maybe it has a "follow" feature like Twitter? Don't know. > > Parler appears to have some issues on the technical side, from what > I've read. Some clues that their programmers were not very experienced > or well-educated in secure programming practices (things like using a > simple sequential number for message IDs, which makes them easy to > guess). Their main selling point is/was free speech, not so much > secrecy or privacy. They didn't seem very prepared for being suddenly > banned from Amazon services, which is maybe understandable but when > you use cloud providers you should always have a tested plan "B" in > case you need it. Services like Google and Amazon are known to ban > accounts for no discernable reason, and talking to a real person to > get it sorted out is near-impossible. > > Allan > > Floyd Thursby via Mercedes writes: > >> I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem >> interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and >> whatnot and data privacy and such. I don't know Parler so that is >> not something I have used. >> >> https://signal.org/en/ >> >> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-bi >> g-tech.html >> >> Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your >> politics are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc. >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?
The Par ler COE said (on TV last night) that they used AWS servers for development (dumb, IMO) and were unable to download all their codes, etc. before Amazon pulled the plug. Bad on Amazon but Par lor should have had safe backups. I have multiple local and cloud backups for even for my little church site. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 2:42 PM To: Okie Benz Cc: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal? Not to pick nits, but Parlor wasn’t “banned” from Amazon Web Services (AWS), they were “de-platformed”. That’s essentially when your (cloud) service provider turns off the switch. Amazon said they violated their terms of service, so they turned it off. Same results, though. They’re back, as in they now have a hosting provider who is hosting their domain, but that’s a far cry from having a web service provider. You can have all the domains you want, but if there’s nowhere to host your content, you’re pretty much SOL. -D > On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > I don't use either one (I'm not on social media at all, actually) but > the pitch for Signal is secure end-to-end encryption. I thought it was > mostly a competitor to SMS or iMessage or other direct message apps. > Maybe it has a "follow" feature like Twitter? Don't know. > > Parler appears to have some issues on the technical side, from what > I've read. Some clues that their programmers were not very experienced > or well-educated in secure programming practices (things like using a > simple sequential number for message IDs, which makes them easy to > guess). Their main selling point is/was free speech, not so much > secrecy or privacy. They didn't seem very prepared for being suddenly > banned from Amazon services, which is maybe understandable but when > you use cloud providers you should always have a tested plan "B" in > case you need it. Services like Google and Amazon are known to ban > accounts for no discernable reason, and talking to a real person to > get it sorted out is near-impossible. > > Allan > > Floyd Thursby via Mercedes writes: > >> I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem >> interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and >> whatnot and data privacy and such. I don't know Parler so that is >> not something I have used. >> >> https://signal.org/en/ >> >> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-bi >> g-tech.html >> >> Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your >> politics are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc. >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?
Not to pick nits, but Parlor wasn’t “banned” from Amazon Web Services (AWS), they were “de-platformed”. That’s essentially when your (cloud) service provider turns off the switch. Amazon said they violated their terms of service, so they turned it off. Same results, though. They’re back, as in they now have a hosting provider who is hosting their domain, but that’s a far cry from having a web service provider. You can have all the domains you want, but if there’s nowhere to host your content, you’re pretty much SOL. -D > On Jan 18, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > I don't use either one (I'm not on social media at all, actually) but > the pitch for Signal is secure end-to-end encryption. I thought it was > mostly a competitor to SMS or iMessage or other direct message > apps. Maybe it has a "follow" feature like Twitter? Don't know. > > Parler appears to have some issues on the technical side, from what I've > read. Some clues that their programmers were not very experienced or > well-educated in secure programming practices (things like using a > simple sequential number for message IDs, which makes them easy to > guess). Their main selling point is/was free speech, not so much secrecy > or privacy. They didn't seem very prepared for being suddenly banned > from Amazon services, which is maybe understandable but when you use > cloud providers you should always have a tested plan "B" in case you > need it. Services like Google and Amazon are known to ban accounts for > no discernable reason, and talking to a real person to get it sorted out > is near-impossible. > > Allan > > Floyd Thursby via Mercedes writes: > >> I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem >> interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and >> whatnot and data privacy and such. I don't know Parler so that is not >> something I have used. >> >> https://signal.org/en/ >> >> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html >> >> Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your politics >> are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc. >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?
I don't use either one (I'm not on social media at all, actually) but the pitch for Signal is secure end-to-end encryption. I thought it was mostly a competitor to SMS or iMessage or other direct message apps. Maybe it has a "follow" feature like Twitter? Don't know. Parler appears to have some issues on the technical side, from what I've read. Some clues that their programmers were not very experienced or well-educated in secure programming practices (things like using a simple sequential number for message IDs, which makes them easy to guess). Their main selling point is/was free speech, not so much secrecy or privacy. They didn't seem very prepared for being suddenly banned from Amazon services, which is maybe understandable but when you use cloud providers you should always have a tested plan "B" in case you need it. Services like Google and Amazon are known to ban accounts for no discernable reason, and talking to a real person to get it sorted out is near-impossible. Allan Floyd Thursby via Mercedes writes: > I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem > interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and > whatnot and data privacy and such. I don't know Parler so that is not > something I have used. > > https://signal.org/en/ > > https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html > > Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your politics > are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?
Correct. -D > On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Signal was/is considered a major threat to intelligence collection in the NSA > and CIA. There are direct references to this in a number of the slide decks > that Snowden exposed, and the FBI in particular has continued to clutch it’s > pearls to Congress and the DOJ over it’s use by private citizens. It’s open > source and not funded by any government agency. Working in the industry I can > assure you that if I wanted 100% end to end encrypted messaging I would be > using it. > > And that’s all I’m going to say about it. > > -D > >> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> interesting. I am trying to overthrow Johns Island but I don't know who to >> throw over yet. I probably need to buy a boat first though. Maybe I should >> get to know this guy >> >> https://www.postandcourier.com/news/the-navys-uss-high-point-was-abandoned-a-charleston-man-hopes-to-bring-it-back/article_9ed6c200-55c1-11eb-9b26-ab25366b15d3.html >> >> >> The Navy’s USS High Point was abandoned. A Charleston man hopes to >> bring it back to life. >> >> But we might need a bigger boat >> >> --FT >> >> On 1/18/21 11:35 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: >>> Signal was developed by a CIA contractor so big brother can keep tabs on >>> you while you think you've got an encrypted communication channel. I guess >>> that may be better than google / apple / fakebook / borg having control >>> over your data and selling it for a profit. Just don't use it to plot the >>> next overthrow of the banana republic. >>> - >>> Max >>> Charleston SC >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:28 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and whatnot and data privacy and such. I don't know Parler so that is not something I have used. https://signal.org/en/ https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your politics are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc. -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> . >> >> -- >> --FT >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?
To get the encryption, both parties have to download the app. On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 8:56 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Signal was/is considered a major threat to intelligence collection in the > NSA and CIA. There are direct references to this in a number of the slide > decks that Snowden exposed, and the FBI in particular has continued to > clutch it’s pearls to Congress and the DOJ over it’s use by private > citizens. It’s open source and not funded by any government agency. Working > in the industry I can assure you that if I wanted 100% end to end encrypted > messaging I would be using it. > > And that’s all I’m going to say about it. > > -D > > > On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > interesting. I am trying to overthrow Johns Island but I don't know who > to throw over yet. I probably need to buy a boat first though. Maybe I > should get to know this guy > > > > > https://www.postandcourier.com/news/the-navys-uss-high-point-was-abandoned-a-charleston-man-hopes-to-bring-it-back/article_9ed6c200-55c1-11eb-9b26-ab25366b15d3.html > > > > > > The Navy’s USS High Point was abandoned. A Charleston man hopes to > > bring it back to life. > > > > But we might need a bigger boat > > > > --FT > > > > On 1/18/21 11:35 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > >> Signal was developed by a CIA contractor so big brother can keep tabs on > >> you while you think you've got an encrypted communication channel. I > guess > >> that may be better than google / apple / fakebook / borg having control > >> over your data and selling it for a profit. Just don't use it to plot > the > >> next overthrow of the banana republic. > >> - > >> Max > >> Charleston SC > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:28 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem > >>> interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and > >>> whatnot and data privacy and such. I don't know Parler so that is not > >>> something I have used. > >>> > >>> https://signal.org/en/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html > >>> > >>> Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your politics > >>> are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> --FT > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> . > > > > -- > > --FT > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?
Signal was/is considered a major threat to intelligence collection in the NSA and CIA. There are direct references to this in a number of the slide decks that Snowden exposed, and the FBI in particular has continued to clutch it’s pearls to Congress and the DOJ over it’s use by private citizens. It’s open source and not funded by any government agency. Working in the industry I can assure you that if I wanted 100% end to end encrypted messaging I would be using it. And that’s all I’m going to say about it. -D > On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > interesting. I am trying to overthrow Johns Island but I don't know who to > throw over yet. I probably need to buy a boat first though. Maybe I should > get to know this guy > > https://www.postandcourier.com/news/the-navys-uss-high-point-was-abandoned-a-charleston-man-hopes-to-bring-it-back/article_9ed6c200-55c1-11eb-9b26-ab25366b15d3.html > > > The Navy’s USS High Point was abandoned. A Charleston man hopes to > bring it back to life. > > But we might need a bigger boat > > --FT > > On 1/18/21 11:35 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: >> Signal was developed by a CIA contractor so big brother can keep tabs on >> you while you think you've got an encrypted communication channel. I guess >> that may be better than google / apple / fakebook / borg having control >> over your data and selling it for a profit. Just don't use it to plot the >> next overthrow of the banana republic. >> - >> Max >> Charleston SC >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:28 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem >>> interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and >>> whatnot and data privacy and such. I don't know Parler so that is not >>> something I have used. >>> >>> https://signal.org/en/ >>> >>> >>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html >>> >>> Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your politics >>> are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc. >>> >>> -- >>> --FT >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> . > > -- > --FT > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?
interesting. I am trying to overthrow Johns Island but I don't know who to throw over yet. I probably need to buy a boat first though. Maybe I should get to know this guy https://www.postandcourier.com/news/the-navys-uss-high-point-was-abandoned-a-charleston-man-hopes-to-bring-it-back/article_9ed6c200-55c1-11eb-9b26-ab25366b15d3.html The Navy’s USS High Point was abandoned. A Charleston man hopes to bring it back to life. But we might need a bigger boat --FT On 1/18/21 11:35 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Signal was developed by a CIA contractor so big brother can keep tabs on you while you think you've got an encrypted communication channel. I guess that may be better than google / apple / fakebook / borg having control over your data and selling it for a profit. Just don't use it to plot the next overthrow of the banana republic. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:28 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and whatnot and data privacy and such. I don't know Parler so that is not something I have used. https://signal.org/en/ https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your politics are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc. -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com . -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?
https://weehingthong.org/2021/01/16/signal-is-a-us-govt-operation-having-been-created-and-fund-by-a-cia-spin-off-is-it-true/ It's written on the internet, so it must be true. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:35 AM Meade Dillon wrote: > Signal was developed by a CIA contractor so big brother can keep tabs on > you while you think you've got an encrypted communication channel. I guess > that may be better than google / apple / fakebook / borg having control > over your data and selling it for a profit. Just don't use it to plot the > next overthrow of the banana republic. > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:28 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem >> interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and >> whatnot and data privacy and such. I don't know Parler so that is not >> something I have used. >> >> https://signal.org/en/ >> >> >> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html >> >> Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your politics >> are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc. >> >> -- >> --FT >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?
Signal is what the military is requiring all active duty people to use, if that is any indication. This article from Forbes details the metadata collected by Messenger, WhatsApp and Signal. https://flip.it/n0jk-l On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 8:28 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem > interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and > whatnot and data privacy and such. I don't know Parler so that is not > something I have used. > > https://signal.org/en/ > > > https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html > > Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your politics > are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc. > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anyone know/use Signal?
Signal was developed by a CIA contractor so big brother can keep tabs on you while you think you've got an encrypted communication channel. I guess that may be better than google / apple / fakebook / borg having control over your data and selling it for a profit. Just don't use it to plot the next overthrow of the banana republic. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:28 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I drive firmly down the middle of the road but these apps seem > interesting given all the hoo-rah these days over FB and Tweeter and > whatnot and data privacy and such. I don't know Parler so that is not > something I have used. > > https://signal.org/en/ > > > https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/technology/telegram-signal-apps-big-tech.html > > Keep the conversation technical please, I don't care what your politics > are in regards to the issues of data privacy, etc. > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
