Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Love when one of us gets a "Win" . Congrats on finding an honest body man
that would shoot square with you.


On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 7:24 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The totaled truck finally made it back here, directly to the shop.  I met
> with him today,
> and his first words were: "Who told you you needed a frame?"  In his
> opinion the
> frame damage is minimal, and easily straightened.  So, no need for a donor
> truck
> at all, the regular boneyard had all necessary pieces for $975.  He thought
> 2-3
> days would see the end of it.
>
> Looks like I've got a V10 to flip.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

The totaled truck finally made it back here, directly to the shop.  I met
with him today,
and his first words were: "Who told you you needed a frame?"  In his
opinion the
frame damage is minimal, and easily straightened.  So, no need for a donor
truck
at all, the regular boneyard had all necessary pieces for $975.  He thought
2-3
days would see the end of it.

Looks like I've got a V10 to flip.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

That's great news!   Waytago!



Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

The shop that will be doing the frame swap is willing to 'purchase' the
bed-less leftovers from me, primarily V10/tranny/transfer/rear-diff, for
roughly a $750 reduction in the charges.  Basically now quoted at $2,750
for the swap, plus whatever front-diff gearing changes might be needed.
And, no hassle!  Basically I'm getting half my money back out of the donor
truck.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Sounds like a winner!  
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'95 E300

On May 26, 2018 6:52:39 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:
>Nice.  Almost takes the sting out of having to replace it!
>
>-D
>
>
>> On May 26, 2018, at 2:01 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> The shop that will be doing the frame swap is willing to 'purchase'
>the
>> bed-less leftovers from me, primarily V10/tranny/transfer/rear-diff,
>for
>> roughly a $750 reduction in the charges.  Basically now quoted at
>$2,750
>> for the swap, plus whatever front-diff gearing changes might be
>needed.
>> And, no hassle!  Basically I'm getting half my money back out of the
>donor
>> truck.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Nice.  Almost takes the sting out of having to replace it!

-D


> On May 26, 2018, at 2:01 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The shop that will be doing the frame swap is willing to 'purchase' the
> bed-less leftovers from me, primarily V10/tranny/transfer/rear-diff, for
> roughly a $750 reduction in the charges.  Basically now quoted at $2,750
> for the swap, plus whatever front-diff gearing changes might be needed.
> And, no hassle!  Basically I'm getting half my money back out of the donor
> truck.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

The shop that will be doing the frame swap is willing to 'purchase' the
bed-less leftovers from me, primarily V10/tranny/transfer/rear-diff, for
roughly a $750 reduction in the charges.  Basically now quoted at $2,750
for the swap, plus whatever front-diff gearing changes might be needed.
And, no hassle!  Basically I'm getting half my money back out of the donor
truck.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Congrats!
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'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 23, 2018 9:07:22 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
wrote:
>Got the final offer on the wrecked truck today, $18,734 and I keep the
>truck.  That means
>my Cummins/tranny combo, low miles, cost about $1,300 which is well
>under
>its salvage
>value IMHO.  They are throwing in transporting the wreck from Seattle
>to
>Spokane, which
>is more than 300 miles.
>
>The V10's days are numbered.  Small ones.
>
>Kid has NO interest in cars.  To him, and most of his peers, they're
>appliances.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Got the final offer on the wrecked truck today, $18,734 and I keep the
truck.  That means
my Cummins/tranny combo, low miles, cost about $1,300 which is well under
its salvage
value IMHO.  They are throwing in transporting the wreck from Seattle to
Spokane, which
is more than 300 miles.

The V10's days are numbered.  Small ones.

Kid has NO interest in cars.  To him, and most of his peers, they're
appliances.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Get an old Mopar with 225 1bbl or 273 2bbl, let the kid spruce it up. 
Next summer, if he hasn't gotten in trouble with it, put the V10 and some rod 
bearings in the kids car. 

Just a '65 Cuda with a V10 mill.
But she'll walk a Thunderbird like its standin' still...

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> Interesting, that is good news.  Bad bearing noise from transmission or ???
>

Rods.

Can you sell a V10, tranny and computers for anything?


Perhaps not so much.  See above.  Otherwise, it's running great.  I'm
fairly impressed with the thing's torque.
I saw one set on a pallet on the 'Bay, for about $1000, but I've no idea if
it sold, or not.  Mine is _known_ to
have problems, but I'm told it's not too hard to slap bearings in there, if
the engine is already out.  Looks like
a bearing kit is about $170.

If it was a _Viper_ V10, well...

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Interesting, that is good news.  Bad bearing noise from transmission or ???

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Still waiting on a buy-back valuation, but in other news the transmission
seems to be fixed.
Spontaneously Friday, on two of the four legs that day, the transmission
worked perfectly.
(Bad, Good, Good, Bad.)  Well, that just _screams_ electrical to me, so
Saturday I went
through all the external electrics, pulling relays, etc.  I cleaned the
contacts _inside_ the
associated relay, and cleaned the external blades.  I used De-Ox-It on all
contacts, internal
and external.  (I had already done the engine/transmission computer's
connectors.)  I then
re-pulled the tranny connector and used brake cleaner on it again, making
sure to get a
bunch puddled into the upward-facing socket.  I then used compressed air to
blow it out.
Not sure whether it was on top, or inside the socket, but I could fee/hear
small chunks blow
around there.  I did that twice, then used De-Ox-It on the connector, and
plugged it back in.
I think it seated further than before, with a positive 'snick', which I
don't remember from before.

Subsequent to that, all trips have been with a perfectly functioning
transmission.  Engine
RPM's are now low on the freeway, about 1,500 RPM at 55-ish.  You can feel
all four shifts,
counting the one where the torque converter lockup engages.  Nice.  Maybe
the next tank
will turn in better than the first one, which was 10.8 MPG.  Hey, at least
it made it into double
digits, which I wasn't really expecting.  V10's are thirsty beasts.

The bearing noise, though, is _not_ a good sign, and is enough to help keep
me from feeling
too guilty at the prospect of slaughtering this truck for parts to get mine
going again.
What I really needed was a rollover, one that did not damage the
mechanicals, but I doubt
that one of those would have been any cheaper than the $1,450 that this one
cost me.
($2,140 ready to drive.)

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Counter for $20k even and you keep the scrap metal. 
Worst they can say is no. 
Mitch. 

> On May 15, 2018 at 11:16 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> The truck saga proceeds glacially.  USAA has finally responded formally
> with a resolution of total loss,
> and a settlement offer of $20,040.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

The truck saga proceeds glacially.  USAA has finally responded formally
with a resolution of total loss,
and a settlement offer of $20,040.  (Remember that I bought the truck in
1998 for $26,500 or so.)
Seems pretty fair to me.

They, however, have not yet said what the salvage buy-back value is.  I
have found a shop that
does only frame swaps and other frame work, the place that the expensive
body shop uses,
and he estimated $3k-$3.5k to do the swap, perhaps more with incidentals.
 (Gear ratio
change in the front, etc.)

I am currently driving the V10 parts donor truck, with its rattly bearings
and a slushbox stuck
in limp-home mode.  Hey, it works, even the AC, and was only $2100 in its
current condition,
1/10 the value of the other.

The parts truck was a peer to mine, and probably cost nearly the same
originally.  One had
aged better than the other, that's for sure!  (OK, I did have mine
repainted.)

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have herons out in the marsh

--FT


On 5/4/18 7:29 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

We have egrets down by the river.

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 6:34 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


On May 4, 2018 at 12:51 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Jim sez:


Have to find somebody to do the swap, >though.

Father and son project.

He wrecked it, he fixes it.

I second that emotion.
Catheys already have a crane in their back yard.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On May 4, 2018 at 10:51 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> just have to find the willing fool ^H^H^H^H shop.

And be willing to live with the quality of the job they do on it. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> Father and son project.  He wrecked it, he fixes it.


Normally I would agree with you.  But, we need the (a) truck, and don't
have two years to peck away at it.
Already lots of things are not getting done, don't need to add to the
pile.  The settlement check should more
than cover it, just have to find the willing fool ^H^H^H^H shop.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

We have egrets down by the river.

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 6:34 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On May 4, 2018 at 12:51 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Jim sez:
> >
> > >Have to find somebody to do the swap, >though.
> >
> > Father and son project.
> >
> > He wrecked it, he fixes it.
>
> I second that emotion.
> Catheys already have a crane in their back yard.
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On May 4, 2018 at 12:51 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Jim sez:
> 
> >Have to find somebody to do the swap, >though.
> 
> Father and son project. 
> 
> He wrecked it, he fixes it. 

I second that emotion. 
Catheys already have a crane in their back yard. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Jim sez:

>Have to find somebody to do the swap, >though.

Father and son project. 

He wrecked it, he fixes it. 

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Apparently a 2-3 only mode is pretty common in these, and often an easy fix.
But, this is a PARTS truck, and that part I don't need!

Lots of room under the hood, even with a V10 in it.  Runs rougher than
you'd think,
but this V10 is not symmetrical, unlike Ford's.  Much simpler and more
robust
as a result.  It's a pushrod engine, so it ought to be fairly durable over
time.
(Simple timing chain, like on an I6, but much shorter.)

I fiddled with the lights to get them all working, so as to avoid the
bulls.I made a new
interior door pull out of a section of alternator belt from a Mercedes, and
got the spare
tire hung back in place.  This truck is THRASHED compared to how mine was,
which
was like new, inside and out.

Then I filled the bed with bicycles and recycling.  Got a truck again,
might as well use it...

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Trucks

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

My '96 Dakota got stuck in 1st at one point. I put in half a quart of the Lucas 
magic transmission stuff and ran it around until it got warm and which point 
the other gears came back. Ran it for a couple more days and put in a clean 
fill of M1 ATF (and new filter) and it was good for another 50,000 miles...

Curt

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  On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 12:27 AM, Jim Cathey via 
Mercedes wrote:   Today I procured a potential donor, or 
at least a temporary (?) fill-in.
 $1450 for the 1996 V10 4x4 extended cab long-bed.  Same basic truck as
mine, but with a V10 and an automatic.  Rattly POS at this point, with a
weak tranny.  Still, don't need it to be much, except intact where it
counts and able to haul itself to surgery, while hauling some things around
for us until then.  About $2150 down the road, with some used tires that
are actually round.

I suspect that the tranny's problem is that it starts in 2, and only goes
to 3.  Hey, it drives.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT Trucks

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> > > Curley wrote:
> > >
> > > ...then when I got beside him I stomped the pedal,  the back
> > > 2 barrels of the 392 opened up, the front end of the old 1500
> > > rose up 3-4 inches and we accelerated pretty fast for a truck
> > > going uphill.

> > Don wrote:
> >
> > https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/5759292564.html
> >
> > Its not a 392, but a 345.  But, it is still a IH truck!

> G wrote:
> 
> I have a nice 420 Cubic Inch Diesel International V8 that would
> drop right in that old truck... Hmmm.. classic IH ...
> 
> Ride like a brick.. pull like a train...

Hey, that ride could be fixed with a proper air suspension.  Good
diesel engine, sturdy truck frame and body, practically elegant
ride - just needs a full length bed 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Trucks

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I have a nice 420 Cubic Inch Diesel International V8 that would drop right
in that old truck... Hmmm.. classic IH ...

Ride like a brick.. pull like a train...

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 8:20 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Curley wrote:
>
> "My favorite 454 story is how one was pulling an empty stock trailer up a
> long grade, with little or no muffler, grunting and groaning. (about 1995,
> so it was an 88 or 89 pickup)   I was driving the 66 IH 1500 with
> probably 8000 lb of cargo up the same grade, passing him effortlessly,
> then when I got beside him I stomped the pedal,  the back 2 barrels of the
> 392 opened up, the front end of the old 1500 rose up 3-4 inches and we
> accelerated pretty fast for a truck going uphill.  no grunting or groaning,
> the old truck just went.  At that point it had around 400,000 miles on it.
> It was originally a 304.  No way it would stand up and take off like that
> with the 304.
> GIven a choice between a IH 3/4 ton with 392 4 bbl and a 454 in a gm
> truck, I'd take the IH, hands down.  But you won't find one for the price
> of that shovey.  (IF you could fine one!)"
>
>
> Ask and you shall receive.   The first thing that popped up when I opened
> craigslist this morning.
>
> https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/5759292564.html
>
> Its not a 392, but a 345.  But, it is still a IH truck! Needs a little
> restoration, but it could be cool!
>
> Don Snook
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Trucks

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Curley wrote: 

"My favorite 454 story is how one was pulling an empty stock trailer up a long 
grade, with little or no muffler, grunting and groaning. (about 1995, so it was 
an 88 or 89 pickup)   I was driving the 66 IH 1500 with 
probably 8000 lb of cargo up the same grade, passing him effortlessly, then 
when I got beside him I stomped the pedal,  the back 2 barrels of the 392 
opened up, the front end of the old 1500 rose up 3-4 inches and we accelerated 
pretty fast for a truck going uphill.  no grunting or groaning, the old truck 
just went.  At that point it had around 400,000 miles on it.  It was originally 
a 304.  No way it would stand up and take off like that with the 304.
GIven a choice between a IH 3/4 ton with 392 4 bbl and a 454 in a gm truck, I'd 
take the IH, hands down.  But you won't find one for the price of that shovey.  
(IF you could fine one!)" 


Ask and you shall receive.   The first thing that popped up when I opened 
craigslist this morning. 

https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/5759292564.html

Its not a 392, but a 345.  But, it is still a IH truck! Needs a little 
restoration, but it could be cool! 

Don Snook 





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Re: [MBZ] OT Trucks

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Donald wrote:
> 
> Anybody know much about older Chevy Trucks?

Oh yeah.

> I found a 1995 3/4 2WD Extended Cab with the 454.

Err - that's not old...  Electronic fuel injection.  Probably has
the 4L80 transmission.

> I know the gas mileage would be awful.  Maybe 12-13 mpg - on the
> highway.  10-11 in town?  It's a 2wd so that probably helps. 

Maybe less.  I don't have any experience with a fuel injected
engine, but with a carburetor getting 10 would be quite good.

If your purpose is a "farm truck" that doesn't go very far, the
fuel mileage doesn't matter so much.

> I'm not sure why I would be interested in it, but I am.

'Cause you realize that a Chevy is "better" than a Ford? *smile*


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Re: [MBZ] OT Trucks

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The IH 392 was a medium duty truck engine that made its way down into the light 
duty trucks, most of those ended up in Loadstars.
I'd love to be able to get an IH pickup that wasn't all rusted out, they were 
super cool.
-Curt

  From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 7:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Trucks
   
A lot of em were used to pull stock trailers and for hot shots pulling 
as many cars as they can cram on a trailer.  Camper use was possibly 
less stressful for them.  If this was was not used for a lot of heavy 
towing, it could be a gem.

Gas consumption is horrible.  Pretty much turn on a 1/4" or 5/16 hose 
into the manifold and let er rip.

My favorite 454 story is how one was pulling an empty stock trailer up a 
long grade, with little or no muffler, grunting and groaning. (about 
1995, so it was an 88 or 89 pickup)  I was driving the 66 IH 1500 with 
probably 8000 lb of cargo up the same grade, passing him effortlessly, 
then when I got beside him I stomped the pedal,  the back 2 barrels of 
the 392 opened up, the front end of the old 1500 rose up 3-4 inches and 
we accelerated pretty fast for a truck going uphill.  no grunting or 
groaning, the old truck just went.  At that point it had around 400,000 
miles on it.  It was originally a 304.  No way it would stand up and 
take off like that with the 304.

GIven a choice between a IH 3/4 ton with 392 4 bbl and a 454 in a gm 
truck, I'd take the IH, hands down.  But you won't find one for the 
price of that shovey.  (IF you could fine one!)

> Donald Snook via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> August 30, 2016 at 5:25 PM
> Anybody know much about older Chevy Trucks? I found a 1995 3/4 2WD 
> Extended Cab with the 454. It has 123K miles on it and looks like it 
> has 50,000. I know the 454 has been around forever and is a solid 
> engine. Usually something with a 454 has probably been used for towing 
> or some heavy duty work. This truck looks like it has been babied. I 
> know the gas mileage would be awful. Maybe 12-13 mpg - on the highway. 
> 10-11 in town? It's a 2wd so that probably helps. I'm not sure why I 
> would be interested in it, but I am.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Trucks

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Barrister Snook may soon be able to afford the Benzin!


G Mann via Mercedes 
August 30, 2016 at 6:10 PM
454 Chevy engine... the engine application is cross linked with the
speedometer and the fuel gauge however.

The fuel gauge will go to empty at the inverse rate the speedometer 
goes to

faster.

Power = money



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Re: [MBZ] OT Trucks

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

A lot of em were used to pull stock trailers and for hot shots pulling 
as many cars as they can cram on a trailer.   Camper use was possibly 
less stressful for them.  If this was was not used for a lot of heavy 
towing, it could be a gem.


Gas consumption is horrible.  Pretty much turn on a 1/4" or 5/16 hose 
into the manifold and let er rip.


My favorite 454 story is how one was pulling an empty stock trailer up a 
long grade, with little or no muffler, grunting and groaning. (about 
1995, so it was an 88 or 89 pickup)   I was driving the 66 IH 1500 with 
probably 8000 lb of cargo up the same grade, passing him effortlessly, 
then when I got beside him I stomped the pedal,  the back 2 barrels of 
the 392 opened up, the front end of the old 1500 rose up 3-4 inches and 
we accelerated pretty fast for a truck going uphill.  no grunting or 
groaning, the old truck just went.  At that point it had around 400,000 
miles on it.  It was originally a 304.  No way it would stand up and 
take off like that with the 304.


GIven a choice between a IH 3/4 ton with 392 4 bbl and a 454 in a gm 
truck, I'd take the IH, hands down.  But you won't find one for the 
price of that shovey.  (IF you could fine one!)



Donald Snook via Mercedes 
August 30, 2016 at 5:25 PM
Anybody know much about older Chevy Trucks? I found a 1995 3/4 2WD 
Extended Cab with the 454. It has 123K miles on it and looks like it 
has 50,000. I know the 454 has been around forever and is a solid 
engine. Usually something with a 454 has probably been used for towing 
or some heavy duty work. This truck looks like it has been babied. I 
know the gas mileage would be awful. Maybe 12-13 mpg - on the highway. 
10-11 in town? It's a 2wd so that probably helps. I'm not sure why I 
would be interested in it, but I am.


Don Snook
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Re: [MBZ] OT Trucks

[G Mann via Mercedes]

454 Chevy engine... the engine application  is cross linked with the
speedometer and the fuel gauge however.

The fuel gauge will go to empty at the inverse rate the speedometer goes to
faster.

Power = money

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have a 96 ext cab with a 305 (which does no different from the 350
> mileage-wise near as I can tell), has like 110Kmi on it now, 4WD, minimal
> issues (except for deathcool rotted head gasket I replaced), still in good
> shape except for AC is not working.  I really like the truck.
>
> I think the 454 was mostly directed at those who would be towing larger
> loads and would show no particular benefit in general.  If you can get it
> for a good price it would probably last near forever, so gas might not be a
> huge consideration given how far down it is on depreciation, ins costs,
> etc. and the engine is "bulletproof!"
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 8/30/16 6:25 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Anybody know much about older Chevy Trucks?  I found a 1995 3/4 2WD
>> Extended Cab with the 454.   It has 123K miles on it and looks like it has
>> 50,000.   I know the 454 has been around forever and is a solid engine.
>> Usually something with a 454 has probably been used for towing or some
>> heavy duty work.  This truck looks like it has been babied.   I know the
>> gas mileage would be awful.  Maybe 12-13 mpg - on the highway.  10-11 in
>> town?  It's a 2wd so that probably helps. I'm not sure why I would be
>> interested in it, but I am.
>>
>> Don Snook
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[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have a 96 ext cab with a 305 (which does no different from the 350 
mileage-wise near as I can tell), has like 110Kmi on it now, 4WD, 
minimal issues (except for deathcool rotted head gasket I replaced), 
still in good shape except for AC is not working.  I really like the truck.


I think the 454 was mostly directed at those who would be towing larger 
loads and would show no particular benefit in general.  If you can get 
it for a good price it would probably last near forever, so gas might 
not be a huge consideration given how far down it is on depreciation, 
ins costs, etc. and the engine is "bulletproof!"


--FT


On 8/30/16 6:25 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

Anybody know much about older Chevy Trucks?  I found a 1995 3/4 2WD Extended 
Cab with the 454.   It has 123K miles on it and looks like it has 50,000.   I 
know the 454 has been around forever and is a solid engine.  Usually something 
with a 454 has probably been used for towing or some heavy duty work.  This 
truck looks like it has been babied.   I know the gas mileage would be awful.  
Maybe 12-13 mpg - on the highway.  10-11 in town?  It's a 2wd so that probably 
helps. I'm not sure why I would be interested in it, but I am.

Don Snook
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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[Mitch Haley]

Frederick Moir wrote:

"Built by trolls in Trollhatten"?


I wish I could have said that about my 1977 EMS rustbucket.
All the Belgian Saabs of that era were rustbucket, and all the sunroof cars were 
 assembled in Belgium. I always wondered if they stamped the sheetmetal in 
Trollhatten and then sent it by sea to Belgium, where it would have arrived 
pre-rusted.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[Curt Raymond]

You're not thinking of: 
http://shop.saabcarmuseum.com/shop/32995/art95/h9284/15649284-origpic-75354e.jpg
are you?

-Curt

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 14:59:31 -0400
From: "WILTON" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT trucks
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Used to be a VW sticker that went something like this, "Built by elfs in der 
voods."

Wilt
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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[Frederick Moir]

Alex, et al.
Would it be OK to strain it through my kidneys first?
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.



>
> From: Alex Chamberlain 
>To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2013 3:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT trucks
> 
>
>On Oct 3, 2013 12:05 PM, "Frederick Moir"  wrote:
>>
>> "Built by trolls in Trollhatten"?
>>
>
>Pour some aquavit on the ground for Saab...
>
>
>Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Oct 3, 2013 12:05 PM, "Frederick Moir"  wrote:
>
> "Built by trolls in Trollhatten"?
>

Pour some aquavit on the ground for Saab...

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[Frederick Moir]

"Built by trolls in Trollhatten"?
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.



>
> From: WILTON 
>To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2013 2:59 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT trucks
> 
>
>Used to be a VW sticker that went something like this, "Built by elfs in der 
>voods."
>
>Wilt
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Alex Chamberlain" 
>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 2:28 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT trucks
>
>
>> On Oct 3, 2013 10:50 AM, "OK Don"  wrote:
>>>
>>> My 2013 F150 single cab has a sticker inside the lower right corner of 
>>> the
>>> windshield that says it was "crafted" in the Kansas city plant.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Artisan pickups?
>>
>> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[Randy Bennell]

No, big green and oval.
I will be surprised if it does not refer to the plant and the unions.

Randy

On 03/10/2013 1:51 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Oct 3, 2013 11:45 AM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:

I know there is a sticker in that spot. I
will look to see what it says.


Henry Ford's signature, perhaps.

Alex
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[WILTON]

Used to be a VW sticker that went something like this, "Built by elfs in der 
voods."


Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Chamberlain" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT trucks



On Oct 3, 2013 10:50 AM, "OK Don"  wrote:


My 2013 F150 single cab has a sticker inside the lower right corner of 
the

windshield that says it was "crafted" in the Kansas city plant.




Artisan pickups?

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Oct 3, 2013 11:45 AM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:
>
> I know there is a sticker in that spot. I
> will look to see what it says.
>

Henry Ford's signature, perhaps.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[Randy Bennell]

I know there is a sticker in that spot. I will look to see what it says.

Randy

On 03/10/2013 12:50 PM, OK Don wrote:

My 2013 F150 single cab has a sticker inside the lower right corner of the
windshield that says it was "crafted" in the Kansas city plant.


On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 3:51 PM, WILTON  wrote:



  No idea. Where do they build F150 Supercrew trucks these days?

Randy

On 02/10/2013 3:11 PM, WILTON wrote:


ATTABOY.

Where was it built?

Wilt







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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Oct 3, 2013 10:50 AM, "OK Don"  wrote:
>
> My 2013 F150 single cab has a sticker inside the lower right corner of the
> windshield that says it was "crafted" in the Kansas city plant.
>
>

Artisan pickups?

Alex
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[OK Don]

My 2013 F150 single cab has a sticker inside the lower right corner of the
windshield that says it was "crafted" in the Kansas city plant.


On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 3:51 PM, WILTON  wrote:

>
>
>  No idea. Where do they build F150 Supercrew trucks these days?
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> On 02/10/2013 3:11 PM, WILTON wrote:
>>
>>> ATTABOY.
>>>
>>> Where was it built?
>>>
>>> Wilt
>>>
>>>


-- 
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safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
"in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."
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2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[Mountain Man]

WILTON wrote:
> ...We don't even have a functioning government.

Speaking of...
Don't we have some furloughed workers on okiebenz?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[Jim Cathey]

We don't even have a functioning government.   ;<)


Heh!  Do we ever?

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[G Mann]

I believe the quote if from Mark Twain and said
"The most dangerous place in America is Congress, in session."

Could have been Will Rogers.. both were wise men and  before my time.


On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Craig  wrote:

> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 16:51:47 -0500 Randy Bennell 
> wrote:
>
> > On 02/10/2013 3:51 PM, WILTON wrote:
> > >   We don't even have a functioning government. ;<)
> > >
> > > Wilton
> > >
> >
> > THAT just might be a good thing.
>
> Who was it, Will Rogers maybe, that said something to the effect of,
> "hold on to your wallets; Congress is in session"?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[Craig]

On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 16:51:47 -0500 Randy Bennell 
wrote:

> On 02/10/2013 3:51 PM, WILTON wrote:
> >   We don't even have a functioning government. ;<)
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> 
> THAT just might be a good thing.

Who was it, Will Rogers maybe, that said something to the effect of,
"hold on to your wallets; Congress is in session"?


Craig

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[WILTON]

Thanks for trying to help us.  ;<)

Wilton

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On 02/10/2013 4:34 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Oct 2, 2013 1:13 PM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:

No idea. Where do they build F150 Supercrew trucks these days?


The first digit of the VIN will tell you.  1 is the USA, 2 Canada, 3 
Mexico.


Alex
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VIN starts with a 1 so USA.

Good thing there is no number for China.

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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[Randy Bennell]

On 02/10/2013 3:51 PM, WILTON wrote:

  We don't even have a functioning government. ;<)

Wilton



THAT just might be a good thing.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[Randy Bennell]

On 02/10/2013 4:34 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Oct 2, 2013 1:13 PM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:

No idea. Where do they build F150 Supercrew trucks these days?



The first digit of the VIN will tell you.  1 is the USA, 2 Canada, 3 Mexico.

Alex
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VIN starts with a 1 so USA.

Good thing there is no number for China.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Oct 2, 2013 1:13 PM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:
>
> No idea. Where do they build F150 Supercrew trucks these days?
>
>

The first digit of the VIN will tell you.  1 is the USA, 2 Canada, 3 Mexico.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

They have a sticker either on the drivers door jamb somewhere or in the corner 
of one of the windows somewhere 

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2013, at 3:13 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> No idea. Where do they build F150 Supercrew trucks these days?
> 
> Randy
> 
> On 02/10/2013 3:11 PM, WILTON wrote:
>> ATTABOY.
>> 
>> Where was it built?
>> 
>> Wilt
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" 
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 3:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT trucks
>> 
>> 
>>> Yeah, just doing my bit to keep the economy rolling along
>>> 
>>> Randy
>>> 
>>> On 02/10/2013 11:32 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>>>> ATTABOY
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I decided a while back that I should upgrade my truck.
>>>>> Part of the reason is it is just nicer to drive something newer that does 
>>>>> not need much work.
>>>>> Another part  of the reason is that my younger son was driving even older 
>>>>> vehicles and I wanted to help him a bit by passing my 02 Supercrew on to 
>>>>> him before it was totally worn out.
>>>>> So, I watched the local ads for used trucks for a while and finally 
>>>>> decided that used trucks were stupidly expensive and most of the ones for 
>>>>> sale have more mileage on them than I wanted. For not a whole lot more, I 
>>>>> could buy a new one.
>>>>> The temptation is to buy fancier than one truly needs and I ended up with 
>>>>> something more expensive than I wanted but will hopefully keep it a long 
>>>>> while and get my money's worth out of it.
>>>>> I got a 2013 Supercrew 4X4 with the 5.0 and 6 speed auto.
>>>>> Not quite a fancy as the previous one which was a Lariat but still pretty 
>>>>> nice. Cloth rather than leather and no climate control system but apart 
>>>>> from that, lots of good things like the backup camera and satellite radio 
>>>>> and built in bluetooth etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Randy
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[WILTON]

'Don't know - just wondering if you might have helped us out; we need all 
the help we can get.  We don't even have a functioning government.   ;<)


Wilton

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Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT trucks



No idea. Where do they build F150 Supercrew trucks these days?

Randy

On 02/10/2013 3:11 PM, WILTON wrote:

ATTABOY.

Where was it built?

Wilt

- Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT trucks



Yeah, just doing my bit to keep the economy rolling along

Randy

On 02/10/2013 11:32 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

ATTABOY

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:


I decided a while back that I should upgrade my truck.
Part of the reason is it is just nicer to drive something newer that 
does not need much work.
Another part  of the reason is that my younger son was driving even 
older vehicles and I wanted to help him a bit by passing my 02 
Supercrew on to him before it was totally worn out.
So, I watched the local ads for used trucks for a while and finally 
decided that used trucks were stupidly expensive and most of the ones 
for sale have more mileage on them than I wanted. For not a whole lot 
more, I could buy a new one.
The temptation is to buy fancier than one truly needs and I ended up 
with something more expensive than I wanted but will hopefully keep it 
a long while and get my money's worth out of it.

I got a 2013 Supercrew 4X4 with the 5.0 and 6 speed auto.
Not quite a fancy as the previous one which was a Lariat but still 
pretty nice. Cloth rather than leather and no climate control system 
but apart from that, lots of good things like the backup camera and 
satellite radio and built in bluetooth etc.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[Randy Bennell]

No idea. Where do they build F150 Supercrew trucks these days?

Randy

On 02/10/2013 3:11 PM, WILTON wrote:

ATTABOY.

Where was it built?

Wilt

- Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT trucks



Yeah, just doing my bit to keep the economy rolling along

Randy

On 02/10/2013 11:32 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

ATTABOY

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:


I decided a while back that I should upgrade my truck.
Part of the reason is it is just nicer to drive something newer 
that does not need much work.
Another part  of the reason is that my younger son was driving even 
older vehicles and I wanted to help him a bit by passing my 02 
Supercrew on to him before it was totally worn out.
So, I watched the local ads for used trucks for a while and finally 
decided that used trucks were stupidly expensive and most of the 
ones for sale have more mileage on them than I wanted. For not a 
whole lot more, I could buy a new one.
The temptation is to buy fancier than one truly needs and I ended 
up with something more expensive than I wanted but will hopefully 
keep it a long while and get my money's worth out of it.

I got a 2013 Supercrew 4X4 with the 5.0 and 6 speed auto.
Not quite a fancy as the previous one which was a Lariat but still 
pretty nice. Cloth rather than leather and no climate control 
system but apart from that, lots of good things like the backup 
camera and satellite radio and built in bluetooth etc.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[WILTON]

ATTABOY.

Where was it built?

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Bennell" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT trucks



Yeah, just doing my bit to keep the economy rolling along

Randy

On 02/10/2013 11:32 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

ATTABOY

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:


I decided a while back that I should upgrade my truck.
Part of the reason is it is just nicer to drive something newer that 
does not need much work.
Another part  of the reason is that my younger son was driving even 
older vehicles and I wanted to help him a bit by passing my 02 Supercrew 
on to him before it was totally worn out.
So, I watched the local ads for used trucks for a while and finally 
decided that used trucks were stupidly expensive and most of the ones 
for sale have more mileage on them than I wanted. For not a whole lot 
more, I could buy a new one.
The temptation is to buy fancier than one truly needs and I ended up 
with something more expensive than I wanted but will hopefully keep it a 
long while and get my money's worth out of it.

I got a 2013 Supercrew 4X4 with the 5.0 and 6 speed auto.
Not quite a fancy as the previous one which was a Lariat but still 
pretty nice. Cloth rather than leather and no climate control system but 
apart from that, lots of good things like the backup camera and 
satellite radio and built in bluetooth etc.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Oct 2, 2013 12:04 PM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:
>
> Yeah, just doing my bit to keep the economy rolling along
>
>

I just bought SWMBO a new Mazda CX-5.  Only the second new car I've ever
owned.  0.9% financing was just too tempting.  Basically free money, apart
from the depreciation (which doesn't really matter if you plan to keep the
vehicle 10-15 years, as we do).

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

[Randy Bennell]

Yeah, just doing my bit to keep the economy rolling along

Randy

On 02/10/2013 11:32 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

ATTABOY

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:


I decided a while back that I should upgrade my truck.
Part of the reason is it is just nicer to drive something newer that does not 
need much work.
Another part  of the reason is that my younger son was driving even older 
vehicles and I wanted to help him a bit by passing my 02 Supercrew on to him 
before it was totally worn out.
So, I watched the local ads for used trucks for a while and finally decided 
that used trucks were stupidly expensive and most of the ones for sale have 
more mileage on them than I wanted. For not a whole lot more, I could buy a new 
one.
The temptation is to buy fancier than one truly needs and I ended up with 
something more expensive than I wanted but will hopefully keep it a long while 
and get my money's worth out of it.
I got a 2013 Supercrew 4X4 with the 5.0 and 6 speed auto.
Not quite a fancy as the previous one which was a Lariat but still pretty nice. 
Cloth rather than leather and no climate control system but apart from that, 
lots of good things like the backup camera and satellite radio and built in 
bluetooth etc.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT trucks

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ATTABOY

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> I decided a while back that I should upgrade my truck.
> Part of the reason is it is just nicer to drive something newer that does not 
> need much work.
> Another part  of the reason is that my younger son was driving even older 
> vehicles and I wanted to help him a bit by passing my 02 Supercrew on to him 
> before it was totally worn out.
> So, I watched the local ads for used trucks for a while and finally decided 
> that used trucks were stupidly expensive and most of the ones for sale have 
> more mileage on them than I wanted. For not a whole lot more, I could buy a 
> new one.
> The temptation is to buy fancier than one truly needs and I ended up with 
> something more expensive than I wanted but will hopefully keep it a long 
> while and get my money's worth out of it.
> I got a 2013 Supercrew 4X4 with the 5.0 and 6 speed auto.
> Not quite a fancy as the previous one which was a Lariat but still pretty 
> nice. Cloth rather than leather and no climate control system but apart from 
> that, lots of good things like the backup camera and satellite radio and 
> built in bluetooth etc.
> 
> Randy
> 
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