RE: [meteorite-list] Pluto - Part 2 of 2

2004-03-17 Thread mark ford


Personally I think the best and easiest way to define a 'planet' - size
;

If the object is Pluto sized or above then it's a planet, (unless it's
orbiting another body in which case it's a moon or satellite).


Either that or we define every 'non-comet (i.e solid rock)' that orbits
the sun as a 'planet' - So then we would have a couple of billion
planets in our solar system, - chuffing marvelous.


Dictionary definition of the word planet;

'planet' is any heavenly body that shines by reflected sunlight and
revolves about the Sun.

So that's as clear as mud then, bit of a pisser if the 'planet' is
black.



Mark Ford


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[meteorite-list] Interesting asteroid names

2004-03-17 Thread gsac
Now here is a little goodie...:
(6524) Baalke

And two more outstanding ones:...:
(6371) Heinlein 
(73491) Robmatson

More listees with their own asteroids?
Greetings from sunny Berlin,
Alex


Ron answered:
-

 Done!

 7610 Sudbury

 Ron B.


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[meteorite-list] Simulation of Solar System with 2 Equal Earth-Like Planets in same orbit

2004-03-17 Thread Francis Graham

  Bob Mateson's discussion about a good planet
definition ended with the interesting follow-up
question of what would happen if we had 2 large
planets sharing the same orbit.
  In 1994 the science fiction reviewer William B. Hall
of Pittsburgh discussed the science-fiction idea of an
Anti-Earth, which cropped up in several stories and at
least one movie, about an earth in the opposite side
of the Earth's orbit around the sun, orbiting with the
same period, perpetually hidden by the glare of the
sun. This literary device made for much interesting
science-fiction as you can imagine.
  Of course such a body if it existed would have been
detected in the 19th century because of orbital
perturbations on the other planets, which had been
measurable to sufficient accuracy then.
  Nonetheless Bill and I wondered about the stability
of an Anti-Earth in the solar system. It certainly
would seem it could not be hidden for long, but due to
perturbations would creep around and eventually
interact with Earth. So, we set up a GravSim program
(operating on a 286 machine!) and ran it with an
Anti-Earth over-night. Ejection of one of the Earths
from the solar system took place within 100,000 years.
 Even if the GravSim program had gross limitations (it
likely did) such a fast ejection would likely not be
ameliorated by a more precise algorithm.
  There was no publication of this expected result
except in a small local newsletter devoted to space
travel. (The Anti-Earth  Rocket Mail, Vol 2 No. 5
Feb. 7, 1994). But it was fun, and so was the movie,
whose title ten years later I can't recall but which
starred Roy Thinnes. 
  Anyway, for two planets of the same size
diametrically opposed at least, Bob , your definition
is safe: it seems this is dynamically unstable, and so
the concern is moot.

Francis Graham




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RE: [meteorite-list] Bring the Paragould Meteorite home

2004-03-17 Thread Anita Westlake
I just read about this meteorite last night in the Nininger book Find a
Falling Star. It seems that the farmer who found it in his field told
Harvey Nininger about it. Before Nininger could get there (in a matter of
days) the farmer had lent the meteorite to the local high school. 

Unbeknownst to the farmer, within days, the high school SOLD IT to a private
collector for $300.00. When Nininger and the farmer found out about it, they
trotted over to the high school and the farmer had a physical altercation
with the principal. The school eventually awarded the farmer the $300.00 for
the meteorite, but the specimen was not recovered from the private
collector. 

Eventually, Nininger bought it for six thousand dollars and had to resell it
to support his habit (buying meteorites!)
Anita

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http://www.paragoulddailypress.com/articles/2004/03/15/news/news01.txt

Residents attempting to bring the 'Paragould Meteorite' home

PARAGOULD -- If the efforts of the community are successful, Paragould could
once again be home to the phenomenal 800-pound Paragould Meteorite.

Larry Hancock, a lifelong resident of Paragould, recently became interested
in bringing the cosmic artifact back to northeast Arkansas.

The meteorite, which crashed a few miles southwest of Finch at 4:08 a.m. on
Feb. 17, 1930, is the third largest meteorite ever discovered.

W.H. Hodges, a farmer, discovered the meteorite in a hole that measured
8-feet deep.

After its discovery, meteorite collector Harvey Nininger purchased the
meteorite before selling it for profit to the Field Museum of Natural
History in Chicago.

Today, the meteorite resides at the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville,
where it is being kept on loan from the Field Museum.

Hancock stated he has contacted both UA faculty member Dr. Derek Sears --who
has been instrumental in the displaying of the meteorite at UA-- and
Meenakshi Wadhwa, Field Museum meteorite curator, about the possibility of
bringing the Paragould Meteorite home for public display.

However, the current dilemma resides in the fact that, according to Hancock,
UA officials have not been in violation of the loan requirements, and
therefore, will remain in possession of the meteorite until the Field Museum
determines them to be unsuitable keepers of the relic.

According to Hancock, Sears has not been willing to relinquish possession of
the meteorite, which is being used for scientific purposes at UA.

If God would've wanted that thing in Fayetteville, he would've landed it
there, Hancock said.

With support from the public, Hancock believes that the Paragould Meteorite
could be brought back to northeast Arkansas.

Paragould Mayor Mike Gaskill stated that he supports the effort, but also
added that Paragould needs a place to house the meteorite during its
displaying in northeast Arkansas.

The problem is, we don't have anywhere to put it, Gaskill said.

Main Street Paragould Director Sherry Cunningham expressed much of the same
sentiment.

I believe that this is where it belongs, Cunningham said. But my question
is 'where do you store it?'

According to Cunningham, the Greene County Historical Preservation Society
is currently looking into the possibility of finding a home for a Greene
County/Paragould Museum.

Cunningham also added that such an attraction would be a great opportunity
for Greene County and the state, as the Crowley's Ridge Scenic Byway --
Arkansas' only national scenic byway -- passes through downtown Paragould.

I think we're well overdue for a museum here, Cunningham said. I think we
need something to show off here in Greene County.

Bettye Busby, president of the Greene County Historical Preservation
Society, stated that the organization would be extremely interested in
displaying the meteorite once the goal of finding a home for a county museum
has been accomplished.

I think this is where it should be, Busby said, especially if we do
succeed in getting a museum.

If it turns out that there are more people interested in it, I would like
to see it come to Paragould, Hancock said. There's only one 'Paragould
Meteorite,' really. This is a historical thing for us, and it would be a
historical justice for the meteorite to return to Paragould.

At 7 p.m. on April 8, a public meeting will be hosted by the Greene County
Historical Preservation Society at First Presbyterian Church.

According to Busby, this initial meeting will determine the amount of
interest the community has in housing a museum.

We'd have to have the support of the community to begin, or there'd be no
reason to pursue it, Busby said.

It's going to be an uphill battle, Hancock said. Without the support of
the people, it probably will not happen.

According to Hancock, after the meeting on April 8, the next step 

Re: [meteorite-list] Interesting asteroid names

2004-03-17 Thread Dieter Heinlein
 More listees with their own asteroids?
 Greetings from sunny Berlin,
 Alex

Here's one of the best:
(3184) Raab

Cheers

Dieter


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Re: [meteorite-list] Bring the Paragould Meteorite home

2004-03-17 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello Anita, John and list  Anite wrote "Eventually, Nininger bought it for six thousand dollars and had to resell it to support his habit (buying meteorites!)"  I have been talking with Larry Hancock the last week plus but did not know of his complete interest in the meteorite, until John posted the article. Ishould note Anita that Nininger paid $3500 for the stone, and sold it for $6200.00, which he figured gave him a $2000 profit after everything figured in. The funds from the Paragould meteorite was used by Nininger to leave his secure teaching career. And while most credit this meteorite for the start of his new "career". I would credit the meteorite Nininger recovered before this, Covert as the key stone. This was the third find in one area by Nininger and convinced him his program would work..Paragould just finished the funds.  Information on the Covert meteorite, http://www.meteoritearticles.com/Covert.htmlMark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com  


Re: [meteorite-list] Bring the Paragould Meteorite home

2004-03-17 Thread MARK BOSTICK
  Hello Matt and list, Matt wrote "I believe Nininger himself, credited the Paragould stone as his starting point."  Paragould was a turning point in Nininger's life. However, Nininger does state in Find a Falling star, "The Covert Meteorites gave me assurance that my theory would be fruitful, and I was now determined to resign my teaching position as soon as my finance were in better shape, and devote my time to meteorites. I proposed to lecture, hunt meteorites, and supply specimens to museums."  In my humble opinion,Covert proved the Nininger Field Program...as we now call it.  Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com


[meteorite-list] Pluto help, thanks

2004-03-17 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hello List, I wanted to thank everyone for all the help I recieved on Pluto,
the thread on Pluto is helping too! : )
Thanks, Tom
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[meteorite-list] Canyon Diablo meteorite

2004-03-17 Thread Phil Dombrowski



3/17/04

Dear Group:


I am a 
disabled school teacher (MS) now retired. I have been an active 
amateurastronomer for 50 years and am very much at home when I visit the 
AmericanSouthwest. I have been to meteor crater many 
times. I am looking to buy a piece of the meteorite that made 
meteor crater. Iknow that good sized pieces are expensive. I am 
wondering if through contacting 
someone in the 
group I might be able to make your members aware of my interest.Perhaps 
someone of them might have a piece that they would be willing 
tosell.

I am well aware 
that small pieces are widely available on eBay and other sites on the 
internet.
I would be so 
very pleased to own a piece of Canyon Diablo meteorite that is 

between 5-10 
pounds and reasonably affordable.
 Thanks for your time and patience. Phil 
Dombrowski


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[meteorite-list] The Mid-West, and Introducing the Wild Horse, Colorado Meteorite

2004-03-17 Thread MARK BOSTICK
 Hello Meteorite Central list, Meteorite Articles list and the Colorado Meteorite Club (Comets),   Due to the nature of this e-mail I am sending it out to a few different list, so if you get more then one of these please delete one. Only one person should get three...sorry, Anne. I am always confused at what the "Mid-West" of the United States was as a child. I lived in Kansas and only about 60 miles from the center of the United States. Kansas has always been a farming state, we are the wheat state, the breadbasket of America. The Mid-West is well known for its farming and there has never been any confusion that I live in the mid-west. Yet somehow, other states, like Ohio, were considered part of the Mid-West. Ohio is nowhere near me. Geologically, Kansas is totally flat and boring. No mountains, no natural lakes, no canyons, no ocean beside it's missingshores, but we are not a desert. Just flat farm land for hundreds of miles. And this flatness extendsaround Kansas. You can go all the way to Denver, Coloradotill you realized you were in another state (~525 miles). Much of Nebraska and Oklahoma is flat as well However, if I go east, then I run in Missourithe show me state. Missouri is well know for its Ozarks. An area of lakes, lots of hills, crystal caves and endless trees. In Kansas, we have to plant trees to keep our top soil from blowing awayand you should still expect $100+ in property damage from wind every year. The two places are nothing alike. I understand now that Ohio IS part of the 'Mid-West", because when the tern was first used, in the late 1700's, and most of the people trying to make life in the new country were settled on the east coast, it was the middle west. So it is not really correct for me to refer to the flat area, that extends around me...except to the east, as the "mid-west", if I am only referring to this area. Forgive me for rambling on but you might also notice that this flat area could have been considered meteorite hunting legend Harvey Nininger's playground, as most of his field work focused here. Others have since been successful in this same region...which I will refer to from now on as the Nininger Region.  Steve Arnold (International Meteorite Broker) and Allan Shaw are two people that have done well in Nininger Region during the last 10 years. Steve Arnold, has done a great job at recovering more of old finds (Admire, Johnson City and others)and being one of the first at any meteorite fall site. Allan Shaw and his brother have went door to door in Kansas, and placed notices on telephone poles until their arms were sore. For their efforts they have recovered a several new meteorites in and around Kansas. Two of these meteorites would be the "Wichita" and the "Wild Horse" meteorites (provisional names). The Wichita meteorite I introduced the other day, today, I will introduce the Wild Horse meteorite.  "The "Wild Horse" (provisional name) meteorite was discovered during July 1979 by a farmer tilling his field, one mile south and two miles west of the town of Wild Horse in Cheyenne County, Colorado. A single mass of 1360.5 grams was recovered. This stone was subsequently purchased by Kansas City area meteorite collector Allen Shaw. Allen, in conjunction with one of his relatives, Dirk Ross, brought the stone to the University of Tokyo in Japan for classification. The meteorite was classified by Dr. Kentaro Kanedo, stone chondrite H5, shock factor of 2 and a weathering grade of 3. Finally the meteorite was purchased by a member of the Kansas Meteorites Society and currently resides in Wichita, Kansas. Weathering had damaged one side of the stone before it was recovered and a small portion of the stone was lost. Multiple cracks in the meteorite helped it weather more and the matrix around these cracks is visually altered. The less weathered sections of the meteorite show nice round chondrules that appear consistent in size, ~2-4 mm." Photos of the Wild Horse meteorite can be found on the following webpage http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colwildhorse.html  Further comments on Wild Horse chondrules. Visually, the chondrules matrix of Wild Horse reminds me a lot of the African meteorite find NWA 065. The meteorite looks different, but both are H5's and both have what appear to be nicer then the normal H5 chondrules. In a thin section however, NWA 065 doe not look, chondrule rich, as it does in hand slices. I suspect that Wild Horse meteorite thin sections will look similar. I will post some photos of a small NWA 065 slice I have and a thin section I got from Ron Hartman to the Meteorite Central list sometime this week. When Wild Horse thin sections are completed I will post photos of it if there is interest as well. I guess my comment here is, it isstrangehow sometimes a thin section of a meteorite, looks nothing like you would think it would. Sometimes 3's look like 5's, or sometimes 5's look like 3's, visually in hand specimens that is. I don't think Wild Horse 

Re: [meteorite-list] Planet definition

2004-03-17 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hello List,  I am a firm believer that Pluto is not a planet, I feel it is
to small and it's orbit is not like any of the other eight planets, so I
would have to say size is not the best way to define a planet but the shape
of it's orbit. : ) How many planets cross orbits of other planets?
   Second thing,  I have absolutely nothing to back this, it is just a
feeling, but I think Pluto and Charon were both Moons of a larger planet
that, in some big event, got sucked out on there own, and thats why they
float around together. Is this at all possible?

Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian Meteorites

2004-03-17 Thread Bjørn Sørheim
Hello,
Yes, I should know them pretty well by know...
But, my first reaction is: Have a find or fall occured in Norway that I don't
know of - or are you going on a search trip to Norway?

Bjørn Sørheim,
in Norway

At 21:05 16.03.04 -0700, you wrote:
Does anyone know what the rules governing the exportation of meteorites from
Norway?
Thanks,  Fred Olsen, Denver


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RE: [meteorite-list] Bring the Paragould Meteorite home

2004-03-17 Thread Matt Morgan



Mark:
I believe Nininger himself, credited the 
Paragould stone as his starting point.
Matt

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  BOSTICKSent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 7:26 AMTo: Anita 
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  Paragould Meteorite home
  Hello Anita, John and list
  
  Anite wrote "Eventually, Nininger bought it for six thousand dollars and 
  had to resell it to support his habit (buying meteorites!)"
  
  I have been talking with Larry Hancock the last week plus but did not 
  know of his complete interest in the meteorite, until John posted the 
  article. Ishould note Anita that Nininger paid $3500 for the 
  stone, and sold it for $6200.00, which he figured gave him a $2000 profit 
  after everything figured in. The funds from the Paragould meteorite was 
  used by Nininger to leave his secure teaching career. And while most credit 
  this meteorite for the start of his new "career". I would credit the 
  meteorite Nininger recovered before this, Covert as the key stone. This 
  was the third find in one area by Nininger and convinced him his program would 
  work..Paragould just finished the funds.
  
  Information on the Covert meteorite, http://www.meteoritearticles.com/Covert.html
  
  
  
  Mark Bostick
  www.meteoritearticles.com
  
  


[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rovers Update - March 16, 2004

2004-03-17 Thread Ron Baalke

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html

SPIRIT UPDATE: Steering to 'Serpent' - sol 71, Mar 16, 2004

Spirit began sol 71, which ended at 4:26 a.m. PST March 16, 2004, with a 
morning nap to re-charge after the record-breaking number of activ
ities it accomplished on sol 70. After that, it was back to work. Spirit 
began by retracting the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer, closing the 
doors, and imaging the doors with the front hazard avoidance cameras to 
confirm that they were closed. Spirit then proceeded to observe a soil 
target with the microscopic imager, and it also used the panoramic camera 
to observe the magnets, do a sky survey and capture a dust devil movie.

Then it was time to drive. Spirit completed a 15-meter (49.2 feet) blind 
drive followed by a 3-meter (9.8 feet) auto-navigation drive around the 
south rim of Bonneville crater toward a drift named Serpent. Once
there, Spirit completed post-drive science observations and a miniature 
thermal emission spectrometer study of the atmosphere, ground and future 
drive direction.

Spirit's main objective on sol 72, which ends at 5:06 a.m. PST March 17, 
2004, will be to disturb and analyze the material at Serpent. Spirit 
will drive over the dune and back up to an optimal observation position. 
It will then analyze the area with the panoramic camera and mini thermal 
emission spectrometer. Spirit will end the sol by driving back on top of 
the dune.



OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Scuff and Go - sol 51, Mar 16, 2004

Opportunity reached the first of five targets in its current soil survey 
on the rover's 51st sol on Mars. The sol, which ended at 4:47 p.m. PST on 
March 16, began with a salute to the rover's intended target on the 
southern face of the crater where it has been exploring since its early 
sols on Mars. Song of the South by Alabama was chosen to wake Opportunity 
for a busy sol that involved a 15-meter (49.2 feet) u-shaped drive toward 
the soil target.

Before the rover ventured away from the outcrop that has been the focus 
for the majority of its mission, alpha particle X-ray spectrometer 
observations were completed on the red rind dubbed Shark's Tooth. The 
arm was stowed before Opportunity scuffed the rock Carousel with its 
front left wheel. Results of the experiment were imaged as Opportunity 
backed up and prepared for its drive away from the outcrop.

Backing down towards the center of the crater and then arcing around the 
Challenger Memorial Station, Opportunity ultimately drove back up the 
slope to a position fairly close to the rim. On its way to the current
soil target, the rover was also able to image the trench it previously 
dug on sol 23 from a different angle.

In the coming sols, Opportunity will use the instruments on its arm to 
examine all five soil targets identified for the soil survey.


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[meteorite-list] Derek Sears and the Paragould Meteorite

2004-03-17 Thread bernd . pauli
 Hancock stated he has contacted ... UA faculty
 member Dr. Derek Sears who has been instrumental
 in the displaying of the meteorite at UA

 According to Hancock, Sears has not been willing to
 relinquish possession of the meteorite, which is being
 used for scientific purposes at UA.

Hello All,

Derek Sears published a booklet on Arkansas falls and finds with
two eyewitness reports gathered by C.C. Wylie and H.H. Nininger:

Near Beach Grove, Arkansas, two young men, Charlie Norman and Willie Allison,
were going fishing. They were driving in a farm wagon when the landscape lighted
up; it seemed to them brighter than day. Looking up they saw a ball of fire with a
tail to it coming from the northeast. It passed overhead, and went out at an altitude
of about 20 degrees in the southwest. The team, accustomed to bright automobile
lights, paid little attention to the display, and the boys drove on without change
of pace for perhaps a hundred yards. Here, an explosion which jarred things like an
earthquake startled the men and caused the horses to plunge. The first blast seemed
to come from about where the meteor had disappeared, and following this a roar as
though a big train were passing rolled back along the path of the meteor. It crashed
back to overhead in no time, and then on to the northeast, the rumbling being audible
for perhaps half a minute. At this point, according to Charlie, Willie wanted to turn
around and go back home, However, when they had quieted the team and talked things 
over,
the two men decided to go on with their fishing trip.

Eyewitness report no. 2 is a very sad, a very moving account:

At Poplar Bluff, Missouri, a father was returning from a trip to the doctor. His child 
was seriously
ill, and his nerves were worn from loss of sleep and worry. In his own words, I was 
walking along
the road and all at once the earth lit up as light as day. I looked up at the moon and 
saw a ball of
fire with a long tail of fire to it coming out of the east. It looked like it was 
going to hit me so
I ran to get out of its way and just before it got to me it burst into flames and went 
out. In about
one minute the earth shook like an earthquake. When I got in the house my wife was 
crying and said she
believed that was a sign our baby was going to die, and we lost our baby four days 
after that happened.

Reference:

SEARS D.W.G. (1987) Thunderstones - A study of meteorites based
on falls and finds in Arkansas (University of Arkansas Press).

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[meteorite-list] You better jump on this one!

2004-03-17 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hey list, even if you do not do the ebay thing, I don't think anyone should
miss this, Ken, can you tell me if this is real or not?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2232849776category=3239

Thanks, Tom
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[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rovers Images - March 16, 2004

2004-03-17 Thread Ron Baalke

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/spirit/20040316a.html

Drifts of Dust or Something Else?
Press Release Image: Spirit
March 16, 2004

While the interior and far walls of the crater dubbed Bonneville 
can be seen in the background, the dominant foreground features in 
this 180-degree navigation camera mosaic are the wind-deposited drifts 
of dust or sand. NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Spirit completed this 
mosaic on sol 71, March 15, 2004, from its newest location at the rim 
of Bonneville crater. 

Scientists are interested in these formations in part because they 
might give insight into the processes that formed some of the material 
within the crater. Thermal emission measurements by the rover indicate 
that the dark material just below the far rim of this crater is 
spectrally similar to rocks that scientists have analyzed along their
journey to this location. They want to know why this soil-like material 
has a spectrum that more closely resembles rocks rather than other 
soils examined so far. The drifts seen in the foreground of this mosaic 
might have the answer. Scientists hypothesize that these drifts might 
consist of wind-deposited particles that are the same as the dark 
material found against the back wall of the crater. If so, Spirit may 
spend time studying the material and help scientists understand why it 
is different from other fine-grained material seen at Gusev. 

The drifts appear to be lighter in color than the dark material 
deposited on the back wall of the crater. They might be covered by a 
thin deposit of martian dust, or perhaps the drift is like other 
drifts seen during Spirit's journey and is just a collection of martian
dust. 

To find out, Spirit will spend some of sol 72 digging its wheels into 
the drift to uncover its interior. After backing up a bit, Spirit will 
use the panoramic camera and miniature thermal emission spectrometer 
to analyze the scuffed area. If the interior material has a similar 
spectrum to the dark deposit in the crater, then Spirit will most 
likely stay here a little longer to study the drift with the 
instruments on its robotic arm. If the material is uniform - that is, 
dusty all the way down, Spirit will most likely move off to
another target. 

Image credit: NASA/JPL 
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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040316a.html

Opportunity Studies Bait in Shark's Cage
Press Release Image: Opportunity
March 16, 2004

In its 49th sol on Mars, NASA's Opportunity had nearly concluded its 
scientific examination of the extreme southwestern end of the outcrop 
in Meridiani Planum.  In the Shark's Cage area of the neighborhood 
called Shoemaker's Patio, featured in this image from the front 
hazard avoidance camera, Opportunity deployed its arm to study the 
features called Shark's Tooth, Shark Pellets, and Lamination. 
Shark's Tooth is a piece of the unusual red rind that appears to fill
cracks in the outcrop. This rind may be some kind of chemical 
alteration of the rocks. Shark Pellets is an area of soil that was 
under investigation as part of the crater soil survey. Lamination 
is a target with very thin layers that resemble uniform pages in a book, 
an indication of how the sediments were deposited. A final experiment 
in this area will be attempted on sol 51. Opportunity's front left
wheel will scuff the rock called Carousel. Scuffing involves 
scraping the rock with one wheel while holding all the others still. 
This experiment essentially turns the rover wheels into tools, to 
try and determine the hardness of the target rock. 

Image credit: NASA/JPL 
Browse Image | Medium Image (137 kB) | Large (1.8 M)

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[meteorite-list] Mars Global Surveyor Images - March 11-17, 2004

2004-03-17 Thread Ron Baalke

MARS GLOBAL SURVEYOR IMAGES
March 11-17, 2004

The following new images taken by the Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) on
the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft are now available:

o Layered Rock in West Candor (Released 11 March 2004)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/03/11/index.html

o Winter Clouds Over Mie (Released 12 March 2004)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/03/12/index.html

o Dark Slope Streaks (Released 13 March 2004)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/03/13/index.html

o Terby's Layered Rocks (Released 14 March 2004)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/03/14/index.html

o Crater in Elysium Planitia (Released 15 March 2004)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/03/15/index.html

o Kaiser Dunes (Released 16 March 2004)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/03/16/index.html

o Mid-Latitude Gullies (Released 17 March 2004)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/03/17/index.html

1
All of the Mars Global Surveyor images are archived here:

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/index.html

Mars Global Surveyor was launched in November 1996 and has been
in Mars orbit since September 1997.   It began its primary
mapping mission on March 8, 1999.  Mars Global Surveyor is the 
first mission in a long-term program of Mars exploration known as 
the Mars Surveyor Program that is managed by JPL for NASA's Office
of Space Science, Washington, DC.  Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS)
and the California Institute of Technology built the MOC
using spare hardware from the Mars Observer mission. MSSS operates
the camera from its facilities in San Diego, CA. The Jet Propulsion
Laboratory's Mars Surveyor Operations Project operates the Mars Global
Surveyor spacecraft with its industrial partner, Lockheed Martin
Astronautics, from facilities in Pasadena, CA and Denver, CO.


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[meteorite-list] Main Mass finder and the Paragould Meteorite

2004-03-17 Thread MARK BOSTICK
See what you started now John...:-)   Witness and finder of the main mass, W. Hodges report.  "Was going off the porch when the light went out. Almost at once heard definite violent explosion from about 45' angle above and about 38' west of south from him. Second detonation fro 45' above horizon and slightly more east than north, perhaps two or three seconds after first. Was first man to find hole. Fixing fence and came to get a pole. A week before the pasture had been burnt off and revealed pile of clay thrown by meteorite - immediately thought it was a piece of the meteorite. Round hole eight feet in diameter, depth of eight inches from surface, was vertical, and loose dirt tapered to funnel and bottom of hole of water and was two feet below of surface. Got Joe Fletcher and took slender stake, punched straight down from middle seven or eight feet, found nothing. Moved eighteen inches southwest and hit rock about eighteen or twenty inches down. Gobs of dirt thrown fifty yards in all directions. Nine feet to bottom or rock. Big bump end or rock against west of southwest wall. Shallowest rock lay about fifteen to twenty-four inches west of southwest of center of hole."   source: Find a Falling Star, (pg. 39-40) Harvey Nininger.   Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com  


Re: [meteorite-list] Planet definition

2004-03-17 Thread MexicoDoug
Hola Tom,

Like in many areas of science, astronomy we humans come up pretty short when we try to generalize. To me there should be no controversy, just fun in learning more about nature. Philosophically, and quite relevant to this issue, is whether humankind, or a subset of humankind, is able to generalize successfully to understand the Universe or even "just" the Solar System.
(I enjoyed the poem posted very much, thanks Francis)

The question conveniently set up for debate when taken too seriously: Pluto is or isn't a planet, The topic is a convenient laboratory to learn about Pluto and the failure of humans to successfully generalize and compartmentalize everything neatly for consumption at the elementary schooling level. Pluto is what Pluto is, and for that matter Earth is what it is, and the concept of planet has no meaning other than conventions assigned. As a biologist, I am sure Nininger understood this well. The Solar system doesn't bend to elementary school definitions and more than to the definition of genus in biology. We all know a heck of a lot about Pluto, and we are pretty short when it comes to knowing what a planet is since defining a planet is not part of the requirement of having a Solar System.

So perhaps Jupiter is a star, and not a planet, it does radiate a lot more energy than it absorbs, doesn't it? The Jovians certainly would have a different perspective on whether Earth qualifies as a planet. We are just a little bigger than Ceres to them. Mars is pretty small and relatively devoid of atmosphere too... So the best we can do is learn about the Solar System and accept it for what it is, rather than dictate to the heavenly bodies what they are... So if one body rotates opposite to others, is inclined the "wrong" way on its axis, has an orbit out of wack or used to be a satellite, then so what. If Mercury were orbiting Jupiter it wouldn't be a "considered" a planet.

Pluto is a planet by convention, as is Jupiter. No two planets are alike. They are all just accidental matter floating around in our near space following the laws of the universe with no special need to conform to definition authorities.

I hope your daughter is able to consider this as well. You might remind her that the Earth is round because we say it is. But really it really is more elliptical and has an irregular surface. There is something to be learned about debating whether the Earth is round, but it is not whether it can be considered definitively a sphere or not. There is a fine line between understanding and preaching about the Solar System. Most of us cross it to make our points, but the Solar System continues to revolve and evolve independent of our conceptualization of each individual member of the Solar family.

Saludos
Doug Dawn
Mexico


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Hello List, I am a firm believer that Pluto is not a planet, I feel it is
to small and it's orbit is not like any of the other eight planets, so I
would have to say size is not the best way to define a planet but the shape
of it's orbit. : ) How many planets cross orbits of other planets?
 Second thing, I have absolutely nothing to back this, it is just a
feeling, but I think Pluto and Charon were both Moons of a larger planet
that, in some big event, got sucked out on there own, and thats why they
float around together. Is this at all possible?

Thanks, Tom
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[meteorite-list] Caspers Socks on eBay!!!

2004-03-17 Thread Dave Schultz
  OMG!!! I know this is off subject, but did anyone
else see that Casper is auctioning off his socks on
eBay??? He-he!!! He should have been wearing his clown
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[meteorite-list] Revolving plate

2004-03-17 Thread Pierre-Marie PELE
Hello,

I'm searching for a cheap revolving plate (working with batteries or solar cells and 
supporting up to 2kg) to exhibit a meteorite. This way, people can see all the 
meteorite without touching it.

Do you know where I could buy on Internet this device ?   I think it's sometimes used 
in jewelry to present some objects.

Regards,

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[meteorite-list] 'Blueberries' Are The Answer To Key Mars Puzzle

2004-03-17 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns4790

'Blueberries' are answer to key Mars puzzle
David Chandler
New Scientist
March 17, 2004

The Mars rover Opportunity has now solved the key puzzle it was sent to the
Meridiani Planum to figure out: where is the hematite that was spotted in
the area by the Mars Global Surveyor orbiter? The answer is in the
blueberries, the tiny mineral spheres that litter the rover's landing
site.

The question was a key one, because hematite almost always forms in water,
and water is thought to be a pre-requisite for life. Scientists led by
Arizona State University's Phil Christensen revealed their discovery at the
Lunar and Planetary Sciences Conference in Houston, Texas, on Tuesday.

Finding the hematite in the spheres makes sense, because earlier data from
the rover showed the spheres are almost certainly concretions formed when
water deposited layer after layer of minerals around a minute grain of sand.

Ever since it landed in January, Opportunity has been seeing more and more
of the spheres, covering the soil, embedded in the bedrock, and seemingly
strewn across the flat plateau surrounding the landing crater.

However, until now, nobody knew what they were made of. This was because at
a few millimetres across they are far too small to fill the field of view of
any of the rover's three spectrometers.

Berry bowl

The challenge was to find a place where the spheres were sufficiently
concentrated to provide a target for the spectrometers. A berry bowl
provided the solution, a shallow depression in the bedrock where dozens of
spheres had collected in a tight bunch.

All three rover instruments, the mini-TES, Mossbauer, and Alpha Proton X-ray
Spectrometers, as well as its microscope, were used on Saturday and Sunday
to gather data and provided the definitive evidence.

The surrounding bedrock showed no sign of hematite at all, while the
concentrated berries showed a very strong signal. It is now clear that,
while not pure hematite, the spheres contain the primary concentrations of
the mineral.

They can account for the hematite seen on the soil surface, because they are
strewn across it, and for its absence in the bounce marks made by the
rover's landing, because pictures show that all the spheres were driven into
the soil and out of sight by the force of impact.

Lost lakes?

There is one remaining question about the hematite, however. It appears to
be even more concentrated on the plains outside the crater. Does that mean
that there may be an additional source as well, perhaps an overlying layer
of rock, or just that the plain is strewn with many millions of spheres?

Opportunity is expected to drive out onto that plain in a week or two, and
should have a chance to answer that question as well.

Christensen, who designed the mini-TES, is hopeful that additional
hematite-rich formations may be found that might prove the presence not just
of water, but of large bodies of standing water that may have persisted for
long periods.

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Re: [meteorite-list] You better jump on this one!

2004-03-17 Thread Pekka Savolainen
well, if they are from year 2000, I suppose, they are  stand-alone 
model...;-

best,

pekka s

Tom aka James Knudson wrote:

Hey list, even if you do not do the ebay thing, I don't think anyone should
miss this, Ken, can you tell me if this is real or not?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2232849776category=3239

Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] Revolving plate

2004-03-17 Thread Michael L Blood
I went to ebay, typed in Revolving display and got 44 items at:

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResultht=1from
=R7query=revolving+displaycategory0=minPrice=maxPrice=ebaytag1=ebayreg
ebaytag1code=0SortProperty=MetaEndSortSortOrder=%5Ba%5Dst=0

I scanned it briefly and saw a buy it now display for $14.99 you
could cut the top off of for that price - don't know if there are any
plates per se.
Check it out.
Best wishes, Michael


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 I'm searching for a cheap revolving plate (working with batteries or solar
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 sometimes used in jewelry to present some objects.
 
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[meteorite-list] 'New Planet' Forces Rethink of Planet Definition

2004-03-17 Thread Ron Baalke


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3516952.stm

'New planet' forces rethink
By Helen Briggs 
BBC News 
March 17, 2004

Astronomers are to rethink the system for classifying planets following the
discovery of what some claim is the 10th in the Solar System. 

A working group of the International Astronomy Union (IAU) will consider
whether objects such as Sedna should be classed as planets. 

The IAU says the group will consider the definition of a minimum size for a 
planet. 

But in the meantime Sedna will not be considered one. 

The outcome could lead to a demotion for Pluto, which some astronomers argue is
too small to be called a planet. 

If we were starting anew, undoubtedly Pluto wouldn't be labelled a planet,
Professor Iwan Williams, of the IAU, told BBC News Online. 

But we have almost a 100 years of culture that says Pluto's a planet. So the 
IAU will set up a working group to try to ponder the imponderable. 

Icy worlds 

Sedna, named unofficially after the Inuit goddess of the sea, is the latest 
in a string of icy objects approaching the size of Pluto discovered in the 
outer reaches of the Solar System. 

Sedna is believed to be about three-quarters of the size of Pluto, based on
measurements of light reflected from its surface detected by telescopes on 
Earth. 

Many astronomers, including Mike Brown of the California Institute of 
Technology, who led the team that discovered Sedna, admit it is not a true 
planet, preferring to describe it as a planetoid - somewhere between a planet 
and an asteroid. 

But like other objects found in recent months that inhabit the band of 
cosmic debris beyond the Inner Solar System, the Kuiper Belt, it is much 
bigger than a typical asteroid. 

Some believe it is only a matter of time before another such body is found 
which dwarfs Pluto. 

Reclassifying Pluto is one way to solve the dilemma. When it was discovered 
in 1930 it was thought to be much bigger - and thus more planet-like - than 
it really is. 

However, the astronomical community will not take kindly to the idea of
downgrading Pluto's status. The last time it was suggested, in 1999, it 
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Re: [meteorite-list] 'Blueberries' Are The Answer To Key Mars Puzzle

2004-03-17 Thread Bjørn Sørheim
H, why didn't anyone think of that in the
first place! :-)
So Opportunity will be driving around on small
globules the rest of the trip on Mars...
Talking about slip slidin away... 

Bjørn Sørheim

At 08:27 17.03.04 -0800, you wrote:


http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns4790

'Blueberries' are answer to key Mars puzzle
David Chandler
New Scientist
March 17, 2004

The Mars rover Opportunity has now solved the key puzzle it was sent to the
Meridiani Planum to figure out: where is the hematite that was spotted in
the area by the Mars Global Surveyor orbiter? The answer is in the
blueberries, the tiny mineral spheres that litter the rover's landing
site.

The question was a key one, because hematite almost always forms in water,
and water is thought to be a pre-requisite for life. Scientists led by
Arizona State University's Phil Christensen revealed their discovery at the
Lunar and Planetary Sciences Conference in Houston, Texas, on Tuesday.

Finding the hematite in the spheres makes sense, because earlier data from
the rover showed the spheres are almost certainly concretions formed when
water deposited layer after layer of minerals around a minute grain of sand.

Ever since it landed in January, Opportunity has been seeing more and more
of the spheres, covering the soil, embedded in the bedrock, and seemingly
strewn across the flat plateau surrounding the landing crater.

However, until now, nobody knew what they were made of. This was because at
a few millimetres across they are far too small to fill the field of view of
any of the rover's three spectrometers.

Berry bowl

The challenge was to find a place where the spheres were sufficiently
concentrated to provide a target for the spectrometers. A berry bowl
provided the solution, a shallow depression in the bedrock where dozens of
spheres had collected in a tight bunch.

All three rover instruments, the mini-TES, Mossbauer, and Alpha Proton X-ray
Spectrometers, as well as its microscope, were used on Saturday and Sunday
to gather data and provided the definitive evidence.

The surrounding bedrock showed no sign of hematite at all, while the
concentrated berries showed a very strong signal. It is now clear that,
while not pure hematite, the spheres contain the primary concentrations of
the mineral.

They can account for the hematite seen on the soil surface, because they are
strewn across it, and for its absence in the bounce marks made by the
rover's landing, because pictures show that all the spheres were driven into
the soil and out of sight by the force of impact.

Lost lakes?

There is one remaining question about the hematite, however. It appears to
be even more concentrated on the plains outside the crater. Does that mean
that there may be an additional source as well, perhaps an overlying layer
of rock, or just that the plain is strewn with many millions of spheres?

Opportunity is expected to drive out onto that plain in a week or two, and
should have a chance to answer that question as well.

Christensen, who designed the mini-TES, is hopeful that additional
hematite-rich formations may be found that might prove the presence not just
of water, but of large bodies of standing water that may have persisted for
long periods.

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Re: [meteorite-list] You better jump on this one!

2004-03-17 Thread CMcdon0923
That's why when the little bottle says to take 'x' number of pills at a given time and 
interval, it's important that you follow those instructions, or this is what can 
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Re: [meteorite-list] 'Blueberries' Are The Answer To Key Mars

2004-03-17 Thread Ron Baalke
 
 H, why didn't anyone think of that in the
 first place! :-)

They did, right from the beginning. The trick was to confirm it,
which was difficult because the spherules were so small.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Planet definition

2004-03-17 Thread richard rumble


So... Here is how I explain it to the elementary school kids I talk with about the solor system... since the Pluto Planet Debate comes up all the time


Consider how the solor system formed The Forces that acted on the matter were all farily consistant... and 4 bodies formed in very close to the sun. all iron/nickle core and small rocky bodies THEN.. we have four VERY LARGE gasious bodies that all formed WAY WAY away from the sun and THEN... even farther out we have a small rocky body.. PLUTO... 

SO it is reasonable to assume that if all the forces in effect were the same or very near the same PLUTO should be either a LARGE GAS planet that is very far away... or a small rocky planet in close! 

The probability that Pluto is a forign object that got sucked into the orbit of the Sun?? Is it a Planet? Is it a chunk of Ice from the Kuiper Belt? Guess we better get out there and do some investigation! Tilll then... do some research of your own... and make up your own conclusions! 

My goal here is to have the kids begin to THINK about things and not just take the popular answer and parrot it back.

Just My 2 cents.

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[meteorite-list] Colorado Meteorite Sighting.

2004-03-17 Thread Mark A. Massey
Hello,

My name is Mark Massey and I just signed up for the list at
meteoritecentral.com.  I was wondering if anybody in the group may
have more information regarding the whereabouts of the fall and/or
sighting of the Aurora,CO fireball?.  This would be greatly
appreciated.  I think that my friend said it happened in December or
January.  I was also going to ask if anybody in the group had info
regarding the sighting in India?.  Are there any fans out there of
the Carolina Bays or the Wetumpka Astrobleme?.



Best Regards,



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[meteorite-list] Meteoritical Society - bad links

2004-03-17 Thread Nicholas Gessler
Hi,

I have tried to send email to several persons at the Meteoritical Society.
They all have been returned as invalid addresses.
Their general format is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the like.

Could some MetSoc Officer please take notice and pass this problem on to 
the webmaster?

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[meteorite-list] Fredericksburg

2004-03-17 Thread Thomas Kingery
Does anyone have info on the discovery and location of the
Fredericksburg meteorite? I did see that it was officially recognized in
2000 although it was found in 1936. I reside 30 miles from
Fredericksburg so it is the closest confirmed fall that I know of. If
the exact find date is known I could research local newspapers.

Tom Kingery
Llano, TX


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[meteorite-list] St. Patrick's Day

2004-03-17 Thread Sharkkb8


In hono(u)r of St. Paddy's Day - links to one of my favorite collection-items.

 http://members.aol.com/sharkkb8/meteorites/limerick1.jpg

 http://members.aol.com/sharkkb8/meteorites/limerick2.jpg

 GregoryJ. Gregory Wilson2118 Wilshire Blvd. #918Santa Monica, CA 90403


[meteorite-list] Composite and Stereo Images of Comet Wild 2

2004-03-17 Thread Ron Baalke

http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news97.html

Composite and Stereo Images of Comet Wild 2 
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
March 17, 2004 

On 2 January 2004, NASA's Stardust spacecraft
successfully survived flying through the coma (dust and
gas cloud) surrounding comet 81P/Wild 2, captured
thousands of fresh cometary dust particles released
from the surface just hours before, and is now on its
way home for Earth return set for January 2006. During
the flyby, the highest resolution images ever taken of a
comet 's nucleus were obtained and have been the
subject of intense study since the flyby. A short
exposure image showing tremendous surface detail was
overlain on a long exposure image taken just 10
seconds later showing jets (Image 1). This spectacular
composite image shows a surface feature unlike any
other planetary surface see to date in our solar
system, says Prof Donald Brownlee, the Stardust
Principal Investigator from the University of
Washington. Other than our sun, this is currently the
most active planetary surface in our solar system,
jetting dust and gas streams into space and leaving a
trail millions of km long. 

[Image]

Image 1. This composite image was taken by the 
navigation camera during the close approach phase of 
Stardust's Jan 2, 2004 flyby of comet Wild 2. Several
large depressed regions can be seen. Comet Wild 2 
is about five kilometers (3.1 miles) in diameter. 
To create this image, a short exposure image 
showing tremendous surface detail was overlain 
on a long exposure image taken just 10 seconds 
later showing jets. Together, the images show an
intensely active surface, jetting dust and gas 
streams into space and leaving a trail millions 
of kilometers long.

Two other images are shown as a stereo pair and also
as a red/green stereo anaglif (Images 2  3). The
overall shape of the nucleus resembles a thick
hamburger patty with a few bites taken out, says
Thomas Duxbury, the Stardust Project Manager from
JPL. The surface has significant relief on top of 
this overall shape that reflects billions of years of
resurfacing from crater impacts and out gassing. 

Preliminary scientific results obtained from the Wild 2 
encounter are being presented at the Lunar and planetary 
Science Conference in Houston, Texas by the Stardust science team. 

   [Image] [Image]   

Image 2 (left): Stereo image pair of comet Wild 2
Image 3 (right): Red/green stereo anaglif 

Stardust will bring samples of comet dust back to Earth 
in January 2006 to help answer fundamental questions 
about the origins of the solar system. Additional 
information about the mission is available online at 

http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov 

Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, Colorado, built 
and operates the Stardust spacecraft. The principal 
investigator is astronomy professor Donald E. Brownlee 
of the University of Washington in Seattle. Stardust 
is a part of NASA's Discovery Program of low-cost, 
highly focused science missions. JPL, a division of 
the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, 
manages the mission for NASA's Office of Space 
Science, Washington, D.C. 

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[meteorite-list] Almost a nice light show -- asteroid buzzes earth tomorrow aftern oon

2004-03-17 Thread Matson, Robert
Hi All,

Orbital information for a very closely approaching asteroid has
recently been posted by the Minor Planet Center:

http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/mpec/K04/K04F24.html

This small space rock (H=25.7 corresponds to a diameter in the
20-40 meter range) will pass within 60,000 km (~37,000 miles) of
earth tomorrow afternoon around 3pm PST (6pm EST, 11pm UT).
That's less than 1/6th the distance to the Moon!  --Rob

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[meteorite-list] Fw: 20% off my Ebay Store Items... Meteorites Included!!!

2004-03-17 Thread Michael Cottingham




- Original Message - 
From: Michael 
Cottingham 
To: Michael Cottingham 
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 6:47 PM
Subject: 20% off my Ebay Store Items... Meteorites 
Included!!!

Hello Everyone,

From now until tomorrow, Noon Mountain Time...I am 
offering 20% off of any of my Buy It Now Items. There are nearly 300 items 
listed in my Ebay Storesome of these may have interest for you.

Step One: Use The Buy It Now Feature and Buy 
It!

Step Two: You will have to go to Paypal and 
pay manually. The feature between ebay and Paypal does not allow for the 
20% discount So Buy It Now...Then go to paypal and use [EMAIL PROTECTED] deduct 20% 
and then pay me! Shipping is free. 

Also, please check out my Amazonian Art...this is 
an important project for me and others. I would consider trading some of this 
art for meteorites...if some of you are interested. Also, some of you may 
want to join my Voyage Botanica list, which you can access on my About Me page 
at ebay...


http://members.ebay.com/ws2/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=meteorite-collector

http://www.stores.ebay.com/voyagebotanicanaturalhistory 



Thanks  Best Wishes

Michael Cottingham


[meteorite-list] Re: Worden Slice Available

2004-03-17 Thread RYAN PAWELSKI
Happy St. Patty's Day List

I was wondering if anybody would seriously be interested in purchasing a half-slice of 
the Worden, MI garage/car smasher.  It is a 17.3 gram part-slice with with specks of 
red car paint on the top edge of it. I would be looking for a minimum of $60/g in 
return. I would also do a partial trade for a 2-4g crusted micromount of this 
material.  Please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you would be interested. Thank you.

Regards,

Ryan

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